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his back. She's back,

1:36

she's better never, I'm

1:38

sure you have some

1:41

grievances, you're ready to

1:43

share with our listener. Okay,

1:45

I'll tell you what my grievance

1:47

is. I have had it with small

1:50

talk. There is nothing more

1:52

miserable than having to

1:54

make small talk with people

1:56

that you don't know. that don't

1:58

care about what you're saying. You

2:00

don't care what you're saying. It

2:02

is so miserable. Like when I

2:04

walk into a place, walked into

2:06

a place Friday night for parents

2:09

weekend and there were like 60

2:11

people and I just was like,

2:13

I can't do it. I think

2:15

I stayed for five minutes, talked

2:17

to three people that I knew

2:19

and left because I just, I'm

2:21

like, small talk just makes me

2:23

insane. I just want to go

2:25

insane when I think I have

2:27

small talk. I have a question

2:29

for you. What? Why do you

2:31

engage in it so frequently when

2:33

we're together with strangers? Well, is

2:35

it to torture me? It's to

2:37

torture you. No, I mean, that

2:39

would make more sense. That would

2:41

be a side benefit to torture

2:44

you. I don't realize I'm doing

2:46

it. It overwhelms me when I

2:48

go into a room and there's

2:50

like 50 people that I'm kind

2:52

of supposed to know, that our

2:54

kids are doing the same thing,

2:56

but I don't know, and I

2:58

just, I start panicking. I don't

3:00

want to do this. I hear

3:02

you and I completely concur and

3:04

I have the exact same grievance.

3:06

However, when I'm going to a

3:08

place with you and we enter

3:10

a place, I know that the

3:12

weak link and the one that's

3:14

going to fall prey and most

3:17

susceptible to small talk will be

3:19

you. 100% I mean the other

3:21

day we were just in the

3:23

parking lot in front of the

3:25

studio and a girl walks up

3:27

and next thing I know, we're

3:29

25 questions deep into her child

3:31

support hearings. Part of my problem

3:33

is I'm nosy. Yeah, I mean

3:35

that's part of it, but I

3:37

have to tell you this story.

3:39

Okay, you're gonna die. So we

3:41

go to lunch or go to

3:43

dinner with all the parents from

3:45

Emily's friends and halfway through the

3:47

dinner Emily grabs me by the

3:49

leg and she looks at me

3:52

she goes. Everyone at this table

3:54

is on suicide watch because you

3:56

will not quit talking about the

3:58

dog. And I realized all I

4:00

was doing was talking about my

4:02

French bulldog. And even after she

4:04

told me, I knew she was

4:06

right. I knew everybody. was on

4:08

suicide watch. I knew they all

4:10

wanted me to shut the fuck

4:12

up. I couldn't. I just kept

4:14

talking about how cute he was.

4:16

I was passing my phone around.

4:18

But yeah, I mean, halfway through

4:20

the dinner, she's like, stop. And

4:22

I couldn't stop. I recently did

4:24

something like this and I realized

4:27

like mid story. What a grave

4:29

error I had made. So I

4:31

pulled up to the tennis center

4:33

and the head pro was like,

4:35

hey, I like your car. He's

4:37

a British guy. I proceeded to

4:39

tell him that the car I

4:41

had before that, I was in

4:43

a massive hail storm that would

4:45

pummeled it, broke the windshield, had

4:47

all this body damage, another basketball

4:49

mom I was with, threw up

4:51

in the car, and I no

4:53

longer wanted the car. And as

4:55

I'm into all of these details,

4:57

like all I had to say

4:59

when he said I like your

5:02

cars, thanks, thank you. How are

5:04

you today? But I volunteered all

5:06

of this. boring, irrelevant information and

5:08

it was only halfway through that

5:10

I realized I'm not taking into

5:12

account his feelings to hear this.

5:14

So I wrapped it up pretty

5:16

quickly and you know, it's just

5:18

awful. I have a new story

5:20

to tell you. So yesterday I

5:22

was at my tennis lesson and

5:24

I was playing awful. I mean

5:26

awful. I was just mental, I

5:28

couldn't hit the ball, my timing

5:30

was off, everything was off. And

5:32

I could just tell Jeff had

5:34

had it with me. I mean,

5:37

I'm bitching after every point. He's

5:39

just crushing me. And so he

5:41

finally was just disgusted. He cannot

5:43

take it anymore. And he walks

5:45

up to the net and he

5:47

goes, maybe if you're not going

5:49

to hit any balls with any

5:51

pace on him, maybe you should

5:53

try to hit them away for

5:55

me instead of just hitting me

5:57

softballs the whole hour Jennifer. percent

5:59

right. It was like the pep

6:01

talk that I needed and it

6:03

were reminded me that there is

6:05

this movement that we oppose, this

6:07

toxic positivity movement where people want

6:10

to be praised all the time.

6:12

And if Jeff had just continued

6:14

to tell me, good shot, good

6:16

shot, how does that help me?

6:18

How does it help anyone? It

6:20

just feeds this ridiculous, non-deserved ego

6:22

that I have about being an

6:24

athlete, right? It just would feed

6:26

the worst parts of me. Instead,

6:28

he chewed my ass out. And

6:30

I went back and actually started

6:32

playing a lot better. And I

6:34

thought, you know, sometimes somebody checking

6:36

you and just saying, if this

6:38

is what you're going to do

6:40

fine, but you know, I'm paying

6:42

him. And he's like, is this

6:45

really what we're going to do

6:47

here today? Jennifer, he chewed my

6:49

ass out and it was so

6:51

great. Yeah, I do think that's

6:53

one thing that. people younger than

6:55

us. I'm going to say millennials,

6:57

Gen Z. They're missing the component

6:59

of when you get your attitude

7:01

and you're criticized. Typically you do

7:03

better. Yes. You try harder. Yes.

7:05

So all this toxic, you're the

7:07

best. You're so special. You're so

7:09

unique. Your mommy loves you. Let's

7:11

get five pictures. That doesn't help

7:13

them evolve. Right. But the whole

7:15

story of life is you get

7:17

not down. You get up again.

7:20

Yeah, and I'm just gonna tell

7:22

you like my after that the

7:24

timing the rhythm the forehands Rip

7:26

City baby I mean got better

7:28

and then I play then we

7:30

played to 10 at the very

7:32

end and I beat Jeff 10-8

7:34

I lost every single game before

7:36

that every single one and it

7:38

was after the Ash chewing that

7:40

I showed up and I started

7:42

playing proper tennis. All right, let

7:44

me tell you what I've had

7:46

it with I've had it with,

7:48

there's a lot of things I've

7:50

had it with Trump, but this

7:52

is just something, sometimes I want

7:55

to talk about something that we

7:57

can all just talk about that's

7:59

not so deep and not so

8:01

emotionally damaging to hear about and

8:03

have the perfect grievance regarding him.

8:05

His desecration, interior desecration of the

8:07

Oval Office. This motherfucker thinks he's

8:09

Marie Antoinette and the oval is

8:11

Versailles. It is a shame to

8:13

that era in French design and

8:15

architecture. It is embarrassing to the

8:17

oval office. It looks like a

8:19

Nouveau-Rish white trash. Rifraf, Nicknack, Fleam

8:21

Market. It is so embarrassing and

8:23

every time he's in there, he's

8:25

popped up more gold. Yeah. And

8:27

I just think it looks horrible.

8:30

I think it is some of the

8:32

worst design I have ever seen. I

8:34

hate it. Well, here's the thing. When

8:36

I heard Trump had a gold toilet,

8:39

this was years and years and years

8:41

ago before he was in politics, I

8:43

thought, this motherfucker's insecure. has a gold

8:46

toilet. And then you see all the

8:48

pictures from like his apartment and Trump

8:50

Tower and Maralago and you think, this

8:53

is like 1980s, looks like shit, like

8:55

you said, trying to be French chic,

8:57

but it just looks cheap. When we

9:00

saw the bathroom where he kept all

9:02

the nuclear secrets, it just looked cheap.

9:04

I mean, I look at what he's

9:06

done in the Oval Office and I

9:08

think, here's the problem. Like when you

9:10

and I met, the first thing you

9:12

said to me was, you have terrible

9:14

taste. And that allowed me to give, see,

9:16

all control and you picked

9:18

it out and I loved it.

9:20

Right. Donald Trump is a victim

9:22

of somebody saying, oh my God,

9:25

all this gold looks so good.

9:27

You have great taste. Instead of

9:29

somebody checking him and making him

9:31

better, or perhaps saying, let's hire

9:34

somebody that does this and you

9:36

get hands off, it looks exactly

9:38

like I expect the inside of

9:40

his brain to look. Just a

9:43

bunch of trashy knick-knacks. that have

9:45

absolutely no charm. It's just,

9:47

it's so gross. Let's take

9:49

it a level deeper. I

9:52

think at the core of

9:54

MAGA is masculine insecurity. 100%.

9:57

And Trump tries to

9:59

project. what he is insecure

10:01

about all the time. He tries

10:03

to project that he's so mainly,

10:05

yet he, oh my God, people

10:08

write bad articles about me. Yeah,

10:10

Motherfucker, you're the president of the

10:12

United States. Welcome to the big

10:14

stage. Right. You know, why are

10:16

you being such a pussy about

10:18

it? He inherited $500 million, squandered

10:21

it, has been a horrible businessman.

10:23

Absolutely horrible, but yet he tries

10:25

to project this Marie Antoinette nouou

10:27

rich, you know, translated over to

10:29

the Americas, which is just a

10:32

disgrace. And I think he and

10:34

all of the people surrounding him

10:36

are either have massive problems with

10:38

masculine insecurity, or the women that

10:40

surround them are kind of like

10:42

battered wives. You know, they go

10:45

out there and campaign against the

10:47

very principles that enabled them to

10:49

be women that hold that level

10:51

of job, like Christie Nome, Tulsa

10:53

Gabbard, etc. So I just think

10:56

these are like. the worst impulses

10:58

of America that we've ever bred,

11:00

all the worship of capitalism, the

11:02

worship of the patriarchy, the worship

11:04

of white supremacy, and we broke

11:06

it down so hard, we got

11:09

the people who were damaged the

11:11

most by the worship of all

11:13

of these things, they got elected.

11:15

Right. They're in power. That's what

11:17

happened. Yeah, that is what happened.

11:20

And when the autopsy is on

11:22

this, the acquiescence that happened from,

11:24

you know, after from Trump, 1.0

11:26

and the four years in the

11:28

middle, before we get to Trump

11:31

2.0, all of the lack of

11:33

movement to prevent this from happening

11:35

within America. But also now, you

11:37

know, our allies are like, oh

11:39

shit, we can't align with America

11:41

anymore. I hope the world lesson

11:44

is, when somebody elects a dictator

11:46

that attempts to sue, and the

11:48

country hasn't put him in jail

11:50

yet, then you've got to start

11:52

treating that country and their populace.

11:55

somebody you might not want to

11:57

do business with, and maybe that

11:59

would have helped the Biden administration

12:01

and the Democrats take it more

12:03

seriously, if the EU and Canada

12:05

and others would have said, WTF,

12:08

what are y'all doing here? Right.

12:10

I completely agree. I'm not saying

12:12

it's their fault per se. I

12:14

think it is a worldwide problem

12:16

where everybody just leans into the

12:19

assumption politics, and we assume, well,

12:21

people aren't going to be that

12:23

crazy to elect him again. That's

12:25

not going to happen. People right

12:27

now are assuming, well, we're going

12:29

to get to the midterms, and

12:32

whenever we play assumption politics, we

12:34

get our asses handed to us,

12:36

because guess what they're doing right

12:38

now? There's a bunch of crackheads,

12:40

like Steve Bannon and all these

12:43

other. just nut jobs that are

12:45

over there machinating about how can

12:47

we get how can we get

12:49

him a third term right and

12:51

we're sitting here going all that'll

12:54

never happen right if they're actually

12:56

sitting there figuring out how to

12:58

do it and that's the problem

13:00

is this assumption politics this assumption

13:02

that everybody's can do the right

13:04

thing when you assume it makes

13:07

an ass out of me and

13:09

you I just want to say

13:11

this one thing when you look

13:13

at Donald Trump I mean head

13:15

to toe just aesthetically you've got

13:18

the worst hair I've ever seen

13:20

The worst makeup, like I still

13:22

don't understand why he does not

13:24

have a professional makeup. It is

13:26

so terrible. His suits are too

13:28

big. He has shoulder pads. His

13:31

ties go past his dick. His

13:33

shoe lifts, shoe lifts. He leans

13:35

over like the... He is a

13:37

disaster aesthetically... top to bottom. So

13:39

it surprises me zebra. Oh, here's

13:42

another. His golf swing is terrible.

13:44

And when he wears his golf

13:46

pants, they're like under his big

13:48

door, like empty, empty, totally. I'm

13:50

the biggest dork. And then you

13:52

have all these insecure men. Yeah.

13:55

He is their idealized form of

13:57

masculinity. Think about that. I mean,

13:59

the psychological autopsy on this whole

14:01

thing, if we survive it is

14:03

fascinating. It's just fascinating how broken,

14:06

magilloyalists are, what broken, immoral, disgusting,

14:08

cruel, nasty people they are, that

14:10

they like triple trumped it with

14:12

them. Yeah, and there's so many

14:14

of them. That's the terrifying thing.

14:16

Welcome to. I've had it. Very

14:19

uplifting intro. I'm Jennifer. We're just

14:21

so fun. I'm Angie. The HBIC

14:23

had beaver in charge. We've adopted

14:25

the beaver. Because the beaver, don't

14:27

fuck with the beaver. Don't fuck

14:30

with the beaver and it's Canada's

14:32

animal. Right, the mascot. And we

14:34

love Canada. We do love Canada.

14:36

Um, highly. How are you? I'm

14:38

good. I feel like I need

14:41

a new nickname. I do too.

14:43

I need a new one. Jessica's

14:45

gone. I think you need a

14:47

new one. Yeah. Pumps all the

14:49

good one. She gets all the

14:51

evolution of nicknames always favors favors

14:54

you. because you're the favorite. We

14:56

used to make fun of that.

14:58

We rebrand you all the time

15:00

to keep you exciting for the

15:02

listener. The listener, the listener loves

15:05

a Pumps rebrand. Yeah, I mean,

15:07

Meet Curtin, America's legal eagle. I

15:09

did love Princess Diana, because I

15:11

love Princess Diana was a great

15:13

one. But I just, I sincerely

15:15

want to stick with the beaver.

15:18

Instead of Angie Pumps Sullivan, I

15:20

want it to be Angie B.

15:22

Sullivan attorney at law. America's Beaver

15:24

Sullivan. I like it. I've got

15:26

some reviews. Okay. This one is

15:29

titled five stars, but it's only

15:31

four stars. That's good

15:33

stuff. And Savannah writes, I found

15:35

this podcast to be an indispensable

15:37

tool in my social vetting process.

15:39

It's a friendship litmus test of

15:41

unparalleled efficacy. To weed out incompatibility

15:43

in new friendships, I simply suggest

15:45

a listen. Any reaction deviating from

15:47

a resounding, I love it, or

15:50

it's hilarious, and decisive social excommunication.

15:52

Rightfully, so. I'll tell you what,

15:54

that's something. I never anticipated happening,

15:56

but I totally support. I do

15:58

too. And I love even that

16:00

she lurdies in with five stars,

16:02

but it was really only four.

16:04

Yeah, you think that was a

16:06

typo or do you think that's

16:08

just a fuck with the old

16:10

ladies that hosts the podcast? My

16:13

guess is it was an accident.

16:15

We're nothing less than a five-star

16:17

podcast, so. Well, I mean, obviously.

16:19

I mean, we're America's top DEA

16:21

podcast. Right. I mean, you don't

16:23

get to the top of the

16:25

DEA podcast. We're all for four

16:27

stars. This is hot shit hotel

16:29

over here at the I've had

16:31

it. And they write, nine months

16:33

ago, I would have never thought

16:35

that the dawning of an angelic

16:38

beaver, a pickleball grand slam champion,

16:40

and a DEA-hire lesbian with a

16:42

sense of humor almost as dry

16:44

as the beaver's meat curtains, would

16:46

be my life coaches to lead

16:48

me to achieve new hashtag goals,

16:50

such as listening to a podcast

16:52

from the beginning to the present

16:54

day and pre-ordering a book, both

16:56

first for me. Thank you, Mima,

16:58

Jessica, and Kiki for bringing joy

17:01

to my workdays and helping me

17:03

reevaluate my complicated relationship with the

17:05

Deep South. How is change supposed

17:07

to happen if the ones capable

17:09

of making change want to run

17:11

away? Kaka, Munch Munch. Oh, Munch

17:13

Munch. Is that, is that some

17:15

sort of lesbian jargon? No, I

17:17

think it's beaver. Kind of go

17:19

hand in hand either way. Right?

17:21

Beaver munure? Beaver. Yeah. And Kiki.

17:24

I like that for you. Yeah.

17:26

Kiki's good. Kiki's good. There's a

17:28

whole Drake song. Kiki, do you

17:30

love me? Yeah, I mean you

17:32

have a song. Yeah, even though

17:34

I'm team. I was going to

17:36

say, you're the biggest Kendrick Claaborn

17:38

thing I've ever now. I'm team

17:40

Kendrick Lamar. I mean, there's just

17:42

no question about it. I mean,

17:44

him wearing those little saline breeches,

17:47

looking straight in the camera, telling

17:49

Drake to go, fuck himself. It's

17:51

just some of the best. That's

17:53

what I needed in that exact

17:55

moment. I wish he'd make another.

17:57

across Instagram that's like, you know.

17:59

after the Super Bowl, all the

18:01

women went and searched their closet

18:03

for the saline pants and I

18:05

was like, I know who found

18:07

them. I, yeah, I knew I

18:09

had them right when I saw

18:12

him. Immediately, they were, there was

18:14

a recent purchase. But anyway, yeah,

18:16

I think Kiki, I'm like in

18:18

Kiki, Kiki, the Magic Lesbian. I

18:20

like it. Kiki, the Magic Lesbian.

18:22

Yeah, I like that. I like

18:24

the soundtrack soundtrack to it. Kiki,

18:26

the Magic Lesbian, is a really

18:28

good. I like that review about

18:30

us restoring faith of people in

18:32

the South. And here's what I

18:35

have to say, that everybody needs

18:37

to realize is even though our

18:39

state is probably like 60, 65%

18:41

magga, that 35% when you are

18:43

a liberal. in a red state,

18:45

you really fight for it. Like

18:47

you've earned it. Like I feel

18:49

like liberals in red states have

18:51

more fighting us than coastal liberals

18:53

that take advantage, take for granted

18:55

the state governments that protect them.

18:58

And I'll give you a prime

19:00

example. Pamps and I had on

19:02

Governor Kathy Hochle. of New York.

19:04

And I just thought, man, this

19:06

woman, is it dynamo? I still

19:08

think she's a dynamo. I think

19:10

she's fantastic. We just really connected

19:12

with her and bonded with her.

19:14

And then we're up in New

19:16

York to do some business for

19:18

the podcast and some of our

19:21

friends that are New Yorker's like,

19:23

God, we had your governor on.

19:25

She's fantastic. And they were like,

19:27

ugh. We hate her. Let me

19:29

tell you what's going on with

19:31

my governor. Right. Let me tell

19:33

you what's going on. Abortion ban

19:35

dedicates every square inch to Jesus

19:37

and thinks that says a statement

19:39

like this, government needs to be

19:41

run like a business and doesn't

19:43

understand how intellectually dishonest and stupid

19:46

that statement is. We're dealing with

19:48

dip shit extraordinary out the wazoo

19:50

and you have the luxury of

19:52

disagreeing with. your governor about policy.

19:54

That's the different. And so, you

19:56

know, it's, it's a, you got

19:58

to give a lot of props

20:00

to people in red states that

20:02

go against the grain because we

20:04

have to fucking fight for it.

20:06

Because it's everywhere. It's, magga shit

20:09

is everywhere. Like, you can feel

20:11

it. Like, I don't see, in

20:13

Oklahoma City, I don't see over

20:15

Maginus. But you can feel it.

20:17

Yeah, you feel it. Like we

20:19

recently went to Los Angeles, my

20:21

husband and my youngest son and

20:23

I, to tour a school. And

20:25

the minute I got out in

20:27

LAX, I could just feel that

20:29

it wasn't as magga. It's just

20:32

like in the air, it was

20:34

just lighter. It's like, there's just

20:36

not as much magga air here.

20:38

Dare I say even, even, it

20:40

feels a little bit smarter. Yeah,

20:42

just and it's there's more diversity.

20:44

It's not so white. That's one

20:46

thing people don't understand about living

20:48

in a state like Oklahoma. Everyone,

20:50

I mean, there's no foreign languages.

20:52

Like you go on the streets

20:54

in New York and you hear

20:57

50 languages in two blocks. Everybody

20:59

speaks English. More white people. I

21:01

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21:05

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23:50

the smell of donuts can increase

23:52

blood flow to the genitals and

23:54

stimulate an erect phallus. So considering

23:56

the head beaver in charge. You

23:58

guys, she named a group chat

24:01

in our patron, the Hard Rock

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Cock Chat. No, Rock Hard Cock.

24:05

Rock, Hard Cock Chat. I would

24:07

think that you, this could be

24:09

a tool in your toolbox to

24:11

use around men, have a box

24:14

of donuts, and then you can.

24:16

Do I put them in my

24:18

pants, a stymial? So I run

24:20

around with a donut hole between

24:22

my legs. I wasn't thinking about

24:25

that, but apparently you are. Apparently

24:27

the woman who thinks about cock

24:29

all the time is talking about

24:31

cram and donuts up a regime.

24:33

Well I stopped and got donuts

24:35

last weekend and I didn't. Did

24:38

you get a heart on? I

24:40

didn't get a heart on. I

24:42

didn't feel any blood flow to

24:44

the regime or anything. I think

24:46

that's because this is a response

24:49

related to sexual arousal in men.

24:51

Well. My dick's bigger than a

24:53

lot of these maga men, I'll

24:55

just say that. I don't think

24:57

there's any question about that. I

24:59

also think it's a rather interesting

25:02

thing that we could do a

25:04

story arc on that you'd like

25:06

to stick a donut up your

25:08

vision. Moving along, dolphins have bromances

25:10

in which two males pair up

25:13

for as long as 15 years

25:15

and help each other hook up

25:17

with females. These paired males work

25:19

together as wingmen to pursue guard

25:21

and court females during mating season,

25:23

greatly increasing their chances of reproductive

25:26

success. These partnerships are built on

25:28

complex social intelligence, communication, and trust,

25:30

showing that dolphins not only form

25:32

emotional bonds, but also engage in

25:34

sophisticated social strategies similar to human

25:37

relationships. I like it. Dolphins are

25:39

wingmen. I think that's really sweet.

25:41

Yeah, I do too. And that

25:43

they stay friends for 15 years.

25:45

I think that's all good. Yeah,

25:48

and they help each other find

25:50

their mate. They help each other.

25:52

You know, that's missing in a

25:54

lot of men is a lot

25:56

of men don't have any friends.

25:58

That's why they're isolated. You know

26:01

what I mean? Like you go

26:03

around and you, it's no wonder

26:05

all these men are so lonely.

26:07

They don't have any friends. feeling

26:09

this alone in a vacuum. As

26:12

a woman who was born into

26:14

a patriarchal system and everything has

26:16

always been male centered. Corporations, families,

26:18

typically the principals at schools where

26:20

I went were male. And then,

26:22

you know, as a gen exer,

26:25

then go to college, start your

26:27

career, and then you really start

26:29

seeing some changes. in you know

26:31

civil rights movements like gays or

26:33

you know gay marriage nationwide and

26:36

people are starting to talk about

26:38

us reconciling our horrible racist past

26:40

and then all of a sudden

26:42

like the last year or two

26:44

it pops up white men are

26:46

struggling and I'm like Again, we

26:49

have to deal with this shit

26:51

again. I've been dealing with this

26:53

shit my whole, god damn life.

26:55

Why do you always have to

26:57

be the fucking focus of everything?

27:00

Like, that's an inherent difference, maybe,

27:02

I mean, at least from the

27:04

women that I know, like, this,

27:06

I don't need to be emotionally,

27:08

like, greedy all the time. Like,

27:11

oh my God, now I'm hurting,

27:13

like, women are advancing and getting

27:15

jobs. I mean, just. And I

27:17

know that it's an issue, and

27:19

I know we have to deal

27:21

with it, but as a woman,

27:24

I'm just like, can you guys

27:26

just fucking quit being stagehogs all

27:28

the time? I mean, it just

27:30

drives me bananas. Well, it just

27:32

goes to, in my opinion, it

27:35

goes to, these men are used

27:37

to always getting the best picks.

27:39

the best jobs without being the

27:41

best candidate or the most qualified.

27:43

And now there is some competition

27:45

there and instead of looking inward.

27:48

Right, instead of saying, you know,

27:50

what can I do better? How

27:52

can I be a better leader,

27:54

a better student, a better mate?

27:56

They're saying, well, it's women's fault.

27:59

It's just this meltdown and that's

28:01

why I think the insecure masculinity

28:03

is at the core of the...

28:05

like a movement, like it really

28:07

shouldn't be a thing. Like if

28:09

somebody's boss is a female and

28:12

she's very, very excellent at her

28:14

job, if you're having a masculine

28:16

emotional meltdown because of that, the

28:18

problem is you. Right. And it

28:20

just, and now we have to

28:23

do all this time and research

28:25

propping up men again. And it's

28:27

just, it's just exhausting. This desire

28:29

to always be the center of

28:31

attention. that men have from my

28:33

perspective. Okay, last story. Sperm cells

28:36

carry traces of childhood stress. Epigenetic

28:38

study finds. The groundbreaking finding supports

28:40

the idea that trauma and adversity

28:42

experienced in childhood can leave lasting

28:44

biological imprints that extend beyond the

28:47

individual. While the long-term impact on

28:49

offspring is still being studied, the

28:51

research suggests that a father's early

28:53

life experiences may influence the health

28:55

and development of future children. I

28:58

think this makes perfect sense. It

29:00

worries me like for my kids

29:02

because my husband's childhood was just

29:04

you know so traumatic for him

29:06

and Raised by addicts he himself

29:08

was an addict struggled so hard

29:11

to find you know sobriety and

29:13

it makes sense that some of

29:15

this would this trauma would also

29:17

be somewhat you know, genetic or

29:19

pass through genes as well, because

29:22

even if you look at twin

29:24

studies, you know, you'll have a

29:26

couple, that upper middle class couple

29:28

that adopts a child, and the

29:30

child really functioning family, you know,

29:32

for whatever that means, goes to

29:35

school, etc. Her parents are great,

29:37

and the child ends up in

29:39

jail, and then they've gone back

29:41

and studied what the biological parents

29:43

were, and they were both... in

29:46

jail themselves. So there was like

29:48

some sort of genetic component to

29:50

that criminality or that lean towards

29:52

that. And I think this is

29:54

interesting and understanding what makes people

29:56

broken. Yeah, no, I completely agree.

29:59

And it just would make sense

30:01

if you're under a bunch of

30:03

stress, emotional, mental stress. It affects

30:05

you physically. Yeah. So it makes

30:07

sense it would affect it biologically.

30:10

Okay, Kylie, Kiki. Kiki, the magic

30:12

lesbian. Yeah. Do you guys want

30:14

to hear some voice from those?

30:16

Yes. Okay, we're going to kick

30:18

it off with Francis. Hi ladies,

30:21

my name is Francis, I live

30:23

in Connecticut. I just want to

30:25

say thank you so much for

30:27

your amazing podcast. You guys are

30:29

fighting the good fight. I adore

30:31

you. My hat it is people

30:34

that say I'm a hugger. when

30:36

you meet them for the first

30:38

time. That shit makes me crazy.

30:40

I'm not a hugger, okay? I

30:42

don't want to put my body

30:45

up against you when I meet

30:47

you for the first time. I

30:49

can't stand it. It's such a

30:51

ballsy move. Like, I'm a hug.

30:53

You want to put your entire...

30:55

body against me for the first

30:58

time meeting me? It's crazy! I'm

31:00

not opposed to hugging my friends,

31:02

my family members, but a stranger

31:04

that I've met for the very

31:06

first time? Like that's a balsey

31:09

move. I'm a hugger. Let's let's

31:11

hug it out right now. No

31:13

way. I can't stand that shit.

31:15

It makes me crazy. What are

31:17

your thoughts ladies? I adore you.

31:19

I'm a forever listener. Let me

31:22

know. Francis, I couldn't agree with

31:24

you more. This goes to what

31:26

we talked about a couple weeks

31:28

ago, personal space invaders. And I

31:30

think that it's a confessed boundary

31:33

violation from the jump. Yeah. And

31:35

I just, I think sometimes it's,

31:37

you have to, you build to

31:39

a hug. And I just, I'm

31:41

not one of these people that

31:43

just hugs everybody. I just. I

31:46

have to build to a hug.

31:48

I just have to build there.

31:50

The only caveat to that is

31:52

like Angie is my dearest friend.

31:54

And if she has told me

31:57

about one of her friends for,

31:59

you know, weeks or months or a

32:01

year. Oh, my friend Jane Doe, she's so

32:03

great. She tells me these intimate stories about

32:05

her and then I feel an affection, having

32:08

never met her before. The very first time

32:10

I would meet her, I would say, oh

32:12

my gosh, can I give you a hug?

32:14

I already feel like I know you, because

32:16

it's by proxy affection. But I just, people

32:18

say that to me, oh, I'm a hugger

32:21

and I'm just like, oh, you're a freak,

32:23

like, like, like, invade my space and it's

32:25

typically the people that pronounce that their huggers

32:27

that are found boundary violators. Yeah I'm a

32:29

big hugger I'll admit it but I'm not

32:31

a first-time hugger I have to have an

32:34

affection for you right to hug you and

32:36

it was funny because the other day I

32:38

ran into a guy I went to law

32:40

school with and I probably have not seen

32:42

in 25 years, right? And but I have

32:44

a deep affection for him. Like we were

32:46

good friends in law school. I really liked

32:48

him and I see him and he reaches

32:50

out for a handshake and I just go

32:52

in for a big hug because I had

32:54

such an affection for him. But yeah, I

32:56

don't hug on the first meeting. And I

32:58

think when you first meet somebody saying I'm

33:00

a hugger and then squeezing them,

33:03

it's just such a personal space

33:05

invasion. It's just like you don't get

33:07

to say you're a hugger. and

33:09

then just violate my personal space.

33:11

Like being a hugger means you don't

33:13

have respect for boundaries is what

33:15

that means. And because everybody that

33:17

loves other people, it's like a foregone conclusion,

33:20

it's saying like I'm for family. Well,

33:22

of course people like to hug. It's

33:24

a human thing that we do. I

33:26

think I've had it with people having

33:29

to always explain like. normal behavior.

33:31

Of course, if you know, you're

33:33

even an established relationship or an

33:35

established affection, the next step of

33:37

that is you go from high

33:39

in a wave and a non

33:41

to a hug is a greeting.

33:44

It's a foregone conclusion, but I

33:46

know exactly what she's talking about.

33:48

Yeah. Because I've had people do

33:50

that to me and I'm always

33:52

just like, ugh, I don't like

33:54

this. I'm always like, okay, okay.

33:56

It's always somebody who's sweaty that's

33:58

doing it too. I'll tell you

34:01

what I wish we did in

34:03

the United States of America. Among

34:05

many other things, since I was

34:07

homesick for two days, I was

34:09

watching a lot of British TV.

34:11

And I just love the two

34:13

kisses. I just really like that.

34:16

That would be nice. That would

34:18

be nice. It would be really

34:20

nice. It would be nice if

34:22

we had walkable cities. It'd be

34:24

nice if we had a president

34:26

that believed in democracy. Yeah. It

34:28

would be equality even. Yeah. I

34:31

hate to get too far out

34:33

on a limb. All right, Kiki,

34:35

the magic lesbian, he's next. Up

34:37

next we've got Haley. Hi ladies,

34:39

this is Haley longtime listener from

34:41

Louisiana You know how you say

34:44

you've always had it with living

34:46

in Trump's America? Well, I've had

34:48

it living in Mike Johnson's North

34:50

Louisiana Yes, you've heard it. I

34:52

live in Moses Mike Johnson's District

34:54

4 Where the local loved Mexican

34:56

restaurant has vote for Mike Johnson

34:59

for congressman on the lawn and

35:01

I drove by a house the

35:03

other day that had a project

35:05

2025 flag flying in their yard

35:07

flying in their yard I've also

35:09

had it with Mike Johnson trying

35:11

to cut Medicaid when nearly 40%

35:14

of all the people in his

35:16

district rely on Medicaid for their

35:18

health. This is disgusting and it's

35:20

harmful to the health of the

35:22

people in his backyard. I've had

35:24

it. Moses Mike Johnson is the

35:26

classic. hypocritical Christian that lives in

35:29

the Bible Belt. And Oklahoma is

35:31

culture, it's not technically the South,

35:33

but it's culturally the South because

35:35

it's just so religious. And this

35:37

state and the Louisiana and Alabama

35:39

and Mississippi's, all the racist slave

35:41

states, all still cling on to

35:44

their guns and religion and the

35:46

majority. of Christians in this part

35:48

of the country. I'm not talking

35:50

about you Methodist and normal people

35:52

on the coast that go to

35:54

a church that promotes equality and

35:56

social justice. I'm talking about in

35:59

the Bible Belt. there is a

36:01

cancer in these Christians, and they

36:03

are the biggest hypocrites on the

36:05

planet. There is this dissonance in

36:07

which they engage every day. Wherein,

36:09

they worship money, while at the

36:11

same time, their Lord and personal

36:14

Savior won Jesus Christ, or as

36:16

I like to call him, Jesus

36:18

H. Christ, he spoke against the

36:20

accumulation of wealth, spoke forestanding with

36:22

the marginalized. And if Moses Mike

36:24

Johnson and all of these hypocritical

36:27

white. evangelical Christians in the South

36:29

truly were followers of Christ. They

36:31

would be standing up for trans

36:33

people, for black people, for they

36:35

would be demanding the return of

36:37

Abrego Garcia. They would be at

36:39

the border, making sure people were

36:42

treated humanely, but instead they sighed

36:44

with billionaires and dehumanizing in the

36:46

demoralization of other human beings. Christian,

36:48

Southern Christian, Republicans are the grossest

36:50

people in the United States of

36:52

America, and it is the breeding

36:54

grounds where MAGA was able to

36:57

take hold. No, I completely, completely

36:59

agree. And I've often thought about

37:01

Mike Johnson's district. Like, I know

37:03

40% on Medicaid, that does not

37:05

surprise me. How many of them,

37:07

because of what he's doing, will

37:09

not vote for him next time?

37:12

You know, I just wonder, will

37:14

it ever penetrate that far? Or

37:16

will he go in and say,

37:18

oh, well, that's Biden's politics that

37:20

cut Medicare? And they're just like,

37:22

oh, okay, y'all. This is why

37:24

they attack education, you know, like

37:27

in Oklahoma, you would think with

37:29

our stats as staggering as they

37:31

are. like a bottom five state

37:33

consistently every category year after year

37:35

after year that the people in

37:37

this state would say enough with

37:39

these Republican super majorities our schools

37:42

suck our health care sucks our

37:44

streets suck our streets suck our

37:46

you know we always make the

37:48

news for the most embarrassing reasons

37:50

we're a bottom 10 state but

37:52

and time again. Their hate for

37:55

others is where they go to

37:57

vote and report. Christian Republican politicians

37:59

offer them the biggest menu of

38:01

hate in which they can vote

38:03

from and that also offer them

38:05

what they're comfortable with with their

38:07

mega churches is being grifted right

38:10

now let's support the rich preacher

38:12

while you're struggling and I've told

38:14

this story before but I'll just

38:16

never forget it I was in

38:18

like seventh grade and I went

38:20

to church against my mother's permission

38:22

but that's neither here nor there

38:25

and my friend's mom Shonda was

38:27

her name her mom was a

38:29

UPS worker and she was a

38:31

really, she really worked hard, like

38:33

middle of the night hours to

38:35

try to pay for Shonda's like

38:37

cheerleading uniforms and things that the

38:40

school didn't cover. And we go

38:42

to this church where the preacher

38:44

drives a Rolls Royce and the

38:46

wife wears a full white meat

38:48

coat and she gave all the

38:50

cash she had to them and

38:52

then we had to count out

38:55

literally pennies, nickels and dimes at

38:57

7-11 to put gas in her

38:59

car. And so How do you

39:01

get people like that to vote

39:03

for their own interest? I don't

39:05

know, but I will never forget

39:07

being a young teenage girl seeing

39:10

that and saying, oh my God,

39:12

my mother's 100% right about these

39:14

religious people. Because I just, I

39:16

mean, I saw it, I had

39:18

no indoctrination, but it was so

39:20

gross that she valued giving money

39:23

to that clear con man. Right.

39:25

over, you know, supporting her, trying

39:27

to support her own family. It

39:29

was just, it was, it was,

39:31

it was, I'll never forget it.

39:33

It just left such an impression

39:35

upon me. It's really sad. Because

39:38

you spotted it at seventh grade,

39:40

like he's the con man up

39:42

there with the Mink Code and

39:44

the Rolls Royce. But when you're

39:46

indoctrinated, you just think, oh, that's

39:48

how it is. Yeah. You know,

39:50

Trump administration is now talking about

39:53

removing tax exemptions for universities. Well,

39:55

when the Democrats getting power, they

39:57

need to quit fucking around with

39:59

this and tax the churches. Tax

40:01

like there's some school called Liberty

40:03

University, a complete rat trap bullshit.

40:05

That was the whole Jerry Fallwell.

40:08

Oral Roberts has a university, oral

40:10

Roberts? Are you kidding me? This

40:12

man is a con man. Locked

40:14

himself up and said if y'all

40:16

don't give me two million dollars,

40:18

I'm going to... burn in hell.

40:20

Like he's gonna die. And people

40:23

sent the money. My grandmother, my

40:25

mom, no wonder she was an

40:27

atheist, my crazy ass grandmother, we

40:29

called her mama worth, meaner than

40:31

a rattlesnake, live longer than all

40:33

of my other grandparents. She sent

40:35

money to oral robbers. And you

40:38

know, like, no wonder my mom

40:40

was like, religion's fucked up, you

40:42

know? So that's the only way

40:44

I think that. No, it has

40:46

to be done. It has to

40:48

be sort of governmental governmental governmental.

40:50

push to say these are not

40:53

their breeding grounds for this craziness.

40:55

Okay, one thing, Haley, since you

40:57

are in Mike Johnson's district, I

40:59

want you to go undercover and

41:01

just put your feelers. I just

41:03

I find it impossible to believe

41:06

and this could just be my

41:08

own cynicism, my own world experience.

41:10

Getting away making my mind run

41:12

crazy, but I've got to think

41:14

there are rumors of Mike Johnson

41:16

being gay and I have I

41:18

know nothing about his wife, but

41:21

I've read enough to know I

41:23

think she's a lesbian. So Haley,

41:25

I want you to just kind

41:27

of put your feelers out and

41:29

see if you can find that.

41:31

I don't know if she's a

41:33

lesbian or not, and I don't

41:36

know if he's gay or not,

41:38

but I do know that they

41:40

spend more time thinking about gay

41:42

sex than most gay men, I

41:44

know. I've never seen a dedication

41:46

by two alleged heterosexuals, alleged straits,

41:48

that sit around consumed with gay

41:51

sex. I personally... Never think about

41:53

gay sex. No. Because I'm not

41:55

gay. So therefore I'm not threatened

41:57

by it. It's your business, your

41:59

life. Swing for the fences, get

42:01

on grinder and grind away. Have

42:03

at it. I don't give a

42:06

shit, but what I give a

42:08

shit about are hypocrites like Moses

42:10

Mike Johnson and his hateful little

42:12

toot-ass wife that have these pray-the-gay

42:14

away torture camps. And he has

42:16

these weird things where he's... I

42:18

do know this, I have heard

42:21

rumors about the guy, you know,

42:23

Moses Mike lives with this evangelical

42:25

preacher, who apparently, rumor wise, is

42:27

a closet case. No surprise there.

42:29

This multi-millionaire from Nashville owns the

42:31

condominium in DC where they live.

42:34

And here's the thing. Why does

42:36

this man have a roommate? Okay,

42:38

that's weird. Right. But then this

42:40

guy, the car dealer, that funds

42:42

this, apparently, he's been married like

42:44

four times, the rumor is he

42:46

made his ex-wife, because they had

42:49

a really nasty divorce, watch gay

42:51

porn with him. So a lot

42:53

of the magga men, their insecurity

42:55

regarding their masculinity, is number one,

42:57

I think that they themselves are

42:59

turned on by gay sex. who

43:01

cares? Don't be a dick about

43:04

it. We're not going to be

43:06

dicks to you about it. We're

43:08

going to be a dick about

43:10

your hypocrisy. And number two, then

43:12

they're very jealous that gay men

43:14

are so sexually liberated. You know,

43:16

we've had, you know, that that

43:19

cyclist, that peloton guy that we

43:21

have on. Cody Ricksby, he's great.

43:23

Yeah. And he was talking about

43:25

his sex life and how great

43:27

it was and how liberated he

43:29

was sexually repressed men that have

43:31

to, you know, do all this

43:34

Bible study and all this just

43:36

complete waste of time bullshit worried

43:38

about gay sex. I think they're

43:40

just real jealous that they're not

43:42

that liberated to have that kind

43:44

of shame free sex. And I

43:46

think they're kind of turned on

43:49

by rock hard cocks, which is

43:51

something you have in common with

43:53

them. Absolutely. I say Mike. Go

43:55

for it. Mike's wife, go for

43:57

it. Do whatever makes you happy.

43:59

Don't be addict to other people.

44:02

Don't you remember that couple? She

44:04

was a, we covered, Bridget. Bridget

44:06

from the moms of Liberty. The

44:08

moms of Liberty, and Bridget's Bigot's

44:10

Big Maga, you know, she's in

44:12

there at the school boards, going

44:14

crazy, banning books, and her husband's

44:17

big Trump Thumper, you know, has

44:19

probably the homoer erotic photoshoppeded images

44:21

of Trump, on his death. engage

44:23

in menager tours. Right. Which my

44:25

thing is, I don't give a

44:27

shit if you want to menage,

44:29

menage away. But apparently the husband

44:32

was like sexually abused. and didn't

44:34

follow the rules of consent with

44:36

their third party, and they're the

44:38

ones who run around claiming all

44:40

of this sexual purity and trying

44:42

to regulate people's sex lives. And

44:44

it's always the people like that.

44:47

Most is always. There's some fucked,

44:49

something fucked up sexually going on

44:51

with him, something going on with

44:53

J.D. Vance for sure with Trump.

44:55

I mean, there's no question. There's

44:57

some sort of sexual... shortcoming there.

44:59

Right. In adequacy out the gazoo.

45:02

I mean, going back to the

45:04

gold in the Oval Office, if

45:06

that doesn't scream in insecurity, I

45:08

don't know what. I tell you

45:10

who else is a red flag

45:12

to me, who is on my

45:14

watch list. Josh Holly. 100 percent.

45:17

I just get a gay DAR

45:19

paying like nobody's business. And then

45:21

he was with that kicker. Yeah,

45:23

that hair. That hates women. Harrison

45:25

bugger. Yeah, Harrison, I hate something,

45:27

which is an appropriate name. Who

45:30

Serena Wilson just filth him, dirty

45:32

to him out. They basically get

45:34

together and they've taken couples photos.

45:36

They're like engagement photos. And I

45:38

just, like the sexual tension in

45:40

the photograph, like it's hard to

45:42

capture that, like I would say

45:45

the last time I saw that

45:47

was when Brad Pitt left Jennifer

45:49

Aniston and he first started fucking

45:51

Angelina, Joe Lee and they were

45:53

like on the cover of Vanity

45:55

Fair and it was like, oh

45:57

my God, the sexual tension, like

46:00

those people are. fucking like you

46:02

could just popped off the page.

46:04

That's what I thought about this

46:06

kicker and Josh Holly. I thought,

46:08

I mean, there's a lot of

46:10

sexual tension there. Too bad. There's

46:12

such fucking hypocritical assholes that don't

46:15

have the courage. Like all of

46:17

these other brave, amazing Americans and

46:19

LGBTQ people all around the world

46:21

because it takes a lot of

46:23

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46:25

who you are and accept the

46:27

judgment from the hypocritical assholes like

46:30

these people. I completely agree. Okay.

46:32

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46:34

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46:36

that a Drake song? That's right.

46:38

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49:29

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49:31

Menopause and I've fucking had it with

49:34

everything at this point. However, my big,

49:36

I've had it right now is these

49:38

Facebook community pages that you know you

49:41

can go on, somebody can say, hey,

49:43

I'm looking for a doctor, can anybody

49:45

recommend one, blah, blah, blah. What I've

49:48

absolutely had it with though is, for

49:50

example. My neighbors, I'm looking for a

49:52

reputable breeder for a mini-doodle. And you've

49:55

got 50 God-dam people coming on there

49:57

saying, it's really not right to get

49:59

a breeder. You really should go to

50:02

the shelters. A mini-doodle is just a

50:04

mutt. You should just go to the

50:06

shelter and get a mutt anyways. Bitch,

50:09

they weren't asking for more stance on

50:11

a breed. Oh, hey neighbors, looking for

50:13

a chiropractor in the area, any recommendations.

50:16

Chiropractors are whack-a-dew. You can do that

50:18

at home by throwing tea leaves on

50:20

your joints. It is just honestly so

50:23

fucking annoying how everybody has an opinion

50:25

and everybody thinks that their opinion is

50:27

going to somehow miraculously sway somebody. Oh

50:30

wow, random person on Facebook, didn't think

50:32

about it that way. You've totally changed

50:34

my mind and changed my life. I've

50:37

fucking had it. She is so spot

50:39

on. It's so true. It's so true.

50:41

The other day I saw that like

50:44

on our comment section, because we start

50:46

off our show with petty grievances, and

50:48

typically our Tuesday, Thursday episodes of I've

50:51

had it are lighter by nature, you

50:53

know, comedic relief, although we do talk

50:55

about serious things because we're in serious

50:58

times. And then our IHIP news, we

51:00

really fucking hammer it, right? So somebody

51:02

writes. must be nice to be upset

51:05

about such petty things when the world's

51:07

on fire. Somebody else, something about like,

51:09

oh, you're worried about your parking spot

51:12

and there's people starving in the world.

51:14

And it's just like, why does everybody

51:16

always have to go into the comment

51:19

section and just try to like... one

51:21

up catastrophes. It's like I want to

51:23

make a bigger catastrophe of this. This

51:26

is the worst part about social media.

51:28

Yeah, the keyboard courage and I'm kind

51:30

of guilty of this like Jennifer has

51:33

to talk me on. the ledge sometimes,

51:35

that I don't understand, like, people that

51:37

vote for Trump, like, I can't wrap

51:40

my head around it, because I used

51:42

to be in the evangelical Republican world.

51:44

And so I think when you be,

51:47

you know, I look back and I

51:49

think, how could I ever be like

51:51

that? And it just makes no sense,

51:54

blah, blah, blah, blah. So I'm, it's

51:56

so hard for me to wrap my

51:58

head around it. And Jennifer's always like,

52:01

you're a dip shit. You used to

52:03

do this, like you're never going to

52:05

change anybody's mind. And I'm just like,

52:08

oh yeah, I mean, I think people

52:10

fundamentally real forget that nobody changes their

52:12

mind unless they want to, unless they

52:15

do the work. You can't just change

52:17

somebody's mind. Like, hey, you know, Trump's

52:19

a convicted felon. That should give you

52:22

pause. Like, that's not going to change

52:24

anybody's mind. It's just not. Right. Yeah,

52:26

no Pumps is right. The other day

52:29

we're doing like an I hip news

52:31

and I play. It's these two blonde

52:33

women that remind me of a lot

52:36

of the women that she like sent

52:38

her kids to school with. They look

52:40

just like that group of moms from

52:43

crossings. And they're talking about like the

52:45

sun and the planets and God controlling

52:47

them. And Pumps is like, they're joking,

52:50

right? Nobody would believe that. And in

52:52

my mind, I'm like... Is she gasiting

52:54

me? Because you like literally have said

52:57

to me multiple times, looked me straight

52:59

in the face and said, did you

53:01

know people used to live to be

53:04

900 years old? I'd be like, fucking,

53:06

that never happened. Nobody lived to be

53:08

900. That is a lie. But maybe

53:11

there's something to it. Like once you

53:13

find, it's like a recovering smoker. Yeah,

53:15

you hate smoke worse than anything. I'm,

53:18

yeah. That's what you are about, like,

53:20

intellectual enlightenment. Yes. You're harder on those

53:22

because you used to be in it.

53:25

And now that your eyes are open,

53:27

you're like a recovering smoker. Maybe that's

53:29

the parallel. Yeah. No, I feel like

53:32

you're faking with me, though, or gas.

53:34

No, I know. I'm like, what the

53:36

fuck? You know, I had to explain

53:39

to you about modern science. and filtered

53:41

water that people didn't live long. And

53:43

I remember you said, well, maybe there

53:46

was no disease in the Garden of

53:48

Eden. And I was like, there was

53:50

no Garden of Eden. Angie, I remember

53:53

exactly where we were. We were at

53:55

Mazio's Pizza on North Penn in Oklahoma

53:57

City, and the conversation went on for

54:00

like 20 or 30 minutes. And I

54:02

remember I got in the car. And

54:04

I started in my car, and I

54:07

thought, how can somebody go to law

54:09

school and pass the bar exam? and

54:11

think that people used to live to

54:14

be 900 years old and you believed

54:16

in the arc story literally. 100%? Yeah.

54:18

It never occurred to me not to.

54:21

I mean it just you when you're

54:23

indoctrinated like that you don't ever take

54:25

the next step because you it requires

54:28

blind obedience. That's right. And that's what

54:30

Trump is using to manipulate these people.

54:32

You have to believe in him and

54:35

your stock markets. poof, your Medicare is

54:37

going away, your Social Security is going

54:39

away, but you have to have blind

54:42

obedience that he alone can fix it.

54:44

And that's why your former people that

54:46

you had in your life fall prey

54:49

to this so easily because blind obedience

54:51

is their default setting. Right. Yeah, totally.

54:53

But you're not on Pems's watch anymore,

54:56

you guys. She's the reformed smoker of

54:58

enlightened thinking. critical thinking not even. You

55:00

are though it's really amazing. It's but

55:03

I mean it just takes so it

55:05

takes more effort than people think I

55:07

guess and it takes more effort than

55:10

I give people credit for. But I

55:12

think it's really cool because kind of

55:14

once you I was I remember when

55:17

you called told me you're like I

55:19

think all this stuff is bill shit

55:21

I remember how shocked I was I

55:24

was so shocked and then you've just

55:26

kind of gone on and on and

55:28

now you're like more hardcore about a

55:31

lot of this shit than I am.

55:33

Yeah. Go get a beaver. Burn it

55:35

to the ground. Burn it to the

55:38

ground. That's what beavers do. But see,

55:40

your story is so good because you

55:42

used to be a part of the

55:45

problem and be the judgeer and you

55:47

found enlightenment and let me just ask.

55:49

you this, are you happier? 100% yes.

55:52

Although I don't, okay, but to be

55:54

fair, when you are in a situation

55:56

where you think you're better than everybody

55:59

else and that other people's problems couldn't

56:01

possibly affect you because you're so special,

56:03

I don't think that until something happens

56:06

to where you realize, oh I'm really

56:08

not special, oh bad things can happen

56:10

to me. You you lack such an

56:13

awareness. I don't think you know that

56:15

you're not having empathy right you just

56:17

the lack of empathy you don't realize

56:20

you don't have it But let me

56:22

ask you this when you found out

56:24

and I remember because I was your

56:27

Safe Haven That everything you believed about

56:29

your marriage and life and all you

56:31

had to do was pray was all

56:34

bullshit and the betrayal in which your

56:36

husband did and that moment of collapse,

56:38

or it should be terrible for anybody

56:41

regardless of your faith. Do you think

56:43

that that helped that hit you harder

56:45

because it shook your very foundation? I

56:48

absolutely do I just I remember you

56:50

sitting on my porch and we were

56:52

smoking and it was it was it

56:55

was there were two layers to it

56:57

there was number one I can't believe

56:59

my husband did this right my life

57:02

is the fraud and number two this

57:04

wasn't supposed to happen like you to

57:06

me you had a bargain with your

57:09

worldview right were indoctrinated right and it

57:11

was I'm gonna be a good girl

57:13

I'm going to be a good girl

57:16

I'm going to do everything my mother

57:18

tells me and I'm going to pray

57:20

I'm only going to do you know

57:23

these things on this approved list and

57:25

I remember you would vacillate from this

57:27

isn't supposed to happen to me to

57:30

my children's lives are supposed to be

57:32

perfect and I remember I would look

57:34

at you and I go why do

57:37

you think your kids lives are supposed

57:39

to be perfect but that's just what

57:41

I mean I know you said believed

57:44

it I remember and I remember it

57:46

was like a It was, I remember

57:48

when Joshua Montgomery was like, how's Pumps

57:51

doing? And I would say, there's this

57:53

extra layer, everything she's dealing with is

57:55

devastating, but there's an extra layer to

57:58

it that the grand bargain that she

58:00

made with life and that was pitched

58:02

to her was a scam. She got

58:05

scanned, is like, she's reeling from the

58:07

fact that she kept up her into

58:09

the bargain and the other part of

58:12

the bargain was. bullshit. Yeah, exactly. That's

58:14

perfectly bad. And what was so great

58:16

about a lot of it though, I

58:19

have to give you so much credit,

58:21

is you would be freaking out, you'd

58:23

cry, this is supposed to happen to

58:26

me, you know, white woman temperate. And

58:28

then I would kind of be like

58:30

pumps, but no childhood is perfect. Because

58:33

then what's adulthood supposed to be like,

58:35

just a round of disappointment, and then

58:37

you'd kind of start chuckling, and you

58:40

were... your intelligence and self-deprecating nature I

58:42

think was really therapeutic through that whole

58:44

thing and probably led you to the

58:47

ultimate enlightenment of being deprogrammed from the

58:49

cult of evangelical Christianity. Yeah well we

58:51

had to laugh we did because if

58:54

you weren't laughing in our world in

58:56

those days you were fecking in the

58:58

fetal position crying which is a perfect

59:01

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59:03

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