0:00

You have made an entire career making

0:02

fun of high net worth people. When

0:04

you're bullying up, who people who are being

0:06

bullied feel celebrated. So when I make

0:08

fun of billionaires for being billionaires, they're

0:10

like, billionaires, they're like, oh. They it. it. I if

0:12

I say absurd things in this eloquent

0:14

British accent, people will resonate. The more

0:17

you spend, the more. more you spend, the

0:19

more you make. And people were like, yes. Stad is a

0:21

small a small town in the mountains

0:23

of Switzerland. Became sort of a sort

0:25

for the for the world's There's like a

0:27

barrier to entry for peasants. Peasants

0:29

is a strong word. Well, that's how

0:31

they certainly a at me and Mike.

0:33

Well, What did they originate from? It's

0:35

basically and Mike. displeasure of things, even if

0:37

I'm having a great experience. like

0:40

permanent Zacharific, he's one of the greats

0:42

online right now. The girls, mean

0:44

the girls he gets, experience. Sacarific. manifested his

0:46

way into being the cool guy. Roasted

0:49

the CEO of

0:52

Coinbase George had no

0:54

idea who he

0:56

was when Georgia roasted the CEO of

0:58

coin base George

1:00

had no idea

1:03

who he was

1:05

so much how you start a

1:07

fire with and you can't I

1:09

don't know what that means. I

1:11

we're rolling. We're say that We should

1:13

not start with that. It's too late. Great. I with to

1:15

tell you. Nothing don't know what to

1:17

tell you. Nothing more it's than that,

1:19

Hey Yeah, it's facts. Hey, guys,

1:21

welcome back to number the number one

1:23

podcast in the world. Thanks for

1:25

listening, watching, viewing, and subscribing. and subscribing.

1:27

It's Stagh .m. start so early us start

1:30

so early because he's got things

1:32

to do, apparently. an intro because I

1:34

me do an intro, because I do owe

1:36

you a proper intro, because you're one

1:38

of my best friends. That guy across from

1:40

me me. one of my best friends. He

1:42

goes by goes by Stad Guy on Instagram. He has

1:44

the highest Per capita.

1:46

His following is the highest

1:48

concentration of high net worth

1:50

his following? is

1:53

the highest concentration of high net

1:55

worth individuals and billionaires of any

1:57

social media page in the world.

1:59

This guy, dude, I'm so proud

2:01

of you a... friend and as a content creator, I

2:03

love you. Key plays Constance, who's

2:05

old money and Colton, who has

2:07

new money, my guy, not in

2:09

character, welcome the Stad guy. Yeah.

2:11

Or as we call him, Stadty.

2:14

Stadty. I love him. Dude, I

2:16

am so happy to have you

2:18

as a guest on the podcast,

2:20

not just as a homey, but

2:22

as a person who's made waves

2:24

in the social media area. Thank

2:26

you. Thank you. I realize something.

2:29

I'm shorting out a little bit.

2:31

I'm smiling. I'm smiling right now,

2:33

just so you guys know. What's

2:35

up with the mask? Want to

2:37

tell him? I got influenza. That's

2:39

why we also had to do

2:41

this so early, because Mikey... went

2:44

to Basel, he's one of the

2:46

people you make fun of, he

2:48

went to Basel and got influenza.

2:50

I can't wait to get into

2:52

it. Yeah, there was a lot

2:54

of influenza going around this year,

2:56

it was a big thing, yeah,

2:59

but uh, influenza, but uh, I

3:01

had to make it out here

3:03

for this episode because I also

3:05

equally, ironically, in a fireplace couch

3:07

setting. Where? When? In shoddy. Oh,

3:09

oh, in shod. So one of

3:11

our famous shod episodes, it was

3:14

the worst vacation of my life

3:16

ever. Me too. I smashed my

3:18

face. Oh! That's still secretive, kind

3:20

of. I mean, we can talk

3:22

about it. I'm not going to

3:24

show the video. Why not? Would

3:26

you show it? Eventually, I think

3:29

so, but it's... Would you show

3:31

it right now? Would you show

3:33

it right now? You don't want

3:35

to? I'd rather not. Do we

3:37

talk about it right now, about

3:39

that moment? I mean, we're here.

3:42

I mean, but if you talk

3:44

about it, we don't show it.

3:46

Really? Just fucking talk about it.

3:48

You smashed it. You smashed your,

3:50

you smashed your face. Okay, here's

3:52

what happened. Okay. So, we were

3:54

in Stad in Switzerland. Logan wanted

3:57

to go curling. And instead of

3:59

curling. He said. gonna, oh, Stadge,

4:01

look, we're gonna. He just, how did he

4:03

do that? By like, both of

4:05

you two, two strikes or adding. I do.

4:07

Yeah, you already didn't want it

4:09

out just bleep it out every time. We're,

4:11

let's play Quidditch play I

4:13

instead. And I was like,

4:15

oh, that's an amazing idea. sticks

4:18

the curling broom between his legs the curling broom

4:20

between his legs and just barely squeezes it

4:22

together with his knees. And no And no matter how

4:24

strong your knees are, are, like. The leverage

4:26

isn't there. It's not there. not there. No.

4:28

it says and my says grab my grab my stick

4:30

So I the stick, stick my weight on it.

4:32

weight on it on my face, fracture my

4:34

cheek. my cheek and Horrible it was

4:37

was violent in front of girls and

4:39

stuff. Yeah in front of my Yeah,

4:41

in front that's why she's why she's my ex saw

4:43

it then she's walked out crazy. Yeah, we we felt

4:45

so bad for you you bro. You're

4:47

such a good kid such a you come

4:49

from you come from a family in London you

4:51

got that accent What is

4:53

that the, what is it called?

4:55

The international school accent, like, I

4:57

don't think people who

5:00

you. you really know who you are.

5:02

So it's nice to kind of peel

5:04

back the veil the veil and just have

5:06

you as you. you. When people meet you

5:08

in real life. they know your Do they know

5:10

you're six foot seven? answer, no. The

5:12

short answer, thing they say The first thing they

5:14

say know you're I didn't know you were

5:16

so tall. So tall. say, I also they say you

5:18

didn't know you can smile because I'm always. Frowning

5:21

in my videos. but but I'm

5:23

pretty smiling life. life. What is the what

5:25

did the the frown from like?

5:27

Why is the frown why is the

5:30

like rich people? rich people like

5:32

So the frown started when I was filming

5:34

my first ever video. my first ever

5:36

video And it's it's

5:38

basically permanent Displeasure of

5:40

things. Displeasure of things Yeah, nothing is enough.

5:42

I always enough. Mmm. I always want

5:44

better even if I'm having a

5:47

great experience You'll barely see a

5:49

see a grin through the the frown.

5:51

like, you know, you're like kind of smiling where you're like

5:53

kind of smiling, but you're still frowning.

5:55

It's like, even if it's great, it's

5:57

not good enough. And that's And that's the

5:59

world. of high net worth people. It's

6:01

so funny because you have made

6:03

an entire career off of making

6:05

fun of high net worth people

6:08

and your audience is so niche.

6:10

At least it started niche and

6:12

you know I've been doing this

6:14

content thing forever and a lot

6:16

of people have come in and

6:18

out of the camp and you've

6:20

been my friend since you were

6:22

17 and I was 19. We

6:24

met at the MTV movie awards.

6:26

Pre-date, predates me? Yeah, like one

6:28

of my oldest friends, the only

6:30

older friend is Evan, who's up

6:32

there. He was asleep in the

6:34

upstairs. And bro, when we met,

6:36

immediately just hit it off. And

6:38

you said something to me and

6:40

you're like, it was this time

6:42

next year. And it was like

6:44

a little motivating thing for you

6:46

and I had to go do

6:48

our things and then come back

6:50

and go this time next year.

6:53

And I always thought you were

6:55

so. Like, charismatic, there was something

6:57

about you that was natural on

6:59

camera as well, you weren't afraid

7:01

of the camera? Thank you. And

7:03

then you started this character, by

7:05

the way, I interpreted it as

7:07

Gistad guy. Gistad. What the fuck

7:09

is Gistad? And how did you

7:11

start growing this page? Making fun

7:13

of rich people. So, first of

7:15

all, thank you for your, for

7:17

your praise. It means a lot.

7:19

I started Stad guy nearly six

7:21

years ago now. So four years

7:23

after we met. And honestly, you,

7:25

watching you grow and watching, you'd

7:27

be comfortable in front of the

7:29

camera, was a big part of

7:31

my comfort with the camera eventually.

7:33

So, Stadge, or Stadge, or Gistad,

7:35

as Mike calls it, Stadt is

7:38

a small town in the mountains

7:40

of Switzerland. I had never been

7:42

there growing up. I went there

7:44

for the first time a year

7:46

after making the page. It's the

7:48

colluded, it's about two to three

7:50

hours away from the nearest major

7:52

airport in Geneva. And it was

7:54

one of the first towns in

7:56

Switzerland to have luxury hotels a

7:58

hundred years ago. And there was

8:00

also a... a boarding school called

8:02

La Rosa, which you may have

8:04

heard of. It's a fantastic boarding

8:06

school and happens to be very

8:08

expensive, that has a winter campus

8:10

in Stad. So luxury hotels, crazy

8:12

boarding school started to bring a

8:14

lot of high spending residents who

8:16

would visit their kids and stick

8:18

around. But because of this very

8:20

old school ski town, you also

8:22

have a lot of building laws.

8:25

So people couldn't build these crazy

8:27

homes. from the outside, they would

8:29

start building homes for themselves that

8:31

looked very modest on the outside,

8:33

but had crazy, like, five-level basements

8:35

in these crazy homes. And it

8:37

became sort of a hideaway for

8:39

the world's elite and wealthy who

8:41

wanted to be away from other

8:43

people and just do their own

8:45

thing hidden away in the mountains

8:47

of Switzerland. And it's pretty inconvenient

8:49

to get to. So you don't

8:51

get much foot traffic. People just

8:53

mind their own business. It's extremely

8:55

expensive. And it's really absurd more

8:57

than anything. It's absurd. It's absurd.

8:59

It's absurd. We went there. Just

9:01

shod is like, well what, like

9:03

a percentage of like the world's

9:05

entire countries. The amount of high

9:07

net worth individuals there in that

9:10

little ski town is insane. It's

9:12

probably the most in the world

9:14

for sure. We went there just

9:16

to try it out for New

9:18

Year's. luxury and the opportunity and

9:20

the blessing to go everywhere and

9:22

I want to talk about it

9:24

later in the episode. Who has

9:26

the flu? Is it Mirio? Because

9:28

that's the 15. I was drinking

9:30

last night with Evan. We were

9:32

drinking whiskey? What's good, bro. Smoking

9:34

a little bit. You should put

9:36

his mouth on just hanging out.

9:38

That was the only time out

9:40

of all the times through Saudi,

9:42

through all these different places I've

9:44

ever felt like I was actually

9:46

with the Illuminati. Like for real.

9:48

When I was in the basement

9:50

of whoever that Russian oligarch's house

9:52

that paid Getta like to

9:55

$2 million to

9:57

do a 30

9:59

minute set and

10:01

Madonna was there.

10:03

Like. Like, if there

10:05

is a home for the Illuminati, it

10:07

is in shock. I mean, trust me,

10:09

I'm as shocked as you are. And

10:11

hence this entire thing. Like, a really

10:13

crazy place. It's... It's absurd in every

10:15

shape and form. And it's actually a

10:18

contradiction in every shape and

10:20

form. It's like Swiss farmland nature,

10:23

billionaire hideaway Farmers

10:25

wearing like traditional Swiss

10:27

clothes, furs and

10:29

crazy outfits. understatement.

10:33

with overstatement. It's like the extremes on

10:35

each side. and

10:37

just makes it so absurd as a

10:39

place. is it rooted, in the

10:41

end, it rooted in Swiss tax law

10:43

at the end of the day

10:45

as to why it attracts? I mean.

10:48

Like, that's a pretty well -known

10:50

thing, right? Like, as to

10:52

why it's so attractive to

10:54

European. Asian money. I think it's a

10:56

small part of it. A small part of it?

10:58

Yeah, because there's a lot of places people

11:00

can tax optimize. Lots of There's a lot of

11:02

tax -free places in the world. But Switzerland generally

11:04

is considered to be like one the... the... the...

11:06

pretty good, but people who... I

11:10

gotta get one good one out. You're fine. fine. good.

11:12

time I Wait,

11:16

would you want to try one of these hydration

11:18

beverages from prime? I'm already drinking one. Well, that's the

11:20

energy version I'm ruining the episode. 18 plus. Well,

11:23

good. you're good. Don't worry. Sorry. worry Thank

11:25

you. God bless you too. You're going to need

11:27

it. God it. too.

11:30

Yeah, it's, it's... People who

11:32

have homes there usually have like six other

11:34

homes. Right. So they have a home in Stad,

11:36

So actually... A boat, a place in Monaco,

11:38

a place in London, and they just jump between

11:41

cities. And between a private airport there. They fly

11:43

out of the private airport. If you're flying

11:45

commercial into Stad, like me. they're us.

11:47

It's actually super inconvenient to get there. Yeah,

11:49

Oh my God, it's horrible. You land, land You

11:51

two two half hour train, you drive, it's

11:53

a pain. if people are... Everybody laughs at

11:55

you when you get there. Exactly. There's like

11:57

a barrier to entry for peasants. Absolutely. Peasants

12:00

is a strong word. Well, that's how they

12:02

certainly looked at me and Mike. we went,

12:04

at me and Mike. no, no, no, went... Oh, so much.

12:06

no, Mike, and George, Me, when we went, George,

12:08

by the way. went, like, by the way,

12:11

Successful in America like I

12:13

think we command a little bit

12:15

of like, I we command a little bit of respect.

12:17

I think we command a they were bit of

12:19

were the jammers I found us

12:21

funny. showed you a joke Yeah, for sure. It

12:24

for sure existed. It existed. It

12:26

wasn't disrespectful, but it certainly was

12:28

was... They were entertained by the

12:31

They were entertained by the oddity

12:33

how dressed and all how we to be fair

12:35

to them, I think you guys both played be

12:37

fair to them, I think you

12:39

guys both played into that. you guys

12:41

course. I've seen you guys being

12:43

environments where you're and and collected

12:45

and you also play that hats. Well, I'll

12:47

on down on it. So if

12:49

I know that someone is is like,

12:51

is interested in it or slightly

12:53

embarrassed by it, I'll be like,

12:56

hey, do you want to

12:58

go shopping down at by it, I'll be like,

13:00

hey, do you want to go shopping down at

13:02

Lauren's Piano? Laura play into it, you

13:04

know what I'm saying Piano? think

13:06

it's funny Piano? Like, quickly into it. You

13:08

was the value We brought

13:10

like everyone else there has actual

13:12

real value money I monetary funny. old

13:14

money as well Which is

13:16

completely different than new money. I

13:18

found like Like, actually new

13:21

new money in America? is worse

13:23

respect-wise old money in old money

13:25

in Europe. the kids A lot of the

13:27

kids were like really respectful act, they knew

13:29

how to act, even though, you know,

13:31

their dad's worth $30 billion. found that But we

13:33

found that if we could make these

13:35

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13:37

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No, but that home exists everywhere.

14:33

That's an important lesson to learn

14:35

for anybody watching this right now

14:37

who is looking for some sort

14:39

of like accessible value from this

14:41

episode today because we're gonna be

14:43

talking a lot about billionaires and

14:45

private jets and Starino and a

14:47

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14:49

So like if you are looking

14:51

for some value, there is a

14:53

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14:55

billionaires out there and being funny

14:57

and having good energy and being

14:59

positive and putting that type of

15:01

energy out there is always a

15:04

way that you can win over

15:06

a room. So that's actually what

15:08

you've done. How did you get

15:10

involved in these circles of high

15:12

net worth individuals coming from a,

15:14

I mean you're well off, you

15:16

had a great childhood, your parents

15:18

are still together like all admirable,

15:20

but how do you get in

15:22

these circles? First of all, I'll

15:24

acknowledge my privilege. I grew up,

15:26

as you said, privileged and adjacent

15:28

to these environments. So a lot

15:30

of the Stadt world, even though

15:32

I didn't go there growing up,

15:34

I was exposed to growing up

15:36

in London and going to similar

15:39

ski towns. So I always saw

15:41

how those sorts of people operated,

15:43

but I was also always raised

15:45

to read between the lines and

15:47

see the absurdity and see how

15:49

the money doesn't actually buy happiness.

15:51

it can help people in many

15:53

ways, but it can also destroy

15:55

in many ways. So I'm blessed

15:57

with that perspective. And I realize

15:59

that. Comedy is

16:01

a great lubricant. for conversation. It It

16:03

really is. know, it's it's like you

16:05

can be at dinner dinner telling a great

16:07

story. and no one wants to

16:09

no one wants to listen. a You throw

16:12

in a couple of jokes and it's a

16:14

it's great story, right? story. And Stadge is kind of of

16:16

that. think think you watch my you watch my

16:18

videos, you're rarely laughing out loud. It's usually

16:20

like a little chuckle chuckle. Because is my

16:22

choice of language and not my choice of

16:24

my choice of The product is a

16:26

bit more like more like journalism in

16:28

a way. in a I'm kind of talking

16:30

about luxurious experiences, products, places, and

16:32

using comedy just to make it more

16:34

digestible and to make it more

16:37

relatable. to make talk a lot about I also

16:39

now you were talking about, those ways of

16:41

operating. talking about, learned a lot

16:43

about etiquette and manners from you.

16:45

and manners such a you. You're such a

16:47

Like, gentleman. gentleman. pour me water, water,

16:49

out chairs for people. for people. Like it's

16:51

always simple, it's that European class that

16:54

I as a very American

16:56

boy from Ohio. boy from Ohio didn't

16:58

really grow up with you. No, very

17:00

well very now, partially because of you, because

17:02

I wanted to ask you just a

17:04

simple question. just a Because you have seen

17:06

it and you just mentioned it. you

17:09

have seen it buy happiness?

17:11

mentioned it. Does money buy I think.

17:13

I think, it's This is

17:15

probably a very common answer, but but money is

17:17

an an incredible tool that can

17:19

make the good better and the bad the

17:21

bad worse. So it it depends on

17:23

on people's I think. think. In a a

17:25

place like Stad in particular, in you have

17:27

people that have all the money in the

17:29

world and they choose to live a very

17:31

wholesome, modest life with their family. modest life do

17:33

very charitable things, very build beautiful

17:36

homes that build built clearly for them

17:38

and not for status or for putting

17:40

out anything. And then you have

17:42

the inverse where people And then very crazy

17:44

lives with. live very crazy

17:46

lot of with a lot of vice this

17:48

life of abundance life of abundance and

17:51

like gluttony. And money can make a

17:53

lot that a lot worse. lot worse. if you

17:55

you choose that path I think

17:57

it's whatever your I think it's whatever your mindset

17:59

is. You guys are... great testament to that. I've

18:01

seen you when you were living

18:03

in the grove and you had

18:05

very little to lead a life

18:08

of excess and now that you

18:10

can lead a life of excess

18:12

you have this beautiful wholesome life

18:14

with your wife and daughter and

18:16

you've chosen a good path so

18:18

I think you're a testament to

18:20

that answer. Yeah I personally I

18:22

would rather cry in a lambo.

18:24

I agree with that for sure.

18:26

I think money is it's an

18:29

amazing thing. There's data. There's data

18:31

and studies about this, by the

18:33

way. I've always been very interested.

18:35

And I think we've talked about

18:37

them on the show before. There's

18:39

this, there's a median earnings that

18:41

represents the highest saturation of happiness

18:43

in the United States. And that

18:45

number obviously changes by location and

18:47

so on and so forth. In

18:49

Connecticut, I remember when the study

18:52

came out, I think it was

18:54

somewhere around like 95,000 a year.

18:56

And as you move down from

18:58

that, you lose the ability to

19:00

cover the things that you need

19:02

as an individual or as a

19:04

family member, right? Health care, food,

19:06

certain basic luxuries, television, maybe a

19:08

trip every here and there. And

19:10

as you move away from that

19:13

median, as you move away from

19:15

that average, whichever one it is,

19:17

I can't remember. you are now

19:19

dedicating more, having to dedicate more

19:21

time to earn that money. And

19:23

so at the end of the

19:25

day, unless you're talking about some

19:27

hyper affluent child who has gifted

19:29

the money, there actually is a

19:31

right amount of money to be

19:34

making, to find happiness, because to

19:36

be completely honest with you. You

19:38

and I, we come across, I

19:40

mean, you're pretty locked in nowadays

19:42

as dad, but we're outside and

19:44

we run through, we run across

19:46

so many freaking people. And I'll

19:48

be honest, there's a bountiful amount

19:50

of unhappiness in the scene that

19:52

we play in, dude. Bountiful. Like,

19:55

like all these people out there

19:57

watching this are thinking of themselves,

19:59

like, wow, I was only able

20:01

to a. X amount of dollars

20:03

man it just doesn't seem to

20:05

translate into any long-form meaningful happiness

20:07

because I don't see it and

20:09

I don't know you know I

20:11

think that money won't necessarily buy

20:13

happiness but the lack of money

20:15

will very likely by sadness and

20:18

misery and and pain yeah so

20:20

I think that that's a non-negotiable

20:22

people can't take care of the

20:24

people they love and take care

20:26

of themselves then It's a whole

20:28

different game. Do you think the

20:30

blanket statement you got to get

20:32

that bread up is applicable? For

20:34

sure. I think that there's what's

20:36

important from zero to ten. No,

20:39

to be honest, what gets you

20:41

from zero to ten and how

20:43

you feel from zero to ten

20:45

and ten and ten and ten

20:47

to a hundred and a hundred

20:49

to a thousand are very different

20:51

sets of problems and considerations and

20:53

emotions. When I talk about shad

20:55

and these absurd communities, this is

20:57

like... really like

21:00

way beyond necessity. This is excess

21:02

in every shape and form. There's

21:04

people that indulge in excess, even

21:06

for good or for worse, like

21:08

a bottle of water in Stad,

21:10

it's like 30 francs, which is

21:13

like 32 dollars. Oh, it's the

21:15

most expensive city I've been to,

21:17

by a lane slide. There's nothing.

21:19

My whole stick is about excess

21:21

and craziness and and that world.

21:23

So my two characters. are a

21:26

push and pull between old money,

21:28

new money. So I have constance,

21:30

who is tradition. He's always frowning,

21:32

constance. And he's tradition, manners, values,

21:34

a lifelong of modesty, a life

21:36

lived through modesty, a rarely accepting

21:39

change. He has things he loves.

21:41

and he wants to stick to

21:43

those things, he rarely accepts new

21:45

things in his life. And he's

21:47

representing that archetype of that old

21:49

money person you're talking about. who's

21:52

always disappointed. And this cousin Colton

21:54

that I also play is, yeah,

21:56

he's the face that we were

21:58

more exposed to more often. He's

22:00

also comes from this world of

22:02

High Nightworth life and he's, loves

22:04

change, loves hype, loves modernity, loves

22:07

celebrating color. Travis Scott, Mikey's. And

22:09

that's the push and pull. And

22:11

they're both fictional characters, but they're.

22:13

ambassadors of real life, people and

22:15

archetypes, right? So this constance type

22:17

is addicted to excellence. And I

22:20

think most people know someone who

22:22

has that addiction, who buys a

22:24

Macbook pro instead of a Macbook,

22:26

just to check their emails and

22:28

gets a Porsche turbo instead of

22:30

a Porsche, instead of a Porsche,

22:33

instead of a Porsche instead of

22:35

a Porsche, to go to the

22:37

grocery store. And that's not exclusive

22:39

to... the jet set. And that's

22:41

what I think is applicable to

22:43

all of your characters is that

22:46

aspirational greatness is a globally, is

22:48

a global thing that expands across

22:50

all socio-economic barriers. Like everybody wants

22:52

the best of everything. I mean

22:54

you go and do when I

22:56

first made... Money sell and drop

22:59

I want to buy luxury shit.

23:01

You know what I'm saying? You

23:03

want to go and buy Jackie

23:05

people people? People spend their first

23:07

money to get on a Rolex

23:09

or or Louis or whatever You

23:11

know what I'm saying? Like sure

23:14

that part is very applicable and

23:16

that's why and I'm curious how

23:18

you do how you do this

23:20

That's why I think you're starting

23:22

to see this growth on this

23:24

page Where where it's starting to

23:27

leak really well outside of the

23:29

outside of the jet set and

23:31

outside of the you know the

23:33

the the upper echelon because people

23:35

are aspirational and people want to

23:37

know about these places So how

23:40

do you stay? How do you

23:42

stay true to the global elitists?

23:44

Well, also is satisfying your new

23:46

trickle-in audience that kind of is

23:48

getting and kicks out of it,

23:50

but also likes to learn. So

23:53

the first thing I will say

23:55

is, when you said, kind of

23:57

make fun of this life, when

23:59

you're bullying up, you guys will

24:01

see this at dinners when you're

24:03

telling jokes, it rarely feels like

24:05

you're bullying. People who are being

24:08

bullied feel celebrated. So you could

24:10

be like, oh, look at Mike,

24:12

he's always getting the best shoes.

24:14

He's like, oh, stop it, but

24:16

like, but keep it coming. You

24:18

know? You're like, he loves it.

24:21

billionaires for being billionaires. They're like,

24:23

oh, they want to listen in.

24:25

They love it, you know? So

24:27

they're feeling celebrated and people who

24:29

are not in that position feel

24:31

hurt because they're like, oh, this

24:34

is obviously crazy. The staff that

24:36

work for these people, these people

24:38

have crazy teams of staff at

24:40

their homes. They love the content

24:42

because like finally someone's making fun

24:44

of my boss. So there's this

24:47

healthy trickle-down effect. I think that...

24:49

People either feel celebrated or feel

24:51

heard and it's a nice balance.

24:53

Sorry, I'm laughing over here because

24:55

you're talking about bullying at dinners

24:57

and I was thinking about shod.

25:00

When George made that joke to

25:02

Prime Arms. Yeah, when George, when

25:04

George, when George absolutely roasted the

25:06

CEO of coin base. Founder. And

25:08

George had no idea who he

25:10

was. Well, you see you have

25:12

so much money and you can't

25:15

buy hair. He did not say

25:17

that. Yes, he did. He really,

25:19

that's probably, they've never even spoken.

25:21

He just, he picked the ball

25:23

guy at the end of the

25:25

table. Yeah, no, he didn't seem,

25:28

well, I don't know if he

25:30

didn't really laugh at it, but

25:32

like, I think he, I think

25:34

he, it was a funny joke.

25:36

It was a funny joke. Everyone

25:38

else laughed, so he might have

25:41

been like. The rich people that

25:43

you're making fun of are poking,

25:45

you're not making, you're poking fun

25:47

of the absurdity of their lifestyle.

25:49

And objectively it is absurd. For

25:51

99% of the world, their lifestyles

25:54

are absurd, bro. Some of the

25:56

things we saw when we were

25:58

in shod. Blue my mind. 100%

26:00

absurd. It's not real life. But

26:02

they're not, they don't get ultra-offended.

26:04

No, they don't. I mean, every

26:06

once in a while you'll get

26:09

someone who gets offended. And honestly,

26:11

I'm happy about that. Because I'm

26:13

trying to raise awareness about the

26:15

absurdity. Unfortunately, a lot of people

26:17

watch the videos that are literally

26:19

about them. And they're like, oh,

26:22

that's so not me. It goes

26:24

right over their heads. You know,

26:26

but it's literally them. So it's

26:28

literally them. So it. where the

26:30

conversation in my eyes gets interesting,

26:32

because I'll approach this now as

26:35

like social media strategist. When you

26:37

first started making these videos, they

26:39

would get a little bit of

26:41

attention. The numbers weren't incredibly crazy.

26:43

Some of them would go viral,

26:45

but they spoke to the people

26:48

that were describing these high net

26:50

worth individuals. And the growth at

26:52

first was slow, but potent. And

26:54

you actually, I think, proved something

26:56

in social media in that... who

26:58

your audience is can have extreme

27:01

value. And even though at the

27:03

time, your following wasn't huge, the

27:05

people that were following you had

27:07

a lot of fucking money. So

27:09

you were a rare case where

27:11

you could speak to the most

27:13

wealthy individuals on the planet, even

27:16

though your following was like 150,000,

27:18

200,000, and you realize you had

27:20

a little hack there. Because for

27:22

the right brand attached to you.

27:24

That person would then buy what

27:26

you're telling them to buy, what

27:29

you're wearing, i.e. Laura Opeana. Dude.

27:31

Lawrence Piano. A high... How would

27:33

you even describe this brand? Like

27:35

a quiet luxury brand? Like a

27:37

my... I think I would describe

27:39

Laura Piano as understated luxury. Made

27:42

for the people who wear it,

27:44

not the people who see it.

27:46

Which is a rare thing in

27:48

luxury, these days. and you've been

27:50

on the LP train for a

27:52

while, for a while, like five

27:55

years ago, you're like, you gotta

27:57

get these shoes, right? And then

27:59

longer, I feel like longer. I

28:01

got a long time. And so

28:03

then you started this page and

28:05

how did the partnership with LP

28:07

happen where now you're essentially like

28:10

an ambassador for them. And dude,

28:12

like, you alone have, how, tenexed

28:14

their sales? because of Stadgei, because

28:16

of the audience you're speaking to.

28:18

Is that an accurate assessment? That's

28:20

a big answer. I think that

28:23

my storytelling about Laura Fianna was

28:25

definitely part of the growth, but

28:27

there's also some tailwinds of quite

28:29

luxury becoming a trend and me

28:31

being well placed as a spokesperson

28:33

for that. I think also the

28:36

brand that some incredible things and

28:38

their products are incredible. So all

28:40

I did was maybe. put a

28:42

little flashlight towards it over the

28:44

years. 10x. It's been a cool

28:46

journey with them. It's been cool

28:49

to watch. Yeah. Because, you know,

28:51

in my eyes, I was always

28:53

taught like most reach, most impressions,

28:55

most people possible, but you focus

28:57

on the people who have money.

28:59

And if they're paying attention to

29:02

what you're doing, you can really

29:04

move the needle and you've proven

29:06

that. You have partnership with Audemar

29:08

Piggae, AP, AP. So on the

29:10

topic of the. the smaller niche

29:12

audience. I think that my strategy

29:14

is maybe unique to social media,

29:17

but it's typical in all other

29:19

industries. Like to think of restaurants.

29:21

Not every restaurant has a McDonald's

29:23

strategy. You know, there's luxury restaurants

29:25

forever. And they just want less

29:27

customers who pay more versus more

29:30

customers who pay less. So it's

29:32

actually a pretty normal way to

29:34

run business. It's just unique to

29:36

social media. Because social media by

29:38

its very nature is supposed to

29:40

be open access to everyone. And

29:43

because of the language I used

29:45

in my videos, there was this

29:47

automatic barrier to entry. It was

29:49

like a door for members club,

29:51

because someone who gets it would

29:53

watch and say, I understand

29:56

what this is

29:58

about and they

30:00

keep watching. about and

30:02

they and people who don't get it would stop watching. who

30:04

don't get it would stop I

30:06

had this had this front of comprehension

30:08

and relating to this crazy

30:10

world. to this crazy world made my

30:12

concentration of these followers huge. followers huge. So

30:14

yeah, like like you said, I I didn't

30:16

have that many followers. many followers, but

30:19

they They happen to be big ticket

30:21

followers. and my first My first

30:23

couple of videos I started talking

30:25

about lower piano Laura piano because it's... It's

30:27

a real -life love for this

30:29

character I'm portraying. The real I'm portraying.

30:31

obsessed with Laura Stad guy I grew

30:33

up with lower piano. And I guys,

30:35

like my around these my own dad

30:38

in many ways, dad's, my own lot

30:40

of people around me who were. in many ways.

30:42

A lot of with this understated brand

30:44

and the excellent materials and the same thing

30:46

for Audenac Piguet with the and the What did

30:48

you say just then? And the

30:51

same thing for Odnar Piguet. with

30:53

the watches. What how you pronounce

30:55

it. How? then? Odmer Piggy. Remember this video?

30:57

The The video we did together? Oh,

30:59

yeah. the watch video. The watch video. The video. The watch

31:01

Audemars you go. you go. all, you you

31:04

speak French. That's why you're doing all

31:06

that. I do speak French. that. I do

31:08

back to your point about the

31:10

international school accent. your point about the I've

31:12

seen a lot of things about this on Yeah. I've

31:14

seen a lot of things the international school

31:16

tic-tac, but the international school

31:18

accents go to international schools

31:20

to are taught in and

31:22

are taught in a based system. system.

31:25

but but they're exposed to American pop

31:27

culture pop to and watch Disney Channel.

31:29

So they get the American twang. so

31:31

they get the this British. twang Mixing

31:34

with this a third language

31:36

at home. at home that they

31:38

speak natively, which could be something something

31:40

Middle Eastern, Italian, French. So

31:42

they get this mixed up accent so very

31:44

typical in international schools. And that's why you

31:46

sound like that. Yes. in what else do

31:48

you speak? schools. And that's why you

31:50

sound like that. Yes. But what else do

31:53

you like Keeping some mystery. He's keeping

31:55

keeping a mysterious... But you speak more languages.

31:57

I speak more more you're Whoa, you're

31:59

like that? like that. It's nice. I think

32:01

the mystery of my page adds

32:03

a lot of fuel to the

32:05

fire. Yeah, but you're here. You

32:07

ruined it. I'm here just speaking

32:10

as myself and talking about the

32:12

process. I think this is a

32:14

good segue, actually, because a couple

32:16

minutes ago, you brought up this

32:18

analogy of having this like gate,

32:20

this barrier to entry being able

32:23

to understand the content and people

32:25

who didn't get it would just

32:27

turn away, right? Yeah. But something

32:29

that happened. was that party inside

32:31

the gates that the people who

32:33

didn't get it just turned away

32:36

from got so big and so

32:38

lively and everybody that was looking

32:40

inside that at first would just

32:42

turn away. They were like, wait,

32:44

now I kind of want to

32:46

get it. Right. I want to

32:49

understand the hype. Why are all

32:51

these people going crazy? Why are

32:53

they trying to shop at Lauren's

32:55

pianos and where automation pickets? You

32:57

know what I'm saying? How do

32:59

you, I guess I kind of

33:02

asked this question, but I want

33:04

to cycle it back and really

33:06

understand it, like how do you

33:08

not become mainstream? Like how do

33:10

you continue to satisfy this portfolio,

33:12

the portfolio that you've created, right?

33:15

Like it's like, it's like, it's

33:17

like. I mean, I think there's,

33:19

there's a few things to this.

33:21

One, I'll talk about, I'll talk

33:23

about what's on the outside. No,

33:26

he was probably caught in a

33:29

clip for a fucking balls. Who

33:31

was it? What was it? What

33:33

was it? What was it, Kevin?

33:36

Was it Peter? Fucking sickle, man.

33:38

Go, go, dude. Stock guy. No,

33:40

with disrespect. No, that's good. No,

33:43

that's good. He's good. So there's

33:45

a few reasons for that. One,

33:47

I think I read a statistic

33:50

that like 90% of the world's

33:52

money was made in the past

33:54

10 years. And as you know

33:57

very well, people who make money

33:59

recently... feel judged by those who

34:01

made money a long time ago.

34:04

It's like this new money versus

34:06

old money. And they want to

34:08

learn the ways of the old

34:11

money people because they think that

34:13

that's what the experienced spender lives

34:15

like. True or false, who knows?

34:18

Experience spender. Right? I mean, that's

34:20

how people think. And here comes

34:22

this account. Stad guy that unco.

34:25

followed me and started to engage

34:27

with my content. I was so

34:29

honored, I've always been a big

34:32

fan of his. And he started

34:34

commenting, the modern Robin Leach, who

34:36

had this TV show, The Secret

34:39

Lives of the Richard Davis. And

34:41

he thought that Stadge was the

34:43

modern take on that, and that

34:46

I'm uncovering this world, but also

34:48

keeping this gate. So that's one

34:50

of the, the, the, the tailwinds.

34:53

Also, most of my audiences now

34:55

in the US. which makes sense

34:57

because the fastest growing economy. And

35:00

people in the US have always

35:02

been very curious about Europe and

35:05

European living. And I'm uncovering a

35:07

secret world like Stad that's rarely

35:09

been uncovered or Central Pay or

35:12

all these places. So that's on

35:14

the tailwind side. On my side,

35:16

I love that the parties are

35:19

getting bigger and more people are

35:21

engaging. I think that started happening

35:23

when I took a slight turn

35:26

to talking more about good manners,

35:28

values, relationship advice, relationship advice from

35:30

the perspective of this. Stadgei, who

35:33

used to only really talk about

35:35

consumerism mostly, but now it's also

35:37

about a way of living, which

35:40

is a deep part of this

35:42

world, of manners and treating people

35:44

well, for, hopefully, for a lot

35:47

of people, but sometimes not. And

35:49

that opened up the gates. The

35:51

way I try to keep the

35:54

gates a bit more closed is

35:56

by adding barriers to entry through

35:58

language. So you might notice... In

36:01

a lot of my videos, I'll

36:03

start the video with, Bojor me

36:05

Demis Misieu, Constance the Stadt guy

36:08

here. So you're phasing out middle

36:10

America. I'm trying to stick to

36:12

a niche. What are you doing

36:15

for Danny and Tuscaloosa? Alabama, bro.

36:17

What are you doing? I hope

36:19

you can learn anything or two.

36:22

I'd love to meet a niche.

36:24

You know? But I'm trying to

36:26

keep the party contained. Even though

36:29

I love the fact that it's

36:31

scaled and I'm so grateful for

36:33

it. I think that niche has

36:36

some company. You got any beef

36:38

in the high value net worth

36:40

space because there's a couple other

36:43

people in the space right now.

36:45

They're doing things a little bit

36:47

differently. It's great. Are you familiar

36:50

with Super Snake? I am. Great

36:52

guy. Best friends. Yeah. We're friends.

36:54

Do you guys appreciate what the

36:57

other does? Yeah, I think we're

36:59

both playing different games in the

37:01

same field sort of thing. I

37:04

think he talks to a different

37:06

type of consumer who's a bit

37:08

more. party a bit more... He

37:11

talks a little bit more to

37:13

me. Yeah. Not, not, you know,

37:16

to be, not to... I agree

37:18

with you. And I want to

37:20

ask you about this too, and

37:23

kind of segue into it, because

37:25

he definitely does. And, you know,

37:27

the memes are about the dark

37:30

side of Basil and, you know,

37:32

the hooly-dooley's, the prostitutes at F1

37:34

and this and that. It's very,

37:37

you know, focused on that, on

37:39

that darker side. I'm always been

37:41

focused on more family friendly friendly

37:44

friendly friendly friendly. My hashtag on

37:46

every post is it's all family.

37:48

Yep. I've always wanted to be

37:51

more like Shrek where you transcend

37:53

ages. Yep. How do you what

37:55

one thing that has always been

37:58

tricky I think for for both

38:00

for any. that plays in this

38:02

podcast base and in this kind

38:05

of world. It's always hard for

38:07

me to not tell the wildest

38:09

stories from the back rooms from

38:12

the from you know the after

38:14

parties you know what I'm saying

38:16

that because they are the best

38:19

stories but I've always felt like

38:21

as soon as you start telling

38:23

them they're gonna stop happening. How

38:26

do you draw the line as to

38:29

like what is acceptable to talk about

38:31

regarding the World of the elites and

38:33

what is not acceptable and I don't

38:36

mean that on some like weird like

38:38

Illuminati shit I just mean like what

38:40

what what secrets are better left on

38:43

shared I feel like I'll never really

38:45

expose people or Corner people in a

38:47

negative light so I feel like even

38:49

from uncovering something negative, I'll try to

38:52

pretend like my character is the one

38:54

doing the negative thing, or one of

38:56

my characters. Self-deprecation. And sort of like

38:59

offsetting the attention from someone who could

39:01

feel targeted, because I'm not trying to

39:03

be TMS, you know? So, I try

39:06

to also add the layer of fiction.

39:08

I think fiction is the strongest way

39:10

of telling stories and all... types of

39:13

media over the past 10,000 years like

39:15

fiction leads books movies music for social

39:17

media for some reason It's always been

39:19

this tiny tiny subset And I think

39:22

fiction is so powerful so because you

39:24

can tell a real story In a

39:26

far more interesting way by adding some

39:29

salt and pepper and adding some spices

39:31

to your dish, right? And I think

39:33

that there's this addiction to the authentic

39:36

on social media that's now being challenged

39:38

because people are realizing that those who

39:40

are authentic are actually often inauthentic. So

39:43

they're down to swing to the opposite

39:45

side of the spectrum and they're celebrating

39:47

fiction. And a great example of that

39:49

is zacarific. I think he's actually excellent.

39:52

I think he's so good at what

39:54

he does. He's so humble. He's so

39:56

humble. Yeah, the most. He owns his

39:59

character. I actually think he's he's one

40:01

of the greats online right now. For

40:03

sure. And he's great. So with a

40:06

with a rock star like Zacharific, you

40:08

know, I mean his his accomplishments are

40:10

the list goes on and on and

40:13

on and on. And I aspire even

40:15

to be as a fluent and. Articulate

40:17

is a guy like Zacharith. I agree.

40:19

But the girls. The girls. I mean

40:22

the girls he gets this guy's pull

40:24

in the huss. Yeah, like the list

40:26

again goes on and on. I heard

40:29

he has by the way a few

40:31

homes in Stadt. More than one. More

40:33

than one. Oh my god. Really? Yeah.

40:36

That guy's a gangster. So much money.

40:38

So I was gonna ask with with

40:40

like a character like Colton. Like a

40:43

character like Colton. He's like a new

40:45

money, duchy, rich kid. Exactly. Who has

40:47

zero self-awareness about like what he looks

40:49

like. Precisely. Okay, okay. 100%. So that's

40:52

my like Ohio interpretation of what Colton

40:54

is. Yeah. So like, would a guy

40:56

like Colton beef with, you know, a

40:59

rock star like Zacharific? Like two guys

41:01

with money, two guys who can pull

41:03

any girl they want, drive the cool

41:06

cars. There's that guy in the room.

41:08

He feels elevated, he feels like he's

41:10

in the penthouse and they're in the

41:13

lobby. So he'll stay quiet, he'll stay

41:15

to the side, he'll mind his own

41:17

business. What does, what does Constance think

41:19

of Colton? He thinks he's, he's on

41:22

his own journey. But he loves him.

41:24

He loves him. Yeah, family, you know.

41:26

They're cousins, right? They're cousins. How did

41:29

you come up with the character of

41:31

Colton? Like how did you, how did

41:33

you, how did you were like this,

41:36

you were like, you were like this

41:38

funny, funny, funny, funny, funny, funny, funny,

41:40

funny, funny brod, brode, brode, brode, brode,

41:43

duchy, duchy brode, duchy, duchy, duchy, duchy,

41:45

duchy, duchy, duchy, duchy, duchy, duchy, duchy,

41:47

duchy, duchy, duchy, Okay, so basically I

41:49

think I've always thought that accents carry

41:52

prejudice, positive or negative, right? But when

41:54

you hear an accent, you assume things

41:56

because of people you're exposed to with

41:59

those accents. So for example, David Attenborough

42:01

of the documentaries and many others have.

42:03

taught us that like this eloquent British

42:06

accent is like wisdom manners etiquette knowledge

42:08

so when constance says something mediocre sounds

42:10

profound and that's real you know it's

42:13

a real thing yeah people are speaking

42:15

like with these eloquent accents you you

42:17

want to listen to what they say

42:19

and you you take it so well

42:22

and that's what his wisdom videos where

42:24

I sit at these desks and constance

42:26

says these profound things. I was on

42:29

a boat, a very, very big boat,

42:31

with a guy who owns the boat

42:33

and everyone's talking, and he starts to

42:36

speak and everyone stops and listens, you

42:38

know, and he says like, hard work

42:40

pays off. Everyone's like, they get so

42:43

amped up because the guy owns the

42:45

boat, you know? So like if any

42:47

of his guests said anything that was

42:49

actually profound, no one would care. And

42:52

that's when I started to realize like

42:54

with the with this delivery and of

42:56

course with the boat, the boat's a

42:59

big part with the boat and this

43:01

whole thing. People really like will believe

43:03

anything anyone says. I was like, what

43:06

if Stad guy sits at a table

43:08

and starts spewing random wisdom? Well, how

43:10

people feel about it. So my first

43:13

video with the wisdom was. The more

43:15

you spend, the more you make. Well,

43:17

sorry, the more you spend, the more

43:19

you make. And people were like, yes.

43:22

I agree. I was like, you agree?

43:24

This is supposed to be ironic. But

43:26

I realized that you wear the lower

43:29

piano, you wear the North Piget, you're

43:31

sitting at this desk and people like,

43:33

they resonate. I was like, let me

43:36

make fun of wisdom. But it is

43:38

true. It's so obvious. It's so obvious.

43:40

How? What? How's that true? You save.

43:43

What do you mean? No, no, the

43:45

more you spend, the more you make

43:47

is a common business theory. You have

43:49

to spend money to make money. Yes,

43:52

but not the more. Like you should

43:54

invest a bit and still be reasonable.

43:56

But like, what I was saying is

43:59

make 10 spend 12. Got it. Which

44:01

is absurd. Right. So basically I realize

44:03

if I say absurd things in this

44:06

eloquent British accent, people will resonate, you

44:08

know, so Costant, Sada Poubel, Fantastique, with

44:10

this French and the trilingual, and then

44:13

I thought, I need a push and

44:15

pull, I need the devil to the

44:17

angel, I need the antithesis. And who

44:19

is that? It's the American hype beast

44:22

with all this chrome hearts money, you

44:24

know? And it's cousin Colton, yeah, what

44:26

is good guys, cousin Colton here. And

44:29

he's just like a chill dude. He

44:31

loves life love to celebrate everything. Where's

44:33

he based? He's in LA, right? He's

44:36

LA, New York, Upper East Side, Hamptons,

44:38

Miami. He's my guy. I see him

44:40

every day. You see it every day?

44:43

Exactly. Every day. It's my favorite. In

44:45

fact, you know what's funny. We started

44:47

this episode with you guys talking about

44:49

your friendship. Yeah. Me and you didn't

44:52

start off on a good. No. We

44:54

started off because I think I think

44:56

when we all right so we met

44:59

in a in a very different time

45:01

and and we met under We met

45:03

under like the the brutal rain Logan

45:06

Paul not the current like and there

45:08

was a lot of like infighting and

45:10

like distrust and war and like it

45:13

was that guy with the voice in

45:15

the house You're talking about one of

45:17

the most famous characters in the history,

45:19

Ron Bergham. We're not doing this shit.

45:22

We're not fucking doing this right? Kevin's

45:24

laughing. Me? Oh, me and him. Bro,

45:26

there will be books about all of

45:29

this, like long books, bro, bro, but

45:31

you, but I think, I think, I

45:33

think, more than anything, we both repert,

45:36

when we met. We both were vying

45:38

for, we can be honest by now,

45:40

we were both vying for a friendship,

45:43

you know, and I think there was

45:45

a lot of that kind of like,

45:47

just like trying to, trying to get,

45:49

battling for friendship and I think so.

45:52

I think it was part. of it

45:54

do you? Really? I don't think so.

45:56

I don't think so. I think you

45:59

and I just had a hard time

46:01

purely because we were on slightly different

46:03

vibes. I think you were very high

46:06

energy. I was fairly low energy and

46:08

I think we both met somewhere in

46:10

the middle years later. Well I wanted

46:13

to say that but I also think

46:15

that we I also think that we

46:17

represented like such differing sides of the

46:19

world. Like constance and culture. Oh 100%

46:22

and that's so that's why. I hope

46:24

not this, I hope not. But that's

46:26

why I bring it up right. No,

46:29

no, no, but to me you were

46:31

because I was from, you know, you

46:33

know, food stamps and crack and porn

46:36

stars and I met this guy who

46:38

is, you know, ski lifts and as

46:40

I say that, it appears on the

46:43

screen. You are in real life more

46:45

like constance. But he's a blend before.

46:47

You are a blend, but you do,

46:49

you understand that upper echelon of life.

46:52

And you did flow in and around

46:54

that world while not being like one

46:56

of those people. And so like certainly

46:59

for everyone who knows you, at least

47:01

our friends, like you are like, you

47:03

know, you know how to act. I

47:06

appreciate. But it was a clash, right?

47:08

At first. And then, and then slowly,

47:10

but surely, we. realize we're like wow

47:13

dude he's funny and then we he

47:15

would come around more often you're at

47:17

the house and I would see you

47:19

traveling and out and then years later

47:22

you would call me and be like

47:24

hey man like I'm thinking about leaving

47:26

do we talk yeah you could say

47:29

I think this is fast I think

47:31

it's fascinating because dude you did you

47:33

had a whole life before your social

47:36

media career took off and and a

47:38

successful life and the funniest part about

47:40

you I think is that you're actually

47:43

so conservative and take your time you

47:45

make smart strategic decisions very low risk

47:47

doesn't drink doesn't smoke you're you're a

47:49

great guy who's very risk of adverse

47:52

and you had a regular your ass

47:54

job working at Apple Pay? No, an

47:56

awesome ass job. An awesome, an awesome

47:59

job. For sure, like a prestigious job

48:01

though, you worked at Apple Pay, right?

48:03

In the international pay? Apple Pay? Yeah,

48:06

it was, it was an amazing phase

48:08

of my life. Like, when I started

48:10

Stadge, it was just for fun. Before

48:13

I get to that, actually, thank you

48:15

for your kind words. Well, I didn't

48:17

even get to them. I just, but

48:19

I think we're going in the right.

48:22

I worked on a startup for a

48:24

while when I had first met you.

48:26

I just started working on it. I

48:29

did well for a bit and then

48:31

I went bust. And then I got

48:33

a desk job at Apple, working on

48:36

Apple Pay Growth. And Apple is a

48:38

very secretive company that doesn't really love

48:40

people to be exposed to the camera

48:43

unless they're part of the process. So

48:45

the fictional world of Stad guy and

48:47

the privacy of Stad guy really helped

48:49

with that where I could work by

48:52

day and film videos by night. I

48:54

feel like Batman. I mean, Batman is

48:56

a stretch. I'd say more like budget

48:59

Hannah Montana, you know? And I started

49:01

filming these videos and two years in,

49:03

they started to pick up. And I

49:06

could finally take the leap of faith

49:08

once Stadke became lucrative and I could

49:10

justify quitting my job and doing this

49:13

full time and living off of Stadkei.

49:15

And the businesses I start on the

49:17

back of it. So. What happened? when

49:19

your boss at Apple found out that

49:22

you were also making these ridiculous social

49:24

media videos? He was pretty supportive. He

49:26

was? Yeah, I think so. I mean,

49:29

at least that's what it seemed like

49:31

to me. I think people are generally

49:33

excited for people going on their own

49:36

path. And Apple is generally a very

49:38

cool place to work. It changed my

49:40

way of thinking about things entirely. What

49:43

was the ultimate deciding fact deciding factor

49:45

factor that led you to quit your

49:47

your your well-paying job. You were torn.

49:49

Yeah. I think for a while. I

49:52

think I've had the blessing of perspective

49:54

growing up and seeing how money can

49:56

do great things and how the lack

49:59

of it can also do bad things.

50:01

So I've experienced ups and downs. And

50:03

I think that the desire for stability

50:06

was such a big part of me

50:08

getting employed in the first place. I

50:10

wanted to be having the stable life

50:13

and have this job and have this

50:15

job and have this job and have

50:17

this job and have this job and

50:19

have this job and have this job

50:22

and have this job and have this

50:24

job and have this job and have

50:26

this job and And it made me

50:29

very scared to take the leap of

50:31

faith to become an entrepreneur and do

50:33

Stad's guy full-time. So really I sat

50:36

on the thought of quitting for a

50:38

really long time. And I actually briefly

50:40

joined Coinbase after Apple, after we met

50:43

Brian and Stad. And actually, so I

50:45

left Apple, went to Coinbase very briefly

50:47

and quit all of that two months

50:49

in. Really, because of financial confidence, I

50:52

think that hedging risk when... You have

50:54

a pretty good job, but it means

50:56

a lot to you is important and

50:59

not to like take a ridiculous sleep

51:01

of faith and just go do something

51:03

like social media I think you should

51:06

wait until you derisk it a bit

51:08

and I derisked it over two three

51:10

years and Only once Stadga was paying

51:13

me enough could I best best advice?

51:15

Yeah, it's good advice. He did the

51:17

same I call it calculated risk. I

51:19

did I did the same as well.

51:22

You did it did too. Yep like

51:24

like like we all had like a

51:26

viable plan B you seem to be

51:29

like it could be plan A now.

51:31

Yeah, that's exactly what it was. So

51:33

side hustle becomes main hustle. Yep, so

51:36

let's run it. And I even, and

51:38

even, ironically, I always even found a

51:40

way to keep my main hustle that,

51:43

and made that my side hustle after

51:45

I left. That's great. So I would

51:47

still, I would find a way like

51:49

when I left loves hack. and join

51:52

Maverick. I got a consulting deal with

51:54

it. So for the first year I

51:56

left Lovesack, I was actually getting paid

51:59

by them to do remote work for

52:01

them while I was doing most of

52:03

the time here. Exactly. That's great. So

52:06

it is interesting because Because in a

52:08

way I feel like you've faked it

52:10

and then made it. And it's so

52:13

interesting because you started making fun of

52:15

these people and they're luxurious lifestyles and

52:17

the word is luxury and now you're

52:19

living that luxury lifestyle and you did

52:22

fake it and then you made it.

52:24

And so how do you feel like

52:26

the idea that you're one of the

52:29

people now that you make fun of?

52:31

Actually, I mean, I'm not one of

52:33

the people at all. But you, but

52:36

you got one levels in between. That

52:38

is, that is true. But dude, like,

52:40

you are everywhere all over the world

52:43

at the coolest spots, all the big

52:45

events with all the super models, like,

52:47

you know, you see it, you're in

52:49

it. And I mean. You know, like

52:52

Zacharific, I'll be honest, I draw parallels

52:54

with you guys, because this guy was

52:56

essentially like, you know, faking, he was

52:59

this character, and then I see him

53:01

like actually out and about getting axis,

53:03

getting into clubs, getting girls like this

53:06

motherfucker manifested his way into being the

53:08

cool guy, and now he is. That's

53:10

cool. It's cool to see. Yeah, for

53:13

sure. I think above everything, I'm grateful

53:15

and blessed to be in this position.

53:18

I think another thing that's part

53:20

of that gratitude is the perspective

53:22

of seeing that there isn't really

53:24

that golden light at the end

53:26

of the tunnel. You guys know

53:28

that in this world. Like there

53:31

isn't a party that's missing that's

53:33

going to change your life for

53:35

an event that's missing. It's... Wait

53:37

a sec. Wait, why don't you

53:39

say that one party, that one

53:41

moment doesn't actually exist? No, no,

53:44

no, no, no. I thought you

53:46

have to do every single one.

53:48

You can't, you know, you can't,

53:50

you know. Wait, can I, can

53:52

I, can I do a little

53:54

exercise with you? Please. Can I

53:57

just fire like a couple things

53:59

off of you? Sure. Okay, when

54:01

I say, I'm gonna just say

54:03

a word, you just let me

54:05

know what, meet me. that comes

54:07

to mind. Star, you know. Cool

54:10

guy. Chiltern. Hotel in London. You're

54:12

just saying what they are. Oh,

54:14

come on. What do you want

54:16

me to do? Association? Oh, that's

54:18

fine. And I put better, fantastic.

54:20

You can do that if you

54:23

want, but I, yeah, like, have.

54:25

Caviarois in Central. Yes. Smells like

54:27

puke. Who's that? Faisal. Oh, in

54:29

Saudi? Yeah. Great guy. Del Pina.

54:31

Beautiful hotel. Will Macris. Great guy.

54:33

I just wanted to launch some

54:36

of these like, these like scene

54:38

things that you see what your

54:40

response was. No, it's fun. I

54:42

think. Well, Macris. Great guy. I

54:44

think the scene generally is. It

54:46

looks a lot more sparkly on

54:49

the outside than it is on...

54:51

Oh yeah, dude, for sure. There's

54:53

influenza in there. Yeah, there is.

54:55

It's breeding. I think going to

54:57

all these places and doing all

54:59

these things, if you have the

55:01

wrong head on your shoulders, it

55:04

can go down a very dark

55:06

path and we've seen it many

55:08

times. But if you can go

55:10

into these places with the right

55:12

mindset energy where it's part of

55:14

work, part of an experience and

55:17

not your identity to just travel

55:19

around the world, going to these

55:21

F1s. My work is also fun

55:23

and glamorous and cool. But when

55:25

I'm there, I'm really excited about

55:27

going back home and being with

55:30

friends and hanging out with you

55:32

guys and family, you know. See,

55:34

I just, I just, all jokes

55:36

aside go thing the thing, right?

55:38

Same way. But I feel extremely

55:40

good after I leave ever to

55:43

them because I always have a

55:45

new guest for the show. I

55:47

always have a new. Flute connection.

55:49

Yeah, I do get influenza, but

55:51

I but I feel I feel

55:53

like I'm able to work the

55:56

I get a ton of stuff

55:58

done in the rooms and a

56:00

lot of people don't A lot

56:02

of people, to your point, a

56:04

lot of people go and they

56:06

do too see, they spend money

56:09

on girls, right? They stay at

56:11

the Satie for, you know, a

56:13

week and a half, and then

56:15

they, yeah, it's a fantastic, fantastic.

56:17

I think you have to milk

56:19

every opportunity, right? So if you're

56:21

at one of these places and

56:24

these good things rarely last forever,

56:26

make sure you milk every second,

56:28

you meet the right people, you

56:30

like milk. I like dairy milk.

56:32

You drink a dairy milk? I

56:34

drink a dairy milk. You had

56:37

the milk in stad? Oh my

56:39

God. That's great. I've had it

56:41

with you. It's very good. Very

56:43

good milk. Wow. Oh the fondue

56:45

with the stad palace. Very good.

56:47

Also very good. Also very good.

56:50

Who gets more huz? Colton or

56:52

Constance? What does huz mean? The

56:54

huz. Just ignore me. He forgot

56:56

he's 30. Who gets more girls.

56:58

Constance or Colton. Yeah. Yeah. I

57:00

think in practice. In practice. In

57:03

practice. Colton, because the modern girl

57:05

loves that toxic guy. But Colston,

57:07

you know, is a good valued

57:09

man. He's as a family man.

57:11

He's honest. I think he deserves

57:13

more than Colton does. But you

57:16

know, it's rarely the case. I

57:18

like the mics. The mics get

57:20

all the girls. The Coltons. That

57:22

is true. Funny, guys. I like

57:24

when you do ala pubil. Alapubil

57:26

is great. In the trash. Can

57:29

we do an exercise? Can we

57:31

do an exercise? For sure? Spending

57:33

more than five seconds looking at

57:35

the bill. All the pubel. Story

57:37

highlights of different travel destinations. All

57:39

the pubel. Cuffing your pants. All

57:42

the pubel. Wearing ankle socks. All

57:44

the pubel? Wearing ankle socks. All

57:46

the pubel? Really? Really? You can

57:48

wear the ones that don't show

57:50

shows. No shows. Posting photos of

57:52

DJ's behind the DJ booth. I

57:54

make money off. I'll tell you

57:57

what, say it for me.

57:59

bad. I feel like they're a

58:01

lot more calling a week -long trip to Yeah,

58:03

as a vacation. not a mic target to be

58:05

honest with you. I feel like you do get a lot of

58:07

like from get a lot of

58:09

inspo from what Yeah, doing it's not a mic

58:11

but to be honest. It's not a certainly

58:13

to be honest. beings. human beings, generally feel

58:15

beings generally feel like they're a like lot

58:17

more unique than they are. are. And my

58:19

page is like a testament to that.

58:22

Like, we, to that. Like we even Stad guy who's

58:24

just like. Fictional who's so absurd, no

58:26

one even knows a real guy

58:28

who's sitting there frowning and hating

58:30

on everything. and hating on everything right? Yeah, but they

58:32

still relate to what he relate sure he says

58:34

for sure. It's um have have a lot I

58:37

love the Alliance. I I love my friends. You've got

58:39

some to your friends with the kind

58:41

of music the kind of of they're great.

58:43

The guys. A are of big They're crushing it.

58:45

They're really doing great. They actually have

58:47

a very similar audience to Stodd great. reason.

58:49

There's a lot of overlap. mean, similar it

58:52

seems like every year a kind of

58:54

like a new. I mean, they're like,

58:56

it seems like every year, it's kind

58:58

of like a new, like a ensemble or

59:00

remember DJ. Like I been it

59:02

has of is still kind of

59:04

as roof-is roof-is-is-is- doing the world tour

59:06

2025, which which kicks off I

59:08

think I March. March and kind of music

59:10

of music has just been insane.

59:12

now And now has had a huge

59:14

year as well. Just crush it, whatever, dude.

59:16

I'm not a big not a big party

59:19

guy. No, but you attention but You pay

59:21

attention to that. Yeah, You I think

59:23

that's. to this. I think that's,

59:25

that's is? I didn't know What,

59:27

what is? I names you were

59:29

mentioning. a lot of, a couple of those

59:31

names you were I was going to say. Rufis?

59:33

How do you have do you have enough social

59:35

energy to talk with people when you're

59:37

out and about? you're out and

59:40

about? Because me, me, like is

59:42

a tool in that way. way. You

59:45

know, don't, don't. dad now, I don't I

59:47

don't really give a fuck, but if I

59:49

drink a little bit, a little some pretty good

59:51

conversations, but you don't drink and you're always

59:53

out and about. but you Yeah,

59:55

I think I... and you're always out

59:57

and about. Yeah, I think I, I,

59:59

um... really practiced ending conversations quickly if

1:00:02

I don't see them being fruitful.

1:00:04

And by fruitful I don't mean

1:00:06

like I'm gaining something, I mean

1:00:08

like a conversation I'll even enjoy

1:00:10

having. Energy. And have the energy

1:00:12

for it. So I try to

1:00:14

protect my energy if I meet

1:00:16

someone and they're immediately showing and

1:00:18

I try to protect my energy

1:00:20

if I meet someone and they're

1:00:22

immediately showing off or like giving

1:00:24

me this energy that I don't

1:00:26

really align with. I'll try to

1:00:28

just end it and move away.

1:00:30

Yeah. and I really enjoy talking

1:00:32

to them and learning and it's

1:00:34

usually a great time. Honestly, I'm

1:00:36

blessed. I'm meeting pretty cool people

1:00:38

when I go to these places.

1:00:40

So I've happened to have stumbled

1:00:42

upon this life path and job

1:00:44

that brings me to good people.

1:00:46

So you know what I like

1:00:48

to see as your friend? And

1:00:50

just like anyone doing social media?

1:00:52

I like to see you building

1:00:55

your own businesses now capitalizing, you

1:00:57

know, like like like like I

1:00:59

said before you 100x, Laura Piana

1:01:01

and that was a 100% year

1:01:03

of doing. I appreciate that. Tell

1:01:05

me about the Vekunya. The Vekunya

1:01:07

is a beautiful animal that lives

1:01:09

in South America that is delicately

1:01:11

sheared once every two years and

1:01:13

has the finest wool of any

1:01:15

natural fiber in the entire world

1:01:17

which makes it extremely soft. Lower

1:01:19

Piano have fibers that are finer

1:01:21

than Vekuena now, but they're through

1:01:23

generations of selective breeding. They have

1:01:25

this amazing line called The Gift

1:01:27

of Kings, which is selectively bred

1:01:29

merino wool, which traditionally is, you

1:01:31

guys know, merino is like not

1:01:33

super rare at all. Why'd you

1:01:35

say as you guys know? But

1:01:37

I used to, I literally, like

1:01:39

I said, I used food stamps

1:01:41

to buy cheese. I mean, look

1:01:43

at you know. I had eight

1:01:45

pairs of these travices. They don't

1:01:47

have merino. wool. Is that like,

1:01:49

is that like better than cashmere?

1:01:52

No, marina wool is typically not

1:01:54

better than cashmere, but there's very

1:01:56

few marino sheep that have Dan

1:01:58

marino, like a genetic privilege. it's

1:02:00

very impressive and amazing tech goes

1:02:02

into a lot of these luxury

1:02:04

businesses so very few luxury businesses

1:02:06

I think are strong enough in

1:02:08

product product to stand out a

1:02:10

lot of these luxury businesses I

1:02:12

think are strong enough in product

1:02:14

to stand out a lot of

1:02:16

them are strong just strong on

1:02:18

brands which I think is not

1:02:20

true luxury I think that's hype

1:02:22

no no I agree that part

1:02:24

that part makes sense yeah that's

1:02:26

an LP sweater you got on

1:02:28

I'm actually I think head to

1:02:30

toe right now so so what

1:02:32

were your outfit cost right now

1:02:34

in totality. Please, you gotta do

1:02:36

it, bro, you're unimpulsive. The layman

1:02:38

wants to know. Because you're so

1:02:40

understated, but bro, I'll speak for

1:02:42

you, that's gotta be a seven

1:02:44

to eight thousand dollar outfit. No?

1:02:47

Possibly. Come on, man. Possibly. My

1:02:49

man's living in the world. That

1:02:51

was an incredible answer. That was

1:02:53

an incredible answer. But look, you've

1:02:55

done it. Now you've taken your

1:02:57

learnings and you've taken your learnings.

1:02:59

I have. Poubel, tell me about

1:03:01

poubel. I think it's amazing. So

1:03:03

poubel came from my catch phrase

1:03:05

a la poubel, which people kind

1:03:07

of know me for now. That's

1:03:09

actually the first spike of virality

1:03:11

I had on the page by

1:03:13

saying things and phrases that Constance,

1:03:15

the Stard guy, disapproves of, and

1:03:17

at the end saying a la

1:03:19

poubel, which in French means to

1:03:21

the trash. And it's him trying

1:03:23

to push good manners, good values,

1:03:25

good values, good ways of living,

1:03:27

good ways of living. Most of

1:03:29

them, most of them, most of

1:03:31

them completely absurd. and also showed

1:03:33

his disapproval of things with his

1:03:35

frown and his outfits. So, Allepubell.

1:03:37

So he says, like you've said,

1:03:39

if he looks at the bill

1:03:41

for more than five seconds, if

1:03:44

he looks at the bill for

1:03:46

more than five seconds, Allepubell, and

1:03:48

because of course the absurd constance

1:03:50

pay without consideration. Yeah, yeah. And

1:03:52

through that I realized that the...

1:03:54

These Alapubel videos were creating friendships

1:03:56

and bonds between people when they

1:03:58

would joke about these videos and

1:04:00

they would two people would like

1:04:02

the sport Padel and Love it

1:04:04

and bond over it or they'd

1:04:06

love the game of bagam and

1:04:08

then bond over it. And sometimes

1:04:10

those things were like generic, like

1:04:12

loving sushi, and sometimes they were

1:04:14

super obscure and unique to the

1:04:16

world of Stad guy like Vekunya.

1:04:18

So I realized people were bonding

1:04:20

over these absurdities, and I thought,

1:04:22

what if someone could wear their

1:04:24

absurdities and wear their interests on

1:04:26

jewelry? And the traditional charm bracelet

1:04:28

has charms that kind of dangle,

1:04:30

which makes them slightly less masculine,

1:04:32

also the sound. Most guys that

1:04:34

follow me wouldn't want something like

1:04:36

that. So I came up with

1:04:39

a design where the charms are

1:04:41

directly in between the links. All

1:04:43

the links are sterling silver, all

1:04:45

the charms are sterling silver, and

1:04:47

their hand painted with enamel on

1:04:49

the sterling silver. So even though

1:04:51

they look playful and fun and

1:04:53

colorful and youthful, they're very well-made.

1:04:55

And people wear the things they

1:04:57

love now. So they wear this

1:04:59

Reva aquarama, which is the boats

1:05:01

that are on Lake Como. They

1:05:03

wear a small vacoonia. They can

1:05:05

wear. And there's all these different

1:05:07

options for charms to buy, right?

1:05:09

That represent your personality? We have

1:05:11

like 80 charms in the website.

1:05:13

80? Sick. Sick. Yeah. But let's

1:05:15

not forget, these things are pricey.

1:05:17

Intentionally, though, correct? Yeah, I mean,

1:05:19

it is sterling silver and hand-painted.

1:05:21

So the price is fairly high.

1:05:23

But a lot of my customers

1:05:25

are actually buying lots of them

1:05:27

now and decorating their handbags. Usually.

1:05:29

because the charms are really in

1:05:31

right now and they wear their

1:05:33

interests and the things they love

1:05:36

on these bag chains. What's what

1:05:38

we talk about for one of

1:05:40

these bad boys just for a

1:05:42

charm itself? Each charm is about

1:05:44

$80. It's not too crazy but

1:05:46

you to make a bracelet you

1:05:48

need several charms. Okay. So a

1:05:50

completed set somewhere around six or

1:05:52

seven hundred dollars. Okay. People stack

1:05:54

them they were three or four

1:05:56

they put them on their bags.

1:05:58

Yeah. People end up spending like

1:06:00

one two thousand. That's aspirates. I

1:06:02

love that. I love that price

1:06:04

point. You know what else is

1:06:06

interesting too? When did you put

1:06:08

those out three months ago. But

1:06:10

when did you start ideating? Two

1:06:12

years ago. Okay and always kind

1:06:14

of looked with the square connector

1:06:16

link. It's funny because really like

1:06:18

in the past six to eight

1:06:20

months I think Tiffany's dropped hardware.

1:06:22

which I don't know if you've

1:06:24

seen this or not, but it's

1:06:26

a very similar square link. It's

1:06:28

almost like a masculine, like a

1:06:31

bulky masculine link. It's interesting that

1:06:33

they copied you. No, you didn't

1:06:35

copy me at all. The link,

1:06:37

link jewelry's been around forever. No,

1:06:39

no, no, I just, no, I

1:06:41

just, no, I mean with that

1:06:43

thick square, with the thick square.

1:06:45

No, so now they owe you

1:06:47

as much money as LP. So

1:06:49

what can I have those some

1:06:51

of those please? Of course. Amazing.

1:06:53

Here you go. Wait, wait, wait,

1:06:55

wait, you're just gonna give it

1:06:57

to him? Make him, make him

1:06:59

buy it. No, I'll buy charms,

1:07:01

but just give me some of

1:07:03

the stars. You should actually talk

1:07:05

about what happened to yours. I

1:07:07

feel horrible. I feel horrible. I

1:07:09

gave you, I feel horrible. Well,

1:07:11

here's what happened. He sent me

1:07:13

and Nina, who bell? Yeah. The

1:07:15

bracelets. Put them on the

1:07:17

on the dog as like a little

1:07:20

like holler and man dog went out

1:07:22

running around the woods dog came back

1:07:24

Olliple bell shit was gone. Oh my

1:07:26

god shit was gone. It was gone.

1:07:29

It was gone. Two thousand dollar bracelet

1:07:31

gone somewhere in the woods That's actually

1:07:33

a necklace so you can you can

1:07:35

combine the links to make anything as

1:07:38

long as you want or as you

1:07:40

want. Do you have a uh you

1:07:42

got a cheeseburger? I do have a

1:07:44

cheeseburger. Of course of course I do

1:07:47

any syringes oranges for Mike Have you

1:07:49

thought about being more like more fringe

1:07:51

more risque like that? I think this

1:07:53

I don't think anyone wants to celebrate

1:07:56

that on their jewelry. So right surprise

1:07:58

bro. Really? No, you wouldn't be surprised.

1:08:00

I think you put that on. It's

1:08:02

a necklace. I wouldn't. know how to

1:08:05

put it on. You just combine the

1:08:07

links in the back. You know, in

1:08:09

fact, I do know how to put

1:08:11

this on. Man, I don't know how

1:08:14

to put this on. What would I

1:08:16

do with these two ends? There's little

1:08:18

clips, you just clip them. Dude. So

1:08:20

what now you're asking? Yeah, what now?

1:08:23

Like what now, actually, because you just

1:08:25

started this business, this necklace business. Well,

1:08:27

there's half. And, and, and, and, and

1:08:29

you have these two characters, two characters.

1:08:32

And you can speak to really important

1:08:34

high network individuals. What do you do

1:08:36

with that? I continue pushing and I

1:08:38

think that the comedic tone of voice

1:08:41

is going to continue to be a

1:08:43

tone of voice, but really it's like

1:08:45

kind of like luxury journalism. And I

1:08:47

think that there's a lot of stories

1:08:50

to tell about this world. The world's

1:08:52

unfortunately becoming more and more polarized. So

1:08:54

there's more and more curiosity about this

1:08:56

sort of lifestyle, for better or for

1:08:59

worst. And I want to keep telling

1:09:01

stories, adding some humility, adding some comedy

1:09:03

to it, and promoting businesses in the

1:09:05

process. And the 0.1% has become so

1:09:08

demonized over the past couple years. You

1:09:10

know, I think the 0.1% is the

1:09:12

victim. right now. For sure. Yeah, I

1:09:14

mean, I feel bad for these people,

1:09:17

dude. That's why tonight I'll be going

1:09:19

to Saudi Arabia to help out our

1:09:21

fellow Saudi brothers and sisters. That's absolutely

1:09:23

right. Do you feel like do you

1:09:26

feel like one day you're gonna pull

1:09:28

back the veil completely? Because like I

1:09:30

still think there's a whole other side

1:09:32

to that people aren't seeing. I mean,

1:09:35

I'm here, right? So I hope it's

1:09:37

still. I'm curious. I still think I

1:09:39

still you're still you're still you're still

1:09:41

very much I think like a little

1:09:44

preserved I could tell. Well this was

1:09:46

all business focus we didn't really get

1:09:48

into his his life and his his

1:09:50

girls and Well, not like that. Yeah,

1:09:53

you're a chill guy, but I don't

1:09:55

know. I, I, I, I, there's way

1:09:57

more. Oh, I said your names. Oops.

1:09:59

No, I'm the only one who didn't.

1:10:02

We got, we got, I see, you

1:10:04

know. I think there's still a lot

1:10:06

more Stad guy for people to see.

1:10:08

Yeah, I think so too. I think

1:10:11

that trickling the story slowly is a

1:10:13

good thing. I agree, you know, you

1:10:15

know, I totally agree. I think, back

1:10:17

to Apple are the best storytellers in

1:10:19

the best storytellers in the world. because

1:10:22

they tell their own stories so carefully.

1:10:24

Him, him, Apple and like Cody Rhodes.

1:10:26

Oh yeah. I don't know what Cody

1:10:28

Rhodes was. A W superstar? Okay, fine.

1:10:31

He's, he thought Lana Rhodes when he

1:10:33

said that. No, no. She's a good

1:10:35

story teller too. Okay, there you go.

1:10:37

So I like, I like that slow

1:10:40

trickle, trickle effect. Yeah, it's fun. Man,

1:10:42

if we had done, if we had

1:10:44

really done this like deep dive show,

1:10:46

the three of us like, like, like

1:10:49

three years ago, such a dramatically different

1:10:51

show. What do you mean? It just

1:10:53

would have been such, it just would

1:10:55

have been, we would have talked about

1:10:58

girls the entire time. Really? Yeah, I

1:11:00

think. Do you want to do that?

1:11:02

I don't think there's much to say.

1:11:04

No, there's not. Well now there's not,

1:11:07

that's what I'm trying to say. Now

1:11:09

I'm going to, you know. Yeah, we're

1:11:11

all locked down, bro. Have a child.

1:11:13

I'm single right now. How's that? It's

1:11:16

interesting, it's cool. Like I'm, I'm traveling

1:11:18

to all these places, so I'm meeting

1:11:20

a lot of great people. But because

1:11:22

I'm traveling to all these places, I

1:11:25

rarely get the chance to spend a

1:11:27

lot of time with someone. I think

1:11:29

you're the ideal guy. I think you're

1:11:31

a nice guy. I think you're a

1:11:34

nice guy. I think you've seen both

1:11:36

sides of the coin. No, no, no,

1:11:38

bro. You're a catch. You're an absolute

1:11:40

break in hearts right now. There was

1:11:43

a two week minimum stay at hotels

1:11:45

in Switzerland. Yeah, and and students of

1:11:47

La Rosa that absurd boarding school in

1:11:49

Stad, the winter campus in Stad, really

1:11:52

wanted to have a slice of pizza,

1:11:54

but restaurants were closed, and they love

1:11:56

the lobby of one of these beautiful

1:11:58

hotels in Stad called the Alpina. So

1:12:01

these students, who come from very wealthy

1:12:03

families, have unlimited budgets to spend, just

1:12:05

so they could have pizza or the

1:12:07

dinner they wanted, and Stad would get

1:12:10

a room at the hotel. For 14

1:12:12

nights The room rate is like 2,000

1:12:14

plus per night Never go into the

1:12:16

room eaten the lobby and go home.

1:12:19

These are like 14 15 year olds.

1:12:21

So that's the level of absurdity That

1:12:23

is inspiring my content in a place

1:12:25

expensive like shtah very expensive pizza. That's

1:12:28

fucking ridiculous. Yeah, it's really ridiculous. Well,

1:12:30

what are they gonna do instead eat

1:12:32

wallies? The burgers, the burgers, and the

1:12:34

burgers, oh man. Oh, that sucks, because

1:12:37

they have so much potential wallies. Oh,

1:12:39

yeah. Oh, well, they, and they, no,

1:12:41

but they crush, they crush it. Yeah,

1:12:43

but the product is trasps. Yeah, but

1:12:46

the product is trasps. Oh, it's their

1:12:48

burgers. Wow. And it sucks, because they

1:12:50

got like cute little shack and it's

1:12:52

right in the center. I think they

1:12:55

should focus on QC a little bit

1:12:57

more quality control. Yeah. Yeah. But that,

1:12:59

but the one, but the one restaurant,

1:13:01

but the one restaurant down, but the

1:13:04

one restaurant down down the one restaurant

1:13:06

down the one restaurant down the street

1:13:08

across from. the olden yes the olden

1:13:10

very good rest and that's where everybody

1:13:13

I always see a tag and when

1:13:15

I see people going to shut so

1:13:17

a lot of people around you going

1:13:19

to start now if you yeah there

1:13:22

you go I mean bro you know

1:13:24

where I'm at real-life that guy dude

1:13:26

come on no colon give me some

1:13:28

shnitzel at the olden it's great didn't

1:13:31

we didn't we didn't we went there

1:13:33

yeah did we also almost getting a

1:13:35

fight in a fight or something happening

1:13:37

at one point no you almost getting

1:13:40

to fight in every international fight in

1:13:42

every international fight in every international place

1:13:44

you go He's a great traveler. We've

1:13:46

been some cool places. We've been camping

1:13:49

in Yosemite with you. We've been in

1:13:51

so many great places. Camping in Yosemite?

1:13:53

Oh my god. You had no trouble

1:13:55

out in Yosemite. Love you, Yosemite. There's

1:13:57

no people. No, yeah, as long as

1:14:00

there's nobody there, bro, and there's a

1:14:02

couple trees, I'm good. You guys should

1:14:04

do a Central Asia tour, by the

1:14:06

way. Well, we got kicked out of

1:14:09

Yosemite. That's when we realized you couldn't

1:14:11

hike. What? Did you just say is

1:14:13

Central Asia? No, you just said, as

1:14:15

long as I'm out there, there's no

1:14:18

people in a couple trees, I'm good.

1:14:21

Bro, I think you're reaching. I think

1:14:24

you're totally reaching. And then you said

1:14:26

we should go on a tour of

1:14:28

Asia. Central Asia. Central Asia. I recently

1:14:30

went to Uzbekistan. Incredible place. I saw

1:14:33

that. You skipped Art Basel. I did.

1:14:35

Did you enjoy Uzbekistan? Did you enjoy

1:14:37

Uzbekistan? Did you? Did you enjoy Uzbekistan?

1:14:40

Yeah, absolutely. What's the one you can't

1:14:42

go to? North Korea. No, no, there's

1:14:44

another one. You can go there. It's

1:14:47

very hard to go through Beijing and

1:14:49

get a special visa. Can go there,

1:14:51

really? We're not gonna do it. But

1:14:54

I mean, there's another one I think

1:14:56

it's called Turkmenistan. I don't know much

1:14:58

about that. There's one, you can't go.

1:15:01

It's very separate too. Uzbekistan's amazing, I

1:15:03

went to Mongolia, beautiful place. Did you

1:15:05

get the beef? Kangas Khan? I had

1:15:08

the beef for breakfast. It was very

1:15:10

good. The beef for breakfast. Beef for

1:15:12

breakfast? The airport's called kangis Khan Airforts?

1:15:15

I really loved Doha guitar. Come on.

1:15:17

Amazing. Amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing place. Super

1:15:19

clean. Every restaurant, everything you can imagine.

1:15:21

It also just feels like one big

1:15:24

museum, like the buildings are like works

1:15:26

of art. Where's second place? I really

1:15:28

love Uzbekistan. Incredible place. Really, there's a

1:15:31

city there called Samarkand, which is like,

1:15:33

Samarkand. The capital is Tashkast. And there's

1:15:35

another one called Buchara. We might get

1:15:38

demonotants for that first for that first.

1:15:40

Honestly, honestly, just Google. These cities are

1:15:42

beautiful, incredible places. I went to Mongolia,

1:15:45

amazing place, went to the Mongolian outskirts,

1:15:47

exceptional places. Honestly, I. I feel

1:15:49

really grateful to

1:15:52

see these see places

1:15:54

because of my job.

1:15:56

places wouldn't. It's incredible.

1:15:59

my job. You have

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a pretty good job

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and a pretty

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good life. I'm proud

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good you. life. And a pretty good

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smile a face. Yeah, you're just and a pretty

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good the ideal man. good not. and are.

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you're really appreciate the love. guys are

1:16:16

the ideal man. I'm saying no way. ideal

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man. you did, you have a beautiful

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wife and kids. You're doing all

1:16:23

these amazing things. ideal man. You guys beautiful girlfriend.

1:16:25

You have this beautiful home. You

1:16:27

guys have, man. No, no I mean, Well, I'm

1:16:29

I'm I'm so have watched you guys go

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go from. Not this life at all. all.

1:16:34

really, it's, you guys are blessed. guys are

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blessed Yeah, you make a good point. good Thank thank

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you. you. Oh, no. for sure. Yeah, we

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appreciate you. appreciate you on everything. I'm I'm

1:16:42

so proud of you as a friend

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and it's been so fun to

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watch you grow. Thank you. I'm excited

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