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Dino Dig. Hello
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and welcome to I-no-dino. Keep
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up with the latest dinosaur
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discoveries and science with us.
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I'm Garrett. And I'm Sabrina.
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And today in our 529th
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episode, we're doing a Dino
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Dules competition. Basically,
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it is similar to
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a certain tournament, which shall
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remain nameless because it
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is trademarked with very
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litigious... enthusiastic lawyers
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involved that happens in the
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spring. Happens in the third month of
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the year. Yes. That involves brackets. So
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basically it's going to be a
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fun competition where you can predict
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which dinosaurs will win in a
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head-to-head match-up and then we'll have
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voting going on on our patron.
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We're just using patron so we
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can make sure people aren't voting
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a whole bunch for the one
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that they want to win. And
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then... If you have the best
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bracket, you'll be able to win
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a price. Yes, and you can be
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a paid or free member of our
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patron to participate. No purchase
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necessary. This is also the
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last probably episode that we're
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pre-recording before our parental leave.
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So next time you hear
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from us, we might be really tired.
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Well, also probably have a lot
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of news to catch up on.
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Yes, that is very true. but
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we'll be continuing with this bracket
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of dinosaur duels because if you've ever
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seen how any of these single elimination
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tournaments go, you know, everybody
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goes through the first round and
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then there's got to be
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a second round, third round.
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round, fourth round in this case.
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So there will be 16
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dinosaurs to start out with.
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A sweet 16, you could say,
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because that's the one that
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isn't trademarked. Yes. We also have
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our Dinosaur of the Day, Kumnoria,
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which is another dinosaur that
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was considered to be Camposaurus for
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a while, and a fun fact
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that's related to this Dino
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Dules competition. To sports. to basketball.
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John Wooden is the most successful
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coach in the history of
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college basketball and he guided UCLA
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to 10 national championships but one
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of his streaks was broken
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by a dinosaur. Duh-duh-duh. When an
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eagle swooped in and stole the
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basketball right out of his
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hand. You're not on the
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right track. We'll get to it.
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But before we get into
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all of that, we have some
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patrons to thank, and they are
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Micah Marcos Music, Yiddit, D.C.
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Cassandra, Big Sheep, Daniel McGill, Zeno
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Rama, Dino Dork, Darren and Miss
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Olive, Wayne, and Joaquin. Yes,
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thank you so much for being
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part of our Dino at all
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community, and we especially appreciate
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everybody who's been part of our
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community while we've been taking some
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time off. Yes. And like
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Sabrina said earlier, if you want
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to vote on these Dino duels,
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then you should join our
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patron. You can join as a
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free member to vote. It's really
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just to make sure. It's
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the easiest way we could
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come up with to do voting,
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which is well validated into
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not a lot of people submitting
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multiple responses. And you can do
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all that at patron.com slash,
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I know Dino. Of course, if
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you join one of the paid
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tiers, you get a lot
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of perks, too. It is March.
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March. Like you said, Garrett, we're
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celebrating with a friendly Dino-Dool.
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competition. And again, if that
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reminds you of a
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certain annual basketball-related event
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in the US, then so be it.
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We're starting with 16 of the sweetest
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dinosaurs. The sweet 16.
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Yes. And they represent each
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of the three periods of
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the Mesozoic. Specifically, we've broken
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them down into late Triassic
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slash early Jurassic, early Cretaceous,
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and late Cretaceous. They happen
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to be... Also, the most popular
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dinosaurs on our YouTube channel. So
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you'll probably recognize them all, some
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are more famous than others, and
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we'll announce all of them in just a
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moment. But first, we're going to go over
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how all this works. Yes. Yeah. It was
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fun putting together the top 16. We
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looked through a few different ways to
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pick the top 16 dinosaurs. One thought
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I had was we could just do
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the first 16 episodes that we recorded,
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because those are... 16 of the most popular
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dinosaurs. But then we came up
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with, what about just doing the
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16 most popular dinosaurs in our
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catalog? It's a little confusing if
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you use our regular episodes because
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that's mixed in with interviews and
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news and all sorts of stuff.
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So it's hard to tell which dinosaur the
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days were the most popular, but on
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our YouTube channel we separate them out
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individually. So I went through and pulled
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out the top 16 from there and
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it is really weird. Like I said, some
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are very recognizable. A couple
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of them, but most of them are
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not the ones I would have picked.
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Because I think what happens is we
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just have good SEO for some of
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these dinosaurs that aren't in a lot
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of other YouTube videos. So if you
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search for this dinosaur, our thing is
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the top hit. And sometimes they're really
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weird dinosaurs. So yeah, I
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had to look up some of them
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to remember which part of the Mesozoic
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they were in. picked the top four
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from I wanted to do Triassic, Jurassic,
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early Cretaceous, late Cretaceous, but there are
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so few Triassic to choose from that
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I got to three and then you
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had to go so far down the
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list to get a fourth one that
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I ended up just pulled in one
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from the early Jurassic and that's why
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we have the weird Triassic slash early
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Jurassic and then middle late Jurassic and
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then there are so many from the
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early and late Cretaceous that those are
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separate. Another way to look at it
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is we're keeping it interesting. Yeah and
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it's kind of like how tournaments go
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right there's always a couple that you
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really expect to be there and then
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there's a lot of oddballs and it's
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like wow look at them making the
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tournament the tournament good for them good
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for them. So for our Dino Duels
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competition as we're calling it, the bracket
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is now available. It's a bit on
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y slash Dino Duels brackets, or you
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can get there by going to bit
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out y slash Dino Duels rules. That's
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the rules page. I really like that,
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URL. So the brackets have to be
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completed within six days after this publishes.
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That's on March 11th, 2025. And really
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what I should say is that the
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Google form needs to be completed within
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six days after this publishes because it
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wasn't an easy way to get a
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bracket with a bunch of dinosaur names.
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to automatically select winners. So the best
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way I could come up with is
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to do it in a Google form.
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But if you try to pick the
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winners of 15 contests with a whole
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bunch of options, it's very messy. So
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what I would recommend is making the
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bracket using bit out Y slash Dino
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Dual's bracket, and then there's a link
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right in there to the Google form.
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And then you can click over to
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that and actually put in the ones
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that you decided using the bracket using
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the bracket. It's a little bit more
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than I wanted. I was trying to
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figure out a way to do it
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in one step, but I think that's
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the cleanest and easiest because I know
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everybody will have access to Google forms.
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We use that all the time, so
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I wanted to stick with that to
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make it accessible to everybody and not
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use some weird software you might not
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be able to get into. So there
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are going to be four rounds of
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the Dino duels. The first one is
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going to start with six. 16 dinosaurs
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and every one that you pick right
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will give you one point. So if
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you pick all eight of the winners
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correct, you will get eight points. That's
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going to start right after the next
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episode comes out. So it'll go March
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12th to March 14th. That's when the
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voting will be live on our patron
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because there isn't an easy way to
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decide which dinosaur would just win. There's
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no right answer. And really you can
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vote for it on any criteria you
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want. You can pick it because you
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like it the best. You could pick
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it because you think it would win
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in a fight. You could pick it
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because you think it's cooler or it
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had more interesting teeth or the fossil
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discovery was from the country or state
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that you're in. There's no rules for
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how you vote for the dinosaur you
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want to win when we have the
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polls on our patron. They're just going
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to be very short periods, just a
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couple days each, so that we have
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time to record who the winner is
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and then set up the next poll
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for the next week. Because as the
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tournament goes on, a lot of these
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dinosaurs are going to be getting eliminated
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until you finally have just the one
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winner. The one to rule them all.
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Yep. And just to round it out
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for clarity. when we're down to eight
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dinosaurs each of those that you pick
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right you'll get two points we're down
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to four dinosaurs each of those you
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pick right you'll get four points and
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when we're down to two dinosaurs in
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the championship you'll get eight points if
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you pick that one right so at
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each round level there are eight possible
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points but obviously if you pick the
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champion that's better than just picking one
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that won one of the earlier rounds
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probably familiar with that if you've ever
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filled out a bracket before so if
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you win that's the big question Why
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would you want to win? You will
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get six months of our triceratops here
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on our patron for free. I guess
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that's another good reason to sign up
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on our patron. Because if you just
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fill out the bracket and then don't
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sign up for free on the patron,
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I don't know how you're going to
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get the free triceratops here. You'll be
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well set up. Yeah. And if you're
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already a patron, you will also... get
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six months of the triceratops
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tier. I'm pretty sure you can do
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that. If not, we'll figure out a
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different prize of equal value. Yes. But
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that's the plan as of now. Unfortunately,
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since this is officially a sweepstakes,
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we can only offer it in
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the US, Canada, except Quebec, and
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the UK. I'm sorry that we can't
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offer the sweepstakes in Quebec, Australia,
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or Europe, where I know we
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have a fair number of listeners.
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I tried really hard to find
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a way to make the sweepstakes
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available everywhere that we have listeners,
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but unfortunately a lot of jurisdictions
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put up barriers that as a two-person
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team, we just can't manage to deal
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with. So, for example, in case
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you're wondering, with Quebec... I was
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really excited to see that in
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late 2023 they repealed their rules
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requiring posting a bond and registering
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with their government in order to
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do a sweepstakes there, but unfortunately
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they still require everything to be
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translated into French and we don't speak
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French so we can't comply with the
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Quebec regulations to do a sweepstakes there,
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which is a bummer. I was so
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excited I was Googling it and I
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saw that. I was like, yeah, we
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can finally add Quebec, but unfortunately we
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can't. Maybe another time. Yes. And then
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with Australia, they require the sweepstakes
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to be based in Australia. Obviously,
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we can't do that since we're
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in the US. And for Europe,
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some countries ban sweepstakes, others have
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country-specific laws that we can't feasibly
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comply with. Most of those are
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translating everything into the official
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language of that country, and
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we don't speak any languages fluently
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other than English. So, unfortunately,
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we can't do that outside
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of the UK. So, we're left
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with the US-U-K in Canada,
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except Quebec. But, even though you can't
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officially enter the contest, you
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could still fill out a
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bracket on bit.l-y-slash-dino-dules bracket
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and just see how you do. Get
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bragging rights. Exactly. So
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just a quick reminder, if you
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want to fill out your bracket
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to figure out who you think
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is going to win the whole
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championship That's the easiest way to
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do it because you go through
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the process of elimination You can
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do that at bit on ly
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slash dino duels bracket And then
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if you want to fill out
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the Google form in order to
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officially enter the contest, you can
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do that at bit l y
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slash dino duels picks We'll have
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these links in our show notes
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as well. Yes, and that They're
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linked to each other everywhere too.
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So if you go to one
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of them, you should be able
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to get to the other two
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as well. And then if you
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want the complete rules, they are
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at bit.ly slash dynamo-dules rules. I'd
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love saying that so much. And
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we will talk about the dinosaurs
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that we'll be doing in just
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a moment, but first we're going
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to take a quick break for
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May 31st. Again that's CNCC.E.D.D. So
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now onto the dinosaurs that will
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be dueling. I'll start with the
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picks for the late Triassic slash
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early Jurassic. We've got our first
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seed, Gjurisaurus, versus the fourth one,
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Eoraptor. Yeah, we're following the same
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standard protocol of the top ranked.
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team or in this case dinosaur
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versus the lowest ranked because that's
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how they usually do it in
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theory it's supposed to give the
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advantage to the top ranked one
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so you're supposed to get a
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little bit of a benefit if
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you did really well in the
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regular season when you're getting to
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the playoffs but In this case,
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it's super weird because like I
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was saying, those YouTube views, even
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if you're the most viewed thing
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in our YouTube channel, it seems
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to have little to nothing to
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do with how popular of a
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dinosaur it actually is. So it
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comes up with some interesting matchups
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that you wouldn't expect. Yes. So
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yeah, all of these dinosaurs, we
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covered in our Dinosaur of the
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Day at some point, but you
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know, we're coming up to 530
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episodes. That's a lot of dinosaur
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of the days and... I understand
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if you don't remember them all.
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I don't remember all of them.
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I'll give a brief overview here.
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Gojurisaurus was a seal of physoid
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that lived in the Triassic and
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what is now New Mexico in
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the U.S. It was our dinosaur
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of the day back in episode
15:27
165. The genus named Gojurisaurus means
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Godzilla lizard, although it may be
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a dubious genus. So why pick
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Gojurisaurus? Well. It was one of
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the largest carnivores of the Triassic.
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It was estimated to be about
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18 feet or 5.5 meters long,
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though it may have gotten even
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bigger. That's pretty big for the
15:45
Triassic. Mm-hmm. I always think of
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Gojurosaurus as tiny, like Cylophysis level
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tiny, but I guess it was
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bigger than that. It's living up
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to its name. It is. I
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guess if you're a big Godzilla
15:57
fan, that's a good choice too.
15:59
Yeah. And we've got Eoraptor, a
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Sora Potomorff that lived in the
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late Triassic and what is now Argentina.
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That was our dinosaur of the day
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in episode 60. The genus name Eoraptor
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means Don Plunderer. It's not
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a raptor, but it did have a
16:15
grasping hand, like raptors. So why
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pick Eoraptor? Well, it was one of
16:19
the earliest dinosaurs. It was
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also a fast runner. Yeah,
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Eoraptor is pretty cool. It's
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one of the most important
16:27
early dinosaur finds. It's much
16:29
earlier in the Triassic. Go
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geosaurus is like 210-ish million
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years ago, whereas Eoraptor is
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more like 230. So it's
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still technically late Triassic, but
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it's approaching middle Triassic. It's
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before the midpoint of the
16:44
Triassic, which just because of
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naming conventions, it's still late
16:48
Triassic. Is it cool dinosaur? It
16:50
is. Definitely changed things when
16:52
it was discovered. Yes. But it
16:54
is smaller, so it wouldn't win in
16:57
a fight if they had somehow ever
16:59
met. But it could maybe win in
17:01
a race, because it was so fast.
17:03
Or in a hiding competition. Yeah.
17:05
Professional height and seeking. In the
17:07
next bracket, we've got
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the second pick, Herrera-saurus
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versus the third pick.
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Hedodontosaurus. I love this combination. It's like
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two of the weirdest dinosaurs in
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the late Triassic, early Jurassic, it's
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so cool that they randomly got
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matched up together. Yeah. Now,
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Herrera-Saurus was a Soren that lived
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in the late Triassic in what is
17:29
now San Juan, Argentina. It was our
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Dinosaur the day in episode 27. The
17:33
genus name Herrera-Saurus means Herrera's Lizard.
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It's named after the local rancher
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Don Victorino Herrera, who discovered it,
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and it had this sliding joint
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in its lower jaw to help
17:44
it bite, which suggests it was
17:46
a predator. So why pick Herrera's? Well,
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it is another early dinosaur, and
17:50
it had a body shaped like
17:52
large carnivores, such as allosaurus, but
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it lived during a time when
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dinosaurs were small and not at all
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dominant. is that it's so weird
18:01
that some people don't even consider
18:03
it to be a dinosaur. It's
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very difficult to place it in
18:08
the dinosaur family tree. It's been
18:10
considered to be a basal theropodomorff,
18:12
sometimes like you said, just a
18:14
psoriscian. Other times it's outside of
18:16
that even, or outside of all
18:18
of dinosauria. And it's just a
18:21
very strange dinosaur. This is another
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very old one. It's around two
18:25
hundred and thirty million years ago.
18:27
So it's sort of like Eoraptor
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in those very early days of
18:31
the dinosaurs. Yes, when it was
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hard to pick out what's a
18:35
dinosaur. Yeah. It's right on that
18:38
gray fuzzy line of like, is
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this a dinosaur? Is it too
18:42
weird? Maybe it's not quite really
18:44
fully developed into a dinosaur yet.
18:46
And then we've got heterodontosaurus, which
18:48
was an ornithiscian that lived in
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the early Jurassic and what is
18:53
now South Africa. That was our
18:55
Dinosaur of the Day in episode
18:57
279. The genus name heterodontosaurus means
18:59
different tooth lizard. It does have
19:01
different teeth. Right, well it had
19:03
a beak, it had small incisor-like
19:05
teeth, a couple long canine like
19:08
tusks, and chisel-like cheek teeth. So
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why pick heterodontosaurus? Well. It had
19:12
the tusks, the canine-like tusks, which
19:14
might have helped it with its
19:16
food. It's also different from its
19:18
close relatives in that it doesn't
19:20
seem to have replaced its teeth
19:22
continuously, but instead replaced them sometimes.
19:25
Also known as episodically. So weird.
19:27
Yeah. Such a weird little dinosaur.
19:29
It was tiny too, but it
19:31
had those tusks on it that
19:33
just, yeah, they are different teeth.
19:35
if you put a little bit
19:37
of emphasis on it to be
19:40
like that's different. Very weird, very
19:42
weird little dinosaur. But this one
19:44
is actually in the early Jurassic,
19:46
not in the Triassic. It's the
19:48
only of the four which aren't
19:50
in the Triassic. So maybe if
19:52
you prefer a Triassic dinosaur, you're
19:54
not. not into heterodontosaurus, but if
19:57
you like a weirdo that has
19:59
tusks inexplicably for an early dinosaur,
20:01
it's a pretty good one. And
20:03
we usually like the weirdos. We
20:05
do. But between herarsaurus and heterodontosaurus,
20:07
I'm kind of bummed that they're
20:09
going up against each other because
20:12
that means one of them is
20:14
going to get eliminated because they're
20:16
both so weird and enjoyable. the
20:18
first seed megalosaurus versus the fourth
20:20
one Miragaya megalosaurus that's one of
20:22
the more well-known ones I would
20:24
say yeah the og dinosaur yeah
20:27
it was a the middle Jurassic
20:29
it lived in the middle Jurassic
20:31
and what is now England it
20:33
was our dinosaur of the day
20:35
we revisited it back in episode
20:37
482 yeah don't worry about the
20:39
first time we talked to it
20:41
you don't want to listen to
20:44
that one there's some good stuff
20:46
in there we took a different
20:48
angle when we revisited it The
20:50
genus name means great lizard. It
20:52
was thought to be a giant
20:54
amphibious lizard up to 70 feet
20:56
long when it was first described,
20:59
but more recent estimates have it
21:01
closer to 20 feet or 6
21:03
meters long. I mean, they didn't
21:05
have a lot of fossils to
21:07
go with, and it being the
21:09
first ever dinosaur, and before the
21:11
name dinosaur was even coined, they
21:14
didn't have a lot to work
21:16
with, so you can forgive them
21:18
being a little off the mark.
21:20
Yes. In terms of their total
21:22
body constructions. You're getting into my
21:24
why pick megalisaurus. Oh sorry. Because,
21:26
well, not only is it the
21:28
first non-avian dinosaur named, it's one
21:31
of the three original dinosaurs and
21:33
dinosauria. It was named in 1824
21:35
and dinosauria, and dinosauria, and dinosauria,
21:37
it wasn't a term until 1842,
21:39
but it was probably the first
21:41
dinosaur fossils ever described, at the
21:43
way we described fossils today. There
21:46
was a legbone described in the
21:48
late 1600s, though, at the time,
21:50
people thought it came from a
21:52
large elephant or a giant human.
21:54
Scrotum-humanum. Well, we get into that
21:56
when the dinosaur of the day
21:58
because it's... Turns out it's a
22:01
little more nuanced than we had
22:03
previously thought. I forgot the nuances, so I
22:05
have to go back and listen to it.
22:07
Then we've got Miragaya. That's a
22:09
stegosaur that lived in the late Jurassic
22:11
and what is now Portugal. That was
22:14
our dinosaur of the day in episode
22:16
504. We also revisited it because new
22:18
research came out. The genus named Miragaya
22:20
means wonderful goddess of the earth,
22:23
which is a pretty cool name. It is a good
22:25
one. and being a stegosaur it had
22:27
large spines over most or the
22:29
whole of its tail. So why pick
22:31
Miragaya? Well it had the longest
22:33
known neck of any stegosaur with
22:36
at least 17 neck vertebrae which
22:38
is more neckbones than many sore
22:40
pods. It also probably used its
22:43
tail as defense to strike
22:45
at predators with high speed. Yeah
22:47
one really cool thing about Miragaya
22:49
is it has crazy long tail
22:51
spikes. There is a potential
22:54
species named Miragaya longus,
22:56
it is a very
22:58
epic thagamizer, and I
23:00
like how this battle
23:02
is a stegosaur versus
23:04
a theropod. Usually we're
23:06
talking about stegosaurus and
23:09
allosaurus. That's what you might
23:11
expect in a battle in the
23:13
middle Jurassic, middle-de-late Jurassic, but instead
23:15
what we have is Miragaya versus
23:18
Megalosaurus. Not what you would think
23:20
would be the top two, but
23:23
it's basically the same thing. It's
23:25
an allosaurus type thing versus a
23:27
stegosaur. So I guess if you were
23:30
going to pick allosaurus in that
23:32
battle or you're going to speak
23:34
stegosaurus, you can go with your
23:37
relevant... Dinosaur there. I think
23:39
that's a pretty fun match up. It
23:41
is a good one. They didn't live
23:43
at the same time though because megalosaurus
23:46
was middle Jurassic, so it was about
23:48
166 million years ago, whereas Miragaya
23:50
was late Jurassic, probably more like
23:52
150 million years ago. So there
23:55
was pretty big time gap in
23:57
between the two. So unlike Allosaurus
23:59
and... Stegosaurus, which actually did
24:02
fight each other. We've got holes
24:04
in allosaurus bones that look like
24:06
a stegosaurus, poked right through it.
24:09
Yeah, still a good match up.
24:11
Yes. And then the other match
24:13
up, we've got the second seed,
24:15
Yangtuanosaurus, versus the third one, giraffe
24:18
titan. Yangtuanosaurus was a metriacanthosaurid theropod
24:20
theropod, that lived in the middle
24:22
to late Jurassic, Jurassic, China. It
24:25
was our dinosaur of the day
24:27
in episode, episode 2010, 2010. It's
24:29
very similar to allosaurus in size
24:32
and appearance. Spoilers, allosaurus isn't one
24:34
of the picks. So if you
24:36
like allosaurus, maybe Yangtuanosaurus is your
24:39
pick. This is the one I
24:41
saw on the list and I
24:43
was like Yangtuanosaurus. That one made
24:45
the top 16, the top four
24:48
in the late Jurassicus. Diploticus allosaurus,
24:50
but we've got yangtuanosaurus. We've also
24:52
got giraffe titan, that's similar to
24:55
brachisaurus, but first, why pick yangtuanosaurus,
24:57
other than it being like an
24:59
allosaurus? What was the biggest, badest
25:02
predator in its habitat? It had
25:04
this giant head with powerful jaws
25:06
full of large serrated teeth, and
25:08
it was estimated to be up
25:11
to 36 feet or 11 meters
25:13
long. That's on the larger size
25:15
of estimates. I mean it's a
25:18
cool dinosaur and the head alone
25:20
is probably over a meter approaching
25:22
four feet long and body mass
25:25
of roughly four tons maybe. It's
25:27
a big individual right so I
25:29
can see why people like it.
25:32
It is like an extra large
25:34
allosaurus, very cool. Just in terms
25:36
of name recognition, I did not,
25:38
it was a very surprising one.
25:41
And I didn't remember much about
25:43
Yangtuanasaurus until I was reading about
25:45
it again. Well, you have to
25:48
do is look at our notes.
25:50
Yeah. Since we covered it. Yeah,
25:52
back in episode 210. 10, six
25:55
years ago. So it's going up
25:57
against giraffe titan. That was a
25:59
sore pod that lived in the
26:02
late Jurassic and what is now
26:04
Tanzania. That was our dinosaur of
26:06
the day in episode 153. The
26:08
genus named giraffe titan means giant
26:11
giraffe. And like I mentioned, it's
26:13
closely related to brachiasaurus. Both are
26:15
depicted as keeping their heads held
26:18
high in a giraffe-like way, one
26:20
might say. So why pick giraffe
26:22
a titan? Well, it's a huge
26:25
dinosaur and it looked a little
26:27
like a giraffe. That's pretty cool.
26:29
It's estimated to be up to
26:32
82 feet or 25 meters long
26:34
and have a shoulder height of
26:36
22 feet or 6.8 meters and
26:38
it had long four limbs or
26:41
the front legs and a long
26:43
neck. Yep. So just like how
26:45
there is no allosaurus. If you
26:48
like allosaurus, you might want to
26:50
vote for Yangtuanosaurus. But if you
26:52
like brachiosaurus. you might want to
26:55
vote for a giraffeine, or really
26:57
if you like soripods in general,
26:59
because there are very few soripods
27:02
in this list. And I think
27:04
there might be no ancylaurs, which
27:06
is a bummer, but at least
27:08
you got your soripod or two.
27:11
Yeah, there are at least a
27:13
couple, which brings me to the
27:15
next section. Time period. Time period.
27:18
Thank you. Early Cretaceous. So we've
27:20
got the first pick. Nigersaurus versus
27:22
the fourth pick Dinonicus, speaking of
27:25
Soripods. So Nigersaurus was a Rebecca
27:27
Sorid soripod that lived in the
27:29
Cretaceous and was now Niger. It
27:31
was our dinosaur of the day
27:34
back in episode 246 and the
27:36
genus named Nigersaurus means Niger reptile.
27:38
It was a small soripod similar
27:41
in size to an elephant today.
27:43
It's estimated to be about 30
27:45
feet or 9 meters long and
27:48
way over 2 to 4.4 tons
27:50
or... 1.9 to 4 metric tons.
27:52
Why pick Nigerisaurus? Well, it's really
27:55
cool. It had this wide snout
27:57
full of more than 500 teeth.
27:59
really flat on the front too.
28:01
Yeah, it replaces teeth also
28:04
about every 14 days. And it's
28:06
been described as a mezzozoic
28:08
cow. Yeah, it's fantastic. It
28:10
is a fantastic animal. The
28:13
entire group of those rebaki
28:15
sorets, many of which have
28:17
those flat fronts to their mouths,
28:19
are so enjoyable to look at.
28:22
Something I had no idea existed
28:24
when I was a kid. For
28:26
some reason I always missed those.
28:28
in the drawings. I mean I
28:31
guess Nigerisaurus wasn't discovered when I
28:33
was a kid that might have been part
28:35
of the problem. Or you weren't paying
28:37
enough attention to the soripods. Yeah
28:39
that could also be the case.
28:41
It's also kind of cool because Nigerisaurus
28:44
is a diploticoid and giraffe
28:46
tighten is a macronarian. So
28:48
we've got two of the
28:50
major groups of soripods in
28:52
contention. So if they meet again
28:54
later you can pick your favorite
28:56
clade of soripod. That's true. Then
28:58
we've got Dinonicus, which is
29:00
a dromaeosaur Therapod, a raptor that
29:02
lived in the early Cretaceous in what
29:04
is now the US, and that was
29:07
our dinosaur of the day in
29:09
episode 500, where we revisited it, because
29:11
the episode was all about raptors.
29:13
The genus named Dinonicus means terrible
29:15
claw. It was probably covered in
29:18
feathers, and it had the large
29:20
sickle clawed second toes for cutting
29:22
and slashing. Why might you pick
29:24
Dinonicus? Well, it's the dinosaur that
29:27
changed the way paleontologists thought about
29:29
dinosaurs, and it kicked off the
29:31
dinosaur renaissance, where people started thinking
29:33
of dinosaurs as more active and
29:35
agile rather than sluggish and tail-dragging.
29:38
It also possibly pinned down its prey and
29:40
then bit into it. Yeah, Dinonicus is
29:42
super cool. This is not one that I
29:44
was surprised was on the list. Yeah. I
29:46
kind of thought Velasaraptor might have made the
29:48
cut. But didn't. But Dinonicus is close
29:51
and I could see how you
29:53
probably, or the average person searching
29:55
on YouTube might already think they
29:57
know everything they need to know
29:59
about philosophy. but you might hear
30:01
about Dinonicus being an important dinosaur
30:03
that's like Velociraptor want to learn
30:06
more about it so I could
30:08
see how that one made the
30:10
the top 16. Exactly. It's a
30:13
cool dinosaur. Yes. In the next
30:15
bracket we've got the second seed
30:17
ichtheovinator, depending how you... One to
30:19
pronounce it, was a spinosaur that
30:22
lived in the early Cretaceous and
30:24
what is now Laos. It was
30:26
our dinosaur of the day in
30:29
episode 304. The genus name Ixiovenitor
30:31
means fish hunter. And like its
30:33
relatives, other spinosors, it had the
30:35
tall neural spines that made a
30:38
sail on its back. Why pick
30:40
Ixiovenitor? Because it's a Spinosor. And
30:42
it's the only Spinosor in the
30:45
list. Yeah, it had a long
30:47
narrow snout, teeth for going after
30:49
fish, and strong arms with large
30:52
thumbclaws. Yeah, we've done Spinosaurus twice,
30:54
and neither of those videos were
30:56
in the top 16. But Iktheovenitor
30:58
was not the one I would
31:01
have expected of the Spinosaurus. I
31:03
think my most likely would have
31:05
been Spinosaurus. After that, I think
31:08
maybe I would have guessed. Sucomymimus,
31:10
maybe irritator. Baryonics. Baryonics, ichtovenitor. Not
31:12
what I was expecting. But it's
31:14
a good name for a Spino-sorid,
31:17
right? It is. Basically, fish hunter.
31:19
This is a solid description of
31:21
what we think Spino-saurus did. Whether
31:24
it was swimming through the water
31:26
in order to get those fish
31:28
or just dunking its head in,
31:31
either way we know based on
31:33
the fish remains that are inside
31:35
some of these gut contents. it
31:37
was in fact a fish hunter.
31:40
Yes, gut contents of spino-sorids. Yes,
31:42
yeah, yeah, yeah, not necessarily ichto-venitor.
31:44
Yes. I think the closest thing
31:47
we have to direct evidence of
31:49
ichto-venitor, specifically eating fish, is that
31:51
there were just rafin fish in
31:53
the area where it was fossilized.
31:56
Better evidence is that its relatives,
31:58
other spinosaurs, were eating fish. Yes.
32:00
And then we've got Hipsolafodon. That
32:03
was a neo-Ornithiscian that lived in
32:05
the early Cretaceous and what's now
32:07
England. It was our dinosaur of
32:10
the day in episode 28. That
32:12
goes way back. The genus name
32:14
Hipsolafodon means high-crested tooth. It was
32:16
relatively small, estimated to be about
32:19
seven and a half feet or
32:21
2.3 meters long, and the fossils
32:23
were first found also way back
32:26
in 1849. So why pick Hipsolophodon?
32:28
Well, so many specimens have been
32:30
found, like maybe over a hundred.
32:32
So we know a lot about
32:35
this dinosaur. Also it had these
32:37
thin, pointy bones over the top
32:39
half of its eyes to give
32:42
it shade, which kind of made
32:44
it look fierce, at least in
32:46
skeletal form. And I guess some
32:49
people originally thought it was armored
32:51
and lived in trees. That's kind
32:53
of fun. Yeah. Hipsalafidon is one
32:55
that I often think of as
32:58
being an earlier dinosaur than it
33:00
actually was because it was in
33:02
the early Cretaceous but for some
33:05
reason it's small body and just
33:07
sort of weird vibes makes me
33:09
think triassic early Jurassic weird vibes.
33:11
I don't have a lot of
33:14
hope for Hipsalafidon winning against Ick
33:16
the Oventer. You never know. It
33:18
could happen. Made it. We weren't
33:21
expecting that. That's true. All right,
33:23
and last we've got the late
33:25
Cretaceous picks, starting with the first
33:28
seed, Tyrannosaurus versus the fourth one,
33:30
Albertosaurus. Yeah, Tyrannosaurus, a number one
33:32
seed. This was the least surprising
33:34
thing in the data set for
33:37
sure. And then we've got it
33:39
against another Tyrannosaurid. I kind of
33:41
like that. Because then it's not
33:44
just going to be like Tyrannosaurids
33:46
dominating later down the bracket. You
33:48
got to pick your Tyrannosaurid right
33:51
off the gate. Yes. So Tyrannosaurus
33:53
was a Tyrannosaurid theropod. It lived
33:55
in the late Cretaceous and what
33:57
is now. at Western North America.
34:00
It was our Dinosaur of the
34:02
Day in episode 200. We also
34:04
revisited that one. Well, that was
34:06
the revisited one. It was our first
34:08
episode as well. Oh, yes. And then we learned
34:10
a lot more, so we felt like it needed
34:13
to be revisited. Yep. The genus
34:15
named Tyrannosaurus means tyrant lizard.
34:17
It had relatively short arms,
34:19
but it was still ridiculously strong and
34:21
fierce. Yes, I like that you said
34:23
relatively short arms, because on an absolute
34:25
scale, it's arms were more like our
34:27
like our like our like our leg.
34:29
At least in terms of strength, they
34:32
might have been a little bit smaller,
34:34
but not that would be of arms,
34:36
not like carnivorous. Yeah. Well, why
34:38
pick Tyrannosaurus? I don't know
34:40
if I even need to give
34:42
reasons, but it was the all-time
34:44
apex predator of its time. It
34:46
probably would be the apex predator
34:48
in many different times, if it
34:50
was a time traveler. And it had
34:53
such a strong bite for us, it could
34:55
crush bone. Indeed. It's also the...
34:57
Second most valuable fossil after stegosaurus.
34:59
Oh yes. It's funny that that
35:02
has changed. It is funny. Stegosaurus
35:04
didn't make the list, so maybe
35:06
it's getting the last laugh in
35:08
this competition. Maybe. It's lucky it
35:10
doesn't have to go up against
35:13
the real dominant dinosaur. Just
35:15
depends what your criteria
35:17
is. Then we've got Albertosaurus.
35:19
It was a tyrannosaurid theropod that
35:21
lived in the late Cretaceous
35:23
in what is now Alberta
35:26
Canada. It was our Dinosaur
35:28
of the Day in episode 86. The
35:30
genus name Albertosaurus means Alberta
35:32
Lizard. And the fossils were first
35:34
found in 1884 by Joseph Burr
35:37
Tyrol who has a museum named
35:39
after him in Alberta. Perhaps you've
35:41
heard of it. The Tyrol Tyrol
35:43
Museum. Oh yes, thank you. So
35:45
why pick Albertosaurus? Well, it was
35:47
also an apex predator in its habitat
35:50
and could crush bone. More than 30 individuals
35:52
have been found, so scientists know it pretty
35:54
well, and it had a large head with
35:56
a lot of sharp teeth and short arms
35:58
with two fingers on each hand. So not
36:00
too, too different from Tyrannosaurus. Another
36:02
good reason to vote for it
36:04
is if you're Canadian, because it's
36:06
sort of like the Canadian T-Rex.
36:09
There we go. But a reason
36:11
to vote against it is if
36:13
you're a fan of Latin, because
36:15
why didn't they name it Alberta
36:17
Sora? That would have been a
36:19
much better name. Alberta. Alberta. They
36:21
made it Alberto Saurus. Oh, I
36:23
see. It always annoys me. Why
36:25
isn't it Alberta Sora? some guessing
36:28
I know what your pick would
36:30
be. I don't know. I like
36:32
an underdog. Although in general with
36:34
the bracket you want to vote
36:36
for the one that you think
36:38
is going to win, not the
36:40
one that you want to win,
36:42
and then when we get around
36:45
to the voting on Patreon, that's
36:47
when you vote for the one
36:49
you want to win. I already
36:51
filled out my bracket by the
36:53
way. Okay. actually do it so
36:55
that I could see if I
36:57
would win. See if you get
36:59
bragging rights? I mean, yeah, it
37:01
would only be bragging rights because
37:04
obviously I can't win, but I
37:06
want to see how I do.
37:08
All right, in the second bracket
37:10
for the late Cretaceous, we've got
37:12
the second seed, Styrakisaurus versus the
37:14
third one, Cheetipati. Styrachos was a
37:16
ceratopsian that lived in the late
37:18
Cretaceous in what is now North
37:21
America. It was our Dinosaur of
37:23
the Day in episode 42, and
37:25
the genus name means spiked lizard.
37:27
Maybe it lived in herds, based
37:29
on specimens being found in bonebeds.
37:31
So why pick Styrachosos? Well, it's
37:33
got a really cool frill. It
37:35
had four to six long spikes
37:38
that extended from its neck frill,
37:40
and it had cheekhorns in addition
37:42
to a long nose horn that
37:44
may have been up to two
37:46
feet or 60 centimeters long. Yeah,
37:48
seriously long nasal horn. Yeah, it's
37:50
possible that the large frill and
37:52
its skull helped it to regulate
37:54
its body temperature. No matter what
37:57
it did, it looked really cool
37:59
doing it. I think Styrachosos is
38:01
one of the coolest dinosaurs ever,
38:03
which is why... It was our
38:05
first ever patch that we did
38:07
for the Dine Out Alls because
38:09
it's so cool with all those
38:11
spikes sticking out of its head.
38:14
I think we also made a
38:16
coaster of it at one point.
38:18
I love Styrachos. Any chance we
38:20
have to draw Styrachos in some
38:22
way? It's such a cool head.
38:24
It's just amazing. Since Dyrachososos was
38:26
found way back in the early
38:28
1900s, there have been other cool-looking
38:30
ceratopsians on them. But to me,
38:33
Storacosos is always like the original
38:35
really cool frill ornamentation. And it's
38:37
sort of like the prototypical difference
38:39
from triceratops, whereas triceratops is a
38:41
very plain frill, which is much
38:43
bigger, and then the big brow
38:45
horns and the small nose horn,
38:47
Storacos is exact opposite in every
38:50
way. It's got a smaller but
38:52
way more decorated frill. It's got
38:54
like nothing above its eyes, but
38:56
this huge nosehorn. It's just, the
38:58
two of them combined to make
39:00
to make a really cool. demonstration
39:02
of how varied ceratopsians could be?
39:04
Yes. I'm guessing that was your
39:07
pick. I don't even remember. Well
39:09
it's going up against Cheetipati which
39:11
was an overraptured theropod that lived
39:13
in the late Cretaceous and what
39:15
is now Mongolia. It was our
39:17
dinosaur of the day in episode
39:19
81. The genus name Cheetipati means
39:21
funeral pyre lord and it had
39:23
a tall crest on its head
39:26
similar to a cassowary and was
39:28
probably covered in feathers. So why
39:30
pick Cheetipati? Well, it's really cool
39:32
because its discovery helps scientists understand
39:34
that overraptids weren't egg thieves, but
39:36
they actually cared for their young.
39:38
And one Cheetipati embryo was found
39:40
inside an egg. It finally righted
39:43
the wrong, that was that overrafter
39:45
name of egg thief. It's one
39:47
of the best known overraftereds too,
39:49
and some of been found brooding
39:51
on top of its nests. That's...
39:53
How it was able to write
39:55
that wrong. And one specimen even
39:57
has the nickname Big Mama. Yeah,
39:59
that was a... the American Museum
40:02
of Natural History. Very cool specimen.
40:04
I think if you're going by
40:06
quality of specimen, if that's
40:08
your criteria in your voting,
40:10
Cheetipati definitely wins.
40:12
It doesn't hurt that it was found
40:14
in Mongolia in that pretty
40:16
soft sandstone that seems to have
40:18
miraculous preservation so much of the
40:20
time and so easy to remove
40:22
and see all those bones and
40:24
eggs in this case. Yes. Very
40:26
cool dinosaur. So those are the
40:29
Sweet 16. Make your picks and
40:31
vote. And we'll be announcing
40:33
the winners moving on in
40:35
our next episode. We won't
40:37
go through this whole list
40:40
every time. We'll just announce
40:42
the winners. Yeah. Because I'm
40:44
sure we'll have a ton of
40:46
news to talk about. Oh, yes.
40:49
But yeah, if you want to
40:51
enter the contest, make sure you
40:53
get over to bit.l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-s bracket. And
40:56
if you want the complete rules,
40:58
bit on y slash dinodules rules.
41:00
And then they all they'll link to
41:02
each other to it. They're in the
41:04
show notes and everything. Yes.
41:07
Dinodules rules is probably the
41:09
easiest one to remember. Yep. So you
41:11
can go there and find the others.
41:13
Oh, good luck. We'll get to our
41:15
dinosaur of the day in just a moment.
41:18
But first we're going to take a
41:20
quick break for our sponsors. And
41:24
now on to our Dinosaur of the
41:27
Day, Kamnuria, which was a request from
41:29
Tyrant King via our patron and discord,
41:31
so thanks. It was a basal
41:33
Aguinodontian that lived in the late
41:36
Jurassic and what is now Oxfordshire
41:38
United Kingdom, found in the Kimrig clay
41:40
formation. In Aguinodons, they started
41:43
around the middle Jurassic and
41:45
lived until the end of the
41:47
Cretaceous. There's been some debate over
41:49
whether or not Kamnuria is
41:51
Camposaurus. Another dinosaur that looks
41:53
similar to campedosaurs was Yute Don,
41:55
our dinosaur of the day in
41:58
episode 521, but is now considered... to
42:00
be a species of Camposaurus, depending
42:02
on who you ask. Kamnuria was
42:04
small and walked on two legs.
42:07
It had shorter arms, a long
42:09
tail, and a long-ish head. The
42:11
holotype includes a partial skull and
42:13
skeleton, and it had a slender
42:16
build. It was about 11.4 feet,
42:18
or 3.5 meters long. The holotype,
42:20
though, is probably a juvenile based
42:22
on lack of fusion in the
42:25
vertebra and ribs. bones are fused
42:27
and that's why the holotypes thought
42:29
to be a juvenile. Even though
42:31
the specimen is a juvenile it
42:34
doesn't affect it being classified as
42:36
a basal agwadot because the character
42:38
used in ornithopod phylogenies aren't really
42:40
influenced by changes in their growth.
42:43
That sounds like somebody arguing for
42:45
it being its own genus token.
42:47
Could be, but for now it's
42:49
considered a basal agwadadot. It was
42:52
well preserved, there's not much crushing
42:54
or distortion. And it was unique
42:56
with features such as a prominent
42:58
ridge on the shoulder bone and
43:01
an oval muscle scar on its
43:03
armbone. It also had robust feet.
43:05
The fossils were found at Cumbnerhurst,
43:07
a hill near Cumbner, Oxfordshire, in
43:10
the UK. It was found in
43:12
1879. Whoa. Yeah. They were found
43:14
while the area was being excavated
43:16
for a tramway. They first ended
43:19
up in a dump heap, but
43:21
then were later collected and shown
43:23
to George Rolliston. An anatamus from
43:25
Oxford University. He showed them to
43:28
Joseph Prestwich in 1879, who said
43:30
that they were a new species
43:32
of Aguanodon, but didn't give it
43:34
a species name. Then in 1880,
43:37
Prestwich published an article on the
43:39
stratigraphy of where the fossils were
43:41
found, and later that year, John
43:43
Hulk named the fossils Aguanodon Prestwichii,
43:46
in honor of Preswich. In the
43:48
first description, he wrote, quote, the
43:50
skull is wanting, except a small
43:52
fragment. So for a tiny piece.
43:55
Yeah. And in 1880, Hulk wrote
43:57
that its quote, head was lizard-like
43:59
with large eyes and cap Nostrils.
44:01
He also wrote, quote, unfortunately as
44:04
too frequently happens, the removal of
44:06
the fossils by the unskillful hands
44:08
of day laborers has occasioned much
44:10
damage and many losses. The bones
44:13
had already been much crushed by
44:15
the pressure of the beds, but
44:17
many of the fractures are plainly
44:19
quite recent. Yeah, that happens a
44:22
lot when something's getting excavated, not
44:24
for paleontology purposes. Yeah. And then
44:26
you notice it later. But it
44:28
wouldn't have been found if that
44:31
tramway wasn't being built. Yeah. Probably.
44:33
In 1888, Harry Sealy renamed those
44:35
fossils as Comnuria press witch-eye. So
44:37
it got a separate genus. Yes.
44:40
And just the one eye at
44:42
the end. Oh, interesting. The genus
44:44
name, Comnuria, is after Comnuria, the
44:46
village where it was found. But
44:49
then in 1889, Richard Leidacher said
44:51
that it was camped a source,
44:53
pressed witchy-eye. Which many scientists over
44:55
the years agreed with. Then it
44:58
was back to possibly being Comnuria
45:00
in 2008. by Nation Martel. And
45:02
then McDonald in 2011 said it
45:04
was Kamenaria, and that was reaffirmed
45:07
in 2020 by Barrett and Wils.
45:09
Susanna Maidman and others in 2023
45:11
redescribed Kamen. And they found it
45:13
to be distinct from Camposaurus and
45:16
valid, with two unique features in
45:18
the shoulder. There's not many late
45:20
Jurassic ornithopods from Europe that are
45:22
known. There's only Calavasaurus, based on
45:25
an isolated femur or thigh bone
45:27
found in the UK. There's also
45:29
Eostraisaurus and Draconics from Portugal and
45:31
then also Cemnaria. From the Kimmerage
45:34
clay formation of the UK there's
45:36
only four valid dinosaurs. They include
45:38
of course Cemnaria, but also the
45:40
Stegosaur dissenturus, the titanosaura form, Duryatitan,
45:43
and the Tyrannosauroid jurotyrant. The hollow
45:45
type of Cemnaria includes an incomplete
45:47
skull, including a partial brain case.
45:49
vertebrae from the neck back and
45:52
tail ribs Part of an arm,
45:54
part of the hips, parts of
45:56
the legs, and parts of the
45:58
feet in a hand. But we
46:01
do need more fossils to better
46:03
understand this dinosaur. A head might
46:05
help. Yeah, a more complete one.
46:07
Other animals that lived around the
46:10
same time and place include soripods,
46:12
theropods, sea turtles, and terrors. Watch
46:14
out sea turtles. There's soripods of
46:16
foot. They're fine. They were fine.
46:19
And our fun fact for this
46:21
Dinodules competition episode is that John
46:23
Wooden is the most successful coach
46:25
in the history of college basketball
46:27
and he guided UCLA to 10
46:30
national championships, but one of his
46:32
streaks was broken by a dinosaur.
46:34
I feel like you did this
46:36
one for your dad, who's a
46:39
UCLA basketball fan. He did this
46:41
one because it's the third month
46:43
of the year and we're doing
46:45
a Dinodules competition. Which may have
46:48
some resemblance to something else that
46:50
happens. Yes. Specifically, that dinosaur was
46:52
the Calgary Dinos, which were then
46:54
known as the University of Calgary
46:57
Dinosaurs. So UCLA won in 1964,
46:59
1965, and then they won again
47:01
from 1967 every year through 1975.
47:03
A lot of years in a
47:06
row. Yes, but the Calgary Dinos
47:08
won in 1966. Broke up the
47:10
streak. Yes. Oh, as a side
47:12
note, Wooden had the nickname The
47:15
Wizard of Westwood, though apparently he
47:17
didn't like that nickname. And he
47:19
was renowned for his coaching and
47:21
inspirational messages. He's known for his
47:24
pyramid of success, as his philosophical
47:26
building blocks for succeeding at basketball
47:28
and life, and he's won many
47:30
awards, and he had a long
47:33
life and career. He died at
47:35
age 99 in 2010. But back
47:37
to the Calgary Dinos, because we're
47:39
not a basketball show. So we're
47:42
going to talk about this basketball
47:44
team. Well, we're talking about the
47:46
Dinos that happened to be a
47:48
team in 1964. Two years before
47:51
the University of Calgary officially split
47:53
from the University of Alberta, they
47:55
adopted the dinosaur mascot to honor
47:57
all the paleontological sites in the
48:00
area. And their first iteration was
48:02
this bipedal lizard-like creature, which has
48:04
changed over the years. It's good
48:06
to hear. Yeah. So in the
48:09
1960s, it walked on two legs,
48:11
it had this yellow belly, and
48:13
the rest was red. It looked
48:15
to me kind of like Pete
48:18
the Dragon, but... No wings or
48:20
hair and smaller more snake-like head.
48:22
I don't really know Pete the
48:24
Dragon. Is that a kids book?
48:27
I know it from the Disney
48:29
movie, but I don't know if
48:31
that's the original source. Okay. But
48:33
that's the one you're talking about.
48:36
Disney movie Pete the Dragon? Yeah.
48:38
Okay. And then in the 1970s,
48:40
the Calgary Dino looked more fearsome.
48:42
It still watched on two eggs,
48:45
but it had a lizard-like tongue
48:47
in a very long dragging tail.
48:49
Then in the 1980, they made
48:51
it look much friendlier. It got
48:54
more plump. It was white but
48:56
wore red and carried a red
48:58
flag. It was a bit Barney-like.
49:00
It had four fingers on each
49:03
hand, and it got a name,
49:05
Dexter. And then from 1998 to
49:07
2013, it looked more like a
49:09
Jurassic Park Velociraptor. It was fierce.
49:12
The mouth was full of sharp
49:14
teeth, and it was back to
49:16
red. That's not too surprising. In
49:18
the 90s, they would make it
49:21
more raptor-like. I would say it's
49:23
a little bit more cartoonish, but
49:25
also more accurate. The teeth are
49:27
more accurate. It clearly has two
49:30
fingers. So overall, just more scientifically
49:32
accurate, which I know that they
49:34
put a lot of effort into.
49:36
So they made it like a
49:39
T-Rex? I think it was always
49:41
meant to be like a tyrannosaur.
49:43
Oh, really? Yeah. Because those other
49:45
descriptions did not sound like D-Rex.
49:48
No. But yeah, it's red with
49:50
the yellow belly. Oh, and the
49:52
present-day masca has a new name
49:54
called Rexosaurus. So there you go
49:57
to answer your question. to Rannosaurus
49:59
and Rex, I guess they needed
50:01
it to be unique. I'm surprised
50:03
they weren't going for Albertisaurus. Yeah,
50:06
that would have been a smart
50:08
call. Maybe it's because they're not
50:10
the University of Alberta. Oh, maybe.
50:12
Although it's Albertosaurus and Albertosaurus. Right,
50:15
as you were saying. Not the
50:17
University of Alberto. Yes. Well, anyway,
50:19
the school has a saying, which
50:21
I like. It's that once a
50:24
dino, always a dino. That is
50:26
good. Taking it back, because a
50:28
lot of people don't want to
50:30
be called a dinosaur, because sometimes
50:33
that means like you're outdated. Mm-hmm.
50:35
Not in our world. They're embracing
50:37
it too. Yes. So that wraps
50:39
up. This episode of I-no-dino. Thank
50:42
you for listening. Stay tuned in
50:44
our next episode. We will be
50:46
back. We'll probably have some new
50:48
dinosaurs to talk about. And of
50:51
course we'll be keeping keeping up
50:53
with the dino-up with the dino-dules.
50:55
Which, again, if you want to
50:57
make your picks, head over to
51:00
bit.ly slash Dynodules' picks. Or just
51:02
go to bit.ly slash Dynodules' rules.
51:04
Yes, that too. And the top
51:06
of that will have links to
51:09
the other places you might want
51:11
to go. Thanks again, and until
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