Andy talks about what should be happening with the presidential transition right now in terms of managing the pandemic. Former Trump VA Secretary David Shulkin provides expertise on how a typical transition goes — and the cost of President Trump’s refusal to concede. David was there for the Obama-Trump transition and details how he sees today's norm-shattering process playing out. The saving grace, as Andy points out, is that President-Elect Biden knows his way around the White House blindfolded. 

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

• Watch President George H. W. Bush’s full concession speech: https://www.c-span.org/video/?34051-1/george-h-w-bush-concession-speech
• Order David’s book, It Shouldn't Be This Hard to Serve Your Country: Our Broken Government and the Plight of Veterans: https://www.publicaffairsbooks.com/titles/david-shulkin/it-shouldnt-be-this-hard-to-serve-your-country/9781541762657/ 
• Read an excerpt from David’s book about that unorthodox job interview he had in Trump Tower: https://time.com/5701364/david-shulkin-donald-trump/
• Check out The Shulkin Blog, where David shares news insights about COVID-19: https://shulkinblog.com/ 
• Pre-order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response, here: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

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