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good old Sean seems to be a

1:35

weekly thing now welcome back Sean

1:37

I'm roping you for having me

1:39

I'm roping you back in I

1:41

feel like I'm always the like

1:43

heavy hitting like deep podcast

1:46

I never get like a comedian or anything

1:48

no can we just make a bunch of

1:50

gay jokes and Have fun. Why do we

1:53

always have to talk about government conspiracy theories?

1:55

I need, I need a real think of

1:57

though. This is your fault. You read too

1:59

many books. books? Not really. I've convinced

2:01

you. You're more of a cliff

2:03

notes guy? Yeah, spark notes. Is

2:06

that the new? No, if anyone

2:08

is actually getting their information from

2:10

spark notes and is not like

2:12

doing it to cheat on a

2:14

test, you need to reevaluate your

2:16

life. Is it true? YouTube documentary

2:18

has more information than spark notes

2:20

in a book will give you.

2:23

Yeah, you can't bullet point a

2:25

book. Maybe you can't. Maybe you

2:27

can't. Talking about bullet pointing, quick

2:29

disclaimer for this one. We are

2:31

reviewing... Is this the first disclaimer

2:33

we've had on the show? Yeah.

2:35

This one's kind of a fake

2:37

bullshit disclaimer, but I wanted to

2:39

throw it in there because we're

2:42

doing Dr. Suzanne Humphreys. And here's

2:44

the thing. My family will listen

2:46

to this and they'll be like,

2:48

are you an anti-vaccic now? And

2:50

I just can't have those conversations.

2:52

Let's just say I'm a bit

2:54

of one in some area. Okay,

2:56

certain ones I don't like. I

2:58

don't like the COVID vaccine. Does

3:01

that make me a anti-vaxa? Maybe.

3:03

I mean, if you're against one,

3:05

how many do you need to

3:07

be against? But listen, the disclaimer

3:09

is this. Before we jump in,

3:11

okay, I'm not endorsing or saying

3:13

we totally agree with any of

3:15

these things that are being said.

3:18

We're riffing, you know, we review,

3:20

we're chewing on the discussion. We're

3:22

just thinking about points and adding

3:24

them into the total info of

3:26

our lives, right? So as we

3:28

go along, and this is how

3:30

I do all of the reviews,

3:32

and I get a lot of

3:34

criticism for it, people be like,

3:37

I can't believe that you agree

3:39

with that. And I'm like, I'm

3:41

reviewing the thing that was said

3:43

and saying, oh, if that's true,

3:45

wouldn't that be wild? Yeah. Doesn't

3:47

mean I go away. And I'm

3:49

like, we didn't go to the

3:51

moon then. I didn't necessarily agree

3:53

with that. But he brought up

3:56

some stuff that was like interesting

3:58

to think about. Yeah. It's okay.

4:00

So, you know, the haters are,

4:02

there's a welcome space for them.

4:04

Yeah, just to be clear, none

4:06

of our names start with Doctor.

4:08

That is not on any government

4:10

document you will find about any

4:13

of us. So, oh yeah, we

4:15

cannot be trusted. Do not take

4:17

medical advice from this episode of

4:19

the podcast. That being said, though,

4:21

there is a lot of doubt,

4:23

I feel. Yeah. Have you ever

4:25

heard of a book, Dissolving Illusions?

4:27

Maybe I've heard of the name

4:29

of it. Yeah. I own it.

4:32

I own it. Oh really? It's

4:34

good. Who wrote that one? Was

4:36

that her book? Oh okay. Yeah,

4:38

it came out a while ago.

4:40

This was all pre-covered stuff, right?

4:42

Yeah, it's like 2013, I think.

4:44

Yeah, that's early on. I got

4:46

it, I first heard about it

4:48

maybe 2017, and it was, you

4:51

know, before any COVID stuff. So

4:53

it was like fascinating to read,

4:55

but... It is interesting to hear

4:57

about all these things. Obviously since

4:59

COVID, you know, things have changed

5:01

a little bit, but I mean,

5:03

the book is, the book is

5:05

really interesting. I recommend people check

5:08

it out if you're kind of

5:10

curious about these sorts of things.

5:12

When you read the book, was

5:14

that like the first time that

5:16

you like thought more about this

5:18

topic and like put a little

5:20

bit of doubt in your mind

5:22

or did you kind of go

5:24

in reading it being like? Like

5:27

what was your initial impression after

5:29

reading the book of honestly how

5:31

did it change your perception of

5:33

yeah so honestly this isn't like

5:35

the first book or thing that

5:37

I watched or read that you

5:39

know goes against the zeitgeist of

5:41

what's happening you know it's yeah

5:44

I've always been into like off

5:46

the wall kind of wacky ideas

5:48

for things especially when it comes

5:50

to health like I've always liked

5:52

reading books that were like you

5:54

need to just eat potatoes and

5:56

it's like all right easy British

5:58

book and it's like some wild

6:00

diet that you ever heard of

6:03

pen and teller the magicians they

6:05

do like a lot of illusion

6:07

things with a bigger guy he

6:09

did this diet was just potatoes

6:11

that he knew of from this

6:13

guy he lost a lot of

6:15

weight did it make him disappear

6:17

no he just got thinner oh

6:19

and almost I think that the

6:22

diet is probably whack but it

6:24

worked for him My point is,

6:26

like I would read those types

6:28

of books. I mean, you know,

6:30

I just read enough to where

6:32

I'm like, oh, that could be

6:34

interesting. This one seemed interesting because

6:36

it went against so much of

6:39

what I thought to be true

6:41

for medical science. And while I'm

6:43

reading it, it's like logical. I'm

6:45

like, yeah, yeah. Also, I had

6:47

had all those vaccines because I

6:49

was an adult. Yeah. I wasn't

6:51

thinking about having kids. I wasn't

6:53

in a place where I was

6:55

like really questioning. But it just

6:58

kind of gave me a broader

7:00

idea of like before that book,

7:02

I took them all for granted

7:04

like they work 100% they're the

7:06

best science. I just kind of

7:08

threw them in the same category

7:10

as like, yeah, taking ibuprofen does

7:12

help with information, but if you

7:14

take enough of it, you liver

7:17

will collapse. So they're not good

7:19

as well. It just kind of

7:21

went there. It just kind of

7:23

told me that there's nothing that's

7:25

actually perfect in medical science, which

7:27

is reasonable, I think. I think

7:29

that's a trap that you don't

7:31

want to get in. We always

7:34

want to be questioning what we're

7:36

taking and what's going on. Yeah,

7:38

I agree. And I feel like

7:40

of all the conspiratorial, whatever, put

7:42

them all in one box topics,

7:44

the vaccine one is definitely the

7:46

one that people push back on

7:48

the most or at least have

7:50

the most resistance to share the

7:53

other side about and I mean

7:55

I feel that as well like

7:57

when I I mean by a

7:59

long way though no Nobody defends

8:01

drugs in general. Maybe antibiotics, people

8:04

will defend. But you're

8:06

right, vaccines are like the

8:08

king of the hill for that. Yeah. Because

8:10

like, yeah, when you ask people like,

8:12

what do you think about vaccines?

8:14

Like, oh, it's the greatest creation of

8:16

all time. Like that's how we're

8:18

able to not collapse as a

8:20

society. Like that's why we don't

8:22

have the plague anymore and stuff

8:24

like that. And, um, I think that's

8:26

maybe some of that is true. The

8:29

whole idea that vaccines are good regardless,

8:31

like just blindly accepting them, taking all

8:33

of them, I think that with any

8:35

topic, you know, you should always go

8:37

into it, trying to learn a little

8:40

bit more about it. Like that was

8:42

the thing with COVID that I didn't

8:44

really like, it was so pushed upon that

8:46

you must get the vaccine, you must

8:48

get the vaccine, but there wasn't a

8:50

whole lot of explanation of like what

8:53

it's doing, why it's doing that. like

8:55

how this is going to affect us.

8:57

And also, the one that kind of

8:59

messed with me was people were getting

9:01

vaccines and they were still transmitting

9:03

the disease, they were still getting

9:05

the disease. It's like, isn't that

9:07

supposed to be the whole point

9:09

of the vaccine is not to reduce

9:11

the spread of this? You know, like

9:14

if you've already got COVID and you

9:16

have the antibodies and it didn't get

9:18

you sick, why do you still need

9:20

the vaccine? That was my thinking. I

9:22

only got the first one. Like I

9:24

don't I don't I don't I didn't

9:26

have a confirmed case of COVID I

9:29

might have got it at some point

9:31

if I did it was probably asymptomatic

9:33

I don't remember getting sick during

9:35

COVID times but I was like if

9:37

I'm fine I don't need to take

9:39

the vaccine you know yeah like my body

9:42

can fight this off you weren't allowed

9:44

to think that like if you

9:46

talked about that openly at certain

9:48

times Even some of your closest

9:50

allies and friends would be like

9:52

you're a piece of shit Sean.

9:54

Oh, yeah, it was programmed I

9:56

feel like I played it smart

9:58

though, because I got the first

10:01

one so whenever people would ask

10:03

me oh did you get the

10:05

vaccine I'd be like yeah I

10:07

got it and then whenever people

10:09

will be like the opposite side

10:11

would be like oh did you

10:13

get the cove vaccine he'd be

10:15

like yeah but I just got

10:18

the first one you know like

10:20

I kind of played in both

10:22

sides of it you just you

10:24

just but deep down I was

10:26

skeptical I was super skeptical yeah

10:28

I mean the whole kind of

10:30

thing in her book and she

10:33

alludes to this like with a

10:35

lot of what she talks about

10:37

in the vaccines throughout history have

10:39

saved us. It's the sanitation, clean

10:41

water, better food. They did it,

10:43

right? And this is when no

10:45

publisher would touch a book. They

10:47

were like, nah, nah, nah, no

10:50

chance. So they self-published. And through

10:52

that process, sold a lot of

10:54

books. And then eventually the publishers

10:56

came back and said, hey, yeah,

10:58

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12:10

she was like fuck off no

12:13

yeah but you know but you

12:15

brought up a great point it's

12:17

like when do you have a

12:19

look at a book and you're

12:21

like wait who published this yeah

12:23

this is an 1860 No one

12:25

cares about who the publisher is.

12:27

If it's self-published and it's maybe

12:30

like talking about flat earth, well

12:32

that's on you. But otherwise, it's

12:34

like, well, they figured out how

12:36

to publish it. I'll read it.

12:38

Yeah, I don't think you need

12:40

to have like the legitimacy of

12:42

a publisher to make your book

12:45

like factual or anything. But if

12:47

you're trying to, I mean, good

12:49

for her for being able to

12:51

self-pubish and get it out there,

12:53

but I know for a lot

12:55

of writers. that path is like

12:57

basically zero percent chance that that's

12:59

going to work out for most

13:02

writers it is extremely hard even

13:04

to get publishers to be interested

13:06

in your topic and then if

13:08

you're like oh I'm gonna like

13:10

go away from the publishers can

13:12

do it on my own it's

13:14

like no one's gonna buy your

13:16

book most of the time it's

13:19

very low probability that people buy

13:21

a book even if you do

13:23

get published like the percent of

13:25

books that actually get read versus

13:27

the amount that go into print

13:29

is hugely skewed. Well, especially because

13:31

things like the New York Times,

13:33

is it the New York Times

13:36

publisher? The best seller? Yeah, it's

13:38

all bullshit. Oh, yeah. Like they

13:40

basically buy their way on there.

13:42

Oh, yeah. And that was highlighted

13:44

with RFK in his book, the

13:46

real Anthony Fauci, that was a

13:48

top seller, but never listed on

13:51

there. Yeah, because they didn't like

13:53

the topic. We can't promote this

13:55

topic. We don't like this. Yeah.

13:57

It's like, okay. Isn't the idea

13:59

of like quote unquote burning the

14:01

books all about this like dangerous

14:03

censorship, you know, dystopian future? Yet,

14:05

isn't it similar if you control

14:08

the fucking list of popular books?

14:10

Yeah, I mean, those are the

14:12

ones that people pay attention to.

14:14

But think about it. That would

14:16

be the same as if Apple

14:18

Podcast or Spotify just went, oh,

14:20

well, Joe Rogan's number one, but

14:22

we just don't put him on

14:25

the list. Yeah. Because we don't

14:27

like the things he talks about.

14:29

That's a massive disservice. Because if

14:31

it's very popular with people. Other

14:33

people should know that's why things

14:35

get five-star reviews. That's why ratings

14:37

exist. That's why Yelp exists. Yeah.

14:39

It's like how else do you

14:42

know that this piece of shitty

14:44

furniture that you're buying from Amazon

14:46

is any good unless you look

14:48

at the reviews? Yeah. It's the

14:50

same thing that like the Academy

14:52

Awards do. You know, it's like

14:54

supposed to be this like the

14:57

vote people bring in the vote

14:59

for the Grammys. And it's like

15:01

the vote is fake as fake

15:03

as fake as fuck. It's like

15:05

they do the same thing. They

15:07

pick who they want to promote.

15:09

They pick who they have like

15:11

contracts with like 100% the fact

15:14

that Predator didn't win any Predator

15:16

won with Arnold Schwarzenegger didn't win

15:18

an Academy Award for most bad-ass

15:20

movie of all time. Yeah. Ever

15:22

since then. Or like, I knew

15:24

it was a sham. There's rumors

15:26

that Jay's basically paid for that.

15:28

Oh, no, it is. It's it's

15:31

it's confirmed pretty much because 50

15:33

cent talks about this. Once they

15:35

signed that like marriage, once they

15:37

signed that marriage agreement, they started

15:39

getting all the Grammys. They have

15:41

like 20 something Grammys between the

15:43

two of them. And it was

15:45

after they signed this like marriage

15:48

agreement and basically bought their way

15:50

into the. establishment yeah that they

15:52

started getting all these awards but

15:54

there's so many artists that talk

15:56

about how fake the Grammys are

15:58

right all of those quick shout

16:00

out to 50 cent for being

16:03

an absolute legend he is a

16:05

legend it's it He's almost like

16:07

the Alex Jones of Rapping. It

16:09

takes a while before you're like,

16:11

wait, what? Epstein Island is real?

16:13

It takes a while for some

16:15

of his prophecies. My favorite one

16:17

is when one of the talk

16:20

show hosts or whatever it is

16:22

was talking about like how much

16:24

money 50 cent has. And he

16:26

like totally plays into it. But

16:28

he's like, you have a lot

16:30

of money too. Like I don't

16:32

remember which one of the. Stupid

16:34

comedians are doing those shows now,

16:37

but it was one of them

16:39

and It wasn't any of the

16:41

kimbles. It was one of the

16:43

other guys I can't remember one

16:45

of the annoying ones Cold bear.

16:47

Yeah, it was cold bear And

16:49

he's like you've been on TV

16:51

for how many seasons? It's like

16:54

over ten seasons. He's like you

16:56

have a lot of money too.

16:58

This is big money like don't

17:00

act like you're amongst the people

17:02

like you have just as much

17:04

money as I do a motherf

17:06

I love it. I love it.

17:09

I absolutely love it. Next up,

17:11

vaccine trials. This is always a

17:13

big thing. And it's kind of

17:15

contentious because it's like, you know,

17:17

they still did their trials. The

17:19

trials are good. It's like the

17:21

discussions I've had with people where

17:23

I like I was going like,

17:26

well, how do we know they

17:28

did? Like, well, we just got

17:30

to believe them. The scientists did

17:32

that they did all the trials.

17:34

I'm like, did they. Where does

17:36

it say that? How can we

17:38

be sure? Are we allowed to

17:40

ask? That's where it got weird.

17:43

And, you know, Suzanne, Dr. Humphreys,

17:45

sorry, respect, was like, well, she

17:47

went hard on those trials and

17:49

said, they're not scientific, and they're

17:51

just getting worse, which is a

17:53

bold statement, right? No saline placebos,

17:55

just vaccines on vaccine tests, hiding

17:57

like the real risks, and then,

18:00

you know, You know, she kind

18:02

of talks about the aluminum in

18:04

there, Mercury, she calls

18:06

out Pfizer. Only 252 people

18:08

got the Ecoli version, which

18:10

is like how they made it

18:13

before billions of people

18:15

did. Really? They did a whole

18:17

trial on 250 people? Seems

18:20

like a small group. What

18:22

were they doing it in

18:24

Bozeman? Yeah. Like, get some

18:26

more people. Well, there

18:28

was a lot of the same stuff

18:31

that RFK was talking about when he

18:33

went on Rogan a while ago and

18:35

when he started being really popular way

18:38

before the presidency. During COVID, actually, he

18:40

was talking about how the COVID tests

18:42

and the trials that they were doing

18:45

were not regulated correctly and they

18:47

were misinforming people on the actual

18:49

results and like moving goalposts to

18:51

make themselves seem like it was

18:53

all accurate. That was kind of the

18:55

start, or at least for me, of what

18:58

put the idea that like the medical industry

19:00

does not have our best interest at heart,

19:02

at least not fully. There's a lot of

19:04

fucked up shit going on there. And a

19:07

lot of it, especially these big pharmaceutical companies,

19:09

are just so greedy, so money hungry. Like

19:11

that's what a lot of it is. Well you

19:13

could imagine that, you know, because

19:16

there's so many levels to it,

19:18

right? It's like the people doing

19:20

the actual science. Often it's very

19:22

specialized, so it's all divided up.

19:24

Like you're doing enzymes, you're doing

19:26

this one, you're doing like,

19:28

you know, like pill production, something

19:31

like that. Like you're gaining

19:33

this kind of ketone for this

19:35

molecule that we're then

19:37

going to change into this

19:39

racemic index of some other

19:41

compound, and then they make

19:43

the pharmaceutical. All those people

19:45

are that level. even within

19:48

the system that they work

19:50

in, can be like pumped

19:52

up, motivated, educated with this

19:55

whole PowerPoint of we're helping

19:57

people, it's about saving lives.

19:59

about this and that. Yet at

20:01

a different level, there's like the sales

20:04

team, the marketing team, the PR team,

20:06

how they get the message out, you

20:08

know, the lobbyists that deal with government

20:10

and they're like, well, we need to

20:13

make sure that we can't be sued

20:15

for these things because they represent the

20:17

company. So it's not like everyone together

20:19

is this evil type of individual that's

20:21

just like, oh yeah, we're just in

20:24

it for money. I'm sure there are.

20:26

plenty of levels of people really doing

20:28

their best. But ultimately it seems like

20:30

as a whole, when you're looking at

20:32

the picture, it's like a massive money

20:35

maker. They hope it works, but the

20:37

technology just isn't there. They don't really

20:39

do it well. And then there's this

20:41

whole back end where you can't sue

20:43

them. Oh yeah, that's the scary part

20:46

is when they pay for immunity and

20:48

stuff like that. That's scary. But yeah,

20:50

I mean you bring up a good

20:52

point is like, I think this is

20:55

true with a lot of the corrupt

20:57

organizations that are out there is you

20:59

have a lot of people working on

21:01

the ground level that are decent good

21:03

people that are actually trying to help

21:06

people and you know. doing it for

21:08

the good of their heart like they're

21:10

genuinely good people but the overall direction

21:12

that the company is moving and the

21:14

message and everything like that is so

21:17

skewed and they're moving in the complete

21:19

opposite direction but the people working on

21:21

those levels like the lower levels don't

21:23

understand fully what's going on and So

21:26

but it's not their fault, you

21:29

know, I'm saying like it's not

21:31

fair to get mad at them

21:33

Yeah, you got to get mad

21:36

at the people who are in

21:38

control people are actually moving the

21:40

chess pieces and pushing things in

21:43

certain directions, right? The woman that

21:45

works at the DMV is a

21:47

bitch just because she's getting underpaid

21:49

and her life sucks But that

21:52

doesn't mean that everyone in the

21:54

government is a kind like there

21:56

are a lot of good people

21:59

in government and there are a

22:01

lot of like people who are

22:03

actually doing good things. It's just

22:06

the overall organization is moving in

22:08

a direction like the people who

22:10

are pulling the strings are the

22:13

ones to blame and those people

22:15

are always No one knows they

22:17

are. No one knows. And they

22:20

have immunity too. Yeah. Right. So

22:22

here's a mind-blower. So Dr. Humphrey

22:24

says that arsenic poisoning is like

22:26

mimics the polio's neurological damage, like

22:29

paralysis and neuropathy. Right. So this

22:31

one, it was like, it's a

22:33

tough cell. It's like conspiracy level

22:36

things. But let's just assume that.

22:38

She has looked at this, the

22:40

research made sense, and I don't

22:43

know how she could go down

22:45

a path of just like making

22:47

this up. Like that's where I

22:50

question it. But it's like DDT

22:52

and materials to think livestock and

22:54

those dips that they had in

22:57

the 40s. So she's arguing that

22:59

tons of polio cases were misdiagnosed.

23:01

Not viruses. Tons of toxins. So

23:03

once the vaccines rolled out, they

23:06

relabeled the leftovers of some sort

23:08

of thing, and then they cut

23:10

the toxins. Yeah. Like, yeah, that

23:13

sounds super conspiratorial, but like, I

23:15

don't know, how do you even

23:17

check that that could be true,

23:20

other than like, oh, I take,

23:22

I believe her, I'll take her

23:24

word for it. Yeah. It's tough,

23:27

like even, yeah, I really wonder

23:29

how she went about doing all

23:31

this research and I'm curious where

23:34

the information is coming from because

23:36

you look into these things like

23:38

even just Google Search or anyone

23:40

talking point and all the results

23:43

you see are pro, pro vaccine,

23:45

pro everything. It's very hard to

23:47

find not pro information, which maybe

23:50

it's because it's good. Well, but

23:52

maybe there's maybe there's that but

23:54

also we got to believe that's

23:57

the that's the hard part about

23:59

this is And that's what makes

24:01

it confusing for the average listener

24:04

or just people who are curious

24:06

is it's very hard to do

24:08

research on your own and figure

24:11

it out like you're in the

24:13

doctor doctor's office they give you

24:15

three choices of what you're about

24:17

to do to whoever like you

24:20

got to get this vaccine and

24:22

you're like trying to look up

24:24

this shit on your phone it's

24:27

like good luck dude right this

24:29

woman spent how long did she

24:31

spend in she was living in

24:34

her what was it a tent

24:36

yeah a tent doing research for

24:38

years like that's that's hardcore and

24:41

she knew people would shit on

24:43

her, like here's the thing, if

24:45

she sounded or seemed, and like

24:48

you can't understand someone just from

24:50

a few hours of an interview,

24:52

but like there are actually recluse

24:54

people out there, they have a

24:57

type of way about them, it

24:59

doesn't take long to figure out

25:01

who are recluses are, they're often

25:04

introverts and kind of withdrawn, and...

25:06

skeptical of humanity as a whole.

25:08

There's also people that are self-destructive

25:11

that exist. The kind of people

25:13

that would write a book that

25:15

are like happily will get them

25:18

a ton of attention even though

25:20

they know there's a lot of

25:22

hate behind it and people discredit

25:25

them. She doesn't seem to fit

25:27

any of those. Psychologies to me.

25:29

So then I'm thinking, well, why

25:31

would you spend this time? doing

25:34

this, knowing that this is going

25:36

to hit so hard, unless you

25:38

were really seeing some things lining

25:41

up. Yeah. Like, the difficult question

25:43

there is like, how good of

25:45

a researcher is she, you know,

25:48

comparatively? And at the same time,

25:50

it's like kind of logical, and

25:52

this is why I think so.

25:55

I don't know how they diagnose

25:57

things for polio in the past.

25:59

I don't even know much about

26:02

polio, right? I've seen a couple

26:04

of people that, you know... years

26:06

ago suffered from it and still

26:08

have like an arm that's all

26:11

fucked up or like it was

26:13

bad. However, well ironically there were

26:15

ranchers as well which really lined

26:18

up with what she was saying

26:20

but that could just be a

26:22

coincidence. But then I also know

26:25

how they were diagnosing COVID and

26:27

especially COVID deaths during COVID. Yeah.

26:29

Remember when they were signing almost

26:32

every type of thing. and hospitals

26:34

were incentivized to be like that

26:36

was a COVID death. Yeah, these

26:39

old people died at COVID. Yeah,

26:41

because of more people, if you

26:43

could report more people died from

26:45

COVID in your hospital, you were

26:48

granted more funding. Yeah. So it

26:50

does kind of line up for

26:52

that reason. It's like, well, it

26:55

would make sense that in the

26:57

40s, diagnosing what is polio, especially

26:59

if people are getting this like.

27:02

arsenic poisoning at the same time

27:04

or whatever was, was it, it

27:06

was arsenic, right? Yeah. If that

27:09

was what was poisoning them as

27:11

well, and the signs were very

27:13

similar, because every diagnosis is not

27:15

the same, it's not like they

27:18

have a special tool like on.

27:20

Yeah, it's back in the fucking

27:22

40s and 50s. Yeah, where they

27:25

like scan your body and it's

27:27

like, oh, polio. They got to

27:29

like guess stuff. They're like, oh,

27:32

your body's not working on the

27:34

left side? Probably polio. So we

27:36

need to make a vaccine. And

27:39

then they clean up certain things.

27:41

I mean, she did say something

27:43

like three. So lifespan is increased.

27:46

And we often assign that to

27:48

like modern medicine. Like, oh, we

27:50

live way longer because of this.

27:52

And she's saying that through studies.

27:55

that it's actually only 3.5% of

27:57

that is attributed to modern medicine.

28:00

The rest of it is like clean

28:02

water, better food, more access

28:04

to food. You know, it's like

28:06

people used to drink fucking puddle

28:08

water not long ago. Oh yeah.

28:11

That's bad. Shitting in the

28:13

streets. Yeah, it's just wearing you

28:15

out. It's just wearing your immune

28:18

system like slowly just, you know.

28:20

One of the things that I

28:22

liked about her was, uh, she... made

28:25

an insistence a lot of times on

28:27

the importance of nutrition and just general

28:29

health things. I feel like a lot

28:32

of medical professionals miss this a lot

28:34

of times or it's a later conversation

28:36

of like, oh, you're having this and

28:38

that issues, you need to have some

28:41

sort of medication or you didn't get

28:43

this whatever shot or something like

28:45

that. But a lot of, especially during

28:47

COVID, I mean, this was incredibly obvious

28:50

was the amount of time, like no

28:52

one was saying that during COVID. of

28:54

like, hey, let's work on your diet

28:56

or let's work on some exercise or

28:59

whatever it is. You know, there was

29:01

never that conversation. It was always like,

29:03

did you get the vaccine? Are you

29:05

taking your whatever pills they're

29:07

prescribing or whatever it

29:09

is? It's, and I feel like a lot

29:12

of the medical industry suffers from this a

29:14

lot, and I felt this a lot as

29:16

a kid. is it's not like hey can

29:18

we work on these problems from a

29:20

behavioral side of things or let's look

29:22

at your lifestyle or health or you

29:24

know your diet stuff like that it's

29:26

like oh there's a chemical imbalance we

29:28

have to fix this with medicine you

29:31

know yeah there's never the discussion of

29:33

how is your general health overall

29:35

are you eating enough vegetables are

29:37

you exercising are you sleeping enough

29:39

like there's never that conversation That's

29:42

a good question and in a while

29:44

a good thing to think about because

29:46

at the beginning of COVID and I

29:48

don't know if if like the younger

29:50

generation how will be you when COVID

29:52

started? I just graduated high school. Geez.

29:54

So yeah. Yeah I was 18 years

29:57

old. Just in a lot of ways starting

29:59

life. Oh yeah. I with

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34:02

room and I worked out like a normal

34:04

amount before that, you know, a few times

34:07

a week, just, you know, keep your

34:09

body together. I mean, I was 38 or

34:11

nine at the time, close to that, so

34:13

I was like, yeah, you got to work

34:15

out, otherwise you just fall apart. But I

34:17

had this kettle bell and every time I

34:20

walked past it, whether I went to the

34:22

restroom or just had to go through my

34:24

living room, I would do a kettleble

34:27

set. Oh there you go. Well it

34:29

started being like 100 plus kettle bell

34:31

swings a day and I just started

34:33

getting great shape and I was like

34:35

oh this seems like the way and

34:37

like what type of nutrients are you

34:39

taking all the rest of it? However that

34:41

was not what they were saying on the

34:43

news. That was not what they were

34:45

saying on TV. There was nothing, no

34:47

talk of that at all. Even taking

34:49

vitamins, no one said shit about that.

34:52

and vitamin D was a

34:54

big one and that's very

34:56

cheap. Yeah, and they can

34:58

get you zinc and vitamin

35:01

D for the trillions that

35:03

that costs the US economy.

35:05

They could have sent packages

35:08

of supplements and vitamins

35:10

and well, same thing, but

35:12

also probably even meals

35:14

to people. Oh yeah. You know, like

35:17

low sugar healthy meals. I

35:19

mean. You know, so it isn't even

35:21

like a cost thing. There was some

35:23

other motivation there and it was

35:25

just the kind of like it

35:28

seemed to just throw us towards

35:30

this idea that nothing else will

35:32

help Except isolating yourself, which

35:34

is the most depressing thing

35:37

a human can do. Yeah,

35:39

it's like the biggest punishment

35:41

they give you in prison and

35:43

you're already in prison. Yeah,

35:45

and then take this vaccine

35:47

That it turns out they tested

35:50

on 250 people before they gave

35:52

it the billions. Yeah Well, that's

35:54

the thing too with the whole

35:56

vaccine one is There's like no

35:58

gray area. It's like you have to

36:00

take the vaccines. And it's crazy

36:03

too, like even just from

36:05

a business perspective, like forget the

36:07

fact that it's a drug, if

36:10

you somehow convince everyone in the

36:12

world from birth that they need

36:15

to take something and it's

36:17

a requirement, and if you don't,

36:19

you'll be chastised and call the

36:21

anti-vaxor and lose your job

36:23

or whatever else comes with that.

36:26

Yeah. Like that would be crazy.

36:28

The amount of control that

36:30

you have is insane to do

36:33

that. I mean you could imagine

36:35

a world where if that

36:37

was never questioned it would be

36:39

like 50 times a year. You

36:42

gotta go in for your jabs.

36:44

I know so many people that

36:47

would go in and get

36:49

their boosters all the time and

36:51

they were so proud of it.

36:53

Yeah, yeah, it's like, oh

36:55

I've had a bunch of shots

36:58

and they're like, how many times

37:00

you have COVID? You're like,

37:02

five and you're like, how does

37:05

that work? I don't get it.

37:07

Yeah, bless them. Thank God

37:09

for my closest friends that I

37:11

could still talk shit to. I

37:14

wouldn't get to defensive about it.

37:16

I'd just be like, seriously. One

37:19

of the things that freaked

37:21

me out in it was she

37:23

said in a 1984 registrar went

37:25

out to all the medical

37:27

people and said, this is what

37:30

she said, quote, any doubts whether

37:32

or not well founded about

37:34

the safety of the vaccination program

37:37

must not be allowed to exist.

37:39

So anything bad you have

37:41

to say about this, we can't

37:43

accept. Can't accept any pushback. It's

37:46

all positive. All of it.

37:48

That's not good. That's scary. Yeah,

37:50

that's really scary. Yeah, that one

37:53

freaks me out. Because give me

37:55

another thing that that could be

37:57

true about. Nothing. You know,

37:59

and they do that when we

38:02

go to war. Like, they do,

38:04

like, after 9-11, it was

38:06

like, everyone was pumped to, like,

38:09

go kill someone. Yeah. Oh yeah.

38:11

That may or may not

38:13

have been. Gets about. But we

38:16

were real mad. So it was

38:18

like, who do we get?

38:20

Who? And they just like jumped

38:22

to Iraq that didn't do it.

38:25

They didn't even try to frame

38:27

Iraq with it. They were just

38:30

like, oh yeah, we're going

38:32

then. We're invading Iraq, yeah. They

38:34

probably had something to do with

38:36

it. But we're mad anyway,

38:38

so let's get someone. I mean,

38:41

it just like slipped right in.

38:43

And it happened so quick

38:45

too. It was hard to be.

38:48

like an anti-war person then for

38:50

sure yeah you know to

38:52

just be like yeah we're not

38:54

doing anything but this idea that

38:57

other treatments can't be like to

38:59

do the emergency authorization act thing

39:02

oh yeah requirements for it

39:04

are that it means that nothing

39:06

else works like the point of

39:08

the emergency authorization saying There

39:10

can't be anything else that works

39:13

means it doesn't mean make everything

39:15

that works not Sound like

39:17

it works. Yeah, it means this

39:20

is the last resort. Yeah, it

39:22

means if nothing else works.

39:24

Yeah, if we're absolutely fucked It's

39:26

basically martial law and we go

39:29

but it turns out that's

39:31

not how it worked at all

39:33

all they had to do is

39:36

be like What is that chloroquine?

39:38

What's that one called? And then,

39:40

I'm not sure. Oh, that

39:42

and the horse dewormer, I remember,

39:45

and these other ones, these peptides

39:47

and some other shit that

39:49

they were using, they basically just

39:52

demonized them all, shut them off,

39:54

made them impossible to get,

39:56

you know, made Joe Rogan look

39:58

like an idiot for using him.

40:01

Yeah. I mean, the whole

40:03

horse dewormer thing was just like.

40:05

Yeah, I think for at least

40:08

for me, and I bet this

40:10

is the same for a lot

40:12

of people the whole the

40:14

way that everything is set up

40:17

is so, it's just set up

40:19

on making money. You know,

40:21

it's not about helping people, it's

40:24

about how can we stronghold the

40:26

industry and have our products

40:28

be the only one available and

40:31

we'll buy immunity and we just

40:33

want to make money. You

40:35

know, it's terrible. Yeah, we can't

40:37

go back to just like rubbing

40:40

garlic on our wounds. I get

40:42

it. Yeah. You know, but there

40:45

are elements of like the

40:47

idea that modern Western medicine can't

40:49

say. other than

40:51

like a very brief off the cuff

40:53

like well yeah exercise and eat good

40:55

that's important but to be like food

40:58

heals you you know that should be

41:00

like a big part of the discussion

41:02

I mean it's kind of common sense

41:04

what you put in your body is

41:07

going to have an effect on the

41:09

way that you feel you know and

41:11

people underestimate that a lot as well

41:13

as like not only what the medical

41:15

establishment is doing but a lot of

41:18

when you listen to RFK and there's

41:20

been a lot of other people talking

41:22

about just the food industry in the

41:24

US especially just how terrible all of

41:27

it is for us. It is so

41:29

fucking wild the RFK runs their HHS

41:31

now. I'm like the fact that he

41:33

would listen to this podcast and like

41:35

agree with everything the doctor is talking

41:38

about for sure. he would be like

41:40

yeah that's true like I talked about

41:42

that in my book and now right

41:44

and now he's in charge of this

41:47

thing it's yeah he's been getting some

41:49

pushback from that though hasn't he recently

41:51

I've heard a lot of because a

41:53

lot of the young people who were

41:55

RFK fans like for him running for

41:58

president I know a lot of them

42:00

have kind of turned. Well, yeah, I

42:02

mean, he jumped over to Trump's side.

42:04

Yeah, like that's, it's reasonable that he

42:07

was going to lose some people.

42:09

Yeah. Right. But the demo, like,

42:11

uh, fucking Carmler wasn't going to

42:13

pull him on board. So now he's

42:15

in the position he wanted to be

42:17

and other than be the president

42:19

and he can make the changes that

42:21

he sees fit and, you know, I mean,

42:24

it was a good move for what you

42:26

needed to do. I think yeah, but

42:28

obviously it was gonna upset some

42:30

people and you know, I also

42:33

support whether like I don't think

42:35

that everybody should have gone that

42:37

direction. I just liked him and

42:40

to me it like I like Tulsa

42:42

I liked him and That kind of

42:44

made me like Trump a bit more

42:46

I gotta say yeah, because I was

42:48

like well at least Some people I

42:51

really liked I would have voted just

42:53

for him if I had voted Yeah,

42:55

I would have I would have definitely

42:57

voted for RFK And I'm hopeful

42:59

like he talked a lot about banning

43:02

a lot of the dies and shit

43:04

that they're putting in our food nowadays

43:06

like Red 40 is literally they've had

43:09

tests and shown that it makes young

43:11

boys more aggressive and like I knew

43:13

people I had a buddy when I

43:15

was living in Florida. I was in

43:18

I think middle school and um

43:20

First couple times I hung out

43:22

with this dude, his mom was

43:24

like, hey, by the way, not

43:27

a big deal, but don't give

43:29

him red gatorade. And I was

43:31

like, oh, okay, why? And she's

43:34

like, oh, he becomes like

43:36

really aggressive. And I was

43:38

like, huh, whoa, really? And she

43:41

was like, yeah, red dies. like

43:43

make him aggressive and shit. And he was a

43:45

pretty chill dude like I could definitely tell that

43:47

he could he had the tendency to become an

43:49

aggressive dude but he was chill but yeah his

43:51

mom was like we figured it out yeah it's

43:53

it's red dye that does it for him that's

43:55

what makes him more aggressive. I mean look I

43:58

think about it my entire life until I guess

44:00

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52:01

in during high school, I had

52:03

to go in during high school,

52:06

I had to get some. They

52:08

should question that. They're like, this

52:10

guy's fucked off. Hold on, how

52:13

tall is this guy? No, they

52:15

were like, this guy's too smart,

52:17

we need to nerve him and

52:20

make him dumber, so he

52:22

doesn't make a mockery of

52:24

our school and get his

52:26

degree in two weeks. Yeah.

52:28

I wouldn't have questioned it

52:30

because probably I would have already

52:32

had all those things, maybe just

52:34

ran through. So was it harder

52:36

on him as an individual to

52:39

have those later in life? I

52:41

don't think so. I'm not friends

52:43

with him anymore. I don't talk

52:45

to him anymore. He was kind

52:47

of a piece of shit. So, but

52:49

regardless, I remember him talking about that

52:51

and complaining about that and I was

52:54

like... I mean at the time I

52:56

was like dude that's tough shit sorry

52:58

your mom didn't love you you know

53:00

like sorry your mom's a weird hippie

53:03

well you can you can go too

53:05

far the other way oh yeah I

53:07

mean for sure it's hard to draw

53:09

the line but to be fair he

53:11

lived he wasn't like he died he

53:14

was actually he was really arrogant

53:16

dude and so it was really

53:18

funny this we did rowing in

53:20

high school That's how we got

53:23

into Dartmouth was through a rowing

53:25

scholarship. And I heard once he

53:27

got into Dartmouth, it's like a

53:30

big party school. And so he

53:32

got like really slow and gained

53:34

a bunch of weight and got

53:36

fat from drinking, which was

53:38

hilarious because he never drank

53:41

at all in high school. No way.

53:43

He was like very like PC and

53:45

very like chill. He was a weirdo

53:48

though. He's kind of creep too. But

53:50

it was. Yeah, it was just kind

53:52

of funny when the news came back.

53:54

Everyone on the team was like, huh,

53:56

he wasn't really that good. He became

53:58

fat, got slow. I did notice that

54:00

the friends of mine, they used to give

54:03

me a hard time for like either hosting

54:05

or going to parties that had booze. Like

54:07

I'd have like real, like never, I'm never

54:10

drinking, I give myself the Jesus or maybe

54:12

they weren't even religious, they were just like,

54:14

I don't do that. And yeah, they try

54:16

and make me feel terrible about it. And

54:19

I just always would say the same thing.

54:21

I'm like, bro, you're gonna grow up. Get

54:23

in your 20s, go to college, realize you

54:25

missed out and go too hot. Yeah, that

54:28

happens a lot. You gotta realize this is

54:30

just like not a big deal if you

54:32

just, you know, it's not like I'm blacking

54:34

out at 14. Yeah. So it's just like,

54:37

hey, it's not, yeah. Obviously, we're breaking some

54:39

rules. People can do that. Yeah. It's not

54:41

the worst thing ever. Yeah, kids. has a

54:43

good relationship with booze, like from kind of

54:46

like the beginning of it until now, didn't

54:48

have like moments where they were just like

54:50

really being a mess, with the kids that

54:52

I would say responsibly drank in a high

54:55

school. Yeah. You know, I'm not condoning it

54:57

for the listeners out there, but also like

54:59

easy with everyone that does it is bad

55:02

thing. Because eventually you'll be old enough to

55:04

do it. And you know, there's a good

55:06

chance you'll go too hard. Because you won't

55:08

have a healthy relate, you won't understand. You

55:11

don't know when it's too much, yeah. 100%

55:13

What did you think about the nicotine COVID

55:15

connection? That was interesting. Now I don't know

55:17

if it's just because I'm a bit of

55:20

a zingay. That I'm always trying to look

55:22

for the positives. No, it's not. It's real

55:24

bad. But nicotine is natural. compound, right? Yeah.

55:26

I guess arsenic and, you know, a bunch

55:29

of terrible compounds are also natural, but it's

55:31

like nicotine is a naturally very addictive compound.

55:33

That seems to be fairly non-toxic and has

55:35

potentially notropic effects. It's a stimulant. Yeah. You

55:38

know, there are some concerns. It's just how

55:40

you put it in your body. Like the...

55:42

Bad part about your mouth. You can't go

55:45

the other way. Well, no, I'm just saying

55:47

like the the issue is the issue is

55:49

how you get your nicotine. So like the

55:51

problem with smoking cigarettes is all the other

55:54

carcinogens and the tar that builds up in

55:56

your lungs and all like that's why smoking

55:58

cigarettes isn't healthy. The nicotine doesn't cancel it

56:00

out. But you are right. Nicotine as a

56:03

compound by itself is not in itself harmful.

56:05

It is addictive. And there are downsides, but

56:07

it's not going to kill you necessarily. But

56:09

it's the act of smoking cigarettes or like

56:12

people who do dip, you know, it's like

56:14

bad for your gums or whatever it is.

56:16

Same thing with Zins probably a little bit.

56:18

Zins are probably the, I say this, like

56:21

I'm a medical expert, but Zins are probably

56:23

the safest form of nicotine. Well, I'll ask

56:25

you this, anecdotally, you do Zins. Do your

56:27

gums fucked up? No bleeding or they saw

56:30

no I'm pretty new to the shit though,

56:32

but I mean I used to smoke cigarettes

56:34

We both used to smoke cigarettes and don't

56:37

throw the bus We used to smoke them

56:39

together bitch That was before you had your

56:41

kid Secret eggs And yes cigarettes are terrible

56:43

like yeah, I could feel it like You

56:46

do feel with Zins it kind of suppresses

56:48

your appetite a little bit but not nearly

56:50

as much as cigarettes. There's no way they're

56:52

carcinogenic. Yeah, I thought it was funny though

56:55

in the podcast. Before we get off that.

56:57

that nicotine connection is

56:59

that there are receptors

57:01

that nicotine binds to,

57:04

that COVID also would.

57:06

So if you had

57:08

higher levels of nicotine

57:10

in your system, even

57:13

if you were like

57:15

being a smoker, which

57:17

is unhealthy, you had

57:19

better protection against COVID,

57:22

which is like a

57:24

weird irony, just random

57:26

as fuck. But then

57:29

at the same time,

57:31

a lot of, well,

57:33

it's hard to say,

57:35

a lot of people

57:38

that were dying from

57:40

COVID, quote unquote, were

57:42

dying because they had

57:44

like respiratory issues or

57:47

heart failure or whatever

57:49

it is. And some

57:51

of that does come

57:53

from smoking, but a

57:56

lot of it was

57:58

just people being out

58:00

of shape and like

58:02

overweight and things like

58:05

that. But yeah, I

58:07

thought it was interesting.

58:09

And I have known

58:12

people who smoke before

58:14

and they're like, yeah,

58:16

I never get sick.

58:18

And then you hear

58:21

them like hack up

58:23

a lung when they're

58:25

smoking, but they never

58:27

get the flu. I

58:30

saw a great Instagram

58:32

the other day and

58:34

it's like one of

58:36

those like fake news

58:39

network ones. And like

58:41

it's obviously a joke,

58:43

but it just showed

58:45

like scientific researcher interviewed

58:48

like all these thousands

58:50

of people that got

58:52

over a hundred years

58:54

old and they found

58:57

two items that are

58:59

like what makes, like

59:01

how they got there.

59:04

And it just shows

59:06

like a packet of

59:08

Marlborough's and whiskey. And

59:10

it's always that thing,

59:13

right? It's like the

59:15

122 year old dies

59:17

and she had a

59:19

cigarette every week and

59:22

always had some wine

59:24

every night. The irony

59:26

there is it's like,

59:28

well, those aren't the

59:31

things that kept her

59:33

alive, right? It was

59:35

like a lot of

59:37

other elements, but it's

59:40

funny. It's funny and

59:42

it's good. They interviewed

59:44

this one. The old

59:47

lady, I think she

59:49

was like 93 or

59:51

something like that. And

59:53

she was drinking a

59:56

Dr. Pepper and they're

59:58

like, Dr.

1:00:00

Pepper, she's like, yeah, this has been

1:00:02

keeping me alive the whole time. And

1:00:04

she's like, she's like, yeah, I had

1:00:07

two doctors told me to stop, but

1:00:09

both of them died before me. It's

1:00:11

hard to fucking argue that, right? Yeah.

1:00:13

I mean, it really is. Okay, so

1:00:16

the last thing I want to go

1:00:18

over really with this is, and there's

1:00:20

so much to cover in this podcast,

1:00:23

I mean, you got to listen to

1:00:25

it. it's like we can't do it

1:00:27

justice for this but you know the

1:00:29

autism thing is an

1:00:32

issue vaccine autism related thing

1:00:34

it gets downplayed they're saying

1:00:36

no connection you know again

1:00:39

i think that they're really

1:00:41

leaning hard on any data

1:00:43

that could potentially point to

1:00:46

the possibility of that

1:00:48

they really don't want any

1:00:50

connection And I think that

1:00:52

there's some propaganda in there.

1:00:55

I think there's some

1:00:57

covering up. I don't know if

1:00:59

it's like huge, but there

1:01:02

definitely seems to be a rise

1:01:04

in autism. You know, it's

1:01:06

also reasonable to assume that,

1:01:08

you know, diagnosing it in

1:01:10

the past was not as

1:01:12

efficient as it is today, that

1:01:14

type of thing. But, you know, I

1:01:17

am suspicious of the... there

1:01:19

is absolutely no connection thing.

1:01:21

Yeah, because that's the one

1:01:23

that they push back the most

1:01:25

on. They really do. Well, because

1:01:27

they would imagine, like, you don't

1:01:29

have kids, right? And when we

1:01:31

first met, when we first met,

1:01:34

I didn't, I wasn't thinking

1:01:36

about it. But as soon as I

1:01:38

did, and this like whole thing of

1:01:40

vaccines, we're like, oh, now you've got

1:01:42

to get this. The idea, and,

1:01:44

you know, I don't want to.

1:01:46

Give anyone who has autistic kids

1:01:49

shit for that. It's like, God

1:01:51

bless you. And, you know, I know

1:01:53

some autistic kids and

1:01:55

they're beautiful, beautiful

1:01:57

people. But it's like, I work.

1:01:59

so much. It's like she's learning words,

1:02:02

she's doing these things, she's looking

1:02:04

at me and I'm like, you

1:02:06

know, you're always trying to minimize

1:02:08

challenges for your kids, right? I

1:02:10

mean, of course that's what you

1:02:12

want. You want them to be

1:02:14

healthy and attractive and all the

1:02:16

things and there be whatever they

1:02:18

are and you'll love them the

1:02:20

same. But the idea that it

1:02:22

could suddenly just happen from a

1:02:24

couple of jabs. Yeah. And you

1:02:26

just can't possibly know all the

1:02:28

information. It's like... Just give it

1:02:30

to us. What's the worst that

1:02:32

can happen if you just give

1:02:34

us all of that information? You're

1:02:37

like, yeah, 10% of them will

1:02:39

be autistic if they get these

1:02:41

jabs. Also, it's pretty bad, you

1:02:43

know, when they don't get the

1:02:45

jabs because, you know, they all

1:02:47

get polio. Yeah. Yeah, I would

1:02:49

be curious about the actual data

1:02:51

behind that, but that's always the

1:02:53

one that, like, whenever you mention

1:02:55

Antivax and people go down the

1:02:57

road of, oh, it causes autism,

1:02:59

that's always like the flipping switch

1:03:01

where people really push back on

1:03:03

that and they're like, no, it's

1:03:05

well established that it doesn't, like,

1:03:07

there's lots of data and this

1:03:09

and that, like, I bet if

1:03:11

you did a quick Google search,

1:03:13

you would, it would take you

1:03:15

a long time to find some

1:03:17

viewpoint for, you know in the

1:03:20

anti-vax corner saying saying that confirming

1:03:22

it and maybe it's for good

1:03:24

reason maybe it's not true whatever

1:03:26

this that the other but that

1:03:28

is always the one that people

1:03:30

seem to fight the most against

1:03:32

you get the most resistance whenever

1:03:34

you mention that one right vaccine

1:03:36

conversation it's very true yeah it's

1:03:38

very true well listen guys go

1:03:40

out listen to this one it's

1:03:42

really good also towards the end

1:03:44

she talked about getting kicked off

1:03:46

YouTube for like talking about vitamin

1:03:48

C pre-covid which is like what

1:03:50

and Then she couldn't get on

1:03:52

Twitter forever. They like kicked her

1:03:54

off and she couldn't get back

1:03:56

on But she

1:03:58

eventually got back

1:04:00

on got back said

1:04:03

she said her like her like

1:04:05

90,000 followers or whatever she had but whatever

1:04:07

she had but maybe

1:04:09

she's back on follower. I looked

1:04:11

I looked at it today

1:04:14

She got after being on Rogan and she's now

1:04:16

at a and she's now at

1:04:18

a hundred and two thousand That's

1:04:20

a lot. So it's it's increasing and

1:04:23

for her. your message out there

1:04:25

like fuck fuck fuck fuck social media

1:04:27

like trying to to you from

1:04:29

that. It doesn't mean that

1:04:31

this is that this know you know

1:04:33

that you shouldn't get a voice

1:04:35

a voice and it doesn't mean

1:04:37

that you're right about everything

1:04:40

that you say, but this

1:04:42

is America that Yeah, do your

1:04:44

own research. I love it

1:04:46

All right. Thanks guys. I love

1:04:48

having all right always guys as always as

1:04:50

always pleasure to you guys next

1:04:52

week next week