Welcome to episode 33 of Inside The Outer Loop. In this episode, Rich Jordan and James Walker are joined by special guest Anand Bagmar, a software quality evangelist with 25 years of experience in software testing. 

Together, they discuss Anand's journey into the testing field, his philosophy of being a 'quality bartender,' and insights from his recent speaking tour. The conversation delves into the challenges of test automation, the importance of shifting left in testing, and the role of AI in the testing landscape. 

Anand emphasizes the need for testability, the complexities of end-to-end automation, and the importance of having a strong voice in organizations to drive quality improvements. The episode concludes with Anand's advice on adopting practices that work for individual contexts rather than blindly following trends.

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