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Hello again, friends! And

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you are our friends. I may not sound

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great today, but welcome back to another edition

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of Jim Cornette's drive-through right here on another

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day. It is indeed a day and you

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are with us. I'm your host, the great

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Brian Last. We're going to be talking dynamite

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at some point, some of the news

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and headlines happening in wrestling and your

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questions with this man,

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the leader of the cult of Cornette. Mr.

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Jim Cornette. Thank

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you, Liberace. That was a

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wonderful introduction there. The way

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you tickle those ivories. Oh,

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Jimmy, ow. Well,

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that's my Liberace impression.

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It's always better to have two

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lips on your organ than roses on

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your piano. But

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nevertheless, speaking of

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dicks, let's just jump

0:57

right into acknowledging the results,

1:00

the news of the particular

1:03

week here, because on the last program

1:05

that you and I did, the experience,

1:07

Brian, you know,

1:09

we said we're doing this before the election. We don't have

1:12

any results yet because it ain't happened yet.

1:15

Well, now we're doing this one after the

1:17

election and we do

1:19

have the results and I've got to say something

1:21

here in public to you, Brian Last, and to

1:23

the listeners out there

1:25

that I have never said before. Do

1:28

we need a drum roll on this or hold on?

1:31

Oh, hold on. Oh, I could do that. No,

1:33

no, don't you put it in the drum rolls. Oh, wait

1:36

a minute. Now, hold on. Oh,

1:38

come on. What did I do? Put

1:43

your drumstick away. I beat you to it. Son of

1:45

a bit. Oh, it's over on the desk over there.

1:47

Yeah. This

1:50

is what I've never said before. Mama Cornette

1:52

was wrong. Because

1:58

I did say on the last program

2:01

that whenever something would happen when I was a

2:03

kid that was apropos

2:05

of this statement and that could be

2:07

a variety of things, she

2:10

would say Jimmy just always remember

2:12

there's more good people and there

2:14

are bad people. Well

2:18

Mama Cornette was wrong and now we

2:21

we actually have statistical

2:23

proof because

2:25

not only did

2:28

the citizens of the United States

2:30

of America not

2:32

recognize that many people including

2:37

many people inside this country

2:40

have thought that they were stupid,

2:43

stupid and

2:46

not only did they the

2:48

citizens of America band together to say

2:50

well that's that's just your

2:52

opinion but they decided to put it

2:54

down on paper Brian. They

2:57

decided that we basically we took a big

2:59

sheet of paper we drew a line down

3:01

the middle of it and

3:05

we counted up we said okay now how

3:07

many people think

3:10

that we ought to be run

3:12

by a sane

3:16

rationally speaking experienced human

3:18

being okay telling

3:20

them and how

3:23

many people are on the side

3:25

of the stupid asshole and

3:28

a bunch of hands went up over me me me me

3:30

me stupid asshole

3:32

wins not

3:35

only were they not satisfied with

3:38

people around the world thinking that

3:40

we're batshit fucking nuts because

3:43

of this guy but

3:46

they decided to document it

3:48

they divine themselves we

3:51

have stooged on ourselves as a country

3:59

but As they

4:01

say, people get

4:04

the government they deserve. And

4:07

I think I can say without fear

4:10

of contradiction, we are all

4:12

about to get what we deserve. However,

4:16

I would like on behalf

4:18

of all of

4:20

the citizens of the United States of America

4:22

to apologize to the rest of the fucking

4:25

world. Because

4:28

I know a lot of you may be laughing right

4:31

now going, Oh,

4:33

the Yanks or the Americans or whatever

4:35

the colloquialism is over there for wherever

4:38

you are for us. They've

4:41

elected the fucking phone again. But

4:47

it is funny. If

4:49

you're not here, it's hilarious.

4:51

Except the

4:54

president of the United States of America

4:57

can fuck up the world. So

5:01

I would like to apologize on behalf of

5:03

all the Americans for putting

5:06

you in this fucking position too. Because,

5:12

you know, we kind

5:15

of set up the world order

5:17

when we saved democracy

5:19

80 years ago and now we're going to

5:21

come and take it back. But

5:24

nevertheless, otherwise

5:28

in apologizing to the citizens around the

5:30

world, Brian, yeah, we pretty much, we're

5:32

going to get what's coming to us.

5:36

And I mean, you know, we're going

5:38

to have to sit back and just

5:42

observe as if

5:44

the mind virus holds through

5:48

famine, pestilence, plagues of locusts. What is

5:50

it going to take with this guy

5:52

for people to see through

5:54

him? But

5:57

I saw

5:59

some. somebody on the news the

6:02

other night say, Trump didn't change

6:04

us. He revealed us. So

6:07

I guess technically mama Cornette was wrong

6:09

all along. Even

6:11

though she hasn't said that statement, obviously in

6:13

quite a number of years, they

6:17

were here all along and

6:20

there was just not anybody

6:22

that was low enough

6:25

to take advantage of them all. Yeah. Every

6:30

gullible group and every

6:32

fringe fanatic

6:35

all bundled together makes more than half

6:38

of this country. So

6:43

the question is, yeah, I'll leave

6:46

you with one more thing. One more

6:48

thing. This

6:50

guy's an 80 year old fat fuck

6:52

that's eaten McDonald's for 40 years. Even

6:55

I got off of it. So

6:58

when nature takes its

7:01

course, if

7:04

it's not, if it's within the next four

7:06

years, we end up with JD Vance as

7:09

the leader of the free world. Who the

7:11

fuck is this creep? And

7:14

what the fuck is his problem? Just

7:16

he appears like the,

7:19

I joke about the invasion of the

7:21

potty, potty snatchers invasion of the potty

7:23

snatchers. You're joking about that all the

7:26

time with your buddy Vince McMahon. I

7:28

understand. Yes. Yes. We often do in,

7:30

in, in stalls next to each other,

7:32

the invasion of the body snatchers and

7:35

the pod people. And they're, they look

7:37

like your family member, but they're not

7:39

really, this guy

7:41

skipped the part where even looks like

7:44

he's a real human being. So,

7:48

you know, and surrounded by

7:50

idiots would

7:52

be this guy as a leader of the free

7:55

world behind the most powerful fucking nation on

7:58

earth who, and that's the

8:00

citizenry of have just

8:02

abdicated their responsibility as

8:04

the most powerful nation

8:06

on earth by allowing

8:08

two of these Cretans

8:10

to be in charge of it. What

8:14

can possibly go wrong? And,

8:19

and, and I'll tell you another thing while

8:22

they're still free speaking outlets

8:24

like ours that can't be censored, I'm

8:27

going to tell you some more shit

8:29

about these two motherfuckers. This

8:31

one, no good. And

8:35

another thing about this son of a, but

8:39

they're never going to be able to shut us up and

8:41

telling you that all

8:48

right. Another banner episode of the drive-through so far.

8:52

We had a election talk as well as

8:54

a springery, I guess. I've

8:56

got some breaking news for you. For

8:59

me. You no good, sorry,

9:01

gum bumping sack of snake

9:03

feces. Good looking, wonderful, honest,

9:06

noble person. Yes. With integrity

9:08

and humble also. That's

9:11

right. You can't, you can't deny that, can

9:13

you? Last 2028. Well,

9:17

I've got news that you

9:19

always bringing in breaking news. Well, I've

9:21

got news. Did

9:24

you hear about the mysterious black

9:26

balls? I

9:28

can already tell you no, but before you even go any

9:30

further, I can tell you no. You

9:33

haven't heard about the mysterious black

9:35

balls that washed

9:37

up on the beach in Sydney, Sydney,

9:39

Australia, down there or down under. Where

9:41

are you getting this news from? No,

9:44

I have not heard of this. No,

9:46

this is all over the goddamn news

9:48

sources. Thursday, November seven. It

9:50

was at two 49 am. I'm just hearing

9:52

about it now, but basically

9:55

the mystery has been solved. There were

9:57

black balls. There were

9:59

washing. up on, apparently they take

10:02

pride in their iconic beaches

10:04

down there in Sydney, Australia. And they

10:06

were, these balls were washing

10:08

up thousands of them. And

10:11

the beach people were closing the beach,

10:13

seven beaches. The beach people. Well,

10:16

the beach authorities, you

10:18

know, you got to run for office

10:20

there too. Every two years you got

10:22

to run for office to be the

10:25

beach authority, the beach board. You've

10:27

heard of beach boards. I grew up on a

10:29

beach. I resent being called beach people. Well,

10:32

the people. You're a beachist. Who

10:34

are the beachists? The beach

10:37

administration, the people in charge

10:39

of the beach had to close the beaches. It's

10:41

what I'm saying to you. Seven

10:44

of them because lifeguards spotted

10:46

thousands of these things washing

10:49

in and they started trying to clean them up.

10:53

And they know. I thought you said

10:55

there were two. What I didn't say

10:57

there were two. I thought you started

10:59

this by saying there were two black balls. No,

11:01

the mysterious black balls. Have

11:05

you heard about the mysterious black

11:07

balls? Anyway,

11:12

they didn't know what they

11:14

were, but they, here was

11:16

a quote, lead investigator associate

11:18

professor, John Beaves of the

11:21

university of new South Wales,

11:23

UNSW for the alumni, said

11:27

they smell absolutely disgusting. They

11:29

smell worse than anything you've

11:31

ever smelt. And

11:36

when the, all the

11:38

new South Wales environment protection

11:40

authority or the N S

11:42

W EPA first warned

11:47

Sydney residents to avoid swimming

11:49

or touching the big mysterious

11:51

black balls on

11:53

October 17, after they were

11:55

spotted at seven beaches at that stage, their

11:57

contents were a mystery. And

12:00

local officials ordered a series of test to find

12:02

out what they were where they came from. Well

12:06

what they now they're they're

12:08

called fatbergs. Bright

12:10

have you ever heard that term I've heard

12:13

nothing about any of this they

12:15

were many fatbergs apparently.

12:19

Fatten oils and substances which will

12:22

talk about a second conglomerate together

12:24

so like the conglomeration you've heard

12:27

of that. In

12:29

the ocean and they. In

12:31

a float around right. Well

12:34

this was unusual and it's a

12:36

never seen this phenomenon and not

12:39

before. But the

12:41

fatbergs were made up of

12:43

among others among hundreds of

12:46

other vile and befuddling substances.

12:49

Here's some things it was in their

12:51

human feces. Methamphetamine.

12:56

Human hair fatty

12:58

acids and food waste. Initial

13:05

testing suggested that they were.

13:08

Made from unrefined oil potentially

13:10

from an oil spill but

13:13

further testing indicated a different

13:15

more disgusting composition. So

13:18

they're congealed masses of fats

13:20

oils and greasy molecules. That

13:24

can accumulate in sewage noting that

13:27

their presence highlights the issue

13:29

of pollution among sydney's coastline.

13:35

I wouldn't want to be swimming with them

13:37

the professor said but what. I

13:40

get okay grease and oil

13:42

and but in human hair

13:44

but methamphetamine. Yeah

13:48

the blobs contained everything from fecal matter

13:50

to medication and recreational drugs where the

13:52

balls came from still remain a mystery

13:54

however. And

13:56

Brian I'll open the floor to discussion on this

13:59

or anything else. Oh great. In

14:01

2021, a massive 330

14:05

ton Fatberg wreaked

14:07

havoc in Birmingham, UK when

14:09

it clogged a city sewer

14:12

for weeks. What

14:15

the fuck? Actually, I

14:17

believe this is some sort of advanced promotion

14:20

for AEW coming to Australia. And

14:23

those aren't black balls. Those represent the

14:25

black holes of charisma that are some

14:27

of the wrestlers on the roster. No,

14:30

they got these promotional beach

14:33

balls made, but they were

14:35

fucking cheap material and they

14:37

fucking, they melted in

14:39

the ocean and washed up on shore. So

14:41

that would be good promotion. Everyone

14:44

in town's been wondering what are the mysterious

14:46

orbs that have been arriving on the beach?

14:49

Yeah. It's a failed

14:51

project from the son of a billionaire.

14:53

Let's get more about them. It was

14:55

supposed to be little mini holograms. The

14:59

neighbor's supposed to wash up on shore. The

15:02

crap went open. It contains an unsold copy of

15:04

the video game. And

15:08

all that, that thing pretty much self-destructed like

15:10

a tape on Mission Impossible. I google it,

15:12

kids. Yeah, that thing sunk on its own

15:14

now that I think about it. All

15:19

right. Before

15:21

we engage in any more wrestling frivolity, I

15:23

just wanted to make sure that story got

15:26

wider press. You never know what something's floating

15:28

up on shore. But

15:31

a lot of people heard about this the past couple

15:33

of days with all the other things going on. This

15:38

was not good news for

15:41

wrestling fans and all

15:43

of us who have been friends of

15:45

Dutch Mantels forever and eons. Dutch's

15:49

daughter, Amanda, has set

15:51

up a GoFundMe for

15:54

not only Dutch, but his wife, Kathy. And I

15:56

don't know if people know or not, but Dutch

15:58

and Kathy have been married. married for

16:01

over 50 years. It may

16:03

be the longest marriage.

16:06

I don't know. It has to be currently

16:08

in wrestling, right? I mean, God

16:10

damn it, Les. Is

16:13

Bill Mercer still married? Bob Caudill. I'm

16:16

sure, yes, he's definitely still married. Who

16:18

knows? But Dutchess

16:21

and his wife, Kathy, both had

16:23

bad health issues over the last

16:25

year. And we

16:28

think back a few months ago, when

16:31

Kevin Sullivan's family

16:33

had put up a GoFundMe for him, one of the

16:36

things that he had been having

16:38

trouble with was sepsis. Dutchess had sepsis been

16:40

in and out of the hospital for that

16:42

twice. But

16:45

for all of that, it

16:47

sounds like Kathy's health

16:50

issues have been worse, and she's

16:52

been hospitalized. And I'm

16:54

not going to read their chart

16:56

on the air here, but there is

16:58

a GoFundMe for, and Brian

17:01

always asks you because you know everything about

17:03

the internet. But if they just type

17:06

in dirty Dutchmantel, they're

17:09

going to get it. There's no Dutch impersonators

17:11

yet on GoFundMe. Well, I'm pretty sure if

17:13

you just go to Google and search for

17:15

GoFundMe Dutchmantel or go to GoFundMe and search

17:17

for Dutchmantel, dirty, not even needed. Well,

17:20

there you go. Well, it is in the title. Play

17:23

help dirty Dutchmantel because he's dirty Dutch

17:26

to all

17:28

of us. To the clean folk. To the clean

17:30

folk. But anyway,

17:32

that's how the kids Google these things.

17:36

But anyway, if you've liked Dutch's work

17:39

over the years, whether it be you're

17:41

a fan of Memphis wrestling or you're

17:44

a fan of, I mean, he's been

17:46

everywhere at one point or another. But

17:48

I'm obviously a fan

17:50

of his work in Memphis, but also he

17:53

worked with me in Smokey Mountain. When TNA

17:55

actually had good moments, Dutchmantel was behind most

17:57

of them. There you go.

17:59

I worked with him. only in

18:01

WCW and later in WWF, but

18:03

then he's the one who

18:05

kept me from committing

18:08

aggravated mayhem a number of times in

18:10

TNA for all those years. So, uh,

18:14

and one of the funniest guys in the

18:16

business. But anyway, I

18:18

just wanted to bring that up because if

18:21

you go there now, they've exceeded

18:23

the original goal. But that's

18:26

the thing is Amanda has basically

18:29

been taking care of both of them

18:32

to the, obviously the detriment of her

18:34

having time to actually work or do

18:36

anything else. So, and, and a lot

18:38

of their, I don't know, I've fortunately

18:40

never been in this position, so I'm

18:42

not sure how it works. But for

18:45

those of you around the world, we have insurance

18:47

here in the United States. If

18:50

we pay for it, or if we're old enough

18:52

to have Medicare, but they've still got caps

18:55

on hospitalizations, Brian,

18:58

you know, uh,

19:01

if you know how that fucking works, you

19:03

could chime in, but I'd, but point is

19:06

you're still screwed over here. If you're old

19:08

in the hospital one

19:10

way or another, generally. So

19:13

that's to try to assist with

19:15

all of those things. All

19:18

right. He was the first guy you

19:20

managed and you did the thing where you printed up the

19:24

photo that you took of you guys together. And then

19:26

he destroyed it on TV as his way of saying,

19:28

I'm not working with you geek. But

19:31

what was your relationship like with Dutch before that? How

19:33

well did you know him from when he first really,

19:35

I guess with the first family in 81 was, uh,

19:39

was a big push there for him. Oh, well, I

19:41

had met him in Chris

19:43

before Thanksgiving time of 1976 is first

19:45

time that

19:48

I met him cause he came in

19:50

and briefly he was partners with David

19:52

Schultz at that point. And,

19:55

uh, you

19:57

know, he was, I guess at that point

19:59

four or five years. in a business or whatever,

20:01

and it just really

20:03

adopted the name Dutch Mantel,

20:05

because as we

20:07

talked about before, there was an original Dutch Mantel

20:10

from the 19 teens and

20:12

twenties that was a noted

20:14

shooter and was a big drawing

20:17

card and promoter out in West

20:19

Texas that Roy Welch was influenced

20:22

by. And, you know,

20:24

when Dutch got into the Tennessee system,

20:26

the Magoulas and Welch, et cetera, that's

20:28

how that came about. But nevertheless, yes,

20:31

he was away for a few years and then came

20:34

back. Uh,

20:36

actually, was it early 1981? He

20:42

and Austin Idol were partners and

20:45

they had been in Georgia and a couple of

20:47

different places. Cause there's that great photo you took

20:49

of the first family with them and Dream Machine

20:51

and who's the fourth person I'm forgetting. Um,

20:55

oh, I forget now. Wait a minute. It

20:57

was Dream. It was Jimmy Valiant. Jimmy

20:59

Valiant. That's right. Yes. Yes. Dream

21:02

Jimmy Valiant, uh, and

21:05

then Idol and Dutch and Jimmy, but

21:07

nevertheless, and, and yes, I,

21:09

cause I'd taken a million. Dutch was

21:11

one of the most popular baby faces

21:14

after he switched and left the first

21:17

family in a Tennessee territory

21:19

from 1981 through, well, my God, I

21:21

left the

21:24

territory and he was stay, you know, through

21:27

84. And

21:29

then I think they, he went to

21:32

mid south for a while, but nevertheless. And then when it

21:35

came back him and Dundee turned heel. Yes.

21:37

But Dutch was selling pictures

21:39

at one point, the equivalent

21:43

of anybody except Lawler Dundee or the

21:45

fabulous ones at their hottest streaks. And

21:48

when he first turned baby face and,

21:50

uh, for, was

21:52

really working on top, he

21:54

was out selling sometimes

21:57

Lawler and Dundee because they, they had

21:59

more. pictures of Lawler and Dundee, right?

22:02

But he was really over. So

22:04

we had worked together and talked and known each

22:06

other a bunch. And then when,

22:09

uh, we

22:11

were presented with the idea, I'm trying to

22:13

think what the fucking timeline was, but basically

22:18

you didn't find out what you were

22:20

doing in Memphis until

22:23

you showed up on TV on

22:25

Saturday morning, except if

22:27

you had talked to Jerry Jarrett, uh,

22:31

you know, and, or Bill Dundee, the

22:33

Booker at some point,

22:35

you know, during the week. And I was

22:37

not of the status where I was when I

22:40

was first being introduced. I'd done like fucking

22:42

three or four TVs. I wasn't calling to check

22:44

and see what was going on. Right. So

22:48

Dutch told me the week before he said,

22:52

and that's why we had time to do this shit.

22:55

And you mentioned the picture. That's where this is going. It's

22:57

all going to tie together kids. Take the ride with me.

23:00

Dutch said, Hey, they're going to do a thing where,

23:04

uh, you know,

23:06

I, I agree to, to sign with you

23:08

because when I first started managing after the

23:10

Sherry Martel thing, I had come out and

23:12

I'd, I tried to pitch,

23:15

you know, Lawler please sign with me and he laughed

23:17

at me, made fun of me and Dundee please sign

23:19

with me. And he laughed at me and made fun

23:21

of me. But then

23:24

Dutch, since Dutch was gimmick was

23:26

that the fucking gimmick baby face.

23:29

Where, you know, the kick-ass tough guy, his

23:32

story was going to be that he wasn't above taking

23:34

me for a ride for some money. If my rich

23:36

mother was going to pay him some money, sure. He'll

23:38

sign with me and it'll take me for everything I've

23:40

got. Right. And again, the people

23:42

laugh at me, but it's a different goddamn concept.

23:47

If, but this is what's giving me the grudge

23:49

against all of the members of the baby face

23:51

roster. So when I say, oh fuck, I'm signing

23:53

a goddamn heel to get even with all y'all.

23:56

It was Jesse bar, but we'll get that later. So,

24:02

Dutch told me, Dutch

24:04

told me a week before we had a picture

24:06

taken to the two of me in my manager's

24:08

suit and him in front

24:11

of my backdrop, I said, Lawler took it because,

24:13

you know, he was the only one who could

24:15

use the camera. And

24:19

so I had a picture of us and

24:21

then we did the thing on TV where,

24:24

you know, I announced it, I'm, you know, I've signed

24:26

Dutch and I'm going to be in his corner. Monday

24:29

night, when he gets even with Jerry Lawler

24:31

for me and he beats

24:33

him for the Southern heavyweight title. And

24:37

that's, you know, that was the thing is I've

24:39

told the story before my

24:42

first appearance in the Memphis Mid-South

24:44

Coliseum in my wrestling

24:46

career as a performer was

24:48

managing Dutch Mantel in the main event

24:50

against Jerry Lawler for the Southern heavyweight

24:52

title. So needless

24:55

say, they needed to give me a heads up

24:57

a couple of days before. And so I wouldn't

24:59

be shitting myself out there. Right? So

25:03

Dutch, we're going to sign with you, boom, and you can

25:05

boom. And then I

25:07

had the, we'd had the picture taken. So when the

25:10

match comes about on that Monday night, he

25:13

has told me, you just stay out of the way and I'm

25:16

going to take care of this. And

25:18

as I remember it from 42 years

25:20

ago, there was a double knockout of

25:22

some kind and Dutch

25:25

ended up on top of Lawler, but

25:27

the referee was down and

25:29

I get in the goddamn ring and I'm

25:32

dragging the referee over to

25:35

try to make him count for Dutch

25:37

who's got Lawler covered for the title.

25:40

But when a referee, Paul Morton, Ricky's daddy,

25:42

by the way, when

25:44

the referee wakes up and sees that

25:47

it's I'm in the ring, the manager

25:49

and there's Lawler down and he fucking

25:51

disqualifies Dutch. And

25:53

Lawler retained then goddamn it. And then

25:56

Dutch gives me the fucking, what

25:58

the fuck? And I'm old, please. I'm sorry. I'm

26:00

so sorry. And

26:04

that was where, if you've ever seen

26:06

that video, Brian, you remember the

26:08

sailor hat, the yachting cap. Oh yeah, of course.

26:10

I was wearing it as the rich kid. Right?

26:12

Well, I was getting those from Caulfield's novelties here

26:15

in downtown Louisville. And

26:17

at that, in 1982, they were like $3.95 apiece because they were

26:19

cheap as shit. And

26:24

it had no shape to

26:27

it. It was just

26:29

white material, but the way they'd made

26:31

shape to this fucking yachting cap at

26:33

my rich ass millionaire mama's

26:35

boy is wearing is they've

26:38

just stuffed like wrapping paper in

26:40

the, around the edges of it. So it'll stand

26:43

up in the shape of the yachting cap. Right?

26:46

And I'm sweating anyway, wearing this hat at

26:48

ringside and I'm fucking sweating all through this

26:50

match. And now I'm getting in there and

26:53

I'm pleading with Dutch. Oh,

26:55

please forgive me. And I'm just throwing. And

26:57

I'm taking my hat on and off to

26:59

smooth my hair out. And

27:01

the goddamn paper came like

27:03

you've seen guys walk out to fucking shit

27:05

house with the toilet paper hanging out of

27:07

their ass. I had

27:09

like four feet of fucking look like toilet paper

27:12

hanging out of the goddamn back of my hat.

27:14

I didn't realize it. So

27:22

anyway, then the

27:24

following week, the incident that you brought

27:26

up, we go on TV for our

27:29

live interview. And,

27:31

and I believe I can't remember if

27:33

I've already talked about, well, you know,

27:35

Dutch, there was this charge at the

27:37

liquor store and this charge for cigars

27:40

and this charge at the restaurant and

27:42

the bar and. You know,

27:44

the hotel and the blah, blah, blah, but it's all

27:46

worth it. And that's when I

27:48

announced that this is a great, we're going

27:51

to officially sign the contract. Cause

27:53

last week was a trial period. We had

27:55

a little few bumps in the road, but

27:57

everything smoothed out now. Dutch

28:00

is officially going to sign his contract with

28:02

me. And I

28:04

have even, I've even brought

28:06

out a special gift that

28:08

I'm going to give to Dutch Mantell and I

28:11

open it up and it's the picture we had

28:13

taken in Louisville at Lawlor Tuck, I

28:15

got, I got blown up to an 11

28:17

by 14 in this cardboard folder

28:19

that said to my good buddy,

28:22

Dutchy, Jim Cornette. And

28:25

the story behind that was again, Dutch,

28:28

it buzzed me because see, now I'm still,

28:31

I'm starting to manage, but I'm also going

28:33

to all the Louisville shows because that's where

28:35

I'm picking up and dropping off all the

28:38

pictures that I'm still taking because I'm still,

28:40

I'm just not at ringside, but I'm still

28:42

taking all their post shit

28:44

in the back because who's going to goddamn, we

28:47

got to think of the children, think of

28:49

the fucking picture sales, right? So

28:54

Dutch had buzzed me what we

28:56

were going to do this week because he was able to

28:58

talk to Dundee and talk to, you know, Jerry, whatever. And

29:00

I think he was coming up with a lot of this

29:03

himself. So

29:05

I was, I was neither a baby face nor

29:07

a heel. I'm just, you know, what the fuck

29:09

is this guy doing here? So I pick up

29:11

Dutch and we ride down to

29:13

the spot show on Friday night.

29:16

And then on the way to TV, we

29:18

go over what we're going

29:20

to do the next day on Memphis television

29:22

live in front of 300,000

29:24

people. And

29:26

cause I've still, I've only done a few of

29:29

these, right? It's a big fucking, it's a big

29:31

deal to me, as Lawler said, one time to

29:33

Lance Russell. So

29:35

and Dutch, we just talked about it,

29:37

came up with ideas because they're going

29:39

to give us four

29:41

or five minutes on the live television

29:43

show. And the point we've got to

29:45

get across is that I'm

29:48

trying to sign now Dutch officially, and

29:51

I think that it's all roses and he's going

29:53

to then inform me that it's not and

29:56

tell me the fuck off and say he was only

29:58

taking me for a ride. But

30:00

we got to make that last four or five

30:03

minutes and make it interesting. Right. So

30:06

Dutch says, you know, I'll lay

30:08

the premise down. You've got the gimmick. You

30:10

got the picture. You got the contract. You

30:13

got the pin. So

30:15

it, and you lay

30:17

the premise down, Jimmy. And

30:19

then I'm gonna say, well, wait a minute,

30:22

you know, cause, cause if we're

30:24

going to work together, I need to know more about you.

30:27

Right. So because that's how he starts saying,

30:30

let's flesh out, you

30:32

know, what your fucking gimmick is supposed

30:34

to be. You're the rich mama's boys.

30:37

Mother is buying him into wrestling and

30:40

you're a nerd and you're a goof and

30:42

you're unlikable of what are your heel

30:44

qualities, right? This

30:46

and there's Dutch, the fucking, you know,

30:49

Willie Nelson of fucking wrestling by when the cow,

30:52

but not when he was 90 years old, right?

30:54

But back then they were all cool. He's got

30:56

the cowboy hat, the bull whip, right? He's smoking

30:58

a cigar. So

31:01

Dutch says, I want to know

31:03

more about you now, for example, like, um, Jimmy,

31:06

you don't, uh, you don't

31:08

like to smoke or have any

31:11

bad habits like that. Well, he's got a cigar

31:13

in his mouth, right? I'm like, Oh, Dutch. No,

31:15

that's a, that's a nasty habit. Nasty, nasty. That's

31:17

what I thought. And Jimmy, you don't, you

31:20

don't drink and go out and crows and chase

31:22

women. Do you? Oh, no, no, no. I try

31:24

to be home in bed by nine

31:26

o'clock and Jimmy, you don't

31:29

take them steroids and them drugs like them

31:31

pro ball players do because something was in

31:33

the news. It's, Oh no, Dutch. No, I

31:36

would never do anything like that. And,

31:39

uh, Jim, and somehow he got me to

31:41

admit that I like to get up on

31:43

Saturday morning and watch Richard Simmons or whatever

31:45

the fuck. And he

31:48

just did the interview and I'm just, Oh no, or

31:50

Oh yes. And I'm making a fucking dick

31:52

out of myself. Right? And

31:54

we're laughing and driving back, thinking of

31:57

this shit to do. And

31:59

so Then the people can see it coming

32:01

a mile away, but I'm

32:04

so fucking starstruck or clueless

32:06

or a dumb fuck or whatever that I'm

32:08

just oblivious when he says,

32:11

well, now Jimmy, I'd like to take this

32:13

contract. I'd like to take this pin. Oh,

32:16

and he had one line in the car. He

32:19

said, I'm going to say, I'd like to come out

32:21

here on public television sponsored by

32:23

Exxon or whatever. I'd like

32:25

to come out here on public TV and take this

32:28

paper and this, this contract and this pin.

32:32

And I'd like to take this pin and I break

32:34

it in half and he threw it at me and

32:36

he'd grab the contract. I'd like to take this contract

32:38

and tear it in half and he threw it down.

32:41

And he said, I would never work for you for

32:43

a million years. And the only reason is

32:46

different than me that Lawler and Dundee is that I

32:48

wasn't above taking you for a ride. You hit his

32:50

stay away from it. And then he grabs the picture

32:53

as he starts to walk off, but he grabs the

32:55

picture and he takes it out of the fucking thing

32:58

that says to my good buddy, Dutchy, and

33:00

he tears the picture exactly in half and

33:02

he takes his half and he gives me

33:04

my half back. And

33:07

if it leaves me sputtering, but I spit

33:09

money on you and Lance is laughing and

33:12

the people in the studio audience have gone

33:14

out of their fucking mind. And

33:18

we did five minutes of fucking improv

33:20

on local TV that we talked

33:22

about the night before in

33:25

the car on the way back from Covington, Tennessee

33:27

or whatever. But

33:29

that's a, and that's a way Dutch could,

33:31

you know, help teach a lot of the

33:33

guys by just talking to them and say,

33:35

well, what, what would we say?

33:40

It was good like that. But anyway, when you look

33:42

back on that, are you happy with your performance? Now

33:47

no, but for, you know, four weeks

33:49

experience. Yes. I, you know, it was

33:52

pretty fucking good. And

33:54

maybe that's one of the times where they actually

33:56

started saying, you know, he's not fucking actually sucking

33:58

here. I don't know. because they started giving me

34:00

a lot more to do shortly

34:03

thereupon after that. All

34:07

right. Well, but anyway, Dutch Mantell, I guess

34:09

that's the. And again, again,

34:11

somebody who's helped me a lot at

34:13

various points in

34:16

my career with teaching me

34:18

or working for

34:20

me alongside me or just in the locker

34:22

room with me. It's

34:26

your show, though. Well, Jim, let's get to

34:28

some of the big topics, some of the

34:30

big news items that a bunch of the

34:32

listeners have been sending over. So they're unavoidable.

34:34

We must discuss them. Jim,

34:38

as you may or may not have

34:40

heard already, last week came the news

34:42

that Marco Stunt has announced

34:44

his retirement from wrestling. Have

34:47

you heard about this? I

34:49

saw something briefly on. On

34:53

the social media, but obviously

34:55

there have been other things going on

34:57

the past few days that I haven't

34:59

really investigated further otherwise. And I

35:02

think it was either somebody had a headline,

35:04

Marco Stunt retires or somebody said, what

35:07

are your thoughts on Marco Stunt's retirement? I

35:09

didn't know that he

35:11

hadn't already retired. I

35:14

mean, has he still been doing this type of thing

35:16

since we've seen him? It

35:19

hasn't been long enough since we've seen him, but

35:21

it's been quite a while. Uh,

35:24

was he still perpetrating this

35:26

type of activity? He must

35:28

have been doing something somewhere. And we did

35:30

see him on AWW programming recently with Jack

35:32

Perry. Hold on now. Just how to of

35:35

course, he was doing something somewhere. I don't

35:37

know what where. Even if he was in

35:39

an iron lung, he was goddamn doing something

35:41

somewhere. Yeah, he's laying there motionless in an

35:43

iron lung. But I'm talking

35:45

about has he actually been. Imitating

35:49

wrestling still at this point.

35:51

Other than that appearance we saw from him

35:53

on AWTV. I have no idea, but we

35:55

have a statement. We've been official statement. Oh,

35:57

is that from his probation office?

35:59

sir, or according to this, it's

36:01

the title of it is notes

36:03

app text thingy. I'm

36:08

sorry. What now? It's his notes

36:10

app notes app text thingy. OK,

36:14

is this code is so is he

36:16

being held hostage? And he's this is

36:19

do we need to get out our decoder rings

36:21

and try to what the fuck does that mean?

36:24

I think he's just trying to sound cute. But here

36:26

is his message to my

36:28

fans. Friends and

36:31

the wrestling community. But

36:33

his voice wasn't that deep when he actually

36:35

said this. Today, I write this with a

36:37

heavy yet grateful heart.

36:40

As I know. No, no, no, there's nothing

36:42

on his body that's heavy. And

36:45

they have to they have to tie him down

36:47

on windy day. Come on. We're a sentence in

36:49

all by. I

36:51

write this with a heavy yet

36:53

grateful heart as I

36:56

announce my retirement from professional wrestling.

36:59

This decision was not an easy one. Well,

37:01

wait a minute now. Now when we're talking

37:03

about grateful hearts, now that he's got to

37:05

the to the meat of the matter, everybody's

37:07

grateful. This decision was

37:09

not an easy one, as

37:11

wrestling has been the biggest part of my life

37:14

for so long, filled with

37:16

moments that have shaped who I am today.

37:20

But I got pushed my face on that. I dildo. I

37:24

was about to. There's

37:28

there's people have been captives

37:30

of the hostages of fucking

37:33

home invaders and not been forced to

37:35

do the things that he's done in

37:37

the fucking wrestling industry. It has been

37:40

an incredible journey, one full

37:42

of passion, sweat, tears

37:47

and unrivaled joy. Over

37:52

the years, I've given my

37:54

body up to professional wrestling. I

37:57

am obviously not the biggest and

37:59

I. I used that, and I allowed myself

38:02

to be battered. But man

38:04

did I love it. However,

38:08

after consulting with my doctor, I was

38:11

advised to prioritize my long-term health

38:14

and step down from in-ring competition.

38:16

Wait, is this a recent…

38:18

did he just now consult with a doctor?

38:22

Or would a doctor have told him that

38:24

about seven or eight years ago when he

38:26

first saw him doing his shit? Imagine you're

38:28

a doctor and this is your patient

38:31

and you walk in, so tell me about yourself, what's

38:33

wrong? Well, you know, I'm a professional wrestler. The

38:35

guy's like, what? How? Well,

38:38

remember this guy, he was

38:40

doing some

38:42

type of sunset flippage activity, Canadian Destroyer

38:44

of whatever, off of a bar, an

38:46

actual bar in a bar where they

38:48

were having a show and hit a

38:50

railing and broke his leg before. And

38:54

wouldn't a doctor at that point have said, look

38:58

at the state of you and what are you doing?

39:02

Take up books. But let

39:04

me continue here. He can't pick him up. Accepting

39:07

this reality has been one of the

39:09

toughest moments of my career, but I

39:12

know it's the right decision. First

39:15

and foremost, I want to

39:17

express my deepest gratitude to All Elite

39:19

Wrestling, AEW. Thank

39:22

you for giving me the chance

39:24

to showcase my abilities and share my

39:26

passion with fans around the

39:28

world. I

39:30

used to be code for like, I fuck people everywhere. I

39:33

share my passion everywhere I go. Being

39:36

able to wrestle on national television was a

39:38

dream I could hardly have imagined when I

39:41

first stepped into the business. No shit.

39:43

And it was AEW that made that dream

39:45

come true. To

39:47

everyone involved in AEW, from

39:50

the production crew to the fellow

39:52

wrestlers who became my family, thank

39:54

you for believing in me and giving

39:57

me a place to call home. I

40:00

also want to thank you to Brett

40:04

Lauderdale and Game

40:06

Changer Wrestling GCW. Brett,

40:10

you gave me my start. And

40:12

GCW... He's the one to blame

40:14

if anybody wants to pick up a pitchfork.

40:18

And GCW became the launching pad

40:20

for my career. It

40:23

was where I discovered my voice, learned

40:25

to embrace my uniqueness, and

40:28

grew into the person and wrestler I am

40:31

today. You provided

40:33

me with the opportunities that changed the course

40:35

of my life. And for

40:37

that, I will always be indebted

40:39

to you. Unless you ask

40:41

for money. Nya, that part. To

40:44

all the wrestlers I've shared the ring with...

40:47

To all the wrestlers I've

40:49

loved before... To all

40:52

the wrestlers I've shared the ring with... You

40:54

know who you are. And

40:58

you prefer to remain

41:00

nameless. So hopefully

41:02

the fans will forget. That's such a weird

41:05

way of putting it. You know who you

41:07

are. Yeah, every one of you has asked

41:09

me not to mention you and bring that

41:11

memory up again. Each of you has played

41:13

a role in my journey. Teaching

41:16

me lessons. Pushing me

41:18

to my limits. And

41:20

sharing unforgettable moments. Whether

41:23

we battled as opponents or stood together

41:26

as allies. You

41:28

all hold a special place in

41:30

my heart. He sounds like

41:32

he's on some kind of Lord of the

41:35

Rings quest bullshit going on here with the...

41:38

Lastly, to the

41:40

fans who cheered, supported,

41:43

and believed in me throughout every

41:45

match and every show. Thank

41:48

you. Your energy,

41:50

chance, and unwavering

41:53

support fueled me more

41:55

than you'll ever know. You

41:57

are the heart and soul of this industry. and

42:00

without you, none of this

42:02

would have been possible. Oh,

42:05

so now we gotta blame everybody. As

42:08

I step away from the ring, I

42:10

take with me memories and friendships that will

42:12

last a lifetime. While

42:15

I may be retiring from in-ring

42:17

competition, wrestling will always

42:19

be a part of who I am. I'll

42:22

be working a match with my pillow later today.

42:24

No, I hope to continue

42:26

contributing to this amazing industry in different

42:29

ways, and to stay connected with

42:31

all of you who made

42:33

this dream a reality. Thank

42:36

you for everything. And

42:38

this is from Marco Stunt.

42:44

Look, I have never met

42:46

this little fellow, so

42:49

he could be the nicest, most

42:51

polite little church

42:53

mouse that's ever been. Although,

42:57

from the way he was so convincing,

42:59

a little fucking annoying prick on camera,

43:01

one would think that it might lean

43:03

in that direction, but I don't know

43:05

for sure. But

43:08

I have no personal grudge

43:11

against this guy, otherwise then

43:13

it was fucking embarrassing. It

43:16

was embarrassing to the business. And

43:20

it's typical that he thanked two

43:23

guys, the head of garbage championship

43:25

wrestling, that

43:28

idolizes the bank-addicted

43:30

drug robber and will put anybody. He

43:32

fell out with them, apparently. He's

43:34

no longer working with them. Oh,

43:36

I thought you meant he fell off the wagon. Well,

43:39

maybe that too, actually, I'm not sure. Well,

43:42

but the point is, they love that kind of

43:45

outlaw bullshit,

43:47

phony indie

43:49

wrestling. Super fringe.

43:53

And they have fucking 400 people in a bar

43:56

this year. again

54:00

at 65 years of age. Well,

54:03

you think you would think about it differently if

54:05

you didn't at any point stop the grind. I

54:08

mean, I think that could be part of it

54:10

too. If you're someone who's been doing this forever,

54:12

you may not want to stop. You may not

54:14

be able to envision your life not doing this.

54:16

If I had been doing this as long as

54:18

he's been doing this, I would have stopped it

54:20

because I'd be in a fucking solitary confinement cell

54:22

in either a fucking local rubber

54:25

room at a puzzle factory or a penitentiary somewhere

54:28

for strangling somebody. Do you think this

54:30

is an opportunity if they bring Michael

54:32

back as they're saying a temporary leave,

54:35

is this an opportunity for him to reinvent himself

54:37

and start dressing like a normal human? Instead

54:41

of a fucking clown. Is this a chance

54:43

for him? Cause no one ever saw

54:45

Michael Hayes in the eighties and said, I can't wait

54:47

till this guy's dressed like in a fucking zoot suit

54:49

in 30 years. With,

54:52

with sleeves that are long enough to double

54:55

as a straight jacket. Oh,

54:57

yeah. I don't know where the

54:59

suit suits came from. Uh,

55:02

but you know, but Hey, 23 skidoo,

55:04

but no, if, if, if Michael came

55:07

in in like a goddamn polo

55:09

shirt and the khaki slacks and fucking dress

55:13

shoes with his hair slick back

55:17

sunroof top, digging a scene with a

55:19

gangster lean, it would be, you know,

55:22

he doesn't have to do that. It could just

55:24

be blue jeans and a black t-shirt. I think

55:26

that would work. Well, that's what he wore 40

55:28

years ago. The

55:30

thing about every picture you see the free

55:33

birds, he's got blue jeans, cowboy boots and

55:35

a fucking ripped up black

55:37

freebirds t-shirt on. And

55:39

now he's dressed like he's at war with dolomite. So

55:43

maybe this is a chance for him to come back and all

55:45

of a sudden, you know, he hadn't been

55:48

the same since he

55:50

found, found Freddy on the

55:52

corner. I

55:59

don't know. this made me think of it but I

56:01

had to go to a trunk or treat for my

56:04

kids. I didn't have to go. But I enjoyed doing

56:06

these things with my kids. It was trunk or treat

56:08

where everyone in the community, you know, gets together and

56:10

it's a big event and it's candy and... We talked

56:12

about that last year possibly. So I go there and...

56:17

How many kids did you get in a trunk? That's

56:19

very funny, you sicko. Listen, I actually was telling

56:22

the wrong story. I meant to say it was

56:24

the Halloween parade at the school that I'm thinking

56:26

of. They start playing music, right? They

56:29

play the Monster Mash. Okay. That's

56:31

a traditional song for Halloween. They

56:34

play the Addams Family theme. Makes

56:36

sense. The next song was

56:38

Sweet Home Alabama. And

56:41

I was just like, what the fuck? No one's reacting.

56:43

I'm the only one. I'm looking for anyone that will

56:45

make some kind of weird movement so I can

56:48

make... Yeah, they see it too. You're in

56:50

fucking Nose in the Air New Jersey and

56:52

they're playing Sweet Home Alabama. So then I'm

56:54

thinking, okay, maybe even though this is kind

56:56

of the beginning, maybe they ran out of

56:58

Halloween songs and they decided to go with

57:00

Skynyrd? I really don't know. The next

57:02

song was Thriller. So now

57:05

I'm really confused. How did Sweet Home Alabama get in

57:07

the middle of this? But

57:10

anyway, let's go... Did you ask anybody?

57:13

I did not ask anybody. I didn't even know. Susanna,

57:15

because she didn't even pay attention to it. Why didn't

57:17

you go up and comment? Was there a DJ? Well,

57:20

there was a parade. There were teachers and

57:22

students and police officers too doing

57:25

a parade. Where was this music coming from? I don't

57:27

know. I didn't get close enough. Wait,

57:29

how did you not get close enough to find out

57:31

where the... How could you hear the music and not

57:33

know? Was it coming from a speaker? Well, obviously it

57:35

was a speaker, but I can't tell you any of

57:37

the information about the speaker or the chords or what

57:39

it was stuck to. Was the speaker on the float

57:41

or was it just... Were they just playing it in

57:44

that location or was it as the

57:46

float was going down or the people were

57:48

parading? Was the music going with them? You

57:50

could have gotten in that

57:52

line and snatched somebody by the neck. Well,

57:54

on the topic of a parade float, let's

57:56

now focus on Bruce Pritchard here. So

57:59

Bruce Pritchard... leave of absence. Again, he's

58:01

one of the names that a lot of people, Rhonda

58:04

Rousey was very public about it, but

58:06

she's not the only person to talk about it. She was

58:08

just very public about it. Bruce is

58:10

Vince McMahon's avatar. Bruce

58:13

Pritchard was brought back to

58:15

WWE when Vince was looking for...

58:18

at a time where we now know Vince was out of his

58:20

fucking mind. Yeah. He was looking

58:22

for loyalists and Bruce was his guy. Wait a minute.

58:24

Now you say it like this. He was

58:27

out of his fucking mind so he hired Bruce Pritchard.

58:30

Yeah. So he needed someone who wasn't going to

58:33

say no. Well, both

58:35

things just happened at the same time because I know

58:37

Vince hired Bruce

58:39

Pritchard at least twice before he lost

58:41

his mind. So those

58:43

things didn't have to go together. Again,

58:46

Triple H inherits Bruce. Well,

58:48

yeah. And that's the thing is that I

58:51

don't know that Stephanie has been the biggest

58:54

Bruce fan in the past when

58:57

the creative team

58:59

was under her auspices or whatever. Bruce

59:01

has had numerous

59:04

different jobs in

59:06

the company over those years. It wasn't all on

59:08

the creative team where they were butting heads, but

59:13

they want somebody newer that's

59:15

in their system with them.

59:17

I mean, I don't even

59:20

specifically know who that would be, but I

59:22

just know how bookers

59:25

and or promoters are. And

59:30

especially when it's a family generational thing,

59:33

you know.

59:35

But it's someone that you know is a stooge

59:37

for the former boss. Well,

59:40

I mean. Who still owns shares. That

59:44

is probably, that's a more, well, but

59:46

a minute amount of shares in the

59:48

overall scheme of what it was. But

59:52

that was even more pronounced in

59:54

the territory days where you didn't want, as

59:58

you said, the stooge of the former. guy

1:00:00

there except now they're

1:00:03

still in the same family. So,

1:00:05

you know, there's, there's

1:00:08

an element of that, but it's not as pronounced

1:00:11

as it used to be when you just cut

1:00:13

all contact off with the ex booker or the

1:00:15

promoter, he sold the territory or whatever the fuck.

1:00:18

But they still got to see Vince at Christmas and shit.

1:00:22

Uh, but you, but they don't have to see

1:00:24

Bruce. That's my point. Exactly. That's what I said

1:00:26

too. They, they want their

1:00:28

own guys, new guys, guys in

1:00:30

their system, people that

1:00:33

they want to bring up because again, if Bruce

1:00:37

is 61, then Triple H is also

1:00:40

wanting somebody

1:00:42

that's younger and svelter

1:00:44

and more energetic and whatever,

1:00:47

and thinks the way he thinks all the way

1:00:49

down the line instead of, you know,

1:00:52

Bruce. So, well, Vince would have said, well,

1:00:56

Vince would have said, hold on while I shit

1:00:58

on your head. Well, yeah. Explain to me Bruce's

1:01:00

role too. According to this, what

1:01:03

Dave wrote, Pritchard

1:01:05

is one of the key guys in the

1:01:07

creative chain of command above the writing team

1:01:09

and directly under Leveque. So

1:01:13

what exactly is Bruce doing? Well,

1:01:15

there are, remember we talked about this

1:01:17

when on a recent show, I can't

1:01:20

remember in the last week or

1:01:22

so we talked about the writer's room and how many

1:01:24

people were in the writer's room. I

1:01:27

think it would probably be, be worse. We

1:01:32

talked about that and we said that they talked

1:01:34

about the unnamed wrestling people who have been in

1:01:36

the company a long time, didn't want to upset

1:01:38

Vince and were doing inappropriate things that we guessed

1:01:41

it was Bruce and Michael Hayes. And now they

1:01:43

announced both are taking a leave of absence. Yeah,

1:01:45

that is a thing that's come up. But

1:01:52

what I'm saying is, is they think that

1:01:54

it was bad when Vince would often be

1:01:56

in the meetings. I

1:01:58

think, especially when. When Vince came back

1:02:00

and was trying to sell this thing

1:02:02

and probably didn't have as much time

1:02:04

to fuck with other departments as he

1:02:07

normally did, he wanted

1:02:09

Bruce to be in there to shoot down the

1:02:11

shit that he didn't have time to shoot down

1:02:13

and or bring back to him the

1:02:16

shit that he would like shipped directly over to

1:02:18

him. And

1:02:21

be that because Bruce could filter a

1:02:23

lot because he knows exactly

1:02:25

what Vince would say, want, not want,

1:02:27

etc. And

1:02:30

potentially he's doing the same

1:02:32

thing with Triple H because Triple

1:02:36

H has Shawn Michaels do an NXT

1:02:38

from what we understand. There's

1:02:41

a staff of writers

1:02:43

for Raw and SmackDown.

1:02:46

Do you think Triple H is sitting in there

1:02:48

with 27 of them all the fucking time? He's

1:02:50

probably got other things to do. But

1:02:54

he's probably also giving Bruce

1:02:57

directions instructions, A, they

1:03:00

need to be writing for this fucking guy

1:03:03

or don't beat Bron Breakker or

1:03:05

whatever the doctrines

1:03:08

may be that Bruce

1:03:10

then takes to the assembled

1:03:13

writing union over there. It's

1:03:16

just, it's, but it's, it's so

1:03:18

big, it's very confusing and that's why a lot

1:03:20

of shit gets lost and a lot of shit

1:03:22

gets just boring. I guess that's kind

1:03:24

of my question other than being a stooge and

1:03:27

other than, you know, being able to carry a

1:03:29

paper from one side of the room to the other. No

1:03:33

way, I will say, no, Bruce

1:03:35

is very, he's organized and

1:03:37

he takes, here's the thing.

1:03:39

Somebody has to fucking tell people what the

1:03:42

boss wants if the boss ain't in a

1:03:44

fucking room. Bruce is

1:03:46

good at that. Bruce is very organized and

1:03:49

detail oriented and has notes and

1:03:51

he also knows

1:03:54

how to answer questions if

1:03:57

you're asking, should I give Vince chocolate

1:03:59

a or strawberry, he'll be able to

1:04:01

lead you in the direction of the right

1:04:03

flavor. All that type of, so he's serving

1:04:07

a purpose as a goddamn, you

1:04:09

know, go between. His expertise is being

1:04:11

the go between, between you and Vince

1:04:13

McMahon. Yeah. That's what it is. The

1:04:16

Royal you there, not just me

1:04:18

specifically. When he was in MLW,

1:04:22

when he was in impact, I

1:04:24

think it was at the time. I don't remember exactly. I

1:04:26

think it was impact at the time. Yes.

1:04:28

And I fired him. Yeah, that's right.

1:04:30

It, it, it, it became global force.

1:04:34

I'm I don't know who you talked to what you

1:04:36

hear, but I talked to talent and every one of

1:04:38

them was no one

1:04:40

was impressed with Bruce in a creative

1:04:42

role. Without his role,

1:04:44

just being relaying Vince's stuff. When it was Bruce on

1:04:46

his own, people did

1:04:48

not think he really had a clue what he was

1:04:51

doing. Well,

1:04:54

if, if we were still

1:04:56

in 1994 with the TL Hopper or whatever

1:04:59

the fuck that, you

1:05:02

know, the, the underneath gimmicks. And then

1:05:04

if he had

1:05:06

a couple of main event

1:05:09

guys that he could replicate

1:05:11

some late eighties,

1:05:13

WWF type of programs,

1:05:16

but that's Bruce's problem is he spent so

1:05:19

much time. Working

1:05:21

with Vince that that's what he's

1:05:23

got there, except without the, the

1:05:28

overall big picture, you know,

1:05:31

evil empire magnate, it's

1:05:34

a, it's very WWF-ish from years ago. But I

1:05:36

haven't been around him in a while at a

1:05:38

creative capacity. Well, we

1:05:41

will follow up

1:05:43

on any news that we hear about Michael Hayes or Bruce

1:05:45

Prichard and of course, if anything's wrong with any of their

1:05:47

family members, we wish everyone the very best. And

1:05:51

we take back anything insulting that we said. Well,

1:05:53

not everything, but Jim, as we move on

1:05:55

some Vince McMahon news, as we just talked

1:05:58

about it. Oh

1:06:00

boy. He's been trending for a few days

1:06:02

on Twitter because a lot of people are

1:06:04

expecting a pardon for Vince McMahon at

1:06:07

any point after January. But

1:06:10

this morning, as we are

1:06:12

recording the TKO COO, Mark

1:06:15

Shapiro. Okay.

1:06:18

Now wait a TKO COO. The TKO

1:06:20

COO. Mark

1:06:23

Shapiro did

1:06:26

an interview with CNBC and Vince McMahon

1:06:28

came up. Shapiro TKO

1:06:30

COO. And according to Wrestlenomics,

1:06:32

the latest disclosure showed Vince

1:06:34

McMahon still has 8 million

1:06:37

TKO shares just under 5%

1:06:39

of the company. But

1:06:42

let's go to this quote. Yes, he's a

1:06:44

small time player these days. Since

1:06:47

we're talking about Vince, one question about Vince.

1:06:49

He's not a part of the company anymore.

1:06:51

He's sold out. Do

1:06:53

you still hear from him at all? I had breakfast with him

1:06:55

a few weeks ago, just to check in. Been a long time.

1:06:58

Haven't heard from him at all. Obviously the series

1:07:00

on Netflix came out. I wanted to see kind

1:07:02

of where he was. By the way,

1:07:04

he couldn't have been more cooperative. He couldn't have

1:07:06

been nicer. I mean, he

1:07:08

was a total pro at breakfast, if you

1:07:11

will. It's a one-on-one get together, but he's

1:07:13

out of the business entirely. He doesn't make

1:07:15

decisions. He's not on the board. He doesn't

1:07:17

know pine. We don't consult him. He's got

1:07:19

some litigation that he's working through. And frankly,

1:07:22

he wants the privacy and the time to

1:07:24

work through it, which is great because in

1:07:26

the meantime, we're going to keep building TKO

1:07:28

and WWE and expanding the horizon, expanding the

1:07:30

opportunities. And by the way, he's still a

1:07:32

shareholder, not the shareholder he once was, but

1:07:35

he's still a shareholder. But he's supportive of

1:07:37

the direction WWE has is going in and

1:07:39

is gone. Couldn't have been, couldn't have been

1:07:41

more positive, but I wasn't asking for his

1:07:43

opinion. Well,

1:07:46

let's stop it there. Vince at breakfast. What are

1:07:48

your thoughts? Well, first of all, he's a, he's

1:07:50

a complete pro at breakfast. I mean, the way

1:07:53

he ordered the eggs Benedict, my God, like he'd

1:07:55

been doing it for years. Oh,

1:07:58

and then also that was an interesting. He's

1:08:00

a complete pro at breakfast. He

1:08:04

keeps a profession with breakfast. I would never dare

1:08:06

go to lunch or dinner with this man. No,

1:08:09

but in breakfast, he keeps it completely

1:08:11

professional. It was a one on one,

1:08:13

but most one on one professional encounters

1:08:16

are illegal in that state. But

1:08:18

nevertheless, um. It

1:08:20

was in and he says that, of course, he's completely

1:08:23

supportive, but I didn't ask his opinion. I mean, I

1:08:25

didn't ask him what he had to say. I didn't

1:08:27

give a shit. Right. That little boom in at the

1:08:30

end. He was ready, though. He was like, he doesn't

1:08:32

know. Pime, you don't ask him. He's not there. He's

1:08:34

not. I know this guy.

1:08:36

That's what I've said. This guy is smooth

1:08:38

because even Vince, everybody talked about how smooth

1:08:40

Vince was when he was younger before

1:08:43

the slowdown came. And

1:08:47

but he was always why he would throw

1:08:49

in his. His

1:08:51

little phrases like an notwithstanding and

1:08:54

nevertheless, and it's

1:08:56

things like that. But this guy was just right

1:08:58

out with it. Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing. You

1:09:00

can see he could sell you a fucking car.

1:09:03

This guy, the old COO

1:09:05

Shapiro. But

1:09:09

Vince, say hello to your

1:09:11

COO. And

1:09:15

then they pipe in the music over the fucking

1:09:17

system. So he owns under

1:09:19

five percent. He doesn't have any

1:09:21

voting power. He doesn't have a voice in the

1:09:23

company. Yet after the Netflix special came out, Mark

1:09:26

Shapiro still sought him out to, I

1:09:28

guess, fly to either Connecticut or Florida. I don't know where

1:09:30

he is and have breakfast with

1:09:32

him. Well, but now we don't know that

1:09:35

potentially Shapiro was in the town or Vince

1:09:37

was in the town to do

1:09:40

other business. And one

1:09:42

would think that he's downtown.

1:09:44

He sounded like fucking Kool-Aid man

1:09:46

there at that. I'll be in

1:09:49

the meatpacking district. He

1:09:51

packing. Now, wait a minute.

1:09:53

Meat or fudge? Which packing

1:09:56

are you talking about? What

1:09:59

I'm trying to say to. you is, they

1:10:02

could have been merely ships passing in the

1:10:04

same town in the night and

1:10:08

didn't fly across the country to see one

1:10:10

another or whatever the fuck. The point is,

1:10:13

is Marc Shapiro again? One

1:10:16

of the Hollywood types, one of the big

1:10:18

agents, one of the movers and shakers, they're

1:10:20

always on the horn, on the

1:10:22

phone with everybody, keeping an eye

1:10:24

on everybody. Vince McMahon, as

1:10:28

Shapiro was imminently

1:10:30

aware of, has at

1:10:32

least $2 billion. And

1:10:37

he's a guy that he's done business

1:10:39

with. If you know

1:10:41

a guy that you've done business with

1:10:43

that has $2 billion, you're going to

1:10:46

drop him a line every now and then

1:10:48

say, what are you doing and how

1:10:50

much money you got type of thing? Just

1:10:53

to keep an eye on where it is. So

1:10:56

I'm not surprised at all. They

1:10:58

have to, they have to

1:11:00

keep track of what's going on. That's

1:11:03

why I'm not, I'm not in this fucking

1:11:05

rat race of chasing these billionaires around, see,

1:11:07

I can just sit back and analyze this.

1:11:09

Okay. So let's end it with this hypothetical

1:11:11

based on what you just heard there, what

1:11:13

we know about how much he

1:11:15

has in terms of cash, let alone, you

1:11:18

know, 5% or less than 5% of the company

1:11:20

here. If he gets

1:11:22

a pardon and he starts up,

1:11:24

you know, he's doing whatever he is with his own

1:11:26

people, do you still think we're a hundred

1:11:28

percent done with Vince McMahon ever

1:11:30

appearing on WWE TV? I

1:11:37

don't think the pardon will make it. The

1:11:40

pardon will make a lot of difference for Vince. Uh,

1:11:45

but I don't think the pardon would make

1:11:47

a difference from a PR sense. And

1:11:51

again, with Vince's age and

1:11:55

what's he going to look like in three or four years? Hey,

1:11:58

I'm not sure. I

1:12:00

mean, it may have opened the

1:12:02

door somewhat a crack, but I

1:12:05

don't think it's going to be still

1:12:07

anytime soon, certainly not, because there's still

1:12:10

suits being filed. And

1:12:13

how long is this end of federal investigation?

1:12:15

And then after that, no

1:12:18

matter what happens with federal

1:12:20

investigation, Janelle Grant's suit is still

1:12:22

going to go forward. So

1:12:26

it's going to be a while before

1:12:29

he would be free of any

1:12:32

kind of litigation that I would think they would

1:12:34

want him on television, because then they might

1:12:36

be thinking, fuck it, we put him on TV. What are we going

1:12:38

to hear next week? See, if

1:12:40

they put him on TV, it would backfire. I mean,

1:12:42

it would backfire for a number of reasons, and I don't

1:12:44

think they should do it, and I hope they don't.

1:12:46

But if they ever did, it would cause people to

1:12:49

instantly think he's involved at the top

1:12:51

level again. Yeah. And then they would think

1:12:53

you would see him on that show if he wasn't doing something. Maybe

1:12:57

they could just have a wax figure of him

1:12:59

made, and have a

1:13:01

Mr. McMahon's office exhibit, and just

1:13:04

have people sit in there at random. Unfortunately

1:13:06

right now he seems to be the living

1:13:08

embodiment of the wax figure of Vince McMahon.

1:13:11

That's right, we wouldn't be able to tell which was which, would we? Well,

1:13:14

you know Jim, maybe part of the problem is all

1:13:16

those nights that Vince claims he worked throughout the night.

1:13:19

Now we hear he was doing other things, but

1:13:21

he was working throughout the night, very little sleep,

1:13:24

power naps here and there. Maybe

1:13:26

a good night's sleep would have

1:13:28

helped. Maybe after all those bumps after the age

1:13:30

of 50, all those aches and pains, maybe

1:13:33

a little something could

1:13:36

have been applied to help. We know someone we

1:13:38

could send them to. A

1:13:40

little something is what you're saying that could

1:13:42

be applied to any of those things to

1:13:44

help you recover. Your

1:13:46

physical activity if you're feeling the

1:13:48

pain, or maybe get

1:13:50

more sleep. If Vince had slept more

1:13:53

per night and worked out and worked

1:13:55

less, maybe he wouldn't have gone insane.

1:13:57

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Jim, it's time to move on here with the show.

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It's one of those days where I can't tell if

1:17:29

it's the noise or my tinnitus acting up, but there's

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all sorts of things buzzing around us. Hey,

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well, besides the fact you're sitting next to

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a beehive, everything sounds good from this end.

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Possibly it's just the sounds in your own

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mind. Jim, another story,

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if we can call it that, I don't know,

1:17:45

was sent to us by a number of listeners

1:17:47

and several people sent different links. I have a

1:17:50

few of them open here and I'm trying to

1:17:52

get a wrap around these issues. Have you been

1:17:54

following Jake Hager's behavior

1:17:56

on Twitter, I guess is the best way of putting

1:17:58

it? Again, it's been

1:18:01

a busy news week. I haven't had time

1:18:03

to hop on the Hager beat and find

1:18:05

out, is he still around? Where's he at?

1:18:07

What's going on with him? I

1:18:10

think last we heard he was, uh,

1:18:12

I don't know if he was released

1:18:14

or they just didn't renew his contract, but they were,

1:18:16

there was a parting of ways. A while back we

1:18:18

heard about. He apparently, uh, maybe

1:18:21

the highest paid wrestler

1:18:24

per match or per appearance

1:18:26

in the history of the world, because what

1:18:28

he's been there for five years and it

1:18:30

will until he was released or escaped or

1:18:33

whatever recently, but he'd pop

1:18:35

up like every six months

1:18:37

he had seen him and then he was gone and

1:18:41

nobody was clamoring for him to come back. So

1:18:44

what, what's the

1:18:46

deal? Again,

1:18:48

I'm not exactly sure what started this

1:18:50

apparently on election day. There

1:18:53

was a tweet from Jake Hager. It was an

1:18:55

image of someone voting with

1:18:58

a comment. Uh, not, not his comment. It was

1:19:00

attached to the image dad

1:19:02

voting for a Kamala in

1:19:04

hopes that one day his granddaughter can be

1:19:06

aborted at

1:19:09

Jake Hager tweeted that and

1:19:11

said, hope this trigger is

1:19:13

all the commies. Oh

1:19:16

no. So he's really is one of those

1:19:18

all the way, isn't he? And

1:19:21

I guess he got some, uh, and what did,

1:19:24

what does the communist have to do with

1:19:26

abortion? That's a

1:19:28

good point. Actually, I mean, honestly, that's

1:19:30

not one of the things they were

1:19:32

known for. Karl Marx wasn't sitting around

1:19:34

talking about abortions. No. And, and the,

1:19:36

you know, the women that need abortions

1:19:38

in Orangeburg, South Carolina

1:19:40

are probably not communist. Well,

1:19:43

apparently, uh, Mr. Hager received some

1:19:45

negative feedback. I

1:19:47

love all the women's rights wrestling fans

1:19:49

coming at me because I'm

1:19:51

against killing babies that are alive. Y'all

1:19:55

are the same ones that said women needed

1:19:57

a shot to be safe. It

1:19:59

was their body then. He's

1:20:02

he's he's one of them too. Good Lord. Again,

1:20:07

I'm reading these verbatim. Yes, I

1:20:09

am support Trump. Yes.

1:20:13

Wait a minute. What time of day or

1:20:15

night? Is that listed as to what?

1:20:23

Was this very early in the morning or?

1:20:26

It doesn't have a time. It just says

1:20:28

one hour ago from whatever someone took this

1:20:30

screenshot. Yes, I am support Trump. Yes, I

1:20:32

am support Trump. Yes, I'm against

1:20:35

killing babies. I guess that makes

1:20:37

me a racist. No,

1:20:39

again, no. No,

1:20:42

these issues don't have anything to do with

1:20:44

each other because the women that want to

1:20:47

have abortions, because they need

1:20:49

them. And it's

1:20:51

healthcare are either

1:20:53

white or black or any color

1:20:56

of the rainbow. And they

1:20:58

don't have to be communist. So

1:21:01

what is he's mixing his metaphors? Remind

1:21:04

your Chris Jericho to Tony Connell be a good

1:21:06

idea to hire this guy. But he

1:21:08

replied to someone I don't know who this is.

1:21:10

They wrote I'm going to ask you this completely

1:21:13

seriously. What do you as a

1:21:15

man know about a woman's body?

1:21:17

And why do you as a man think

1:21:20

you get any control over it? Like

1:21:22

have we considered all the uses

1:21:24

for abortions? How there are

1:21:26

medical dot dot dot it cuts off there and I

1:21:28

can't see it. Right. Jake Hager

1:21:31

retweeted that I know it try

1:21:33

trying to speak some sense

1:21:35

to this raving lunatic. I know a

1:21:37

woman doesn't get to define murder because

1:21:39

it's inconvenient to their life. Oh,

1:21:43

so that someone replied, you don't know

1:21:45

the first fucking thing about what you're

1:21:47

talking about. Which Hager

1:21:50

said, okay, you're the only one

1:21:52

who gets information. Well,

1:21:55

that's like the old Steve Allen line.

1:21:58

Do they get your program and clean Well, they get

1:22:00

it, but I heard they watch it, but I'm not

1:22:02

sure they get it. What

1:22:05

is he to again, nobody's killing

1:22:07

live babies, first of all, which

1:22:09

is ludicrous, but they're killing live

1:22:11

women who can't get the

1:22:14

dead babies. Or

1:22:16

babies that are soon to be dead removed

1:22:18

in time, because the doctors don't want to

1:22:20

go to prison. Do

1:22:22

you think he's wearing his purple hat as

1:22:24

he tweets these out? Well, he

1:22:27

never leaves home without it. Well,

1:22:29

this is where I got really interesting. A couple of tweets here,

1:22:31

Jim. Tony

1:22:33

Khan is someone who threatened my job

1:22:35

if I didn't stop promoting my Trump.

1:22:38

He, my, my Trump. He,

1:22:41

instead of is it's JS. He

1:22:43

is a communist. Oh,

1:22:47

I read that. He again,

1:22:49

Tony Khan is someone who threatened my

1:22:51

job if I didn't stop promoting my

1:22:53

Trump. He

1:22:56

is a communist. And

1:22:58

then the next. What

1:23:00

does that have to do with it? No,

1:23:04

don't say this batshit stuff while you

1:23:06

work for me, where you're a communist,

1:23:09

especially one of the most well paid, undeserved jobs

1:23:12

in the history of wrestling. He may have a

1:23:14

point here without us even really thinking about

1:23:16

it. Who has given away more of the wealth

1:23:18

than Tony? Well,

1:23:27

there's another tweet here. Why do

1:23:29

all these simpletons think that everybody's

1:23:31

a communist because they want a

1:23:34

decent rational world? I don't. This

1:23:37

guy has a wife, doesn't he? Did

1:23:39

he have a wife or a girlfriend? He has a

1:23:42

wife, I believe. That was wandering around with him. She

1:23:44

was on AEW a few times. That's what I'm

1:23:47

saying. Yes. He thinks

1:23:49

that way about her. Well, you don't get

1:23:51

to commit murder just because it's inconvenient for

1:23:53

your life or your life or whatever. What

1:23:56

a fucking prize he must be. Well, another tweet

1:23:58

that unfortunately. he didn't really follow up on. I'll

1:24:01

tell you that right now. Do

1:24:03

you want proof that Tony Kahn is a communist?

1:24:06

Oh yes, we do. And threaten me

1:24:08

to be silent or else or

1:24:11

else is Tony Kahn threatening murder now?

1:24:13

What is this? Tony

1:24:17

can't tell guys no to

1:24:19

their ideas. He's going to

1:24:22

rub out Jake Hager. Yeah,

1:24:24

fucking pockets and

1:24:26

fucking all the rest of the lollipop guild

1:24:29

walk in there come out with whatever they

1:24:31

want and they've picked Tony's pocket but Jake

1:24:33

Hager, the MMA fighter goes in, hey bow

1:24:36

down or else motherfucker. Hey QT, I had one

1:24:38

more thing I'd ask you. Have you ever killed

1:24:40

anyone? Could

1:24:44

you just just make him

1:24:47

disappear? And then as a

1:24:49

follow up to all of this, I

1:24:51

guess where the story kind of... Well there was

1:24:53

no proof then that given later. And no proof.

1:24:56

There was no proof supplied, although

1:24:58

it was promised about Tony Kahn being a comment.

1:25:01

We're still open to seeing the proof. If you're

1:25:03

listening, Jake Hager. If you

1:25:05

have proof, please deliver it. We would give

1:25:08

it an honest interpretation on the internet.

1:25:10

If you've got papers now that documents,

1:25:12

is he a or a Marxist or

1:25:14

a Leninist or any kind

1:25:17

of ist? Well there's

1:25:19

a wrestling company called Blitzkrieg Pro.

1:25:22

Of course there is. I'm not too familiar with

1:25:24

them or where exactly they are. Let me see

1:25:26

if it says where they are. They

1:25:29

are established... Apparently over the skies

1:25:31

of London. Northern Connecticut, Western Mass.

1:25:34

Oh well, they're the close. Jake

1:25:38

Hager will no longer be appearing

1:25:40

on December 14th in Enfield, Connecticut.

1:25:43

On top of sponsors no longer being willing to

1:25:45

work with him, we also

1:25:47

just have to do what we think is right

1:25:49

for our roster and fans. We're

1:25:52

going to get to work on a replacement ASAP,

1:25:55

however, a few people that

1:25:57

are signed to appear... And he

1:25:59

lists a bunch of uh... uh, other wrestlers,

1:26:02

um, none, uh, none

1:26:05

with the notoriety, I guess, of a Jake Hager.

1:26:07

Is that Dijak on

1:26:09

the poster? I'm not sure, but there

1:26:13

it is. Now he's losing bookings over

1:26:15

this apparently. He's losing

1:26:17

brain cells first though. What the,

1:26:19

the, did he

1:26:21

get drunk celebrating his, my Trump,

1:26:23

his Trump's victory and just blurred

1:26:25

out a bunch of stupid shit

1:26:29

or does he act this way

1:26:31

normally? And that's why Tony

1:26:33

Khan said, Hey, quit saying stupid

1:26:35

shit or they'll be canceling

1:26:37

my shows instead of your indie

1:26:40

bookings. Uh,

1:26:43

Jake Hager retweeted apparently an

1:26:45

account VP comics. You

1:26:48

are a disgrace Blitzkrieg pro such

1:26:51

a disappointment to the pro wrestling community and

1:26:53

to your paying fans by depriving them of

1:26:55

an attraction they paid to see. That

1:26:58

is the first time that phrase has

1:27:01

ever been attached to Jake

1:27:03

Hager. All because your salty and

1:27:05

snowflake emoji about real Jake Hager

1:27:08

supporting the new POTUS along

1:27:10

with 71.6 million. It

1:27:13

didn't really seem like it had anything to do

1:27:15

with him supporting Donald Trump. It was just him

1:27:17

running, running his

1:27:19

mouth, running his Twitter like crazy. It seemed

1:27:21

like he was running

1:27:23

something. All right. Well,

1:27:25

do you think that's the last we'll hear from Jake Hager? No,

1:27:28

no, he sounds like he's got a Billy

1:27:30

Jack Haynes kind of future. I

1:27:33

think we'll we'll hear a lot more from this fucking guy.

1:27:35

That was the line that popped me when I went back

1:27:37

in, uh, when I was doing the editing on the show,

1:27:39

the Valvina segment, you see, whatever

1:27:41

you said, he's a conspiracy. Now this is

1:27:43

that with a hint of Billy Jack Haynes.

1:27:49

Just a touch. The hint, the hint is, uh,

1:27:51

what we put it over. Well,

1:27:53

you know what they say? CTE is a hell

1:27:55

of a drug. Again,

1:27:58

this guy had a job in AW for a very

1:28:00

long time. time making a lot of money. He debuted

1:28:02

on the very first dynamite. A lot of money. He

1:28:05

worked for a communist. He

1:28:08

wasn't complaining when Tony was giving him the money.

1:28:10

He wasn't complaining then. Exactly.

1:28:12

This non-patriotic turncoat trader

1:28:14

to America was taking

1:28:17

money from a known

1:28:19

communist. I

1:28:22

think that somebody in the federal government

1:28:24

ought to investigate old Jake

1:28:26

Hagrid. I'm sure. Wouldn't that make him

1:28:28

a communist sympathizer? There's going to be

1:28:30

a government agency to investigate citizens fairly

1:28:32

soon. Let's get his name on the

1:28:34

list. Wouldn't that make him a communist

1:28:36

sympathizer? Yes. Jake

1:28:39

Khrushchev? He was very

1:28:41

sympathetic to the communist Tony Khan.

1:28:45

So there you go. What

1:28:47

about Jake Koloff?

1:28:50

That would be better. Well,

1:28:54

maybe a charisma vacuum that will prevent

1:28:56

him from reaching the heights of Nikita.

1:28:58

What about just

1:29:00

Koff? Just Jake off? Maybe

1:29:05

that would be better. Well, we'll see where

1:29:07

he ends up. Apparently Vince McMahon's hiring.

1:29:09

So good luck, Jake

1:29:11

Hager. Jim, let's get to

1:29:14

some questions from the listeners here today. And

1:29:16

actually, before we do that, now that I think

1:29:19

about it, you did say you watched

1:29:21

Monday Night Raw live

1:29:23

on tape. Oh, now you

1:29:25

change your story from Saudi. I want to get this

1:29:27

out of the way because, you know, it's raw in

1:29:29

Saudi Arabia. It doesn't well. Yes. Yes. And that's when

1:29:33

it opened up there in Riyadh as if they're

1:29:35

still there. Do

1:29:38

you think there was some delay of the plane? Apparently

1:29:43

not. No, I mean, in this case, they actually

1:29:45

had a Monday Night Booking. I don't think there

1:29:48

was a delay of the plane. All right. Emergency

1:29:50

raw. Go back to the stadium. I'm just thinking

1:29:52

maybe they said, Hey, you can't leave just yet.

1:29:54

Might as well stick around. But

1:29:57

this was one of the, I mean, this could have been

1:29:59

done on a telephone. I'm looking at

1:30:01

my notes here and besides the, again,

1:30:04

the reliable bloodline segment, uh,

1:30:09

the opening of the show was

1:30:12

Liv and Dom and

1:30:15

Rochelle Rochelle, a

1:30:18

young man's journey through Minsk. And

1:30:21

Liv's- A young woman's journey from

1:30:23

Milan to Minsk. Well, she

1:30:27

stopped over in between Milan and Minsk

1:30:29

and- Nevertheless,

1:30:31

Liv is the voice. She

1:30:33

screeches the thing, the valley

1:30:35

girl thing. Dominic

1:30:38

starts to talk. They play the music

1:30:40

and out come Jade and Bianca. And

1:30:44

Jade and Bianca are not happy

1:30:46

because, you know, they

1:30:49

crossed paths last week. So you want

1:30:51

a piece of the tag team champions

1:30:54

and Liv said, why are you guys coming

1:30:56

out all angry? And

1:30:59

so what we've got is Liv doing a promo in

1:31:02

the voice of a six year old girl. And

1:31:09

the whole thing is to set up

1:31:11

the Jade and Bianca aren't really friends

1:31:13

like her and Rochelle,

1:31:16

Rochelle, our old Rachel Rodriguez.

1:31:18

And well, you know,

1:31:21

you're gonna, one of them's gonna stab the other one in

1:31:23

the back at any minute. And

1:31:25

Bianca says, well, we'll do this right now. And

1:31:27

then Pierce and the referees came out and said,

1:31:29

no, you won't. Everybody

1:31:32

has to leave now. And then that's

1:31:34

when Liv told Jade to watch out

1:31:36

for the knife that Bianca's going to

1:31:38

stick in her back and Bianca slapped

1:31:40

Liv. And then Pierce

1:31:43

had to say, okay, well then in that

1:31:45

case, Liv, you're going to defend the title

1:31:48

versus the winner of tonight's battle royal and

1:31:50

the tag team champions are in the battle

1:31:52

royal. And it starts right now. And

1:31:57

I was like, what the fuck? And then we had 18 women.

1:32:01

In the ring for a battle royal, all 18

1:32:03

of them were wearing scuba diving outfits

1:32:05

from head to toe. It looked like

1:32:08

Halloween at SeaWorld. And

1:32:13

this was better than the first, I don't

1:32:15

say better in any respect, this was longer

1:32:19

than the first half hour of the

1:32:21

show. And

1:32:23

then they paid it off with... Jade

1:32:28

and Bianca top-roped the

1:32:30

other two, who

1:32:32

they were left with, EO

1:32:34

Sky and Lyric Valedictorian. But

1:32:38

they hung on the apron so that Jade and

1:32:40

Bianca could stare at each other to build

1:32:43

anticipation like now they're going to have

1:32:46

to fight, but neither one should have

1:32:48

ever thought for a second that they'd

1:32:50

eliminated the other girls because they were

1:32:53

still on the apron. And

1:32:55

of course the heels came back in and boom and

1:32:57

jumped them and interrupted it so Jade and

1:33:00

Bianca hit their

1:33:02

finishes on the other two girls and went to

1:33:04

dump them out. But

1:33:07

there was Rachel at ringside and

1:33:09

grabbed Bianca's six foot ponytail and

1:33:12

was trying to pull her out and Jade was

1:33:14

holding on to her and Liv pulled

1:33:17

both of them over. And

1:33:20

now bear in mind Liv and Rachel

1:33:22

were not in the match and it was

1:33:24

right in front of the referee but the

1:33:26

announcers made the point of mentioning it's no

1:33:28

disqualification! Lazy

1:33:31

booking. It

1:33:34

just looks so bad when the referee has

1:33:36

to stand there and stare slack-jawed because they

1:33:39

just don't care anymore. They just,

1:33:42

well everything's no DQ so we can do

1:33:44

whatever we want. And

1:33:46

then Jade and Bianca chase Liv and Rachel

1:33:49

off and the other two continued the

1:33:52

match and did

1:33:54

the longest most choreographed bullshit

1:33:57

apron bit back

1:33:59

and forth teasing their elimination that

1:34:03

I think has ever been done in wrestling. And

1:34:06

in lyric fell off the end 34 minutes.

1:34:11

Your thoughts do you think this

1:34:13

is too early to tease Jade and

1:34:16

Bianca? Are they

1:34:18

going to do anything at WrestleMania? Do you begin the tease now?

1:34:20

Does that tell you they're not going to do anything then is,

1:34:22

I mean, what, what are your thoughts on it? They've

1:34:25

got plenty of time for WrestleMania. And

1:34:28

I'm not saying that it's even too

1:34:31

early. Uh,

1:34:33

it was just kind of blah, blah, Zaley

1:34:35

done in that. I

1:34:38

think maybe they just wanted to see if the people

1:34:40

would react, but this was Saudi Arabia. They didn't react

1:34:42

for a minute. I don't know whether they got it

1:34:44

or not. And

1:34:46

then they kind of started

1:34:48

rumbling, but the heels were back in and blah, blah,

1:34:51

blah, but no, this wouldn't

1:34:53

be, this would neither be too early nor

1:34:55

too late for WrestleMania, depending on the build.

1:34:59

I mean, they could do it at the Royal

1:35:01

Rumble for fuck's sake, or have some climactic issue

1:35:05

at the Royal Rumble. And there's plenty of

1:35:07

time, but I,

1:35:10

I think that Jade needs to be the

1:35:13

heel because she's more effective that way. But

1:35:15

I almost think it would freshen Bianca

1:35:18

up a little bit if

1:35:21

they surprise people because Ed

1:35:24

goddamn hopping and skipping

1:35:26

and smiley twirly hair

1:35:29

thingy. I'm just, yeah,

1:35:32

but you know what that's worked so far. My

1:35:35

problem would be, can you see Jade

1:35:37

as a longterm baby face? Not

1:35:40

really. It'd

1:35:42

be easier and

1:35:45

more expected if Jade was a heel, but

1:35:48

at least they wouldn't be talking like that to

1:35:51

each other all the time. Oh girl, I don't

1:35:53

know what the hell you're doing. Well,

1:35:56

they did sound so phony when they

1:35:58

do all this backstage banter. between the

1:36:00

two of them, it's ridiculous. So

1:36:02

that's why you want them to be broken up? No,

1:36:06

I'm just saying at least we wouldn't have to hear any

1:36:08

more of that. Well,

1:36:11

what else girl did we have to hear on Raw?

1:36:13

I'll tell you what girl. Did

1:36:17

you see the Wyatt video

1:36:19

thing with Miz? I mean, I'm always-

1:36:22

Oh, yeah, the kidnapping, yeah. They

1:36:25

picked the right country, I guess, to film that

1:36:27

segment in. Oh, good lord. I

1:36:29

didn't even think about that. Where

1:36:33

can we do an abduction and a kidnapping

1:36:35

and maybe have a bone saw around? I

1:36:38

don't know. How about Saudi Arabia? Tie a

1:36:40

motherfucker, do a chair with duct tape over

1:36:42

his mouth. Let's do it in Saudi Arabia.

1:36:44

We check the statutes. It's perfectly fine. Then

1:36:48

in Kofi and Woods, we're doing a promo in

1:36:50

the back when all of a sudden the Wyatt

1:36:52

video pops up and there is the Miz in

1:36:54

a dark room tied to a chair with a

1:36:57

horror mask on and Bo

1:37:00

Dallas is off camera reciting some

1:37:02

kind of Edgar

1:37:04

Allen Poe bullshit. What would this Edgar

1:37:06

Allen Poe bullshit be over with? And

1:37:10

then he pulls the horror mask off and

1:37:12

Miz has his mouth taped. Then

1:37:14

he pulls the tape off. And

1:37:17

Miz is like, you want the final testament.

1:37:19

You don't want me. Just what a gutless

1:37:21

weasel, right? You want the

1:37:24

final testament. He'd be the only one. And

1:37:28

he said, it's all a misunderstanding. I'm willing

1:37:30

to forget all about this. And

1:37:33

again, Bo Dallas does some kind

1:37:35

of, was

1:37:37

that maybe a Shakespearean reading? And

1:37:41

then a guy in a mask, apparently that

1:37:43

may be Uncle Howdy. It was very quick,

1:37:45

ran up from behind and grabbed Miz, the

1:37:47

end. And I wrote,

1:37:49

this is the stupidest shit without a doubt that

1:37:51

I have ever seen. Thoughts

1:37:56

on that? Very out of place

1:37:58

with the Triple H. The pole of that era,

1:38:01

this kind of stuff, this belongs in a past

1:38:04

era. And, uh, I mean, I know it's midcard

1:38:06

if that, but

1:38:09

it doesn't fit in with the tone of everything

1:38:11

else. It belongs in the Ed

1:38:13

Wood era. It's,

1:38:15

uh, it, and

1:38:18

is it in this day and age

1:38:21

with, when people expect to be able to

1:38:23

hear and see things clearly as the treatment

1:38:25

of the old VHS

1:38:28

tape rolling and contorting and

1:38:31

converting or whatever, is that getting over

1:38:33

with the young folks or is that

1:38:35

seen as avant garde in some fashion?

1:38:38

Most fearless people in wrestling, the cameraman

1:38:40

with Moxley, the video editor with Bray

1:38:42

Wyatt's crew. Especially

1:38:45

when he has said, I'm sorry, Mr. Wyatt,

1:38:47

but it looks like the video

1:38:49

looks like shit. We're

1:38:51

gonna have to leave all that, all the

1:38:53

fucking distortion in. That's my look. Leave it.

1:38:56

I mean, we really, that's the thing. And the

1:38:58

other part of the problem is WWE received this

1:39:00

and said, yeah, let's air it. Yeah.

1:39:05

Should we hand it to the authorities? Uh,

1:39:07

maybe Tuesday. Let's hear it on

1:39:09

Monday. As soon as we air it, we're going to

1:39:11

immediately send it over to the police. Cause that guy

1:39:14

looks like he needs some fucking help. Please

1:39:17

help me call police. Uh,

1:39:21

anyway, so that was that. And

1:39:24

then the new day wrestled the war

1:39:26

Vikings and the

1:39:28

war Vikings one and son of a gun, we were

1:39:30

at nine o'clock. That was

1:39:32

the first hour. So

1:39:37

Sammy came to the ring, Sammy Zane

1:39:40

at the nine o'clock hour and the people

1:39:42

love him and he spoke to

1:39:44

them and their, their language, their

1:39:46

native tongue. What

1:39:49

is it? Saudi Arabian ease or what language

1:39:51

do they speak over there? Uh, you know,

1:39:53

I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Possibly

1:39:55

more. Please help me. Don't saw my

1:39:57

head. Oh no, I have a family.

1:39:59

No, let me go. Think of

1:40:02

the children. Yeah,

1:40:04

that's the kind of language they speak. But anyway,

1:40:06

he, and then he said in English, that's why

1:40:08

I know what he said. That

1:40:10

he was proud to come out before

1:40:12

his people and speak their language. And

1:40:17

French Canadian, French

1:40:20

and Montreal. What, what language exactly? That

1:40:22

was like, it was like, wait a

1:40:24

minute. You, you happy to come out

1:40:26

before all you French Canadians? And, um,

1:40:29

and we established before and I've forgotten

1:40:32

because it's confusing and it all revolves

1:40:34

around religion. So I don't care to

1:40:36

begin with, but Sammy

1:40:38

was on the outs over there. He couldn't

1:40:41

go over there because the people that were

1:40:44

running the place were mad at his people,

1:40:46

but now they're not mad

1:40:48

at his people anymore. And his people are your

1:40:50

people and your people are our people. And we're

1:40:52

all people. And the checks cash.

1:40:55

And the checks cash. So

1:40:58

then suddenly Jay's music

1:41:01

interrupted and the crowd went

1:41:03

nuts and here

1:41:05

comes Jay and he's over and

1:41:09

Jay tells Sammy, thank you

1:41:12

for helping me at crown jewel. You know,

1:41:14

and, and I appreciate what

1:41:16

you did for me, oos and blah, blah, blah.

1:41:18

And I've got to ask you, was

1:41:21

it an accident when you

1:41:23

kicked Roman reigns in the face and

1:41:26

see that is going to be, that's the thing. That's

1:41:28

the bone of contention. Was it

1:41:30

an accident when they shot Marvin

1:41:32

in the face? I'm sorry. It's

1:41:35

a wrong movie. Was it an accident when

1:41:38

he kicked Roman reigns in the face? Oh man,

1:41:40

he shot Marvin in the fucking face. All

1:41:43

Sammy had to say was don't you a peacock go

1:41:45

back and watch the footage. Square

1:41:47

as day was an accident. Well, he was standing

1:41:50

in a fucking ring at the time, but nevertheless,

1:41:53

so then when he asked that question before

1:41:56

Sammy can answer Jimmy's music plays.

1:42:00

And Jimmy comes in pissed because

1:42:03

everybody saw it Sammy Zane kicked

1:42:05

Roman Reigns in a face on

1:42:07

purpose and I'm

1:42:09

pissed and Romans pissed and you ought to

1:42:11

be pissed too Jay and we

1:42:13

can't trust this guy. So

1:42:17

now here again you know the

1:42:19

the dissension is rearing its ugly

1:42:22

head in the bloodline but

1:42:24

Sammy bowed up at Jimmy.

1:42:26

Okay you, you,

1:42:29

you. That's

1:42:33

exactly what he did. You of all people

1:42:37

are trying to say you can't

1:42:39

trust me you you're the one and

1:42:41

then they went back to the angle and you know

1:42:43

what it fits. You brought

1:42:45

me in the family to begin with. You're

1:42:48

the one who kicked me in my face.

1:42:50

You kicked Roman in the face and you

1:42:52

kicked Jay in the face. So

1:42:55

why, why aren't you the one that we

1:42:57

can't trust? And

1:43:00

then yes I know you made bad

1:43:02

decisions before but it

1:43:04

crowns you for a minute. Just

1:43:07

a minute there it felt like old

1:43:09

times where we were all standing together

1:43:12

fighting for the common good. Maybe

1:43:14

Sammy's a communist. That's

1:43:17

what Valvenus said. Valvenus accused them of

1:43:19

being a... That's true because he stood

1:43:21

together and fought for the common good

1:43:23

at crown jewel. Shit he's going to

1:43:25

AEW then. And

1:43:27

then, and then they're all gonna be a bunch of commies

1:43:30

down there. God damn commies.

1:43:33

But anyway. Said you were a

1:43:35

commie too by the way. Well. Comrade,

1:43:38

comrade cornet. I hate all

1:43:40

them motherfucking commies because they're

1:43:42

even commier than I am. But

1:43:47

Sammy finally said I'm not gonna have

1:43:49

my integrity and my morality and my

1:43:51

motives questioned anymore. I love you Jay

1:43:53

but I can't do this again. I

1:43:55

can't go through it. I'm out. And

1:43:59

Sammy's leaving. to walk that aisle.

1:44:02

And then JJ says Sammy Sammy

1:44:04

please don't go don't go

1:44:09

Oh for Christ's sake, come on, no,

1:44:11

stop. If you leave at least in

1:44:13

my lifetime, I will leave in the

1:44:15

next minute. I'll have that one dream

1:44:17

come through. It's a nightmare. Could

1:44:20

be loved by someone as

1:44:22

wonderful as you please

1:44:25

don't go. He said

1:44:27

please don't go to Sammy. Did

1:44:29

you go? Did you go away? Or

1:44:33

are you still there Brian? Hold on, let me

1:44:35

remove these Q-tips that I stuck as far into

1:44:37

my ears as I could. Hello? Well

1:44:39

you know sometimes you can get

1:44:41

a little tickle out of that if you go in deep

1:44:44

enough. Oh, let me try that. Yeah,

1:44:46

and it's as a matter of

1:44:48

fact, if you go right till you feel your brain

1:44:50

and then go just a little bit deeper, it feels

1:44:52

fucking great. Oh, I'll let you know

1:44:54

how it feels. And let

1:44:57

me know if you can still speak English

1:44:59

afterwards. But anyway, so

1:45:01

JJ asked Sammy, said please

1:45:03

come to Smackdown. Please come

1:45:05

to Smackdown for the springtime.

1:45:08

We'll stay up in the mountains so

1:45:10

far that we can't be found. Did you put

1:45:12

the Q-tips back in? I

1:45:16

guess he did. So Sammy said

1:45:18

please come to Smackdown, Sammy,

1:45:21

to talk it out with

1:45:24

Roman and the

1:45:26

whole gang. And Jay told

1:45:29

Jimmy that Sammy is

1:45:31

family. And the

1:45:33

people started chanting Sammy, you so...

1:45:38

And all that type of thing. The

1:45:40

end. So

1:45:42

another incredible dramatic reading, a

1:45:45

rimdition if you will, a

1:45:47

perpetration of an Oscar

1:45:50

Wilde stage play, adapted

1:45:52

by Oscar

1:45:55

Levant with the

1:45:57

Hammerstein... with Rogers and Hammerstein.

1:46:00

score. It's an expensive crew

1:46:02

here. What'd you think? You

1:46:05

know, it was all right. The

1:46:08

only thought is it feels like, you know, it's like

1:46:10

a reunion of everything from years ago, but it

1:46:13

worked then and so far so good now. So

1:46:16

you're saying it's deja vu all over again.

1:46:18

Yes Yogi. That's what I'm saying. All

1:46:21

right. Well, hey, thank you, booboo. So

1:46:24

then we got Chad

1:46:26

Gable and dragon Lee, but I forgot to pay

1:46:28

attention. And

1:46:30

apparently Gunther is

1:46:33

giving Ludwig Kaiser some tough

1:46:36

love because Kaiser

1:46:38

was doing a promo where he said that Cody

1:46:40

got lucky and that was

1:46:42

all it was. But Gunther cut him off and

1:46:44

said, put Cody over and said that night he

1:46:47

was the better man. He

1:46:49

thought he said he was the butter man. He

1:46:51

said the eggs and butter business now possibly bought

1:46:53

a dairy. I'm not sure. But

1:46:57

he had a good thread. One good line

1:46:59

about tonight's four way. You

1:47:02

have three very capable performers and

1:47:04

Dom. So

1:47:06

that way even the heels give Dominic

1:47:09

absolutely no respect, but

1:47:11

Gunther said, it's up to me to do

1:47:13

better. And he looked at Kaiser and he

1:47:15

said, we both have to do better. So

1:47:18

there's tension there and poor

1:47:23

Kaiser. He's always getting pushed around.

1:47:27

But then it was time for the main event. I

1:47:30

swear to God. I have

1:47:32

described this whole program. They

1:47:35

could have telegraphed this in much less phoned

1:47:37

it in. The

1:47:39

main event was a

1:47:42

winner is the number one contender match.

1:47:44

My that's a revolutionary thing. They've never

1:47:46

had before Damien

1:47:49

priest versus Seth Franklin Rollins

1:47:51

versus Dominic Mysterio versus Seamus.

1:47:55

And the entrances took 10

1:47:58

complete minutes. And

1:48:01

they still rang the bell with 20 minutes on the

1:48:03

air. So,

1:48:06

I mean,

1:48:09

would you like a complete blow

1:48:11

by blow move by move breakdown of this

1:48:13

20 minute long four way match or you

1:48:15

want to, you want to just

1:48:17

let me fast forward you to the last five

1:48:19

minutes where something happened? Yeah. You know, that sounds

1:48:21

good. Okay. Well, all of

1:48:24

a sudden Bronson Reed showed up and

1:48:27

grabbed Seamus and priest and ran

1:48:29

them into the ring posts down on the

1:48:31

floor and says saw him

1:48:33

and they got in a fight and

1:48:36

Bronson Reed cleared the announced desk off,

1:48:39

but priest and Seamus got back up

1:48:42

and got on Bronson Reed and Reed

1:48:45

rolled into the ring and starts

1:48:48

beating up priest and Seamus again.

1:48:51

Again, they're so well, it's no DQ. This

1:48:55

guy's beating people up. That's in the match. He's

1:48:57

not even in the match and you've created a

1:48:59

situation where the referee just has to stand there

1:49:01

and look at it. And it's, it's just, but

1:49:05

anyway, he, so for

1:49:07

the integrity of the match, not so good,

1:49:09

but to get Bronson Reed over, it's

1:49:12

good. He splashed priest. He

1:49:14

splashed, splashed Seamus. My

1:49:16

God. He

1:49:18

splashed priest. And

1:49:21

then he executed

1:49:23

the splash on Seamus

1:49:27

and then he splashed Seth through

1:49:30

the fucking announced desk and

1:49:33

this is great. And then Dominic splashes

1:49:36

Seamus off the top rope,

1:49:40

one, two, and priest saved him.

1:49:43

And I'm like, what the fuck? I,

1:49:46

I, I'm like Jesus Christ.

1:49:48

That was out of nowhere. And

1:49:50

I guess they wanted to give Dom something, but

1:49:53

then Dominic goes to the top, like he's going

1:49:55

to splash somebody and priest got up and choke

1:49:57

slammed him or grabbed him in a choke slam.

1:50:00

and Chokeslammed him 1-2-3. So...

1:50:06

It would have been great if Dominic

1:50:08

had got the win in the cheapest

1:50:10

of fashions after everybody had written

1:50:13

him off with that behind

1:50:15

the back splash there, but... Instead

1:50:18

they went with free. But he can't have

1:50:20

Dominic against Gunther. Well,

1:50:23

that was raw. And

1:50:26

of course, Jim... You don't have any

1:50:28

incisive... No, I was done by this point. I

1:50:31

was done by this point. See,

1:50:33

now you're getting spoiled when they go back to

1:50:35

three hours, pal. Oh, stop

1:50:37

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That's right. Select Quote, welcome to the

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in the future. Jim, let's get to some questions

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here on the show. The ones

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we're going to go to today are part of a

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thread on the Cultic Hornet Facebook group. Max

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Heron wants to know

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stuff outside of wrestling separating the art

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from the artist. Uh,

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I mean, I don't, you know, I was

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never a fan of Hogan's matches

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