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This is the Joko sitting here with

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Echo Charles. We have some

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questions Charles. We have some questions from the

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answer at this time. we will

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First one, maybe a classic

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question a a little spin on

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it. Let's go. go. Okay, right.

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right. Okay, my son's dream since he was eight since

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he was eight years old a to be

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a Navy He's now in college freshman

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down management major

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major NROTC program. intelligent,

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hard worker, strong minded, patriot.

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patriot. and athletically superb. not excited not

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excited to join college because all

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he thinks about is to

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be a in colleges, quote, is not his thing.

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not his thing. eyesight But due to

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his eyesight and medical advice, was

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that vision not happen until surgery 21. not

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happen until he turns 21. him

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to go My husband and I encouraged him to

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go to school is his vision We believe that We

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believe that education is important especially if he

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wishes to run for office one day. day.

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Recently, he has expressed that he

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wants to leave school, return home and

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work, and maybe attend college for a

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few classes until he's 21. he's 21. He no

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interest in being an in he wants to

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be because he wants to be on the ground. If

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he becomes an officer, he would not be

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able to do that. My fear he would not

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be able to do that. My fear is that he could

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be just fascinated by the the movies, books, books he

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reads, reads and how cool it is

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to be a seal. I I support him

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with all my heart, but I'm very

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scared scared he lose an education opportunity. I

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I to advise him without pushing

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too hard pushing too hard and to finish school

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so he'll have something to fall back

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on, but he believes he failure is not

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an option, is and if he fails, and

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it's his choice. I don't believe nor don't

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believe nor wish fail, would fail, but

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his father and I have been through

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life life believe in backup plans. How do

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I direct him in a positive way

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and how to find peace with his

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decision if he decides to leave college?

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to you for your I God bless. your services.

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God bless. look at it like this. at

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The it like part of this question is the actual

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little question here, which is, little

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question here, do I do I direct

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him in a him in a positive

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way? find peace if he decided to leave

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college. Like if he leaves college, it's

2:04

not that big of a deal. You

2:06

go to college when you're 20, when

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you're 25, when you're 23, like you

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can go to college. College is not

2:12

that big of a deal. You can

2:14

go when you're 30, you can go

2:16

through 33. So it's not that big

2:18

of a deal. So if he. And

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by the way, if you've got your

2:22

kids going to college and it costs

2:24

money to go to college and he's

2:26

not into it, he's not learning anything,

2:28

he's not paying attention, he's not getting

2:30

straight age, he's not developing a plan,

2:32

he's not networking with people, he's not

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doing internships to find a fall on

2:37

job, you see what I'm saying? It's

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just a big freaking waste. Yeah. So

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if he's like, hey, I don't want

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to go to college anymore, be like

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you can pay for rent. Right? Because

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I think it's important. You want to

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pull out of college? Cool, because I'm

2:51

supporting you because it's a long-term investment

2:53

in your future, which I'm doing so

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that someday when I'm old you can

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take care of me. There's the return

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on investment there, right? Of course you

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want your kid to do well. You

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want them to be more successful for

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you. That's great. You want your kid

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to do well. You want them to

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be more successful for you. That's great.

3:11

So if he wants to pull out

3:13

of college, I don't think it's that

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big of a deal. And by the

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way, I am a person that doesn't

3:20

believe you need to go to college

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at all. Like you can be an

3:24

electrician, a plumber, a welder. There's all

3:26

kinds of jobs you can get that

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you don't have to go to college

3:30

to do. And by the way, there's

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all kinds of jobs you can get

3:34

that you don't have to go to

3:36

college to do. And by the way.

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Move home. Uh, cool. He can get

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a job and he can contribute to

3:42

household expenses, i.e. You have to pay

3:44

the mortgage so he can help with

3:46

rent. You have to pay for food.

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He can help pay for food. You

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know, you could that cell phone that's

3:52

in your pocket. Yep, you

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can give me

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80 bucks a month.

3:59

You see what

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I'm saying? -hmm. If

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he wants to do that, fine, he has to understand what

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that means. College is a privilege, college

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is a gift. If you're not taking advantage of it,

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don't go there. And by the way, if my

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kid was going to college and not putting out and

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getting into it, I'd be like, oh yeah, you're

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cut off. We're not sending you in, it's a waste

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of freaking money. So. So I think

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that would be fine and it's not going to

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change the trajectory of his life. In fact, if

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he gets a job, doing some entry level

4:26

job somewhere? he's to learn a lot. He'll

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a lot about life and

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about value and about work effort.

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So I think that's the easy part. He wants to drop out

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of college for a while. Cool, drop out of college. You wanna

4:39

come home and get a job, you wanna start working as a

4:41

laborer on a construction site? Go do it, it'll be awesome. It's

4:43

gonna be good for you. You wanna come

4:45

and you wanna get a job at a restaurant,

4:47

be in a busboy, work your way up to

4:49

being a waiter after a few years. you

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know what I'm I'm saying? People don't realize,

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oh it's work. So

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let's think about that want to come and

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you want to join the workforce force at 19.

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Cool, Come and join it. You will go

5:03

back to school. You may decide to go back

5:05

to school in two years, like, yep, I'm going to college. I'm to I'm get

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a degree. This is what I'm interested in. don't want to have to do that

5:09

type of work. Here's what I want to do. Good, you got a plan now. So

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I like that. You want to pull out of

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college? Cool. We're done. I think that's

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easy. And he's got plenty of time

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and he'd do a better job. But I

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went to college when I was 28

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years old. What a freaking, Like,

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you know the kids that get

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held back so so in school and

5:28

high school? they're, you know. older

5:31

than the other kids. They could

5:33

kick ass in wrestling or what? In

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wrestling? Yeah. fully. Or football, yeah.

5:37

yeah our football or whatever so they're

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grown men Dude, that's what that's what

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it was like when I went to

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college. Yeah, I was in a fully

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formed adult male with

5:49

10 years. of

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labor under my belt of in the

5:53

workforce, supporting myself and a family.

5:55

You think I'm not ready to rock

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and roll in college? So wasn't

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even, it wasn't even. fair straight A's,

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dude, you could not stop me.

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if I went to college when I

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was 18, it'd be like, uh, how's

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that working out for you? I'm

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an idiot. So I think that is

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totally fine. I think the hard

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part about this question is. whether or

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not you want to. encourage

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him or discourage him.

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from it joining the Navy

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for an attempt at being a seal

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because the training is really hard.

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And 80 % of people don't make

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it. And 100 % of the people

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don't think they're part of that 80%.

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100 % of the people think they're

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gonna make it. 100

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% of the parents think they're gonna make it. maybe

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that's not true.

6:44

Maybe % and so,

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you you think

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you're going to make it. And by the way, of

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the 80 % The 80

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% that don't make it.

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70 75 % of those that

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don't make it of the 80 %

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are studs. they're

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freaking studs. They're varsity

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athletes, multiple sports. They're

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collegiate athletes. They're professional

7:07

athletes. their Olympic

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athletes. their

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Ivy League educated. and

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countless of those type of

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people, are, as you put

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it, like intelligent, hard -working,

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strong -minded, patriotic, and athletically superb,

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means nothing. Those guys quit

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by the bushel. by the bushel

7:27

they quit. so

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no one thinks that it's gonna be them.

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No one thinks it's gonna be them, but it is them. him

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Him stating that he doesn't want to be an officer

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because he wants to be first boots on the

7:42

ground. It's an understandable idea. but but

7:44

the chance that he would not be able to

7:46

become an officer anyways. because he's like. not

7:51

even focused on

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school. you know what mean? You're

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not going to be a person like the

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kids that are getting picked up as

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officers. They're free not only only but but

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they've been focused since they

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were 14 years old grades and

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on getting the grades the ACT the

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SAT scores and the ACT scores and

8:10

the recommendations and the community service

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and the athletic leadership. They're getting

8:14

all those things chalked off. off. So

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you're thinking So you think you're gonna

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compete with a kid that's been focused on this since

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he was 13 years old? since he was has

8:22

old who has actual straight days

8:25

that to the Naval Academy? Academy

8:27

that went to the ROTC

8:29

program at college college a got

8:31

a scholarship there. are the brigade

8:33

commander the ROTC. You commander of their

8:35

ROTC. You see what I'm

8:38

saying? young man, and I'm sure he's a

8:40

great young don't, this. have

8:42

a chance for I'm sure he's a great young man. so

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He have a chance for being an officer, so

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that's just off the table anyways. I shouldn't say he's

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totally off the I shouldn't say

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he's totally off to like to refocus his

8:52

entire existence. Because

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he would have to be like, oh, I'm

8:57

in college right now because I want to

8:59

become an officer. That's why I'm getting straight

9:01

A's. That's why I'm studying these courses. That's

9:03

why I'm taking two languages, that's why I'm Russian. these

9:05

You see what I'm saying? That's why I'm taking two

9:07

languages Farsi and Russian. You

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see what I'm saying? fact that he that

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he could run for office one day? a

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weird thing to a weird thing to talk about right

9:16

now. for a 19 year old kid. -old kid. a

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It's not a great sign by the way. if if if

9:21

if your goal is goal is to run for office, it's

9:23

not a great sign. a great It means

9:25

it means you to your resume your resume, which

9:27

is not a good sign. The a good

9:29

sign. be a resume desire to be a

9:32

resume builder. for does not bode well for

9:34

making it through seal training. does it does it well

9:36

well for being the type of leader that

9:38

performs well in the SEAL well in the seal If

9:40

you're a type of person that wants

9:42

to go into politics, to a good sign. into

9:44

politics, not a good of them end up in

9:46

politics. I get it. in politics, I get it. But...

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They do do not go with

9:52

the intent of going to going They

9:54

kind of end up there. kind of

9:56

end up there So let's just

9:59

Let's just keep that. in mind. Here's

10:01

another thing like I'll just

10:03

throw these out there like

10:05

how many pull-ups can you

10:07

do? Can you do 25

10:09

to 30 dead hang pull-ups?

10:11

Can you do you know

10:13

what's his four mile runtime?

10:16

Is it under 26 minutes

10:18

right now? What's his 500

10:20

minutes right now? What's his

10:22

500 meters went? Is it

10:24

under nine minutes right now?

10:26

Is he coming in the

10:28

water? Injury has he had

10:30

a shoulder injury those shoulder

10:32

injuries and back injuries and

10:34

elbow injuries and knee injuries

10:37

that you show up to

10:39

buds with they're gonna get

10:41

tested in a way that

10:43

is not It's it's barely

10:45

even an ethical freaking thing

10:47

to have happen Because they

10:49

don't care because combat doesn't

10:51

care So there's an eye

10:53

surgery Echo Charles. They put

10:55

lasers into your eyes and

10:58

they cut things. Your eye,

11:00

believe it or not, is

11:02

still developing until you turn

11:04

21. And so you can't

11:06

get the surgery before you

11:08

turn 21, which is a

11:10

bummer. And so you have

11:12

to wait. Now one thing

11:14

that this could, maybe this

11:17

kid's 18, was he a

11:19

freshman? You could probably go

11:21

to four years in the

11:23

Army or the Marine Corps,

11:25

get a good like baseline

11:27

as an infantryman. So that

11:29

would give you a good.

11:31

base two for what it

11:33

takes to make it through

11:35

seal training. The seal route

11:38

is hard. We need to

11:40

keep that in mind. And

11:42

the chances that this young

11:44

individual sounds like a great

11:46

kid, intelligent, hardworking, like really

11:48

focused, the chance start that

11:50

he won't make it. So

11:52

we have to keep that

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in mind. It's a hard

11:57

route and it. It is

11:59

something that I do

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not encourage people to do. I

12:04

don't encourage people to do it. Because

12:06

if I say, hey Billy.

12:09

The SEAL teams is the best, you should go for

12:11

it. And then they don't make

12:13

it and then they hate their lives. And

12:16

I I

12:18

don't want to be responsible

12:20

for ruining their life. So

12:24

I do not encourage people to do it. And

12:29

as much as we believe, and like I said,

12:31

the kids that don't make it through are studs. Division

12:34

I athletes, name the sport. Name

12:37

the sport. Wrestling, football, swimming, running, they

12:39

all quit. They've all quit. Hey, they've

12:41

all made it too, but they've all

12:43

quit. So it means nothing. All

12:48

that being said, there is a

12:50

certain drive. in a small percentage

12:52

of young men that for

12:54

no logical reason. That's

12:57

what I realized. actually, I realized that

12:59

when I thinking about this question. there's

13:02

no logical reason to try and go

13:04

to, to try and go in the

13:06

SEAL teams. It doesn't make sense. It

13:08

doesn't make logical sense. If you were

13:10

to be a... put

13:12

into AI, the

13:14

pros and cons of the various

13:16

branches. of, you know, should I go

13:18

special forces? Should I go Rangers? Should go

13:20

Air Force CCT? Should I go Marine Raider? What

13:24

I I miss any? If you put

13:26

that into chat GPT said, okay, here's

13:28

who I am, here's what I have,

13:30

what is the best? what

13:32

is the best route for me to take? AI

13:34

would tell you any of the other branches. It

13:38

would tell you any other branches. It would just

13:40

look at the percentage of people get dropped. It

13:42

would look at the amount of injuries, the amount

13:44

of people that get disqualified, the amount of people

13:46

that don't make it, and what happens when you

13:48

don't make it? Because what

13:50

happens when you don't make it through seal training, you end

13:52

up in the Navy. and the Navy

13:55

industrial jobs for the most part.

13:57

which people that want to be seals don't want industrial.

14:00

jobs. They want commando jobs. They want infantrymen

14:02

jobs. You don't get those in the regular

14:04

Navy. So So

14:06

It doesn't make

14:08

any logical sense.

14:10

to go

14:13

that route. but

14:15

guess what? the people that

14:17

do that route. for no logical

14:20

reason. That there's just one job that they

14:22

want. There's one job that they want

14:24

and that's it. your

14:27

son might be one of those people. And

14:29

here's the thing. if

14:31

he is one of those people. he's to

14:33

go for it. and

14:37

he needs to make that decision. And in

14:39

the unlikely, the highly unlikely event, because you hear

14:41

the 80 % attrition rate, that just counts to

14:43

people that show up to buds. Most people

14:45

don't even make it to Buds. So

14:49

in the unlikely event that

14:51

he makes it through the most

14:53

arduous, selective, random, brutal, and

14:55

ridiculous training pipeline, it's the best

14:57

job ever. It's best

14:59

job ever. He's

15:02

to make that decision, and you can't

15:04

actually help him in either way. Because

15:07

if you talk him out of He's

15:09

going to regret it and he's going to resent you. And

15:11

if you talk him into it and he doesn't make

15:13

it, he's going to regret it and he's going to resent

15:15

you. So he's a

15:17

young man. and

15:20

he needs to decide what he's going to do. And

15:23

the best thing you can do is

15:25

support his decision and wish him luck. That's

15:31

my assessment here. Sounds like you're

15:33

ready. a great kid. So

15:35

you're saying in a nutshell, he

15:38

either way, college, good deal, but

15:40

not necessarily a rush to go to

15:42

college. No rush to go to

15:44

college. You know, if

15:46

he wants to be in the workforce for a couple years

15:48

he's waiting to get his eye surgery, cool. And

15:50

I personally think it's a waste of money

15:52

anyways. If he's not into it, Yeah, if he

15:54

doesn't have a plan, and he's not going

15:56

become an officer. Dude,

15:59

save. make a a bunch of money and save

16:01

it. save it. That way when you you the Navy or whatever

16:03

branch you, you have some money in the bank

16:05

and in the you can be saving for a house,

16:07

you know, when you for a house somewhere. you when you

16:10

get stationed that would be Yeah and that would

16:12

scenario this they scenario you know how they they

16:14

were like, oh, we believe in were like we

16:16

believe in know, because we've been through life

16:18

and stuff like that, which makes sense, I think.

16:20

like that which makes It does make sense, it does know?

16:22

And you get people know like, you have a backup

16:24

plan, are you know? a backup plan you

16:26

get that. get that mentality but

16:29

you better consider that when

16:31

again it's consider that. someone

16:34

that of it's hard to convince someone.

16:36

make it you're of the people

16:38

that don't make it, you're one of them? Yeah, join

16:40

if they didn't Because why would anyone join if they

16:42

didn't think they were gonna make it? Yeah, all

16:44

think they're gonna make it. That's what I'm saying,

16:46

yeah, exactly. it And you see and you quitting. Quit.

16:49

yeah quit so yeah and you're your whole

16:51

And your and I thing. And I

16:53

always looked at at and always looking but

16:55

but think think of Buds, which

16:57

is the which is the primary

16:59

time where people quit, always, I always keep

17:01

in mind that it's not even I always keep

17:04

in mind that it's not even necessarily

17:06

just quitting. There's way, you not many, many

17:08

other ways for you not to make

17:10

it. are many, many other ways not

17:12

to make it. the injury part of

17:14

it, because always go to like, that's sports to

17:16

how sports are. know, like, like, hey,

17:19

if I dedicate myself, it's like, like, chance

17:21

of me going going. a professional level is

17:23

like high. So you if you a misstep a quarter

17:25

on on some spin move and you

17:27

blow out your Achilles and it's a

17:29

game over. exactly right. some guys guys, a there's

17:31

a lot of guys sports and where they they

17:33

sports their whole life whole life really gifted

17:35

all the stuff all the stuff and now it kind

17:37

of gets narrowed down to work ethic and

17:39

what they to you know know how they're

17:41

gonna plan to do this thing and then

17:44

the chances then the are pretty high if

17:46

you exclude the potential for injury for injury

17:48

But injury is like like, that's one of

17:50

those things things that's not up to you that's

17:52

much you of the time. much most of the time some

17:54

other things that aren't up to you that aren't

17:56

up to you too. Mm. For instance, some some people

17:58

aren't comfortable Yeah. And you

18:01

can work on it a lot.

18:03

But if you didn't grow up

18:05

that way, it can be a

18:08

problem. Some people aren't very good

18:10

at shooting a pistol. Some people

18:12

aren't really good at shooting a

18:15

rifle. Some people aren't really good

18:17

at spatial awareness. Some people have

18:19

a hard time with their proprioception

18:22

while they're skydiving and they can't.

18:24

Flat, they can't do it. Yeah.

18:27

So there's like things that you

18:29

can fail. Right. Yeah. And like

18:31

be out. Some people have the

18:34

one mistake that they make is

18:36

an accidental discharge on the range.

18:38

You're done. You're done. So it's

18:41

not just quitting. By the way

18:43

quitting is the vast majority. Quitting

18:45

is the vast majority. Quitting is

18:48

the vast majority. But then it

18:50

comes down to performance drops, which

18:52

is like, oh, you failed to

18:55

run. Now you failed another run.

18:57

Yeah, but. Water in your lungs

18:59

you had a cough you had

19:02

a sore knee you had a

19:04

sprained ankle no one cares combat

19:06

doesn't care and no one at

19:09

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