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3:53

We're here with with an old friend.

3:55

All right well He's not old, he's

3:57

younger than me, but he's a friend

4:00

who I don't see a lot, but

4:02

I do respect you and like you

4:04

and know you. Thank you. Tom Green.

4:06

Nice, nice to be here. I moved

4:08

away. Well, I'm really applaud. I'll applaud

4:11

myself. That's okay. Doesn't matter. I know

4:13

you're gone. You're gone. Yeah, well, you

4:15

know, fellow Canadian, right? We're both Canadian.

4:17

Yes. How old were you when you

4:20

left Canada? 22, how old were you?

4:22

I was 28 years old. And then

4:24

I was down here in Los Angeles

4:26

for 20 years. Right. And then about

4:29

four years ago, I moved back to

4:31

Canada and I got this farm. But

4:33

I had, this, yesterday was the first

4:35

day I've been back to LA since

4:38

I'd left, so it was pretty cool.

4:40

And? I went straight to Arts Delhi.

4:42

Art Stelli is where your mother and

4:44

I used to eat. I couldn't, when

4:47

I moved down here, I could not

4:49

afford anything and Art Stelli once a

4:51

week we could go in and me

4:53

and your mom could split a sandwich.

4:55

I love Art Stell. It's in Studio

4:58

City. Yeah. So coming back now, how

5:00

does that, are you okay with what

5:02

you've done? The fact that you did,

5:04

because this is such a dichotomy from

5:07

where you lived to where you are.

5:09

Yeah, you know, it's weird because it's

5:11

like I was. I was here just

5:13

long enough where it still kind of

5:16

felt weird living in Los Angeles for

5:18

me, even after I'd been here 20

5:20

years. Really? Yeah, because it still kind

5:22

of felt like, what the hell? Well,

5:25

it's weird. I live in Los Angeles.

5:27

And then, and so when I moved

5:29

back to Canada, instantly kind of felt

5:31

normal for me. Even moving to a

5:33

farm and... Because you have city boy,

5:36

aren't you? Ottawa suburbs, but we had

5:38

a we had you know, I was

5:40

we always going fishing and we had

5:42

a cottage a cottage, you know up

5:45

in Canada, we come cottages Out and

5:47

outside the city and we go. We

5:49

don't call them cottages here. No, no,

5:51

is it called? Oh, yeah, you still

5:54

call them cottages? I said, let's go

5:56

to the didn't I say, let's go

5:58

rent a cottage on Muskoka. Yeah, yeah,

6:00

because that's in Canada. It works in

6:03

Canada. Have you ever said let's rent

6:05

a cottage somewhere here? What's it called?

6:07

I guess I don't have to translate

6:09

Canadian to you, because they're Canadian. No.

6:12

We say a cabin, a cabin, a

6:14

lake house and stuff like that down

6:16

here, so. I've never translated it. Oh,

6:18

I'm sorry. It was good to hear

6:20

somebody talking my language. So you leave,

6:23

you move up there. Yeah. And now

6:25

there's talk of we coming up there.

6:27

Yeah, well, oh, yeah, well, we're jumping

6:29

right into the political. Doesn't have to

6:32

be. We don't have to. The 51st

6:34

state, yeah. Yes. It'll be the first

6:36

state in America that nobody in it

6:38

wants to be American, except for Jordan

6:41

Peterson, Wayne Gretzky, and that guy from

6:43

Shark Tank. Kevin, I'm here. Kevin O'Leary.

6:45

Oh, that's so funny. But you are

6:47

the king. of innovation. I have to

6:50

say that before I met you and

6:52

knew you, I was dazzled by you

6:54

and I'll tell you why. I think

6:56

we have a lot in common and

6:58

the difference between you and me growing

7:01

up as you had friends and I

7:03

didn't. But I loved all the same

7:05

things but without friends I got diagnosed,

7:07

not diagnosed, misdiagnosed and thrown out of

7:10

school. My favorite show growing up was...

7:12

Alan Fund was a candid camera. Sure,

7:14

yeah, yeah. And when I started watching

7:16

you do your pranks, which, you know,

7:19

and watching you on public access, you

7:21

know, you were like an innovator of

7:23

somebody, a lot of people in this

7:25

business, and I think in any business

7:28

and in life, kind of. try to

7:30

gravitate toward something and wait for somebody

7:32

to bring them in. And you always

7:34

pushed your way into our psyche in

7:36

the most wonderfully creative, wild way. You're

7:39

not old enough to know his public

7:41

access show. I researched, but no, not

7:43

when it was on. Yeah, well, you

7:45

know, I was a... I loved Letterman

7:48

when I was a kid and I

7:50

loved skateboarding. And it was kind of

7:52

combining those two things was what the

7:54

Tom Green Show really was, was going

7:57

out in the street and doing pranks,

7:59

kind of like you'd see those old

8:01

skateboard videos where they'd be out in

8:03

the street and Letterman would of course

8:06

go do stuff on the street all

8:08

the time. But we would sort of,

8:10

I don't know, I just, you know,

8:12

growing up in Ottawa, I did do

8:14

Yuck Yuckz. I did do stand up

8:17

at Yuckj when I was when I

8:19

was when I was a Yuckjacks when

8:21

I was a Yuckjax when I was

8:23

a when I was a when I

8:26

was a Yuckjax when I was a

8:28

when I was a young when I

8:30

was a Yuckjax when I was a

8:32

young when I was a Yuckjax when

8:35

I was a kid when I was

8:37

a Yuckjax when I was a kid

8:39

when I was a Yuckjax when I

8:41

was a kid when I was a

8:44

Yuck But other than that, there wasn't

8:46

really a lot of, you know, roots

8:48

into getting a television show in Ottawa.

8:50

So I just basically, we made our

8:52

own show, my friend. But Norm McDonald

8:55

came out of Ottawa. There's a lot

8:57

of, Ottawa has a good history. Mike

8:59

McDonald, there was a lot of guys

9:01

that came out of Ottawa. So you,

9:04

you were a skateboarder, you're a musician,

9:06

I was going to say you're a

9:08

rapper, now you're a country artist. I've

9:10

been recording some country music. Since moving

9:13

back to the farm, I really. Started

9:15

playing more my guitar more and writing

9:17

some songs up there But it's the

9:19

soundtrack for my new show. So the

9:22

show is about me moving the show

9:24

called Tom Green Country I moved to

9:26

this farm and It's it's where I'm

9:28

going to live for the rest of

9:30

my life now That's one thing that's

9:33

really cool about getting this place. How

9:35

do you know that? because I? Because

9:37

I? I can I can just kind

9:39

of tell you know like every every

9:42

everywhere I've ever lived Including my last

9:44

house in Los Angeles, I was in

9:46

for 18 years, I was always kind

9:48

of thinking, I wonder where I'm going

9:51

to go next, you know. This is

9:53

the first time I'm really planning for

9:55

the future and a different one, planting

9:57

trees, and I'm excited to watch the

9:59

trees grow. That takes a long time.

10:02

Your stand-up special is really funny, and

10:04

you talk about that. And you talk

10:06

about, which kind of, I got depressed

10:08

a little bit, by laughing, you said

10:11

you came back to die. Did you

10:13

say that? Am I misquoting? Yeah, yeah,

10:15

I moved back to Canada to die,

10:17

yeah. Is that why you think you're

10:20

not going to move any other place?

10:22

Well, I'm not planning on dying any

10:24

time soon, but I'm going to stay

10:26

there for... long time. But you know

10:29

I'm still I'm touring doing stand-up I'm

10:31

on tour right now doing stand-up and

10:33

but it's nice to be able to

10:35

go home from being on the road

10:37

and being in a really peaceful complex

10:40

like this. I have these animals that

10:42

are going to outlive me. Donkeys, my

10:44

donkey Kia is only three years old.

10:46

They can live to be 50. Yeah

10:49

so I'll be looking after Kia and

10:51

Fanny for at least the mule. and

10:53

Key is the donkey so there's a...

10:55

What's the damage between a donkey and

10:58

a mule? I didn't know the difference

11:00

three years ago, that's how new I

11:02

am at this, but now I know,

11:04

because I have a mule in a

11:07

donkey, but a mule is half horse,

11:09

half donkey. Okay. So it's like a

11:11

hybrid, it's a hybrid animal. So like

11:13

you have to breed them, you have

11:15

to make them. Pretty much, yeah. Okay,

11:18

and a mule is just a donkey.

11:20

A donkey is just a donkey, and

11:22

a mule is a horse and a

11:24

donkey. So, so, like the mule fanny,

11:27

she is, she looks like a horse.

11:29

He would think she was a horse.

11:31

If you see me riding a horse

11:33

in any of the show and stuff,

11:36

that's the mule, actually. And her father

11:38

was a persher on horse. And her

11:40

father was a donkey, and her mother

11:42

was a persher on horse. And her

11:45

mother was a persher. And her mother

11:47

was a persher. And her mother was

11:49

a persher. And her mother was a

11:51

persher. And her mother was a persher.

11:53

And her mother was a persher. And

11:56

her mother was a persher. And her

11:58

mother was a persher. And her mother

12:00

was a persher. And her mother was

12:02

a persher. And her mother was a

12:05

persher. And her mother was a persher.

12:07

And her mother was a persher. And

12:09

her mother was a persher. Donkeys there

12:11

I'm not sure about that I know

12:14

you are gonna she's been doing a

12:16

lot of research for this I didn't

12:18

plan for that question I have seen

12:20

that I have seen that I have

12:23

seen that I have seen that but

12:25

that's something that was my only question

12:27

yeah is her hamkey hamkey hamster donkey

12:29

hamster and a donkey that would be

12:31

Tricky, but I mean they could probably

12:34

do that with you know, you know,

12:36

you know, you know, test tube handkey

12:38

or something like that You know, you

12:40

can make that happen, but it's a

12:43

you know, it's an amazing thing like

12:45

I I Feel so Relaxed and calm

12:47

on the farm. It's been a different

12:49

experience for me. I'm to Los Angeles,

12:52

I didn't, I don't have kids, I

12:54

didn't get married, I didn't have anything

12:56

sort of holding me here in Los

12:58

Angeles. You did get married. My fiance

13:01

is here tonight, so I am getting

13:03

married. Oh, you're getting married again. I'm

13:05

getting married again, yeah. So she's here

13:07

tonight. Sorry. She's a beautiful young lady.

13:09

You met Amanda, and so I didn't

13:12

like, you know, when it was time

13:14

to think about moving during COVID. There

13:16

was no reason really not to move

13:18

for me. I was just, I was

13:21

touring, my tour was canceled, and I

13:23

thought, I think I was just going

13:25

to move back to Canada. But February.

13:27

It's February. Yeah, yeah. And March in

13:30

Canada doesn't feel like it does outside

13:32

right now here. Yeah, I mean, I...

13:34

Like I just I've been on tour

13:36

for the last month and I was

13:39

strategically timed for February So I'm pretty

13:41

much I'm doing away from us now

13:43

to and doing stand up during February

13:45

So I don't mind the winter though.

13:47

I do love the winter, you know

13:50

I don't know if I would like

13:52

the entire winter But I'm always probably

13:54

gonna do stuff in February and travel

13:56

a little bit you know, I don't

13:59

like that. Yeah, I do like you

14:01

I think that you are always ahead

14:03

of the curve as far as you

14:05

know You know, Joe Rogan kind of

14:08

credits him with inspiring podcasts. And I

14:10

think I did that show too, where

14:12

we came to your house and you

14:14

had a show from your living room

14:17

and you've always been like ahead of

14:19

the time. I love technology. We did

14:21

one in a warehouse too once for

14:23

Axis TV as well that you did.

14:25

Right, but you just, it seemed like

14:28

you and your friends would just wire

14:30

it up and just go to the

14:32

satellite and you didn't need a network,

14:34

you didn't need an executive. It was

14:37

interesting because I guess that was probably

14:39

around 2005, I guess, when we built

14:41

Webo Vision. We called it Webo Vision.

14:43

It was before podcasting was really a

14:46

thing, but it was, and similar to

14:48

this, right? We took a bunch of

14:50

cameras and put them on tripods and

14:52

set up some lights in my... living

14:54

room and and and I've been saying

14:57

I just made that movie Freddie got

14:59

fingered and after you know I read

15:01

for that yeah and oh yeah that's

15:03

right we can talk about that too

15:06

if you want you didn't get you

15:08

didn't I didn't get the part yeah

15:10

well isn't that amazing well remember the

15:12

audition yeah yeah it was probably would

15:15

have been on maple drive over at

15:17

at Larry Bresner's office exactly great Larry

15:19

Bresner absolutely where it was yeah and

15:21

I read for it I wanted to

15:24

work with you that is a a

15:26

real shame that that didn't happen for

15:28

it was up to you for me

15:30

I mean you you dodged a bullet

15:32

that's for sure not really I don't

15:35

care what reviewers say I think it's

15:37

a cult classic yeah and I would

15:39

have really liked to be in it

15:41

oh my gosh well you know it's

15:44

it's uh I assumed that it didn't

15:46

matter that much but you know I

15:48

I yeah you know these these were

15:50

these were these were these were It's

15:53

funny the people that did audition for

15:55

Freddie got fingered that didn't get it

15:57

and I sometimes. That's kind of cool

15:59

though that you mentioned that because I

16:02

you know. You do remember the audition?

16:04

I do, yeah, absolutely. What did I

16:06

do wrong? Yeah, nothing, absolutely nothing. He

16:08

brought you here for a guilt trip

16:10

is what he brought him. I brought

16:13

him here because I respect him. I

16:15

brought him here because I respect him.

16:17

I brought him here because he does

16:19

things nobody else does. He's on Prime,

16:22

Amazon Prime right now and he, a

16:24

lot of us might create a project

16:26

and then sell them that. He sold

16:28

them like four. He's got a documentary.

16:31

Did you watch it and say, wow,

16:33

thank God I didn't get that part?

16:35

No. No. No. No. No. I'm a

16:37

fan. I had really just been living

16:40

in LA. Are you happy with it?

16:42

Yeah. Well, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I

16:44

had to make a lot of changes

16:46

to it because of the focus groups

16:48

and stuff. So I wasn't. really able

16:51

to. You should have filmed the focus

16:53

groups. Yeah, I know. I've been only

16:55

in Los Angeles maybe in this business

16:57

for maybe two years at that point

17:00

when I made the movie. And so

17:02

I'd never auditioned for anything before. I

17:04

didn't really understand what the process of

17:06

auditioning for something was. I didn't really,

17:09

it was all sort of very, very,

17:11

very. They say Tom Green's got his

17:13

own movie. He's going to be directing

17:15

it. I said, how do you get

17:18

me in? How can you get me

17:20

an offer? They go, no, we can't

17:22

get you an offer. I was on

17:24

St. Elsewhere. I'm a good actor and

17:26

I'm Canadian. And Tom Green, I've got

17:29

to work with him. So they told

17:31

me they gave me this address on

17:33

Maple Drive. You and me in the

17:35

room. Oh man. Yeah. I didn't get

17:38

it. I know. Well, you know. Do

17:40

you remember which part it was? I'm

17:42

pretty sure I know which part it

17:44

was you were auditioning for. What part

17:47

do you think it was? I believe

17:49

it was for the uncle, the uncle,

17:51

yeah. Who played it? It was Stephen

17:53

Tobolowski played it and then that whole

17:56

part got cut out of the movie

17:58

actually. It wouldn't have. Yeah, it wasn't

18:00

his fault it got cut out though.

18:02

It was more, it was the writing.

18:04

Bad casting. Bad casting. Yeah. Yes, no,

18:07

I mean he's great, he's great too,

18:09

but I know, but you, I'll give

18:11

you an example. Honestly, it was the

18:13

writing and the subject matter, the focus

18:16

groups didn't, didn't like the, some of

18:18

the aspects of it. I don't think

18:20

anything that Tom Green does should ever

18:22

be shown to a focus group. I

18:25

agree, I didn't know anything about focus

18:27

groups at the time, because the movie

18:29

was designed to like, you know, kind

18:31

of piss people, They're supposed to not

18:34

like that scene that's supposed to be

18:36

confusing to them. So but it was

18:38

too complicated of a thing to kind

18:40

of navigate for me as a 28

18:42

year old kid You know can you

18:45

imagine if you would have like before

18:47

you? Release the bum song if you

18:49

would have just sat at like Sony

18:51

music or Universal music and said what

18:54

do you guys think of this? I

18:56

wrote the bum song. Yeah. Can you

18:58

imagine? would a focus group, how well

19:00

would have that have released? Would have

19:03

never been the number one song? Was

19:05

number one, not only that, it was

19:07

emulated by Slim Shady himself. Yeah, absolutely.

19:09

So you're not a focus group guy

19:12

and that's what I love about you.

19:14

I have nothing negative to say except

19:16

you don't have good taste in casting.

19:18

That's all. Well, you know, I mean,

19:20

that's probably the nicest thing anyone said

19:23

about Freddie got fingered. It was just

19:25

the casting problems. There was a lot

19:27

of other problems people thought with it.

19:29

But the thing is, like, I made

19:32

that movie and then we were sort

19:34

of talking about building the TV studio

19:36

in my living room. You know, I

19:38

always wanted to do a talk show,

19:41

like when I was a kid, I

19:43

idolized David Letter David Letterman. pseudo letterman

19:45

type show, you know. And I had

19:47

just done a talk show for MTV

19:49

that had ended. And then I made

19:52

Freddie Got Fingered. And, you know, after

19:54

Freddie Got Fingered, it came out, it

19:56

was kind of like, well, probably the

19:58

only way I'm really going to be

20:01

able to make a talk show. After

20:03

you make a movie, like, Freddie Got

20:05

Fingered, the only way you can really

20:07

make a television show is to build

20:10

a studio in your house. Just do

20:12

it. paying attention to technology and like

20:14

as in here you just gave me

20:16

a tour of all of these amazing

20:19

holograms and all sorts of incredible things

20:21

that are unbelievable. So you know back

20:23

then it was 2005 and you know

20:25

live streaming was brand new. Nobody was

20:27

doing it was sort of like you

20:30

know it was like I remember asking

20:32

some of my friends who were in

20:34

that business, you know, when's it going

20:36

to be possible to put video on

20:39

the internet? And they're saying, well, you

20:41

can sort of do it now. We

20:43

found these few little places online that

20:45

were experimenting with it. And then we

20:48

reached out to them and got some

20:50

of the technology together and put it

20:52

into the house and did it. But

20:54

the thing that was pretty exciting about

20:57

those days. was you know I'd I'd

20:59

invite up comedians and people I knew

21:01

people I didn't know and they come

21:03

up to the house and they kind

21:05

of look around and there's that clip

21:08

of Joe Rogan that's going around but

21:10

it really happened over and over with

21:12

everybody you know whether it was you

21:14

know you or Adam Corolla or everybody

21:17

right look around go wow you know

21:19

you could sort of see the light

21:21

bulbs going off like wow we don't

21:23

we don't need to sort of be

21:26

beholden to the man anymore you know

21:28

we can kind of go do this

21:30

on It was exciting time. It was

21:32

exciting time. But that's been everything you've

21:35

done. You know, even the way you

21:37

pushed comedy further than any, I don't

21:39

know that people realize, like, you know,

21:41

I think you've talked about this on

21:43

other interviews recently, but humping the moose

21:46

and things like that. But that's like

21:48

pushing the boundary so far. It wasn't

21:50

like, when you do your talk show,

21:52

you say you're emulating Letterman and working

21:55

with what you can. But even when

21:57

you did those kind of things, you

21:59

pushed the envelope. much further than anybody

22:01

we had ever seen on television, much

22:04

further than the David Letterman ever did,

22:06

much further than any other comedian I

22:08

ever saw do, and that's what I

22:10

liked. It was like, it was like,

22:13

you were just throwing, you know, even

22:15

the fact that when you were doing

22:17

your pranks. It was those early days

22:19

of just having a camera that you

22:21

could just have and run around with

22:24

without having to, you know, to get

22:26

a TV show you had to have

22:28

a lot of money and multiple cameras

22:30

and lights and a crew that was

22:33

professional that knew how to operate all

22:35

this stuff all of a sudden video

22:37

cameras were there and anybody could really

22:39

run it I went to school learned

22:42

how to do it a little more

22:44

than average person at it and all

22:46

that kind of stuff but it was

22:48

the sort of the lack of rules

22:51

and preparation involved in making the show

22:53

like when we got to MTV all

22:55

of a sudden there was We've been

22:57

doing the show for four years, just

22:59

running around. pumping moose and stuff, right?

23:02

And then all of a sudden there's

23:04

a, there's sort of a hierarchy of

23:06

writers and executives and then we'd write

23:08

everything down first and we'd go up

23:11

the chain of command and then we'd

23:13

come back with check marks on it.

23:15

Okay, you can go do this one,

23:17

but not this one, but not this

23:20

one. But that was, you know, so

23:22

we didn't like set out to hump

23:24

a dead moose, first of all. It

23:26

wasn't like we woke up one morning

23:29

for weird. stuff to do and we

23:31

decided to drive across Canada at one

23:33

point because we were kind of just

23:35

looking for new locations and things like

23:37

that and we're driving from Thunder Bay

23:40

to Winnipeg and we haven't seen a

23:42

human being in you know three days

23:44

or something like that and there's road

23:46

kill there big dead moose and we

23:49

just sort of went on try to

23:51

revive it you know we're just sort

23:53

of improvising with stuff that was around

23:55

you're not going to drive by a

23:58

giant fresh perfectly good prop like that

24:00

you know like we didn't have a

24:02

big budget for props you know so

24:04

right so we just kind of try

24:07

to do something silly with it with

24:09

you know passers-by I was trying to

24:11

revive it really was trying to revive

24:13

it really was trying to revive it

24:15

to me of misconstrued as humping by

24:18

M&M but it wasn't actually M&M wrapped

24:20

about me humping it but I wasn't

24:22

like Humpin it, you know, it was

24:24

just kind of reviving trying to revive

24:27

it, you know, but it was really

24:29

just more of a confusion hopefully you

24:31

don't pass a strange woman who passes

24:33

out No, I'm not I'm not humping

24:36

her. I'm trying to revive her. Yeah,

24:38

I'm sorry. I see Amanda's face and

24:40

I don't want to offend your fiancé.

24:42

Yeah, yeah, I saw and she's a

24:44

huge fan of Todd McGreen I think

24:47

you're I saw an interview where you

24:49

were saying that you stopped because the

24:51

goal of yours was you wanted to

24:53

create weird content. And then nowadays... weird,

24:56

just isn't weird anymore. That everyone's doing

24:58

something. Shock value is gone. Yeah, weird

25:00

on the internet. Is that still? A

25:02

little bit, yeah. I mean, I think

25:05

it's, there's a few things. I mean,

25:07

first of all, I'm a bit older

25:09

too. I mean, it's kind of, I

25:11

think a certain point running around and

25:14

doing those kind of, those kinds of

25:16

pranks, I think. Maybe in that interview

25:18

you read or whatever, but I would.

25:20

I've sort of been thinking this through

25:22

lately and I'm thinking what I'm doing

25:25

now is maybe the weirdest thing I

25:27

could do was move to a farm

25:29

and do something normal, right? Like I'm

25:31

living on a farm and have these

25:34

animals that I'm raising. Yeah, it's abnormal,

25:36

but maybe the abnormal that I'm doing

25:38

it. But for many people around the

25:40

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it. Yeah, but it just seems so

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and that's what it's compelling and really

26:34

well done really well directed really well

26:36

shot really well your music is great

26:38

like everything is you really check so

26:41

many boxes and that's what What keeps,

26:43

I think, you seem to continuously reinvent

26:45

yourself and have been from a young

26:47

15-year-old stand-up to public access TV show

26:50

host, to a real big TV show

26:52

host, to a movie star, to a

26:54

director, to whatever it is you do,

26:56

to now, I think you're also changing

26:59

the way we consume things. I think

27:01

that Amazon... the stand-up special came out

27:03

in January right yeah yeah that it's

27:05

really good thank you it's really good

27:08

thank you know I'm so glad you

27:10

watched it got to watch it yeah

27:12

because that's I'm so glad I got

27:14

to watch it because it's it's and

27:16

this is what I I'll just and

27:19

that's amazing that you're saying that coming

27:21

from you howie I mean I really

27:23

know I got to tell you something

27:25

it's not I'll tell you why my

27:28

inspiration when I when I when I

27:30

first moved out here in my in

27:32

my 20s I've talked about this many

27:34

times I got to see Richard Pryor

27:37

and Richard Pryor kind of opened my

27:39

eyes I don't think anybody who ever

27:41

saw anything I do would ever equate

27:43

anything I do in the least bit

27:46

with Richard Pryor but Richard Pryor was

27:48

the first guy that I was aware

27:50

of you know having watched television, same

27:52

kind of television, you watched. Comedians had

27:54

bits and they had jokes and they

27:57

had characters. Richard Pryor was the first

27:59

guy that I watched, he came to

28:01

the comedy story each and every night

28:03

and cobbled together what became live on

28:06

the Sunset Strip. But in the 70s,

28:08

he was incredibly shocking in the sense

28:10

that it was very real. I don't

28:12

know if you know it was... background,

28:15

but he was raised in a brothel

28:17

by his grandmother and he had drug

28:19

problems and he got burned by free

28:21

basing. But all that became part of

28:24

his act. And it was the first

28:26

time I became aware of authenticity where,

28:28

you know, even though it's funny and

28:30

he heightened it, it's real. And when

28:32

you watch your special now, it's a

28:35

very calm, comfortable... Tom talking about what

28:37

he's doing what he has done how

28:39

it is you're standing there with your

28:41

dog the dog is like you would

28:44

love it you would love the it's

28:46

just a really comfortable funny real likable

28:48

special and then at the same time

28:50

he's telling the story of his life

28:53

in this big move you have the

28:55

documentary yeah And it's just, did you

28:57

go to Amazon and say I got

28:59

all these ideas and I want you

29:02

to buy everything? Right after I moved

29:04

to Canada, I did a show on

29:06

Prime called LOL Canada, which was really

29:08

funny. They had a bunch of Canadian

29:10

comedians and actors in there, like Dave

29:13

Foley and Caroline Ray and Colin Mockery

29:15

and a bunch of people were on

29:17

there and they go in this house

29:19

and try to make each other laugh.

29:22

game show and it was so fun

29:24

and after the show I had just

29:26

got the farm and and I was

29:28

talking to the people at Prime about

29:31

about this idea I had and they

29:33

they said let's do it so so

29:35

it all kind of snowballed from there

29:37

so we started out we did the

29:39

documentary in the show and then midway

29:42

through producing it we we Pitched him

29:44

a special too because I was out

29:46

doing stand-up at the time so it's

29:48

cool I produced it all I've got

29:51

my production company up now in Canada

29:53

and I'm sort of Making shows up

29:55

there now and I've got cameras and

29:57

you know crew and things like that

30:00

and it's it's really it's really been

30:02

amazing so it's been really cool that

30:04

prime kind of Yeah, supported that. It

30:06

was really awesome. We'll have the, we'll

30:09

have a link to his dates and

30:11

it would is tomgreen.com and also to

30:13

to these specials. Well, I don't know

30:15

if you can link it on here

30:17

to the specials, but they're really truly,

30:20

I'm not just saying that because you're

30:22

sitting here. Yeah. They're really great. You

30:24

should be really proud. I was trying

30:26

to say that at the beginning, I

30:29

jump all over the place because I

30:31

have severe ADHD. No problem. you and

30:33

no no I'm following along I think

30:35

I might have that too but maybe

30:38

not maybe not diagnosed but I think

30:40

I possibly do have that as well

30:42

no no can I do this one

30:44

I'm not him yeah okay so it's

30:47

so anyway what oh can me that

30:49

the thing that that one thing that

30:51

led to me moving back to Canada

30:53

was when COVID happened right I know

30:55

you have like a I guess you

30:58

say an OCD about a germophobia, right?

31:00

You've been a public public about this,

31:02

right? Yes. I'm not saying anything that

31:04

everybody doesn't know. So I, you know,

31:07

I'm a cancer survivor. And so when

31:09

COVID happened, like, I took it really

31:11

seriously. I know everybody didn't take it

31:13

seriously, but I took it really seriously.

31:16

And I was sort of in my

31:18

house and not going outside and really,

31:20

really concerned about it, because I figured,

31:22

you know, I had cancer, or that

31:25

seems like kind of a testicular cancer.

31:27

run on MTV. I'm thinking, okay, that's

31:29

not very good luck, you know, so

31:31

I'm thinking, well, probably my luck is

31:33

I'll get COVID too and I'll be

31:36

so I'm just gonna hedge my bets

31:38

and I'm just not going to leave

31:40

my house, right? And I didn't. And,

31:42

you know, it was, you know, that's

31:45

when I got Charlie, my dog Charlie,

31:47

and I got this van, and which

31:49

I still have. which I drove back

31:51

to Los Angeles in just on this

31:54

trip, which is hilarious. You didn't fly?

31:56

No, well, I've been on tour, I

31:58

took my van on tour. My fiance

32:00

and my dog and I drove here

32:03

in a van. We're living, we slept

32:05

in the Mojave Desert two nights ago.

32:07

It was amazing. That's a real test.

32:09

She's a real lucky lady. But so

32:11

part of it was I would, at

32:14

the beginning of COVID, I started getting

32:16

into. some of these new cameras and

32:18

stuff and lenses and things that I'd

32:20

always wanted to kind of, you know

32:23

when COVID happened like a lot of

32:25

people sort of figured, oh I'm not

32:27

doing what I normally do, I'm not.

32:29

We have a very funny bit and

32:32

you're standing up about that too. Okay,

32:34

which was the one I don't want

32:36

to I don't want to put words

32:38

in your mouth, but you talked about

32:41

how and I did too how you

32:43

took it very seriously and you were

32:45

Cloroxing things. Oh, yeah, that's right You

32:47

were also posting that you were doing

32:49

that. Yeah, yeah, exactly and they go

32:52

back to Canada Yeah, because yeah, because

32:54

people would that it was in the

32:56

beginning of COVID you didn't really it

32:58

was it was interesting when you started

33:01

to realize that that it was sort

33:03

of there was sort of there was

33:05

sort of a political divide But yeah,

33:07

so I really got into the cinematography

33:10

thing, though I was going out into

33:12

the desert with these cameras and lenses

33:14

and just filming all this stuff for

33:16

my YouTube channel. And that's kind of

33:19

what led to A, being out in

33:21

the desert in the van, made me,

33:23

I would wake up in the morning

33:25

in, you know, some beautiful. Desert Canyon

33:27

in New Mexico and with my camera

33:30

and my dog and I'd be making

33:32

coffee and I'd be looking at going

33:34

wow this is just so silent and

33:36

peaceful I thought I think maybe I

33:39

did you do all those shots in

33:41

the in the in the thing that

33:43

you were in your documentary sure yeah

33:45

yeah even the bee was there a

33:48

close-up of a bee or well I

33:50

mean I had some camera people working

33:52

with me and stuff too yeah so

33:54

that's not like found footage I need

33:57

to be Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. So

33:59

I kind of got into like just

34:01

sort of filming all this kind of

34:03

stuff. Because you're good. It's very cinematic.

34:05

Yeah, thank you. Thank you. The whole

34:08

thing is like very... I got really,

34:10

I'm really kind of into the technology

34:12

and the cameras and the lenses and

34:14

just the ways of shooting. I'm trying

34:17

to learn more about that now because

34:19

I didn't really know as much about

34:21

that back in the day. They didn't

34:23

have the kinds of cameras they have

34:26

now that are so incredibly clear and...

34:28

So it's been a fun challenge. But

34:30

you've been like that all through your

34:32

whole career, whether you figured out how

34:34

to create and produce beats for your

34:37

wrapping. You know, you did it all

34:39

yourself and worked with illustrious people and

34:41

actually had success as a rapper. Do

34:43

you still skateboard? Not as much, like

34:46

I mean, I haven't the snow. Yeah.

34:48

You can't skateboard and snow. Nice. Wow.

34:50

You too plaque. Congratulations. We got a

34:52

hundred thousand. That is, you just got

34:55

that now or do you pull that

34:57

out at every show? You think I

34:59

would do something like that? Kind of,

35:01

probably. No. You just literally got it

35:04

now. That's good. It's amazing. Congratulations. Congratulations.

35:06

Thank you. That's amazing that your hobby

35:08

during COVID stuck with you. I feel

35:10

like a lot of people, I learned

35:12

how to make banana bread and I'm

35:15

telling you I haven't made it again

35:17

since COVID. Okay, yeah. So I feel

35:19

like that's most people. Yeah. And you

35:21

stuck with yours. My two big things

35:24

where I wanted to learn how to

35:26

play piano and I want to learn

35:28

how to run these different kind of

35:30

cameras and stuff. So I, but yeah,

35:33

so, so it's, I think that's, I

35:35

think that's kind of a big part

35:37

of the TV show on the TV

35:39

show on prime. Let me get my

35:42

hands dirty with the cameras and it's

35:44

a small crew just me and a

35:46

couple couple of people filmed that so

35:48

would you ever want to do another

35:50

live show like you had before just

35:53

from home and Stream like this I

35:55

could see that I mean I still

35:57

have a Podcast the Tom Green podcast

35:59

that I sort of turn on sort

36:02

of randomly every once in a while

36:04

guess on it yeah, but I think

36:06

my last guess was my mom but

36:08

but but not me The guilt thing.

36:11

Anytime, any time, yeah, any time. I

36:13

don't, I haven't been doing it regularly,

36:15

but any time, you should come to

36:17

the farm. We can go ride. You're

36:20

not going to the farm. You're not

36:22

going to the farm. You know, I'll

36:24

ride a mule or... I don't want

36:26

to touch anything. I had an idea

36:28

for a show. It's comedians on mules

36:31

drinking beer. Yeah. That would be funny.

36:33

Your chickens died. Yeah, yeah, that was

36:35

an unfortunate thing. That did happen. There's

36:37

only one left, right? The coyotes got

36:40

them. Didn't you have one left? Wait,

36:42

I thought don't keep away, coyotes keep

36:44

away, coyotes. They do, but this one,

36:46

the chickens were on this side of

36:49

the fence. No, the donkeys off and

36:51

it's not, no, she's a good donkey.

36:53

Okay, the donkey was off on the

36:55

other side of the other side. Yeah,

36:58

that we just solved the answer to

37:00

that question, that agile question, is to

37:02

stay away from the coyotes. Why did

37:04

the chicken cross the road to stay

37:06

away from the coyotes and get into

37:09

the donkey pen? When are you getting

37:11

married? Probably this summer, I think. Yeah,

37:13

or maybe you have to ask Amanda.

37:15

I mean, she's been living in a

37:18

van for the last couple of weeks.

37:20

She might decide she wants to get

37:22

out of the situation. Amanda, move up

37:24

to the mic right to the mic.

37:27

Can I make? Hopefully this summer. Can

37:29

I make a suggestion? Yeah. My brother's

37:31

ordained weddings and he has really cool

37:33

thing where he like does something with

37:36

an animal every time he officiates a

37:38

wedding. Well, don't say it like that.

37:40

What happens to this animal? Well, it

37:42

depends on the wedding. Like for me,

37:44

mine was penguin theme. He married me.

37:47

So he dressed like a penguin. Okay.

37:49

And then he put a rock in

37:51

front of her fiancé at the time,

37:53

her husband. And do you know the

37:56

story of penguins? Do you know the

37:58

story about penguins? They mate for life.

38:00

They're the most, the only monogamous. Animal

38:02

in in the in wildlife and the

38:05

way they do is a male Will

38:07

find a stone and kick it to

38:09

the female if the female accepts the

38:11

stone That's the one they make with

38:14

for the rest of the life. So

38:16

he dressed like a Like a penguin

38:18

and he kicked a Stone to her

38:20

that's nice married her sister he didn't

38:22

marry her sister he oversaw the marriage

38:25

of her sister and he brought a

38:27

what do you bring a sloth a

38:29

sloth oh nice to tell them that

38:31

there is no rush to take things

38:34

slow yeah my son is here in

38:36

the room you're both here yeah we

38:38

may have an animal we do have

38:40

an okay yeah I suggest we get

38:43

married right now well yeah Just saying,

38:45

just time, he's really, he's really good.

38:47

Alex, where is he? Is Alex here?

38:49

Yeah. Alex, do you have an idea

38:52

for them? No, he doesn't ordain us.

38:54

He doesn't ordain us. He's ordained. He

38:56

would be the efficient. He's the efficient.

38:58

Do you have an idea for Tom

39:00

and Amanda's nuptials? What animal? Uh, I

39:03

don't know. Half a donkey half a

39:05

donkey I have a I have a

39:07

actual donkey to a full donkey Kia's

39:09

a full donkey. Yeah, like like a

39:12

car Yeah, and the Fanny is the

39:14

meal, but I ride this mule every

39:16

day, you know I do I'm not

39:18

changing the subject, but I ride this

39:21

mule every day I mean Which is

39:23

pretty amazing, you know, I do actually

39:25

where do you go when you say

39:27

you're riding it I rider out into

39:29

the wilderness. So this farm is kind

39:32

of a neat place. There's trails that

39:34

go off as a man. Do you

39:36

guys live together now? Yep, we do,

39:38

yeah. So there's a man that videotape

39:41

you going off into the sunset? Sometimes,

39:43

but usually it's just something that kind

39:45

of do just kind of relax sort

39:47

of my kind of way to get

39:50

up. When you see your man and

39:52

your mule going off, you have like

39:54

a hundred acres, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

39:56

Say that again? It's really fun when

39:59

I'm like doing things around the house

40:01

and all of a sudden I just

40:03

see him sort of like gallivanting by

40:05

on this meal with his... Gallivants! I

40:07

do, I gallivant around. Can you imagine

40:10

that? You're doing like... housework or whatever

40:12

you're doing? What do you do? You're

40:14

in the, like you're in the house,

40:16

what would you be doing? Tidying up

40:19

the kitchen or something and then all

40:21

of a sudden he just, you know,

40:23

goes by, goes by on the mule.

40:25

She's a big meal too. She's a

40:28

very impressive mule. My dad one time

40:30

got my mom an elephant in the

40:32

backyard. Okay, well, well, not a good

40:34

story. Okay, yeah, yeah, caused a lot

40:37

of damage. I bet, I bet. I

40:39

was trying to be nice, not funny.

40:41

Yeah. I rented an elephant for the

40:43

day for her birthday. Speaking of things

40:45

like that, that's what you, and I

40:48

veered for a long time. the shock

40:50

value of everything you did when you

40:52

spray painted your dad's car when you

40:54

like I just remember it's it means

40:57

nothing now after you know what you

40:59

can see on the internet today but

41:01

I was going I can't believe They

41:03

gotta be actors. That's not his parents.

41:06

He didn't do that. Every time I

41:08

watch it, I would tune in to

41:10

go, how far can he push it?

41:12

How far can he push it? And

41:15

that was what was amazing. And I

41:17

don't think I could stress today to

41:19

all these young ones that are pressing

41:21

the buttons here. You guys weren't even

41:23

born when he was spray painting his

41:26

dad's car. We were on the Tom

41:28

Green show on MTV. It would have

41:30

been 99 on MTV. Oh, you were

41:32

born. Yeah. There was something about the

41:35

confusion that it caused, like you said,

41:37

are those, my real parents, people didn't

41:39

really understand that that was something that.

41:41

could be real on TV. You know,

41:44

even poo on the mic. Yeah, yeah.

41:46

It was sort of, it was, it

41:48

was, it was an extra layer of

41:50

confusion, not just the act itself, but

41:53

just the fact that it was on

41:55

TV and are these real people. I

41:57

mean, the only real... Was it real

41:59

poo? Yeah, that was real poo, yeah,

42:01

it was real poo, of course, of

42:04

course it was, yeah. He used to

42:06

put poo on a microphone and then

42:08

interview people in the street. and it

42:10

was the funniest, I was, I would

42:13

watch, I'm being honest, I would cry,

42:15

I would be crying, until I thought

42:17

I was gonna die, like I couldn't

42:19

breathe. No, what I loved about that

42:22

bit was, that was, we shot that

42:24

for MTV, so we were in New

42:26

York at that point, and you know,

42:28

it was that, you know, we didn't

42:31

have cell phones, people weren't filming each

42:33

other all the time, people were not

42:35

media literate towards video the way they

42:37

are the way they are today, so,

42:39

so, you know when you go interview

42:42

somebody with a handheld mic, you put

42:44

the mic up to them and they

42:46

sort of get a little nervous and

42:48

they feel like they got to say

42:51

something. I think even more so in

42:53

the 1999 people were even more nervous

42:55

about a camera and stuff. So they

42:57

would just sort of not notice that

43:00

there was some poo on the mic.

43:02

Even though it was like right under

43:04

their nose. Clearly smelled like poo poo

43:06

poo, you know, but they would just

43:09

sort of you know be having a

43:11

very serious conversation about Pete Sampras or

43:13

something like that and Howie Mandel here.

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kind of like what I thought was

43:42

kind of, you know, if there was

43:44

anything... There was not just shocking but

43:47

kind of interesting about that video was

43:49

there was sort of a a little

43:51

bit of a magic to it about

43:53

the way we would kind of like

43:55

trick people into you know just sort

43:58

of talking and being there and you

44:00

know that's my favorite thing in life

44:02

my favorite thing in life I always

44:04

say to her and to her mother

44:07

you know I don't like jokes and

44:09

I I find it much more enjoyable

44:11

to put somebody in an awkward position

44:13

or even sometimes just anger them than

44:16

to make somebody laugh. I just think

44:18

there's, is that wrong to say? No,

44:20

but I found that when we started

44:22

this podcast, we were saying that we

44:24

wanted to do a lot of pranks,

44:27

like we wanted to do prang phone

44:29

calls. Whenever someone would come in here

44:31

and you wanted to do prang phone

44:33

call, I feel like you were alone.

44:36

A lot of people didn't like the

44:38

idea of pranks. They felt like it

44:40

was mean to do something that someone

44:42

else wasn't in on joke. I think

44:45

there's sort of always like a line

44:47

there. Like, like my parents, I think

44:49

the way they reacted to. these big

44:51

elaborate pranks which were could be construed

44:54

as mean but because of the way

44:56

they reacted where they were mad but

44:58

also slightly amused and and surprised and

45:00

maybe even a bit relieved because they

45:02

saw that I was doing something with

45:05

my life, right? They were worried about

45:07

me, you know, what's this kid going

45:09

to do with his life and all

45:11

of a sudden I was in school

45:14

for broadcasting and the show was on

45:16

the public access station. The Ottawa Citizen

45:18

had written an article about it so

45:20

it was like, oh this is like

45:23

a newspaper in my hometown. He's applying

45:25

himself to something so even though I'd

45:27

be waking them up in the middle

45:29

of the night with a camera and

45:32

painting their house or something like that

45:34

they would sort of get mad, but

45:36

then kind of... They'd always have a

45:38

good line like on the show on

45:40

the new show my parents are the

45:43

funniest part of the show I mean

45:45

very funny It's like I've moved back.

45:47

It's a dryness. It's a dry kind

45:49

of reaction and they got a good

45:52

sense of humor Yeah, and that really

45:54

was what made it You know like

45:56

their reaction back then was funny now

45:58

now now on the new show like

46:01

I don't prank them on the new

46:03

show, but it's just we'll be in

46:05

the garden talking and talking and they're

46:07

sort of razzing me now right aging

46:10

child that's come home and is still

46:12

being sort of treated like their You

46:14

know, I'm still their kid, you know.

46:16

Also the, the, I'm using the, I'm

46:18

probably using, or bravery. Your comedy was

46:21

incredibly brave, but then the, the, being

46:23

diagnosed with cancer is devastating and scary.

46:25

And then to make the choice to

46:27

make that a special, because you would

46:30

have to have made that decision. not

46:32

knowing what the outcome would be. Yeah,

46:34

yeah, yeah. Because I would imagine, you

46:36

know, we all have, in our lives,

46:39

we have loved ones, like did people

46:41

try to talk you out of it?

46:43

I don't recall anyone really trying to

46:45

talk me out of it, but I

46:48

do think at that time I was.

46:51

I think probably people knew that they

46:53

couldn't talk me out of stuff back

46:55

then. I'd be more likely they could

46:58

have talked me out of something now,

47:00

but I was pretty stubborn when I

47:02

was in my 20s. For those who

47:04

are listening or watching right now that

47:07

don't know, you had testicular cancer and

47:09

it was right in the middle of

47:11

a successful run on MTV of your

47:14

series and then you stopped doing this

47:16

series and did a special or a

47:18

documentary or short... from your surgery or

47:20

from your diet after your diagnosis to

47:23

your treatment? It kind of happened like

47:25

so the show you know we moved

47:27

to New York for MTV we were

47:30

in New York for the first I'm

47:32

not even sure if it was a

47:34

year it was almost a year or

47:37

something like that about a year and

47:39

then the show was doing great and

47:41

we moved to Los Angeles and the

47:43

whole The whole crew moved, like a

47:46

lot of people or staff, not everybody,

47:48

but three quarters of the staff, you

47:50

know, the crew and the camera people

47:53

and producers, you know, got rid of

47:55

their apartments, we all moved to LA,

47:57

we got these cool offices for our...

47:59

show over on Orange Avenue in Hollywood

48:02

in this cool studio place and and

48:04

we were just beginning to start shooting

48:06

these shows when I got diagnosed with

48:09

cancer so so you know sort of

48:11

immediately you're told okay we're gonna have

48:13

to stop the show you're gonna have

48:15

to. Did you think you were gonna

48:18

die? I definitely thought it was within

48:20

the realm of possibility I mean I

48:22

because I I sort of talked about

48:25

this like where it's like you know

48:27

You know if you're I felt like

48:29

if I'm so unlucky to have gotten

48:32

this I probably you know gonna be

48:34

not one of the lucky ones that

48:36

survive it even though it's a very

48:38

survivable form I'm a pessimist very much

48:41

so I'm always gonna think of the

48:43

most I mean that's not something you

48:45

say who says that proudly I'm a

48:48

that's not something you say who says

48:50

that proudly I'm a pessimist so no

48:52

but like you know I often kind

48:54

of think of think of the most

48:57

worst case scenario is a lot of

48:59

the time so you know I'm thinking

49:01

okay well that's funny that you should

49:04

say that because it as somebody who

49:06

doesn't know you well you seem fearless.

49:08

I always kind of think that okay

49:10

well like you know if this show

49:13

doesn't work then you know I'm I

49:15

don't know what the heck I'm gonna

49:17

do with my life so I have

49:20

to make it work and in this

49:22

case with the cancer I thought well

49:24

you know you know part of it

49:27

was okay our whole crew was there

49:29

we had to stop the show and

49:31

a We'd only been there for a

49:33

few months. I thought, well, we could

49:36

do another show about this. It would

49:38

help people and kind of kept the

49:40

show going because it was just it

49:43

was the final episode of the time

49:45

Green Show was the cancer special. And

49:47

that kept the show going for another

49:49

couple of months of shooting. But you

49:52

didn't know the outcome when you made

49:54

the decision to let's shoot this and

49:56

do this. No, no, no. I mean,

49:59

I did know that it was sort

50:01

of a... highly curable form of cancer

50:03

like I mean the odds were in

50:05

my favor that I would survive so

50:08

I mean but I mean it is

50:10

also possible that you don't don't live

50:12

from it so I mean there was

50:15

sort of a I don't know I

50:17

think I think we were just so

50:19

kind of I mean it is kind

50:22

of crazy when now that you mention

50:24

it You know been sort of an

50:26

unexpected sort of positive consequence of this

50:28

as you know, you know testicular cancer

50:31

affects young guys and you know, I

50:33

have had Hundreds and hundreds of men

50:35

come up to my show at my

50:38

stand-up shows who've come up and said

50:40

I watched that show just less just

50:42

a few weeks ago in it was

50:44

like it was Nashville or something like

50:47

that guy came up to me was

50:49

40 five-year-old guy and he sort of

50:51

was very emotional like he went to

50:54

the doctor because of the special when

50:56

he was in college and ended up

50:58

having cancer and was cured and now

51:00

he's got a wife and kids and

51:03

was sort of like you know and

51:05

this this happens like all the time

51:07

now it's weird because it's so it's

51:10

if anything that's been the most incredible

51:12

thing that's happened from that but at

51:14

the time it was yeah it was

51:17

I will say there was probably a

51:19

good week where I thought that I

51:21

was going to try to handle it

51:23

privately and not let anybody know because

51:26

I was sort of embarrassed, you know,

51:28

about, oh, they're going to remove my

51:30

testicle. That's kind of, you know, you're

51:33

29 years old, that's kind of, you

51:35

know, at first glance, you're thinking, well,

51:37

that's kind of an embarrassing thing to

51:39

have to let everybody know. And so

51:42

I was, there was a moment there

51:44

where I thought, well, like, like, like,

51:46

like, like, like, like, like, like, you

51:49

know, maybe I should just kind of

51:51

go handle this and but then I'm

51:53

saying, well, we'll. should do it maybe

51:56

maybe maybe it is I think we

51:58

also thought like well this could be

52:00

funny too right like an excuse to

52:02

talk about balls on TV and then

52:05

it seemed very interesting and obviously no

52:07

it was amazing it was also groundbreaking

52:09

it's just that I can't fathom you

52:12

know listen I'm old and we all

52:14

have experiences with if not ourselves loved

52:16

ones being diagnosed and thinking I can't

52:18

Having had that experience, I can't imagine

52:21

going, oh, let's shoot this. Yeah, you

52:23

know, you know, you know, in Hunt,

52:25

the thing that's interesting about it, I

52:28

haven't really talked about this aspect of

52:30

an old, maybe ever, but like, it

52:32

actually made it a lot easier to

52:34

deal with it because I was now

52:37

focused on making the show and as

52:39

well as getting. through the cancer but

52:41

you know because you know when you

52:44

get sick your whole life stops you

52:46

know or if somebody gets sick your

52:48

whole life stops and everything was important

52:51

the show or the thing you're doing

52:53

you know you're that you're passionate about

52:55

all of sudden all of that stuff

52:57

becomes meaningless and it's like this is

53:00

just focus on getting through this and

53:02

now you're in this sort of new

53:04

territory where all you have is to

53:07

focus on is this illness And your

53:09

life is completely turned upside down because

53:11

you're used to worrying about all these

53:13

other things and doing all these other

53:16

things. And because of the fact that

53:18

we kind of kept the show going,

53:20

I was still able to keep doing

53:23

what I normally did. And that kind

53:25

of was a nice distraction, you know,

53:27

honestly, because it was a terrifying thing

53:29

to have to go through. And so

53:32

on one hand, you're sitting there. terrified

53:34

and scared but then their hand you're

53:36

going like how are we going to

53:39

make this funny well let's see if

53:41

Glenn can get down into the into

53:43

the operating room and see the testicle

53:46

afterwards and you're sort of talking about

53:48

this stuff and it's getting your mind

53:50

off of all the horrible stuff that's

53:52

going on. Okay so you did all

53:55

that but then at some point after

53:57

I think you were on some show

53:59

did you walk off a show because

54:02

somebody was talking about it or you

54:04

know it's happened a few times but

54:06

it's like you know That's a weird

54:08

thing that has happened, I'd say, just

54:11

generally, which is people like, I think

54:13

people think it's like, and maybe it

54:15

is, I don't know, I just, I

54:18

took it personally for a while when

54:20

people would come up to me and

54:22

say, how's your ball doing, man? Like,

54:24

you know, because I was like still

54:27

recovering in pain, you know, and people

54:29

assume because I did the show, that

54:31

might be the unintended consequence of doing

54:34

the show. people kind of think they

54:36

can make a joke about my how

54:38

are your nuts man how's your nuts

54:41

huh how's your one nut doing happens

54:43

like almost you know every day I

54:45

don't know something and so for the

54:47

first couple years you'd be kind of

54:50

like what the fuck man I just

54:52

can I swear on this I just

54:54

went through cancer you know and like

54:57

and you're really kind of still kind

54:59

of suffering with the emotional aspects of

55:01

it and it took me a while

55:03

to realize that you know it's something

55:06

that people don't think about like it's

55:08

when you balls is always always been

55:10

like a joke you know you got

55:13

balls how you know you it's always

55:15

kind of a gag word you know

55:17

and so so when there was a

55:19

there was a time in the early

55:22

days when people would kind of Make

55:24

a crack about it that I would

55:26

get mad. Yeah, and was it the

55:29

Carson Daily show? It's happened a lot

55:31

I don't think it was him but

55:33

it's happened quite a few times But

55:36

it but you know like just generally

55:38

on the street, but I'm saying you

55:40

walked off a television show maybe I

55:42

try not to think about okay Do

55:45

you think it's a misunderstanding like people

55:47

were? trying to be funny and didn't

55:49

realize that I was kind of going

55:52

through sensitive. Yeah, yeah, so. Well I

55:54

just think about it, it's not the

55:56

same thing, cancer is not the same

55:58

thing, but like you make jokes about

56:01

even your OCD and stuff like that,

56:03

which is very serious to him and

56:05

he suffers tremendously with anxiety, with depression.

56:08

And I use comedy and he uses

56:10

comedy. When you make a joke about

56:12

it, it's okay, but when people come

56:14

up make a... joke about it or

56:17

like kind of try to see light

56:19

in it so that it helps you

56:21

and what you're going through and people

56:24

don't realize that it's something actually very

56:26

serious. Well I was friends with Louis

56:28

Anderson and Louis Anderson, you know, his

56:31

very funny comedian and who's no longer

56:33

with us. His routine was based on

56:35

his weight. you know and i remember

56:37

being with him in a restaurant and

56:40

somebody came over very rudely trying to

56:42

be funny yeah making fun of you

56:44

know something like leave some food for

56:47

us whatever and he got angry yeah

56:49

and and and i agreed with the

56:51

fact it's not their place you don't

56:53

know and maybe he became a comedian

56:56

and and uses humor to you know,

56:58

to cope. So it's a, yeah, it's

57:00

exactly that. So it's a strange thing

57:03

when you do a show about your

57:05

testicular cancer and then people make jokes

57:07

about your testicular cancer, you know, you

57:09

kind of got to expect that's going

57:12

to happen. But it took me a

57:14

while to kind of learn how to

57:16

kind of do the math on that

57:19

and not sort of immediately react negatively

57:21

and just going to go, okay, not

57:23

everybody's thinking about this. What about your

57:26

parents? Did your parents? Would

57:29

they have to be they were in

57:31

it? They were supportive of you making

57:33

this decision because I as a parent

57:35

You know, I'm sure they felt as

57:37

much as you had fear and as

57:39

much as you had Pain and you

57:41

were dealing with it. That's their baby.

57:44

Yeah, you know, and that's got to

57:46

be I mean your parent Yeah, I

57:48

mean my mother I think talks about

57:50

it in the documentary a bit, but

57:52

it's sort of I think she was

57:54

the one that said, you know, she

57:56

knew she wasn't going to be able

57:59

to talk me out of it, so

58:01

she kind of had to go with

58:03

it. But yeah, it's a weird time.

58:05

It was a weird time. It was

58:07

a weird time. Yeah, I was living

58:09

in William Shatner's house at the time,

58:11

by the way, who also auditioned for

58:14

Freddie got fingered. Did he, was in

58:16

it? Did he get it? He was

58:18

in it. No, he auditioned for the

58:20

rip-torn part, who played my father. Right.

58:22

And not to bring it back to

58:24

that. I know it's a sore subject.

58:26

You're in good company. But he was

58:29

my landlord. Riptorn played my father. He

58:31

was in it. I saw the movie.

58:33

You didn't offer me. So sometimes. Can

58:35

I just say something? Yes, people came

58:37

in and audition. And sometimes you didn't

58:39

see them as right for the part.

58:41

Like William Shatner. It was the landlord.

58:44

William Shatner was the landlord. You came

58:46

in for the Riptorn part, but then

58:48

he was the landlord. I came in

58:50

for the uncle. No, not in the

58:52

film at all. Another Canadian, by the

58:54

way. What is it with these Canadians

58:56

not getting parts and vertically got fingered?

58:59

I support Canadians. This is, you know,

59:01

do you know this company? Is it

59:03

Canadian? Yeah. Will we have to only

59:05

buy Canadian now, of course, right? They

59:07

make another political statement. This is not

59:09

political. This is underwear. Which says underwear.

59:11

Large, medium? Large, let's go, yeah. You

59:13

just said, because it's a loud, Amanda,

59:16

you're showing Amanda, Amanda, the smallest, large,

59:18

medium, Amanda. All right, feel them, feel

59:20

them. Oh, very nice. Very nice, that's

59:22

the plastic. I know, I know, these

59:24

are four guys from Montreal, and I

59:26

saw them online and they were posting

59:28

on Instagram. Very soft, yeah. Aren't they

59:31

soft? It seemed like Montreal kind of

59:33

Undis, too. I don't know. In one

59:35

way, it's very French. Just sort of

59:37

French, kind of a nice sort of,

59:39

it is, sort of European kind of

59:41

fabric. I won't wear the underpants from

59:43

Saskatchewan. Styleish? Yeah, yeah, no, it's like

59:46

hate. Burlap. Burlap. No, Edmonton underpants, just.

59:48

Just Montreal. Yes, that's great because I

59:50

have been living in a van for

59:52

the last month. Oh, do you want

59:54

to do you would you would Amanda

59:56

wear men's? Men's Boxers, would you? But

59:58

she probably had half small. If I

1:00:01

had an extra pair for sure. Okay,

1:00:03

I'll give you an extra pair. Here's

1:00:05

Amanda. Yeah, I'll give you an extra

1:00:07

pair. Here's Amanda. We need to support

1:00:09

our people. Yeah, we really do. No.

1:00:11

Yeah. That's. I'm kidding. Jeremy. One of

1:00:13

my favorite movies and when I was

1:00:16

21 I watched it like every day

1:00:18

for an entire summer and then my

1:00:20

dad came out all pissed off me

1:00:22

one time and he was his dad

1:00:24

showed up pissed off. Yeah. Oh. And

1:00:26

he told me to stop watching stupid

1:00:28

movies and do something with my life.

1:00:31

So there you go. And, and, and

1:00:33

here you are. Now you're directing the

1:00:35

Howie Mandel show. Wait, you see how

1:00:37

much of a fan this guy is.

1:00:39

I have x-ray cat on my way.

1:00:41

Oh my gosh, okay, there you go.

1:00:43

You've got superpowers. You can see through

1:00:46

wooden doors with your x-ray vision. Put

1:00:48

it up, cut to this, look at

1:00:50

this, look at this. Oh, this is

1:00:52

amazing, okay. Oh wow, look at that.

1:00:54

I'm x-ray cat, I got superpowers, I

1:00:56

could see through wooden doors with my

1:00:58

That's pretty cool. Do you regret the

1:01:00

tattoo as much as I regret making

1:01:03

the movie? No, I'm just joking. That

1:01:05

story is kind of like the entire

1:01:07

plot of the movie. Yeah, absolutely, that's

1:01:09

amazing. Cool. No, but except for me,

1:01:11

second, Jeremy's thrilled that you're here. Amanda's

1:01:13

not thrilled that she showed up because

1:01:15

she wanted to be involved in the

1:01:18

wedding plans, but me and Jackie and

1:01:20

my son and my son took over.

1:01:22

the nuptials ours absolutely what's next buddy

1:01:24

well i'm uh... I am on tour

1:01:26

right now so I'm leaving here in

1:01:28

the van. Where do you go from?

1:01:30

We're going up to Colorado and we're

1:01:33

going to be in Colorado Springs and

1:01:35

Aspen and then we're going up to

1:01:37

Chicago and Pittsburgh and all over all

1:01:39

the way over all the dates are

1:01:41

on the site but doing a lot

1:01:43

of stand up and working on new

1:01:45

projects with my production company of new

1:01:48

shows I'm developing and living at the

1:01:50

farm I'm enjoying it up there and

1:01:52

just you and your girlfriend in the

1:01:54

van. So we don't live in it

1:01:56

per per, like when I'm touring, we

1:01:58

get a hotel. You get a hotel.

1:02:00

No. You know, the van is. You

1:02:03

know, it's probably too soon to bring

1:02:05

up the Palito story. The van is

1:02:07

really kind of a cool piece. What's

1:02:09

that? The Palito story? No, it's potato.

1:02:11

Petito. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, yeah. No,

1:02:13

yeah. That's a downer. That's a downer.

1:02:15

Gabby Petito? I think I do, yeah,

1:02:18

just because I... What was it? Well,

1:02:20

I don't think we shouldn't even talk

1:02:22

about it, it seems like it's all

1:02:24

too negative. Maybe I don't know what

1:02:26

it is. Am I thinking of the

1:02:28

wrong thing? No, you think you're the

1:02:30

right thing. What do you think is

1:02:33

negative? Isn't there a murder involved or

1:02:35

something? In a van or... And a

1:02:37

suicide? Yeah, yeah, no. We cut that

1:02:39

word out. Just the word. How about

1:02:41

the whole... whole thing whole bit no

1:02:43

no it's okay no it's okay no

1:02:45

listen here's the thing let me just

1:02:47

kind of kind of segue into the

1:02:50

van itself though for a second so

1:02:52

the van is like this it's kind

1:02:54

of cool actually I found these guys

1:02:56

who were on Shark Tank. They have

1:02:58

this company called Boho. Two young guys

1:03:00

in Phoenix. They take Vans. They convert

1:03:02

them. They take Ram Pro Master Vans.

1:03:05

And they convert them into these really

1:03:07

cool campers. And they've got Soho Vans.

1:03:09

Yeah. Check them out. Who don't sponsor

1:03:11

this show, but they could. Absolutely. They're

1:03:13

really cool. They're really cool there and

1:03:15

they there's solar but the thing that's

1:03:17

cool about it is there's solar panels

1:03:20

on the roof and These lithium batteries

1:03:22

and you basically have power so you

1:03:24

we drive out into these amazing national

1:03:26

parks and incredible beautiful dispersed camping. It's

1:03:28

called places where there's dispersed camping. Yeah,

1:03:30

it's a whole world. There's a whole

1:03:32

world of places you can go out

1:03:35

in the American Southwest and the desert

1:03:37

and just be all alone out there

1:03:39

in these most incredibly beautiful natural settings

1:03:41

and just stay there and there's. power

1:03:43

and I can charge my cameras up

1:03:45

and my computer and my phone and

1:03:47

you can solar just keeps regenerating the

1:03:50

electricity. Are you recording the tour? Yeah,

1:03:52

well we're filming stuff just for fun

1:03:54

for social media and for my shows.

1:03:56

We're going to see it on Amazon

1:03:58

Prime. Yeah, you'll see some stuff. We'll

1:04:00

see that. I like that. But it's

1:04:02

really kind of fun. But you know

1:04:05

we go to sort of a sort

1:04:07

of a... Amazing location film and then

1:04:09

we'll go in a hotel or a

1:04:11

four seasons like a four seasons yeah

1:04:13

get a nice place I don't take

1:04:15

a shower I know that's what I'm

1:04:17

saying I just it seems like filthy

1:04:20

to be in a in the well

1:04:22

it's not an oh it's not sort

1:04:24

of a germaphobes sort of you know

1:04:26

dream to go live in the desert

1:04:28

people in a desert like what about

1:04:30

but i mean there's incredible stuff in

1:04:32

the bathroom you know there's there's actually

1:04:34

a lot of these campsites have bathroom

1:04:37

facilities oh you were talking about dispersing

1:04:39

i didn't know what well well the

1:04:41

dispersing one is i mean you know

1:04:43

it's more like Hardcore camping, you know,

1:04:45

but we hardcore like what do you

1:04:47

like? You just sort of dig a

1:04:49

hole in the ground or something like

1:04:52

that You know just go from and

1:04:54

no no no no because we don't

1:04:56

go for a long Oh, we just

1:04:58

go for a couple we go we

1:05:00

go and we go to places where

1:05:02

there's nice bath like when you're with

1:05:04

your fiance you know, I don't take

1:05:07

her to the super dispersed where she

1:05:09

has to dig a hole in the

1:05:11

ground but it would be gentlemanly for

1:05:13

you to dig the hole and I

1:05:15

would dig the hole in the hole

1:05:17

here. I would dig the hole in

1:05:19

the hole in the hole in the

1:05:22

hole in the hole in the hole

1:05:24

in the hole in the hole in

1:05:26

the hole in the ground if I

1:05:28

would dig the hole in the hole

1:05:30

in the hole in the hole in

1:05:32

the hole in the ground. But so

1:05:34

you know we actually grew up on

1:05:37

the same little army base and we

1:05:39

kind of you know we're we're we're

1:05:41

hardy folk we go camping and stuff

1:05:43

like that. You're not military are you

1:05:45

military? No my dad was military yeah.

1:05:47

Why did you use your real first

1:05:49

name? I've never been called Michael and

1:05:52

no one's ever called I don't that's

1:05:54

a question I've asked my parents and

1:05:56

they don't even know the answer. They

1:05:58

named me Mike. Michael Thomas Green, and

1:06:00

it's been Tommy since I was a

1:06:02

kid, and then Tom, no one ever

1:06:04

called me Michael. I don't even know

1:06:07

why that is. Is your mother dyslexic?

1:06:09

It's possible that my mother is dyslexic,

1:06:11

yeah. Because I'm Howie Michael. Yeah, okay,

1:06:13

yeah. But nobody calls me Michael. Yeah,

1:06:15

it's one of those weird things where

1:06:17

I've always been called by my middle

1:06:19

name, so I don't know. What did

1:06:21

your brother do? Yeah. She went to

1:06:24

camp in Canada. Oh yeah, really? Which

1:06:26

camp would you go to? Northland and

1:06:28

Abrith? In Haliburton? Oh, in Haliburton. Very

1:06:30

nice. So were they shot meatballs? I

1:06:32

don't know, is it it? I think

1:06:34

they shot meatballs out in Haliburton. Nice.

1:06:36

Did you know that? That they shot

1:06:39

meatballs in Haliburton? No. They did. No,

1:06:41

I didn't know that, but we could.

1:06:43

The more, you know. Yeah, meatballs. That

1:06:45

was the NBC thing. That was a.

1:06:47

But there's stuff out in the desert

1:06:49

that's amazing. We, like a few days

1:06:51

ago, we were at Chalko Canyon, which

1:06:54

is. Chalko Canyon? Yeah, which is in

1:06:56

New Mexico. And we were there for

1:06:58

three nights. And it's this incredible. Are

1:07:00

there toilets? there was toilets there good

1:07:02

absolutely and running water in the toilets

1:07:04

it's in the national park you look

1:07:06

it up online look up the gallo

1:07:09

campground gallows in chocco yes very looking

1:07:11

it up it's coming out we're breaking

1:07:13

bad with him yeah you can show

1:07:15

show you can look up on here

1:07:17

under the table show under the table

1:07:19

there no the table in front of

1:07:21

you oh Oh yeah, right, so this

1:07:24

is a Native American ruins that rival

1:07:26

Machu Picchu, you've heard of Machu Picchu,

1:07:28

so it's just beautiful, these things are

1:07:30

out in the desert, these incredible stone

1:07:32

ruins of these incredible structures that were

1:07:34

built in the year 875 till around

1:07:36

1150, this civilized... society that was out

1:07:39

there. If you look at some of

1:07:41

the, oh my gosh, I didn't know

1:07:43

we had ruins in America. I know

1:07:45

that, so yeah, actually just thought we

1:07:47

had ruins in America? I went to

1:07:49

Europe, just put in Chaco Canyon ruins.

1:07:51

They're showing you the campground now, which

1:07:54

is down the road from the ruins.

1:07:56

you'll actually got to see. So it's

1:07:58

amazing. So when I started going, yeah,

1:08:00

look at this, look at this. So,

1:08:02

oh my gosh. So this is in

1:08:04

America, okay? So I didn't know, you

1:08:06

knew we had ruins in America? Yes.

1:08:08

Like it's like. Pre-Columbian ruins, right? So

1:08:11

I feel you feel kind of like

1:08:13

Indiana Jones when you're going out there

1:08:15

exploring this stuff. That's amazing. We go

1:08:17

all the way to Europe. Yeah, so

1:08:19

I see things. Look at that. So

1:08:21

these, so these, so these, so these,

1:08:23

so these, so these ruins here, these

1:08:26

ruins here were built in the year

1:08:28

875 and then they, civilization left at

1:08:30

1150 because of a drought. But, what

1:08:32

are the, what are these structures? What

1:08:34

were they used for? What were they

1:08:36

used for trade and there was all

1:08:38

sorts of cultural sort of cultural sort

1:08:41

of exchange happening. uh... you know people

1:08:43

from all over north america came there

1:08:45

they found like i've done a little

1:08:47

bit of research from what year eight

1:08:49

seventy five to eleven fifty it was

1:08:51

inhabited and was a sort of central

1:08:53

meeting point for uh... for native tribes

1:08:56

all across north america they found yuckitan

1:08:58

uh... peninsula sort of artifacts and feathers

1:09:00

from from Macaw feathers there and pottery

1:09:02

that's from. I want to go there.

1:09:04

Did you think that's amazing? Yeah, you

1:09:06

don't want to go. Oh, I don't

1:09:08

want to go. You will not camp.

1:09:11

You don't want to go on. I

1:09:13

don't want to camp. I want to

1:09:15

fly in and fly out. Yeah, go

1:09:17

in a helicopter or something like that.

1:09:19

You can do that. You can do

1:09:21

that. But it's really. It really is

1:09:23

sort of, that's kind of what it

1:09:26

is. Oh, I like that. I like

1:09:28

that. That's nice. And we're doing a

1:09:30

lot of photography and getting pictures of

1:09:32

these. My son doesn't like that stuff.

1:09:34

Alex, we took him to Europe and

1:09:36

we, do you remember what he said?

1:09:38

Everything's ruined. Everything's ruined. Everything's ruined. Why?

1:09:41

I just I find it so incredibly

1:09:43

interesting because it's like we don't hear

1:09:45

about this. I don't, I didn't even

1:09:47

know that existed. Everyone always talks about

1:09:49

Macho Pichu or the Peruvian lines and

1:09:51

you know, like there's another thing. Look

1:09:53

up not far from here. You could

1:09:55

go to this easily in Blythe California.

1:09:58

Look up the Blythe Intaglio. Yeah, that's

1:10:00

you know where Blythe is halfway between

1:10:02

Phoenix and here. It's just a little

1:10:04

town. Look at that. These are huge.

1:10:06

Oh wait, is that a, is that

1:10:08

an alien? That's a massive drawing on

1:10:10

the ground. That is the size of, you know,

1:10:12

like, you know, that's a huge drawing

1:10:15

that's, that's, you know, 100 meters tall.

1:10:17

In the desert, it's 2,000 years old.

1:10:19

They didn't discover it till 1930 when

1:10:21

a US postal service. Plain flew over

1:10:24

and looked at what the hell is that?

1:10:26

You know, so there's so much mysterious stuff

1:10:28

out in the desert What do you think

1:10:30

that is? Do you think that's aliens? I

1:10:32

think it's aliens. No, it was the the

1:10:34

native Populations did these things, but maybe it

1:10:36

was to communicate with aliens or maybe was

1:10:38

to well, they were obviously trying something

1:10:40

that they They were drawing something so that's just a

1:10:42

couple hours you and a man that go there

1:10:45

like what do you do like first of all

1:10:47

That's a great picture from way but when you're

1:10:49

in there like what do you well I have

1:10:51

a little drone so I actually did shoot some

1:10:53

video there when I first went there a few

1:10:55

years ago So I put my drone up above

1:10:57

and I get shots of all this stuff and

1:10:59

and it's kind of fun and but you know

1:11:01

not only is it fun to photograph it's just

1:11:03

kind of very Sort of there's a I

1:11:05

know you always hear people say when they

1:11:07

go to Sadona the energy is so calming

1:11:09

But it really is I'm not even cynical

1:11:11

about it. You really do feel this kind

1:11:13

of energy that is beautiful. I feel it

1:11:15

I feel it you know when you go

1:11:17

in an old comedy club like you

1:11:20

go in a comedy club that's been

1:11:22

there since the beginning like the ice

1:11:24

house in Pasadena or zenies in Chicago

1:11:26

downtown all the pictures are on the

1:11:28

wall and you feel the energy of

1:11:30

comedians of been there before. That is

1:11:33

not like being in an old comedy

1:11:35

club. Well, it's, it's, I get that

1:11:37

feeling like in a comedy club, I

1:11:39

get that feeling when I'm in an

1:11:41

old building, you get that feeling out

1:11:43

there in Chaco Canyon. I think energy

1:11:45

lives on. Yeah, you're in the, exactly,

1:11:48

you're this beautiful canyon and

1:11:50

it's quiet and it's hard

1:11:52

to reach. People don't really

1:11:54

know about these places, they're

1:11:56

not heavily publicized. So where do

1:11:58

you go to that place? make some

1:12:00

food on the fire and have to watch

1:12:02

the sunset and cook some food and I

1:12:05

think that sounds so cool get up in

1:12:07

the morning and make some coffee and go

1:12:09

out and explore the ruins there's lots of

1:12:11

hiking trails and things and you're just out

1:12:14

there all alone you know I find like

1:12:16

I like being alone a lot which is

1:12:18

a weird thing like I really is that

1:12:20

your vow to Amanda no no I mean

1:12:23

like with her alone with her okay I

1:12:25

like going to these calm quiet sort of

1:12:27

natural places where you're sort of alone in

1:12:30

nature and just and and I enjoy documenting

1:12:32

it. If you go on my YouTube channel...

1:12:34

You meditate? I think it's meditate of going

1:12:36

out there. Amanda's teaching me a little bit

1:12:39

about a little bit about meditation. She does,

1:12:41

she does know how to meditate. Transcendal is

1:12:43

she does, does she do that? She's done

1:12:45

some yoga instructing and things like this so

1:12:48

she knows about meditation. I can't do that.

1:12:50

Yeah. I can't take quiet. If you look

1:12:52

on my YouTube channel, actually go on my

1:12:54

YouTube channel right now, since we have this

1:12:57

up. It's Tom, not Michael. Yeah. Go to

1:12:59

the last video on my YouTube channel. It's

1:13:01

just slash Tom Green. And yeah, go to

1:13:03

the one right before that one. This is

1:13:06

us in Chaco Canyon here. And this was

1:13:08

just shot a couple of days ago. Oh,

1:13:10

wow. And we just shot this together. And

1:13:13

this is just us out there out there

1:13:15

in the desert. But they're like, oh my

1:13:17

god. Yeah, so here we are. I shot

1:13:19

all this stuff with the man. That doesn't

1:13:22

look real. Yeah, amazing. And look how beautiful

1:13:24

the canyon is. Look how it's so quiet

1:13:26

and how come nobody else is there? Because

1:13:28

it's hard to get to. The road's not

1:13:31

great. It's not heavily publicized until now. And

1:13:33

how that'll be more good. Look at that.

1:13:35

Yeah, and so that's your shadows. And you

1:13:37

can do shadow puppets. And there's Charlie. Look

1:13:40

at the cinematography. This is beautiful. And so

1:13:42

we just, yeah, I have some playing with

1:13:44

different lenses and things and getting different shots

1:13:46

when we wake up in the morning and

1:13:49

it's you're all alone out there. It's just

1:13:51

a beautiful thing. But it's, you know, this

1:13:53

was. was sort of. Have you ever been

1:13:56

attacked by animals? No, but you see you

1:13:58

see animals out there. We saw a lot.

1:14:00

Is that your belly butt? No, it's good.

1:14:02

Look at these. These were five story structures

1:14:05

at one point. From 800. 800, yeah. And

1:14:07

you can walk all through them and sort

1:14:09

of the you can't even really get a

1:14:11

real grasp on how much is there because

1:14:14

I can only show one thing at once,

1:14:16

but there's multiple areas of ruins throughout the

1:14:18

whole canyon. And it's pretty amazing. I, uh,

1:14:20

it's a nice location for the wedding. Yeah,

1:14:23

it would, it would be to have all

1:14:25

your friends. There's the van. There's the van.

1:14:27

I got my light up and, did they

1:14:29

give you a deal? The van people because

1:14:32

you're, you're plugging it. Uh, you know, well,

1:14:34

they help, they give me a little deal.

1:14:36

Yeah, they give me a little deal. Yeah,

1:14:38

well, you know, I mean, you brought it

1:14:41

up and we are, we are the official

1:14:43

podcast of podcast of, oh. Oh, oh, oh,

1:14:45

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, absolutely. Absolutely,

1:14:48

absolutely. Absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, absolutely, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:14:50

yeah, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

1:14:52

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

1:14:54

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

1:14:57

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

1:14:59

oh, oh David? Oh yeah, they'll love this.

1:15:01

I want a fan. Yeah. Yeah. I don't

1:15:03

think they give you a van. I think

1:15:06

you have a van. I did buy the

1:15:08

van, but they, you know. No, I would

1:15:10

buy a van and maybe they could help

1:15:12

me and then we'll travel all over like

1:15:15

Tarzana and Sherman Oaks. I'll take you all

1:15:17

over the place. See the room. See the

1:15:19

Romans and Studio City. Oh, absolutely. There's a

1:15:21

lot of rooms here now. It's that. It's

1:15:24

a lot of fun out there. You're a

1:15:26

lot of fun out there. You're a lot

1:15:28

of fun, buddy. You're. You're a lot of

1:15:31

fun, buddy. I'm telling you that it is

1:15:33

a treat. Everybody's got to tune in to

1:15:35

Amazon Prime, number one, to see the special

1:15:37

and to see the documentary and to see

1:15:40

what Tom is up to. Also, if he's

1:15:42

playing in a location where you live, we'll

1:15:44

go to tomgreen.com. Yeah, absolutely. It's really Michael.

1:15:46

But go to tomgreen.com. I love that your

1:15:49

mother didn't use the name she gave you.

1:15:51

And they've never been able to explain it

1:15:53

to me, so we'll have to... Have you

1:15:55

asked? I've asked many times, yeah. Do they

1:15:58

call your brother by his middle name too?

1:16:00

No, no, it's just me. I don't know

1:16:02

what it is. I don't know what it

1:16:04

is. It's weird. It is. Definitely weird, yeah.

1:16:07

It is. come from a family that's forward

1:16:09

thinking, isn't your dad, wasn't he in computers,

1:16:11

like, isn't that his time? Yeah, it was

1:16:14

military, and then he, when he retired from

1:16:16

the military, he kept working for the military

1:16:18

and computers, yeah, so. Can't have a parent

1:16:20

that was forward thinking like that, maybe is

1:16:23

genetic? Ottawa was kind of a computer town,

1:16:25

because of the government there, and there's lots

1:16:27

of. There's a thing called the Nabu network

1:16:29

in the 80s in Ottawa, which was the

1:16:32

internet basically. The Nabu network? Yeah, my dad

1:16:34

was like one of the few people that

1:16:36

got it in the city. So we had

1:16:38

this box in our house in the 80s

1:16:41

when I was in high school and you'd

1:16:43

attach your cable, TV cable to it. And

1:16:45

you could chat with all the other Nabu

1:16:47

network subscribers, which was just people in Ottawa,

1:16:50

and play video games and stuff online. It

1:16:52

wasn't online. It was on the Nabu network.

1:16:54

But it was essentially the internet. And so

1:16:57

I guess because my dad was, when he

1:16:59

retired from the military, started working with the

1:17:01

computer side of the military, kind of was

1:17:03

sort of thinking about that stuff more than

1:17:06

other people. And so it was, and then

1:17:08

my friends Glenn Humplich, who was my. co-host

1:17:10

on the show. He was on the show.

1:17:12

Yeah. He's a computer expert and Phil Giroux

1:17:15

was also, they were still friends with these

1:17:17

guys? Yeah, they're friends of mine and they're

1:17:19

in the documentary and they're kind of computer

1:17:21

guys too. So we were always kind of

1:17:24

talking about computers and stuff and building websites

1:17:26

and things like that. So. Well, you know

1:17:28

what you kind of teach us a lesson

1:17:30

you're an inspiration you're a talent you're a

1:17:33

good human I got to come here more

1:17:35

often. This is great. Yeah, absolutely you've really

1:17:37

I'm a fan I watch you not because

1:17:40

not for just research I watch it because

1:17:42

I enjoyed you I enjoy everything that you

1:17:44

do I'm No, it's amazing. I remember a

1:17:46

few years ago I was on tour and

1:17:49

I found your comedy record and in, I

1:17:51

don't know if you remember this, but I

1:17:53

found your comedy record in a vinyl record.

1:17:55

I just sent you a photo of him.

1:17:58

I don't know if you were. I thought

1:18:00

it was so cool that you responded. You

1:18:02

know, I was like, oh my God. Oh,

1:18:04

I wouldn't respond. Yeah, it was cool. I

1:18:07

thought it was cool. You were at my

1:18:09

house a few years ago at a party.

1:18:11

I had a party. and then the last

1:18:13

time I saw you, I don't wanna, you

1:18:16

know, I was a little bit younger than

1:18:18

you, so I grew up watching you a

1:18:20

lot younger. Yeah, I'm gonna be 70. Yeah,

1:18:23

let's just reminisce, let's put another, we're gonna

1:18:25

spend another 15 minutes reminiscing. You know, the

1:18:27

last time I saw you, because it was

1:18:29

traumatic for me. You were walking on Santa

1:18:32

Monica. Yeah, yeah. I came this close to

1:18:34

shit myself. I had to run. I was

1:18:36

running home because I didn't want to use

1:18:38

the public restroom. We were in a restaurant.

1:18:41

It was a quick meeting. It was a

1:18:43

quick meeting. It went high. I got to

1:18:45

go. We were in a restaurant. I got

1:18:47

a go. We were in a restaurant and

1:18:50

I went into the men's room and I

1:18:52

could not use that toilet. My wife was

1:18:54

mad at me and I was running home.

1:18:56

I saw you in the street. You wanted

1:18:59

to talk. Well, thanks for clarifying. I didn't

1:19:01

realize it was because you had the shits.

1:19:03

I thought you just were, you know, not

1:19:06

feeling like talking to me that day. No,

1:19:08

no. But now I've, I feel like we've

1:19:10

come together. I feel like this is good.

1:19:12

I want people to subscribe. I want you

1:19:15

to comment. Absolutely. And thanks for being here.

1:19:17

Take us out, Sunny. So,

1:20:00

The sledmobile, yuckshucks

1:20:02

to an ahead

1:20:04

of his time,

1:20:06

riding with his

1:20:08

his fan with back

1:20:10

to his fan, moving

1:20:12

his meal can

1:20:14

roam free Out

1:20:16

in meal can roam free, out

1:20:18

in Tambri, country. right

1:20:20

now Watchin' how

1:20:23

he bend down

1:20:26

You're too cruel

1:20:28

right now

1:20:30

Watchin' how he

1:20:33

bend down

1:20:35

Dust off, dust

1:20:38

off