Embodied AI with Giuseppe Paolo and Jonas Gonzalez

Embodied AI with Giuseppe Paolo and Jonas Gonzalez

Released Monday, 24th March 2025
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Embodied AI with Giuseppe Paolo and Jonas Gonzalez

Embodied AI with Giuseppe Paolo and Jonas Gonzalez

Embodied AI with Giuseppe Paolo and Jonas Gonzalez

Embodied AI with Giuseppe Paolo and Jonas Gonzalez

Monday, 24th March 2025
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Meet my two wonderful colleagues with whom we wrote a position paper last year "A Call for Embodied AI". We talk about the limits of the current "internet AI" paradigm. We agree that singularity, if even a thing, is very far, LLMs will not lead there, but that social media AI is already an embodied AI that is seamlessly rewiring us.


Paper: https://proceedings.mlr.press/v235/paolo24a.html


Related episodes:


Yogi Jaeger: https://youtu.be/5UJ4y2L2qpk

Anna Riedl: https://youtu.be/w2ZiSWZNQsg

Anna Ciaunica: https://youtu.be/x1QHwhlCn-8

Alexander Ororbia: https://youtu.be/N83vBfz7_BI

Laura Desire di Paolo: https://youtu.be/9txUwVtAOBk


00:00:00 Intro.

00:02:54 Why are we interested in embodied AI? Robotics and philosophy.

00:12:10 The ingredients of embodied AI.

00:15:30 Affordances. Seeing the world as a set of meanings rather than a set of objects. Who is setting the goals?

00:28:29 Karl Friston's Free Energy Principle and Active Inference. Open and closed worlds. The hardware challenge. Filtering and relevance realization. Jaeger's non-computationality argument.

00:39:36 Lecun's JEPA and our criticism: representation is not objective, it is transjective. Babies learn interactively. The importance of love (binding) and self-sacrifice. Levin's TAME. Multi-agent emergence.

00:52:23 AGI. What do we want from AGI to be? Life? Slaves? Asimov's I, Robot, and the impossibility of propositional alignment.

01:01:50 The issue with optimization: timescale. Levin's cognitive cones. The only answer is love.

01:07:44 Social media AI. The Algorithm, feed, companies, advertisement. The subconscious of internet. The danger. How are they embodied? They are spirits. I want access to the Algorithm at an intermediate level.


I, scientist blog: https://balazskegl.substack.com

Twitter: https://twitter.com/balazskegl

Artwork: DALL-E

Music: Bea Palya https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBDp3qcFZdU1yoWIRpMSaZw

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