Episode #26 - The Great Divide: Knowing vs. Doing in Information Security

Episode #26 - The Great Divide: Knowing vs. Doing in Information Security

Released Monday, 24th March 2025
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Episode #26 - The Great Divide: Knowing vs. Doing in Information Security

Episode #26 - The Great Divide: Knowing vs. Doing in Information Security

Episode #26 - The Great Divide: Knowing vs. Doing in Information Security

Episode #26 - The Great Divide: Knowing vs. Doing in Information Security

Monday, 24th March 2025
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The security industry is flooded with paper tigers—people who look the part, talk the talk, but can’t actually do the damn job.

We’ve all seen them. The security “leaders” who push policies they don’t understand. The certification collectors who crumble when real shit hits the fan. The compliance jockeys who think checking a box is the same as being secure.

In this episode, we’re diving deep into my latest blog post, “Paper Tigers” (https://evanfrancen.com/2025/03/14/pa..., and tackling the uncomfortable truths about why security is broken, why incompetent people keep failing upward, and what we need to do to fix it.

💥 What We’ll Cover:
✅ What a paper tiger is and why they’re so dangerous in security
✅ How bad hiring, useless certs, and corporate politics reward incompetence
✅ Why real security pros are getting drowned out by career climbers
✅ How we can stop the cycle and demand real security leadership

If you’re tired of the same security bullshit and want to hear real talk about what’s wrong with this industry (and how we fix it), grab a drink, tune in, and join the conversation.

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InfoSec to Insanity

Welcome to the InfoSec to Insanity Podcast, a wild, unfiltered ride through the crazy world of information security. Hosted by the legendary Evan Francen—the man on a mission to fix the broken InfoSec industry—you’ll get straight talk, insane stories, and no-nonsense advice on how we can make real change in cybersecurity.Evan is no stranger to breaking down tough topics, with over 30 years of practical InfoSec experience, founding FRSecure and SecurityStudio, and helping the world make sense of security risks. He’s also written UNSECURITY, where he tells it like it is—our industry is failing, but it’s fixable. If you’ve ever felt like InfoSec was more chaos than clarity, then this podcast is exactly what you need.Why Tune In?Candid Conversations: No fluff, no corporate BS. Just real talk about the state of security.Battle Stories: Evan’s got tales—from advising on the infamous Target breach to helping protect companies like Wells Fargo and Blue Cross/Blue Shield.Fixing the Industry: Join us as we tackle the tough questions: Why do breaches keep happening? What’s wrong with InfoSec? And how can we fix it?Fun and Relatable: Evan brings his humor, hacker mindset, and love for diving into problems head-on—sometimes literally when he’s out scuba diving or tearing down a motorcycle!This podcast isn’t your standard cybersecurity chat. It’s a mix of tech talk, leadership insight, and just the right amount of insanity. Whether you’re a seasoned InfoSec pro or just trying to keep your company safe, there’s something for everyone here.

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