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-I -F -E -M -D .com. Connor Eats Pants,

1:13

the beloved streamer who's recently found success

1:15

hosting surreal interviews with notorious guests

1:18

like the Tiger King. All right, Joe,

1:20

so how are you doing today,

1:22

man? It's prison. That's a fair answer.

1:24

The Costco guys. Do you think

1:26

the science is there for a triple

1:28

chunk chocolate cookie? A triple

1:30

chunk chocolate cookie! And

1:33

even disgraced former congressman George Santos, all

1:35

while playing Fortnite. Why do you need

1:37

an AR -15? I mean, aren't you

1:39

using make -believe AR -15 in your game?

1:41

Yeah, it's a video game. I get

1:43

that. Who is the person behind the

1:46

Chao profile picture and did he really

1:48

interview Elon Musk? I think the rock

1:50

might be fucking with your brain. What?

1:52

I spent a day with Connor to

1:55

find out. Hello, Connor eats pants. I'm

1:57

just gonna imagine that's your real name.

1:59

It is, yeah, full name. Did people comment

2:01

on your name? Like, what the fuck is that?

2:03

The name Connor E. Pants. Off -putting is shit, but

2:05

totally easy to remember. Yeah, the worst part about

2:07

it is, like, people ask, like, what's your favorite

2:09

pants to eat? Or, like, why do you eat

2:11

pants? And, like, the problem with it is, like,

2:13

there's not a funny answer. There's no, like, oh,

2:15

I eat denim. Like, it's not really that funny.

2:17

So that ruins my entire interview. That's really what

2:19

about. Oh, it came from my carly. That's the

2:21

name, because, like... tell the teacher, Mr. Howard, that

2:23

he eats pants. And that was sort

2:25

of, I was like, I'll just do that. I

2:28

think it works perfectly because now you

2:30

have to message people. to be on

2:32

your new show, Fortnite Friday, under the

2:34

username, ConorEatsPants. They probably get a little

2:37

overwhelmed, a little confused. Yeah, you interview

2:39

all these infamous guests, like Costco guys.

2:41

You had Joe Exotic, the Tiger King,

2:43

literally from prison. You had George Santos,

2:45

former New York congressman. You had Adrian

2:47

Ditman. Yes. Allegedly Elon Musk. Was it

2:49

Elon Musk? I'm pretty sure it was

2:52

Elon. Do you really think it was?

2:54

I do. There's

2:56

more evidence that it was than it wasn't.

2:58

However, it's just as... awesome if it wasn't,

3:00

because then there's a guy that really, really

3:02

wants to be Elon Musk. How do you

3:04

book them? Do you have a team that

3:06

reaches out to them? Do you do it

3:08

yourself? I could use a team. I do

3:10

it entirely myself. Like, I haven't had a

3:12

booking agent or anybody like that. You just

3:14

message them on Twitter? Well, Elon has, like,

3:16

ruined his app so much that, like, I

3:18

kind of figured out how to game it.

3:20

What's the game? Well, one, replying the conservative

3:22

posts on social media. But then also, like...

3:24

just replying in general and like being acting

3:26

dumb, I guess. I just happen to get

3:28

likes and then it'll generate attention for these

3:30

people. Yeah, do you think that they do

3:32

any research and see the kind of stuff

3:35

that you're doing to know the kind of

3:37

interview they're getting into or do they just

3:39

go in completely blunt? His handling of COVID.

3:41

Yeah. Dude, who could have handled it better?

3:43

My ass could have handled it better. Okay,

3:45

that's one hell of an ass you got

3:47

there then. People have been saying that. I

3:49

think I like operate under like so many

3:51

layers of irony sometimes that like even I

3:53

don't even know, but like they definitely don't

3:55

know what I'm getting at. Yeah,

3:57

yeah, like the way that you

3:59

booked Adrian Dipman or maybe Elon Musk,

4:01

you just said, let's do Fortnite

4:04

Friday together this week, Adrian. Call

4:06

me relentless. What I've got

4:08

a feeling this show would be

4:10

the perfect political, neutral, fair and balanced

4:12

interview that you would love. Please,

4:14

Adrian. Courage. What really got

4:16

him was the one where I

4:18

replied, like, Adrian, if you don't come on my

4:20

show, I will crash my vehicle into a highway

4:22

median. Because that's the one that he sent me

4:24

a message about and was like, hey, I'm down

4:27

to do your show. Also, You probably

4:29

shouldn't tweet these things. That's actually worked twice

4:31

now, where that got the hot two ago

4:33

to follow me as well. That same tweet,

4:35

or you also threatened to crash your vehicle?

4:37

I was like, Haley, if you don't follow

4:39

me, I'll crash my vehicle in the highway

4:41

media, and then she followed me back. Oh,

4:43

so threatening. I wouldn't say like, self -harm.

4:45

I mean, the vehicle. Threatening the vehicle. Yeah,

4:47

yeah, these people really care you. I wouldn't

4:49

be like 35 miles per hour, perhaps. Like,

4:51

it wouldn't be like that bad. That works.

4:53

It works. It works. I mean, again, like,

4:55

it's social media. Like, the world doesn't think

4:57

anything. I might as well just fuck around

5:00

on the app. You are part of this

5:02

beautiful disaster that we're in. It's

5:04

kind how look at it. to these absolutely

5:06

insane guests. It's kind of how I look at

5:08

it. I mean, not all of them are

5:10

insane. There's a huge range of the type of

5:12

people you talk to. There's some people where

5:14

you can be more vulnerable and genuine and more

5:16

real, I guess. I try to make that

5:18

clear too because it wasn't meant to be like

5:20

I'm only getting controversial people. I just happened

5:22

to kind of thrive in that environment. messing

5:25

with those people. So it wasn't about getting

5:27

the Joe exotics or the prison? Right. That's

5:29

awesome. And I love having that there. But

5:31

I also had, like, McKenna Grace,

5:33

for example, was of your mind that came

5:35

on the show that she does, like, she

5:37

was in, like, Goosebusters stuff. I

5:39

had, like, other people coming up there,

5:41

like, more, like, normal celebrities. But the controversial

5:43

people are also probably my favorite, just because

5:45

it's so ridiculous that this. they're playing Fortnite

5:47

with you? Yeah. And, like, debating politics with

5:49

me over, like, a chubb jug. You know,

5:51

here, let's just pull up this clip. Let's

5:53

just pull this clip. Teen, though.

5:55

Like, why do you need an AR -15? I

5:59

mean, aren't you using a make -believe AR -15

6:01

in your game? Yeah, it's a video game.

6:04

Yeah, I understand. But again, I

6:07

try to draw these parallels. Like, why do

6:09

you need that in the video game? Because

6:12

it's a video game, George, and

6:14

nobody's dying in the video game. I

6:16

get that. I get that. I

6:18

get that. There's no. If

6:20

he says, I get that three times, it means he

6:22

really gets. And this is the guy that was

6:24

making laws for our country. Yeah. It's just so wild

6:26

to see. I mean,

6:28

first of all, you're in Fortnite talking

6:30

about this. Will Smith with Yoda on his

6:32

back. Exactly. So you create

6:34

these environments where you kind of completely diffuse

6:36

that barrier that they might usually have. I

6:38

feel like he wouldn't normally respond to a

6:41

question in that way, although he did respond

6:43

by not responding. Yeah, I mean, maybe he

6:45

would because George is a bit of a

6:47

character, but he's, you know. So how do

6:49

you get someone like George Santos to agree

6:51

to do this thing, right? Because it's going

6:53

to be, there's going to be politics involved

6:55

in some way, right? Yeah. You can't avoid

6:57

that. And he knows that he's going to,

7:00

he knew he was going to get grilled

7:02

to a certain degree, right? Yeah. He had

7:04

to know. Yeah, for sure. With George specifically,

7:06

I just like kept tweeting at him and

7:08

like raise showing him being like, come on

7:10

the show, George, like. would love to have

7:12

you. And he, I think, liked the attention

7:14

that he got from that initially. So you

7:16

play into ego. Yeah. But like, so what

7:18

I did is I emailed him and I

7:20

was like, hey, this is the Conor

7:22

Eats pants team. We'd love to get George Santos on

7:25

the show. Me not having

7:27

a team. And it was just me. Yeah.

7:29

And then that is your team. Got an email

7:31

back from the George Santos team. It's probably

7:33

also him. So that was the thing. I immediately

7:35

clipped. Picked up on what he

7:37

was do we're doing the same thing

7:39

really figured this out. Yeah, he's like, yeah

7:41

George is an appearance fee of like

7:43

$6 ,000 I was like, well, I can't

7:45

do that So I was like I came

7:47

up with it just on the spot

7:49

some bullshit where I was like, oh Connors

7:52

twitch contract doesn't allow him to pay

7:54

political figures Yeah, and so and they were

7:56

like, oh, well, I guess we can't

7:58

do it And I was like, yeah, what

8:00

a shame and but in my mind

8:02

I was like this is not George Anthony's

8:04

George and George would love nothing more

8:06

than to be on a show like this that's getting

8:08

him tons of likes on Twitter. So I just waited

8:10

a weekend. I'll be back. Like Saturday night, I get

8:12

a message that's like, so I talked to my team.

8:15

Turns out I'm down to come on the show

8:17

for free if like you come on my podcast

8:19

I'm launching. I was like George Deagle. Sounds great,

8:21

dude. Let's do it. You did it? Yeah. I

8:23

mean, I haven't done his podcast yet, but I

8:25

guess he just launched it or something, but I'm

8:27

down to do it if he wants me to

8:29

do it. Well, then here we got this. We

8:31

got supposedly you on Muskier as well. So let's

8:33

see what he said. No, what's what's wrong with

8:35

calling a person abroad? But it's a

8:37

demeaning term for a woman. How is it?

8:39

How is it a demeaning? Because it's just like

8:41

historically used as a woman. you woman? Are

8:43

you woman? I actually don't think you know a

8:45

single woman or like have a platonic relationship,

8:47

healthy relationship with a single woman. What?

8:50

Wait a second, what is this thing? Name

8:53

three women. Name three. I'm

8:55

not gonna name anyone that

8:57

I'm personally. Name three girls.

9:01

Why should I name a specific

9:03

woman? I don't understand that. Name

9:05

three women. Why?

9:10

He couldn't do it. He couldn't do

9:12

it. With your perspective

9:14

that it's Elon, I really truly believe

9:16

it is now. Yeah, I mean again

9:19

like Either way, it's engaging and interesting.

9:21

I think he's involved in it, regardless,

9:23

because he's interacted with that Adrian account

9:25

and said he is Adrian. He said

9:27

he is. He tweeted, I am Adrian

9:29

Dittman after this stream. This is so

9:31

weird. Which is strangely, he

9:33

would want to claim ownership of that

9:35

performance. Yeah. He's

9:37

proud of this. Yeah, so I don't know. I really

9:39

don't want to look at it, but the other way,

9:41

it's funny. So do you actually think he played? with

9:44

Elon Musk. Judging by his Path of Exile 2

9:46

gameplay, I think, yeah, that might have actually been

9:48

him because he was pretty bad at Fortnite too.

9:50

In the moment where you're like, this is him

9:52

or in the moment where you're like, I don't

9:55

actually know. I didn't know at first and then

9:57

about an hour and I was like, oh my

9:59

god. This is actually him. This might actually be

10:01

him, yeah. That's crazy. So the richest man in

10:03

the world played Fortnite with you? Yeah, that was

10:05

kind of like why I... wanted

10:07

it to be him too. This

10:09

is such an indictment of our entire

10:11

society. I think it's better

10:13

just to believe it was him, even

10:15

if it wasn't. Yeah, it's a good message.

10:17

All right, we have one more that

10:20

we'll look at here. Oh yeah, this is

10:22

my favorite. I worked at zoo from

10:24

six in the morning until midnight every night.

10:26

Some of those cages were two acres

10:28

big. My job is really hard. I

10:30

work hard every day, bro. I get it. I understand. What

10:33

did you see that you didn't like? I just

10:35

thought that the Tigers could have been treated a

10:37

little bit better as though and I just thought

10:39

like what was wrong I don't know I don't

10:41

know I don't know man. I don't remember. It's

10:44

been a couple of years. You're right. I'm a

10:46

shooter viewer Using my tigers if you don't know

10:48

what the hell was wrong far I'm just saying

10:50

that maybe you know There's a reason that the

10:52

allegations were there and that they were presented that

10:54

way Like what reason would Netflix have to present

10:56

all that in that way if there wasn't a

10:58

bit of a story there? That was

11:00

to pass the big cat safety out

11:02

for Carol or Carol, but okay, isn't her

11:04

husband actually alive? Anyway, I forgot to

11:06

even mention that. No, you are

11:08

so fucking far behind on information. Wait, I

11:10

thought - God, do some homework before you

11:12

call me again. I thought he was alive.

11:14

Is he not alive? Am I wrong? Oh

11:17

my God, he hung up on me. That

11:20

was my favorite one.

11:22

That was awesome. Were you expecting to get

11:24

that deep into it with him? I

11:27

had a plan loosely. I

11:29

knew I wanted to like, so he was

11:31

calling from jail. I knew I had 30 minutes.

11:33

I knew I would like lead it into

11:35

like... He wasn't actually playing Fortnite. No, but I

11:37

did have a... I had a viewer making

11:39

an account. I made an account on Fortnite called

11:41

Santa Rosa Police Department. Yeah. Because that's the

11:43

prison he's at. And so I just had them

11:45

play in the background because normally I'm playing

11:47

with the guest on the show, but obviously he's

11:49

in jail. that wasn't logistically possible. But the

11:51

background footage needed to maintain some consistency with the

11:54

show, so I just had a Santa Rosa

11:56

Police account in the background. So you weren't expecting

11:58

to get into that with him? Like, what

12:00

were your... I was expecting at the end to

12:02

be more confrontational, to see, like, because I

12:04

knew time was gonna be up anyways. How long

12:06

did you last on the phone with him?

12:08

It was like 27, 28 minutes. Okay, so you

12:10

didn't get to full 30? No. But he,

12:12

apparently, I found out later, he had to pay

12:14

for that call. He had to pay for

12:16

it? Yeah, because he has to pay from jail

12:18

to get the call. Do you know how

12:20

much that cost? Apparently, like, Oh, he

12:23

paid to be on your show. That's what I

12:25

heard. That's what someone told me later on. Are

12:27

you playing a character at all when you go

12:29

into these interviews, or are you just being completely

12:31

authentic? I like play to, like, I think whoever

12:33

I'm talking to, like, if it's, like, a

12:35

traditional celebrity that, like, I don't

12:37

plan on getting political with, I suppose,

12:39

then, like, I'm kind of just,

12:41

like, a me, I suppose. But,

12:43

like, even when not in that situation,

12:45

it's kind of always me. A played

12:47

-up version, perhaps, because I'm on stream,

12:50

and, you know, it's entertainment. But

12:52

even the aloof kind of dry humor,

12:54

that's how I am a lot of the

12:56

time in person too. I feel like

12:58

you almost have to find a way to

13:00

be friendly with people even if you

13:02

don't agree with them. That's not necessarily a

13:05

character though. I hope that what I

13:07

do can show that I can kind of

13:09

be funny with people and not agree

13:11

with them and still... amicable. There hasn't been

13:13

a time besides Tiger King, I guess,

13:15

where it ended in a way where it

13:17

was really bad. He might get a

13:19

pardon, though. Sure. What would be crazy is

13:22

if two Fortnite Friday guests got parted.

13:24

That would be crazy. That would be wild.

13:26

If you set the precedent that anyone

13:28

that gets on Fortnite Friday You can get

13:30

parted. Yeah, you can just get a

13:32

bunch of incarcerated people on Fortnite Friday. Well,

13:34

I feel like what you do is

13:37

so interesting and working so well because you're

13:39

getting these, whether they're controversial or

13:41

not, they're just these infamous or strange

13:43

figures that you would never expect to be

13:45

in that environment, playing a game and

13:47

casually hanging out. You kind of create this

13:49

environment where it feels like you're just

13:51

on a discord call with friends. It does

13:53

not feel like it's live or being

13:56

recorded, like it's actually an interview. You're kind

13:58

of creating this environment of authenticity and

14:00

you really lead with wanting to be more

14:02

authentic. And that's kind of what the

14:04

internet does want that now, but that also

14:06

feels right for you. Yeah, I think

14:08

for streamers especially, you kind of

14:10

have to be somewhat authentic to,

14:12

like, most people are live so often that,

14:14

like, what you see is what you get, for

14:17

the most part. Specifically, like, an interview format

14:19

on, like, Twitch or live -shaming in general, like,

14:21

I kind of just equate it to, like, a

14:23

game chat situation on, like, hey, little, or

14:25

Call of Duty. And so I kind of took,

14:27

like, that kind of interaction and made it,

14:29

like, a talk show, sort of, and that was

14:31

kind of how I was looking at it.

14:33

How do you prepare for one of these interviews?

14:35

Oh, man. Um, I hate... A lot of

14:37

times I have, like, a notes app. Like,

14:39

the thing, I'm writing like a bunch of

14:42

questions. During the actual show, I can send this

14:44

to you to show, but like, I'll do

14:46

like, um... I'll make like a mood board of

14:48

sorts. We're like, after like making like my

14:50

questions and stuff, just the way my brain works,

14:52

I'll associate different things with different images. And

14:54

so I'll make a mood board of those images

14:56

and like put things near each other that

14:58

might segue or whatever. And then like while I'm

15:01

like, yeah. So you're interviewing based on an

15:03

image mood board? Kind of. So then like on

15:05

like my right monitor, I'll have like this

15:07

mood board or whatever. That's so smart. like a

15:09

run out of questions. I would have never

15:11

thought to do that. That's so smart. I have

15:13

it somewhere. I can pull it up. I

15:15

just have. Text bullet points and my brain is

15:17

just like doesn't work. Yeah, like I'll show

15:20

you the George Santos one where I had like

15:22

all these pictures of an AR. Oh, yeah. There's

15:25

like Joe Rogan. Yeah. That's so smart. That's

15:27

so smart. I'll pull it up. Yeah. Yeah. I

15:29

got to see it now. So this is

15:31

on the right monitor during the George Santos stream.

15:33

You just literally have pictures. You

15:35

have Twin Towers. You have Hassan. You

15:38

have Joe Rogan. You

15:41

got Tomater. Yeah. At one point

15:43

I do like a cars bit. where

15:45

I was like, I was like,

15:47

who, who in Pixar's cars would have

15:49

voted for who? Is

15:52

this like a snapshot into your brain

15:54

that you organize? I look at

15:56

Mater and I remember the cars bit that I'd

15:59

written down. I've only ever used text and I

16:01

feel like my brain doesn't even work that way.

16:03

I feel like images just work so much better.

16:05

Yeah, no, totally. It's better than like a bullet

16:07

point list of like questions that would sound like

16:09

robotic if I go about them. Exactly,

16:11

because when I'm looking at the text, because like

16:13

right now I have kind of like a teleprompter behind

16:15

you that I can look at and cheat. I

16:18

look at the words, and my brain has to process

16:20

the words, and then it wants to say the words

16:22

back, but you just have the images. Yeah, you don't

16:24

want to say it back verbatim. Exactly. The

16:26

images, it's almost like the way that your

16:28

brain actually processes thoughts and memories, though. God damn,

16:30

that's smart. Yeah, I just, I figured to

16:32

be, it sounds a lot more like there's a

16:34

lot more work in that put, and then

16:36

it really was. It was like 45 minutes before

16:38

the interview. I was like, oh, it would

16:40

be better to just make images, and then I've

16:42

just done it since. What do you think

16:44

these guests think of you before, during, and after

16:46

the stream? I like to think it's the

16:48

same throughout. Again, I

16:52

just kind of am myself in

16:54

interviews. It may be a plate

16:56

-up version for stream, but I

16:58

do have dry humor. I am

17:00

more quiet in real life sometimes.

17:04

But I can have and carry a

17:06

conversation, I suppose. Maybe it's only Joe

17:08

Exotic that got his perspective. Yeah, Joe

17:10

had no clue what he was getting

17:12

into, I guess, because he's in jail.

17:14

How did you even reach out to

17:16

someone, Joe? He had a social media

17:18

presence, and I guess his boyfriend

17:20

runs his page online, tweets for him

17:22

and stuff. And his boyfriend's like, hey,

17:24

Joe, this guy, Connor eats pants. What's

17:27

the talk to you? He's done interviews

17:29

with, again, mainly conservative commentators. He even

17:31

mentions it in our interviews. I'm used

17:33

to talking to Dan Bongino and folks.

17:35

This is new. I'm used to talking

17:37

to people who just say yes to

17:39

me. It's awesome that you

17:41

mentioned that, though, because Even during the Joe

17:43

interview, there's a moment where, like, right when

17:45

he's talking about Dan Bongino, where I'm like,

17:47

oh, wow, really, like, the cream of

17:49

the crop, Joe, and I can hear him

17:52

laugh. Joe Exotic knows, like, who he's talking

17:54

to, or, like, conservative, right -wing, like... like

17:56

that. And so the fact that I called

17:58

that out, he was like, oh, this kid

18:00

knows. He knows

18:02

what's going on here. And then a second later, he told you

18:04

you needed to do more research, even though you did your research.

18:06

Yeah. I mean, to be fair, I didn't do much research. Because

18:09

a lot of what he would bring up is season

18:11

two of Tiger King. And I'm like, Joe, nobody watched two.

18:13

I watched season one, and that's all I knew as

18:15

well. Joe, nobody watched season two. That wasn't a thing that

18:17

people did. And I don't think he

18:19

understood that. So I felt like there was a

18:22

time period on the internet where the

18:24

more negative that content was, the more

18:26

like dramatic it was, the more it made

18:28

people angry, the more it was rage

18:30

bait, the more that the internet would reward

18:32

it. And there's still a certain degree

18:34

of that now, but I feel like the

18:36

internet has kind of shifted a little

18:38

bit more toward wanting that authenticity, wanting

18:40

stuff that makes them actually feel good

18:42

after they watch it. And

18:44

I feel like your Fortnite Friday video has

18:46

kind of read the line because it

18:48

does feel fun and carefree, but at the

18:50

same time, you are afraid to get

18:52

a little bit more serious and even potentially

18:54

dark if it requires. Yeah, I think

18:56

that like just like the future of like

18:58

celebrity and like influencer in general is

19:00

the same thing. To be a celebrity now,

19:02

you kind of have to be a

19:05

bit more accessible than you were before because

19:07

we live in an age of like

19:09

social media where people are going to have

19:11

to follow you. You can't. be the

19:13

next big star unless you're on Instagram to

19:15

an extent, unless you're doing something. Timothy

19:17

Chalamet, for example, is very good with his

19:19

online presence and stuff and how he

19:21

promotes things, whereas also being somewhat inaccessible but

19:23

feels authentic. That's kind of a weird

19:25

and tough balance to strike. And

19:27

some people don't do it very well. And

19:29

usually those are the kinds that you see

19:31

not fall off but might have a big

19:33

controversy or something that taints their image for

19:35

a while or things like that. Yeah, exactly.

19:37

Yeah, you're right. Because there are people that

19:39

will be too distant from the internet and

19:41

then it kind of feels like the newer

19:43

generation can't really care or relate to them.

19:45

And there are people that are so deep

19:47

in it that they give all of themselves

19:49

and they don't really know where the barrier

19:51

is. And they're at the same time not

19:53

being authentic while they're doing it. So then

19:55

people - Like Elon. People see the holes

19:57

there and they're like, what are you doing

19:59

here? And then it's so easy to push

20:01

their buttons because they care so much about

20:03

what people think. And then it just becomes

20:05

so clear that they're only doing it to

20:07

raise their own sense of self -worth based on

20:09

other people's opinions about them. This is what

20:11

people call like streamers and saying it's like

20:13

you can you blame them when they're actually

20:15

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20:17

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20:19

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20:21

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20:23

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20:25

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20:27

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20:29

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20:31

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-I -L -L -A. Now let's get back to

22:11

Connery's pants. Well, you were telling me

22:14

that you also have dealt with your

22:16

own set of mental health issues throughout

22:18

your life as well and that kind

22:20

of contributed to a lot of this

22:22

and your approach to a lot of

22:24

what you do. You were even saying

22:26

that some of the stuff that felt

22:28

like weaknesses in your life kind of,

22:30

you started leaning into it and it's

22:32

contributed to what you do as well.

22:34

Yeah, I think that like, I was

22:36

pretty not lucky, but I'm glad that

22:39

I went through a lot of struggling

22:41

with getting diagnosed with different things and

22:43

knowing what that means for me at

22:45

a younger age. How young were you?

22:47

I was in high school, so between

22:49

15 and 17, 18 was when I

22:51

got most of my stuff not addressed,

22:53

but diagnosed, I guess, in that. Helps

22:56

me like I guess identify with it earlier

22:58

on rather than like not really know what's

23:00

wrong with me later in life So like

23:02

I got diagnosed like this being like on

23:04

the spectrum. I got mainly it was like

23:06

OCD symptoms ADHD With that anxiety and depression

23:08

as well. And so I missed like so

23:10

much of high school It was like ridiculous

23:12

like I was not going to class. It's

23:15

not going to class like I had friends.

23:17

I was relatively popular I had no issue

23:19

socially there. I just like didn't want to

23:21

sit down in class and learn anything. I

23:23

hated it. And so

23:25

I would really hate doing like homework and

23:27

like missing work and then like having it pile

23:29

up and like fearing like talking to my

23:31

teacher about having still not done the work that

23:33

I probably should have done. It was just

23:35

all things like that that piled on. You're in

23:38

a constant state of anxiety. Yeah. So then

23:40

I was like, I'm just gonna. Relatable. Yeah, I'm

23:42

just gonna stream video games. Yeah. It was

23:44

kind of an outlet to get away from it

23:46

and to like be myself. Whereas I didn't

23:48

really have that outlet normally because I mean I

23:50

was in a My whole life I was

23:52

in like a private Christian school. It was a

23:54

lot of people that were very affluent and

23:56

not really like with the same humor and... of

23:58

views or thoughts that like I had. So

24:01

was a somewhat weird environment. And again,

24:03

that was kind of what turned me to like YouTube

24:05

and Twitch and stuff as well as like an

24:07

outlet to more like express like my humor and stuff

24:09

that wasn't really accepted around me. Did you grow

24:11

up Christian? Yeah. Yeah. And like a Christian household and

24:13

stuff. How did that

24:15

affect you? Did it affect you? Yeah. I

24:17

mean, I think that like it in like

24:19

good and bad ways, like it was I

24:21

think that like a lot of the good

24:24

stuff stuck with me, but like, you know,

24:26

again, like being surrounded in like a school

24:28

specifically with that environment it was like popular

24:30

kids are like fake like praying with each

24:32

other and like acting very holier than that.

24:34

It's a very strange setting for like a

24:36

kid. So did you feel like an outcast

24:38

at that time? I didn't feel like an

24:40

outcast necessarily, but like I could identify. problems

24:43

with the environment that I'm in and like I

24:45

could see especially kids that were struggling arguably worse

24:48

than me in their own place in the world

24:50

and how they're acting. I could tell that there

24:52

was an issue in the environment. We have one

24:54

of your earliest clips that you ever made when

24:56

you were like eight or nine? Yeah. I'm so

24:58

glad the internet as we know it did not

25:00

exist when I was eight or nine. Yeah.

25:02

Yeah, no, it's bad for a lot of kids. Okay,

25:05

let's see what this is. I'm pretty lucky that my footprint

25:07

isn't that bad. I haven't seen this. I

25:09

just see the smallest child. Is

25:11

this you? Yeah, that's me. All

25:13

right, let's go. Hey guys, it's

25:15

Milkshake. And I'm going on

25:17

playground. It's like a Fred S character. I

25:26

would just play whatever pop song was on the

25:28

radio at that point. and then set like a

25:30

bunch of comedy sketches to it. Who knew that

25:32

kid would grow up to interview Elon Musk? Right?

25:34

Yeah. Literally. I mean, I kind of even at

25:36

the time knew that that was sort of what

25:38

wanted to do because like that was like slowly

25:40

becoming like a job at the time. Like I

25:42

remember like watching like Call of Duty YouTubers like

25:45

Woody's Gamer tagging people and being like, oh, they're

25:47

like making like a life out of this now.

25:49

So was like, oh, maybe I could do something

25:51

like that. So are you kind of just like

25:53

sitting around on YouTube watching all these gamers and

25:55

you're like, that's going to be me? I didn't

25:57

necessarily think it would be me. I think that

25:59

like, when like more like content groups are from

26:01

like you guys and like Rooster Teeth like Achievement

26:03

Hunter or stuff like that. Like it was a

26:05

it slowly shaped in my mind that maybe I

26:07

could do something like that. Once I started streaming.

26:10

It clicked more. I'm like, oh, OK, I could

26:12

see this being my life. Do you feel

26:14

like you're living your dream job now? Oh, 1

26:16

,000%. Not only my dream job, my only job.

26:18

Like, I'd be living off the government, probably.

26:20

Really? You think it'd be that? I don't think

26:23

I could work a normal job. The only

26:25

normal job I ever had was spinning a sign

26:27

outside Little Caesars. Oh, shit. Yeah, I would,

26:29

like, spin the sign. You know, like, Little Caesars

26:31

was that way. Yeah. And I did that

26:33

for three weeks, and then I quit. So you

26:35

couldn't hang with school? You couldn't hang with

26:37

sign spinning? No. You had to create your own

26:39

job. Pretty much, yeah. You've been working on

26:42

so many things in your internet career leading up

26:44

to this. It's just kind of

26:46

wild that this is where things have kind

26:48

of led you. Yeah, I mean, I

26:50

had this... I joked about Fortnite Friday for

26:52

years, because like, I did... Like, I

26:54

guess like the pilot or whatever, like the

26:56

first time I ever played with like

26:58

a celebrity on Fortnite voice chat was like

27:01

Soulja Boy like during the pandemic. And

27:03

so I called it Fortnite Friday jokingly because

27:05

Keemstar had made a like his own

27:07

like tournament series called Fortnite Friday. And then

27:09

he doesn't like me. And so I

27:11

just took the name. Who does he like?

27:13

I don't know, but like, well, anyways. We'll

27:19

leave that blank. He had he had this

27:21

name for night Friday And then fortnight was

27:23

like you can't like trademark that because it

27:25

has fortnight in it Yeah, then you change

27:27

it so you could make money off of

27:29

it So then I just took the name

27:31

because I didn't care did this whole thing

27:33

start with the you mentioned soldier was there

27:35

also a James Charles James Charles was that

27:37

was the Minecraft also a Keemstar event funny

27:39

Oh, yeah, James. Have you met my friend

27:41

Jay Schlatt? He wants to be a sister

27:43

Keemstar's Minecraft Monday years ago where he did

27:46

a just paired people up to like do

27:48

Minecraft duo, like Hunger Games or something. And

27:50

it was a terribly managed event,

27:52

but it was kind of funny. Do

27:54

you feel like where you ended

27:56

up kind of started in that era,

27:58

that time? Yeah, I mean, I

28:00

got like a huge, like I had

28:02

been streaming since like 2016, like

28:04

most nights just for fun. And then

28:06

it only became like successful, like

28:09

making me money like early 2019 with

28:11

like a big Minecraft boom. just

28:13

right place, right time. I wasn't like a

28:15

minecrafter. just happened to be doing that at the

28:18

time. And yeah, and

28:20

then that led to Minecraft Monday with

28:22

James Charles, for example, things like that.

28:24

What do you think that taught you

28:26

that you were able to bring forward

28:28

with you going into Fortnite? Yeah, I

28:30

guess looking back, that was kind of

28:32

the first time I had streamed with

28:35

a big figure. Back then, I probably

28:37

averaged 200 average viewers with my normal

28:39

content onto Twitch and got paired with

28:41

James. And at the time, prior

28:43

to like any controversy or anything, I think.

28:45

So it was like a big deal. And yeah,

28:48

I think pretty quickly I just kind of

28:50

fell into like, oh, like I am just like

28:52

talking with somebody on a game. And it

28:54

led me to... always look at an interaction like

28:56

that online. And that way it made me

28:58

feel more comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. I kind

29:00

of said the precedent of like someone that's not

29:02

normally seen playing this game, having a casual conversation.

29:04

Yeah. Like I can't imagine doing anything like what

29:06

I've done recently, like in this kind of environment.

29:08

I mean, it's kind of wild that you and

29:11

I've also got Schlatt on here and a lot

29:13

of other people who I wouldn't say you got

29:15

your start, but like that's where you kind of

29:17

solidified your, your presence. Like I've

29:19

had like a bunch of different. kind

29:21

of circles that I've been involved in

29:23

and associated with. But yeah, that

29:25

was funny. There's a lot of people

29:28

that have come through that, I think. Yeah.

29:30

That have been on here funny enough.

29:32

Yeah. Me, Schlatt, Tina, Nikki, even more. Yeah,

29:34

Tommy. I'm dreaming. All

29:36

the hitters. Yeah, all the big hitters.

29:38

You used to live with Schlatt? Yeah,

29:40

yeah. That's my best friend. I had

29:42

no idea you lived with him. We

29:44

both... got our big boom that early

29:46

2019. We both like, exploded around the

29:49

same time and became like associated with

29:51

each other. Do like Minecraft stuff, like

29:53

bits we would do together. And

29:55

then yeah, we moved to Austin together in

29:57

2021. Do you have any crazy stories from that

29:59

time? comes home from Best Buy one day

30:01

and is like, look at what I bought. And

30:03

then it was this TV that can rotate

30:05

in the living room. And so he sat, laid

30:07

down on the couch and showcased this takes

30:09

30 seconds for the TV to turned to a

30:11

vertical format and then he would just air

30:13

play his phone and scroll tiktok but he didn't

30:16

have to look at his phone anymore he

30:18

could look at the tv yeah and that's when

30:20

i was like you're getting too rich like

30:22

you're making too much money yeah this is the

30:24

sign of getting too rich this is what

30:26

you did on thursday yeah went to best buy

30:28

and bought this tv so that you could

30:30

scroll tiktok you mentioned he's getting too rich yeah

30:32

schlatt when he was on the show he

30:34

mentioned that he really prioritizes

30:37

that monetary, he

30:40

maximizes profit. Oh, absolutely. Right? He's like, give

30:42

me the bag. Yeah. And you've mentioned that

30:44

you don't try too hard to monetize yourself.

30:46

Right. Why do you have this approach versus

30:48

someone like Schlatt? I think there's a variety

30:50

of reasons. One is like, It's

30:52

partly an excuse for not optimizing my

30:54

content output. Right, you're like, I'm not

30:56

even trying, so... Yeah, I mean, like,

30:58

Fortnite Friday, for example, I haven't even

31:00

uploaded it as a video yet. Like,

31:02

they're all live streamed. Are you sure?

31:04

Yeah, I need to organize them as

31:06

actual uploads and stuff. Part of that

31:08

is the organization of it I get

31:10

very in my head about. But

31:13

it also is, I don't... I think

31:15

there is a level of... authenticity

31:17

that people appreciate that like I'm not

31:19

actively trying to like monetize my stuff.

31:21

I don't take very many sponsors. I

31:24

don't do many like merch things, things

31:26

like that, which maybe I should, but

31:28

I just I agree. I feel

31:30

like people would kind of be weary of

31:32

what you're getting at if it was all

31:34

about the monetary. Yeah, and I don't

31:36

know. I think the more I show that

31:38

like I do this because I like making

31:40

myself laugh, which is why I do it

31:43

first and foremost is important to me and...

31:45

and my audience and what I do. I've

31:47

seen your profile picture online more than you,

31:49

more than your face. Good. That's what I

31:51

like. You like being more faceless? Yeah.

31:53

Well, I mean, like, I'm finally my face

31:55

being out there now, more so than I

31:57

was before. But, um, yeah, I prefer, like,

31:59

not having my face be, like, the

32:02

brand. It probably helps you to not have

32:04

your face on camera when you're doing these interviews

32:06

with people. Yeah, and it helps just for,

32:08

like, my own, like, personal life to, like... If

32:10

I'm with people I'm close with, I don't

32:12

know, I don't have to. There's

32:14

a very weird way of perceiving yourself

32:16

when you're a creator online, I guess,

32:18

and your sense of self can be

32:20

kind of tarnished. There have been many

32:22

long periods of my life where I'd

32:24

almost see myself in the third person,

32:26

because I'd be trying to guess how

32:29

people perceive me, because my face and

32:31

me, I was so much the brand.

32:33

Even just as a viewer, I think

32:35

that that's something I... I could see

32:38

with the people I was watching, even

32:40

growing up and such, and having gone

32:42

through my formative years of early adulthood,

32:44

being online as a creator, how I'm

32:46

going to go about my brand and

32:48

how I see myself and what boundaries

32:51

I need to set. If I'm going

32:53

to do this for rest of my

32:55

life ideally, how am I going to

32:57

do that healthily? And the healthy way

32:59

is to use Sonic Chow. Use the

33:01

chow? Yeah. That's the chow, yeah. What's

33:04

with the chow? I just think, I love

33:06

Sonic Adventure 2 is like one of my favorite

33:08

games. Yeah. The Chow Gardens and that where

33:10

you raise the little creatures. I only played Sonic

33:12

Adventures 1 with a Chow Garden. Yeah, so

33:14

it was like on the VNU with a little

33:17

Dreamcast thing. It was in 1 as well.

33:19

Yeah. But yeah, I just like the little character

33:21

and he, I was like the little funny

33:23

guy characters in games. And so I just kind

33:25

of made that my profile picture at one

33:27

point. At one point I had like a pair

33:29

of pants that was like the profile picture

33:31

and so. But I liked the chow. and

33:33

Sega's chill with it, so. People have

33:35

referred to your show kind of as like

33:38

the new Hot Ones. Yes, people have

33:40

been saying that, that's true. Hot Ones is

33:42

already authentic and it finds a way

33:44

to pull people in because they're forced to

33:46

speak through this discomfort. But

33:48

I really do feel like your show goes even

33:50

deeper in disarming people, but then it also has

33:52

this extra layer of this viral appeal to it

33:54

as well. Yeah, I tried to... It's live, I

33:56

think. It helps make a bit more, like, viral

33:58

in that sense. Do you feel that extra pressure

34:00

because it's live? Or do you think that the

34:02

live aspect helps you? Oh, I think it helps

34:05

me. Because I feel like it could go either

34:07

way, you know? Yeah, it could go either way.

34:09

I to be terrified of live because I was

34:11

like, it's so much pressure, but also when it's

34:13

live, you can't redo it and you have to

34:15

just lean it. Well, it made me, like, twitch

34:17

even initially when I was chipping the five to

34:19

ten people was the instant feedback of, like, a

34:21

chat. Whereas, like, when I would upload on YouTube,

34:23

I'd wait for comments and be filled and I

34:25

got, like, a single comment. Whereas with

34:27

Twitch, I was... bouncing off of a chat,

34:29

almost like doing crowd work. And then it also

34:31

played into like improv skills a bit, which

34:33

I did improv in middle school. Some of that

34:35

kind of carried over. And so Twitch and

34:37

live format just kind of made sense to me.

34:39

Yeah. And I feel like you don't even

34:41

have the opportunity to overthink it and think like,

34:43

what are people going to think? What are

34:45

they going to say? Yeah. Because they already said

34:47

and thought the things that they were going

34:49

to say. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like instantly. Yeah. And

34:51

I think that like my biggest anxiety of

34:53

like, that I dealt with growing up

34:55

was like, being like perceived and

34:58

how I'm being perceived by other people and

35:00

not in like a self -conscious way but more

35:02

like are people actually picking up like what

35:04

I'm trying to present to the world and

35:06

like how I'm like my intentions are right

35:08

and the people see that I think that

35:10

like being live and in streamer space and

35:12

online on the internet for the past couple

35:14

of years made that challenging because I felt

35:16

always constantly perceived and at a certain point

35:18

It just blended with myself. For now, I'm

35:20

a lot more comfortable being on camera and

35:22

doing things like this because it's... it's just

35:24

part of me. When you went into doing

35:26

this, were you like, this is gonna hit?

35:28

Or were you just kind of doing what

35:30

just felt right? I mean, again, I had

35:32

like joked about it with my chat for

35:34

years, like, oh, whenever a celebrity or something

35:36

would come in my vicinity, I'd be like,

35:38

oh, like, Fortnite Friday would sell and sell

35:40

coming up. And then I'd actually just started

35:42

doing it last year with like, Jacob Sertorius,

35:44

I think was like, how I launched it.

35:46

Yeah. I relaunched it in a sense. What

35:48

was your goal going into that, if that

35:50

was your relaunch? Like, were you like, oh,

35:52

someone that people, that used to be in

35:54

the spotlight that people, Don't

35:57

really necessarily know what's going on. Yeah, I

35:59

like that idea of people that used

36:01

to be in the spotlight and suddenly they're

36:03

showcased on my stream or someone that

36:05

people kind of forgot about. I wanted to

36:07

get a damn Daniel guys on there

36:09

for a minute. Yeah. And people that you

36:11

hear about and you're like, oh my

36:13

god, I forgot about that. you please get

36:16

the Charlie bit my finger, kid? Yeah.

36:18

OK, so actually. That

36:20

kid has been down for a minute. For real?

36:22

Yes. That was like during the pandemic, right

36:24

after the Soulja Boy one. Dude, cause I'm like,

36:26

they're like 20 something now, right? One of

36:28

them is still like a kid, I think. I

36:30

think Charlie, the kid is like probably in

36:32

high school now. Okay. But like the kid whose

36:34

finger got bit, I think is probably an

36:36

adult. I don't think they've like shown their faces

36:38

on the internet. The dad like sold them

36:40

as like an NFT or something. That

36:42

video? Yeah. Do you have any goal with where

36:44

you want to take this? Or are you really

36:47

just writing it out? Like, is there a crazy

36:49

idea that you have? Like, I mean, if you

36:51

already got Elon Musk on, though, like, what's next?

36:53

Yeah, I think that, like, yeah, that's like a

36:55

weird, like, I think that I very much like

36:57

to maintain, like, what I do without, like, much

36:59

absurd fanfare and, like, budget, I guess. Like, I

37:01

think that, like, part of the appeal is that

37:03

I am just like a streamer. Yeah. That, for

37:05

the most part, is you can catch me playing,

37:07

like, a random game on, like, Tuesday. And

37:10

then, you know, on Friday, maybe

37:12

I have, like... the president on

37:14

playing Fortnite or something. I

37:17

like the idea of that. I

37:19

think it'd be sick. I think it'd be cool. I

37:21

tried really hard over October to get

37:23

Kamala Harris to do it. I feel

37:25

like you're one of the only people

37:27

that could get someone like the president

37:29

on, and everyone would be like, I

37:31

gotta watch this shit. Yeah. Because I

37:33

feel like other horses, people are like,

37:35

oh, it's just gonna be a bunch

37:37

of fluff. Oh, it's gonna be politically

37:39

leaning. You found a way

37:41

to stay so authentic to yourself in the

37:43

way that you interact with these guests, where

37:45

you're not afraid to just grill them out

37:48

of nowhere. I like what people think Lex

37:50

Fritman is. Yeah, yeah. But

37:52

you're a real. Yeah, I'm actually just

37:54

asking questions. Yeah, yeah. Do you

37:56

think that explaining the Fortnite Friday bit

37:58

ruins the bit? Did this interview

38:00

now just completely ruin you? Well, no,

38:02

because I think it's not a

38:05

bit inherently. If it is an absurd

38:07

figure, then yeah. the joke is

38:09

that they're playing Fortnite. But

38:11

I can get anybody to do it, and it's just

38:13

an interview. It's a late night talk show. I

38:15

think that my dry humor stick

38:17

can potentially be ruined for people that

38:19

I need to play into that

38:21

with, depending on whether they would see

38:23

something from me outside the context

38:25

of me asking them to come on

38:27

the show. But even when they

38:30

know, it's not a huge deal. I

38:32

feel like half of the audience totally

38:34

gets it, gets you, understands what you're doing. Yeah,

38:36

because mean, I think that I am just me. Like,

38:38

there's not really a bit to it. Like, I'm

38:40

just kind of talking to people. And then the other

38:42

half just does not know what the fuck is

38:44

going on. But I feel like it'll always be like

38:46

that because you're, you are having

38:48

these... Wild guests that bring a completely new

38:50

audience in every time who don't know what's going

38:53

on Yeah, and like a lot of times

38:55

and when they're researching me like if they're like,

38:57

okay, I'm going on Friday What is this

38:59

guest stream during the week? They see me

39:01

playing Jimmy Neutron on Gamecube on Monday Marvel rivals

39:03

or overwatch on Tuesday, and I was just

39:05

a gamer It's very diffusing Do you think there

39:07

are gonna be guests in the future that

39:10

you want to get on that you don't

39:12

agree with that might catch on to the fact

39:14

that you're not afraid to to

39:16

kind of put them on the spot. Yeah, that

39:18

kind of already happened with the Zachary Levi

39:20

one. I knew that he had

39:22

said some silly things on social media that I wanted

39:24

to talk about. He kind of was the one that

39:26

brought those topics up and kind of caught me off

39:28

guard. I was like, oh, we're already getting into this.

39:30

He tried to be used to the punch. 20 minutes

39:32

in. Still ended up being funny. But

39:35

again, I'm not targeting people that

39:37

I think would be funny to

39:39

disagree with on Fortnite. If

39:41

they happen to be who would come on the show, then

39:43

absolutely. Well, we got to make sure you get...

39:46

Gotta make sure you get the president on before I catch

39:48

on. the president. I'd like to get Joe Rogan. Oh,

39:52

who else? Do you have a dream list? Oh,

39:54

I have a list of like dream guests

39:56

for sure. Like dream? Like dream,

39:58

yeah. I mean, do you

40:00

want to name some on the list? Yeah.

40:02

I have like, I want Miranda Cosgrove.

40:04

Yeah, Miranda, I know you're

40:06

watching. Yeah, I think iCarly

40:08

needs more credit for like

40:10

actually establishing like the streamer

40:12

kind of culture. That's true.

40:15

It's actually pretty crazy how much that show

40:17

got before it was a thing. And your

40:19

name is from there, so you it. Exactly. Rudy

40:22

Giuliani probably watches the show. Rudy watches

40:24

the show. He would be great. Yeah,

40:26

he's sitting there just wiping

40:28

his die off of his face.

40:32

I didn't say that, Rudy. Yeah, we're

40:35

cutting that out, Rudy, don't worry. That was

40:37

Anthony that said that. I'd have to consult

40:39

my life. Soulja Boy being back on would

40:41

be a dream. There's so many. I mean,

40:43

there's just... Mark Zuckerberg. Mark Zuckerberg. New Zuck,

40:45

the one that's cooler. New Zuck. The Zuck.

40:48

Yeah, and he has a new haircut and

40:50

goes on Joe Rogan. He's cool now. He's

40:52

cool now. He's just one of the guys.

40:54

He's just the Zuck. Yeah. He's chill. He's

40:56

the zuck and he doesn't give a fuck.

40:58

Exactly. He should probably use that.

41:00

I'm sure he has. I'm sure behind closed

41:02

doors. Like they've workshopped it. Yeah. He's like PR

41:04

team that changes look. I can't tell if

41:06

he's really just like, I'm cool now. Or if

41:09

his PR team is like... Would be awesome

41:11

as if that's what it is. As if he

41:13

was like, like everybody around him is shocked.

41:15

Yeah. His PR team too is like, what happened?

41:17

He's like, I'm a cool guy now. He

41:19

just found himself. Yeah. He's

41:22

like, I'm 20 again. It is the

41:24

ayahuasca that makes you cool. Yeah. You've

41:26

been calling out Ben Stiller. Ben Stiller would be

41:28

awesome. I love Severance. I would be so cool

41:31

to see. That's why I'm trying to get away

41:33

from like the angle of like, oh, I'm like

41:35

always getting these like people like I'm jumping with

41:37

like a political interview because I don't want that

41:39

to be like what people think about when they

41:41

think of like my Fortnite Friday. You want kind

41:43

of the full range. I want the full range

41:45

of it because I would love to like get

41:47

people I super admire like Ben Stiller. Is there

41:49

anyone you want to say a message to directly

41:51

that we could clip for you and have the

41:53

clip go viral for you to get them on

41:55

the show? All right, well, if you're Miranda Cosgrove

41:57

or Timothy Chalamet or Rudy Giuliani, and you want

41:59

to play Fortnite night with me and talk to

42:01

me about anything. Please come on my

42:03

show. It's on Fridays. I'm

42:05

Connor Eats Pants. I was on

42:07

the SMP. Rudy's

42:11

like, bro. I'm here.

42:13

My kids love that. He's like,

42:15

oh, man, I can't wait. Mario

42:19

Kart 8, when that came out on the Wii

42:21

U 10 years ago, got on Reddit, People were like,

42:23

oh, Sears is selling it early. So we had

42:25

called to make sure that they had the game. Yeah.

42:28

And this lady, like, she picked the

42:30

phone and was like, oh, yeah, we got the game

42:32

And we're like, well, can we buy it? And she's

42:34

like, yeah, you ask for, like, let's say Leslie when

42:36

you get here. Ask for Leslie and Leslie will hook

42:38

you up. And we're like, all right, Leslie, cool. We

42:40

get there and we show up and we get to

42:42

the electronics section probably about 30 minutes after we said

42:44

we would. Guy comes up, So what you guys waiting

42:46

for? we're like, hey, we're here to get Mario Kart.

42:48

And he goes like, did Leslie

42:50

tell you that? And we're like, yeah, it's

42:52

Leslie here. He I know what Leslie's been

42:54

doing. You're not getting that game. We were

42:56

like, oh, I'm sorry. And this guy was

42:58

like pissed at Leslie to sell these Mario

43:01

Kart copies out of Sears. I I like,

43:03

oh my god. pocketing the money? I mean,

43:05

what? think so. I think she might have

43:07

been They're something in that regard. was

43:09

kind of bummed because we really wanted to play

43:11

it early. Dude, that was. I love those times.

43:13

And Heinz said it wasn't a big of a

43:15

deal because they didn't end up making a new

43:17

Mario Kart for 13 years anyway. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

43:20

We're going be plenty of time to play Mario Kart.