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Hatfield. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Nick the Giovanni.
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When Gordon Ramsay is in your ear yelling
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at you, stupid cow! I only got really
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yelled at one time. I just remember the
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way he started it was, you talk you
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are the cook, a corpse. One
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of our recent videos we trained a bunch of rats to
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be able to cook because they are one of the smartest
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species in the world. And we made Ratatouille with these rats
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which was pretty cool. So you didn't run out on purpose,
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I know that for a fact. That was probably the moment
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in my life where I felt the most stupid. I
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mean look I felt stupid a lot. Where's
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the best pizza on the planet? In
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your eyes currently. Currently for me it's
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a... What you're saying
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is offensive right now. Okay, so the chef that trained
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Gordon actually is named Marco Pierre White. He's pretty intense.
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Apparently he made Gordon cry and I think he said,
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I did not make Gordon cry. That was his choice,
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he chose to cry. Where
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are you guys headed later by the way? Jimmy invited
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us to go, well me, but we're going to bring
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Mike anyways, to go
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to, he's doing like a Halloween haunted house.
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Like the little brother. No, he's actually my
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big brother. No not since you had the kid. You
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want to know really why he brings me along places? Tell
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me. I
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bring the boom, that's what
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we do. We...
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All right. I'm
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sorry for that outburst. It's all right. Okay.
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Hmm, have we started? Oh yeah, I think
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so. I think so. I mean I guess we could probably
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start on your cue. What
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should I say? I think you just did it. Yeah, we're
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started. Oh good. Yeah, I'll do an
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intro for you. All right, this guy to my
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right right here, ladies and gentlemen, this is Nick.
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I don't think we started. What do you mean? Yeah,
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we did. I know these are the best parts.
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Everyone loves all. Yeah, but Nick, you're making me nervous. Oh,
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why? I didn't do any. I know. It's the way you look,
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bro. Oh, yeah, me too. Look at him. You're
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a gorgeous human. That's better.
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All right. Ladies and gentlemen, it's
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Nick DiGiovanni. Hold
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on. Did I say that right? DiGiovanni. Ladies
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and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen. Dude,
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this just shut the podcast down. He's nervous.
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We know we've just been doing this show
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too long, bro. So many people have passed
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us. We got it's over,
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dude. If you're still watching, please just
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hit that unsubscribe button. Please, please. Tap
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out. If you permission it's over. It's
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done. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Nick DiGiovanni.
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Yeah. Thank you. This guy
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to my right was on Forbes 30 under 30.
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He was the youngest finalist in
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MasterChef history. He's broken multiple
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Guinness World Records with Gordon Ramsay, and
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he's got a YouTube channel for cooking with
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over 20 million subscribers on it. Dude, you're
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amazing. Thank you. Yeah. Anything
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to say about being amazing? I
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got nothing. You also forgot some other stuff.
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Oh, no. I just wanted
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to qualify him a little bit. I kind
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of just took the top few people don't
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know you because the first time I met
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you was was kind of recently. And super
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recently in Mr. Beast's million dollar influencer box
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challenge. Yep. And dude,
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I was like, who is who is this good looking guy?
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I hate him. Right. Because, you know, that's I get it.
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That's the alpha coming out of me. I get it. I
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was like, man. But then I started talking to you. And
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I was like, Oh, I love him.
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I love. Can I tell you something? I didn't know
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that we'd get along either myself. Really? Then I met
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you. I was like, I I've told so many people
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now. I'm like, Logan's the nicest guy. Dude, I've been
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bragging about you. When we got partnered up, I was
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like, yes, dude. Kai
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was upset. He wanted to be your teammate. I
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did want to be Kai's teammate at one point, but I
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thought Nick at the end, I thought in that
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last challenge. It's funny because obviously if you haven't
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seen the Mr. Beast video, that's crazy because 250
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million views. But
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we had made it very far. Final
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eight, right? We slept over, so
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we were there. We were there there. I mean,
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we slept over, which was not fun. I had
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a fitness tracker on zero minutes of sleep that
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night. Oh, you just needed them all. Dude,
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you were also the only one by the door. I felt
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like you were guarding the whole group. Air conditioning. You
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run hot? Yes. I put my room
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60, 62. So air
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conditioning right by the door. I was worried someone would wheel me
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out during the night, but I was like, I got a risk.
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That's cold? That's frigid, bro. Did
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your parents allow you to touch a thermostat when you were
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a kid? No, my dad was super intense about it, actually.
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Was it a hot house or a cold house? It was
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usually whatever you didn't want it to
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be. Because you know what I mean? 100%
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hot in the summer, cold in the winter. No, we were not supposed
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to touch it. Got it. So when you get your own
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place, now it's time to rebel. Now I just go for
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it. I'm turning this into a meat locker. I
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don't know about meat locker, but I just- Dude, 62 degrees.
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That's cold. That's meat locker. But you know when you
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said it, it's just like cooking like an oven, right?
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When you set the oven to something and
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then, well, this doesn't really make that much
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sense. I'm just not even gonna go there. Everything
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you do in life, you should relate it back to cooking.
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I was like, I'm not gonna start this. It's
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not gonna work. Yeah, but that box challenge was
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really cool. Cause we got to meet a lot
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of people that we just didn't know. And you
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were one of them. I walked away thinking like,
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dude, I'm glad I've fostered that relationship with
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Nick, who I really enjoyed. I totally agree. It was a
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lot of fun. Yeah, we started small talking. You
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were telling me about tuna. I was like, this dude knows a
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lot about tuna. Yeah, too much almost. No, no, no, no, no.
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Cause you made whole videos about cutting a
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really expensive tuna in Japan. Big
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bluefin tuna. Bluefin, is
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that old, is old toro the highest level
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of tuna rating? So it's not about
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the rating. It's different cuts in the tuna. Oh, it is.
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That's different sex. See, I want to preface this before we
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even start this part. As we
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said earlier, normally these food conversations are limited. I get
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about 15 seconds. And then it's gotta go back to
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wrestling. You love food. I know you love food. I'm
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obsessed with food, bro. And today I feel like
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I have pretty good permission from
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my boss and the Illuminati by
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proxy to have these food
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related conversations. So, okay, so what part
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of the tuna is Otoro from? Well,
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so the belly, right? So
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a tuna has three different parts, Otoro,
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Chutoro, and Akami is the lean tuna,
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the bright, beautiful kind of reddish
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color that you see. So
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yeah, you have a taste for finer things,
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huh? Otoro for sure. About what's it like
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pay like $23 a piece for it. It's
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expensive. But it's so worth it. Cause there's not so much of
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it in the tuna. But yeah, and
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a really nice big tuna, you'll have one cut
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of that beautiful fatty.
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Cause what it is is just like
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Wagyu, it's like that perfect marble fat
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in between intramuscular fat, right? Is what
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happens in Wagyu. So it's like, this
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actually helps explain it really well. So
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Wagyu has intramuscular fat, which means fat
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between the muscle. And that's why
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there's spotted stuff between the little bits of
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muscle in the Wagyu. Same idea with Otoro
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and Chutoro. See, we could go
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like disturbingly deep, which we're not going through. I actually
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do want to dive into this tuna thing. I think
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tuna's fascinating. So are we going to go all the
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way to marbling score? Cause we can go to marbling
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score if we... I mean, I think that might be
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above what they grade. I think that's above his... Oh,
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cause he tells me all about the marbling score. We
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did, I got him a 12 in Vancouver. He
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had the 12 Wagyu, yeah. No one's going
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to know what we're talking about. Somebody will.
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So technically it was
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like an A6 Wagyu. You hear about A5 Wagyu? What
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we had in Vancouver was like A6 he was saying. He
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was kind of big up and it was... He's making that
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up. It doesn't exist for sure. Yeah, I
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spent $2,000 on a piece of meat. No, no, but it
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was a 12. He brought the nose
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print certificate. It was an actual 12, but A6
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is not real. That's not a real thing. That's
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not real. But you were diving into this tuna
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and you were telling me how expensive tuna can
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get in Japan and how they're so particular about
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the type of tuna that hits some of their
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market. It's really intense, right? Because even
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the top tuna sellers, there's one guy called
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the tuna king. Do you guys
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need to close that or are you... It is kind of cold.
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Well, he likes it. It's like 60, 62
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and it's on its way down to 62. Is
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it? No, you know, it's fine. I run hot as
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well. This is too cold for you guys.
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No, I love it. I'm just gonna sweat around. So there's
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a guy called the tuna king in there and
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I've gone to meet him a couple times and
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he's like sort of the top dog in the
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tuna, tuna purchasing space, but he picks who he
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sells his tuna to. So if you
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don't do good things with his tuna at your restaurant,
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you're not buying his tuna and they have that once
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annual auction. What was the highest tuna that ever sold?
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It was like 2.3 million
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or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Something crazy.
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I don't know the exact number, but it
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was that's the same price. Ironically about the
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same price as the Otani home run ball.
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Wow. What would you, which one would you
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rather take a giant tuna or, or, uh, Otani
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home run ball? Oh, I might take the tuna. No
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way, Nick. No way. I might take the tuna. Anyways,
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we started talking about this tuna. I was like, bro,
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I like this kid. Then we just started shooting shit
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and, uh, we got to
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the, to the cooking challenge. You and I had somehow made
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it into the final 10, which at that point is like
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half odds, half strategy. And, uh, you
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were like, yo, do you, do you want to team up?
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And I'm like, I don't know, bro. Cause you know, Jimmy's
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like, he's going to pin us against each other and people
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thought I rigged the game. Cause you, the top chef ended
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up as my partner for the cooking challenge. No, we were
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just having fun in there and we wanted to team up.
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I was so happy you were my partner. It was great.
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Cause I got to see you do what
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you do best. My element. I
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realized quickly why you had 20 million
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subscribers. And now dude, I was telling
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you my algorithm, especially shorts, Nick D
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Nick D. Wow. Yeah. Look at that.
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Do you have a lot of beef in the
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cooking world? Like, do you, are there, are there
9:38
chefs that you would want to take? There's a
9:40
lot of actual beef, like literal, the food, right?
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But in terms of the beef, beef, terrible joke.
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No, no, no, you guys just laugh. No, yeah. No,
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I did. I did. I was
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laughing on the inside. We'll cut it. Like it was funny. But
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what do you mean? Like, like, okay. You
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know, like for him, for example, you
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know, he, he's like the alpha guy,
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like somebody's. steps to him like, I'll beat
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you up, right? For
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you, like, is there like, do you see, do you
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appreciate all other chefs work or is there somebody that
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you're kind of like, damn bro, like if I went
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head to head with him, I could beat him right
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now? I think there's always going
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to be competition in anything. I think competition is fantastic,
10:16
right? I'm not trying to give like the basic
10:18
political answer, but I do think it's one of those things that
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makes you wake up just a little bit earlier. If you have
10:22
a couple of people out there that keep you on your toes
10:24
all the time. So yeah,
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I'm sure there's a couple of people out there that, but
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at the same time where I think we're really focused on
10:31
trying to grow, not past
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the food space, but just like really
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tried to do
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all sorts of different things and not always just
10:40
super strictly food, right? And so that's why we
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experiment with like kind of bigger ideas and bigger
10:44
videos now. Like we just, one
10:47
of our recent videos, we trained a
10:49
bunch of rats to be able to cook because they're
10:51
one of the smartest species in the world. And
10:54
we literally trained these rats to be able to
10:56
do different things. And we made Ratatouille with these
10:58
rats, which was pretty cool. And like that's not
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cooking really, right? But it's like totally different and
11:02
it's fun. So I'm trying to break outside the
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food space a little bit on that front or
11:07
the cooking space. I'm trying to break outside the cooking space a
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little bit and go bigger. But
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yeah, I think it's like,
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there are definitely like names that come to mind
11:17
of like different competitors in this space, but I
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think everyone's pretty respectful with each other. You
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are obviously so successful at what you do. What
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you do is also cool. You're like
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six foot two and you're extremely good looking at
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why you're so nice and not a douche. Mm-hmm.
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Yep. Why do
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you think? I don't know. You're a sweetheart.
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Probably your upbringing? Yeah,
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maybe. Yeah, my parents are
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super strict and I have three brothers,
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three younger brothers. So we all keep each other in
11:45
check a little bit because the first three, boom,
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boom, boom, we're consecutive. And
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this is in, you're from Boston originally. Grew up in
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Rhode Island. Oh, sorry, sorry, from Providence and you live
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in Boston now. So I grew up in a small,
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you know, the smallest state in
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the country. And so, you know,
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probably that helps. It's quieter, it's like more low
12:03
key. But yeah, you know, I have a great,
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I was lucky. I had a great family.
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R.I. gets no respect, Rhode Island gets no
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respect. Rhode Island's the best. Zero. Rhode Island's
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the best. Do you ever hear, like, do
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you ever hear the way Rogan talks about
12:16
like state, like he calls Connecticut the drive-thru
12:18
state, because you just, there's no reason to
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stop. What do you call Rhode Island? It's
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just so small. It is small, Nick. That's
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fine. No, it is fine. Yeah. Yeah. Of course it's
12:27
fine. But it's like, you
12:29
know when you want a girl to think that
12:31
you're like hot, but she calls you cute. It's
12:33
just not really what you were going for. Do
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you know what I'm saying? No. Of
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course you don't, bro, because they call you
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hot. Yeah, I'm sure,
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yeah. But can I just say, I think, but
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Rhode Island's the ocean state. We
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just talked about tuna for a while. There's a lot of tuna
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from Rhode Island. I guess maybe
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more from Massachusetts, but it's a great, it's
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a beautiful state. I don't mind
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about, I don't mind it being small. If you
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really wrapped your state, when you've gone to, isn't
13:02
Johnson and Wales in Rhode Island and you went
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to CIA? I almost went to cooking school. I
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didn't go to cooking school though. I did like
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a little bootcamp there. Oh, got it. But I
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just, I went to college and then I just.
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See, that's what I'm really curious about, because
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like cooking in general, there's
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an art. It's an art. It's
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an art. What you do is like artistic. It
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involves all your senses, if you think about
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it. Let's break it down.
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Put it together. Let me put this together. Okay,
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let's stop the senses for me and I'll tell
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you where it happens. Okay, smell.
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Smell, I mean, come on. You're smelling things all the
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time. You want to make sure something's not getting burnt.
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You know, that's easy. Touch, obviously, just
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touching the food. You're feeling things all the time, moving
13:43
pans around. Sight. Sight, yeah. I've
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cooked blindfolded before, but. You cooked blindfolded today
13:49
in your challenge. But it helps to have
13:51
sight. Taste. Taste
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all the time. You're supposed to taste all throughout
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cooking, of course. And then when you finish, that's
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the best. And the last one, the abilities. Did
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you see ghosts? I think, no, they
14:03
might've messed up. You might've been confused. What's the fifth
14:05
one? Hearing?
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Oh, hearing, yeah. Explain yourself. How do you
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hear it? I mean, being in the kitchen,
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it's amazing. You can tell if
14:15
and when something's done sometimes, probably just by, I
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mean, I can sort of almost feel it now
14:19
and hear it by just, if
14:22
I close my eyes, I can listen. And if something's
14:24
sizzling in a certain way, I'll
14:26
know if it's done. Also, here's a cool
14:28
thing. You know, the raindrop sounds in a
14:31
movie I heard are made with just sizzling
14:33
bacon in a pan. Have you ever
14:35
watched that before? How they do it? All
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the sound effects are so interesting, how
14:41
they make it all. There's like behind the scenes stuff. Now, you
14:45
need all of those to cook, but
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recently, I know we're all over
14:49
the place, but maybe it's fun. I don't know. Recently,
14:51
I tried one of those places where you take away
14:53
one of the senses while you eat. Blindfolded,
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it's called, they call it like dining in
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the dark. I haven't done this. It works.
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It does. It really
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does work. So you actually, they
15:05
actually blindfold you outside of the restaurant. And
15:08
they lead you to your seat. They don't
15:10
want you to have any kind of perception
15:13
or understanding or thought around what the space around you
15:15
is like whatsoever. That's crazy. So they lead you in,
15:17
if you have to pee, you raise your hand, they
15:19
bring you to the bathroom, then they take your blindfold
15:21
off, they come back, you knock, they grab you, they
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come back. It really
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does heighten your other
15:28
senses. When you take away one of those
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senses, because I think it eliminates
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some of that brain activity and it diverts it to
15:34
one of the other senses. If
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you can't see for some reason, it's actually really
15:40
hard to tell what you're eating. Oh, that was
15:42
a problem. And when they gave us one of
15:44
the foods, they gave us was soup. You know
15:46
how hard it is to eat soup. Why
15:48
is that? I'm not a big soup fan. Really?
15:51
I bet you can make it. Sure. I
15:54
mean, soup is fun in the winter maybe once in a
15:56
while. Not gazpacho. It's
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okay. I don't love gazpacho
16:01
either. I hate it, it's cold. Yeah, yeah,
16:03
yeah. I just find soup to be boring.
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See, that's what I don't understand, Nick. You didn't
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go to cooking school. No. So
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how do you know how to cook so well? Well,
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just same thing, family growing up, I was, we were,
16:16
so I had two great grandparents that I got
16:18
to know, two great grandmothers on my dad's side.
16:21
One passed away when she was 99, one passed away when she was
16:23
101. Oh my God. And the
16:25
one that lived to 101 cooked a lot and
16:27
really well. So I got to watch her a
16:29
bunch. And then I got to watch my dad's
16:31
mom who was also fantastic in the kitchen. And
16:34
then MasterChef after college. MasterChef
16:36
was crazy. MasterChef was crazy. Youngest
16:39
finalist in history. It was really
16:41
fun. Yeah? Were you
16:43
scared of Gordon Ramsay? When I went
16:45
in there a little bit, but also I
16:48
don't get really that nervous by meeting anybody. It doesn't
16:50
matter who it is. I'm just sort of like, you
16:52
know, because when you meet anybody, you guys know this,
16:54
you meet anybody and you're sometimes just like, you see
16:57
this huge personality online or on TV or whatever. And
16:59
then you meet them and you're like, oh, look, you
17:01
know, the six foot, he's just a six foot two
17:03
regular guy. There is truth
17:05
to that. But there are sometimes some people
17:07
like the Rizzler, for example, who like you
17:09
meet these people and it's just like, I
17:13
understand like why you are you. Or
17:15
a, you know, he's a hater. No,
17:17
I'm not a hater. I'm just, I'm
17:19
an appreciator of the opposing viewpoint. I'm
17:21
a fan of A.J. and Big Justin.
17:23
Yeah, bro. To me, two
17:25
people that actually bring the boom far
17:28
outweigh someone who in my eyes doesn't
17:30
bring, he doesn't bring the same level.
17:32
That's insane. Have you seen this? Bro, Jimmy Fallon was
17:34
just a guest on Rizzler's show. Whatever,
17:37
dude. In my day. And by the way, he does
17:39
bring the boom as well. Did the Rizzler come up?
17:41
Did the Rizzler come up at the same time? Yeah,
17:43
bro. Yeah, they're all in the club. Yeah, and he's
17:46
independent. He's an independent artist. I'm
17:48
just gonna let this play out. I didn't
17:50
want to interrupt. No, because I don't really
17:52
have anywhere to go with it. I just,
17:54
I just think about what A.J. and Big
17:56
Justin have done for the economy, for corporations
17:58
like Costco. Like what is the Rizzler's true?
18:00
economic effect then? Dude,
18:03
honestly, how dare you? How dare you? I'm
18:05
asking you a critical question. You're just providing
18:07
sentimental upsetness. Nah, bro, have you seen that
18:09
face? I met the Rizzler of
18:11
real life. I met the Rizzler of real life,
18:13
and the amount of aura that guy has is...
18:16
It's tangible. It affected everybody in the room. I
18:18
seen a tweet, I seen a tweet saying
18:20
like, I'm tired of these fake celebrities.
18:23
First off, what makes a real celebrity? I'm tired of
18:25
these fake celebrities taking over, and it was
18:28
a picture of like the Rizzler, and I'm like, man, you clearly never
18:30
met the Rizzler. He kind of reminds
18:32
me of Tony Soprano. Yeah. And
18:34
just like a strange... I have no opinion on this,
18:36
so... So, wait, you're
18:38
telling me, when Gordon Ramsay is
18:40
in your ear yelling at you, you
18:43
smell like... You smell like
18:45
wet bedsheets. Pretend... Yeah,
18:47
let's do that. You're an idiot sandwich. Pretend you're
18:49
him. Pretend you're him for a second. This beef
18:51
Wellington is horrible. You're horrible. You're a
18:53
horrible person. Your eyes, I wish you didn't have them.
18:56
Do you have a better British accent? Scottish.
18:58
Who taught you how to cook a
19:01
corpse? Fuck you,
19:03
mate. Okay. Bring it back
19:05
to the arsenal.
19:08
I don't know. What do they say?
19:10
Like, this porridge tastes like dog meat. I
19:12
think that your content itself, the words you
19:14
said were better, but your accent... All
19:17
right, give me the words. I
19:19
don't... There's something about his eyes. Your
19:22
eyes, mate. They're lying to all...
19:25
Now I'm... So
19:28
I only got really yelled at and reamed out one time.
19:30
And it was... I do remember it. I
19:35
just remember the way he started it was he said, you! And
19:38
he was standing on this balcony and he said it
19:40
like that. It was just very intense. And what had
19:42
happened was he had told everybody to stop cooking for
19:44
a second. And I didn't hear him because when
19:46
I cook, I get locked in sometimes. Right? We
19:49
were goofing around cooking and I was kind of
19:51
messing around more. When I cook, cook, I get
19:53
locked in. And I
19:55
was locked in. I wasn't paying attention. I didn't hear,
19:57
so I kept cooking. He stopped the whole
19:59
room. and he just must've yelled at me for probably a
20:01
minute. Maybe it was like a minute and a half. I
20:03
don't know. I got bright red, just kind
20:05
of stood there and looked at him for a while.
20:07
And then he stopped. And I think everyone just felt
20:09
bad for me. It was almost sort of like sad
20:12
because I was just like this little kid at the
20:14
time. How old were you? Well, I was old enough.
20:16
Like I was like old enough to get yelled at
20:18
certainly like 20, I
20:20
don't know, 22 maybe. Still
20:22
very young. Yeah, I was young because everyone else in
20:24
the room was probably over 35, 40, right? So
20:28
I was, yeah. What
20:30
were you getting reamed for? Just
20:33
not listening enough. Like he said, like I've
20:35
been telling you guys for X amount of
20:37
time, stop cooking. When I
20:39
tell you to stop cooking, you stop cooking all this stuff,
20:41
yelled at me for, and he just kind of put me
20:43
back in my place for a second. And then it kind
20:45
of cooled down. He explained what
20:47
he needed to explain, which probably took less time
20:49
than he actually spent yelling at me. And
20:51
then we kept cooking. But it was just
20:54
kind of like humiliating, right? Because for the rest of
20:56
the day, I had my tail between my legs and
20:58
I was just sort of like. Does he feel bad
21:00
now that you're like a internet cooking superstar? We
21:03
just passed him on YouTube. Like that's what
21:05
I'm saying. Two days ago. Like you essentially stunned
21:07
him. Congrats, dude. Well, and I'm only saying that
21:09
by the way, because we had a whole campaign,
21:11
like subscribe to catch Gordon, whatever. Which
21:14
was really cool. And it worked. Yeah, I mean, he knew
21:16
about it too. He mentioned it. I got to go back
21:18
and judge one of the episodes of MasterChef last season. He
21:20
mentioned it to me. And
21:22
he, I mean, he's cool. He's so cool. Well,
21:25
you've gotten to spend a lot of time with
21:27
him off the show. Cause you guys have done
21:29
a bunch of challenges together. Yeah, he's great. Is
21:31
there any, what's like something that no one would
21:33
ever suspect about him that you, that you know?
21:35
And you know what I think is super cool
21:37
that I will say is just like, it's the
21:39
classic case of somebody who he goes
21:41
around the room. He knows everybody's name. He asked how your
21:44
family is. He asked, you know, meeting
21:46
as many people as he meets, he might not remember
21:48
every single detail. I don't think it would be possible,
21:50
but he actually seems like he cares what he's hearing.
21:52
And when he's talking to you last time he came
21:55
and shot with us, he
21:57
walked in the room. I remember my camera guy went over to
21:59
try to mic him. I don't know, hold on for a second.
22:01
He just sat down on the counter and we must've talked for
22:03
like 20, 25 minutes, just like two
22:05
of us hanging out, talking, asking me how
22:07
I'm doing, how my parents doing, because he's
22:09
met them and my family and all that
22:11
stuff. And so he's just nice, he's a
22:13
cool guy. Wow. So a lot
22:15
of times when you meet, is
22:18
it kind of similar to, not to
22:20
compare the two, but like meeting Logan and having like a
22:22
completely different like idea based off of what people say about
22:24
them. And then you meet him and you're like, wow, he
22:26
actually is a really... Yeah, I mean,
22:28
if I'm being totally honest with you guys, I
22:30
thought I would like Logan probably less than I
22:33
thought I would like Gordon Ramsay, because you just
22:35
like, you have a lot of stuff that people
22:37
go after you online. And I don't
22:39
believe everything I see on the internet. Unlike I think
22:41
a lot of people in the world, they
22:44
just see anything and they're like, oh, that happened, right?
22:46
And I think we know like a lot of the
22:48
time it comes out that something may have not happened
22:50
or just someone made something up, right? But I mean,
22:52
the internet's a tough place to live as you guys
22:54
know, right? But I
22:56
think, yeah, I think Gordon, I just thought was
22:59
gonna be a little bit meaner in real life
23:01
and he just was not mean at all. There's
23:03
a lot of like nuance to this stuff. And
23:05
then once you factor in like the entertainment content
23:07
side of things, like entertainment is entertainment and sometimes
23:09
like being mean, especially on a chef show is
23:12
amazing. I also think it's so
23:14
cool that you're probably the most successful,
23:16
like whatever that means person to come
23:18
off of MasterChef and you did
23:21
it with this internet uprising. Because
23:23
you have this passion, this artistry
23:25
of cooking that you like, and then you
23:27
turn it into content. But when did that
23:29
journey start? Because you've got to
23:31
be one of the biggest cooking channels on YouTube. Yeah,
23:35
I think, yeah, that's our next goal is
23:37
we're gonna try to just, for fun, just
23:39
try to get this world record most subscribed.
23:41
I think the most subscribed channel has like
23:43
30 million. Whoa, what's his intro? It's
23:46
an ASMR channel. Where's that? Is that on? I
23:48
think it might be him. Zach Choi. Yeah, yeah.
23:50
I don't know him, but I think it might
23:53
be his channel. I mean, he's great. He's fantastic
23:55
as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The videos are cool,
23:57
but I think, It
24:00
was probably just a little bit after MasterChef. I
24:02
was back in Boston, experimenting,
24:05
TikTok blew up. TikTok, not for me, I'm just
24:08
saying TikTok went crazy as a platform. And
24:10
then I just started making fun videos
24:12
on there. And then it just kind of rolled into
24:14
something bigger that you just, I'm sure you guys get
24:16
it, right? When you start making videos, there's
24:18
like an art to it that you kind of fall in
24:21
love with eventually. And it becomes like, I don't
24:23
know about you, maybe you guys are, you were-
24:25
Oh, he does, I mean, my, what? Do you
24:28
love the art of making content? Every time I
24:30
talk to you, you're just complaining about it. Okay,
24:32
well, I'll explain. So outside, this is, I love
24:34
this, right? And I do a show on
24:37
YouTube called The Night Shift, which has had varying levels of
24:39
success over the years. In
24:41
my eyes, if you don't evolve, you'll
24:43
eventually look at the craft as mundane. At first,
24:45
yeah, for sure. When I first started doing them,
24:48
now I feel almost obligated to my audience, which
24:50
I don't have a problem with, but
24:52
you do need to evolve the craft. The thing I really
24:54
wanted to ask you about on your side is, whenever
24:57
I talk to people that want to
24:59
be creators, the
25:01
thing I always tell them, but which also ends up
25:03
being the biggest risk, because listen, there's a bunch of
25:06
cheat codes out there. If you want to blow up
25:08
right now, go say some fucked up shit. Go talk
25:10
about politics, talk about religion, make fun of somebody, say
25:12
some messed up stuff. You can get a bunch of
25:14
hours easy, right? But to
25:17
truly go into
25:19
a niche space and truly dedicate
25:21
yourself to it completely, especially a space as a
25:23
man, especially a space to
25:25
cooking, right? There's
25:27
a little bit of risk there. When
25:29
you first started making your videos, were they
25:32
100% focused on food the entire time since
25:34
the get? Since the start, yeah. Got it.
25:36
It was cooking. Yeah, but it more from
25:39
basic simple cooking all the way into these
25:42
bigger crazier ideas. The
25:44
way I've always looked at it with the niche thing is with
25:47
the overall stuff and general
25:50
stuff, you can have
25:52
a pretty solid audience. You do this, you do that, and
25:54
it kind of goes with you. With the niche stuff, you're
25:57
either gonna fail or you're gonna be the biggest thing in
25:59
the world. Totally. You know what I'm saying? Like it's kind
26:01
of one or the other, but. It's tough. I'm
26:03
sure you had a video that popped off that
26:06
kind of. Early. Yeah, skyrocketed your career. Yeah, we
26:08
had one that was making chocolate from scratch. Like
26:10
fresh, I started with fresh cacao pods, the fruit.
26:12
And I'm sure you guys now have seen that
26:15
online, maybe at some point, but at first no
26:17
one had seen that online. It was not, just
26:19
it wasn't really done. And then we
26:21
got these pods, which are really hard to get. Ecuador
26:24
is probably the number one go-to place
26:26
to get cacao. We got these pods,
26:28
we made chocolate. I kind of made it like in
26:30
a sort of hacky way. And it was filmed horribly because
26:33
I didn't understand how to use my camera and the lighting
26:35
and all this stuff, but it worked and it was cool
26:37
and it was intriguing. And then after that, it just, you
26:39
know, I just saw a little
26:41
success there and it was just so much fun. And I
26:43
just, I think every day after that for like a year,
26:46
I must've made it at least one video. That's
26:48
how you have to do it. Definitely. Just
26:51
keep, yeah, yeah, you just put in the reps essentially.
26:53
Yeah. But you're a relatively
26:55
like new, like creator, correct?
26:58
Like four years now, maybe. Bro, that's insane.
27:01
That's the amount of success you've reached in
27:03
four years is wild. Yeah, it's a lot
27:05
of subs. Have you been pleased or disappointed
27:07
at all by anything involving this YouTube life?
27:10
It's stressful for sure. I mean, we have an
27:12
awesome team. It's a very small team.
27:14
I saw a video a while back where you were
27:16
telling that some guy that you have
27:18
a super small team. I remember you went like that with your
27:20
fingers and said, we're locked. No, they're here. Yeah.
27:23
They're literally here plus manager, Jeff. That's
27:25
it. Yeah, I remember you said that. And I
27:28
thought that was cool because it's just the same way that I
27:30
am is like we have a nice small core team. I get
27:32
really sort of bothered when there's a bunch of people spread all
27:34
over the place and it's just sort of a mess. And you
27:36
need to trust like this small group of people and
27:38
then all be on the same page. And then
27:41
I think once you have a team so big that you
27:43
start not knowing people's names or you like, you just don't,
27:45
then it's like, it's just, it's hard
27:47
to tie it all together, right? So I
27:50
like having a small team, but
27:52
YouTube is stressful. I'm definitely just every day
27:54
that goes by more and more and more
27:56
and more stressed. What's your output? How often
27:58
your cadence? Well, we put
28:00
long videos out every two weeks, but it's, you know,
28:02
a lot of them now would take four days to
28:05
shoot or like this upcoming video we're doing, we're traveling
28:07
to six different places around
28:09
the world, Hong Kong, Mumbai, Dubai,
28:13
like I think New York, and then we
28:15
went to Copenhagen. Like it's just crazy. For
28:17
one video? For one video. And
28:19
that's insane. And that one's not out yet? No,
28:22
but it's just visiting all these craziest restaurants all around
28:24
the world. Where did you go in Copenhagen? Alchemist.
28:27
You went? Yeah, I was crazy. I've
28:30
done the experience not Copenhagen, but they did
28:32
a pop-up, a $10,000 plate pop-up
28:34
at the Super Bowl. Yeah, I didn't spend that much. Well,
28:38
I mean, first of all, you can get
28:40
into Alchemist. People can't get
28:42
into Alchemist. It's not a reservation
28:45
that you can make. That's why we went. It
28:47
sells out in three seconds. It's insane. Guess how
28:49
long the meal took. How long? Guess. Take a
28:51
guess, Logan. I guess a week?
28:53
For dinner. No, no, no, for dinner. Oh,
28:55
two hours? For dinner. Four hours?
28:58
A week? That was your guess? It's a long
29:01
dinner. Never had a week-long supper. I don't know what if
29:03
they were... I don't know what if they were prepared. Eight
29:05
hours. So you just sat there for
29:07
eight hours? Full eight hours. 5.45 p.m. to 1.40. Craziest
29:10
thing that they gave you. I
29:15
ate a butterfly. Same. The freeze-dried
29:17
butterfly scared the shit out
29:19
of me. Rabbit tartar. I didn't
29:22
know. Rabbit sashimi, raw rabbit.
29:26
This is wild. Did they give you that
29:28
backlit cream that
29:31
you scraped off with a cracker and it had
29:33
a backlight to it? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that
29:35
was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also,
29:37
they gave us a glow-in-the-dark drink, which was pretty
29:39
cool. They turned off all the lights
29:42
and then there was this glow-in-the-dark drink. That was pretty
29:44
sweet. Honestly, it was crazy. 50 courses, eight hours. Tell
29:46
them what movie is based on
29:48
the outcome. Is it the menu? Yeah.
29:50
No way. So anybody who's seen the... Honestly,
29:53
it was just kind of creepy. Even standing outside, it was
29:55
kind of creepy. And then there's like this one moment where
29:58
you go into a room and there's... And there's just this
30:00
girl sitting there and she doesn't say any words and she's
30:02
kind of dancing around and like looking at you. And
30:05
then she all of a sudden has a bucket of paint
30:07
and she just like takes the brush and just eats
30:09
the paint. And you're like, what the hell is going on
30:11
right now? And then she gives you a bucket of paint
30:13
and it's edible. And you just paint the walls and like
30:15
have fun for like- Was the
30:17
environment there immersive, the restaurant? Cause when I
30:20
went, they had like screens everywhere that Geisha
30:22
is like, it was real, but the butterflies-
30:24
It blew my mind. I had trouble with.
30:26
But oh no, I had no problem. I'll
30:28
try anything like that. Any food, I will
30:31
try it once. I'll try it once. It
30:33
blew my mind, but anyway, it just, yeah.
30:35
Do you have a favorite restaurant? In the
30:37
world? Yeah. My favorite restaurants are
30:39
the ones that are just like, genuinely just
30:41
the ones that are not fancy. I
30:44
like to eat pretty quickly too. Like go in, have a
30:46
great meal, have some fun, and then get out. Like I
30:48
don't like sitting there for too, too crazy long. As
30:52
I've grown older and matured, that's what I prefer.
30:54
So you don't like the gastro stuff? I
30:57
just don't like super long meals. I
30:59
don't love them either. Because do you remember where you went
31:01
in Dubai? We haven't gone
31:03
yet. It's Asiano, it's like in the aquarium. Because
31:06
there's a place there called Tresson Studios as well,
31:08
which is number 11 right now in
31:10
the top 50. It's an Indian
31:12
inspired menu, but
31:15
and it's phenomenal, absolutely phenomenal. So
31:17
me going to Alchemist is more
31:19
on, me going to Alchemist is
31:21
for my subscribers. Like that's because I
31:24
know it's going to be crazy for the video. I
31:26
would not go myself for an eight hour or six
31:28
hour, whatever it takes if you're just eating really fast
31:30
meal. I wouldn't do it. So gun your
31:32
head right now. Favorite restaurant?
31:35
Or even what food are you going to eat? Hey, guess
31:37
what? You're going to the afterlife today buddy, with the Rizzler.
31:39
Probably some real, I don't even know who that is. You
31:41
have to go with it. Who's the Rizzler? He
31:44
was the guy we talked about earlier, Ora, a lot of
31:46
Ora. I don't know who it is. Jimmy Fallon just did
31:48
his show. Show him, show him the thing. Okay. Well,
31:50
he does this. Scratches
31:53
his chin. And he's
31:55
famous for it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Good
31:58
for him. Full of food. I
32:01
just grew up in New England, so just
32:03
like nice crudo, maybe some raw oysters, some
32:06
good fish, like some raw fish, sashimi, probably
32:09
just some fresh, good seafood, maybe clam
32:11
chowder, like a nice, simple seafood. I
32:13
love oysters, but I have to be
32:15
honest with you. Okay. The
32:17
thought that like they're
32:19
pretty much hit or miss is a little
32:21
scary. What does that mean? Like,
32:23
man, you have to be honest, bro. If you
32:26
order oysters, there's a 33% chance
32:29
that they're not gonna be good and taste too fishy. What's better
32:32
where you go, right? No. You gotta know
32:34
where to order them. But I don't know, I
32:36
just, like, I like oysters. Don't go to a
32:38
random restaurant where they just have one type of
32:40
oysters on the menu and order those oysters because
32:42
that's not what they're focused on. That's not a
32:44
specialty. They just have that on the menu to
32:46
have them. Go to a seafood place, go to
32:48
a place that has three or four different types
32:50
of oysters and you could try them out and
32:52
they have someone in the back that knows how
32:54
to shuck them and they're keeping
32:56
them on ice when they put them out. Yeah,
32:59
I mean, I don't order oysters unless
33:01
I'm at a place where I know they're gonna be good
33:03
because A, I don't wanna get sick and
33:05
they might not be storing them right. And B, if
33:07
they're not selling them fast and all the time, then
33:09
they're not turning over a lot of oysters and then
33:11
you might get some old oysters. Some not fresh. Are
33:13
you, do you know what, if you prefer East Coast
33:15
or West Coast? I really like
33:17
like Kumamoto's. They're super cucumber-y kind of.
33:21
I think Japan and, I like
33:23
the small ones. I like the small ones. Why
33:25
does Japan produce so much quality
33:27
product? They are just. They're
33:30
just masters of their craft when it comes to seafood. And
33:32
I think they just happen to be in a place that
33:34
has some really nice fresh seafood. If you look at the
33:36
whole coast of the West Coast and then Japan, that whole
33:38
kind of area that is just. Have you spent a lot
33:40
of time, have you spent time there? Yeah, yeah,
33:43
yeah. I mean, we've gotten to travel so much for
33:45
food because food, so you have to go around the
33:47
world to try different foods. So we've gotten to go
33:49
all over the place. I wanted to ask you, when
33:51
you're traveling, I'm sure you're running into esteemed
33:54
chefs often. I
33:57
would call them your peers, but do they
33:59
ever look like you're traveling? Look at you with a
34:01
stigma like, oh, that's the YouTube chef. He
34:04
doesn't run a kitchen. He doesn't have
34:06
his own restaurant. He makes YouTube videos
34:08
about cooking. I'm a real cook. I
34:11
don't know what they say behind closed doors, but I think
34:13
that I would have thought that they would be like that,
34:15
but I don't think that they're like that. I think everyone
34:17
knows that the times are changing and that everyone's super open
34:19
and nice about
34:22
new people coming to the space. And I think
34:24
they know it leads to more creativity. And hey, I mean,
34:26
we make videos at some of their restaurants and then people
34:28
hopefully go to the restaurant. So
34:31
I think there's definitely a nice
34:33
relationship there, I think. Do you
34:35
ever wanna open up a restaurant of your own? I would
34:37
love to someday. If I find the right partner and the
34:39
right people, I would love to start one in Boston and
34:41
then spread out from there, but- Dude, you have to. It's
34:43
not the top of my list right now, but I would
34:45
love to. Do you like Smash burgers?
34:48
I love them. Because I mean, he's
34:50
got a sick Smash burger and a restaurant.
34:52
Okay, then I would love to try one.
34:54
Dude, it's called 10 10
34:57
Burger because he has a
34:59
burger review channel. Well, he rates burgers
35:01
on his channel. It's
35:03
actually, I would say, the most popular
35:06
burger review on the internet.
35:08
I've definitely seen some burger reviews. You
35:10
definitely have. And he's eaten burgers all
35:13
over the world. And so he decided to make
35:15
his own burger and he calls it a 10
35:17
out of 10. And it's like, bro, it's not
35:19
a 10, it's like a 9.8. Right,
35:21
yeah, which I'm fine. But it's great. It's
35:23
a great burger, I found. Yeah, I found a chef in LA.
35:27
He not only understands the process of
35:29
making Smash burgers but how to teach it, Chef Jackson.
35:32
So his whole role before joining the company
35:34
was teaching other places how to make Smash
35:36
burgers. So you brought up Gotham and Gotham
35:38
in New York is top, top
35:40
tier Smash burger. I call that a very
35:42
solid 9.5. I'm
35:45
just interested to see where
35:47
the Smash industry goes and that
35:49
concept goes, because you kind of
35:51
saw it with chicken. It popped
35:53
up with Kane's and Dave's Hot.
35:56
Now Kane's and Dave's
35:58
Hot made an... for
36:00
themselves in the industry and like took over
36:02
a big enough spot that they're doing billions
36:04
of dollars in annual revenue. That's insane. Like
36:07
really, like Keynes is going crazy, right? I
36:10
just haven't seen anyone do it in the
36:12
smash face. And then the next question is
36:14
what's next? Like what's gonna be the next
36:16
food to become like that social media viral
36:18
food? That's a good question. If
36:20
I knew the answer to that, you should
36:22
think about it. Or you could just, or you can
36:24
just market make it because you have such a big
36:27
audience. You just decide what you want it to be
36:29
and make it that. That's right. The problem is honestly,
36:31
I just it's not my expertise. I'd need to find
36:33
someone of course, right? Because you saw like you can
36:35
see what happens if you really try to blow something
36:37
up huge, right? It's just hard to
36:39
keep the quality and I mean
36:41
I have to be careful. I want to
36:43
be careful about that for sure. I can make a we
36:46
could drop everything right now go to the kitchen back
36:48
there and I can make a really good smash burger,
36:50
whatever you want. But obviously if I then tried to
36:52
just sort of scale it more widespread, it's hard. That's
36:54
I don't know how to do that. What
36:56
percentage of the time are you cooking for work?
37:00
Versus cooking for leisure. Unfortunately, probably 98
37:02
to 99% work. No
37:05
way. And I used to have I
37:08
used to be a lot more fun in a
37:10
different way, right? In college, I worked at a
37:12
restaurant right up the road from my dorm. So
37:14
I would finish
37:16
class on I actually would would
37:18
kind of organize my classes around it and I would
37:20
finish up class and then you
37:22
know, I'd show up at maybe two o'clock. I'd be
37:24
prepping until maybe six. It would open up and then
37:27
boom boom boom boom all the way to midnight. And
37:29
I just cook and have so much fun. It was
37:31
the best and this was in your school aware at
37:33
this point at Harvard over at Harvard. Yeah. Did
37:36
you already know the answer? I mean, I did.
37:38
I'm not sure the audience did. Okay, that's great.
37:40
But I like how that you just toss that
37:42
in there, you know, yeah, you created a food
37:44
major there. I did. Yeah, that's
37:46
insane because I really wanted to keep doing stuff
37:48
with food. And I just there were
37:50
40 there were 49 majors and
37:53
I didn't like
37:55
any of them. So I just I there was
37:57
one that was you could create a special one.
37:59
And I got all these professors to help me
38:01
out. and it took like two years to make,
38:03
but I finally, because it was hard to prove
38:05
to Harvard that they didn't have something that would
38:07
work for me. You know what I mean? Yeah.
38:09
They make it really- Food and climate. Yeah. What's
38:12
the relationship between food and climate? Well, I mean,
38:14
that's a really important relationship. It's like one of
38:16
the biggest things that impacts climate change, right? Is
38:18
a bunch of things that relate
38:20
to creating food and then a bunch of, a
38:23
big part of it is the food waste. And then it's
38:25
just kind of an endless cycle of just- His
38:27
sister and his brother-in-law came over to the place we're
38:30
staying at right now and they
38:33
told us that they didn't eat red meat. And
38:36
I said, why? And they said, well, you know,
38:38
for the animals and also for the environment, climate.
38:41
And they said it's because the cows are farting and methane.
38:44
Methane. And I know about this, but I
38:46
didn't realize that like two people not eating red
38:48
meat would potentially like fix that. Well, it's not
38:50
two people. It's supposed to be part of a-
38:53
It's certainly, I know, just like, you know, humans
38:55
have been around for 200,000 years and
38:57
we've eaten red meat the entire time. So
39:00
what about now makes people think that not
39:02
eating red meat will help the environment anyways.
39:04
Well, cause cows are farting. No, well, for
39:06
the- I wanna ask the guy with the
39:08
harvest for fucking time. I think you're maybe
39:10
missing the point a little bit. I'm definitely
39:13
missing the point. I don't think I understand.
39:15
Red meat's great. I love wagyu. Yeah,
39:18
yeah, red meat's nice. I like red meat as
39:20
well, but it's just more of the fact that
39:22
it just creates a lot of emissions to make
39:24
meat. But I'm never gonna be someone to go
39:26
and tell people to stop eating. By the way,
39:28
they didn't tell me, they didn't preach. I
39:31
was so curious cause like, dude,
39:33
I love red meat. I
39:35
love red meat. The reason why it's probably
39:37
worked for X amount of years, but might
39:39
not as much now is because of how
39:41
many people are on the planet. And
39:44
we're like, the
39:46
production of beef has
39:48
become a mass production event where we're
39:51
like literally farming cattle. And
39:53
by the way, this is coming from someone who needs to
39:55
do so to produce enough meat for the burger. So
39:58
I'm not knocking it whatsoever. I'm just- telling you
40:00
that's where all the farts are coming from. You
40:03
know what I'm saying? Especially if you get like a good
40:06
corn fed fart because in
40:08
England, for example, they require you to
40:11
use grass fed beef. And I don't
40:13
like the finish on it as much.
40:15
I didn't know that. That's interesting. I
40:17
like a grain fed thin, grain fed
40:19
through because this is technical. Yeah. Anyways,
40:22
okay. So the relationship between food
40:24
and climate. So that's one. So
40:27
beef, but I'm sure like how,
40:30
talk to me about the weight. The weight is a huge part. What's
40:33
that? The estimates say what we waste
40:35
about, I mean, people are always gonna argue what's
40:37
the right number, but about a third of the
40:40
food that we create may be wasted, which
40:42
is a lot. Think about it. I
40:45
did. A third of all the food. I put a
40:47
shrimp in the trash can today that I didn't use. Is
40:50
that what we're talking about? Like am I the problem? I am. I
40:53
just pulled a small piece of shrimp that was stuck in
40:55
between my teeth out of my mouth. Is
40:57
that for- No, wait. Asshole.
40:59
You might be the problem. Pick it
41:01
up. Eat it. I
41:04
can't find it. You might be the problem. Damn.
41:06
So I'm used to being
41:09
the problem, I feel like. Why is food
41:11
waste such
41:14
an issue? Is it because- Well, think about it. You
41:16
just create all this food and then it gets thrown
41:18
away and then you make
41:20
it again. So the waste is on the production
41:23
side. You're not talking about- No, no, it's a
41:25
mix for sure. Like there's gonna be a nice
41:27
spread. I don't know the breakdown of it honestly,
41:29
but I probably did in college, but it's
41:31
a mix. Like I'm sure there's a bunch wasted on the
41:34
backend for consumers at restaurants and at
41:36
home and everything like that. But then also along
41:38
the process, throughout the whole supply chain, there's just
41:40
things being wasted the whole way. Farmers have to
41:42
throw out tons of their crop because maybe it
41:45
didn't get bought or it just, it's a whole
41:47
mix of the whole A to Z. And
41:50
what do you, and so the main thing
41:52
that you're trying to prevent or
41:54
at least discuss preventing in this
41:57
program is impact on climate. Yeah,
42:00
is impact climate change or? I
42:03
was just studying it to learn more about myself, honestly.
42:05
And I was just studying it to
42:07
learn more about it myself. And
42:09
it was an academic enough subject that
42:12
they would accept my concentration. So I mean, self-
42:14
So you don't care about the environment. I do.
42:17
At all. I was gonna say selfishly,
42:19
I cared more. Selfishly, I cared more about the
42:21
food, honestly. That's what I wanted to do. I
42:23
wanted to study food and stuff with cooking, but
42:25
also I was genuinely interested and intrigued by the
42:27
environmental side of it. So I thought that was,
42:30
but you know. And then now I wanted
42:32
to kind of keep that trend. So we have like a,
42:35
at the start of everything I told myself, I would
42:37
never do merch. Cause I just, I kind of like
42:39
to just be different where I can. And I feel
42:41
like everyone has merch, but we created a merch company
42:43
like earlier this year where we donate 10 meals per
42:45
item sold. And that's just like a simple,
42:48
fun way to just, you know, like there's little
42:50
facts if you want to read them there and all that kind of
42:52
thing. And then it's kind of a fun
42:54
way to just get people- It's pretty successful, right? It's
42:56
good. It's really, it's nice. Potato? Yeah.
43:00
It's like a silly name. How many meals have you guys donated? In
43:03
the hundreds of thousands. That's awesome. It's new, obviously.
43:05
We're starting out with it, but it's a lot.
43:07
It's good. Yeah, that's awesome. That's so
43:09
cool, man. Yeah. I
43:11
feel like, I feel like if you want to really
43:13
call yourself a YouTuber, you have to, you got to
43:16
go through the merch compound at least once. I thought
43:18
I never would though. But this is fun because it's
43:20
a good thing. Give them back. Yeah, it's a good
43:22
thing. Probably makes you feel good. It's great. Yeah.
43:25
It's crazy to hear that you aren't like cooking for yourself or your
43:27
girl that much. It's really a bummer. What are you eating? For
43:31
a country. I order out. I order. I
43:34
order out a lot. I really do. And also
43:36
I have restaurants in Boston that like, cause I
43:38
do travel a lot. So it's nice when I
43:40
go home to just like go to dinner with
43:42
like some friends or just checking back at a
43:44
restaurant and see the chef and hang out and
43:46
mess around there. So I love that, but also
43:48
I do, I do, do take out quite a
43:50
bit. Are you, okay, let me ask you
43:52
this. I'm tired at the end of the day. What do
43:54
you get? We
43:56
just cooked, right? We just cooked for what? Let's
43:58
call it three hours, right? Three and a half
44:00
hours, it's tiring. Your
44:03
legs get tired at the end, your brain gets
44:05
a little bit tired depending, I mean, are you
44:08
a little tired from it or no? I am,
44:10
I totally hear you. I hear you, it's just
44:12
like- It's hot. I love good
44:14
food. And like if someone around me knows
44:16
how to make good food and likes to
44:18
do it, the quality
44:20
of my life really increases. Like my
44:22
fiance plays that role in my life.
44:25
I found out she could cook really
44:28
well after I got engaged to her. It
44:30
was probably the best bonus any man could ask
44:33
for. She had hinted at it
44:35
and then she started, but dude, I'm
44:37
so grateful for it because she provides
44:39
for the family in a way that
44:41
I couldn't. Once in a while, if
44:44
I'm in the mood to cook especially, and I'm just like,
44:47
hey, do you want me to make some dinner tonight? I'll
44:49
whip out some, like the last
44:51
thing I think I made for my girlfriend was like a, it
44:54
was a sort of a Thai curry soup.
44:57
It had mushrooms. It was a super silky
44:59
smooth soup. It had mushrooms.
45:03
I had toasted pine nuts and blended those up in there.
45:06
There were peppers, garlic, all that kind of, some
45:08
Thai curry paste. And then I topped it off
45:10
with these homemade croutons and some toasted pumpkin seeds.
45:12
And it was actually really good soup, and
45:16
I just was in the mood that day. I got home and I
45:18
was like, you know what? I kind of want to cook today. And
45:20
I cooked that, but it doesn't happen that often. I'm
45:23
glad that your girl doesn't just like you
45:25
for your cooking, sounds like. Yeah,
45:28
I hope not. She likes you for
45:30
your Postmates. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All
45:32
the takeout orders, yeah. When you go out to
45:34
dinner, are you drinking? Do you drink it often?
45:36
Not often, no. Do you? Yeah, often.
45:39
I don't, I don't. I didn't even
45:41
really, I didn't really, I think really the first time
45:44
I also, I
45:46
was always a goody two shoes. I
45:48
told you, I think the first time
45:51
I really drank was like after
45:53
senior year of high school. Yeah.
45:57
On the East Coast, that's late. That was me as well. Yeah,
46:00
but then something happened where just like, I
46:03
actually, I hate drinking, but
46:05
I like being tipsy. I
46:08
don't like any alcohol,
46:10
like except espresso martinis, which
46:13
I adore, but besides those, man,
46:16
like the taste of alcohol, it really is just like
46:18
poison. And the after effect is- I
46:20
don't love it, but I do once in a while
46:22
for sure, but not often, not often, but it can
46:24
make a dinner fun. Okay,
46:26
so I'm trying to gauge you, man. Like what
46:28
vices do you have? Come
46:31
on, you gotta like sports. Yeah. You gamble? Sports I
46:33
like. No, I don't gamble. No, you
46:35
guys like sports? I like sports gambling. I
46:38
just do, that's my advice. I'm in Boston, so you
46:40
kind of have to like sports to- Well,
46:43
yeah, if you're in Boston, you also should like sports gambling,
46:45
I'm sorry. That's kind of a part of your economy there.
46:48
You actually- Yeah, I just don't- It really
46:50
is. Wait, where do
46:52
you, when you, okay, just really quick. I'm off the
46:54
hook, bro. I have to. I think my vices travel.
46:57
That would be my vices. No, that's no, but it
46:59
is. I think travel and
47:01
food, like I'll go, I
47:04
almost become blind sometimes on a menu to like, to
47:06
like, you know, I'll care about how a lot of
47:08
things cost in regular life. And then on a menu,
47:10
if I'm just like, if that thing looks really, really
47:12
good and I want to try it, it's like, I'm
47:15
just going to try it. And maybe I'll learn something
47:17
from it. I don't care. How much movement we talking
47:19
about? Cause I'm a mover too. He'll tell
47:21
you. Movement on- How often like moving around the
47:24
corner flying. How many flights? I'm gonna do 120
47:26
this year. I'll probably be
47:28
right around the same. Yeah. Okay. Probably
47:30
a few less. I'm going to say closer to
47:33
a hundred. Where's your favorite place that you visited?
47:37
Ever. Yeah. I
47:41
know that's such a hard superlative, but like, or give
47:43
me a couple. A couple.
47:46
Yeah. I mean, definitely, definitely
47:49
the top one I will say that comes to mind is Japan. I
47:52
really do love it. I like the culture of the
47:54
people. Like it just, the food is fantastic. And like
47:56
I said, their masters of their craft and they can
47:58
become really good at anything. They have one of the
48:00
best pizza restaurants in the world this year. And that's
48:02
just crazy, right? That's cool. So I do like it
48:05
there. I love
48:07
New England, like the East Coast. I like home a
48:09
lot. Well, I can't count
48:12
that as a travel. No, I know that's not so much of a
48:14
travel. Mexico, I think
48:16
has some of the best food in the world.
48:18
Come on. I love Mexico. That's gotta be my
48:20
favorite food. Fantastic food. It's just unbelievable. Did you
48:22
do Singapore? You
48:25
did, right? I have not been to Singapore. So
48:27
I was just there last month and
48:29
they're notorious for having some of
48:32
the cheapest Michelin food carts. Yeah,
48:36
they're called Hawkers. So they're
48:38
like little food halls. And
48:40
I tried this Malaysian dish
48:43
there. Was it amazing? Nasi
48:45
Lamak. It was incredible. Awesome.
48:47
Yeah, Singapore School. But I think my favorite place is
48:49
actually if you would like to go there, I'd love
48:52
to connect you with Finland. So
48:54
I've been to Iceland now,
48:56
which I love. Amazing. And
48:59
I've also been now just to Copenhagen, which
49:01
was also really cool. Very short. See, that's
49:03
a good example of travel, like 24 hours
49:05
there and we left, right? But I
49:08
really wanna go through the rest of it, Sweden. So
49:11
Finland, if you go up to Lapland,
49:13
which is inside proper, inside
49:15
the Arctic Circle, you've done Oslo, she's
49:18
been out there. Bro, like
49:20
stuff that you didn't even, first of all,
49:22
the seafood, like Norwegian crab,
49:24
that type of stuff, which you'll love, but
49:26
also just like stuff I didn't really know
49:28
existed. I knew reindeer
49:30
existed kind of, but the idea
49:32
that they were just running around and would come and
49:34
hang out with you and huddle with you and stuff,
49:37
but then you would have to eat them because
49:40
there's not a lot of other meat there. Yeah, you kind
49:42
of, yeah, sorry about that last part. Beautiful.
49:46
Finland, it's very untapped
49:48
wilderness. Yeah. That's
49:51
like my kind of- I would love to go there.
49:53
I would love to go there. When you're eating a
49:55
dish at a restaurant or just that maybe someone else
49:57
made for you, be honest with me, are you judging
49:59
it? No. Not at all. Not
50:02
really. In my head maybe a little bit, but
50:04
I'm not picking. If they, I meant subconsciously, subconsciously,
50:10
I probably am. I think you have to be, right?
50:12
You're just like, this is soggy or this is delicious.
50:15
But I think like if someone brings
50:17
me a dish at a restaurant, I'm trying to,
50:19
and chefs are often really nice. They'll bring me
50:21
a lot of extra food at a restaurant. Maybe
50:23
just they want, especially for filming, obviously,
50:26
they want you to try everything. They want you to see
50:28
everything. But if the chef knows that someone
50:30
there is really passionate about their food, they want you
50:32
to try it. So oftentimes I'll get a lot more
50:35
food than I bargained for or even ordered. And
50:37
I often feel pretty pressured to have all of it,
50:40
which, but, you
50:43
know, so, because I know how it is. I
50:45
mean, I've been, I've worked in a couple of restaurants
50:47
now and I know how it is. I
50:50
almost cried one night when I was cooking
50:53
at that restaurant in college, because someone sent
50:55
back a steak. I
50:57
was on the grill station. I was on the grill
50:59
station during that time. They sent back a steak. They
51:01
said they needed to cook more. And when you're in
51:03
the heat of the moment in the kitchen, you're sweating,
51:05
it's the middle of rush hour and service. And there's
51:07
a lot going on. Like the last thing
51:09
you need is a wrench thrown into your whole plan. And
51:11
you have to, you already have this whole list in your
51:14
head of you've memorized all the dishes and you have to
51:16
know what's coming up. The chef
51:18
just shouts everything once, right? And you just have to
51:20
lock it away and put it in order. And so
51:22
I had this whole order and I was already struggling.
51:24
I was already underwater. They call it in the weeds.
51:27
I was in the weeds and someone sent back
51:29
a steak and I just wanted to like drop everything.
51:32
Over, were you over or under? They
51:34
wanted to cook more. And I said to the chef,
51:36
I was like, this is right though. This
51:39
is medium rare. And he's like, I know, but I don't care.
51:41
Like cook it more. And I just wanted
51:43
to just drop the plate on the ground and leave. Dude,
51:45
it's just killed me. It feels like
51:47
one of those jobs where like low key, the
51:49
customer is always right, even if they're not, even
51:52
if you gave them exactly what they ordered, like
51:54
what are you gonna do? Like, well, no, you
51:56
said medium rare, but I probably depend on what
51:58
restaurant you're at. That's true. That's true. I mean,
52:01
there are chefs who I've marched
52:03
out to the table. No way. Yeah,
52:05
yeah. So the chef that trained Gordon actually
52:07
is named Marco Pierre White. He's pretty intense.
52:09
I know, I know. I've seen his clips.
52:11
Yeah, he's pretty intense. And he would actually,
52:13
supposedly he would just tell people to leave
52:15
and he's like, I don't want your money.
52:17
Get out of my room. Gangster.
52:20
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't want your
52:22
money. Don't come back. And then
52:24
there's a clip too, that's really funny of him saying something.
52:27
Apparently he made Gordon cry. And I think he said, I
52:29
did not make Gordon cry. That was his choice. He chose
52:31
to cry. I like that. Which is
52:33
really funny. I like that. But so like there are
52:36
definitely chefs out there that I think will probably come
52:38
back and throw the plate at you or whatever. How
52:40
much? More back in the day. More back in the
52:42
day. Back in the day, I think that happened. That
52:45
would happen. Less plate thrown nowadays. Nowadays it's
52:47
much, much nicer and more civil in the
52:49
kitchen. Dude, I'm one of those people that
52:51
has a really hard time being honest about
52:54
food. In what way? Like if
52:56
the waiter comes over and he's like,
52:58
how's your meal? It's amazing. And it's
53:00
horrible. I'll literally, not only will I
53:02
say, it's good, thank you. I'll
53:04
tell him it's the best thing in the world.
53:07
Cause I panic. You kind of go over the
53:09
top. Yeah, yeah. How's your meal? This is honestly
53:11
so good. Tell the chef. So that's really nice
53:13
of you, but I don't think you have to
53:16
go that far with it. I panic. I panic.
53:18
But I think it's nice that you don't complain
53:20
or anything like that. It's also not abnormal. Like
53:22
that's so many people. And it's funny because he'll
53:24
be telling me and I'm kind of the same.
53:26
I think a lot of people are like that. He'll
53:28
be telling me right here. I'll be like, this is
53:30
fucking terrible. How's your food? Honestly, I love food. He'll
53:33
be like, I want to go get something after cause
53:35
this is so bad. I'm still gonna be hungry. I
53:37
can't even eat this shit. And then the waiter will
53:39
come and be like, how's your dinner? And he's like,
53:41
it's so great. That's nice though. That's really nice. But
53:43
I also feel like- I appreciate that as someone who's
53:45
been on the other side of it. And
53:48
hopefully the stuff that I made was
53:51
usually pretty good, but I'm sure some days
53:53
I over salted it or whatever it might've
53:55
been, right? And people
53:57
generally were still pretty nice. If I feel-
54:00
like by telling the chef in
54:02
a nice way, I could actually be doing
54:04
a service for the restaurant because like y'all
54:06
need to know that this particular piece of
54:08
food is way too hard or something. I
54:11
will be
54:14
vocal about it because like I feel like
54:16
a chef would appreciate like genuine candid feedback
54:18
sometimes. If they care, they'll watch the plates
54:20
that are coming back into the kitchen and
54:22
they'll take note, maybe the dishwashers
54:24
will take note of what's being left on all the
54:26
plates. That's what they'll do, right?
54:28
They'll watch and if they're watching and they care, then
54:30
they'll figure that out on their own if no one's
54:32
touching this one part of the plate. Because I
54:35
will be honest with you, I'll get a little
54:37
pretentious here. I'm pretty traveled and
54:39
worldly in terms of food. I do know
54:41
what a good dish is and what a
54:43
bad dish is and I do
54:45
know when I'm right. Like if I'm providing feedback about taste
54:48
or like how salty something is, it's
54:52
only because I am certain this
54:54
is not the way this should be done. Otherwise,
54:56
yeah, it's the best thing in the world that's
54:58
just means it's left like the area of like
55:01
subjectiveness too, because at the end of the day,
55:03
you can't really give someone like feedback on
55:06
like their song being the worst song you've ever heard because
55:08
it's only to you. You know, and food is
55:10
like that, but- But I've done it and the
55:12
chef comes to the table and goes, you were
55:15
right. Like multiple times they go, here's the new
55:17
dish or you're right. Obviously,
55:19
we've all seen like how big
55:21
the bear has gotten. Like people
55:23
are, and rightfully so, are very
55:25
intrigued by the restaurant life. I
55:28
personally spent, my first job ever
55:31
was a dishwasher at TJ McKiff's
55:33
in Milford, Connecticut. I spent a lot of time
55:35
in restaurants and I will tell you, there
55:38
really is nowhere on earth like a
55:40
kitchen and during a rush hour, especially
55:43
in a place like Boston or some,
55:47
not only are you dealing with ego
55:49
from one end, you're dealing
55:51
with just the moment and
55:54
everything that's going on. Honestly, there's a
55:57
huge drug culture and alcohol isn't
55:59
culture. in restaurants, in
56:02
a lot of smaller restaurants, they
56:04
call it the circus. It's a very fiery place
56:06
to fucking exist. That's the first time I ever
56:08
saw any sort of, any kind of drug was
56:10
in the restaurant. What? Yeah, yeah. I
56:12
walked into the bathroom and the chef was doing drugs
56:14
and I was like, wow, that's crazy. Well, dude,
56:17
I have to be honest with you. Okay, so
56:19
I've, I say
56:21
this with privilege. I've had a
56:23
handful of private chefs now. And
56:26
I always told myself, like when I was
56:28
trying to make it, I said, the
56:31
day I am able to hire a private chef, that's when
56:33
I'll be able to say like, I made it. Wow. Because
56:36
I just think that's such an amazing privilege that
56:38
you have in your life. It's really, yeah, it'd
56:40
be amazing. And I
56:43
can say that every single private chef
56:45
I've had is such a unique personality
56:48
and character in a
56:50
way where I've come to realize that chefs are
56:53
artists. Or a hundred percent. Like actual
56:55
artists, they may not be like painting,
56:57
but like their behaviors,
57:00
behavior is that of an artist.
57:02
And a lot of times that artistry does come
57:04
with like a bit of degeneracy. And
57:07
I love it. I personally love it. Well,
57:09
also think about how they operate, right? Is
57:11
most of them are working when everyone else
57:13
is playing, if you think about it. That's
57:16
what's happening, right? And so then that's
57:19
not, that's tough. That's really tough.
57:22
You're in a kitchen at midnight. It's Friday night. Think
57:24
about it to your point. You're looking out over the
57:26
kitchen. Everyone's having a good time partying. So a lot
57:28
of times that rolls into the thing that you want
57:30
to do in the kitchen, I'm sure a lot. And
57:32
also what you just said too, to the artist point,
57:34
which is such a great point. I was thinking of
57:36
it as you were saying it is like, that's
57:39
also another thing that makes taking
57:41
feedback from, no
57:43
offense, but from Logan Paul, that
57:46
much more difficult, right? Because they're like, yo,
57:48
this is my canvas, dog. You're
57:50
shitting on a plate that I've perfected with the team
57:52
here over the past 13 years. You're telling me it's
57:54
too salty. You know what I'm saying?
57:56
And you're not, it happened at that restaurant in Vancouver.
57:58
I think something did happen. I think the chef brought
58:00
us out like his special dish and we were all
58:02
like, yo. Well, I mean,
58:04
that place was incredible. I thought there was some of the
58:07
best costs I've ever had. What was the name of the
58:09
place, man? There was one thing that wasn't, no, you shouldn't
58:11
say it at this point. Okay. They
58:14
remember that he brought out that dish that
58:16
he was like, this is specially prepared from
58:18
the chef. Yeah, because there was one thing
58:20
that we didn't like. But like, that's a
58:22
little awkward. Like,
58:25
I thought like the chef is being so generous bringing
58:27
out this dish that we didn't order, but he made
58:29
for us and he's like, this is his like go
58:32
to and all of us were like, You didn't like
58:34
it? Yeah. I didn't say anything in that case, obviously
58:37
not. Yours and his is in my
58:39
palates clash quite often. I mean,
58:41
we've got, dude, I brought you to some places
58:43
and been like, yo, this is like far and
58:45
away known to be the most notoriously great place
58:47
in the city. And you'll be like, no, it's
58:49
just terrible. But it's not just me saying that.
58:52
It'll be you and Nina, but then everybody, and
58:54
there's group faith there. And then everybody
58:56
else who reviewed the restaurant will say the opposite.
59:00
Listen, at the end of the day, it's at the end of
59:02
the day. No, but at the end of the day, all I'm
59:04
saying is this, it is subject. It is subject. Totally. You're
59:06
right. You're right. And like,
59:08
dude, like I think that maybe the dish that he brought
59:11
us might've been like a tartare. Yeah,
59:13
it was something like that. Some people just also
59:15
don't you like it? Sometimes. Or like,
59:19
But Nina loves tartare. Do you like carbon? I've
59:22
been once, yeah. To New Yorker,
59:24
they have a carpaccio there, for example,
59:26
that's that I adore. Some
59:28
people just don't, you know the one I'm talking about. And
59:30
some people just don't love it. Do you have an inherent
59:32
bias against chains like that at all?
59:35
Like a carbon or a catch? No.
59:38
No? Cause like, I love their food.
59:40
Coronas. But I know some people kind
59:42
of categorize it in like
59:45
mainstream chain restaurants. So they immediately.
59:47
Well, so what happens, right? Is a shuffle often
59:50
started one place, and if it gets really successful,
59:52
and they kind of franchise a little bit or
59:54
kind of branch out, then the chef will move
59:56
to the new ones and the quality will often
59:58
fall at the first place. They have. They have
1:00:00
really consistent quality. The thing is, is like people
1:00:03
that eat at that level that are spending,
1:00:05
you know, for a group of four people,
1:00:07
700 to a thousand dollars for dinner, right? They
1:00:10
like, they have this pretentious like bougie-ness a lot
1:00:12
of times and they'll like to act like as
1:00:14
soon as a place becomes a small chain of
1:00:16
five to seven, it's too mainstream
1:00:18
now. So I'm gonna go to, you
1:00:20
know, Angelini just opened an LES and
1:00:23
I'm gonna go there instead, right? It's like kind
1:00:25
of a thing, but Carbone has done an incredible
1:00:27
job and they've
1:00:30
really like brought us, they
1:00:32
kind of had like the spicy, spicy.
1:00:34
Like rigatoni. Rigatoni was kind
1:00:36
of the dish that blew them off and they
1:00:39
do, I think they do a great job across
1:00:41
their chain. I mean, I
1:00:43
think they've got seven or so now
1:00:45
and they're international as well.
1:00:47
So they've got Saudi. I love Carbone. Have
1:00:50
you been to Saudi yet? Like
1:00:52
the actual place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You
1:00:55
should come there. I got actually, you should come there
1:00:57
for re-opsies. We're going to Dubai in a couple of
1:01:00
days. Dubai is so cool. In a couple of days.
1:01:02
Oh, maybe, okay. We're going to Dubai in three days.
1:01:04
We'll talk after. You're
1:01:06
not leaving Boston? To live?
1:01:09
Yeah. Not right now. You love it?
1:01:11
So I had four grandparents before COVID, then I lost
1:01:13
three of them during COVID, which was tough, but I
1:01:16
have one grandparent left who I'm super close with my
1:01:18
grandmother. So I see her all, like I'm going to
1:01:20
see her on Thursday. I see her all the time,
1:01:23
every time I'm home between travels and she
1:01:25
lives in Boston. So that's one reason to
1:01:27
stay. And then my parents are here,
1:01:29
my family's here. My brothers are spread around. Like
1:01:31
two of them speak Italian and they're in Italy
1:01:33
right now just living there for fun. We're
1:01:36
almost, we almost have our dual citizenship for
1:01:38
Italian and the American
1:01:40
password, which will be really fun once we can travel
1:01:43
around Europe with that. Are you a hundred percent Italian?
1:01:45
No, I'm like a quarter Persian,
1:01:48
a quarter Italian, a quarter like
1:01:50
from the UK. And then- Like your last name, bro. You
1:01:52
could be a mob boss. You think so? Did
1:01:55
you have money? These coasters are such mots,
1:01:57
dude. I didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a
1:01:59
good mix. Yeah,
1:02:01
maybe in a different life. Yeah. Yeah.
1:02:03
Yeah. You're too nice to be
1:02:06
a mob boss. But you never know. Maybe something
1:02:08
just sort of. That's true. I
1:02:10
don't know. You also have the Celtics too,
1:02:12
which is a good reason. I mean, bro, they're. The
1:02:14
sports are really fun. I love, I mean,
1:02:17
you've probably seen maybe too, we've done a couple of things
1:02:19
with Tom Brady because his whole team fell back in Boston,
1:02:21
which is pretty cool. So I love the Pats. You
1:02:24
did some with Tatum. Yeah, we've done some with
1:02:26
Tatum. Too tall. Yeah, true. We're going through
1:02:28
the roster. We've done a couple of things with Chara, who's
1:02:30
the old captain of the Bruins. So
1:02:33
what do you miss it? I'm a big red
1:02:35
Sox. I play hockey like two, three nights a
1:02:37
week in Boston, which is fun when I'm home,
1:02:39
when I can ice hockey. It's a rough place
1:02:41
to play ice hockey, isn't it? It's fun though.
1:02:43
It's awesome. Do you love the movie, The Town?
1:02:46
I love the movie. That is such a
1:02:48
good, Boston dude. Boston is the best. Boston
1:02:50
is awesome. You know why I like it
1:02:52
the best though? This is a sort of
1:02:54
a sneaky small part. The airport is seven.
1:02:56
Logan. Yeah. Logan
1:02:58
International. Yeah, it is really close.
1:03:00
Seven minutes from my apartment. I fly all the time. I get
1:03:03
home. Boom. I'm home in 10 minutes.
1:03:05
That's amazing. It's the best. His
1:03:07
name's Waleed. He's very cool. Okay, cool. I go watch basketball
1:03:09
games. He's just an overall nice guy. We should go to
1:03:12
a Celtics game too. You got to let me know. I
1:03:14
would love to do that. But yeah, I mean, Sports City,
1:03:16
it's the best. Yeah.
1:03:19
What about food there? Family, the food's good. It's good. Good
1:03:21
New England seafood. Family, food, sports are great. Airport.
1:03:26
And yeah, I mean, I got a little, I got a good
1:03:28
little setup there. What about weather?
1:03:30
Isn't weather like a big thing? It's cold. It's
1:03:32
a bummer. It's a bummer in the middle of
1:03:34
the winter when it's just cold and wet out.
1:03:38
It could suck, but I get
1:03:40
to travel a lot. Yeah, you
1:03:42
can pop everywhere from Logan. What's
1:03:45
that one main Italian spot in Boston
1:03:47
where you go up the stairs, it's
1:03:49
like on the second floor. Everybody
1:03:52
goes there, there's Portnoy's pictures on the
1:03:54
wall. There's like Strega.
1:03:56
I don't know which one you're thinking of. Because
1:03:58
there's a whole north end. And so like, there's
1:04:00
a lot of- Forget everything I ever
1:04:02
said, kid. Okay. Just keep doing what
1:04:04
you're doing. Okay. What's your end game? Do
1:04:06
you know? Like what's your plan? I don't know. What's
1:04:08
your plan right now? I don't know. in
1:04:11
advance, I would say. Wow. This space changes really
1:04:13
fast. Yeah, it does. And I just like to kind of enjoy the ride.
1:04:15
It does. So I'm actually not sure. That's
1:04:17
so interesting. I don't know. I don't know. I'm
1:04:20
surprised. I feel like a restaurant has to be in your
1:04:22
future. I would love to do that. Yeah. It's
1:04:24
just hard. It's hard. When
1:04:27
the time is right, I would love to
1:04:29
open a restaurant. Yeah, because you have the
1:04:31
built-in promo. I've talked to, I've gotten close
1:04:33
before and then it just hasn't happened yet.
1:04:35
Are you concerned at all about either A,
1:04:37
burning out or B, becoming stale at all
1:04:39
on YouTube? No,
1:04:41
no. I mean,
1:04:44
the most
1:04:46
important thing I think is for me to try to just
1:04:48
kind of keep it sustainable in terms of
1:04:50
the stress levels, which are really, really high. So I've
1:04:52
kind of like trained myself to how can I push
1:04:54
it a little bit higher, which
1:04:57
is probably not the best way to think about it. But I
1:04:59
just sort of feel like there's gonna be stress. So let me
1:05:01
just figure out how to deal with it. That's the worst part
1:05:03
about it all is the stress. It just sucks. But
1:05:07
I mean, I work, I really
1:05:09
like to work too. So I will work a lot. I mean,
1:05:11
I work a lot, but it's
1:05:13
fun. You know, I like it. Can
1:05:15
you break down for me what exactly
1:05:17
the stressful part is? I
1:05:20
think this travel, I hate flying. So the
1:05:22
travel is tough, but I
1:05:25
kind of want to, I need to travel.
1:05:27
I wanna go see new food, new places,
1:05:29
new things. So I need that part of
1:05:31
it. What's your flying looking like, by the
1:05:33
way? Occasionally, I've gotta go rally to Miami
1:05:35
on Thursday. It's an hour and a half
1:05:37
flight. There's a chance. But if I'm
1:05:39
flying, in the past week I've been
1:05:41
back. I was here, I was in New York last
1:05:44
week. Flew back to LA for two days
1:05:46
and then flew back. I'm back across the
1:05:49
country constantly. That's one of the few things
1:05:51
I meant to mention that I will spend
1:05:53
money on. It's like comfortable seats on the
1:05:55
airplane. What's your preferred carrier? Well,
1:05:58
JetBlue is out of Boston. So I like that. That's why
1:06:00
you're a huge hub. So you have mint
1:06:02
guy. I'm a big JetBlue person. And
1:06:05
by the way, it's perfect for the show. Cause
1:06:08
I go, me and you have very similarities on
1:06:10
what we're like rating and stuff. Cause their lines
1:06:12
are a huge thing for me. And I've got
1:06:14
the whole breakdown. I would say mint is probably
1:06:16
the best domestic provider. They went from having none
1:06:18
to having mint, which is the best. And what's
1:06:20
the reason? Besides your
1:06:23
nice pod, their food is very, very
1:06:25
good on in mint.
1:06:28
They have a very cool offering with like
1:06:30
an artistic, like curated menu. It's actually very
1:06:32
good food. Except, except, I don't know if
1:06:34
you know John and Vinny's in LA, the
1:06:36
Italian restaurant. It's like a, it's like our
1:06:38
street Italian restaurant. John and Vinny's does their
1:06:40
meatballs and ricotta on Delta. So when you
1:06:42
fly out of LA, you can actually have
1:06:44
their meatballs. Okay. And Delta,
1:06:46
Delta one's good. Cool. I
1:06:49
prefer JetBlue food over any airline in the
1:06:51
US for domestic and then internationally, I think,
1:06:53
obviously you can start getting some really good
1:06:55
food on, yeah, Emirates and
1:06:58
Qatar. And there's some really good ones out
1:07:00
there for food. But yeah,
1:07:02
yeah, flights, I hate flying. So
1:07:04
that's a big piece of my stress. What do
1:07:06
you have? The actual like, yeah, I hate it.
1:07:08
Going up in the air and all of it.
1:07:10
How do you calm yourself down? I,
1:07:13
it's so like, I need, I need to sit on the
1:07:15
right side of the airplane and I. Only the right side?
1:07:17
Yeah, I only like the right side of the airplane. Why?
1:07:20
I don't know. It just happened. What do you
1:07:22
mean, how? I have no idea. It's just a
1:07:24
thing. And then I stay up really late before
1:07:26
my flights the night before so I get myself
1:07:28
tired and then I can try to sleep and
1:07:30
it's the worst. I hate flying. I think about
1:07:32
it. I have a playlist, this sounds crazy. I
1:07:34
have a playlist for turbulence when the turbulence gets,
1:07:36
that's going crazy. I open my phone, I have
1:07:38
a special playlist. What's up, what are some of
1:07:40
the songs? Oh man, I
1:07:43
don't know. We bring the boom. We
1:07:45
bring the boom to you. Yeah. Do
1:07:48
you think that you're, that fear of flying
1:07:51
directly correlates to the value you put on
1:07:53
your life? Because like for
1:07:55
a while, when
1:07:57
I get on a plane now, I'm just like,
1:07:59
bro, if it goes down, it. fucking goes down,
1:08:02
dude. Like, what are you gonna do about it?
1:08:04
You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't ever
1:08:06
think. And also, are you somewhat influenced by these
1:08:08
zero crashes due to turbulence statistic? Oh
1:08:12
yeah, I try not to think about anything.
1:08:14
On very, in mint. They have a very
1:08:16
cool offering with like an artistic, like curated
1:08:18
menu. It's actually very good food. Except, except,
1:08:20
I don't know if you know John and
1:08:22
Vinny's in LA, the Italian restaurant. It's like
1:08:24
our street Italian restaurant. John and Vinny's does
1:08:26
their meatballs and ricotta on Delta. So when
1:08:29
you fly out of LA, you can actually
1:08:31
have their meatballs. And Delta,
1:08:33
Delta one's good. Cool. I
1:08:36
prefer JetBlue food over any airline in
1:08:38
the US for domestic and then internationally.
1:08:40
I think obviously you can start getting
1:08:42
some really good food on Emirates and
1:08:44
Qatar. And there's some really good ones
1:08:47
out there for food. But yeah, yeah,
1:08:49
flights, I hate flying. So that's
1:08:51
a big piece of my stress. What do you
1:08:53
have? The actual like, yeah, I hate it. Going
1:08:55
up in the air and all of it. How
1:08:57
do you calm yourself down? I, it's
1:08:59
so like, I need, I need to sit on the
1:09:01
right side of the airplane and I. Only the right side?
1:09:04
Yeah, I only like the right side of the airplane.
1:09:06
Why? I don't know. It just happened.
1:09:08
Wait, me how? I have no idea. It's just a
1:09:10
thing. And then I stay up really late before my
1:09:12
flight, the night before. So I get myself tired and
1:09:14
then I can try to sleep and. Whoa. It's
1:09:17
the worst. I hate flying. I think about it.
1:09:19
I have a play, this sounds crazy. I have
1:09:21
a playlist for turbulence when the turbulence get. No,
1:09:23
that doesn't sound crazy. I open my phone, I
1:09:25
have a special playlist. What are some of the
1:09:27
songs? Oh man. I
1:09:30
don't know. We bring the boom. Boom.
1:09:32
We bring the boom to you. Yeah.
1:09:35
Do you think that you're, that fear of
1:09:37
flying directly correlates to the value you put
1:09:39
on your life? Because like
1:09:41
for a while, I when
1:09:44
I get on a plane now I'm just like, bro, if
1:09:46
it goes down, it fucking goes down, dude. Like what are
1:09:48
you gonna do about it? You know what I'm saying? Like
1:09:50
I don't ever think, and also are you
1:09:52
somewhat influenced by these zero
1:09:54
crashes due to turbulence statistic?
1:09:58
Yeah, I try not to think about anything. I'm just gonna know you should
1:10:00
know you should know I think you should think about that I'll
1:10:04
give you some some things to help you cope One
1:10:07
of them is there have been zero
1:10:09
crashes because of turbulence in domestic flights in you
1:10:12
know, you're scared I'm I could tell no, what
1:10:14
do you mean? What do you mean? This is
1:10:16
your but you're talking about crashes So a statistic
1:10:18
I'm a statistics guy Okay, you can feel however
1:10:20
you want to feel but if there's a zero
1:10:22
percent chance statistically that anything's gonna happen when you
1:10:24
hit turbulence Especially if your
1:10:26
seatbelts on would agree with me though that in the
1:10:28
moment of intense turbulence you might or if Nick I
1:10:31
or if I hate Or
1:10:33
if I hate it, you might need to text a few
1:10:35
people and say yeah for sure just in case that that's
1:10:37
one also No domestic flight
1:10:39
crashes in general the United States in like the
1:10:41
last four or five six seven years I forget
1:10:43
what the size is. That's not helpful for me.
1:10:45
I know nobody I can't make this conversation at
1:10:47
a step. We need some it's that you said
1:10:49
four five six seven I don't know what I
1:10:51
don't I'm asking Kathy, but keeper.
1:10:53
I'm sorry. I'm sorry There hasn't been a crash
1:10:56
in the last three four five When was that
1:10:58
last commercial domestic airline flight in the United States
1:11:00
not flight? Five seconds
1:11:02
ago. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have
1:11:04
to Operated
1:11:07
in 1991 dude,
1:11:09
like you're good. What was it? TWA hundred? No,
1:11:13
what that's not right What did
1:11:15
you ask I said when was the last
1:11:17
commercial domestic airline flight in the United States?
1:11:20
Think read that question one more time. There's
1:11:23
the last commercial domestic And
1:11:26
the last airline flight in the United States was a 91
1:11:31
Nothing let me get back in the saddle not
1:11:33
helping When
1:11:36
I meant to say when was the last Commercial
1:11:39
airline flight that crashed in the
1:11:41
United States. Oh The
1:11:49
most recent major commercial airline crash in the
1:11:51
United States was on February 12 2009. Come
1:11:53
on, bro Come
1:11:55
on, bro. That's 15 years 16 years bro. 16 years are good 16
1:12:00
years you're good. Well,
1:12:02
16 years bro. And here's
1:12:04
another thing that might help you cope, ready? Cause
1:12:07
Nina also has this flight anxiety, like I
1:12:09
have very bad. She
1:12:11
has this flight app, a
1:12:14
flight tracker app, flight radar,
1:12:17
where she can see all of the flights that are
1:12:19
going on and track any flights. So she sees a
1:12:21
plane in the air, she'd be like, oh, that's coming
1:12:23
from here and it's landing here. And
1:12:25
I think it makes her feel better about
1:12:27
the amount of flights that are actually taking
1:12:29
place. She can see all these little plane
1:12:31
emojis, logos on the thing. And like,
1:12:34
bro, statistically you're good. So if you can
1:12:36
look at it as like a mind over
1:12:38
matter thing, which truly, bro, it is, truly
1:12:41
it is. Or my second suggestion
1:12:45
is get blackout drunk so that you're
1:12:47
hung over on the flight. And sometimes
1:12:49
you'd actually be okay with it crashing.
1:12:51
I haven't done that. I have,
1:12:53
and I'm not kidding. Sometimes I'm like, damn, honestly just
1:12:55
put me out of my misery. But then there's all
1:12:57
other people. So that's actually not the solution. Yeah, I
1:12:59
haven't tried that one. Yeah, but- Do you ever go
1:13:01
in cars? Because cars
1:13:03
are very dangerous. Oh,
1:13:06
do I just ever go in a car in general?
1:13:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been in a car. You're driving home
1:13:10
after this? I'm driving home after this. Super dangerous. But
1:13:12
what I was gonna say is like, I would
1:13:14
probably choose an eight hour car
1:13:17
ride over
1:13:19
an hour and a half flight. Listen,
1:13:22
dude, what you're saying makes sense. Like,
1:13:24
think about, have you ever been sitting
1:13:27
on a plane and you're like, I
1:13:29
am trapped in a floating toboggan, an
1:13:31
aluminum toboggan right now that is flying
1:13:34
through the sky using
1:13:37
highly flammable jet
1:13:40
fuel. Also relying on two strangers you've never
1:13:42
met before to make sure you get there
1:13:44
safely. And in a very stressful day and
1:13:46
age, like who knows what Tommy from fucking
1:13:49
Michigan is wanting. This doesn't, it definitely doesn't
1:13:51
help. No, but you're right. I
1:13:53
get it. And also- I thought you said we
1:13:55
weren't gonna- I just were relating to your concern,
1:13:57
but mask the stats. No, last point. You're fine.
1:14:00
point no turbulence related crashes
1:14:02
now as of the past
1:14:04
like year there's been a tremendous amount of turbulence
1:14:06
related deaths but that's because they don't have their
1:14:08
seatbelt on but who the freak where's their seatbelt
1:14:11
mid-flight no but head no heavy turbulence you got
1:14:13
put that seat you want to know where it's
1:14:15
happening where you don't tell me
1:14:17
don't tell you okay I
1:14:20
don't want to I don't tell you no I'll be good it's
1:14:22
somewhere I just what I will say it's over a major body
1:14:24
of water I'll be good without worries I'm not gonna tell you
1:14:26
yeah I'll be but there was one recently and and dude I
1:14:28
watched a video of a dude I watched
1:14:30
a video of a dude that somehow ended
1:14:32
up in the baggage compartment I'm
1:14:34
not kidding the turban you can find this
1:14:37
video online the turbulence so strong they had
1:14:39
to pull him out oh come full body
1:14:41
come on you go back to the conversation
1:14:43
I'll find the video what go
1:14:45
ahead go gosh you're sorry did we get that
1:14:49
that was gangster that was cool
1:14:51
as well I think I literally
1:14:54
before I did it I thought if
1:14:57
I get this that's gonna be cool that was
1:14:59
really good it was he like it's like it
1:15:02
happened in my mind and then we're happening real
1:15:04
life really cool yep anyways I'm sorry
1:15:06
bro I'm sorry for doing all that but you're
1:15:08
fine Nick be
1:15:10
all right I mean helicopters never
1:15:13
been in one would you probably
1:15:16
not I don't like those are those I don't
1:15:18
know about those so much I just did New
1:15:20
York to the Hamptons a couple couple weeks ago
1:15:22
and I've ever been in one oh
1:15:24
did you know can you go to the Hamptons no
1:15:27
you just said that cuz okay if I had said Cape
1:15:29
Cod you wouldn't have made that voice I went to Cape
1:15:31
Cod no I think Hamptons
1:15:34
and then hi Osama this Detroit I
1:15:37
flew my helicopter did it right
1:15:39
I went to eight mile mmm
1:15:42
anyways bro that's it that's all
1:15:44
we got for you today nice
1:15:46
yeah wait no say you
1:15:48
say something yeah anything could be anything
1:15:50
just anything at all yeah I'm thinking
1:16:00
That's fine, take your time. We have nowhere to
1:16:02
go. There's no rush hour up
1:16:04
here in fucking Canada. Canada.
1:16:08
I mean, we're close, right? We're pretty close. Okay.
1:16:11
Watch out for bears. I thought we were gonna talk about
1:16:13
the Mr. Beast challenge. I think we should. Oh my God,
1:16:15
we started the video with that. I think we should. We
1:16:18
just never talked about it. Never talked about it. Yeah, what
1:16:20
a crazy experience. First of all, let's be
1:16:22
clear. You didn't run out on
1:16:24
purpose. I know that for a fact. Yeah, no,
1:16:26
no, complete accident. We don't sleep there overnight and
1:16:28
get no sleep and tough it
1:16:30
out like that. And then you just run out.
1:16:33
That's not on purpose. No, why would I do
1:16:35
that? Also, I know Jimmy didn't just tell you
1:16:37
the challenges. No, he absolutely did. No, I know.
1:16:39
You can also ask him. Anyone can ask him. I know he
1:16:42
wouldn't do that. I just know he wouldn't do that. Yeah, I
1:16:44
know he didn't do that. So I will support you here on
1:16:46
that. I know, I will vouch
1:16:48
that that did not happen. There are still
1:16:50
some people to this day that refuse to
1:16:53
let that reality sink in their minds. I
1:16:55
think you're just competitive because I
1:16:57
think when we saw each other early on or
1:17:00
maybe partway through, we knew we were both very competitive and
1:17:02
that's why we made a good team later in the challenge. But
1:17:04
I think you're just competitive and that's why you made it
1:17:06
that far in the challenge. That's one reason. We got a little
1:17:08
lucky too with some of the challenges. I was gonna say,
1:17:10
man, no, there was some luck, but it wasn't all. There
1:17:13
was not, it was not all luck. I have to
1:17:15
be honest. I wouldn't consider
1:17:17
myself as competitive
1:17:19
as I am strategic. You think so? Well,
1:17:22
either way, so that got you to the
1:17:24
end, right? I think you
1:17:27
didn't run out on purpose though. Nick,
1:17:30
dude, I threw that plate. I
1:17:32
know, I saw it all. But I turned around
1:17:34
and it was your look that
1:17:37
made me realize what I had done. I think
1:17:39
your hands were above your head and I seen
1:17:42
your big ass blue eyes wide open and I
1:17:44
was like. I felt
1:17:46
bad. What the fuck? I'm not standing
1:17:48
next to Nick anymore. Dude, I'm not kidding.
1:17:50
That was probably the moment in my
1:17:52
life where I felt the most stupid. Everyone
1:17:55
was just looking at me like, no, it's
1:17:58
subjective. You're not me. I know. I
1:18:01
just thought it just seems like nah
1:18:04
nah nah I
1:18:06
mean look I felt stupid a lot but
1:18:09
that dude thanks did you enjoy that experience
1:18:11
though meeting all the creators thought it was
1:18:13
really fun it was right everyone's super nice
1:18:16
too yeah almost everyone almost everyone yeah
1:18:21
yeah but uh would you would you do another mr.
1:18:23
Beast challenge yeah I'd probably do
1:18:25
another one it was fun if he invited you I
1:18:27
don't know how much I loved sleeping over it
1:18:31
became a little campy it's kind of disgusting
1:18:33
also with the porta-potties I told Jimmy I
1:18:35
said bro I said two things a I
1:18:38
think you need to like mmm
1:18:41
like why don't we get like
1:18:43
actual catering like real cater like
1:18:45
why are we living these conditions bad on purpose
1:18:48
it was bad all this stuff it's just like
1:18:50
it did it just it felt like you you
1:18:52
know you dropped what three four
1:18:54
million on this video why is the why
1:18:56
is the last thing you skip out on
1:18:58
it like the living conditions and like the
1:19:00
porta-potties yeah it is on purpose he's trying
1:19:02
to like bro there's a million dollars
1:19:08
on the line I'm sorry it's not gonna be easy
1:19:10
yeah like for all of his challenges like even
1:19:12
I seen hit like the amp some of the
1:19:15
Amazon contestants like complaining about what happened yo there's
1:19:17
there's five million fucking dollars on the line did
1:19:19
you think that was gonna be easy yeah like
1:19:21
I think it was trying to make it difficult
1:19:23
but there was porta-potties and that
1:19:25
they would wheel them in yeah and they just like
1:19:28
they left it overnight right and yeah also next to my
1:19:30
bed I think it was and it was so small like
1:19:32
you probably had trouble fitting oh it's tough to get in
1:19:34
there so you couldn't open and close the door do you
1:19:36
think it's weirder to like
1:19:38
go to the porta-pottie at like a music
1:19:41
festival at Coachella or like if
1:19:43
you know that you're smelling kai shina sana shit
1:19:45
like do you think that makes it weirder like
1:19:47
if you know that one of the like
1:19:50
are you asking me that yeah yeah or just
1:19:52
like you just know that a creator that like
1:19:54
you saw Logan go in the porta-pottie before you
1:19:56
go in there just fucking rank yeah there was
1:19:58
that one person who had some stomach issues he
1:20:00
said that day and it was bad. It was,
1:20:02
it was, it was landing, landing. I felt so
1:20:04
bad for him. I felt just gonna out him
1:20:06
like that, huh? Well, honestly, bro, fuck him. Cause
1:20:08
he accused me of cheating, for cheating, of cheating
1:20:10
as well. Like, bro, everyone who thought that, fuck
1:20:12
you. I got like, especially
1:20:15
the ones who accused me of cheating and
1:20:17
then cheated themselves. Assholes. I'm done. I'm
1:20:19
done. You had to
1:20:21
get it out. I just don't, I don't, I don't. He hasn't gotten it
1:20:23
out yet. Trust me, we're going to handle it elsewhere. We're
1:20:25
just not going to bring this type of
1:20:28
beef into your cooking. Thank you. Stick to
1:20:30
the beef Wellington. Oh, we didn't even
1:20:32
talk about any of the records, bro. What, what, what Guinness
1:20:34
book records do you have? Rattle Smough. We
1:20:36
have, we're, we're about to work on the
1:20:38
world's largest chocolate bar. We have largest beef
1:20:41
Wellington with Gordon. We've got most
1:20:43
fast food restaurants. I think some of these have been broken
1:20:45
by the way. So I don't know which ones, but most
1:20:47
fast food restaurants visit in 24 hours. We
1:20:49
have. Cake Pop? Yeah, world's largest
1:20:51
cake pop that I did with like Linja. How
1:20:54
big was the cake pop? I
1:20:56
don't remember. Who
1:20:59
eats it? 44, 44 pounds, maybe? That's
1:21:03
a huge cake pop. 44 pounds? Who eats it
1:21:06
after you make this giant cake? You have to donate it.
1:21:08
You cannot. No, your cake pop
1:21:10
weighed 97 pounds. 44 kilograms. Oh, wow. Is
1:21:13
it 44 kilograms? It's a, a, nah, that would
1:21:15
be too much. Really? No,
1:21:17
yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right. Okay, I was like, I don't think
1:21:19
I- 44 kilograms. 44 kilograms, 90 something
1:21:22
pounds. Damn. Almost a hundred pounds, right? Talk
1:21:25
to us about this chicken nugget. The world's largest
1:21:27
chicken nugget? 46 pounds. Yeah, this
1:21:29
world records will not let you waste any food they
1:21:31
watch. And if you waste the food- So wait, what do
1:21:33
you have to do with it? You have to donate it or
1:21:35
like package it up. What? It's
1:21:37
hard. It's hard. Who's eaten 90 pounds of
1:21:39
cake pop? Well, it's just cake. It's just cake and
1:21:41
frosting mixed up together. So you just can send it
1:21:44
off to like a couple of different places that'll take
1:21:47
donations. So what did you do with the 57 pound
1:21:49
beef Wellington? Like sliced
1:21:51
it? Same thing. Yeah, probably just sliced it and quartered
1:21:53
it and then just put it in plastic wrap and
1:21:56
sent it off. Yeah. the
1:21:59
records are fun. It's just like a fun
1:22:01
little challenge. Yeah. Yeah.
1:22:03
Guinness has gotten cool. Guinness has gotten super
1:22:06
cool. As well. I tried
1:22:08
to set a world record when I was 11 on
1:22:11
a pogo stick. Okay. And
1:22:13
I went through all the submissions, all of it,
1:22:15
only to get like, ultimately never responded to. Not
1:22:17
even denied, it just like never responded. And now
1:22:19
you know that we got a little clout. I
1:22:21
think they pay attention a little bit. And they're
1:22:23
like, oh, look, what do you wanna do? They
1:22:25
probably answer your phone calls now, huh? Yeah, yeah.
1:22:28
And I have to be honest with you, now that they're
1:22:30
answering, specifically with my Pokemon card,
1:22:32
they were just so cool with it. I
1:22:36
don't know, like I had a little PTSD from when
1:22:38
I was 11 because I really wanted to set this
1:22:40
pogo stick record. A lot of people grow up and
1:22:42
just have this dream to get in the Guinness Book
1:22:44
of World Records. It's such a cool book. Yeah. This
1:22:47
dude, Sensr, he broke
1:22:50
the pull up record. Yeah. In
1:22:52
24 hours, 9,250 reps. You
1:22:55
saw it happened? Cameron Haynes, son, I
1:22:58
think he's trying to beat that record. Well, guess what? He
1:23:01
did it. And like he
1:23:03
had trained for it. He's like the pull up guy. They
1:23:06
disqualified him because he did it for
1:23:08
charity. You can't
1:23:10
be associated with any organization or charity. I
1:23:12
don't know if they ended up rolling that
1:23:14
back, but the last time I checked, he
1:23:17
was disqualified. That's ridiculous. Because he was donating
1:23:19
per pull up to some like charity.
1:23:22
That's ridiculous. It was like a full on like
1:23:24
donation situation. They were like, well, since you're aligned
1:23:26
with the charity you're disqualified. They are very by
1:23:28
the book. And if you mess up one thing,
1:23:32
they'll pretty much pull it. We've failed them before. So.
1:23:34
Oh, you have? Mm-hmm. Damn.
1:23:37
Yeah. Do you know the last question on my end
1:23:40
and then I'll rest my case. Sure. Also,
1:23:42
I should say this. Thank you so much for
1:23:44
getting into specificities on food with me. I've
1:23:46
been waiting to do this. Yeah, it's good. And sorry to
1:23:48
the audience members who don't like this type of granular. Food
1:23:50
is great. I believe
1:23:53
that there's more food
1:23:55
or there's a little bit of a food audience
1:23:57
than each and every one of us. I think it just depends on
1:23:59
what. thing you're talking about, but people love
1:24:02
food. It's one of the most naturally
1:24:04
occurring dopamine and
1:24:07
necessities in life. And that's why I love it
1:24:09
as a niche for you. Yeah. Pizza,
1:24:13
where's the best pizza on
1:24:15
the planet? In your eyes
1:24:17
currently. Currently
1:24:19
for me, it's a, and
1:24:22
I have a little bias because of Rhode Island,
1:24:24
it's a restaurant in Providence called- Holy shit. Alforno.
1:24:27
How do you feel to live on that island
1:24:29
by yourself? Oh no. Okay, I thought you were
1:24:31
gonna agree with me. No, there can't be a,
1:24:34
have you had all the New York spa? I mean, you're
1:24:36
so close. I was really excited for a second. I thought
1:24:38
you were gonna be like, that's my favorite. Well, I've just
1:24:40
never heard. I mean, I can't doubt you because you're a
1:24:42
big food guy. Please, seriously. It's called Alforno.
1:24:45
I have no tie to that. I worked there
1:24:47
because of how much I loved it when I
1:24:49
was growing up in Rhode Island. But
1:24:52
this isn't some sort of plug that like, I don't like
1:24:54
it. No, of course. It's
1:24:57
grilled pizza. Oh yeah. They invented
1:24:59
it there. No, no, no, it's, you got it.
1:25:01
What does that fucking mean? Okay, so- Because
1:25:03
what you're saying is offensive right now to
1:25:05
a lot of people. A lot of people.
1:25:08
Hear me out, okay? When
1:25:10
I think about food, I think about just the
1:25:12
balance in whatever food we're discussing. This
1:25:14
has everything perfectly balanced. It has,
1:25:16
the dough is chewy, but also has a
1:25:19
nice crust to it. So you have both
1:25:21
of those kind of playing off each other.
1:25:23
Then it's simple. It's simple ingredients. There's some
1:25:25
three, a blend of three cheeses. There's some
1:25:28
simple tomato sauce splatted on the pizza. It's
1:25:30
a messy sort of pizza. So it's not
1:25:32
pretentious or fancy. And then
1:25:34
there's fresh, nice fresh herbs that could kind of
1:25:36
give that like bright pop to it. And
1:25:41
it just, it's just so, so
1:25:44
well rounded. Then you got that char. So
1:25:46
which is that nice extra flavor from the
1:25:48
char from the grill itself. It's grilled over
1:25:50
coal. It's
1:25:52
an unbelievable, unbelievable pizza.
1:25:54
So that will- You're gonna grow up on this?
1:25:57
Well, I'm telling you
1:25:59
that will go down. When I ever as my favorite pizza ever,
1:26:01
no one's gonna give me a slice that I like more.
1:26:04
I mean, I get spoiled with a lot of good
1:26:06
food. So literally less than seven days ago, I was
1:26:08
in Italy at a place called Ima Sagnelli, which was
1:26:10
like top two pizza restaurants in the world. Number one
1:26:12
last year, number two this year. It's
1:26:14
fantastic. It's amazing. It's Neapolitan style pizza. And
1:26:16
it's just like, you take a bite of
1:26:18
it and it's hot and it's cheesy. And
1:26:20
it just cooked for only 30 to 40
1:26:23
seconds in the oven and it's done. And
1:26:25
it's amazing to watch and it's
1:26:27
delicious. But this one from, from Alforno from
1:26:29
Providence is gonna go down as my best.
1:26:31
But that's because you have a relationship with
1:26:33
it. A lot of people, if they've
1:26:35
had it, they'll- Well, I'm gonna go
1:26:37
get it, right? But what I'm trying to say to
1:26:39
you was like, if you had asked me, you know,
1:26:42
what my favorite amusement park in the world was when
1:26:44
I was eight, I wouldn't say Disney World. I would
1:26:46
say the one at Orange Avenue School because it has
1:26:48
the funny plastic slide that goes to the right and
1:26:51
left. You know what I'm saying? Like you have a
1:26:53
tie to this grilled pie. He's
1:26:55
saying it can stand on its own. Well,
1:26:58
the reason why it's hard for me is
1:27:00
because I'm from Milford, which is a part
1:27:02
of New Haven County and New Haven- So
1:27:04
I'll agree with you. And New Haven has
1:27:06
less pizza offerings, but better overall quality of
1:27:08
pizza. Whereas New York has a much more
1:27:11
widespread amount of pizzas. Sorry,
1:27:14
New Haven has better, the best pizzas
1:27:16
probably in the country. I would agree with you on
1:27:18
that. Let's say the world. Less of a spread, but
1:27:20
they have some of the best in the world or
1:27:22
in the country, especially
1:27:24
New York. That's what we all think of,
1:27:27
right? New York has a better overall average.
1:27:29
That's what I would say. Absolutely. So
1:27:31
I agree with you on that. And I know you probably wanted me to
1:27:33
say one of the three places in- Oh,
1:27:35
I like that you know that there's three.
1:27:37
So you know your New Haven pizza. I
1:27:39
mean, I just, this is my job, right?
1:27:41
I gotta know this stuff. Pepper Sally's modern.
1:27:43
But, but, but, but, but Alforno and that
1:27:45
grilled pizza, I just think it's such a
1:27:47
well-rounded, it's- I'm going. It's really- I will
1:27:50
go there. It's something special and it's different,
1:27:52
but it's just like, it's pizza. It's definitely
1:27:54
pizza and it, and it's really- So
1:27:56
next time I make a D gen run to
1:27:58
Mohegan, cause I do that quite all. How
1:28:00
far is it from Ohegan to this pizza place? How
1:28:02
far is it to Providence? I don't know. Yeah,
1:28:05
okay. Probably 30 minutes. I'll do it. I'll
1:28:07
get it done. Just let me know. They don't take
1:28:09
reservations. You show up, whatever. But like, yeah, let me
1:28:11
know if you want to go and I'll help you
1:28:13
get there. And then, and it's really special. Wow.
1:28:16
Yeah. Alforno. Yeah, yeah. Wow.
1:28:19
Yeah, it's very good. It's very good. What's your
1:28:21
cookbook called for those who want to cook like
1:28:23
Nick D? Knife Drop. Knife Drop. Oh,
1:28:26
that's cool. Oh, that's cool. Oh yeah, that's right.
1:28:28
Nice job. Oh, I don't
1:28:30
even. Is it close to my hand
1:28:32
to actually end up in it? It could end up
1:28:34
in your hand if you wanted to. It's fun. It's
1:28:36
a fun cookbook. Yeah. Yeah,
1:28:38
it did better than I thought.
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