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Why do we love to
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watch slow motion in the
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movies? What do Bonnie and
2:48
Clyde or Inception or The
2:50
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2:53
and time perception? And what
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to do with unmasking hidden
3:00
data or champion bicyclists or
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elementary particles or murderers or
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HGwell's time machine? I'm a
3:07
neuroscientist and an author at
3:10
Stanford, and in these episodes
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we dive deeply into our
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three pound universe to understand
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some of the most surprising
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aspects of our lives. Today's
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episode is about slow motion
3:24
and what's going on in
3:27
the brain and why we
3:29
are attracted to it. So
3:32
we all know that if
3:34
you go to any random
3:37
blockbuster, you're really likely to
3:39
see some of the sequences
3:41
in slow motion. This gets
3:44
employed to accentuate the choreography
3:46
of gun battles or sword
3:49
fights. And of course, it
3:51
doesn't even have to be
3:53
fighting. You might see it
3:56
in a shot of a
3:58
basketball dunk or a flip.
4:01
car or sprinters crossing the
4:03
finish line. Whatever the shot,
4:06
what we get to witness
4:08
is fluidity and elegance in
4:10
a visually captivating spectacle that
4:13
has become a hallmark of
4:15
Hollywood. And it goes even
4:18
beyond action movies, even in
4:20
dramas and romances, we see
4:23
slow motion get leveraged to
4:25
capture intimate emotional moments. We
4:27
savor the subtleties of someone's
4:30
eye movements or facial expressions
4:32
or body movements. We understand
4:35
something about the unspoken longing
4:37
and restrained passion between two
4:39
protagonists or... We watch a
4:42
tear fall or we see
4:44
the moment that someone has
4:46
an unexpected revelation. So we
4:49
see slow motion all the
4:51
time, but have you ever
4:54
wondered from a neuroscience perspective
4:56
what that's all about and
4:58
why brains love it so
5:01
much? Yeah, me too, and hence
5:03
today's podcast. So let's start by
5:05
zooming way out. When did slow
5:08
motion really start in movies?
5:10
You may be surprised to
5:12
know that the era of
5:14
slowmo didn't really begin until
5:17
1967. And what stuns me
5:19
about this is that by
5:21
1967, we already had supersonic
5:24
flight and bionic limbs and
5:26
credit cards and digital music
5:28
and the space race was
5:30
in full swing. But nobody
5:33
was using slow motion. Until...
5:35
I thought, listen, I have an
5:37
idea about the end that
5:39
should be like a spastic
5:41
ballet. And that was the
5:43
image. That's Arthur Penn, the
5:45
director of the 1967 film,
5:48
Bonnie and Clyde. This was
5:50
a big Hollywood blockbuster that
5:52
dramatized the real-life crime spree
5:55
of Bonnie Parker and Clyde
5:57
Beryl. And the star... were
6:00
Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty.
6:02
So Bonnie and Clyde were
6:04
a young couple who became
6:06
bank robbers during the Great
6:09
Depression. And in the movie,
6:11
they travel across the country
6:13
with their growing gang and
6:15
their crimes escalate. And this
6:18
attracts the relentless pursuit by
6:20
law enforcement, which culminates in
6:22
a violent ambush. And then so
6:24
I came to the technicians and
6:26
I said, Look, this is what I
6:29
want to get. They said you
6:31
can't do that. I said,
6:33
I want four cameras. I
6:35
want them running at different
6:37
speeds. I want them gang
6:39
together. And I want to roll
6:42
them all at the same time. And
6:44
so that's what happened
6:46
in the final scene.
6:48
The cinematography decelerates into
6:50
a balladic slow motion
6:52
as Bonnie and Clyde
6:54
meet their bloody end
6:56
under a hailstorm of
6:58
police bullets. So as
7:00
they experience their final
7:02
moment, the audience is
7:04
given some extra seconds
7:06
to be witnessed to
7:09
it. Now
7:11
this really shocked a lot
7:13
of people. Critics called Arthur
7:15
Penn's slowed-down death scene gratuitous
7:17
and callous, but the idea
7:20
caught on. Bonnie and Clyde
7:22
had opened the door to
7:24
slow motion and it's never
7:26
been shut since. Now, by
7:29
the way, it's not that
7:31
the technology was new. The
7:33
method for slow motion movies
7:35
came into being in 1904.
7:38
when the Austrian physicist August
7:40
Musker invented the technique. So
7:42
what's the technique? You just speed
7:44
up the recording camera. So you're
7:47
capturing more frames per second. In
7:49
this way, what you're doing is
7:51
capturing faster changes. The time in
7:54
between each picture is shorter than
7:56
normal. So then when you play
7:58
the film strip... back at regular
8:00
speed, like 24 frames per
8:03
second, then the scene appears to
8:05
be in slow motion because
8:07
the change from one frame to
8:09
the next is very small. This
8:12
was initially just getting used for
8:14
scientific purposes to slow down
8:16
processes that you can't see well
8:18
with the naked eye. But
8:21
eventually slow motion was adopted by
8:23
filmmakers to enhance visual storytelling.
8:25
Now, before we go on, I
8:27
wanna make sure we have
8:29
a clear distinction between slow motion
8:31
in movies and the impression
8:33
that you might have if you
8:36
have experienced a life -threatening situation
8:38
and it feels like the
8:40
event took a long time. Is
8:42
this because the frame
8:44
rate of your brain changes?
8:47
No. 99 episodes ago,
8:49
I talked about the impression we
8:51
have of very frightening events having taken
8:54
a long time. This is something
8:56
I first experienced as a child
8:58
when I fell off of a
9:00
roof. I have very clear memories
9:02
and it feels like the whole
9:04
thing took a few seconds, even though
9:06
I can calculate that it only
9:08
took 0 .6 seconds to get
9:10
from the top to the bottom.
9:12
Now, it turns out that this observation
9:14
about scary events seeming to last
9:16
longer, this is at least 100
9:18
years old in the scientific literature,
9:20
although I imagine that people
9:22
have noticed this from time
9:24
immemorial. But my laboratory was
9:27
the first to run experiments
9:29
on it to see if
9:31
it was an issue of
9:33
a faster perceptual frame rate,
9:35
which again is how a
9:37
movie camera captures slow motion,
9:39
or instead, does it happen
9:41
to us because of the
9:43
laying down of denser memories
9:45
and the retrospective estimate of
9:47
how much time had passed?
9:50
We ran experiments by presenting information at
9:52
a faster rate than a person
9:54
could normally see, and then we
9:56
put them in a very scary
9:58
situation where we draw... them from
10:00
a 150 foot tall tower and
10:03
they were caught in a net
10:05
below. If a person is like
10:07
a camera speeding up its frame
10:09
rate, then they would be able
10:12
to easily see the information we
10:14
were flashing at them. But our
10:16
results indicated that the slow motion
10:18
effect was a trick of memory.
10:21
In other words, when you're in
10:23
fear for your life, your brain
10:25
writes down dense memory. It's capturing
10:27
everything it can, whereas normally your
10:30
memory is very leaky. So when
10:32
your brain then asks, what
10:34
just happened, what just happened,
10:36
and reads out all those
10:38
dense memories, it estimates that
10:40
the event must have taken
10:42
longer. Your brain has all
10:44
these rich memories, let's say
10:46
the hood crumpling and the
10:48
rear view mirror falling off
10:50
and the expression on the
10:52
other driver's face and so
10:54
on, and given that... Opulence
10:56
of memory, your brain calculates
10:58
that the whole event must
11:00
have represented a slightly longer
11:02
duration. In other words, what happens
11:05
during a scary event is
11:07
a totally different mechanism than
11:09
slow motion video. Now, when
11:11
I published our findings, some
11:13
people said to me, hey,
11:15
I don't think your conclusion
11:17
is correct because I had
11:19
a life-threatening car accident and
11:21
I know what I experienced.
11:23
So I said to them,
11:25
okay, but the guy in
11:27
your passenger seat who was
11:29
yelling, watch out, did it
11:31
actually sound like he was saying,
11:34
because if not, that means
11:36
that time was not... actually
11:38
dilated because if you are
11:40
recording something with a faster
11:42
frame rate, then when you
11:44
play it back out, everything
11:46
is stretched. So with your
11:48
experience of time dilation, it's
11:50
not an issue of faster
11:52
frame rate like a movie
11:54
camera, but instead of denser
11:56
memory. Please listen to episode
11:58
one of this podcast. for much
12:00
more about that. And the reason
12:02
I'm telling you about this now
12:05
is because we're going to return
12:07
to this in a few minutes.
12:09
For now, let's get back to
12:12
filmmaking, where the mechanism is very
12:14
straightforward. You just take more frames
12:16
per second. Now, I said that
12:19
Bonnie and Clyde was the first
12:21
major movie to use slow motion,
12:23
but there were actually experiments with
12:26
it before that. One of the
12:28
earliest uses in cinema was in
12:30
an epic silent film called Intolerance
12:33
in 1916. This was made by
12:35
a director named D.W. Griffith, who
12:37
was experimenting with all kinds of
12:40
techniques of filmmaking, and he used
12:42
slow motion just a little bit
12:44
to accentuate dramatic moments and heightened
12:46
emotional tension. But two world wars
12:49
at over half a century passed
12:51
before it was used in Bonnie
12:53
and Clyde, in part because the
12:56
technology had to advance to make
12:58
slow motion more accessible and versatile.
13:00
By the 1960s people were building
13:03
high-speed cameras which were capable of
13:05
capturing hundreds of frames per second
13:07
and eventually thousands. And this is
13:10
what allowed filmmakers to push new
13:12
boundaries of representing time. and creating
13:14
effects that audiences were captivated by.
13:17
And the 1969 film The Wild
13:19
Bunch, two years after Bonnie and
13:21
Clyde, really helped popularize the technique.
13:24
And now, of course, we don't
13:26
even think about it much because
13:28
it's a staple of modern filmmaking.
13:31
For example, I recently watched a
13:33
movie called Wanted, which uses super
13:35
slow motion every time there's a
13:37
gun battle, or you may remember
13:40
Christopher Nolan's movie Inception. which has
13:42
these beautiful slow motion dream sequences,
13:44
especially in the kick moments where
13:47
they're transitioning from one reality to
13:49
another. So increasingly since 1967, movies
13:51
use time warping all the time
13:54
and the success of this approach
13:56
has overtaken. in commercials and music
13:58
videos, and it's a standard tool
14:01
on our cell phones. And in
14:03
fact, you can tell when something
14:05
has become a staple because then
14:08
it shifts into the focus of
14:10
the comedians. Some years ago, the
14:12
comedian Dave Chappelle did a skit
14:15
in which he was proving that
14:17
everything, quote, looks cooler in slow
14:19
motion. So in the skit he
14:21
walks into the laundromat and says
14:24
hello to a kindly middle-aged woman
14:26
who is preparing her laundry and
14:28
she takes off her sweatshirt so
14:30
she can add it to her hamper.
14:33
And it's all very innocent and
14:35
laundromatty. And then he says,
14:37
let's replay this video in slow
14:39
motion. And now everything changes from
14:42
mundane to sexy. In the slow
14:44
motion replay, the woman lifts the
14:46
sweatshirt over her head and is
14:49
suddenly replaced by a beautiful young
14:51
model who tosses her hair in
14:53
a vigorous breeze. And she and
14:56
Dave Chappelle start dancing around each
14:58
other as the wind blows. So
15:00
this skit cracked up the audience,
15:03
but this just underscores our question.
15:05
What is the appeal of
15:07
slow motion? Why do we
15:09
find it so? attractive. I
15:12
propose four reasons. The first
15:14
is the increased aesthetic appeal.
15:16
When you decelerate time, you
15:18
can experience so many more
15:20
details of the scene. And
15:23
just like Dave Chappelle noticed,
15:25
even ordinary moments get turned
15:27
into extraordinary visual spectacles. And
15:29
this is because by slowing
15:31
down time, you highlight the
15:33
intricate features of a scene.
15:36
The human eye is naturally
15:38
attracted to detail and slow
15:40
motion allows us to appreciate
15:42
the subtle. nuances of a
15:44
character's movement or the play of
15:46
light and shadow or birds exploding
15:49
out of a tree or the
15:51
look on someone's face as they
15:53
turn to see that their lover
15:55
has left. So you remember the
15:58
Matrix which came out in And
16:00
you certainly remember this bullet
16:02
-dodging scene where Neo bends
16:04
backward to avoid a series
16:06
of bullets fired at him.
16:08
And this beautiful, slow, sweeping
16:11
shot captures the fluidity and
16:13
the wondrous precision of his
16:15
movements. The scene could never
16:17
have worked at normal speed
16:19
because the key was how
16:22
he was making a move
16:24
that was not normally physically
16:26
possible. And the otherworldly nature
16:28
of this required immersing us
16:30
to have time to really
16:33
take it in. Just like
16:35
with Bonnie and Clyde, the
16:37
slowness heightens the tension and
16:39
the drama. We the audience
16:41
get to squeeze every moment
16:44
out of the scene rather
16:46
than have it zip by
16:48
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16:50
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16:52
have to be action scenes.
16:54
Look at Terrence Malick's film
16:57
The Tree of Life, or
16:59
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17:01
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so increasing the aesthetic
21:01
appeal, that's the obvious reason. But
21:04
from a neuroscience point of
21:06
view, I'm going to suggest there
21:08
are deeper reasons why slow motion
21:11
works. And this leads to
21:13
my suggestion number two, which is
21:15
that slow motion film serves as
21:17
a proxy for denser memories.
21:19
So a few moments ago, I
21:22
told you what happens during a
21:24
life-threatening situation. Although you don't actually
21:27
see the event unfold in slow
21:29
motion, The denser memories that
21:31
you have make it seem
21:33
like it must have been
21:35
that way in retrospect, because
21:37
there's a greater than normal
21:39
amount of detail when the
21:41
memory is read back out.
21:44
And I suggest that slow
21:46
motion film is a stand-in,
21:48
a substitute for this extra
21:50
dense memory. By watching a movie
21:52
scene slowly, we get to
21:54
enjoy a rich experience with
21:56
plenty of time to dwell
21:59
on all the details that
22:01
would normally streak right past us.
22:03
We have the opportunity to attend
22:05
to the details and commit them
22:07
to memory, just like we have
22:09
after a real life high adrenaline
22:11
moment. In other words, slow motion
22:13
film recreates the sensation of grasping
22:16
all the details. And this explains
22:18
the natural partnership of slow motion
22:20
videography with high adrenaline moments. It's
22:22
no accident that the first time
22:24
it really got used was the
22:26
ambush death scene of Bonnie and
22:29
Clyde. The director Arthur Penn said
22:31
in an interview, quote, the intention
22:33
there was to get this attenuation
22:35
of time that one experience is
22:37
when you see something like a
22:39
terrible automobile accident, end quote. and
22:41
giving the audience a heightened ability
22:44
to catch and remember details worked
22:46
well and it's become a standard
22:48
signature of high-stakes moments. Arthur Penn
22:50
went on to say in 1989,
22:52
quote, God knows we've been imitated
22:54
thousands and thousands of times now.
22:56
Every time you see someone attempting
22:59
violence, they go into that basic
23:01
slow motion, end quote. So my
23:03
assertion is that when we witness
23:05
a moment unfold bit by bit
23:07
in the movies, we get to
23:09
appreciate its import as though we
23:12
were experiencing the high adrenaline moment
23:14
ourselves. But not all interesting slow
23:16
motion video involves high adrenaline situations,
23:18
so there is more to our
23:20
love of it. And this leads
23:22
us to my third suggestion for
23:24
the success of slow motion, which
23:27
is that it extends human perception
23:29
by unmasking hidden data. It allows
23:31
the revelation of data that's hidden
23:33
in the folds of time, just
23:35
like a microscope allows us to
23:37
appreciate the details of a fly's
23:39
wing. And I'm not just talking
23:42
about action sequences
23:44
here, or NEO's
23:46
unusual movements in
23:48
the matrix, there's
23:50
much more that
23:52
can be unmasked.
23:55
Consider something like
23:57
micro expressions. These
23:59
are fast movements
24:01
of facial muscles
24:03
that pass rapidly
24:05
and unconsciously over
24:07
people's faces. Now
24:10
everyone's face does
24:12
this naturally all
24:14
the time, but
24:16
you can't really
24:18
see someone else's
24:20
micro expressions because
24:22
they're too brief.
24:25
You're not aware
24:27
that you're making
24:29
micro expressions and someone watching
24:31
you isn't consciously aware that
24:33
you did it, but it
24:35
turns out that micro expressions
24:37
can carry information and can
24:39
reveal secrets, including things like
24:42
deception. For example,
24:44
you may remember the story of
24:46
Susan Smith who claimed that
24:48
her children had been kidnapped in
24:50
a car jacking when in
24:52
fact she had drowned them. For
24:54
several days she was on
24:57
the TV news pleading for help
24:59
in finding her children, but
25:01
some colleagues of mine claimed that
25:03
a slowed down version of
25:05
the video revealed micro expressions that
25:07
suggested she was lying about
25:09
the whole event. The idea is
25:12
that slow motion video unmasks the
25:14
world of these temporally
25:16
hidden facial clues. And
25:18
by unveiling things that are
25:20
undetectable by consciousness, slow motion
25:22
can allow not just temporal
25:24
sleuthing but temporal intimacy. Consider
25:26
this passage by the British
25:28
sports writer Matt Rendell about
25:30
the Tour de France winner
25:33
Marco Pantani. Writing about the
25:35
use of super slow motion
25:37
cameras in sport, Rendell wrote
25:39
what I think is one
25:41
of the most beautiful passages
25:43
in sports writing. Here it
25:45
is read by the actor
25:47
Sean Judge. Now,
25:49
as he rives towards victory
25:51
in the Giro d 'Italia,
25:53
the camera almost caresses him.
25:56
The five seconds between the
25:58
moment Marco appeared in the... closing
26:00
straight, and the moment he
26:02
crossed the finish line are
26:04
extruded to fifteen and during
26:06
seconds. The
26:08
image frames his head and
26:11
little else, revealing details invisible
26:13
in real time and at
26:15
standard resolution. A drop of
26:17
sweat that falls from his
26:19
chin as he makes the
26:22
bend, the gaping jaw and
26:24
crumpled forehead and lines beneath
26:26
the eyes that deepen as
26:28
Marco rings still more speed
26:31
from the mountain. Then,
26:33
and it must be the
26:35
moment he crosses the line,
26:37
he begins to rise out
26:40
of his agony. The torso
26:42
rises to vertical, the arms
26:44
spread out into a crucifix
26:46
position, the eyelids descend and
26:48
Marco's face lifts towards the
26:51
sky. It
26:53
is a moment of
26:55
transfiguration, visible only in
26:57
super slow -mo or instill
26:59
and only the best
27:01
of the finish line
27:03
photographers catch it. Super
27:05
slow -mo shows us
27:07
something we could never
27:09
otherwise see. In voluntary
27:11
gestures Marco never chose
27:14
to reveal, perhaps because
27:16
without super slow -mo technology
27:18
he cannot know he
27:20
makes them. The
27:22
public knows more about Marco
27:24
than Marco himself. A
27:27
truth we are tempted to
27:29
imagine and one that has nothing
27:31
to do with the race
27:33
outcome as such for the pictures
27:36
frame out the finish line
27:38
in the clock and show nothing
27:40
of his work rate, muscular
27:42
toil or the relative positions of
27:44
the riders that yield the
27:46
race result. Instead, we find ourselves
27:49
looking into Marco's face the
27:51
way a mother and her baby
27:53
might or lovers at the
27:55
moment their affection is first reciprocated.
28:00
Slow motion allows us to
28:02
pick up on the world
28:04
that would otherwise rush past
28:06
us. And in this slowed
28:08
world, we get to luxuriate
28:11
in the otherwise invisible details
28:13
with which we're always surrounded,
28:15
but we never see. And
28:17
now we're ready for my fourth
28:20
point. Slow motion video holds
28:22
our attention by violating expectations.
28:24
So, during a lifetime of
28:26
experience, your brain develops deeply
28:28
wired expectations about Newtonian physics.
28:31
So when a ball gets
28:33
thrown to you, your brain
28:35
unconsciously uses these internal models
28:37
to predict where and when
28:39
it's going to go, and
28:42
you move your body in
28:44
your hand to the right
28:46
spot. These models are so
28:48
ingrained into our nervous systems that
28:50
if you lob a ball to
28:53
an astronaut floating in zero G,
28:55
she will move her hand to
28:57
the wrong spot. She'll move to
28:59
catch it as though she's in
29:02
a normal one-g environment.
29:04
So, part of the high
29:06
level of engagement during slow
29:08
motion comes from a violation
29:11
of these expectations about physics.
29:13
Imagine you're watching The Matrix
29:15
and you observe Trinity leap
29:17
into the air to kick
29:19
an agent. Your brain makes
29:22
unconscious predictions about exactly when
29:24
she's going to come back
29:26
down. But to your brain's
29:28
surprise... Time slows down and
29:30
Trinity hangs in the air
29:33
longer than expected. Your expectations
29:35
about when she's gonna hit
29:37
the ground have been violated
29:39
and this draws us in.
29:42
Our brains zoom in on
29:44
this because attention is maximally
29:46
attracted to whatever we predict
29:49
incorrectly. Conversely, when everything
29:51
goes according to plan, we don't
29:53
pay any attention at all. We are
29:55
fond of slow motion
29:57
video because it engages our
30:00
attention. constantly get the temporal
30:02
predictions wrong. And so we are
30:04
perpetually on alert. In fact, I
30:06
did a very surprising experiment on
30:08
this some years ago. I started
30:11
with this hypothesis that your internal
30:13
model is always calibrating itself, keeping
30:15
itself tuned up by comparing against
30:17
the physics of the real world.
30:20
So if it's running too slowly,
30:22
it watches a ball hit the
30:24
ground and realizes that its prediction
30:26
was just slightly behind so it
30:29
speeds up its expectations. And the
30:31
same if it watches the ball
30:33
and it realizes that its prediction
30:35
was just slightly ahead, then it
30:38
slows itself down. So it uses
30:40
the outside world as the ground
30:42
truth to keep itself nicely calibrated.
30:44
Now you might think, how would
30:47
you ever prove a hypothesis like
30:49
that? Well here's how. I had
30:51
people compare the durations of two
30:53
brief flashes on the screen. So
30:56
on the screen you see a
30:58
little circle that goes flash and
31:00
then a moment later another little
31:02
circle that goes flash and on
31:05
every trial I'm slightly tweaking the
31:07
duration so that one is slightly
31:09
longer than the other and you
31:11
just say which was longer than
31:14
which. Okay, now here's the trick.
31:16
I have people watch a video,
31:18
for example, a camera that follows
31:20
a cheetah sprinting across the seren
31:23
Getty. Now, if I just superimpose
31:25
one flash and then the second
31:27
flash, on top of the video,
31:29
you have no trouble saying which
31:32
one was longer than which. But
31:34
now I do something special. At
31:36
some point in the video, it
31:38
suddenly goes into slow motion. Now
31:41
you might know that when cheetahs
31:43
run, all four of their legs
31:45
come off the ground. So now
31:47
you're seeing this sleek animal floating
31:50
in the air and you're waiting
31:52
for his front paws to hit
31:54
the ground. But now that we're
31:56
suddenly in slow motion, your time
31:59
prediction is off. You expect it?
32:01
his legs to hit the ground,
32:03
but they haven't yet. And because
32:05
we evolved in a world with
32:08
no such thing as slow motion,
32:10
your brain's only choice is to
32:12
assume that the mistake is its
32:14
own. And it compensates by slowing
32:17
down its expectation. Now how do
32:19
I know the brain does this?
32:21
It's because I can see how
32:23
you judge the duration of a
32:25
flash during the sudden slow motion.
32:27
The flash now appears to
32:29
last a shorter time, about
32:31
27% shorter. Why? Roughly speaking,
32:33
it's because your brain is
32:36
forced to slightly tweak its
32:38
estimate of the pace of
32:40
time during the slow motion
32:42
bit. Think of it like
32:45
a clock ticking more slowly.
32:47
And now, the flash covers
32:49
fewer ticks. And so it
32:52
is judged to last less.
32:54
time. I did various control
32:56
versions of this experiment in
32:58
which I shuffled the frames or
33:01
I shuffled all the pixels or
33:03
I ran the whole thing upside
33:05
down and in all these cases
33:07
there was no distortion of the
33:09
apparent duration of the flashes. It
33:11
only happened when the future position
33:13
of an object was predictable by
33:16
physics. So let me just
33:18
summarize this. When your brain
33:20
is watching any scene... It's
33:23
making predictions about where things
33:25
will be, and if the
33:27
scene suddenly changes speed, then
33:29
your internal model will predict
33:32
incorrectly. But I suggest the
33:34
nervous system can eliminate these
33:36
feedback prediction errors with a
33:39
simple trick by modifying its
33:41
estimated speed of the flow
33:43
of physical time. It's a
33:45
very subtle change, but it
33:48
has measurable... perceptual consequences, which are
33:50
exposed by this novel time distortion
33:52
illusion. Okay, that was a little
33:55
technical, but it's one of my
33:57
favorite experiments. Now we've been talking.
34:00
making all about slow motion,
34:02
but on the flip side
34:04
of slow motion, there is
34:06
a world unmasked by fast
34:08
motion. Think about quickly blossoming
34:11
flowers, or imagine the arterial
34:13
traffic patterns of cities, or
34:15
watch the laminar rush of
34:17
clouds across the sky, or
34:19
observe the way that the
34:22
sun drops like a ball
34:24
behind the mountain and the
34:26
world dimms as though by
34:28
a dimmer switch. So fast
34:30
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34:33
much in the domain of
34:35
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let's take a look at the
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kind of descriptions you can generate
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when speeding up the world. In
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1895, H.G. Wells published The Time
38:40
Machine. He did this as a
38:42
serial novel in a magazine. It's
38:45
one of the earliest and most
38:47
influential works of science fiction, in
38:49
part because it introduced this concept
38:51
of a time travel device which
38:53
became a staple in the genre.
38:56
But it's beautifully written and we
38:58
can see the imagination of fast
39:00
time when the unnamed time traveler
39:02
builds this device and travels to
39:04
the the very distant future of
39:07
the year, 802, 701. But here's
39:09
the part I want to share
39:11
with you, when he cranks the
39:13
lever down on the machine and
39:15
gets going. This passage is read
39:17
again by actor Sean Judge. As
39:20
I put on pace, night followed
39:22
day like the flapping of a
39:24
black wing. I saw the sun
39:26
hopping swiftly across the sky, leaping
39:28
it every minute, and every minute
39:31
marking a day. The slowest snail
39:33
that ever crawled dashed by too
39:35
fast for me. Presently as I
39:37
went on, still gaining velocity, the
39:39
palpitation of day and night merged
39:42
into one continuous grayness. The jerking
39:44
sun became a streak of fire.
39:46
The moon, a fainter fluctuating band.
39:48
I saw trees growing and changing
39:50
like puffs of vapor. Huge buildings
39:53
rise up faint and fair and
39:55
pass like dreams. The
39:57
whole surface of
39:59
the Earth seemed
40:01
changed, melting and flowing
40:04
under my eyes." So in
40:06
the same way that slow
40:08
motion allows us to see
40:10
details that we would not
40:12
otherwise catch, fast motion plays
40:14
that same game. It's no
40:16
surprise then that a very
40:18
engaging style of cinematography is
40:20
to rapidly alternate between speeding
40:22
and slowing. Think of the
40:24
battle scenes in the movie
40:26
300. As the Spartans charge,
40:28
the camera captures their ferocity
40:30
in real time, the thunder
40:32
of their shields clashing and
40:34
the spears piercing, and
40:37
then suddenly the world slows,
40:39
and every movement stretches
40:41
into a balletic display of
40:43
destruction, sweat, glistens, blood
40:45
arcs grace flees through the
40:47
air like crimson silk.
40:49
The slow motion lingers on
40:51
every ripple of flesh,
40:53
every grimace of pain, before
40:55
snapping back to faster
40:57
than normal speed. You see
40:59
this explosion of chaos
41:02
and bodies tumbling and dust
41:04
swirling under the fury of
41:06
combat. If you've seen this
41:08
part of the movie you know
41:10
it's like an epic painting
41:12
that's come to life. But the
41:14
point I want to make
41:16
is that by alternating between slow
41:18
and fast the cinematography continues
41:20
to violate our predictions and so
41:22
it holds our attention throughout.
41:24
Now, one thing I find amazing
41:26
is that H .G. Wells wrote
41:28
his passage before there was
41:30
fast motion video to watch. So
41:32
he did this the old
41:34
fashioned way by imagining the whole
41:36
thing. Now it turns out
41:38
if you are sufficiently imaginative
41:40
you can really do an
41:42
amazing job on this even
41:44
before witnessing it yourself. For
41:47
example, five years before H .G.
41:49
Wells' time machine, the great
41:51
psychologist William James wrote a
41:53
book called Principles of Psychology.
41:55
He has a chapter called
41:57
The Perception of Time. In
42:00
it, he writes this strikingly poetic
42:02
passage. We have every reason to
42:04
think that creatures may possibly differ
42:06
enormously in the amounts of duration
42:08
which they intuitively feel, and in
42:10
the fineness of the events that
42:12
may fill it. Von Bayer has
42:15
indulged in some interesting computations of
42:17
the effect of such differences in
42:19
changing the aspect of nature. Suppose
42:21
we were able, within the length
42:23
of a second, to note 10,000
42:25
events distinctly instead of barely 10
42:27
as now. If our life were
42:29
then destined to hold the same
42:31
number of impressions, it might be
42:33
one thousand times as short. We
42:35
should live less than a month
42:38
and personally know nothing of the
42:40
change of seasons. If born in
42:42
winter, we should now believe in
42:44
summer, as we now believe in
42:46
the heats of the Carboniferous era.
42:48
The motions of organic beings would
42:50
be so slow to our senses
42:52
as to be inferred, not seen.
42:54
The sun would stand still in
42:56
the sky. the moon be almost
42:58
free from change, and so on.
43:01
But now, reverse the hypothesis, and
43:03
suppose a being to get only
43:05
one thousandth part of the sensations
43:07
that we get in a given
43:09
time, and consequently live one thousand
43:11
times as long. Winters and summers
43:13
will be to him like quarters
43:15
of an hour. Mushrooms and the
43:17
swifter-growing plants will shoot into being
43:19
so rapidly as to appear instantaneous
43:22
creations. annual shrubs will rise and
43:24
fall from the earth like restlessly
43:26
boiling water springs. The motions of
43:28
animals will be as invisible as
43:30
are to us the movements of
43:32
bullets and cannonballs. The sun will
43:34
scour through the sky like a
43:36
meteor, leaving a fiery trail behind
43:38
him, etc. That such imaginary cases,
43:40
barring the superhuman longevity, may be
43:42
realized somewhere in the animal kingdom,
43:45
it would be rash to deny.
43:47
Now, HG Wells may well have
43:50
read this passage from William James,
43:52
and the descriptions of them are
43:54
beautiful, so none of them actually
43:57
needed to see a Hollywood movie
43:59
to envision this. But I do
44:01
think that it doesn't hurt to
44:03
grow up around movie technology so
44:06
that one becomes very comfortable in
44:08
thinking about time in different ways
44:10
by actually seeing the experience oneself
44:12
by directly learning new ways of
44:15
perceiving. I'll give you an example.
44:17
Some of you in your 50s
44:19
or older will remember when your
44:22
teachers showed 8mm films in school.
44:24
Now if you've never seen this,
44:26
the way it works is that
44:28
the film strip is on a
44:30
reel, a big circular job. And as
44:33
the movie plays, that reel is unwinding
44:35
and the film is moving to a
44:37
second reel, which is collecting the film
44:39
strip. So the movie starts off wound
44:41
up on the first and... up wound
44:43
up around the second reel. But of
44:45
course, the beginning of the movie is
44:47
now in the middle of the second
44:49
reel and the end of the movie
44:51
is on the outside, so you have
44:53
to rewind the whole thing back onto
44:55
the first reel. So when you're done
44:57
watching the movie, you just pull the
44:59
lever to set the whole thing
45:02
in reverse. And you get to
45:04
witness the whole movie backwards. People
45:06
are walking backwards, bicyclists are biking
45:08
backwards, the train is reversing up
45:10
the track, the diner is getting
45:12
more food on his plate, the
45:14
person who slipped on the banana
45:16
peel now slips upward. So typically
45:19
the teacher reverses the film at
45:21
a much higher speed, so you
45:23
see the whole thing running backwards
45:25
quickly. But what I remember as
45:27
a little kid in school was
45:29
the delight this process always brought
45:32
to the whole class. So starting
45:34
many decades ago, everyone got to
45:36
see what backwards motion looked like.
45:39
Now, it's hard to prove this
45:41
with certainty, but one possibility is
45:43
that this helped people to think
45:45
about things in a new way,
45:48
to open up this new time
45:50
domain of things running backwards. So
45:52
take the Swiss physicist Ernst Stukelberg.
45:55
In the 1940s, he was chewing
45:57
on a problem about elementary particles.
45:59
His colleague Paul Dirac had published
46:02
a paper that unified a whole
46:04
bunch of things in physics, but
46:06
something came out of Dirac's equation
46:08
that was unexpected to everyone. The
46:11
math suggested there should be a
46:13
particle like an electron, but with
46:15
positive charge instead of negative. And
46:17
no one had ever seen this.
46:20
But here was the math saying
46:22
it should exist. Eventually this came
46:24
to be called a positron, but
46:26
no one knew what could explain
46:28
the existence of such a particle.
46:31
And in 1941, Stukelberg realized that
46:33
a positron and an electron are
46:35
the same little particle, but a
46:37
positron is just an electron traveling
46:40
backward in time. And that made
46:42
all the math work. Now, it's
46:44
impossible to know the answer, but
46:46
the question is, would Stukelberg have
46:49
had a harder time coming up
46:51
with this hypothesis if he had
46:53
never seen backward motion? Once you've
46:55
seen a film strip run, once
46:57
you've seen time run backward that
47:00
way, then that door of possibility
47:02
is opened up in your internal
47:04
model. And once it's open, you
47:06
can't shut it, and it's much
47:09
easier to think about things like
47:11
it. This is a specific case
47:13
of a more general truism that
47:15
new technologies allow us to experience
47:18
things that we could not have
47:20
experienced otherwise. And that really opens
47:22
up our mental space to new
47:24
ideas. And I'm very interested in
47:26
seeing where future technology takes us,
47:29
because we can nowadays try out
47:31
experiments in very simple ways that
47:33
were impossible last century. For example,
47:35
my son plays a V- our
47:38
game called Super Hot in which
47:40
you're fending off gun men who
47:42
are all trying to get you
47:44
but the key is that the
47:47
speed of motion of the world
47:49
depends on the movement of your
47:51
own body. So if you stand
47:53
very still the world creeps along
47:56
and super slow motion, but as
47:58
soon as you make a move
48:00
to lift your gun or move
48:02
a little bit, the world speeds
48:04
up. And if you're moving really
48:07
fast, the world around you moves
48:09
fast as well. It's an incredible
48:11
experience to play this. And for
48:13
the generation of children growing up,
48:16
it's just part of the background
48:18
furniture that you can play a
48:20
game where the passage of time
48:22
is variable and under your control.
48:25
But for the rest of us,
48:27
this is a whole new dimension
48:29
of time to explore. The final
48:31
thing we'll address today is why
48:33
we're not attracted to slow motion
48:36
in an audio-only format. I suggest
48:38
it's because with words, we're only
48:40
analyzing for the meaning. We're just
48:42
working to capture all the words
48:45
so that we can translate that
48:47
into an understanding of the message.
48:49
And in fact, we all know
48:51
from audio books and YouTube videos.
48:54
You can take in words at
48:56
a much faster pace than I
48:58
would be able to naturally produce
49:00
them. And so there's no benefit
49:02
in slowing them down. So that's
49:04
why we don't do the speeding
49:06
and slowing we see in the
49:08
movie 300 if we were reading
49:10
an audio book about the Battle
49:13
of Thermopylae. Like... Leonides swung
49:15
the broadsword and hit the Persian soldier
49:17
under the ribs. And then Leonides stepped
49:19
over the body and looked around until
49:22
he saw his next target, horseman charging
49:24
at him with a lance. And he
49:26
spun and ducked the lance. I don't
49:29
know. Maybe we've just invented a new
49:31
style there, but I doubt it. So...
49:33
We love to do slow motion with
49:35
videos, but not text. But I think
49:38
there's an interesting realm in between. Although
49:40
video is just over a century old,
49:42
I think there's a sense in which
49:45
people have for millennia figured out
49:47
how to dance in some way
49:49
between slow motion and fast motion.
49:51
And this is something I learned
49:53
from my friend Tony Brandt. We
49:55
were talking about these kinds of
49:57
ideas once, and Tony pointed out
49:59
the different... in opera between
50:01
the aria and the recitative.
50:03
And aria spends several minutes
50:05
on a single idea like
50:07
the love of the protagonist
50:10
for the beautiful maiden. It's
50:12
all about deep emotions and
50:14
reflections and it pauses the
50:16
plot to focus on the
50:19
character's inner feelings. But the
50:21
recitative is the opposite. First
50:23
of all, it's speech-like, there's
50:25
no rhythm, maybe just a
50:27
harpsichord, plays along. And the
50:30
only job of the recitative
50:32
is to crank the plot
50:34
along. It just tells you
50:36
about some big passage of
50:38
time. So... Arias explore something
50:41
simple in great depth, the
50:43
recitative moves the story forward.
50:45
So Arias might be considered
50:47
perhaps the medieval version of
50:50
Slomo in the cinema really
50:52
zooming in on the moment
50:54
while the recitative is the
50:56
fast motion speeding up. of
50:58
the plot. Okay, so I've
51:01
told you that we don't
51:03
do fast in slow motion
51:05
when there's only audio involved,
51:07
and there's a sense in
51:09
which we grasp at this
51:12
speeding or slowing with opera.
51:14
But it's different with visual
51:16
scenes, because here we're not
51:18
just trying to decrypt a
51:21
message, but instead we're watching
51:23
the incredibly high bandwidth visual
51:25
world. And we're making predictions
51:27
about the physics and getting
51:29
feedback from what we're seeing.
51:32
And if my hypothesis is
51:34
correct, we're calibrating our own
51:36
internal clocks to the world
51:38
of what we see. And
51:40
that's why fast and slow
51:43
motion, although they are relatively
51:45
recent additions to the canon
51:47
of cinema, this is why
51:49
they grab our attention and
51:52
are here to stay. So
51:54
let's wrap up. Beyond its
51:56
aesthetic and emotional appeal, slow
51:58
motion serves a critical narrative
52:00
function in filmmaking. manipulating time,
52:03
directors can emphasize key moments.
52:05
They can reveal hidden details.
52:07
They can grab your attention
52:09
by violating your brain's expectations.
52:11
Slow motion is more than
52:14
just a visual trick. It's
52:16
a way of stretching moments,
52:18
suspending us in the gravity
52:20
of an emotion or a
52:23
decision or a final breath
52:25
before impact. It allows us
52:27
to live inside the... flicker
52:29
of an instant to taste
52:31
the weight of time. Perhaps
52:34
this is why our brains
52:36
are so captivated by it.
52:38
Because in life, time generally
52:40
moves at one relentless speed.
52:43
But in film, we can
52:45
linger in a moment. We
52:47
can turn seconds into
52:49
minutes. We can reveal
52:52
the invisible in the
52:54
visible. Slow motion reminds
52:56
us that buried in
52:58
every blink, every heartbeat,
53:00
every fleeting instant, there
53:03
is a world of
53:05
depth waiting to be
53:07
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53:10
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53:12
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53:15
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