A theme emerges eventually but for most of the episode enjoy Cal smashing two seemingly unrelated queer movies together, Alfred Hitchcock's Rope from 1948 and The Birdcage from 1996 starring Robin Williams and Nathan Lane. Rope is fun and strange. We all have strange and conflicted childhood memories about The Birdcage, but we know Val sucks. 

Episodes We Mentioned:
Interview with the Vampire
Song of Achilles
A Strange and Stubborn Endurance
Queerness in Xena: Warrior Princess Season 1
Interview with the Vampire Season 2 Ep. 1-4
Din(cinnatus) vs. Cincinnatus (We are a Cincinnati based podcast)