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he wanted us to break the

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record for shopput. Oh, I lost.

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I got second place and didn't

0:42

talk to me for a week.

0:44

And then we put, no, I

0:46

swear to God. Because we don't

0:48

fall in love often. We don't

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date that many guys. Yeah. We

0:52

don't date that many guys. Yeah.

0:55

We don't date that many guys.

0:57

We don't date. We don't. I

0:59

think Mike is having a crash

1:01

out. Sorry, my dad's calling, should

1:03

we answer? Yes, sly, what's

1:05

up, dude, it's Logan, what's

1:07

up, Logan and Mike? There's

1:10

no crying on private jets

1:12

in this relationship. I don't

1:14

care what happened. I don't

1:16

care what happened. My like

1:18

bucket list was go to

1:20

Six Flags. Did you? Yes.

1:22

Your podcast. I believe my

1:24

fiance was supposed to come

1:26

on it at one point. Oh.

1:28

Do you know? We

1:38

left Elie. Yeah, yeah, we live in Tulsa.

1:40

It's so close here. Oh, I hate Eliea.

1:42

Oh, wait, hey, Elie. Are you sure? Do

1:45

you like Elie? All right. I mean, it's

1:47

where I live. I'm the last

1:49

person holding the flag. Why, though? Why

1:51

do you still live there? You want to

1:53

know why? Could I give you the gods

1:55

honest reason why I still live

1:57

there? I don't like the rain and

1:59

the cold. stuff. You know, like, living

2:01

in LA is like Groundhog Day. Yes,

2:03

we've got arm burglars, masked men, with

2:05

big extended magazines. We've got homeless people

2:07

that will infest your backyard and sometimes

2:09

poop on your lawn. We've got 53%

2:11

tax rates. We've got an extremely liberal

2:13

government. We've got some real real real

2:15

issues out there. Guess what? You wake

2:18

up. And it's warm. And it's warm?

2:20

Wow. Are you seriously considering the sun

2:22

is shining over everything you just said?

2:24

You would not believe how much the

2:26

weather affects your mood. Oh, no, I

2:28

completely agree with that. I mean, we've

2:30

we have been here for three years

2:32

in New York and we've had seasonal

2:34

depression fully. We see why people are

2:36

angry in New York. Also it makes

2:38

you ugly living here. Oh, really ugly.

2:40

Everything is closed down. Socially, you're not

2:42

going to go out anywhere. I mean,

2:44

honestly, people don't even want to get

2:46

to know anybody anymore when you're in

2:48

LA. Like, everyone's kind of in their

2:50

own circle. I feel like everyone's there

2:52

for an ulterior mode of, like, what

2:55

do you do? Followers? Like, New York,

2:57

no one gives a shit. Everyone has

2:59

their own little identity here. And honestly,

3:01

if you say you're an influencer, it's

3:03

kind of looked down upon. And not.

3:05

Could you actually raise a family in

3:07

a family in a family in LA.

3:09

You could raise a tough, you could

3:11

raise a tough family. You could raise

3:13

a kid who's ready to rascal. I

3:15

mean, listen, I don't think you're gonna

3:17

have like a street fighting kid saying

3:19

he grew up in Brentwood. Like I

3:21

don't know if it's the same. I

3:23

don't even Brentwood. I mean, also Mike's

3:25

never starting a family, especially because he's

3:27

having a crash out. I am, I

3:29

am. deep in a crashout. Is that

3:31

why you were in this? No, I

3:34

was just cold because it's not LA,

3:36

so I had to put a layer

3:38

on. But I understand you have a

3:40

lot of guy friends. We're honestly obsessed

3:42

with talking about relationship stuff that I'll

3:44

be doing our podcast and honestly we're

3:46

single, so. So is this, is this.

3:48

right now. Well you're in like the

3:50

five stages of breakup grief right now

3:52

you both are in rage. No I'm

3:54

not in rage at all. Hold on

3:56

a second. Did she's rage baiting you

3:58

and so you're raging. No no no

4:00

no no no you're in dating. Someone

4:02

can rage somebody can rage bait you

4:04

you don't have to rage back like

4:06

like if you see the content that

4:08

I've been putting out. I didn't realize

4:11

that I was going to be someone's

4:13

40-year-old undiagnosed son. Can I say, well

4:15

no, I'm not raging, I'm just sad,

4:17

it's upsetting for me, you know? As

4:19

a viewer of your social media, I

4:21

have seen none of you being like

4:23

nice and sympathetic towards a situation. No,

4:25

not in a bad way, but it

4:27

just looks like you're partying and having

4:29

fun of being burgers. Like if I

4:31

was the girlfriend, I'd be like, I'd

4:33

like this. one of the hardest things

4:35

in the adult life, truthfully. I mean,

4:37

pretty much anyone would say that. It's,

4:39

it is, your person's missing. The person

4:41

that you've been with for the past

4:43

two years is now gone. You wake

4:45

up every single day, you look at

4:48

your phone, the first thing you do

4:50

is you grab your phone in the

4:52

morning, you look for that good morning,

4:54

be it's not there. And every day.

4:56

you know your heart drops because you've

4:58

been used to seeing that for so

5:00

long it's a very sad feeling right

5:02

and by the way just to kick

5:04

off right off the start here because

5:06

I know a lot of people watching

5:08

this episode are feeling this breakups are

5:10

very prevalent especially in March which we'll

5:12

talk about you're gonna talk about you're

5:14

gonna be you're gonna be okay you're

5:16

gonna be okay it's going to well

5:18

and I always say I've had heart

5:20

surgery so I always talk about like

5:22

hearts as a resemblance for relationships and

5:24

I always say when your heart breaks

5:27

a heart breaks for relationships scar tissue

5:29

builds up, patching it up, but there's

5:31

still a scar tissue, you know, it's

5:33

still very vulnerable, it's still wounded, it's

5:35

still, and I think especially as you

5:37

get older, relationships are so selective, like

5:39

I don't, Cice and I are very

5:41

picky about who we date, we are

5:43

mostly single than we are. relationships and

5:45

we don't date that. Which is ironic

5:47

because all we do is talk about

5:49

relationship. I think I'm in the same,

5:51

I'm in the same, I understand that

5:53

you feel like it's 10 years when

5:55

it's two years when you're 40 years

5:57

old. I totally understand. But I want

5:59

to touch on the point that you

6:01

guys called me out on. No matter

6:04

what I feel like, I have a

6:06

career. I have to wake up every

6:08

day, I've got multiple revenue streams, businesses

6:10

that need to be run, pod. I

6:12

got to sit down and bring out

6:14

and bring out and bring that energy.

6:16

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. terrible and

6:18

you're walking into a room and you're

6:20

you don't feel great yeah so but

6:22

I've got in years of working with

6:24

my friend here I've gotten very good

6:26

at putting on a face yeah he's

6:28

been through he's been through so much

6:30

too and right yeah you have to

6:32

show up you got to compartmentalizing I

6:34

feel like is is such a strength

6:36

if you can do it yeah I

6:38

agree and it's hard I think especially

6:41

with this where people really do look

6:43

up to you for a lot of

6:45

inspiration and they do Also want you

6:47

to talk very vulnerable about your personal

6:49

lives as a way to like gain

6:51

strength from what you do So it's

6:53

like how do you carpart analyze your

6:55

personal life without getting so Invested and

6:57

warped up where you look like you're

6:59

failing But you're also strong. It's like

7:01

you have without hurting their feelings So

7:03

if you and I were talking about

7:05

this the other day we said isn't

7:07

it so strange how you would literally

7:09

go from strangers with someone to best

7:11

friends to lovers to being intimate? to

7:13

enemies. Like that's weird. It's horrible. What

7:15

I told Mike is, and part of

7:17

like the psychological reason why I feel

7:20

like breakups are so difficult, is because,

7:22

what do they say, 30 days to

7:24

form a habit, 90 days to form

7:26

a behavior. If you're in a long-term

7:28

relationship, this person is like part of

7:30

your behind. Like, it's all you know

7:32

and love. Those morning texts is like,

7:34

that's part of the routine. That's everything.

7:36

All of a sudden, one day. It's

7:38

gone. It's gone. It's it's it's it's

7:40

kind of fucked up. It might be

7:42

like sorry. I'm just I'm sorry to

7:44

hear you growing through it. No, listen,

7:46

I'm I'm I'm I'm okay. I'm gonna

7:48

be okay. The toughness with this one

7:50

is and and by the way I

7:52

bring these topics up because they're very

7:54

very applicable. Oh, yeah. These are just

7:57

stepping stones for us to have great

7:59

conversation today, right? A lot of people

8:01

watch and they're going through the same

8:03

thing. You know how prevalent breakup tic-tockeys

8:05

and relationship prom tic-tikas you guys talk

8:07

about the stuff all the time. One

8:09

of the hardest things about this particular

8:11

one for me is like all of

8:13

my other breakups or a lot of

8:15

them were like, okay, one of us

8:17

is going to die. this relationship like

8:19

this has gotten like literally or yes

8:21

like this has gotten taught some of

8:23

them were during drug time some of

8:25

them are not but like this is

8:27

gotten toxic and and someone is you

8:29

know we're saying mean things to each

8:31

other so on and so forth this

8:34

one is like very amicable which is

8:36

really has been really difficult because there's

8:38

no catalyst yeah beyond the fact that

8:40

we just cannot stop fighting right and

8:42

we've been doing that for like I

8:44

feel like I'm gonna get so open

8:46

today and I maybe that's okay. I'm

8:48

not I'm not saying I'm not anything

8:50

anything bad because like I said I

8:52

do love her but like we I

8:54

think for so long I was I

8:56

was thinking that these fights were a

8:58

result of like her you know short

9:00

temper or Latino or age or whatever

9:02

we said she's in areas that's definitely

9:04

a part or those things but but

9:06

but more so lately I've been exploring

9:08

this I really want to talk about

9:10

it today. is how different we are

9:13

from an attachment style standpoint. Oh, and

9:15

so what's your attachment style? Do you

9:17

want to guess? Are you avoidant? I

9:19

am on that part of the spectrum.

9:21

Okay, and she's very anxious. Exactly. So,

9:23

you guys know both, you know me

9:25

better, but you've met her and we've

9:27

talked. So, so for anybody watching this,

9:29

let's talk about the four. Yeah. Attachment

9:31

types. You've got secure attachment type, which

9:33

represents about 66% of people in the

9:35

world. Right. And a lot of this

9:37

is based on how you're brought up

9:39

as a kid. So they do well

9:41

with relationships with intimacy with emotional sharing

9:43

with vulnerability. On the left side of

9:45

that is anxious people who are anxiously

9:47

attached. Yeah. people had some sort of

9:50

upbringing, you know, differential and they needed,

9:52

they need a little bit of added

9:54

reassurance in relationships because they are, they

9:56

are worried and scared of abandonment. Okay.

9:58

On the flip side and the people

10:00

who get the most heat on social

10:02

media. Okay, is the avoidant and a

10:04

lot of times this ends up being

10:06

guys They are they have commitment issues

10:08

They ghost as soon as there's a

10:10

fight or an argument of any kind

10:12

and these are usually results of upbringing

10:14

issues as well Yeah, because maybe they

10:16

weren't given the right amount of cares

10:18

from their caregivers, whatever it is, right?

10:20

And then there's another one called disorganized

10:22

which we don't have to get into

10:24

but The thing about it is, like,

10:27

everybody wants to be termed as an

10:29

avoiding or an anxious, but it's a

10:31

spectrum. It's a spectrum. It's a spectrum.

10:33

And so you can end up, I

10:35

fear slightly avoiding, but I show up,

10:37

I post, I don't hide anything, I

10:39

always there, I send all the flowers,

10:41

and I work at it. And it's

10:43

hard for me. It is, yeah. But

10:45

when you team and avoiding up with

10:47

an anxious, which is the majority, as

10:49

you guys know, is the majority of

10:51

relationships, It can be very difficult. But

10:53

I will say I do commend you

10:55

guys for taking this, not separation or

10:57

break, but like separating because I think

10:59

a lot of people struggle with, okay,

11:01

so you say it takes 90 days

11:03

to form a habit. So your guys'

11:06

habit is fighting and that's how you

11:08

depend on each other and that is

11:10

now your... conversation and a lot of

11:12

people fear the unknown right so being

11:14

single is more of a fear than

11:16

actually sticking to a relationship even though

11:18

it's so tumultuous they would rather say

11:20

in something they're so familiar with yeah

11:22

then actually breaking off and growing because

11:24

every time you do break off it

11:26

hurts it sucks but you do always

11:28

feel like you like you grow as

11:30

a human being even more so so

11:32

I do as much as it's so

11:34

hard after two years and not have

11:36

that person that weeks up to you

11:38

every single day you're not even realizing

11:40

the person you're going to become and

11:43

you're going to attract someone that is

11:45

so much more aligned to you and

11:47

she's going to talk so much more

11:49

to more aligned to him. It's gotten

11:51

to the point where you have confused

11:53

conflict with love. And you've confused passion

11:55

with love or anger or yelling with

11:57

it shows at how much I care

11:59

about you. And at the end of

12:01

the day none of that really matters.

12:03

Like do you want to wake up

12:05

because this is the worst part of

12:07

the relationship is when you break up

12:09

and you only remember the good and

12:11

you only remember the sweet sex. And

12:13

you only remember the great sex and

12:15

that's all you can think about. but

12:17

think about all of the stupid things

12:20

that maybe she got on you about

12:22

things that you had a boundary and

12:24

she kept pushing things that you pushed

12:26

on her boundaries the buttons that you

12:28

guys would hit his tolerance for that

12:30

is abnormally high really abnormal abnormally high

12:32

mine's so low I just want to

12:34

say one thing while we're on this

12:36

topic because I feel like I feel

12:38

like it's important. I'm very lucky to

12:40

have found a person who embodies this

12:42

characteristic that I feel like is the

12:44

solution to a lot of what we're

12:46

talking about. It's like a, it's a,

12:48

it's honestly a hack for women and

12:50

I'm curious if you guys have this

12:52

quality, but the quality of being conflict

12:54

avert. Oh my God. Like, like you

12:56

don't want fucking problems. And also why?

12:59

Like you're. You're not here to create

13:01

problems, you're here to create solutions and

13:03

bring us both up the mountain together.

13:05

Exactly. I'm not saying this about his

13:07

girl, but like in some of my

13:09

past relationships, I've always felt like I

13:11

was like the problem and then I

13:13

realized I'm a little bit of it

13:15

for sure, because I kind of like

13:17

conflict, but man, when I found Nina,

13:19

it was so refreshing to have been

13:21

with a girl who like... Doesn't cause

13:23

issues, right? Yeah, and it's easy. It's

13:25

so easy. You don't have to be

13:27

angry or cry or yell in a

13:29

relationship What are we doing? You can

13:31

just enjoy and I don't believe you

13:33

actually are gonna find that for a

13:36

long time. Oh, yeah So many of

13:38

those crisis relationships. You're like who is

13:40

going to be out there? That's all.

13:42

No, and then all of a sudden

13:44

you meet and it's truly this your

13:46

best friend that genuinely just goes I

13:48

just want to sit with you and

13:50

just want to sit with you and

13:52

just hang with you and just hang

13:54

with you and just hang out with

13:56

you and just hang out with you

13:58

and just hang out. how your parents

14:00

may be communicated in a relationship and

14:03

showed love and then perhaps it's one

14:05

of those things that you can either continue

14:07

that cycle and think that fighting is love

14:09

or you are the one that breaks the

14:11

cycle breaks the generational curse like oh okay

14:13

actually I'm gonna not do what they did

14:15

and find something different or wholesome I

14:18

also believe your cups both have to be full

14:20

true I always say this is where's your cup

14:22

at Mike was your cup at my cup I have

14:24

so much work to do I have so much work

14:26

to do and also like truthfully like I also mean

14:28

that in two ways. I mean on myself,

14:30

but I also mean on the planet. Like

14:33

truthfully, like I have been, I spoke with

14:35

Logan about this, maybe now is a good time.

14:37

I had a medium reach out to me

14:39

last week. Medium, a breathwork coach, someone

14:41

that I've worked with in the

14:43

past. I've just done breathwork with

14:45

her, but it was about five years

14:48

ago. Okay, her name's Hella. I'll say

14:50

her name. She's just from a

14:52

little bit more context. Lucas Mac. Lucas

14:55

Mac, who's who's. Jake's breathwork coach for all

14:57

of his fights. It's his partner. They're like kind of in

14:59

the circle and they're both very good at what they do. Amazing,

15:01

like amazing breathwork, but I hadn't spoken with her at all. And she

15:03

reached out to me while I was traveling in Austin last week

15:05

getting stem cells and she said, hey, I really need to meet

15:07

with you. Is there a time that we can meet? And I said,

15:09

yeah, I'm traveling right now, I'll be back home Monday, you can

15:11

come over, you can come over, you can come over, you, you

15:13

can come over, you can come over, you, you can come over,

15:15

you can come over, you, you can, you can come over, you can,

15:17

you can, you can, you can, you can, you can come, you

15:19

can come, you can come, you can, you can, you can come,

15:21

you can come, you can come, you can, you can come, you

15:23

can come, you can come, you can come, on her own dime to

15:25

my house and shows up at the door, sits on the couch,

15:27

we talk for like five minutes and she's like, hey

15:30

I have to tell you something right

15:32

now that's gonna be a little bit

15:34

heavy, like are you are you ready

15:36

to hear it? And like when I

15:38

get in the room with like

15:40

mediums and stuff like that, like

15:42

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No. Thank God. Actually, actually,

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probably. Probably, probably. Probably, probably,

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because we're like, I forgot about this.

31:14

I was so bitter and I canceled.

31:17

She canceled. But it's okay because

31:19

we had four other guests that day.

31:21

So it was okay. We were just

31:23

upset because we're like so excited to

31:26

meet her and have her on and

31:28

then she canceled the morning of

31:30

and we're like, oh, did she not want

31:32

to go on? She said she canceled. She

31:34

said she was sick. I think she

31:36

was sick. That's

31:39

okay, I forgive you, that's okay.

31:41

You can totally cancel again.

31:43

Hold on, we've been like

31:45

Invisible String Theory for a

31:48

long, but that's insane. Oh, I'll allow

31:50

it. Wait, sorry, isn't it? What, does

31:52

that mean like, you were like,

31:54

okay, now in her apartment or

31:56

something? Yeah, she's like, wait, you're

31:59

not, crazy. 2021, no, that's

32:01

22. And we flew to New

32:03

York, we're still living in LA,

32:06

and we booked like a bunch

32:08

of gas in New York, just

32:10

like, have on. And Nina was

32:13

like the first one, and so

32:15

we're ready, we're excited, we have

32:17

our thing out, and also we

32:20

get a call, like, she's sick,

32:22

she can't come in, and we're

32:25

so upset. We're like, I was

32:27

like, yeah, I was supposed to.

32:29

through their podcast and I canceled

32:32

because it was the morning I

32:34

met you. I was like, what?

32:37

That is insane! What a full-swing

32:39

moment. Can we talk more about

32:41

that meeting too? Because I'd love

32:44

to get into more dating stuff.

32:46

That's insane. Already insane. No, is

32:48

that a video? Oh, it's a

32:51

video. Oh my God. What? No

32:53

way? Is that your own? I

32:56

have pictures too. Shut up. Well,

32:58

we're gonna put them on the

33:00

screen. Oh my god, I hit

33:03

the dam so hard. Shut. The

33:05

hair is swooping. Oh my god,

33:07

the hair swoop was going off.

33:10

Wow guys, we have one year

33:12

ago history. I know is that

33:15

crazy because and this was last

33:17

night us seeing on their couch

33:19

that pop I know I'm surprised

33:22

things are happening right now I

33:24

know Yeah, something's happening. This is

33:26

a moment crazy. Whoa, crazy. Whoa,

33:29

crazy. Whoa, crazy. Oh, well, crazy.

33:31

No, all right. Anyway, the past

33:34

something that Logan wanted to forget

33:36

that era of that Logan wanted

33:38

to forget that era of that

33:41

era of his life. Yeah, it

33:43

really is serendipity. And now you

33:46

guys have a reality show, we

33:48

had a reality. I know. Well,

33:50

that's what. Why did you guys

33:53

accept that? Because it's, it's a

33:55

very scary thing. Ours is kind

33:57

of great. It's really fun. Thanks.

34:00

Thank you for that. We didn't

34:02

accept it. We pitched it. Oh,

34:05

well, we were off for it

34:07

and we're like, I don't know

34:09

why we're doing this. Oh, really?

34:12

No. The shortish version is because,

34:14

like, with YouTube, that era. Yeah.

34:16

My life wasn't interesting enough to,

34:19

like, like, like, I don't know, get

34:21

like a traditional TV show. I had

34:23

to manufacture content, which is why I

34:25

was so eccentric. It's like, energy, oh,

34:27

damn, damn, damn, damn, stupid, erga, right?

34:29

It worked. But yeah, it worked. It

34:31

definitely worked. I faked it till I

34:33

made it. And I felt like at

34:35

some point. My life got interesting enough

34:37

where I was like this feels like

34:39

and this is gonna sound arrogant coming

34:41

from me But I try to look

34:43

at like stories like as objectively as

34:45

possible But looking at my life from

34:47

the outside I want you know what?

34:49

Have the fiance now brothers got the

34:52

speeds getting Olympic girlfriend. I'm about to

34:54

be a dad W W E champion

34:56

on the I was like you know

34:58

what I think I'm at a point

35:00

where like this is and I think

35:02

it's an interesting story. Yeah and I

35:04

have this like I feel

35:06

compelled to document. I have since I

35:08

was like nine. And so I'm like,

35:10

you know what? If I could document

35:12

on like a bigger format with my

35:15

family and finally come together with my

35:17

brother who we've never like really done

35:19

anything together. Right. I think we could

35:21

tell a pretty interesting story. I think

35:23

it's a great idea. We always described

35:25

ours as the greatest home movie ever.

35:28

Yeah. So something you're going to look

35:30

back with all your kids and your

35:32

parents and your parents and you're like.

35:34

What are some challenges that they could

35:36

look forward to being a part of?

35:38

You know, everyone has an opinion, but

35:41

I feel like you guys are so...

35:43

Well, they're already out there. How about

35:45

on the industry, like on the production

35:47

side? I think what we really honed

35:49

in on was making sure we had

35:51

creative control. Yeah. We really made sure

35:54

we had editing rights that things weren't

35:56

manipulated. We had our fingers in every

35:58

single canvas show. Yeah, we're... Like I

36:00

did the scoring for the show. We

36:02

sat in the scoring for the show.

36:04

for eight hours for every episode like

36:07

we were like everything that you know

36:09

what I though because it's well we

36:11

have so you know such a long

36:13

prolific career right and we didn't want

36:15

to come out with anything that would

36:17

pertain to it or ruin it like

36:20

yeah you don't want him to be

36:22

remembered because he had that really crappy

36:24

reality show yeah so if we were

36:26

gonna do it we wanted to do

36:28

it right and What we loved about

36:30

ours is he really wanted to break

36:33

the fourth wall. So it kind of

36:35

felt like office style where he'd look

36:37

into the camera and make a face.

36:39

I would say the hardest part is

36:41

pushing back. I mean, but you guys,

36:43

the difference is, is like they are,

36:46

they're so themselves already on the internet,

36:48

whereas we have to keep some things

36:50

to ourselves just to protect our family

36:52

and like our. What would you say,

36:54

what would you say that split is

36:56

between what you're willing to show to

36:59

the public and the side of your

37:01

life that you want to keep personal?

37:03

percent did you want? Well relationships were,

37:05

oh my god, that was the biggest

37:07

one. Oh both our boyfriends, like we

37:09

had panic attacks, yeah, yeah, it's just

37:12

I think what's hard is like we're

37:14

not so in the public eye where

37:16

our personal lives can be meshing well

37:18

with the public life like our relationships

37:20

none of them wanted to be on

37:22

the show like you guys have relationships

37:25

that would be open to doing it

37:27

and supporting it even if she didn't

37:29

want to do it like she didn't

37:31

want to do it but like she's

37:33

like I still I love I love

37:35

you I support you like this is

37:38

your life like I know I'm marrying

37:40

it too yeah we didn't have that

37:42

support and I think also having to

37:44

navigate his past and knowing like how

37:46

much he won to see the child

37:49

of acting erratic and drunk. Yeah, yeah,

37:51

yeah, yeah. And we're so not that

37:53

we're bad by nine o'clock. We're in

37:55

bed by nine o'clock. You guys took

37:57

no. We're too good. You turn up

37:59

sometimes. No, I enjoyed it, but they

38:02

would say stuff like, okay, I want

38:04

you to like get really drunk skinny

38:06

dip in your pool and call your

38:08

ex. And I was like, no, like,

38:10

even though it would be TV gold,

38:12

they would. You know, like, I want

38:15

to be a mom one day. I

38:17

don't want them to be like mom.

38:19

What was this? What moms don't? Girls

38:21

on wild. Not my, not mine, type.

38:23

I'll, I'll do, I'll do that, but

38:25

it'll be unprompted. Because you've already done

38:28

it. You're used to do it. Yeah,

38:30

that's true. Yeah. Like you're already doing

38:32

skydives and backlips off. We're trying to

38:34

get a husband. We can't be out

38:36

there doing crazy. I want to ask

38:38

about that for a second. I also

38:41

want to let Mike speak, but I

38:43

am curious just really quickly because you

38:45

keep calling him sly. Oh yeah. That

38:47

doesn't bother him? No. You know what's...

38:49

It's like he's like surpassed father. He's

38:51

just like sly. I don't know. I

38:54

think when people, because people always ask

38:56

about him, that's calling him like, dad

38:58

seems kind of strange when you know

39:00

him as sly. I call my dad

39:02

Greg, because you're like, yeah, but he

39:04

has an issue with it. Oh, really?

39:07

My dad doesn't, yeah, he doesn't have

39:09

an issue. Come on Pops. That's classic.

39:11

I call them pops. Pops is old.

39:13

I know, I'm old. I sometimes sit

39:15

down with them, we have supper together,

39:17

we watch our favorite program. Pops. Are

39:20

we going to get a roofier float

39:22

after? What are you going to be

39:24

like 40 years old? You know, so

39:26

yeah, I'll probably bite him, some meatloaf,

39:28

get a meatloaf, get a flow. What

39:30

age do people start to like soft

39:33

food, like meatloaf, past? Jello. I'm there.

39:35

Cup of milk! Cup of milk! Right

39:37

now, I'm there right now, go watch

39:39

Jeopardy! What kind of milk, what kind

39:41

of milk are you drinking? Not fucking

39:43

almond milk. Okay, I'll tell you this,

39:46

Sophia and I posted this one clip

39:48

on our... our podcast. It blew up,

39:50

but every guy shit on us because

39:52

we said that what happened to manly

39:54

men just drinking 2% of whole milk.

39:56

I think it's hot. If we're out

39:59

if we're out at a cafe. I

40:01

pay facts. How is that a hot

40:03

take? Hot take. Hot take. With a

40:05

guy. And he goes, I would like

40:07

an almond milk. No. Oh, milk. Do

40:09

you know what milk is? Milk is

40:12

a term. It is a product that

40:14

comes from a cow. You are not

40:16

drinking almond milk, you are drinking. chalk.

40:18

No, you're not only water. You can't

40:20

just put milk. No, that's like saying

40:22

this is a glass car. That's not

40:25

true. It's not fucking. It's not almond

40:27

milk. What did it come out of

40:29

a fucking cat? Like, oh, yeah, I

40:31

want cow's milk in my coffee. I'm

40:33

like, oh, yeah. Yeah. Come on, what

40:35

do you mean, like, I'll have a

40:38

Frappuccino blended with a little. That's a

40:40

good that's a good question. She said

40:42

he's rugged. He's rugged. I got a

40:44

good build off right there for you.

40:46

Where do where do some things that

40:48

would be considered? Red flags for some

40:51

girls become green flags for others and

40:53

do girls always tell the truth about

40:55

their flag styles? No, we do not.

40:57

No, we do not. No. Clearly, because

40:59

we scream like every time like someone

41:01

says that you're asking where do we

41:04

find red flags that eventually become green

41:06

flags? No, I mean, or I guess

41:08

first and foremost, do you always tell

41:10

the truth about what you consider red

41:12

flag and do you stand by your

41:14

value? Oh, no, no. See, I have

41:17

a list of non-negotibles on my phone.

41:19

Have not listened to one of them.

41:21

So you're like, I literally go to

41:23

the opposite. So they definitely are negotiable.

41:25

Yeah, I mean by all negotiable. I

41:27

have to like you enough for those

41:30

flags to become like yellow. You are

41:32

a bit pickier than me, which I

41:34

respect. Which I respect. Which I respect.

41:36

Which I respect. I will go. And

41:38

I'll go. If he's funny. Yeah, yeah,

41:40

like mine. Is that, yeah, you just

41:43

describe me perfectly. You're not ugly. Thank

41:45

you. Logan just likes to throw that

41:47

out because charming. You know what it

41:49

is, we always say, it's more so.

41:51

I feel like I don't date the

41:53

people because I want to date them

41:56

like what would my parents think like

41:58

everyone has a different requirement in our

42:00

family and we're so close it's like

42:02

yes unfortunate like to see you want

42:04

someone that's funny so I'm like okay

42:06

it's funny guy doesn't every girl want

42:09

that yes but no but some girls

42:11

want to be the funnier one or

42:13

some girls want a guy like Louise

42:15

sits home and doesn't do anything but

42:17

then okay then my He just wants

42:19

like a beautiful specimen that can like

42:22

make hot babies for us and like

42:24

he has like a like a strong

42:26

lineage like that. That can golf. Throw

42:28

shop. No, no, no. You'll get in

42:30

trouble. My dad is very not PC.

42:32

Very honest. He's very, you guys actually

42:35

would love him. Yeah. Can we meet

42:37

him here on the show? Honestly, he's

42:39

shooting Tulsa King right now. I love

42:41

that. So great. Wait a second. Who

42:43

is who you're on who you're on

42:45

it? Charlotte, the young. Yeah. You're the

42:48

closest look wise. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

42:50

I look like Charlotte. But no, he's

42:52

hilarious. He's so you guys. You guys

42:54

with wacky. Everything like if you want

42:56

to know anything about everything is a

42:58

savant. We have a lot of feet.

43:01

He's funny. Yeah. You guys should. He

43:03

would love. Our producer says we'll go

43:05

to the set. Should I try? Yeah,

43:07

try Paul. By the way, he loves

43:09

you. I mean, he talks about you,

43:11

Jake, you, like all of you guys,

43:14

like all the time he thinks he

43:16

respects the hell. You too. He thinks

43:18

that he might be on set. Let

43:20

me see. What a guy? Yeah, you

43:22

should just call. Wait, this would be

43:24

crazy. Should I just call not even?

43:27

Yeah, should just call, wait, this be

43:29

crazy. Should I think he might be

43:31

on. I feel like he might be

43:33

filming. Is season two out? Yeah, yeah,

43:35

season three is filming right now. Okay,

43:37

season four is gonna be right after.

43:40

I binged whatever's out. Yeah, so he's

43:42

not answering. He'll probably call back in

43:44

a second because he's obsessed with his

43:46

phone. He's honestly like an iPad kid.

43:48

Can we go? Oh, that's amazing. Wait,

43:50

wait, I want to hear some non-negotiables.

43:53

Oh, they're kind of, I have to.

43:55

Say what you get you could pick

43:57

and choose. Okay. Okay. I'll pick and

43:59

choose so people you have some too

44:01

So just me. Oh, I like my

44:04

list my absolute fuckness But I do

44:06

all of these. Okay. Absolutely not. Doesn't

44:08

make me laugh. Doesn't ask questions and

44:10

keep the conversation going. Don't ask questions

44:12

on days of us. Isn't that interesting?

44:14

It's so weird. I'm like, I know

44:17

everything about you. I asked about your

44:19

grandparents. I know about your job. I

44:21

know about your college and how about

44:23

your friend group. I'm sitting there not

44:25

one question. Can I say? The fact

44:27

that you guys are podcast hosts is

44:30

like a major strength for you. Oh

44:32

my God, the conversation probably has to

44:34

be so weird. Oh, it has to

44:36

be so strong. You have to be

44:38

so witty with us. Like you have

44:40

to honestly make fun of like a

44:43

wall with us. Like you have to

44:45

make fun of like a wall with

44:47

us. Like you have to make fun

44:49

of a person back. Tell me what

44:51

they're doing right now. Give me a

44:53

scenario. Like we need to have that

44:56

banter. I think we've talked to each

44:58

other. Let's see, I have no fun

45:00

banter, doesn't have no fun banter, doesn't

45:02

have a real job. And you know

45:04

what I mean, like if they say

45:06

like, entrepreneur, or photographer, no offense of

45:09

photography, but like, when they're not actual

45:11

photographers, like they just take pictures of

45:13

their iPhones. Oh, well, that's like me.

45:15

Needs to look like a man. What

45:17

did I want? You have to drink

45:19

2% milk. Whole milk, you really want

45:22

to be rugged. If there's no follow-up

45:24

text the night of, I think that

45:26

is really important. I think a lot

45:28

of guys overstep on that one. Oh,

45:30

bad style. I hate a guy with

45:32

that style. What do you mean, not

45:35

always? What are you? Yes. I will

45:37

say thank you. I hear you. I

45:39

think you're right. My fiance, Nina, has

45:41

thanked me. You're taking the wrong people

45:43

on date. I will say, I will

45:45

say, I hear you, and I think

45:48

you're right. My fiance, Nina, has thanked

45:50

me and still thanks me to me

45:52

to this day for every single thing

45:54

that I think for. It goes that

45:56

a long way. Have you guys gone

45:58

out with girls that don't say things?

46:01

They exist. that's crazy because we actually

46:03

do say thank you wait what that's

46:05

like a bare minimum but like text

46:07

me at the end of the day

46:09

being like did you get home safe

46:11

like that's what I'm talking about I

46:14

think I think it's a courtesy Dylan

46:16

like like it comes you know what

46:18

comes down to my opinion just being

46:20

a gentleman like exactly wait a second

46:22

I'm I'm sending flowers I send flowers

46:24

all the time I sent his his

46:27

daughter and his wife, florke flowers last

46:29

week. One of my favorite things to

46:31

do was to send Sarah flowers. I

46:33

would send flowers with messages. So we

46:35

highly get flowers for an apology. Yeah.

46:37

That's been the hardest part about her

46:40

guys. That's been the hardest part about

46:42

my situation recently and he can attest

46:44

to this. I actually am a really

46:46

good boyfriend. I feel like I can

46:48

see that. To an extent. It's interesting.

46:50

it's not the right relationship because you

46:53

have to force yourself. I feel like

46:55

things just to, no, you would say,

46:57

you would say that, but if you

46:59

have some of the, um, some of

47:01

the like vulnerabilities and the issues that

47:03

I deal with my life, such as

47:06

like, really bad anxiety, which turned out,

47:08

I have horrible anxiety. I sometimes, sometimes

47:10

some of the things that like would

47:12

be normal, normal, like. this desire to

47:14

do stuff sometimes is met with a

47:16

resistance that's hard to explain right and

47:19

so I do sometimes have to be

47:21

like yo it would be you know

47:23

it would be a good thing to

47:25

do X Y and Z today and

47:27

I know that's not the ideal situation

47:29

but that's the life that I live

47:32

unfortunately what are you looking for? Well

47:34

that's what's your plan so I was

47:36

gonna spit this question back at you

47:38

to no to because your list of

47:40

non-negotibles was it was extremely first date

47:42

focused right and so I want to

47:45

talk to a little bit more about

47:47

your like your long-term goal non-negotiables. Like

47:49

we talked about earlier in the episode,

47:51

a huge one for me, and is

47:53

a big part of my list, especially

47:55

right now, is like slow to anger.

47:58

Ability to absorb, think through, and approach

48:00

a situation calmly in a private setting

48:02

as opposed to in a public place.

48:04

mature. That has to, that is so

48:06

so important and and even more so

48:08

like this avoidance altercation altogether. Like dude

48:11

I was a fucking hero I should

48:13

not be here. Everything that happens in

48:15

my life is a blessing, a plain

48:17

delay. get landing at the wrong airport

48:19

because there's a medical emergency something happening

48:21

in the bar that shouldn't have none

48:24

of that ever appears to me as

48:26

something that I need to talk or

48:28

even think about I'm so thankful to

48:30

be here that I can't ever think

48:32

about arguing with someone that I love

48:34

and and look at I'm just like

48:37

you're so beautiful so insignificant work dude

48:39

I remember I'm trying to be as

48:41

politically correct as possible but I had

48:43

that conversation whether on the jet from

48:45

Vancouver yeah and I said yo I'm

48:47

putting a rule out there right now

48:50

There's no crying on private jets in

48:52

this relationship. I don't care what happens.

48:54

I don't care what Okay, we are

48:56

on a G5 50 right now flying

48:58

from Vancouver to Opalaka Miami I'm about

49:00

we just left five star skiers resort

49:03

where we probably were eating have you

49:05

are an a6 wag you what are

49:07

we crying about I feel like that

49:09

should be an unspoken what are we

49:11

fucking crying about right now? I'm sorry.

49:13

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That was my

49:16

age moment. That's valid. Like, are you

49:18

kidding? That's the most amazing blessing to

49:20

ever have that we're in this position

49:22

where we get to experience these things

49:24

at 99% in the world. I sold

49:26

crack! Are you fucking serious? I didn't

49:29

think I was ever gonna try a

49:31

steak. Roles of brillo pads and break

49:33

them apart and stuff them into a

49:35

pipe and light the chemicals on fire

49:37

Well, I slept on a couch that

49:39

had holes in it that itched I'm

49:42

not laughing at you seduction tricks and

49:44

we're like I smoked crack. I don't

49:46

know this is great. My bucket list

49:48

was go to six flags. Did you?

49:50

Yes! Yeah! So when I'm so when

49:52

I'm out and like as soon as

49:55

for this is for any relationship not

49:57

to pin it in the past one

49:59

you guys know this you know everyone

50:01

in this room knows this my energy

50:03

is my is my goal. I walk

50:05

in a room, my goal is to

50:08

own every single, dominate every single room

50:10

that I walk into. And I will,

50:12

I will. I do not believe that

50:14

there is a greater room worker on

50:16

this planet than me right now. It's

50:18

my strongest goal. Your guys are here

50:21

because of the relationship we built in

50:23

a room. Yeah. Can I, can that

50:25

be explained to me for a second?

50:27

Like how we met? Yeah. It was

50:29

him up to us at us at.

50:32

It was F1 in Miami, and we

50:34

shit our pants. You're like, nobody knows

50:36

us. Yeah, I was like, guys are,

50:38

we had a conversation, it went swimmingly

50:40

because the energy and how high the

50:42

bodies were. Exactly. And we kept in

50:45

contact and now here we are because

50:47

I rely on positive energy. So when

50:49

something, whether it's right, I believe it's

50:51

right, the world believes it's right, when

50:53

something starts to cause my energy to

50:55

dip. I get very resentful towards that

50:58

because this is this right here that

51:00

you guys are witnessing is everything I

51:02

got. There's no master's degree, there's no

51:04

classical training. I am not great at

51:06

anything besides perseverance and being great. You

51:08

know what you need, which is I

51:11

always say what I'm really looking for

51:13

in a relationship, which I haven't found

51:15

yet, is someone that allows me the

51:17

freedom to be exactly who I want

51:19

to go off and like I'm a

51:21

person that I have like a hundred

51:24

passions in my head. Like I do,

51:26

Sistine I are doing four different careers

51:28

right now at the same time, like

51:30

all we're focused on his work. We're

51:32

always wanting to be the loudest in

51:34

the room. We're always wanted to take

51:37

over a takeover situation. but we also

51:39

want someone to be there that could

51:41

ground us, but give us that freedom,

51:43

but also that we respect. It's a

51:45

huge ask. It's a huge ask. And

51:47

that's why I don't fall. That's why

51:50

I don't fall from my past let

51:52

at all. But that's why I say.

51:54

But that's why I say you have

51:56

to find someone with their glass full.

51:58

Like they have such a feeling like

52:00

themselves that they don't feel like the

52:03

need to take you down, question you,

52:05

go like, are you doing this, not

52:07

trust you? Because if they already feel

52:09

like they're doing so well in their

52:11

life, they're not going to push you

52:13

back. I love him for being just

52:16

exactly who he is, like the freedom,

52:18

I respect it. It turns me on,

52:20

but then you come home and she's

52:22

not like fighting you on the things

52:24

that who you naturally are. There's of

52:26

course things you need to work on.

52:29

There's things you need to work on.

52:31

There's things I need to work on.

52:33

There's things I need to work on.

52:35

There's things I need to work on.

52:37

There's things I need to work on.

52:39

There's things you need to work on.

52:42

There's things I need to work on.

52:44

I don't. I don't know. understand that

52:46

about me kind of pull back and

52:48

like that's not who I am in

52:50

my core like let's go through this

52:52

and talk like rational human beings and

52:55

so it's a hard ask because a

52:57

lot of people are like that I

52:59

think a lot more people are insecure

53:01

and also I feel bad for you

53:03

for breaking up in 2025 it's impossible

53:05

to move on when you're in a

53:08

social media relationship and by way everything

53:10

is like a little message is like

53:12

the music they use in the background

53:14

for songs it's like that you were

53:16

setting us tiktocks today like this is

53:18

us well be my excellent yeah well

53:21

because I'm in that stage but it

53:23

but let me tell you something I

53:25

do have I do have some classical

53:27

training okay in social media breakups some

53:29

would say that my last breakup was

53:31

a bigger story line from a social

53:34

media question would you ever considered not

53:36

going out with someone I met her

53:38

with 1, 1,200 followers private on posting

53:40

now posting I've never posted one really

53:42

next one like that's my next one

53:44

keeping it low-key like we've never posted

53:47

it's a it's pretty low-key even though

53:49

it's like now it's not like with

53:51

the really reality show but before like

53:53

you guys would post like the highlights

53:55

of our like a relationship together like

53:57

maybe sometimes you'd do some fun things

54:00

but it wasn't, I don't know, maybe

54:02

in like the circumstance, like

54:05

situationally, I feel like it was.

54:07

No, no, you're right, like I share

54:09

almost everything in my life. We kept

54:11

that very sacred for a very long

54:13

time until it was like, okay, you're

54:16

here to stay. Exactly. Like, let's

54:18

go. He's in a position where.

54:20

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is

54:22

kind of important to you correct to have

54:24

your significant other be a part of your

54:26

life because your life is your content your

54:29

country life Right right now and in the

54:31

past in the past few years But as

54:33

I start to adult a little bit more

54:35

and move into this mental health and the

54:37

substance space and really try to own that

54:39

space I can see a world where that's

54:41

not the case. Well you can never

54:43

date someone in the same industry or

54:45

business. It's always going to be

54:48

competitive because you do have like

54:50

kind of like alpha personalities like

54:52

like like you said you're

54:54

raised like boys we wear

54:57

the pants unfortunately I wanted

54:59

to ask yeah like are you

55:01

attracted to guys who also are alphas

55:03

or are you attracted to guys

55:05

who are more like submissive and

55:08

and when you do date a

55:10

guy who Maybe isn't doing as

55:12

well as you or isn't as

55:14

articulate and is kind of like

55:16

the more submissive in the relationship.

55:18

Sorry, my dad's calling, should we

55:21

answer? Yes, he's in a sly. So

55:23

dad, you're on impulsive right now,

55:25

if you want to say hello.

55:27

You're on impulsive! Sly, what's up,

55:29

dude? It's Logan! What's up? He's

55:33

in Australia watching

55:35

Austin Powers. That's

55:37

what I have

55:39

to do between

55:41

things Hey, amazing.

55:43

It's not it's

55:45

such such a

55:47

pleasure to meet

55:49

you dude. Your

55:51

daughters are incredible.

55:53

You've done an

55:55

amazing job in

55:57

raising them Thanks You

56:00

know I was fascinated with wrestling I

56:02

did a movie about it called Paradise

56:04

Sally and people really don't understand how

56:06

athletic you guys are and what you

56:09

have to put up with. They go

56:11

oh it's fake I go really gravity

56:13

is fake. I appreciate that no I

56:16

think I think people are being more

56:18

and more turned on to the reality

56:20

that is professional wrestling it's it's really

56:22

hard it's a really tough discipline. It's

56:25

the hardest man I have. Thank

56:28

you, ma'am. Hey, Sly, you

56:31

should be very proud of

56:33

your daughters. They're absolutely incredible

56:35

people. We're talking about, you

56:38

know, your routines and your

56:40

regiments and how they learn

56:43

shophood as kids. And you've

56:45

got incredible, incredible kids, Sly.

56:47

They are, well, the mother

56:50

is responsible. Hi, how are

56:52

you? Oh, and there's a

56:55

dog, too. There's great kind

56:57

of. I

57:02

think it's much better because and the

57:04

first two cheeses I had to be

57:06

almost in every scene now we have

57:08

other actors so it's you know as

57:10

they say the tapestry is getting broader.

57:13

Oh I love it I'm a fan

57:15

of the show man it was such

57:17

a pleasure to meet you likewise. All

57:19

right take it easy boss. We'll wake

57:21

up soon. Amazing. Bye's I love you.

57:23

That was still best. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

57:25

Rocky. Rocky, that's Rambo. He would love

57:27

to be sitting on this couch right

57:29

now. Yeah, I want to hang out.

57:32

My dad is gonna freak out. Like

57:34

that's like, my dad would go to

57:36

the theater at like 12am by himself

57:38

to watch every new. Oh. That's really

57:40

cool. Like he's gonna, your dad too?

57:42

Are you serious? My dad loved Rambo?

57:44

Rambo. He told us he's like, I

57:46

want to raise Rambalinas. We're like, okay.

57:48

No, seriously, it's like everything that he

57:51

does. He's so method in his work

57:53

that before any role, he truly is

57:55

that person. at least two months in

57:57

the house. So even before Rambo, imagine

57:59

like we're like girls. He's method acting

58:01

as Rambo. A guy. No, literally. Remember,

58:03

Rambo spoke three words in the whole

58:05

film. So it's like for three months,

58:07

we're like dad. And he's like, Rambo

58:10

at the table, not speaking. You definitely

58:12

could take some notes from this. Like

58:14

you 100. Well, not that one. to

58:16

be the most like well-rounded, grounded, humble

58:18

woman who still wants to work hard

58:20

because by the way, she's gonna have

58:22

everything. Yeah, she's gonna have everything. You

58:24

honestly need rules, you need curfews, you

58:26

need sports, because that teaches students. And

58:29

also consistency, my parents made us eat

58:31

dinner with them every single night at

58:33

5 to 3. Every single day. And

58:35

that was the only reason why in

58:37

this whole industry we didn't turn out

58:39

to be these spoiled, rich nephew kids,

58:41

where we felt entitled for everything that

58:43

we did. It was, and we were,

58:46

like, we first off acknowledged how blessed

58:48

we are, we're like, we wouldn't be

58:50

in this position without him, obviously. And

58:52

like, we're so owning that, but we're

58:54

gonna do the best that we can

58:56

when we get to this position. You

58:58

know, we're gonna be the best. And

59:00

yeah, and so that's how you think

59:02

what it is, is like, letting your

59:05

daughter know, like, family is everything. them

59:07

being there. Just always be there. And

59:09

like that's what she'll take away from

59:11

it. You guys have amazing parents. You

59:13

do. We're really lucky. You're the product

59:15

of really good parents. Thank you. Like

59:17

we said it to him, but I'll

59:19

just say it again, like, man, your

59:21

mom and him did such a good

59:24

job. Thank you. They did. And I

59:26

think you guys are going to be

59:28

such. Such great parents. Yeah, I think

59:30

so. Because he already is. No, because

59:32

you're already asking like this and asking.

59:34

Yeah, like you already care enough to

59:36

like want your daughter to be like

59:38

that. Yeah. She's gonna become like that.

59:40

I need I have a lot more

59:43

work. Although Al Pacino just did give

59:45

me a lot of hope. He just

59:47

had a kid of 82. Oh, that's

59:49

true. So that gives me another of

59:51

my lifetime. Mike, your wife could be

59:53

learning cursive right now. So you have

59:55

time. you know a lot of time

59:57

that's a wife but she knows wife

1:00:00

like 20 yes and honestly also I

1:00:02

think that I saw a video with

1:00:04

Cameron Diaz and she was like if

1:00:06

I had a kid at 20 I

1:00:08

would never be as good of the

1:00:10

mom if I had them oh of

1:00:12

course yeah I'm like let your timeline

1:00:14

be your timeline who gives a shit

1:00:16

when anyone's saying like oh the links

1:00:19

where do he needs that you don't

1:00:21

know you're not ready for that right

1:00:23

now who cares I really I really

1:00:25

do not I really do not I

1:00:27

really do not like I really doing

1:00:29

shows for Amazon doing a podcast with

1:00:31

steam writing books loving it right now

1:00:33

I'll have a kid have a kid

1:00:35

it's fine wait so on that note

1:00:38

again I just want to get I

1:00:40

want to finish that conversation because you're

1:00:42

doing so many things yeah is that

1:00:44

intimidating for men extremely yep and at

1:00:46

first they admire it and they go

1:00:48

wow she's doing so much and I

1:00:50

feel like when they sit and ruminate

1:00:52

a little long on it gets pretty

1:00:54

an insecurity comes out where they say

1:00:57

when will you have time for me

1:00:59

and And by the way, I don't

1:01:01

care, aren't I? And this is a

1:01:03

thing. Sistine and I, when we're in

1:01:05

relationships, we love heart, because we don't

1:01:07

fall in love often. Like, we don't

1:01:09

date that many guys, we don't have

1:01:11

a lot of boyfriends. You date the

1:01:13

family. So when we do love you,

1:01:16

it's everything to us. But the problem

1:01:18

is, is like... the comparison that they

1:01:20

feel. They think, we never tell them

1:01:22

be better, do better. And by the

1:01:24

way, I don't want the guy that's,

1:01:26

I don't want to do an actor,

1:01:28

I'll never do a doctor. I don't

1:01:30

want to date a guy that's not

1:01:33

offense to you guys, but I don't

1:01:35

want to date a guy that's like

1:01:37

in front of the camera ever. She

1:01:39

wants like a boring guy. Like Iowa

1:01:41

corn fed grass fed grass fed like

1:01:43

good boy. I just know I want

1:01:45

a guy that is super super passionate

1:01:47

in whatever he's doing in his career

1:01:49

that he's so confident in his field

1:01:52

that when he's with me he's like

1:01:54

I can take care of you like

1:01:56

in that way not someone who's public

1:01:58

facing. No I don't need like someone

1:02:00

that has a trillion dollars it's like

1:02:02

hilling it in his career like look

1:02:04

I already know where I am. Why

1:02:06

are you looking at it? Why are

1:02:08

you? Because I gotta say this. I

1:02:11

mean, it's never been so apparent to

1:02:13

me in all of our country. Y'all

1:02:15

have such different types. You're trouble. You're

1:02:17

troubled. You're troubled. Everyone does. You are

1:02:19

in trouble. But I had to go

1:02:21

yesterday. I was like, I'll promise on

1:02:23

my podcast. It's like, I'm more the

1:02:25

girl at the time, like mental health,

1:02:27

the older sister advice. She comes in,

1:02:30

she's like, wrap poisoning his ass. Like,

1:02:32

no, hold on. First of all, I

1:02:34

do think we play a role sometimes

1:02:36

and we're in front of a camera.

1:02:38

Oh my God. This is our. picker,

1:02:40

at least not even a player. No,

1:02:42

but we have the most opposite types.

1:02:44

We would never go for the same.

1:02:47

Oh, we've never had the same thing.

1:02:49

So you, so if that's true, you,

1:02:51

you're like, would you date? But wait,

1:02:53

would you date an NBA player? No,

1:02:55

no athletes, because I want to talk.

1:02:57

I like NFL. You have like long,

1:02:59

I want to learn, like, their play

1:03:01

routine. Like, I want to learn something

1:03:03

different. Do you think athletes are boring?

1:03:06

No. They're just not my speed. You

1:03:08

would go out with an athlete. Don't

1:03:10

say silent right there. You want any

1:03:12

laughs. I didn't. Take them from someone

1:03:14

who talks to a bunch of girls

1:03:16

at day athletes. You guys already know.

1:03:18

They are, they are the biggest nightmare.

1:03:20

There's no bigger. I can't deal with

1:03:22

the two phones. I'll break. No, I'll

1:03:25

break. No, I'll break. Yeah, no, I'll

1:03:27

play. Our biggest thing is intelligence. That's

1:03:29

it. Like we want a guy that's

1:03:31

actually smart. Or at least if he

1:03:33

doesn't know everything, he absorbs everything. Or

1:03:35

at least if he doesn't know everything,

1:03:37

that's a huge sign of intelligence. Yeah.

1:03:39

How many times have you have been

1:03:41

a bit of cross-sitting from a cross-sitting

1:03:44

from a cross-sitting from a cross-sitting from

1:03:46

a cross-sitting from a female-sitting from a

1:03:48

female-sitting from a female-sitting from a female-s.

1:03:50

I think there's even a level of

1:03:52

elevation. You said you like guys to

1:03:54

ask questions. I think if you're a

1:03:56

true conversationalist, you should have a conversation

1:03:58

that evokes responses. I don't even want

1:04:00

to have to ask for what you

1:04:03

do for a living. It's just going

1:04:05

to pour out in the conversation. That

1:04:07

is like the, like what we're doing

1:04:09

right now. Like if you have a

1:04:11

conversation like this on a first date,

1:04:13

you're like, okay, wow, this is. Yeah,

1:04:15

exactly. It would be. No, I'll tell

1:04:17

you this. I feel like we've a

1:04:20

lot of the earlier generation. We lost

1:04:22

the art of conversation. I feel like

1:04:24

we're lost the art of conversation. I

1:04:26

feel like we're so heavily influenced by

1:04:28

like social media texting and face timing

1:04:30

that I mean even when you face

1:04:32

time a guy before a guy before

1:04:34

a guy before a guy before a

1:04:36

day. You think. I just feel like

1:04:39

it's, I don't know how people are

1:04:41

going to become better at this, especially

1:04:43

like our kids. No, and just the

1:04:45

temptation and the option accessibility. Yeah, I,

1:04:47

my God, I love my I, I

1:04:49

name for Charlotte. It's a problem. I

1:04:51

use, I use, I use, I use,

1:04:53

I use 4.0 chat. Oh yeah. I

1:04:55

use, oh yeah. I use 4.0 chat.

1:04:58

Oh yeah. She talks to Charlotte, I

1:05:00

mean for Charlotte. It's a problem. What

1:05:02

Aid, what Aid, what Aid, what Aid,

1:05:04

what Aid, what, what, what, what, what,

1:05:06

what, what, what, what, what, what, what,

1:05:08

what, what, what, what, what, what, what,

1:05:10

what, what, what, what, what, what, what,

1:05:12

what, what, what, what, what, what, what,

1:05:14

what, what, what, what, what, what, what,

1:05:17

what, what, what, what, what, what, That's

1:05:19

incredible. Yeah, it was great. Well, she

1:05:21

knows you. She knows me so well.

1:05:23

And I'm sure you can ask her

1:05:25

questions about areas where she has identified

1:05:27

weaknesses and areas for you to improve.

1:05:29

Oh, it does not. You have a

1:05:31

really powerful dialogue with it. Oh, no.

1:05:34

It's incredible. I'm like so invested in

1:05:36

all of this world. Like, there was

1:05:38

something I wanted to invest in years

1:05:40

ago was crisper. And I think crisper.

1:05:42

I loved that. I wrote a paper

1:05:44

on it when I was in college

1:05:46

when I was in college. What? Is

1:05:48

that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a

1:05:50

good thing I didn't. By the way,

1:05:53

they were able in China to get

1:05:55

two female rats to have a baby

1:05:57

together. Men are screwed in the next

1:05:59

like 30 years. But we love them.

1:06:01

We need them. We need them. I

1:06:03

just want to ask a question about

1:06:05

men. Yeah, modern day, the modern day

1:06:07

male. So there's this narrative online that

1:06:09

like, masculinity is being suppressed and like,

1:06:12

it's been the death of the modern

1:06:14

day male softening of men. I definitely

1:06:16

think there's part of that that exists

1:06:18

and it has affected a lot of

1:06:20

guys around there. Are you seeing that

1:06:22

from like a dating perspective? guys order

1:06:24

the almond milk you're like oh this

1:06:26

smoke look we obviously if a guy

1:06:28

orders almond milk we don't care but

1:06:31

yeah I feel like we're not we're

1:06:33

not we're not like or not that

1:06:35

bitch you were just laying on it

1:06:37

no I I do I do think

1:06:39

the art of just chivalry is dead

1:06:41

I do think caring or putting your

1:06:43

eggs in a basket or being forthright

1:06:45

about your emotions is dead I actually

1:06:47

will say against girls I think girls

1:06:50

man shame a lot. Like I think

1:06:52

there's a lot of like anger against

1:06:54

men like I saw someone do a

1:06:56

video the other day like what's the

1:06:58

best skincare for guys like a guy

1:07:00

asked and she goes for them to

1:07:02

not talk like things like that I

1:07:04

just don't love that I just don't

1:07:07

love that and I just don't love

1:07:09

that and I like I love guys

1:07:11

I think you guys are awesome like

1:07:13

are you guys perfect no you guys

1:07:15

should be suppressed like I don't think

1:07:17

you guys should hold back anything like

1:07:19

you guys should hold back anything like

1:07:21

If you're affected so deeply, even just

1:07:23

once, twice three times by like a

1:07:26

man, it's very easy to generalize and

1:07:28

then... Yeah, of course. Like that just,

1:07:30

that's humanity. Like the pattern is, oh,

1:07:32

this being and the beings that are

1:07:34

like this being hurt me, buck them

1:07:36

all. Right. So you apply that like

1:07:38

what it turns into like really heavily

1:07:40

resentment to the whole gender and it's...

1:07:42

It's just not fair. That's emotional immaturity.

1:07:45

Yeah. And it sounded like that was

1:07:47

your problem in your previous relationship was

1:07:49

a lot of emotional immaturity. And I

1:07:51

think, you know, it's an age thing

1:07:53

as well. They always say what men

1:07:55

are eight years behind mentally and emotionally

1:07:57

than women are. 7 years my bad

1:07:59

sorry seven and I think that's the

1:08:01

case so I think a lot of

1:08:04

girls in our position are like okay

1:08:06

let's date someone that's 35 to 39

1:08:08

or 40 because they're gonna reach that

1:08:10

emotional maturity and that's not always the

1:08:12

case I think it's it's by subject

1:08:14

and I know living in New York

1:08:16

there's probably eight girls for everyone guy

1:08:18

so he doesn't need to work or

1:08:21

try because say if I'm like well

1:08:23

I want you to pick me up

1:08:25

and pay for my dinner he's gonna

1:08:27

say well I there's that girl who's

1:08:29

just as hot maybe hotter and doesn't

1:08:31

need that's the part of it that

1:08:33

really has best me in both the

1:08:35

lead up and in this breakup stage

1:08:37

like as soon as I started talking

1:08:40

to her I didn't see any other

1:08:42

I didn't See visually any other girls

1:08:44

like I didn't even talk to the

1:08:46

girls of mine that were friends anymore

1:08:48

I love that I didn't because I

1:08:50

well Let's talk about yeah, hold on.

1:08:52

I have a very because it's a

1:08:54

scare because it's a scary place Okay,

1:08:56

yeah, like I always went out of

1:08:59

my way to make sure that there

1:09:01

was no I never wanted her to

1:09:03

feel like there was any reason to

1:09:05

not trust me. Right. I was, I

1:09:07

was a call when I get back

1:09:09

to the hotel kind of guy before

1:09:11

I go to sleep. I was, no,

1:09:13

not a call of face time. Here's

1:09:15

the room, here's the closet's open. Yeah,

1:09:18

you do that? Always. Of course. Like,

1:09:20

of course. That's crazy to me. I've

1:09:22

never been like, show your room. Well,

1:09:24

that's a joke. That part was the

1:09:26

sole joke. No, but my whole thing

1:09:28

is like, if another girl can take

1:09:30

him, she can have him. Like I.

1:09:32

Yeah, but I did so well to

1:09:34

prove that wasn't the case and I

1:09:37

feel like to an extent. And here's

1:09:39

another question. And by the way, like

1:09:41

once again, this isn't to be pended.

1:09:43

gender, if I'll just, those terms, you

1:09:45

create a reputation that drives women to

1:09:47

you, but when they come to, they

1:09:49

also remember who you were prior to

1:09:51

meeting them. Does that make sense? And

1:09:54

so like that reputation, very similar to

1:09:56

what you guys say about how when

1:09:58

men meet you and are intrigued by

1:10:00

your output. I say sometimes a lot

1:10:02

of times girls meet me and they're

1:10:04

and the same things that turn them

1:10:06

on the laughter the conversationalism how how

1:10:08

I can be flirty but reserved but

1:10:10

cool but mysterious but cultured as soon

1:10:13

as we're locked in they want to

1:10:15

turn that shit to fuck off. It's

1:10:17

impressive. It's impressive. It's impressive. It's because

1:10:19

he's got the gift of Gab. Yeah,

1:10:21

he's hilarious. Do you ever feel insecurity

1:10:23

in a relationship or do you find

1:10:25

that it's always the girl? I've never

1:10:27

I've never asked where you were. I've

1:10:29

never asked where you were. I do

1:10:32

not and truthfully every time I've done

1:10:34

something like that. I've. I've looked at

1:10:36

other people and realized that that tight

1:10:38

leash methodology just doesn't work. Here's one

1:10:40

thing I'll bring up as a question.

1:10:42

And it comes back to the question

1:10:44

that you asked about Alpha versus Beta

1:10:46

dating, especially for them as two very

1:10:48

tough girls. I want my thought processes

1:10:51

and my decision making to be trusted

1:10:53

by my counterpart. Okay, when I when

1:10:55

I especially with the shit that I've

1:10:57

been through and the decision making I've

1:10:59

had to make in my life and

1:11:01

all of the camps I've been in

1:11:03

and all the These people that have

1:11:05

looked to me for decisions in times

1:11:07

of strife and grief and and so

1:11:10

when I say This is such a

1:11:12

funny thing, but when I say I

1:11:14

don't deem this to be a situation

1:11:16

we should be having an argument about

1:11:18

Mm-hmm. I don't want that to be

1:11:20

questioned as me saying your feelings don't

1:11:22

matter right right right I just have

1:11:24

deemed this to be, so why are

1:11:27

we talking about this right now? The

1:11:29

thing is, I think, perspective, so my

1:11:31

question to you, so my question to

1:11:33

you is, are you guys willing to

1:11:35

get to trust a man enough to

1:11:37

say, okay, because, because. I don't know

1:11:39

how else you find the guys that

1:11:41

you're looking for which are which are

1:11:43

super out which are super alpha producers

1:11:46

one percenters potentially but also willing to

1:11:48

give the rope the reins to a

1:11:50

female like that's a tough fucking ass

1:11:52

yeah they don't exist um would we

1:11:54

be willing? Yeah, 100%. I think back

1:11:56

to the perspective thing, you know, it

1:11:58

does come with age. I think you

1:12:00

have so much of it. And if

1:12:02

you go out with someone that doesn't,

1:12:05

it also goes back to just saying

1:12:07

please and thank you and being nice

1:12:09

to servers. It's all those things combined.

1:12:11

If you're going out with a young

1:12:13

girl, you're going to get young outbursts,

1:12:15

young lashings. I mean, I also think

1:12:17

and I'm curious about what you guys

1:12:19

feel about this. Do you guys feel

1:12:21

about this? Do you guys feel about

1:12:24

this? Do you. It's like, you have

1:12:26

to text me, you have to do

1:12:28

this, you need to track, I need

1:12:30

to track you, like, you're not allowed

1:12:32

to stay up on this. I feel

1:12:34

like guys hate it when they talk

1:12:36

about it. Using the term, you're not

1:12:38

allowed, first of all, is a, don't.

1:12:41

No, it's crazy. You like crazy girls

1:12:43

because every guy says that, no, we

1:12:45

fucking hate crazy, she thought, but y'all

1:12:47

love it. Yeah, it's like a pheromone.

1:12:49

But then men release something when they're

1:12:51

super-spressin. And so when that's why women

1:12:53

and men, like especially men when they're

1:12:55

in these relationships of toxic women, they

1:12:57

kind of stain it because it releases

1:13:00

that form like that's a presser. So

1:13:02

when women are, women release our oxytocin

1:13:04

when apparently you're physical, you're hugging, you're

1:13:06

touching. That's what we feel that love

1:13:08

endorphine toward you. Men is released when

1:13:10

they are stressed. So that's called vasopress.

1:13:12

Loki like to rile their girlfriend out

1:13:14

because she gets like, oh, why would

1:13:16

you do that? And then you love

1:13:19

her for that. I'm not sure. That

1:13:21

sounds like a myth. Like, it's science.

1:13:23

It could be science, but it could

1:13:25

be science, but it could on the

1:13:27

unwax podcast. But let's not group everybody

1:13:29

together. I agree. Because I will say

1:13:31

this, when you say guys like crazy

1:13:33

girls, once again, I think it does

1:13:35

come down to age and life stage.

1:13:38

Logan was very intentional. partner and so

1:13:40

and so for me I I have

1:13:42

always hoped that I could grow into

1:13:44

that with someone like I like I

1:13:46

like I said I would so enamored

1:13:48

by a lot of this last relationship's

1:13:50

purity and direction in life and master's

1:13:52

going for a master's degree and no

1:13:54

one knew who she was and a

1:13:57

lot of that stuff like rang a

1:13:59

lot of bells and so when you

1:14:01

say this stuff about like how do

1:14:03

you like being told what to do

1:14:05

in a relationship as a even just

1:14:07

slightly down spectrum avoidant it's not really

1:14:09

good for me okay and by the

1:14:11

way I don't believe that it's good

1:14:14

for the majority of high-producing men. I

1:14:16

agree. I really don't. I think I

1:14:18

think you should set boundaries. Yo, if

1:14:20

you cheat... We are done. There's no

1:14:22

coming back from that. There's no excuses.

1:14:24

The relationship is over because as you

1:14:26

see in this new toxic, this return

1:14:28

of some small semblance of pocket of

1:14:30

toxic masculinity on the internet, there's this

1:14:33

like, this is why cheating should be

1:14:35

okay, not okay. As soon as the

1:14:37

trust is gone from this relationship, we

1:14:39

are fucking done. That's a boundary that

1:14:41

I understand and do not see as

1:14:43

a disrespect. But if you tell me,

1:14:45

you just went on a 22 minute

1:14:47

bike ride in the Hamptons, why the

1:14:49

fuck didn't you text me while you

1:14:52

text me while you're. Not saying that

1:14:54

that's ever happened. It sounds personal. It

1:14:56

sounds very personal. It's a made up

1:14:58

story. But if you do that. As

1:15:00

a, not even as an avoidant, but

1:15:02

as a fucking human, I'm going to

1:15:04

have a major problem. You know what

1:15:06

I believe, and have you heard of

1:15:08

the toxic light theory? Yeah, the cat

1:15:11

has made in sex in the city.

1:15:13

Basically they say that men are like

1:15:15

toxic cabs, that when their light is

1:15:17

on and they're ready for relationship, and

1:15:19

like a serious one for a wife,

1:15:21

that's when you actually find her because

1:15:23

you're attracting that type of energy. had

1:15:25

your light on and you were like

1:15:28

I'm gonna be very intentional and it

1:15:30

was right and I do want a

1:15:32

serious relationship something that's a little bit

1:15:34

more meaningful than something that might last

1:15:36

a year or two right and that's

1:15:38

when you met needed and ended working

1:15:40

out even if it like started out

1:15:42

in a very interesting way it still

1:15:44

was attracted to you yeah you are

1:15:47

not probably fully ready for that type

1:15:49

of like there's this little marital commitment

1:15:51

yeah and so you Yeah, mine's one

1:15:53

that's kind of broken and like you

1:15:55

know, your light, your light's like half

1:15:57

on half off, like you do one,

1:15:59

I know you crave it because I

1:16:01

can hear it in your voice in

1:16:03

the way that you speak about, you're

1:16:06

very intellectual when it comes to emotions

1:16:08

and boundaries and whatever it is, but

1:16:10

it seems like your light's not on

1:16:12

yet. So you're not really looking for

1:16:14

someone to give you that quality, mature,

1:16:16

long lasting relationship. I'm in purgatory right

1:16:18

now, and I feel that too, because

1:16:20

I feel that too, too, because this

1:16:22

return, because this return, See a girl

1:16:25

we've been you know broken up for

1:16:27

40 days. I'm healing I am well

1:16:29

you know I hope you're not seeing

1:16:31

another girl I don't mean seeing that's

1:16:33

not the type of seeing I usually

1:16:35

do okay I'm not going on a

1:16:37

date okay what I'm saying you is

1:16:39

this that return to the dark side

1:16:41

now disgust I don't want to be

1:16:44

there I don't want to be at

1:16:46

a meeting girls in weird places and

1:16:48

like all this stuff. Honestly, it's overrated.

1:16:50

No, no, no, no, it's fine. It's

1:16:52

a state, life stage thing. Yeah, but

1:16:54

it's not fun. You can't tell me

1:16:56

that's fun. You think getting fucked up

1:16:58

at a club, meeting a girl at

1:17:01

a night, like, that's fun right now.

1:17:03

It's not for me. at all, but

1:17:05

for someone out there, it's a blast.

1:17:07

Okay, that's what I'm trying to say,

1:17:09

right? Whereas you guys like reading books

1:17:11

or acting or doing somebody else likes

1:17:13

turning up with their boys, you know,

1:17:15

like mobile phones on, they're standing on

1:17:17

the shit going like this, popping bottles,

1:17:20

whatever, right? So you, but to your

1:17:22

point, yes, and and and by the

1:17:24

way, if a girl is acting up,

1:17:26

a lot of times, it's because of

1:17:28

something you're doing wrong. Okay, and I'm

1:17:30

not saying that this is necessarily the

1:17:32

blame or whatever. But if you're not

1:17:34

working towards the same goal she is,

1:17:36

if you're not giving her the right

1:17:39

level of reassurance that you're there and

1:17:41

blah blah blah whatever, that can cause

1:17:43

a girl to act a certain way.

1:17:45

Well I also do believe when you

1:17:47

get into a relationship, you're not just

1:17:49

dating the girl, you're dating all her

1:17:51

boyfriends prior to that. All of the

1:17:53

relationship. So you're not only talking to

1:17:55

her, you're talking to every single person

1:17:58

she was into. And that's where trust

1:18:00

issues issues. Yes. Did it stop there

1:18:02

though with you? Did you see it

1:18:04

in the beginning? Issues of the

1:18:06

past playing a role in your

1:18:08

current relationship? We felt

1:18:11

a lot of that. I feel so

1:18:13

bad for Mike. We're like, the repizing

1:18:15

him. Well, I feel worse. I feel

1:18:17

worse. I feel worse. I feel worse.

1:18:19

I feel worse. I feel worse. I

1:18:22

feel worse. We do. I put it

1:18:24

out there just as much. This is

1:18:26

how bad it is to see her

1:18:28

on a date recently. He called her

1:18:30

Sophia. He called me Sophia. Never met

1:18:32

him. What are you calling it? A

1:18:35

Freudian slip or what? Oh, no. She,

1:18:37

yeah, you just call me Sophia. I

1:18:39

was like, well, um, wrong one.

1:18:41

Happens a lot, actually. I have the

1:18:43

best dates. Well, you got, your

1:18:45

dad named you guys, Sophia, Scarlett,

1:18:47

Sistine. Like, it's not. Yes, but

1:18:50

you shouldn't. I mean, you're going

1:18:52

off. You're going off. You're going

1:18:54

off. It's up pretty serious. What?

1:18:56

Yeah, yeah, true, true, true, true. No, but

1:18:59

that's why our singleness is awful for me,

1:19:01

but it's great for our podcast because

1:19:03

the content is phenomenal. For sure. And by

1:19:05

the way, when you get in a relationship, it's

1:19:07

going to be boring. Yeah. No, I know. You

1:19:09

will have to dilute. Oh, we did. But when

1:19:12

we did have a relationship, they didn't want us

1:19:14

to talk about on the podcast. Our content was.

1:19:16

Awful for you that time. Yeah, no,

1:19:18

I know. It was awful. Yeah. But

1:19:20

we want it. We just want a

1:19:22

relationship where they would allow us to

1:19:24

be ourselves. Yeah, can you guys therapist?

1:19:26

What are we doing wrong? Yeah, really.

1:19:28

Be honest. Be honest. You guys too, if

1:19:30

you can, do we have any like, really

1:19:33

cool friends? But grounded. My only

1:19:35

single cool ass friend really is Mike.

1:19:37

I'm just, I'll be honest. You guys

1:19:39

are probably, you guys are probably too

1:19:42

old for him. I probably don't know. I

1:19:44

know. I think only six is a little

1:19:46

too old. That's not true. That's not

1:19:48

true. It's like 24. I don't know. No, no,

1:19:50

no. That's my biggest, my biggest thing with

1:19:53

him. You said it. It's age. It's

1:19:55

age. Yeah. You're taxi-like guy beyond. Go

1:19:57

for the 30-year-old. No, but it is age.

1:19:59

It is. Hey, that's something I was

1:20:01

talking to somebody about the other day.

1:20:03

And they're good, by the way, they're

1:20:05

so hot by the way, women peek

1:20:08

at 32. That's something I'm talking about

1:20:10

the other day. The age thing is,

1:20:12

I believe has a, and maybe this

1:20:14

is already like a known thing, has

1:20:17

such a tie to biological clock. Oh

1:20:19

yeah. Like a genetic or like a

1:20:21

DNA driven tie, because ready for this?

1:20:23

At 25, if you. Go

1:20:26

for your boyfriend goes for 22-minute. Yeah,

1:20:28

ride on bike in the Hamptons in

1:20:30

this made-up story, right? Yeah, made up,

1:20:32

right? It was actually New York. Yo,

1:20:34

you're pissed. But at 31, you're like,

1:20:36

okay, maybe I'm pissed, maybe I'm not.

1:20:38

But damn, do I want to start

1:20:40

this shit over again? I'm trying to

1:20:42

have a fucking kid. Oh, I feel

1:20:44

like at 31 it's like, I got

1:20:46

22 minutes of myself. Yes, or that.

1:20:48

Yes, my sisters all the time, it's

1:20:50

so funny because we used to talk

1:20:52

to my sisters about it and people

1:20:54

would bring up like, both of my

1:20:56

exes would bring up like cheating to

1:20:58

my... Dabby? They'd be like, well, what

1:21:00

would you do? Like if he was

1:21:03

hanging out, you know, went to the

1:21:05

strip club. She goes, did he get

1:21:07

a blow job? Great, less work for

1:21:09

me. Bro, she's, it was hilarious. She's

1:21:11

in her late 30s. She's like, great.

1:21:13

Now I got less work to do.

1:21:15

Like, she's joking, but at the same

1:21:17

time when she's bringing forward is like,

1:21:19

dude, I want to fucking. There's not

1:21:21

this clinginess that you get with a

1:21:23

you get with a younger girl. This

1:21:25

attachment kind of I will I will

1:21:27

keep an eye out 25. Thank you.

1:21:29

I will keep an eye out I

1:21:31

put it out I put it on

1:21:33

a blimp. We're actually very like we're

1:21:35

actually very feminine and sweet when you

1:21:37

go take us yeah we're not so

1:21:39

much guys we're really nice. In a

1:21:41

business meeting we'll dominate and we'll honestly

1:21:43

talk over you but in a date

1:21:45

we're like I mean, call me Sophia.

1:21:47

That's another story. You will get you

1:21:50

out. Sistine Chapel. Sistine Chapel. Sistine Chapel.

1:21:52

All right, guys, that was great. That

1:21:54

was amazing. They still never figured out

1:21:56

what was wrong with them. Oh, yeah.

1:21:58

That's like I've heard about it. We

1:22:00

already know. On part two, we'll dissect.

1:22:02

On your show. Maybe. Maybe. Thank you

1:22:04

guys so much for coming on. Thank

1:22:06

you guys. Yeah, this was great guys.

1:22:08

This is great. Thank you guys. Hey

1:22:10

wait, if you're going to break up,

1:22:12

you're gonna be okay. By the way,

1:22:14

because I know some of you guys

1:22:16

out there right now are watching this

1:22:18

and you're so stuck in your head

1:22:20

and men, women, and you think the

1:22:22

world's tumbling down around you, just give

1:22:24

it time, you're gonna come out on

1:22:26

the other side and you're gonna be

1:22:28

great. Also, I want to say something

1:22:30

to my girlfriend to my girlfriend, to

1:22:32

my girlfriend. Ex-girlfriend I mean, I'm so

1:22:34

sorry that we've talked about this. So

1:22:36

great. I hope we're good. I hope

1:22:39

we're good. I hope we're working with

1:22:41

us talking about it. We're team both

1:22:43

of you. We'll review it. We've got

1:22:45

to go. This is the off. This

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