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of issues, etc. It
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the most frequently performed pieces
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of choral music in the
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world. It is known largely
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for the Alleluia Chorus, but there's so
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much more to Handel's Messiah, an attempt, some
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have said, to set the
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Gospel of Jesus Christ to
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music. Not just an attempt, but
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many have concluded a success. Greetings
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and welcome to Issues, et cetera, coming to
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you from the studios of Lutheran Public Radio
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on this Monday, Thursday. I'm Todd Wilkin. Thanks
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for tuning us in. We're going to
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talk about Handel's Messiah on the
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Passion of Christ with Dr. Joseph Hurl,
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an hour from now. We'll replay
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an interview with Dr. Peter Scare of
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Concordia Theological Seminary on apparent contradictions
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in the events of Holy
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Week. Dr. Joseph Hurl
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is professor of music at Concordia University
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of Nebraska. He's editor of
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Lutheran Service Book, companion to
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the hymns. Dr. Hurl, welcome
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back. Thank you, Todd. It's
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so great to be back. What
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moved Hondle to
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compose this epic
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piece on the birth, life,
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death and resurrection of Christ. Handel
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was in fact a religious
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man. He
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was born in 1685,
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named Georg Friedrich
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Handel, and that
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was the same year as Johann Sebastian Bach. He
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was born in the city of
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Halle in Saxony and baptized in
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a Lutheran church. Then
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he went to university to
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study law. Well, not
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right after his baptism. He grew
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up first, but he gave
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up the study of law after
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a year. He actually dropped
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out to become a church organist.
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Maybe he figured it paid better or something. He
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wound up at the electoral
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court in the city of Hanover
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with Elector Georg. He
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worked there for a while,
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but he'd sometimes ignore the
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court because he'd take frequent
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trips over to England to
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produce music there to the
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neglect of his duties in
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Hanover. And
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then the oddest thing
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happened. Queen Anne
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of Great Britain died, and
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the nearest relative who wasn't
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Catholic was none other than
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Georg of Hanover. So
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he became George I
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of England. He
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was an interesting sort of
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ruler. He had very much a
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hands -off policy because he didn't
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bother to attend cabinet meetings.
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He didn't speak any English, so
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why bother? Anyway,
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Handel was already in England, and
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so he became somewhat attached to
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the royal court there and became
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quite well -known. He
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was especially well -known as a
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composer of Italian opera. Now
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he was living in England,
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but at the time Opera in
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England was performed in the
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Italian language. Handel even ran
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his own opera company. It
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was successful for a couple
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of decades, but eventually the
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public lost interest in Italian
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opera, and Handel finally stopped
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writing them. Instead, he
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turned to writing
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oratorios. What
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is an oratorio? Hmm.
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The oratorio got its
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start in Rome in
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the late 16th century.
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A layman named Philip
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Neri, a later canonized as
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a saint, began a
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series of devotional meetings that
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met in a prayer hall
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or oratory. Music
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was an important part of
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the meetings and included hymns sung
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in Italian and musical presentations
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of biblical events. These
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were the oratorios named after
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the room where they took
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place, the oratory. By
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the time of Handel, a century and
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a half later, the oratorio
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sounded a lot like an
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opera, except that its
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text, or libretto, was
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religious rather than mythological
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or secular, and
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it was performed without costumes, scenery,
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or staging. In other words,
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it looked more like a concert
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than an opera. How
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did the work of the
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Messiah come about? That
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happened in 1741 when
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the viceroy of Ireland
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invited Handel to Dublin
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to produce a concert
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for charity. Handel
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brought with him a new
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oratorio that he had started
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on August 22nd and completed
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just 24 days later. What
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can you tell us
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about the texture libredo of
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Messiah? It
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was written for handle by
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Charles Jennings whose family
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wealth allowed him to spend
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time doing such things
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Most of handles oratorias are
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based on Old Testament
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themes first came Esther then
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Deborah then Saul Israel
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in Egypt and several others
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Messiah is an exception
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It forsook the usual characters
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and plot in favor
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of a loosely connected series
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of biblical prophecies and
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meditations concerning the coming of
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Christ. Messiah
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has three sections. The
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first part sets to music
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Old Testament prophecies concerning the Messiah
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and the story of the
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birth of Jesus. The
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second part sets Christ's suffering
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and death, His resurrection, His
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ascension into heaven, and the spread
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of the gospel on earth. The
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third part brings the message
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home and answers the question,
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What does all of this mean for me?
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Incidentally, a letter from the
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librettist Jenins reveals that he
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intended Messiah to be performed
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during Holy Week. This
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Passion of Christ with Dr. Joseph
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Hurl. When we return, did people
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the Passion of Christ with Dr.
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Joseph Hurl, Professor of Music at Concordia
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University, Nebraska. Dr. Hurl,
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did people like the Messiah when it was first
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performed? At its
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first performance in Dublin, the
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audience went wild with
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excitement. The London
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premiere the next year
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had mixed reviews. Some people
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found it blasphemous because
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texts from sacred scripture were
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being sung in a
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theater. King George
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was impressed, though. As the story
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goes, he was so moved that
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he rose to his feet during
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the Hallelujah Chorus, and
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so audiences have done that ever since.
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What performers do we hear
11:17
on this recording? This
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is a 1984 recording by
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the Academy of Ancient Music
11:24
under the director of Christopher
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Hogwood. I like
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it both because it
11:31
uses original performing forces, in
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other words a relatively
11:36
small choir and authentic instruments
11:38
and because it's musically
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vital and exciting. Part
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two begins with a
11:45
chorus with a text from
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John chapter one. behold
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the Lamb of God that taketh
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away the sin of the world. Then
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several movements with texts
11:56
from Isaiah 53. One
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of them is the chorus, surely
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he hath borne our griefs
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and carried our sorrows. Here
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it's obvious that Handel
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did not need costume staging
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or scenery to produce
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good drama. He does it
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with the music. The
12:18
chorus begins with the
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driving dotted rhythm in the
12:23
orchestra. And
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you're waiting for something to
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happen. It finally
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does when the chorus
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enters surely. And
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then, just in case there is
12:45
any doubt, repeats it. Surely. Surely
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he hath borne
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our griefs. And
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on griefs Handel
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uses an anguished diminished
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seventh chord. He
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does it again when the
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phrase repeats. Then
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we have a softer
13:13
and slower section. but the
13:15
word painting continues with
13:17
a lovely suspension on the
13:19
word wounded, displaying the
13:21
pathos of the moment, and
13:25
unexpected harmonies
13:27
on the
13:29
word bruised,
13:32
which is
13:34
pronounced bruised
13:37
here. Even
13:39
better, there are There are
13:41
unusual leaps in the lower
13:44
voices to emphasize the word
13:46
hour, in he
13:48
was wounded for
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our transgressions, he was
13:52
bruised for our
13:54
iniquities. Christ
13:57
didn't die for some anonymous
13:59
world, but for us, for
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you and me. The
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final section, the chastisement
14:05
of our peace, brings
14:08
a soothing major
14:10
on the word peace. Let's
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listen. Shorry,
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shorry, in
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the car! of
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each
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and every
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of
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us. Shorry,
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shorry, in
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the blood
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of each and
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every of
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us. Shorry,
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shorry, us.
15:42
Shorry, shorry,
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of
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each
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us. Dr.
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Hurl, what more would you say about that first
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piece? That is
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full of all the emotion Handel
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could bring to it. The
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next one, because it's
16:20
rather different, it steps back
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from all the emotion
16:24
and sets the text and
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with his stripes we
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are healed Dispassionately almost clinically.
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Handel's device for this is a
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fugue with voices entering one
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at a time with the same
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musical motive or subject. Here
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he the important
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word stripes with
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large unusual leap
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downward. And
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with his
16:53
stripes we
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are led.
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device for this
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is fugue
17:26
with
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voices
17:34
one the motive subject.
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Handel's device
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for fugue with
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the
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same
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musical
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motive
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subject. and it's going to
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be day.
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And it's going
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to be
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a day. And
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it's going
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to be a
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day. And
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it's going to
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a day. And
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it's
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going
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to
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day. day. Then
18:57
have the text all like
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sheep gone astray, and the
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Lord has laid on him
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the of us
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all, still from Isaiah
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53 Now, if you
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were a composer, what
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sort of mood would you create
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for these words, all we like
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sheep gone astray, and the Lord
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has laid on him the iniquity
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of us all? something
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somber Yeah,
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I would too What
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Handel does is interesting. A
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month or two earlier,
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he had written a duet
19:34
cantata in Italian for
19:36
the of King George. In
19:39
it, the singers declare
19:41
that they never again allow
19:43
blind love or beauty
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to trap them. And
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the last movement sounds like this. Super
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Pro! Super
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Pro! you
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Handel took this music, adapted it
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to fit new words and set
21:11
it for four -part chorus. What
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is amazing is how
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perfectly it fits. Here
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we are, like the
21:21
prodigal son, wasting our
21:23
time in frivolous pursuits,
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going away like sheep,
21:28
and Handel sets this
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text to perfectly frivolous
21:33
music. On the
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words, have gone astray,
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Handel retains that to
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duet texture and we
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hear the two voices moving
21:43
apart from each other occasionally in
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odd harmonic directions, underscoring
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the idea of going
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astray. All through
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this the instrumental bass is
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in running eighth notes that
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never stop After all
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the ways of the
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world. keep us mighty busy
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then We get to
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the words, we have turned,
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we have turned everyone
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to his own way. Can
22:11
you guess how he sets the
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word turned? It's
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just begging for word
22:17
painting and handle
22:19
can't resist. We
22:22
have turned.
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That's. The music
22:31
we just heard in the duet
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cantata, only they sang it much
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better than I did. So
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we play and play
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all night and day, and
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eventually our dissolute life
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lands us right in the
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gutter. And
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it is then that
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Handel gives us the
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gospel, and the Lord
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hath laid on him the iniquity
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of us all. This
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he sets to newly composed
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music. What sort
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of music does he use for that? Well,
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I'm not going to tell you. Let's
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find out. We
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have done, we
23:37
have done, we have
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done, to, to,
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to, to, to, to,
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to, to, to, to, to, to, to,
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to, have
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come to stay We
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have turned world,
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into a world Into
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a world, into world
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We have
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turned Everyone
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to his own way
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Everyone to his own way
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Oh, real like a
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sheep you
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gone astray
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We've gone astray
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We've gone
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astray We've
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gone astray
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We have
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turned We
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have turned We
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have turned We have
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turned Everyone
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to his own way We have
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turned they have turned and there's
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a his white, there's a white,
25:08
his own way there's a a
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white, there's white, white, white, there's
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a a white, white, white, Oh,
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white, white, there's white, white, a
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sheep white, Oh,
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real like a
25:22
sheep We've gone astray
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We've gone astray We
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have turned We
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have turned We
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have turned Everyone
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to his own way
25:44
We have turned We
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have turned
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We have
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turned We
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have turned
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To Thank
26:01
you. everyone, to
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be a way,
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We will challenge
26:08
everyone to this
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whole way. And
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the moment,
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and
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the
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moment, moment,
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and the
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moment, And
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the moment,
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and the
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moment, And
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moment, moment, the
26:42
moment, and
26:44
moment, And
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the moment,
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and
27:05
moment, It's
27:16
an interesting choice for Handel to have
27:18
made there. You
27:20
know, on the one hand, he
27:22
had the music handy. He'd
27:25
just written it not long before
27:27
that. And so he said, I'm
27:29
going to reuse this. He actually
27:31
did that a lot. Wasn't always
27:33
his own music either. Sometimes he'd take
27:36
moment, by other composers that was And
27:38
moment, not uncommon at the time for
27:40
composers to do. But also
27:42
think he understood this text. He
27:44
knew where it was coming
27:46
from. He was a religious man
27:49
to the end of his
27:51
life. and even in England, where
27:53
Lutheran churches were hard to
27:55
find, he still managed to get
27:57
to the Lutheran chapel in
27:59
London. so I Think he was
28:01
expressing the text here Dr.
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Messiah on the Passion of Christ is
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Issues, etc. We're talking about Handel's
32:07
Messiah and the Passion of Christ
32:09
with Dr. Joseph Pearl, professor of
32:11
music at Concordia University, Nebraska, editor
32:13
of Lutheran service book, Companion to
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32:42
what's next? Next,
32:44
we're going to do a
32:46
movement from Psalm 22. This
32:48
is the Psalm that begins,
32:50
my God, my God, why
32:52
have you forsaken me? This
32:54
is David speaking, but Jesus
32:57
quotes that while he's on
32:59
the cross and David continues
33:01
and complains but I am
33:03
a worm and not a
33:05
man scorned by mankind and
33:07
despised by the people all
33:09
who see me mock me
33:11
they make mouths at me
33:13
they wag their heads and
33:15
they're saying he trusts in
33:17
the Lord let him deliver
33:19
him let him rescue him
33:21
for he delights in him
33:23
These are the words that
33:25
Handel sets to music here.
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He trusted in God that
33:29
he would deliver him Let
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him deliver him if he
33:33
delight in him. So is
33:35
God gonna deliver Jesus from
33:37
the cross or not? Well,
33:40
we know how that
33:42
turns out, but those people
33:44
mocking him didn't know
33:46
yet and Handel sets this
33:49
to strong shall we
33:51
almost say masculine music He
33:53
trusted in God
33:56
that he would
33:58
deliver him. Let
34:00
deliver him if
34:03
he delight in
34:05
him. Except, let's
34:07
hear the chorus, sing it better
34:09
than I did. He
34:12
trusteth in God that
34:14
he would deliver him.
34:17
let deliver him, if
34:19
he delight in him.
34:21
He trusted God that
34:23
he would deliver him.
34:26
Let him deliver him,
34:28
if he delight in
34:30
him. Let
34:33
him deliver him,
34:35
if he delight in
34:37
him. he delight
34:39
in him. Except, the
34:42
chorus, sing it
34:44
better did.
34:46
Let him deliver
34:49
him, if he him.
34:52
Let him deliver him, he
34:55
delight in
34:57
him. Let him
34:59
deliver him, if
35:02
he delight
35:05
If him. him he delight
35:07
in him. Let him deliver
35:09
him, him
35:11
deliver him,
35:14
if he
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him. you
35:18
you There's
36:31
a few more minutes of
36:33
music before Jesus dies. Then
36:35
comes the resurrection, and
36:37
here, Handel has a
36:39
problem. You've just
36:41
put everything you've got, musically
36:45
speaking, into Christ's
36:47
passion. Now, how are
36:49
you going to top that? Here,
36:53
Jenin's The provides a
36:55
tidy solution. The
36:58
resurrection happens as
37:00
it were, and and the just
37:03
refers to it. In
37:05
fact, the whole oratorio does
37:07
this. It's not really a narration
37:09
of events, but an attempt
37:11
to show from Scripture Jesus
37:13
is the Messiah. So
37:16
next thing you know, Jesus
37:18
is ascending into heaven. Then comes
37:20
the day of Pentecost, as
37:22
usual represented by an Old
37:24
Testament text. The
37:26
Lord gave the word. Great
37:29
was the company of the
37:31
preachers. that's from Psalm 68. Listen
37:34
for the simplicity and
37:36
directness of God's Word
37:38
as compared with the
37:41
busyness of the preachers
37:43
as they run excitedly
37:45
around. Jesus,
37:56
great was the company preachers,
37:59
68. Great
38:08
was the company of the
38:10
nations. The Lord
38:13
gave the world
38:15
great was the
38:17
power. So
39:01
how does the world
39:03
react to the preaching of
39:05
the gospel? In
39:07
the words of Psalm 2, the
39:10
nations furiously rage
39:12
together, the of
39:14
the earth rise up and
39:16
the rulers take counsel together
39:18
against the Lord against
39:20
his anointed. The
39:22
soloist here is David
39:25
Thomas, who does a
39:27
marvelous job. Why
39:52
do the nations
39:54
of New York still
39:56
rage together? Why
39:59
do... people imagine
40:01
a fainting, while
40:03
good an dread.
40:12
So you're just a little
40:14
ghetto Why
40:17
do the people fainting?
40:28
a fainting The
40:32
kings of the
40:35
earth rise up
40:37
And the rulers
40:39
take counsel together
40:41
against the law.
40:44
and His anointing
40:48
Let us break the
40:50
silence Let us
40:52
break the silence Let
40:55
us break the
40:57
silence And
41:03
cast our
41:05
weapons Let
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us Let
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us
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break
41:23
the
41:26
silence
41:29
l!
41:53
O! But
42:45
God wins in the
42:47
end. As
42:49
the book of Revelation tells us, the
42:52
kingdom of this world is
42:54
become kingdom of our
42:56
Lord of His Christ,
42:59
and He shall reign for
43:01
ever and ever. Hallelujah!
43:26
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
43:30
Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
43:42
Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!
43:51
I know, I
43:54
know, I know, I
43:56
know He
44:30
is in town,
44:32
born in the
44:34
northern grove, And
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come with Christ,
44:39
and come with
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God. He shall
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reign forever and
44:46
ever, And
44:48
he shall
44:51
reign
44:53
forever and
44:55
ever,
44:57
And he
44:59
shall
45:02
reign forever
45:04
and
45:06
ever, And
45:08
he
45:10
shall ever,
45:24
Halleluja
45:28
halleluja
45:32
Hallelujah
45:36
halleluja
46:00
O 'er the land
46:02
of heaven and
46:04
home of God.
46:08
He is
46:10
the
46:12
King, the
46:14
King,
46:16
the King
46:18
of
46:20
Heaven and
46:22
Earth. Dr.
46:51
Dr. Hurl, what would you like
46:53
for our listeners to know
46:55
about this particular piece that most
46:57
familiar with from Hunnels the
46:59
Hallelujah chorus. You
47:02
know, with something like
47:04
this, all you have to
47:06
do is soak it
47:08
in. I've heard this
47:10
many, many times and have performed
47:13
it myself and every time
47:15
I hear it I still get
47:17
chills up and down my
47:19
spine. This
47:21
is in fact one of
47:23
the last pieces of music
47:26
that ever heard as far
47:28
as we know. The
47:31
last performance he attended
47:33
in his life was a
47:35
performance of Messiah and
47:37
a few days later
47:39
he was taken ill
47:41
and he died on
47:44
April 14th 1759 at
47:46
his home the
47:48
age of 74 I
47:50
the was going through
47:52
his mind as he
47:54
listened to that last
47:56
performance? Was
47:59
he looking forward to the life to
48:01
come? I'm
48:04
guessing yes. We're
48:06
talking about Handel's Messiah on the
48:08
Passion of Christ. Dr. Joseph Hurl, professor
48:10
of music at Concordia University, Nebraska,
48:13
is our guest. We'll get his final
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51:59
the Passion of Christ. Dr. Joseph
52:01
Hurl is our guest professor of music
52:03
at Concordia University in Nebraska, editor
52:05
of Lutheran's service book, Companion to the
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Hymns. Dr. Hurl, your final thoughts
52:09
on Handel's Messiah on the Passion of
52:11
Christ. The
52:13
passion is not depicted
52:16
literally in the
52:18
way it is in
52:20
the passions of
52:22
composers such as J
52:24
.S. Bach. It's hinted
52:26
at. What we
52:28
see in Messiah is
52:30
the result of
52:32
the passion. What it
52:34
means for us. We
52:37
get that actually more in
52:39
part three, which we're not
52:41
hearing today. But even
52:43
here, we see that
52:45
in the end, God
52:48
is in charge. He
52:51
is victorious over death. Death
52:54
has not defeated him. Christ
52:58
is risen from the dead,
53:00
trampling down death by
53:02
death and bestowing
53:04
life on those in
53:06
the tombs. Isn't
53:09
that amazing? Dr.
53:12
Hurl, you are the editor
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and a lot of minor hymnals
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in English to make
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use of the earliest
53:48
known sources of every
53:50
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harmonization in the book. And
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the result of
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54:06
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information that wasn't quite
54:10
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54:12
altogether. And so
54:14
it should be a significant
54:16
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54:19
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54:23
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54:25
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54:27
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54:48
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54:52
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54:54
Hurl, thank you very much. It's
54:57
such a pleasure to be back with you.
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Thank you. In hour two, we'll
55:01
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55:04
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