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Join today with me is Sean.

1:46

Hello again. Oh boy. That was

1:48

really aggressive. That's not a good

1:50

start. It's not a good start.

1:52

Come on Get into it. Forgive

1:55

me viewers. They're not viewing anything,

1:57

they're just listening. listening. Yeah, it's

1:59

a more of an ear thing.

2:01

I'm all up in your brain

2:04

right now. No nice thing. Can't

2:06

afford a video. Yeah,

2:08

Chris Williamson is a

2:10

very interesting dude. Great

2:12

podcast, a great interviewer,

2:14

curious individual, reads a

2:16

lot of books, solid

2:18

sense of humor, and it's

2:20

great to see him coming on Rogan

2:23

as much as he does. Yeah. You

2:25

know, when these top podcasters come together,

2:27

and it's like yeah they have this

2:29

little network where they influence each other

2:31

and stuff whether it's like a Lex

2:34

and Rogan or you know even Fio

2:36

now just coming on it's like changed

2:38

the dynamic of you know they interview

2:40

a lot of people each then they

2:42

get together and just kind of discuss

2:45

like hey what are you learning it's

2:47

going on out yeah I think it's

2:49

cool Chris is one of my favorites

2:51

in the podcasting verse too like him

2:53

and Lacks, I always, always enjoy, if

2:56

there's like a guest that they have

2:58

on their show, I always listen to

3:00

it, because they ask such good questions,

3:02

like they get to the meat of

3:05

the stuff and they ask good questions

3:07

and they're, like, actually, not to say

3:09

that a lot of podcasts, well, I

3:12

will say, a lot of podcasters are

3:14

not smart and don't ask good questions,

3:16

but I feel like they are always,

3:18

like, like, actually adding something to

3:20

the conversation than them or... you

3:22

know just a normal dude they

3:24

always are asking really good questions

3:26

they always seem like very interested

3:29

in the conversation and it's always

3:31

a good place to kind of let the mind

3:33

kind of just roam and hear no ideas

3:35

and new perspectives and stuff like that I

3:37

really enjoy Christmas podcast and it's cool

3:39

too to see like you know before

3:41

it was just kind of like them

3:43

they had their own little small shows

3:45

and they would go on Rogan and

3:47

promote them and but now everyone's promoting

3:49

each other like him, Lex Lex Like

3:52

Theo you mentioned him, all of their

3:54

podcasts are like well respected and very

3:56

well listened to in their own sphere,

3:58

you know? Yeah. So it's cool. to

4:00

see everybody else just kind of, you

4:02

know, get in on a lot of

4:04

the attention that's going to the podcasting

4:07

world. Yeah, and a lot of the

4:09

big guys, I mean, just like you

4:11

would expect, with a lot of practice,

4:13

you get better at it. I mean,

4:16

Theo has become a really good interview,

4:18

but it's still very much his style.

4:20

Oh, yeah. Very silly, but he also

4:22

can go deep, he can go into

4:25

all different areas. He's a very unique.

4:27

interview Alex has improved a great deal.

4:29

He's not quite as good

4:31

as he used to be.

4:34

And many of the intellectual

4:36

ones, Bert Croyshire, about the

4:38

same. It's just about the

4:41

same. He was pretty good

4:43

before and still pretty good.

4:45

So it's not a knock on Bert.

4:47

But I'm still waiting for

4:49

a really profound question

4:52

from Bert. And Tom Sagura is very good

4:54

too. Yeah, well I think everyone is just kind of grown into

4:56

their, grown into themselves a lot more. So like they've just kind

4:58

of honed down on what they're good at and gotten better at

5:00

it. So people just kind of know what they want to listen

5:02

to. You know, if you're like, I'm not much of a birdcrisher

5:05

fan, it's like, you're not a birdcrasher fan, that's fine. That's all

5:07

good. That's why there's why there's so many, there's so many podcasts.

5:09

There's so many podcasts, there's so many podcasts, so many, so many,

5:11

so many, so many, so many, so many, there's, so many,

5:13

so many, so many, so many, so

5:15

many, so many, so many, so many,

5:17

so many, so many, so many, so

5:19

many, so many, so many, many, many,

5:21

many, many, many, many, many, many, many,

5:23

many, many, many, many, Yeah, I mean

5:25

that's the great thing. You just don't

5:27

have to listen to something you don't

5:29

want to. I'll tell you where I

5:31

liked this conversation with Chris going is

5:33

like immediately did they start out with

5:36

conspiracy theories and even some good ones.

5:38

Antarctica, flat earth. That's one thing in

5:40

the podcasting space. I'm glad they haven't

5:42

lost because the podcasting space was

5:44

labelled early on like a conspiracy

5:46

theory, you know, kind of... dare

5:48

I say, I don't know, sanctuary

5:50

or just a place where they

5:52

all are? And I felt like

5:54

in time as podcasts were trying

5:56

to like legitimize themselves as media,

5:58

people would step away from... from

6:00

that? I don't think so. They've

6:02

like doubled down. Yeah. That's great

6:04

news. So let's go over some

6:06

of the Antarctic conspiracies. Well, yeah.

6:08

Just beforehand, I hate how the

6:10

word conspiracy theory has been like

6:12

weaponized nowadays. You know, it's like

6:15

at the end of the day,

6:17

we're just like sharing ideas and

6:19

like, well, you know where it

6:21

came from, right? What's that? The

6:23

CIA created the term. push back

6:25

against people that questioned the JFK

6:27

assassination. Oh really? Yep. I'm not

6:29

surprised. Yeah. No, but it's just

6:31

so annoying. Like even at work

6:33

the other day, someone was talking

6:35

about like, oh, what are you

6:38

a conspiracy theorists? And I'm like,

6:40

Maybe, maybe a little bit, maybe

6:42

a little bit. Yeah, what does

6:44

that even mean? Do I occasionally

6:46

question things that turn out to

6:48

be true? Even though I was

6:50

told that I wasn't even allowed

6:52

to think about it or question

6:54

it? Yeah. And at what point

6:56

do some of these conspiracy theories

6:58

not become conspiracy theories? Like when

7:01

they're actually true and there's evidence

7:03

to back them up, it's like,

7:05

that's not really a conspiracy theory

7:07

anymore. That just actually happened. Yeah.

7:09

No, then it's just called a

7:11

fact. the other people that were

7:13

wrong about it just look a

7:15

bit dumb and if you do

7:17

that a bunch of times then

7:19

you know you are allowed to

7:21

label those other people though I

7:23

think so well you got a

7:26

you just got a I don't

7:28

know there's a scale to it

7:30

you know dude it was it

7:32

was a conspiracy theory for a

7:34

long time that the Wuhan coronavirus

7:36

came from the lab yeah studied

7:38

coronavirus It's the name of the

7:40

lab. They're like, no, it came

7:42

quarter of a mile away in

7:44

that village where they have a

7:46

market. And you were crazy to

7:49

ask the question. You could get

7:51

banned from Twitter for saying, no,

7:53

I think it came from here.

7:55

I like to use logic and

7:57

they're like, how dare you? How

7:59

dare you? What are you out

8:01

of your mind? What are you

8:03

a flat earther? What do you

8:05

not believe the CDC? Yeah, and

8:07

the other thing about conspiracy, it's

8:09

like they lump you in all

8:12

of it. Oh, yeah. You're not

8:14

allowed to just believe or think

8:16

one could be true. It's like,

8:18

no, you're just in that category

8:20

now. And as soon as they

8:22

start making you a flat earther,

8:24

you know, you just want to

8:26

step away. Be like, be like,

8:28

okay. I thought it was really

8:30

funny when they were talking about

8:32

Antarctica. They brought those group of

8:34

flat-earthers out there and they like

8:37

proved to them and the one

8:39

dude was like, all right, I

8:41

guess you guys are right. And

8:43

then it like completely dismantled the

8:45

whole flat-earth community. He was like

8:47

their hero. And then he's like,

8:49

listen guys, I'm sorry. They're like,

8:51

they've got to him. Yeah. Ridiculous.

8:53

But the fact that two didn't?

8:55

It's like even in the face

8:57

of overwhelming evidence it you can't

9:00

be persuaded Yeah, then maybe you're

9:02

just you don't learn anything Yeah,

9:04

you know it would be like

9:06

I mean most people except the

9:08

one plus one is two The

9:10

little kids whatever it's like but

9:12

what the units the the actual

9:14

values like that's not all important.

9:16

They're not doing like the background

9:18

math. They're just young people learning

9:20

a thing And it's like, yeah,

9:23

one plus one is two. If

9:25

you have to like really break

9:27

that down and you're still doing

9:29

it with an adult and you

9:31

have to take them to a

9:33

special location and show them two

9:35

physical things, move them together and

9:37

they're still like, I don't think

9:39

it's two. You're like, bro, we

9:41

cannot help you at all. You

9:43

imagine what the rest of that

9:45

guy's family thinks? They're like, they're

9:48

like, come on, he's a flat

9:50

earth. And they're like, they're like,

9:52

oh guys, I'm going out to

9:54

Antarctica. We're going to see the,

9:56

they're going to prove it to

9:58

us. Like, we're going to see

10:00

that the earth is flat. Or

10:02

the earth is round or whatever.

10:04

And then. Everyone's like, yes, hell

10:06

yeah, he'll finally get it this

10:08

time. Finally, they're gonna break through

10:11

with him. And then he comes

10:13

back and he's like, I don't

10:15

know guys, I think it's still

10:17

flat. The family just must be

10:19

devastated. They're like, we really had

10:21

hope. We really thought that you

10:23

were going to change your ways.

10:25

It's like when you come back

10:27

from fat camp and you're still

10:29

fat, you know? And he was

10:31

like, sorry, we tried. We didn't

10:34

give you any food, he had

10:36

any food. He had it. He

10:38

had it. He had it. He

10:40

had it. He had it. Some

10:42

of those are wild. Yeah, some

10:44

of those are wilds. What's that

10:46

weapon? The directed energy weapons. There

10:48

we go. Did you hear the

10:50

podcast with the guy on Sean

10:52

Ryan show? I saw that one.

10:54

Yeah, yeah. I mean, it. I

10:56

don't want to say it's like

10:59

credible. It's not like that. It's

11:01

the way that he told the

11:03

story. The way he explains it.

11:05

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11:07

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11:09

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To those places is not like

12:12

he worked on it or he

12:14

just could like move around the

12:16

locations. and for some reason is

12:18

in a position now to talk

12:20

about it. Is that guy still

12:22

alive? I don't know. And also

12:24

it's like, where do you go

12:26

from there? You know, he doesn't

12:28

have any actual physical evidence. Yeah.

12:30

And it's like, just overall, like

12:33

what is the point of even

12:35

setting up a base like that

12:37

there? I mean, that's so difficult

12:39

to even build anything there. It

12:41

is, but I mean, if you

12:43

want. absolute complete secrecy there's no

12:45

better place I mean there really

12:47

is no better place well do

12:49

you know that you can't fly

12:51

over it too oh yeah yeah

12:53

there's a lot of not only

12:56

that but Antarctica is just fucking

12:58

massive like it's massive and the

13:00

amount of like infrastructure and equipment

13:02

you need to even just reach

13:04

certain points are insane and I

13:06

mean Think about all the crazy

13:08

infrastructure things that humans have done

13:10

when we really are like hey,

13:12

let's do this like let's we're

13:14

gonna put our money in our

13:16

mouth behind this like You know,

13:18

I mean we went to the

13:21

moon That's pretty impressive because we

13:23

all were behind it and we're

13:25

like hell yeah, we're gonna do

13:27

this. And so yeah, I bet

13:29

behind closed doors that you I

13:31

mean we talked about this the

13:33

last time the no one knows

13:35

where the money in the Pentagon

13:37

goes. It's you know, no one

13:39

knows that yeah, so I'm not

13:41

saying there's a lab and Antarctica

13:44

hypothetically create a super secret lab

13:46

where you wanted absolutely no one

13:48

to ever have any idea what's

13:50

going on. Antarctica will be the

13:52

place to do that shit. That'd

13:54

be the best place to do

13:56

that. That or like the bottom

13:58

of the ocean, but that seems

14:00

a lot harder. That's tough. The

14:02

precious. Yeah. I think that's hard

14:04

to deal with. with and going

14:07

to space. Pressure the other way,

14:09

instead of it like pulling you

14:11

apart, like space well, the pressure

14:13

just to squash you. That's another

14:15

weird one when, I don't remember

14:17

when this happened, but they were

14:19

doing like really a lot of

14:21

deep, deep. see research in the

14:23

ocean and then they just straight

14:25

up stopped. They're like, yeah, we

14:27

don't we don't want to know

14:29

what's going on down here anymore.

14:32

This is not worth our time.

14:34

Like, that's kind of weird. You

14:36

think they try on something? Well,

14:38

maybe. I don't know. I mean,

14:40

I could see it being like

14:42

not worth it to investigate and

14:44

stuff, but I'm just saying like

14:46

the amount of technology that they're

14:48

able to create for. Again, when

14:50

you want to have something that

14:52

works extremely effectively and you have

14:55

unlimited amounts of money like the

14:57

US military does, essentially, you can

14:59

do whatever you want. Right. But

15:01

anyways, yeah, there's some weird shit

15:03

that goes on in the deep

15:05

of the ocean that we're just

15:07

like, yeah, we're gonna go to

15:09

Mars instead. Well, I mean, they've

15:11

been seeing all those European flying

15:13

in the water and then supposedly

15:15

there's... footage, like high death of

15:18

an object going past these oil

15:20

rigs, like big oil rigs, and

15:22

it's bigger than them, moving very

15:24

quickly. That's crazy. And that has

15:26

been seen. And it's like, yeah,

15:28

if we start coming into contact

15:30

with things like that, it probably

15:32

is a good move just to

15:34

back off a little bit. Yeah.

15:36

They don't want us fucking with

15:38

them. I'm sure. They gonna get

15:40

pissed. They gonna get pissed off.

15:43

Yeah. Well, Antarctica. Turns out it

15:45

can't persuade people that the Earth

15:47

is not flat, or at least

15:49

sad. Do they have direct energy

15:51

weapons? After what you said, I'm

15:53

starting to believe yes. on board

15:55

there. It could be possible. What

15:57

was that weapon supposed to do?

15:59

It made earthquakes, right? Earthquakes and

16:01

fires. A lot of people were

16:03

saying that, and there's not a

16:06

lot of evidence to support this,

16:08

but a lot of people were

16:10

suggesting that some of the fires

16:12

in Maui and in California were

16:14

started by... The direct energy weapon

16:16

yeah, so what is the idea

16:18

it goes from and talked it

16:20

must bounce up a satellite? It's

16:22

probably some sort of satellite if

16:24

it had to be because that

16:26

would be the way you would

16:29

control it You know you can

16:31

aim it anywhere and use it

16:33

instantly I don't know again. There's

16:35

not a lot of evidence to

16:37

support that one, but if you

16:39

look at like a beam go

16:41

Yeah, I don't know But if

16:43

you look at what they're doing

16:45

like in Maui all of those

16:47

places those people lost insurance coverage.

16:49

They have no money And then

16:51

massive real estate corporations and big

16:54

conglomerates come by and just buy

16:56

all the land and then they're

16:58

going to turn it into like

17:00

super high-rise stuff. It looks like

17:02

that's what's going to happen in

17:04

the Pacific Palisades in LA after

17:06

those fires because Newsom went on

17:08

the news and Rogans you know

17:10

mocked him for it because he

17:12

did that little dance. Like yeah

17:14

we're bringing in all these people

17:17

to you know kind of do

17:19

corporate stuff and buy all this

17:21

land. But it's like wait a

17:23

second what? Yeah, what about the

17:25

people that lost their homes? Yeah,

17:27

like hold the phone here So

17:29

it you know time will tell

17:31

I mean give it a decade

17:33

and we see what's built there

17:35

and that can lean into its

17:37

own Like conspiracy sure it could

17:40

just be the result of what

17:42

happens after there's fires. Yeah, maybe

17:44

they're the only people that can

17:46

rebuild in that way realistically and

17:48

this is just kind of the

17:50

evolution of things, but it doesn't

17:52

look good Possibly an incentive for

17:54

some people to start fires. Yeah,

17:56

and yeah, I just don't like

17:58

it and then A lot of

18:01

these areas, like the insurance companies

18:03

getting rid of coverage, like months

18:05

in advance or years in advance

18:07

sometimes, being like, yeah, we straight up

18:10

don't cover against fire protection. It's like

18:12

I live in a fiery area. Why

18:14

would you not cover for that? You

18:16

know, it's like living in Florida and

18:19

not having hurricane insurance. Like, that's crucial.

18:21

Or alligator insurance. Yeah. That's just your

18:23

cousin Billy. He just comes over with

18:25

a shotgun in a case of beer.

18:28

By the end of the afternoon, they'll

18:30

be out of the pool, guarantee it.

18:32

The irony of that though is it's

18:34

really sad. It's almost like living

18:36

in a cold area and they're like,

18:39

no, we only have air conditioning here.

18:41

It's like, no, no, we need heat.

18:43

It's cold. Yeah, like there's laws in

18:45

place. I don't know what the specific

18:47

laws are in Montana, but I believe

18:50

it's something, because they have the same

18:52

thing in Florida, just the inverse, where

18:54

like if it's in the summer. and

18:56

your air conditioning unit breaks, there's like

18:59

a 24 hour or 48 hour period

19:01

where the people have to go fix

19:03

it by law because like you'll just

19:05

overheat and die or like in the

19:07

cold you'll just freeze to death, but

19:10

there's like certain laws like no you

19:12

have to come fix it within 48

19:14

hours. I think it's under like normal

19:16

circumstances, not like national emergency or stuff

19:18

like that, but under normal circumstances by

19:21

law you have to come fix it

19:23

by certain times. wouldn't have that power.

19:25

That would be a different scenario, but

19:27

yeah, like just you yourself. It's important.

19:29

I mean, elderly people can't live long.

19:32

Oh yeah. And if it gets way

19:34

too hard or too cold very quickly.

19:36

Yeah, or like small animals and,

19:38

you know, children and stuff like

19:40

that, it's not good. But yeah,

19:42

there's like certain laws in place

19:44

to protect people from things like

19:46

that, but not if your house

19:48

burns down, you're fucked. Not with

19:50

energy weapons. Yeah, you're in big

19:52

trouble. That's in the fine print.

19:54

You gotta paint your roof blue.

19:56

Turns out, talking about other wild,

19:58

well, this is more of a...

20:00

Discovery in a sense they've used

20:02

some sort of LIDAR and you

20:04

guys have probably heard about this

20:07

everywhere even before It came on

20:09

Rogan, but I was I was

20:11

waiting for this to be broken

20:13

Yeah, they've looked under the pyramids

20:15

and they found these huge columns

20:18

like eight columns that have coils

20:20

around them all the way down

20:22

that could be walkways that seem

20:24

hollow I guess this LIDAR is

20:26

like pretty good at measuring things

20:29

out so you know they're fairly

20:31

certain these things exist and they

20:33

go down like 600 meters that's

20:35

pretty far stop on top of

20:37

these two kind of hollowed out

20:39

definitely constructed carved granite granite blocks

20:42

that are ginormous we're talking like

20:44

football field yeah size mind-boggling like

20:46

at that point it's like well

20:48

now What do you say? It

20:50

already is fairly clear that the

20:53

pyramids were basically impossible to build.

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to TNCs. At least in the

22:03

time frame that they're saying that

22:05

they were built, because it was

22:07

placing a two ton perfectly cut,

22:09

you know, rectangle stone every two

22:12

and a half minutes to equal

22:14

the whatever 29 years it would

22:16

have taken. It's just, that's not

22:18

happening. It's like the massive scale

22:20

of the rocks is one problem,

22:22

like how do you move them,

22:25

some of them are... cut from

22:27

quarries like hundreds of miles away.

22:29

Like that's a big problem. How

22:31

do you move them? But also,

22:33

how do you cut them? I

22:36

mean, they're cut perfectly. And according

22:38

to what modern archaeologists say, it

22:40

would have been during like the

22:42

Bronze Age, which you can't cut.

22:44

I mean, you can. It takes

22:47

extremely long to cut rocks like

22:49

that. So it's like, how are

22:51

they cutting them too? That's another

22:53

issue. Like how do you move

22:55

them and how do you cut

22:58

them? And how do you cut

23:00

them? I mean that assembly line

23:02

is rapid. Yeah. Well a lot

23:04

of people, a lot of people

23:06

say, well oh they had just

23:08

a massive amount of slaves back

23:11

then, which I could see, you

23:13

know, when you have like millions

23:15

and millions of people to just

23:17

do free labor for you, you

23:19

could get a lot done in

23:22

a couple hundred years, but some

23:24

of this stuff just doesn't add

23:26

up. You know and then still

23:28

the big question of like what

23:30

was the purpose of all this

23:33

we still don't understand that no

23:35

like some people say it was

23:37

a shrine for the grave other

23:39

people say it's like some sort

23:41

of a energy creation device powers

23:44

nation after these coils and and

23:46

a little bit more probable, yeah.

23:48

The whole picture now, it's starting

23:50

to look like it's more of

23:52

a giant machine, in a sense.

23:55

It had some purpose, it had

23:57

to have done something for them.

23:59

Yeah, because it just takes too

24:01

much. Yeah. Too much to put

24:03

that together. Yeah, it's crazy. There's

24:05

also, like, the ones in Egypt

24:08

are pretty mind blowing. A lot

24:10

of the pyramids in Mexico and

24:12

in Central America, Central and South

24:14

America are also really cool. Like,

24:16

have you heard Graham Hancock talk

24:19

about, there's certain, some of the

24:21

pyramids in, I believe in Mexico,

24:23

somewhere in South America, or South

24:25

or Central America, I can't remember

24:27

which ones it is, but the

24:30

really massive ones, there's a thing

24:32

that the stairs do on the

24:34

side of them, where when they're

24:36

in, I think, an equinox, or

24:38

where the sun is in a

24:41

specific part of the sky during

24:43

the year, there's a shadow that

24:45

gets casted on. the steps that

24:47

basically makes the serpent head on

24:49

the bottom of the steps look

24:51

like it has like the shadows

24:54

form this like wave that go

24:56

up the top of the steps

24:58

so it makes it look like

25:00

the whole serpent on the side

25:02

of the building. It's a really

25:05

really cool thing to see and

25:07

it only happens at this specific

25:09

time of the year. So like

25:11

they engineered this entire pyramid to

25:13

be in an exact spot so

25:16

that during this exact time of

25:18

the year, during sunset it creates

25:20

this formation. That's incredible. That's incredible.

25:22

Yes, insane. And you watch it

25:24

and it looks like a serpent.

25:27

It looks so cool. Have you

25:29

ever seen the map where they

25:31

like draw the line between the

25:33

Mexican pyramids where the Egyptian ones

25:35

are? And then there's like some

25:38

in China and they say that

25:40

it basically across the globe like

25:42

draws out the Orion's belt. Oh

25:44

really? There's a connection to the

25:46

Orion. belt with like each set

25:48

of pyramids too. Oh I did

25:51

see that yeah yeah yeah yeah.

25:53

I don't know how true those

25:55

things. You know, it's like, if

25:57

you draw enough lines with stuff,

25:59

you can make graphs look kind

26:02

of however you want. Yeah. But

26:04

I don't know, it's fun. Yeah.

26:06

And there are, like, most of

26:08

the pyramids, they're orientated in an

26:10

exact way that aligns with the

26:13

sun and the stars in some

26:15

way. There's some sort of a

26:17

astrological significance to them. Yeah, I

26:19

think they're aligned to true north,

26:21

like perfectly aligned. Yeah, which is

26:24

insane to perfectly align structure right

26:26

that big. Yeah, at that time.

26:28

And then there's a weird thing

26:30

about the base of one of

26:32

the pyramids or the great pyramid

26:34

that it's like a perfect ratio

26:37

sizing of the entire globe. It's

26:39

like you multiply it by so

26:41

many times and it's like perfectly

26:43

fit. I guess you could say

26:45

that's a coincidence, but But I

26:48

think they're tough ones. I think

26:50

it gets to a point where

26:52

you get too many coincidences and

26:54

you're like, these are no longer

26:56

a coincidence. This is kind of

26:59

just a bit too perfect. One

27:01

of my favorite facts about the

27:03

pyramids is, and this was a

27:05

Neil DeGrass Tyson one that he

27:07

mentioned on the podcast a while

27:10

ago, but after the great pyramids,

27:12

the next largest structure that was

27:14

built, so like in timescale. The

27:16

next time we built something taller

27:18

than the Great Pyramids was the

27:20

Eiffel Tower in like 18, whatever

27:23

it was, early 1800s. But that

27:25

was the next structure that we've

27:27

managed to build, stable structure that

27:29

was taller than the pyramids. So

27:31

it took us that long to

27:34

build something that tall. That's taller

27:36

than this ancient, fucking structure. It's

27:38

crazy. And the Eiffel Tower would

27:40

not last 100 years if we

27:42

didn't keep repairing it. No, no

27:45

way. No, you don't need to

27:47

do anything to the pyramids go

27:49

nowhere. No, they're not going anywhere.

27:51

Yeah, could be a couple of

27:53

like another 10,000 years They'd still

27:56

be hanging around and we'd all

27:58

be done. Yeah You

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podcasts. Baron goes over, giant

42:49

guy leans in says something

42:51

and then Biden just looks

42:53

terrified. Yeah. And I supposedly

42:55

some lip readers like tried

42:57

to analyze it. you know someone

43:00

that they a professional that

43:02

they bring into you know lip

43:05

read for lots of different things

43:07

and yeah he said it's on

43:09

now yeah wow like i don't know

43:11

holy shit i will say i

43:13

feel like how pissed he is though

43:15

they try to lock his dad up

43:18

yeah i feel like honestly though I

43:20

don't know what he said. It seems

43:22

pretty accurate. When you watch the video,

43:24

it seems like that's what he said.

43:26

But I feel like you could go

43:28

up to Biden, say any sentence, and

43:30

he would probably have the same reaction.

43:32

Just be like, you hand him a sandwich, and

43:34

you'd be like, I have no idea what

43:37

eyes wide open. Nice suit, dude. And he

43:39

saw. I mean, it's hard to know it.

43:41

How old is barren now? He's got to

43:43

be. Is he 18 yet? I think he's an

43:45

adult. Yeah, I think so. He's in college

43:47

now. I think I remember like the last

43:49

election cycle. He was like 15 or 16

43:51

or so. He was pretty young. He was

43:54

really young and holy hell that he get

43:56

tall fast. Oh yeah. He's giant. What they

43:58

say is six eight. I mean, he. just looks

44:00

huge. You wait till he fills

44:02

out. Geez. That guy's gonna have a

44:05

good chance of being a president in

44:07

the future. Yeah, what's he gonna do?

44:09

I don't know. We'll see if he, uh,

44:11

if he, you know, gets in some trouble

44:14

and fucks up his chances or

44:16

if he stays tight. Well, they've

44:18

already established that, you know, they

44:20

can't find cocaine in the White

44:23

House. They don't, they won't trace it

44:25

back to you, so. If he wants

44:27

to go down that path,

44:30

the door's already open. Good

44:32

old Hunter Biden. All right,

44:34

so Baron is 19 years

44:37

old. 19? Yeah. He was

44:39

born on March 20th. Oh,

44:42

so it was just his

44:44

birthday. Look at that. 19.

44:46

Wow. In college. 19th, 68.

44:49

19 years old and your

44:51

dad is a president. That's

44:53

got to be a mine.

44:55

Nine years ago. Yeah, he would have been

44:58

even younger his whole life is just I

45:00

feel like when you're 10 years old You

45:02

don't really know what's going on like at

45:04

19 you have not a great idea of

45:06

how the world works But you at least

45:09

know what the president is a little bit

45:11

more like you understand a little bit more

45:13

Yeah enough to know like oh shit.

45:15

This is crazy, you know Yeah, but

45:17

what an upbringing to be like thrust

45:20

in the middle of that world and

45:22

especially with what was happening with his

45:24

dad and the courts and trying to

45:27

send him to jail and just all

45:29

of the politics around everything.

45:31

Yeah, intense dude. He better

45:33

buckle down for the next

45:35

one 100%. Joe kind of listed

45:37

a little bit towards the end

45:40

of this podcast just about,

45:42

you know, obviously people now,

45:44

really... So many people label

45:46

Joe as like right wing. Oh yeah.

45:48

Trump on, he's kind of been

45:50

leaning that way, he's frustrated with

45:52

COVID, he couldn't stand. Gavin

45:54

Newsom's approach to things in

45:57

California, he moved to Texas,

45:59

you know. you would say that the

46:01

compass is pointing a little bit

46:04

more that direction. But also, you

46:06

know, you don't throw the baby

46:09

out with the bathwater

46:11

with that. It's like he

46:13

was a Democrat always. He

46:15

has a lot of social, you

46:17

know, income and health care

46:19

and like left wing values

46:21

still, believes in gay marriage,

46:24

you know, abortion things. Big

46:26

on income for the poor,

46:28

like having something, because his

46:31

family used that. He believes

46:33

that should exist. He thinks

46:35

not having social health

46:38

care is not. You know, I'm

46:40

British, so I think the same

46:42

thing. I mean, it is strange

46:44

to not have, and I think

46:46

that there's a place for it.

46:49

America can figure it out with

46:51

that good. Yeah, we can make

46:53

it work. You know, I mean that's a

46:55

lot of what he really believes in.

46:57

So even though there's a few pieces

46:59

that are out, it's almost like the

47:02

left is kicking him out. And the

47:04

left likes to kind of do that, it

47:06

seems. Well, I think nowadays, it's so

47:08

much like, it's gone so divisive that

47:10

like if you're in the middle, like

47:13

say you're like a middle rotor, you're

47:15

like, you're going to be pushed from

47:17

either side. Like the righties are going

47:19

to call you a lefty, the lefties

47:21

are going to call you a righty,

47:23

you know, like, you can't just be

47:26

a moderate anymore. You got to get

47:28

down on your knees and suck the

47:30

party dick a little bit nowadays.

47:32

Right. You know, you got to kind

47:34

of play that game, which sucks. I

47:36

will say, I feel like Joe Rogan's

47:39

still a pretty middle-earth dude, you know,

47:41

whenever you talk to him, pretty center,

47:43

dude. But I do feel like a

47:45

little bit towards the right. Just with

47:47

the whole Trump thing and Elon thing and

47:49

then like him being at the inauguration and

47:51

all that stuff I don't think that he's

47:54

like a far rightist But I do feel

47:56

like he's kind of nudged a little bit

47:58

more to the right at least for sure

48:00

before because I remember like a couple

48:02

years ago when people would ask

48:04

him about like oh would you

48:06

ever have Trump on the podcast

48:08

would you ever have politicians and

48:10

stuff like that he was a

48:12

lot more against it than before

48:14

before than he is now and

48:16

so I think in general him

48:18

as well as Elon they've just

48:20

gotten more involved in politics and

48:22

so people feel like he's not

48:24

outrageous you know He's not a

48:26

radical writer. He's not fucking racist

48:28

or anything like that. Last election,

48:30

he was far more likely to

48:32

vote for Trump than Kamala. I

48:34

don't know who he voted for.

48:37

But saying that in the future,

48:39

when there's other candidates and the

48:41

left actually get someone good, that,

48:43

you know, represents the values that

48:45

are things Joe also believes in,

48:47

when you're more centrist, like there's...

48:49

equal chance that you can go

48:51

back the other side. Yeah and

48:53

I mean he still did have

48:55

a he had a lot of

48:57

more middle-the-road leftist people on the

48:59

podcast like he had Bernie on

49:01

a while ago he had a

49:03

couple other people on the Senator

49:05

Federman yeah he wears like the

49:07

hoodies and looks like he works

49:09

at a gas station yeah that

49:11

guy was pretty good actually I

49:13

liked I like them he seemed

49:15

pretty genuine but I feel like

49:17

it's just more people's them just

49:19

getting more involved in politics. Like

49:21

they used to be like, talk

49:23

about it, give like somewhat what

49:25

they feel, but not actually get

49:27

involved in it. Whereas I feel

49:29

like now they play more of

49:31

an active role in that. Which

49:33

some people don't like, some people

49:35

like, I'm kind of indifferent to

49:37

it. I feel like as long

49:39

as they're moving in a good

49:41

direction, you know, it's all right

49:43

to get involved, but we just

49:45

got to keep things reasonable, you

49:47

know, just don't get crazy. And

49:49

I also think we need to

49:51

start prioritizing the right prioritizing the

49:53

right things. We're arguing about a

49:55

lot of stuff that is kind

49:57

of nonsense. It's like, you know,

50:00

with Elon focusing on trying to

50:02

slow down the national debt, that

50:04

might be a good thing. Like,

50:06

I wish more people would just

50:08

like, yeah, this is kind of

50:10

like nonpartisan, let's work together to

50:12

do this. This seems like a

50:14

really good move for the country

50:16

and for everybody. Another big one

50:18

that Chris and Joe brought up

50:20

on this podcast is the obesity

50:22

problem in the world. Oh, yeah.

50:24

And it's like, we think, I

50:26

don't know what people think. Do

50:28

we think that we're getting healthier?

50:30

No, this is the fattest time

50:32

ever. Yeah. There's a billion obese

50:34

people in the world. That's nuts.

50:36

More obese people than starving people.

50:38

That's wild. The average American, Chris

50:40

said, is like, is fatter than

50:42

pigs. That's wild stat. Yeah, isn't

50:44

it like, almost 50% of people

50:46

are like obese by some metric?

50:48

It's a lot. He said something

50:50

about by 2030, like half the

50:52

kids or more than half will

50:54

be. Oh yeah. That's always the

50:56

saddest, you know, whenever you just

50:58

see some... I used to work

51:00

at a grocery store when I

51:02

was in high school. And I

51:04

realize like super soon into it,

51:06

like you can easily tell what

51:08

people are looking like just based

51:10

on their grocery cart. Like someone

51:12

pulled their grocery cart forward, you

51:14

see like a bunch of frozen

51:16

food and snacks and candies and

51:18

cookies and you're like this person

51:21

can be 500 pounds. And sure

51:23

enough they were. And then their

51:25

kids, they're like five year old

51:27

kid is also obese. You're like,

51:29

how does that even happen? That's

51:31

terrible. Well the sodas they buy

51:33

dude. Oh my God. There was

51:35

this. Four to six, 12 packs

51:37

of diet Coke every Sunday. Wow.

51:39

And he had, he had one

51:41

of the electric carts. He wasn't

51:43

actually overweight, which was the crazy

51:45

part. He was just kind of

51:47

an older man who was like

51:49

slow to move around. Yeah, it

51:51

was a little better. But yeah,

51:53

I would always help him move

51:55

it to his car and it

51:57

was like every week, four of

51:59

them at least. And I was

52:01

like, damn, that's, that's terrible. Yeah.

52:03

I mean, when I was in

52:05

England. growing up I just thought

52:07

like sodas were for kids I

52:09

didn't know many adults that would

52:11

have sodas like cokes and whatever

52:13

and then I when I did

52:15

move to America in the mid-90s

52:17

I mean it was just a

52:19

whole different thing it was just

52:21

like yeah everyone's just it's like

52:23

don't drink water anymore have a

52:25

soda yeah everyone I mean it's

52:27

delicious I get it yeah but

52:29

also there was there was something

52:31

missing there was something different and

52:33

it was like allowed and okay

52:35

and so should be fine. And

52:37

when you make room like that,

52:39

it's a bad setup. I mean,

52:42

look, people give Whole Foods some

52:44

shit because it's so expensive. And

52:46

not everyone can afford to get

52:48

food there and etc. And I

52:50

totally get that. It is expensive.

52:52

But when I was there the

52:54

other day, here in Bozeman, everyone

52:56

in the store was skinny. Oh

52:58

yeah. Skinny or in shape? There

53:00

were no, there wasn't one person

53:02

that I would say was a

53:04

fat person in there. Usually go

53:06

to Walmart. That's not a coincidence.

53:08

The opposite. The opposite. But I

53:10

will say, I feel like in

53:12

Bozeman because we're so much of

53:14

an outdoorsy active town, it is

53:16

a little bit skewed. Like I

53:18

feel like we have a lot

53:20

less fat people in Bozeman. It's

53:22

probably true. Because whenever I go

53:24

down to Florida or Tennessee to

53:26

see my family, it's like the

53:28

opposite, it's like a big. switch

53:30

flips. I've never seen a, well

53:32

I don't want to say I

53:34

never, overweight people, even at their

53:36

whole food, but it still told

53:38

me something. I mean, you know,

53:40

I go to the other grocery

53:42

stores here, that's not the case.

53:44

Yeah, they're just different sizes of

53:46

people and it does go back

53:48

to what you're saying. Like the

53:50

people spending a long time in

53:52

the fruits and vegetables section, don't

53:54

look like the people that are

53:56

going up and down the cereal.

53:58

Yeah. I've never seen a never,

54:00

but. It's more likely that you'll

54:03

see like a really skinny person

54:05

looking at the ingredients than you

54:07

will a fat person. Like I

54:09

never see a fat person being

54:11

like, let me check what ingredients

54:13

are in this. You know, they

54:15

don't give a shit. They're looking

54:17

at the bright picture on the

54:19

front. And they're like, look how

54:21

happy that leprechorn is. Like how

54:23

many servings can I eat before

54:25

I feel ashamed of myself? I

54:27

know it's sad though. It really

54:29

is. It's like one thing that

54:31

I wish we would focus on.

54:33

I hope RFK can do it

54:35

and make a bit of a

54:37

shift and just highlight what is

54:39

bad. You know, I'm sure as

54:41

soon as Trump is out, it's

54:43

going to go back to the

54:45

way it was before, where they've

54:47

just got that crappy. food pyramid

54:49

no one's making a big fuss

54:51

about it and everyone's just like

54:53

well yeah just kind of cut

54:55

out sugar if you can but

54:57

there's like no this is terrible

54:59

for you class you know yeah

55:01

they like really show kids this

55:03

is what happens if you keep

55:05

eating like this yeah and it's

55:07

sad too because a lot of

55:09

it is like you know you

55:11

see overweight parents and then their

55:13

kids are overweight and then they

55:15

grow up overweight And then they've

55:17

really never spent any of their

55:19

life skinny, you know, just because

55:21

of the way that they were

55:24

raised, like the parents have a

55:26

terrible diet, they get born, they

55:28

also accrue a terrible diet, gain

55:30

a bunch of weight, and the

55:32

cycle continues. Yeah. And it's really

55:34

hard to break out of that

55:36

when you've been doing that your

55:38

whole life as well. Yeah, for

55:40

sure. It's not impossible. It's just

55:42

hard. Mm-hmm. Let's finish up with

55:44

the unkillable soldiers. World War II

55:46

and meth. It's a meth-powered war.

55:48

Oh yeah. Well, I think if

55:50

they were talking about World War

55:52

I, but I'm sure it was

55:54

two as well, yeah. But if

55:56

they didn't invent that drug, do

55:58

you think maybe those two wars

56:00

wouldn't have happened? They wouldn't have

56:02

been as successful, would not have

56:04

been the same without it. Right.

56:06

He had a ton of math

56:08

which they gave to all the

56:10

soldiers. 30 person supply? Yeah. this

56:12

pocket that somehow melted or got

56:14

into a system somehow. How does

56:16

that even work? I don't know.

56:18

Just melts into his leg. Well

56:20

I'm sure you've heard stories of

56:22

people who go through they'll like

56:24

put drugs up their butt for

56:26

security and then the bag breaks

56:28

or something and then it like

56:30

goes into their system through their

56:32

butt and they just get like

56:34

they overdose on whatever it is

56:36

because... their little baggy broke in

56:38

their butt hole and now they

56:40

have a bunch of drugs right

56:42

going through their system maybe I

56:45

don't know if it was up

56:47

his butt hopefully not 30 people's

56:49

supply of drugs is probably too

56:51

much to go for butt but

56:53

so somehow got into a system

56:55

he basically lost his mind took

56:57

off skiing skied like 60 miles

56:59

kind of blacked out didn't know

57:01

where he was woke up burned

57:03

the cabin down hallucinated a bunch,

57:05

kept thinking he was getting attacked

57:07

by Russians and Wolverines and the

57:09

rest of it, got blown up,

57:11

landmined, and then blown up another

57:13

time with a door. Blown up

57:15

twice. He lost, but he had

57:17

traveled like hundreds of miles, he

57:19

weighed 90 pounds. By the time

57:21

they go to... 14 days. Yeah,

57:23

he went from whatever his starting

57:25

weight was, I didn't say, but

57:27

he lost all of it in

57:29

14 days. Well, think of the

57:31

calories he would have been. I

57:33

know, fuck, it was epic. People

57:35

ought to do that. Just 14-day

57:37

meth binge. Russian wilderness. Landmines. Landmines.

57:39

Turns out. Incredible. And he still

57:41

lived to like 80. Yeah. Those

57:43

stories are fascinating. I do like

57:45

that. Chris brings those on and

57:47

it's like weirdly inspired by that

57:49

while I was listening to it

57:51

and I said it to you

57:53

while we were listening I was

57:55

like I would have given up

57:57

immediately yeah as soon as I

57:59

was 10 miles into the scheme

58:01

but I'd be like I don't

58:03

know what I'm doing I'm fucked

58:06

yeah I have no ability to

58:08

survive this that's that meth though

58:10

son there gets you gets it

58:12

going It's a hell of a

58:14

drug. You're like, I don't fucking

58:16

know where I'm going, but I'm

58:18

gonna keep going. That's crazy. Loved

58:20

it. Well, thanks, Sean for today.

58:22

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