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a podcast episode in my basement

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like the Lord intended. That's why

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he came back for podcast. Is

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It's what I heard. It's what

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a mock session. So I did that late

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going on but was loving it and

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then yeah just a bit of family

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it is good reset well talking

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games. That

28:21

restrictive diet had so many health

28:24

benefits that the opposite or doing

28:26

a different way would be was

28:28

not untenable Yeah, then then you're

28:30

gonna stick to it because the

28:33

Not being on it. You just

28:35

can't handle that. So there's benefits

28:37

there But for most people you're

28:39

not going to be able to

28:41

do that you do a hybrid

28:44

of it because you get high

28:46

protein protein is the house. That's

28:48

your body, right? And if you're

28:50

not getting enough protein, then your

28:53

body's not able to recover and

28:55

to build muscle and to be

28:57

ready to do other things. So

28:59

I've done it. I think a

29:01

healthier, more stable version of carnivore

29:04

is a hybrid where you have

29:06

some vegetables and you have some

29:08

some carbs in there. and you

29:10

settle on what's right for you,

29:13

but if you do have a

29:15

doctor that'll work with you, make

29:17

little changes here and there and

29:19

check your blood work and see

29:21

where it's at. But I'm no

29:24

doctor and neither is Gary, but

29:26

I do agree with him that

29:28

if you have high cholesterol and

29:30

nothing wrong with you, then there's

29:32

nothing wrong with you. Right. Have

29:35

you gone on any any steps

29:37

for me though? I don't like,

29:39

yeah, there's. Yeah, I just I

29:41

probably feel that way because being

29:44

on some of these medicines can't

29:46

be good for you. No, well,

29:48

we know it's not and also

29:50

You know, it's not just anecdotal

29:52

when you do it yourself It's

29:55

has to actually be more valid

29:57

than the entire medical community telling

29:59

you to do it because you

30:01

get to feel it the changes

30:04

and the differences But it is

30:06

interesting that you added the rice

30:08

back in because I've heard Just

30:10

from looking at things about carnival

30:12

that if you lift heavy, it's

30:15

hard to keep the energy for

30:17

like the big lifts. Yeah, it

30:19

does provide some more energy. It

30:21

keeps me fuller, longer with a,

30:23

because carnival is a ketogenic diet,

30:26

right? Right. So you're just burning

30:28

all the time. You'll shed some

30:30

body fat. Not all the time,

30:32

but primarily a male diet plan,

30:35

right? There's some things with hormone

30:37

and women's cycles that don't line

30:39

up with doing carnivore where it

30:41

can be not as helpful. So

30:43

it fits more into a male

30:46

lifestyle. If you want to shred

30:48

me on that in the comments,

30:50

that's fine too. That's just what

30:52

I've heard from other podcasts that

30:55

women doctors have. No, I've heard

30:57

that too, but the women that

30:59

do. find that it works really

31:01

good, like Jordan Peterson's daughter. It's

31:03

people that do suffer from specific

31:06

autoimmune problems that kind of box

31:08

them in to being like, okay,

31:10

a lot of the foods that

31:12

I eat cause these inflamations, these

31:15

discomforts, this pain, this acne, you

31:17

know, possibly even hormone oil balances,

31:19

and it helps them out. And

31:21

now it's not to say. If

31:23

you have autoimmune, then you shouldn't

31:26

try other things, and even things

31:28

that doctors recommend, course you should

31:30

try it all because who knows

31:32

what will help. But it's definitely

31:34

worth throwing it in the mix,

31:37

I think. And like you said,

31:39

with Jordan, he had a bunch

31:41

of autoimmune. So to him, even

31:43

though it's super restrictive, kind of

31:46

boring. And you've got to be

31:48

a bit of a weirdo when

31:50

you go out to eat, I

31:52

guess. It's worth it, because what's

31:54

the alternative for him? Feeling like

31:57

shit? It's like that's no good.

32:00

Once you see the way in

32:02

the clouds part and you start

32:04

getting into, there's no alternatives. Once

32:06

you find what works for you,

32:09

you go, oh, this is the

32:11

way. Just like Mandalorian says, right?

32:13

You're not going to divert. And

32:15

it takes time. And the important

32:17

thing, especially with the gym or

32:20

health, right? If what you're doing

32:22

right now. isn't working for you,

32:24

isn't, and that's the key thing,

32:26

isn't working for you, is changing,

32:29

going to hurt anything? Go try

32:31

something else. If it's not working,

32:33

go try something else. Right. And

32:35

if that doesn't work either, you

32:38

can go back to what you're

32:40

comfortable with, but... If you want

32:42

different results and you keep doing

32:44

the same thing that isn't working,

32:47

then you're just going to be

32:49

staying. You're not going to get

32:51

any stronger, you're not going to

32:53

lose any weight, you're not going

32:56

to see any progress towards the

32:58

goal that you have set for

33:00

yourself. Yeah. And you know, he

33:02

even brings up like kind of

33:05

the environmental toxins that lead to

33:07

like autoimmune. So it's like gut

33:09

health connection things. What did he

33:11

talk about? His daughter, a palm

33:14

and had mold. heavy metals in

33:16

the diet, mycotoxins, parasites. I mean,

33:18

I, it starts to get a

33:20

bit, a bit like hypochondriac after

33:23

a time. I'm like, I don't

33:25

know how many people have parasites,

33:27

but maybe, but also these things

33:29

where you're like cleaning up your

33:32

diet, I know when you get

33:34

into ketosis, that there's a bunch

33:36

of different benefits, you know, they're

33:38

even pointing to the fact that

33:41

in ketosis. a lot of cancers

33:43

struggle to grow because they're like

33:45

glucose high glucose dependent and it

33:47

just gives you this like reset

33:50

this chance to just like clean

33:52

some things out and and allow

33:54

your body like I think When

33:56

your body is running well and

33:59

clean, and you know, not being

34:01

poisoned by alcohol or just like

34:03

other stresses that we put it

34:05

under, whether you're a smoker or

34:08

whether you stay up late, like

34:10

there's a lot of stresses, right?

34:12

Then it gives it a chance

34:14

to clean most of the shit

34:17

out on its own. The body's

34:19

kind of good at doing that.

34:21

I mean, fasting does that. What's

34:23

that thing called? Autophagy? Yeah, just

34:26

giving it a break and cleaning

34:28

it out is like very useful

34:30

as well. Getting the correct amount

34:32

of sleep is like a hidden

34:35

wonder drug, which is tough for

34:37

most people to do with their

34:39

lifestyles, kids, family, schedule, travel to

34:41

work back and forth and all

34:44

this stuff, but sleep, if you're

34:46

not getting enough sleep, it's tough

34:48

to build off of that one,

34:50

because then you're, again, you're fighting

34:53

against your body's ability to recover.

34:55

The part where I started to

34:57

get a little, you know, and

34:59

I don't, I think Gary had

35:02

alluded to this is he has

35:04

all the money and has all

35:06

the knowledge and information and wherewithal

35:08

to take all the steps to

35:11

not have these toxins or whatever

35:13

come into his body, right? He

35:15

has all this and then he

35:17

takes a test and he's got

35:20

all this shit in his blood.

35:22

So if this guy that has

35:24

all the information and the ability

35:26

to avoid these things Isn't able

35:29

to avoid it. What hope does

35:31

that leave for us? That's a

35:33

good point That is a good

35:35

point. I mean what you could

35:38

do is look at some uniquely

35:40

specific things that he's doing that

35:42

maybe other people aren't and I

35:44

mean since he's kind of in

35:47

that influence realm He's probably flying

35:49

a lot traveling a lot, that's

35:51

really hard on the system. You

35:53

know, so even though he can

35:56

do all these healthy things, there

35:58

might be some pretty unhealthy things

36:00

that... that it just are circumstance

36:02

to his current situation that could

36:05

be avoidable but it is a

36:07

good question and they say this

36:09

also about these fucking microplastics good

36:11

luck you can't get that out

36:14

of you like I haven't heard

36:16

any way to get that out

36:18

of your system and supposedly we're

36:20

eating like a credit cards worth

36:23

of plastic a week. Oh I

36:25

love it love to hear it.

36:27

Pilot on there. Yeah, what it's

36:29

unfortunate, right? The such negative bias

36:32

in the news and they'll throw

36:34

this information out there. Oh, you're

36:36

eating this much microplastics and it's

36:38

going to your brain every week

36:41

and then and then you get

36:43

to the bottom of the article

36:45

and you know, hey, is there

36:47

a Hey, is there a solution

36:50

in there for this? Hey, hello,

36:52

can you give me the rest

36:54

of the information here? Oh, yeah,

36:56

we don't have that. No, I

36:59

guess you're just fucked Well, fuck.

37:01

Yeah, it just gives you 14

37:03

click bait articles about Paris Hilton

37:05

and you're like, oh, that's what

37:08

I should move on to after

37:10

this. Give me a solution. Yeah.

37:12

Some of these things we can't

37:14

avoid like there's because plastics solves

37:17

so many problems. It's an unfathomable

37:19

amount of problems in the world.

37:21

containers and transporting and everything. So

37:23

many things I have, I wouldn't

37:26

even know, everything in medical, all

37:28

this stuff that's in plastics and

37:30

everything, look around your house that's

37:32

made of plastic, all this stuff

37:35

that's made of plastic, your cars

37:37

are made of plastic, right? Yeah.

37:39

Well, you know that air freshener,

37:41

new car smell, remember that one?

37:44

Yeah. Yeah, of course, everyone knows

37:46

it. It's actually one of the

37:48

better air freshenist smells. It's mimicking.

37:50

It's mimicking off-gassing from mallehyde, which

37:53

is a gas that comes out

37:55

of plastics after it heats up.

37:57

And that's what the new car

37:59

smell is. Now, those air fresheners

38:02

aren't made of formaldehyde, but they

38:04

mimic the smell, and I'm sure

38:06

whatever chemicals they put in there

38:08

are not all that much better.

38:11

But yeah, we've been breathing this

38:13

shit in for our whole lives.

38:15

And in fact, I was at

38:17

the grocery store this morning, and

38:20

I was thinking of this, because

38:22

we had the pod coming. And

38:24

I looked around and I was

38:26

like, all right, I need to

38:29

get some stuff for breakfast. I'm

38:31

gonna make breakfast at home. And

38:33

I was like, I wonder if

38:35

I can buy my breakfast from

38:38

this store that isn't touching plastic

38:40

or some sort of plastic. And

38:42

really all you had is fruits

38:44

and vegetables, because they're open in

38:47

the things. All the meat is

38:49

covered in wrap, you know, on

38:51

top of some. styrofoam little tray.

38:53

So there's no way that doesn't

38:56

have plastic in it. It must

38:58

have some. And then I'm like,

39:00

well, I can't just have like

39:02

fruits of veggies for breakfast. I

39:05

guess I could. But everything was

39:07

covered in plastic. Which I think

39:09

I knew, but I just hadn't

39:11

seen it in such like direct

39:14

kind of relationship to what I

39:16

was trying to do. I was

39:18

like, this is disturbing. I don't

39:20

know. You know, you know. and

39:23

supposedly there's a difference between cold

39:25

plastic and then heating up plastic

39:27

as well. Definitely true, definitely true.

39:29

In a plastic container, but I've

39:32

been at work and I've had

39:34

that in my head and looking

39:36

at the plastic container with my

39:38

food in it and going, ah,

39:41

what's one more time? I'm already,

39:43

you know, and then you just

39:45

throw it in the microwave and

39:47

you microwave it again, you go,

39:50

ah, maybe this is the one

39:52

that'll kill me. Yeah. But the

39:54

problem is, it's, it's slow. It's

39:56

slow. It's slow. It's slow. It's

39:59

slow. It's accumulative. This is again,

40:01

back to the alcohol thing, this

40:03

is why the knowledge is important.

40:05

It's like, you're gonna be faced

40:08

with it, it's gonna happen. But

40:10

the other day, I was getting

40:12

my oil changed, and you know,

40:14

they often have a coffee thing

40:17

in the oil change place. And

40:19

there there was little styrofoam cups,

40:21

which we've all used for coffee

40:23

in the past, I'm sure. But

40:26

this time around, I was like,

40:28

as much as I want coffee

40:30

right now, I don't think I

40:32

wanna put a hot liquid in

40:35

that little cup. Like I'm not

40:37

trying to be, you know the...

40:39

Super hippie that doesn't use plastic

40:41

straws anymore. Not that guy, but

40:44

I just wanted to take a

40:46

second with what I've been hearing

40:48

and be like, I think I'm

40:50

gonna cut that food on that

40:53

out. It seems like the worst

40:55

type of plasticy crap that I

40:57

could be around. And I'll do

40:59

my best to kind of slowly

41:02

work other stuff out of my

41:04

diet. It could be, little steps,

41:06

right? Like I said earlier, you

41:08

get... Adjust little things at a

41:11

time. Otherwise, you're going to fail

41:13

if you try to adjust everything

41:15

all at the same time. Yeah,

41:17

try and change everything. You're not

41:20

going to stick to it. So

41:22

all right, I'm not going to

41:24

take the coffee out of the

41:26

plastic death container anymore. So that's

41:29

a good first step. Yeah, we're

41:31

slowly getting that talking about changes

41:33

that can be made. I know

41:35

Gary's working with RFK Jr, which

41:38

I love and, you know, closer

41:40

with the Trump administration, which again.

41:42

you know, all the haters that

41:44

were always going to hate him,

41:47

you know, I get it, but

41:49

also isn't it ironic that potentially

41:51

the greatest non-corporate pharmaceutical health changes

41:53

we've made has come under Donald

41:56

Trump joining forces with RFK? I

41:58

mean, banning certain dies that Europe

42:00

and other countries have already banned.

42:02

forcing companies or not forcing them

42:05

but really encouraging them stop using

42:07

seed oils which are pretty rancid

42:09

and gross according to Gary. You

42:11

know, I'm curious to get your

42:14

your thoughts on like how how

42:16

far do you think RFK can

42:18

get in the time that he

42:20

has. Realistically. Hmm. That won't be

42:23

undone later. It's I draw it

42:25

too that it's I draw it's

42:27

actually it's sad. that this is

42:29

even a debate. If the government

42:32

lives up to its name it's

42:34

there to protect its citizens right

42:36

health of its citizens should not

42:38

be a debate there should this

42:41

shouldn't be one side or the

42:43

other people should be be going

42:45

no tell us the truth it

42:47

shouldn't be Open to interpretation, but

42:50

unfortunately everything in this arena is

42:52

yeah because somebody's paying somebody it's

42:54

somebody profits off of somebody being

42:56

healthy or sick And not right

42:58

in the middle not just you

43:01

know that because being healthy will

43:03

cost something and being sick will

43:05

cost even more So just but

43:07

a normal person that just goes

43:10

about their lives and doesn't ever

43:12

get sick or anything like that

43:14

or doesn't ever be healthy That's

43:16

not going to make you any

43:19

money. So people are going to

43:21

profit either way and they're going

43:23

to profit more if they're sick

43:25

in the hospitals and things like

43:28

that, but it shouldn't be open

43:30

for debate. It should be, yes,

43:32

this is what's best to make

43:34

people healthy. Now, we got demographics,

43:37

we got geographics, all that fall

43:39

into there and how to help

43:41

everybody else out. Well, we have

43:43

medical propaganda. Yeah, you can advertise

43:46

for medical here in the United

43:48

States. I would just

43:50

say it's unfortunate and no matter

43:52

what you think about Bobby Kennedy,

43:55

right? I didn't know anything about

43:57

him until he came. Rogan Rogan

43:59

and I just listened to him

44:01

and he just like Gary you

44:03

know all politicians are full of

44:06

shit right yeah I just feel

44:08

like he's not as full of

44:10

shit as some of the other

44:12

ones no matter what your political

44:14

affiliation is agreed the things that

44:17

he says he sounds genuine if

44:19

you choose to believe that or

44:21

not that's up to you and

44:23

that's you're right I'm not going

44:25

to debate with you one way

44:27

or the other but if you've

44:30

put him side by side with

44:32

other politicians or with different track

44:34

record in the same field and

44:36

when they talk him like this

44:38

person sounds like they're full of

44:41

shit. Yeah. So I just I

44:43

feel like he's he's actually trying

44:45

to help or instead of pretending

44:47

to act like he's trying to

44:49

help. And there is a difference

44:52

like hey if he's wrong I

44:54

trust him enough to have tried

44:56

his best and he probably came

44:58

out with a more insightful and

45:00

knowledge-based conclusion than I could have

45:02

done on my own with the

45:05

same intention? Here. All right, let's

45:07

say they're all corrupt, right? Let's

45:09

say they're all corrupt and they're

45:11

all out for only for themselves.

45:13

I'm going to take the one

45:16

that's corrupt and out for themselves

45:18

that wants me to be sick.

45:20

That's a great way of putting

45:22

it. Yes. That's so good. In

45:24

fact... I watched, not to bang

45:27

on about the left, but this

45:29

is my example, I watched a

45:31

clip with Elizabeth Warren earlier today

45:33

on a very left-wing podcast and

45:35

the left-wing guy doing the podcast

45:37

was like, you said right before

45:40

basically everyone said that Biden was

45:42

being competent and couldn't do his

45:44

job that he had all his

45:46

faculties and was nail in it.

45:48

And she was like, that's what

45:51

I saw. I did meetings with

45:53

him and that's an even he

45:55

was like, come on. We've been,

45:57

and she basically like snickered a

45:59

few times because she knew she

46:02

was caught in a lie. It's

46:04

so obvious to watch when somebody

46:06

is like straight up lying and

46:08

they're cornered. And if you're willing

46:10

to do that, even like you

46:12

said, even if you're all out

46:15

for yourself and you're a liar,

46:17

I don't feel like RFK is.

46:19

Even if he doesn't get everything

46:21

right. Let's say some of his

46:23

status on vaccines are like not

46:26

quite there, you know, but he's

46:28

asking questions and he's brave enough

46:30

to do it and he's taking

46:32

them on and you know what,

46:34

when they get that defensive with

46:37

him, that to me is a

46:39

bit of a red flag that

46:41

there might be something there that

46:43

he could find. Isn't it amazing

46:45

that contrary to, you know, Politicians

46:47

saying, well, this is what I

46:50

saw and this is what my

46:52

experiences were and everybody knows they're

46:54

full of shit. They would garner

46:56

so much respect if they would

46:58

just say, yeah, I was fucking

47:01

lying. People would go, respect. I

47:03

respect that. You know, you had

47:05

to support your party and I

47:07

had to support the party at

47:09

the time and that's what we

47:12

were doing to uphold the, uphold

47:14

the image. People would go, oh.

47:16

Okay, at least you guys have

47:18

a unified front instead of just

47:20

continuing to lie to people when

47:22

they know you're when they know

47:25

you're full of shit. I completely

47:27

agree. And you know, you know,

47:29

so I think there's two things

47:31

going on here. Number one, no

47:33

one has ever done that in

47:36

politics that hasn't immediately like retired

47:38

or given up their position, like

47:40

because of shame. So there's something

47:42

they know that we don't. And

47:44

I think it might be as

47:47

simple as if you're that honest

47:49

in politics, even if everyone goes,

47:51

that's cool, we respect it, they

47:53

bring it up all the time.

47:55

I am every time you make

47:58

another point and you never recover

48:00

from it. Because I think it's

48:02

that ugly of a world, potentially.

48:04

Now, if more people did it,

48:06

consistently, we could change the whole

48:08

game. And then it becomes this

48:11

like honest dialogue where people take

48:13

accountability for fucking up. But the

48:15

last time I heard it that

48:17

had any weight at all came

48:19

from the, honestly, the last person

48:22

that I would ever expect to

48:24

do it. And it was Donald

48:26

Trump on Rogan. And it was

48:28

when Rogan was asking him about

48:30

how he picks his cabinet. And

48:33

basically, Trump said, look, there's so

48:35

many positions to fill. There's so

48:37

many jobs. And you know, I

48:39

have to outsource some of it.

48:41

And I didn't know that part

48:43

of the political world as well

48:46

as I would like to. And

48:48

I didn't get all the people

48:50

that I would have liked to

48:52

have got that were good. I

48:54

really think that it was very

48:57

humble of him to do that,

48:59

especially with his style in general.

49:01

And he's, what I like about

49:03

it is he was like this

49:05

time around, I'm gonna get better

49:08

people. And I have to say

49:10

he's done it. Like, obviously, Hexeth

49:12

has been fucking up a little

49:14

bit on signal, bless him. Somebody

49:16

should probably take his phone for

49:18

a couple of days. But... There's

49:21

a lot of great people in

49:23

this cabinet. I would have never

49:25

expected to be in there. Tulsi.

49:27

Yeah, RFK, we're talking about. It's

49:29

like, he's doing a better job

49:32

at picking it. And you don't

49:34

hear that from most politicians. You're

49:36

right, you can't, because everything's recorded

49:38

now, right? Everything is on a

49:40

loop for all eternity. Yeah. 120

49:43

years ago, presidential candidates used to

49:45

ride around them. back of it

49:47

on the caboose of the train

49:49

and give speeches, sit on it

49:51

on the trail train tracks for

49:53

three hours about what they were

49:56

going to do. And now, you

49:58

know, they can tweet about what

50:00

they think about this obscure news

50:02

event and it'll be made into

50:04

a meme in half a second

50:07

and then around the world eight

50:09

times before anybody has a chance

50:11

to even get a thought about

50:13

it. Yeah. Do you ever think

50:15

about that now that you've been

50:18

podcasting? that there's a chance your

50:20

great-great-great-grandkids could listen to hundreds of

50:22

hours of you talking. And I

50:24

don't know about you, but I'm

50:26

like, I'm a bit of a

50:28

history buff, I love it, I

50:31

love reading about it, it like

50:33

helps me understand kind of the

50:35

structure of all things, and then

50:37

it does make me think of

50:39

like, how cool would it have

50:42

been to like know about your

50:44

great-great-grandfather. or just like people in

50:46

the past that were like directly

50:48

connected to you, I would love

50:50

to listen to like my grandfather's

50:53

grandfather talk about something. I would

50:55

love to listen to my, yes,

50:57

when they were my age, to

50:59

hear what they had to say

51:01

when they were my age, especially

51:03

the ones that served in the

51:06

military, right? And when we were

51:08

going through and at the same

51:10

time and what they thought about

51:12

things, I don't think about that.

51:14

per se I think about so

51:17

mine interviewing special operations veterans and

51:19

then I've got some some leeway

51:21

either way because it's my show

51:23

and I get to pick who's

51:25

cool I think about the person

51:28

that's inspired by that episode possibly

51:30

to join and then that person

51:32

goes on to do like get

51:34

the Medal of Honor or something

51:36

right that or something unbelievably crazy

51:38

and when wait around down the

51:41

road they're like Well, what happened

51:43

when I was, you know, I

51:45

was inspired by this person I

51:47

heard on this shell or in

51:49

your talking about generation. down the

51:52

line. I think about something like

51:54

that. Because my show is all

51:56

about the guest and trying to

51:58

get their story out and hopefully

52:00

if I can pull their story

52:03

out of them and it inspires

52:05

somebody else to go do some

52:07

cool shit like they did and

52:09

better their lives and for a

52:11

better experience and just. do their

52:14

own cool shit because we're all

52:16

capable of doing some really unbelievable

52:18

things but you have to want

52:20

to and if it makes people

52:22

want to that's what I think

52:24

about. Yeah and what's nice about

52:27

a lot of the conversations that

52:29

you have is that they are

52:31

timeless right because they're kind of

52:33

like the philosophy of the motivations

52:35

the experience the fallout of it

52:38

you know the impact why they

52:40

got into it what led them

52:42

to this point And that kind

52:44

of thinking, it's almost similar to

52:46

like reading Marcus Aurelius's stuff. That's

52:49

2,000 years old, but it's like

52:51

exactly perfect for people to listen

52:53

to today, because it's like the

52:55

human experience. And to, you know,

52:57

like I'm saying, for people in

52:59

the future to be able to

53:02

just kind of listen to this

53:04

different time and this different perspective.

53:06

and be like holy shit they

53:08

had it then like why can't

53:10

we still figure this out it's

53:13

pretty cool it is and I

53:15

really appreciate the Marcus Aurelius comparison

53:17

and it's funny because I was

53:19

looking up the quote today's our

53:21

soul is colored by the thought

53:24

by the our thoughts or I

53:26

messed it up now but I

53:28

was looking up a Marcus Aurelius

53:30

quote today duty so good And,

53:32

you know, I asked my buddy,

53:34

I said, ask me any question.

53:37

It's like, what do you see

53:39

when you close your eyes? And

53:41

it sounds like just a throwaway

53:43

question, right? But I know, you

53:45

know, when I close my eyes,

53:48

I see the stuff I'm trying

53:50

to do physically. and with my

53:52

health and things like that. And

53:54

it all relates to what we're

53:56

talking about with Gary Brecker and

53:59

these things. I have some fitness

54:01

goals and some life goals that

54:03

I'm trying to do. And when

54:05

I close my eyes, I can

54:07

see them. And you can envision

54:09

yourself doing something, you're more likely

54:12

to do it. 100% man. That's

54:14

why I never knocked those ladies

54:16

that love those vision boards. Never,

54:18

I never did, like, when I

54:20

first heard of them, I was

54:23

like, I've never made one. But

54:25

I'm not even opposed to it.

54:27

I think it's great to have

54:29

a snapshot of what your life

54:31

could be. A guiding point to

54:34

where you would like to go.

54:36

I think, you know, just like

54:38

you're saying, you close your eyes

54:40

and see it. It's like everyone

54:42

needs that destination. Otherwise, where are

54:44

you going? You're aimlessly wandering the

54:47

map. And, you know, I think

54:49

things like Gary Brecker stuff does

54:51

that too. It's like the more

54:53

you hear, the more you know,

54:55

look, it's easy to eat seed

54:58

oils all day long. I mean,

55:00

everything. But when you hear him

55:02

talk about having hexane in it,

55:04

sodium hydroxide, a bunch of other

55:06

chemicals and they squish it down

55:09

and then it stinks and then

55:11

that's carcinogenic and then they put

55:13

it on your french fries. You're

55:15

like, you know what, maybe I'm

55:17

just gonna have a steak tonight.

55:19

I said. everything in moderation because

55:22

when you have a little bit

55:24

is it unavoidable kind of it's

55:26

kind of unavoidable because I've taken

55:28

it almost completely out of my

55:30

diet but if I you know

55:33

go have something is it gonna

55:35

kill me no and Gary said

55:37

that he goes you know he

55:39

kind of tried to get away

55:41

from the dosage creates the poison

55:44

or what not right if you

55:46

have enough over time it's still

55:48

gonna kill you well you know

55:50

everything in moderation because when you

55:52

All right we have Gary right

55:55

but then there's other influencers that

55:57

are actual medical doctors that are

55:59

studying the stuff in the field

56:01

that's say the complete opposite of

56:03

what he says. It is true

56:05

they do. On the on the

56:08

internet long enough you're going to

56:10

find opposing views from very high

56:12

up personas people that are very

56:14

accomplished. Yeah. And they're fucking diametrically

56:16

opposed on the same issue. So

56:19

then you get to well who

56:21

the fuck do I believe then?

56:23

Yeah. But I think it's I

56:25

think to your point. It's like

56:27

that's where moderation is useful because

56:30

in a sense. Let's follow Gary

56:32

Brecker with moderation. Let's follow all

56:34

the people we trust with moderation.

56:36

Like just a little bit of

56:38

each of it. Take on a

56:40

little bit. You don't have to

56:43

become the disciple. You're not joining

56:45

a cult. That usually leads you

56:47

to something a bit extreme. It's

56:49

nice to be aware of stuff.

56:51

I have seen medical doctors and

56:54

researchers cite over and over again

56:56

that seed oil peer reviewed studies

56:58

reduce inflammation. They don't have these

57:00

harmful effects like, etc, etc. etc.

57:02

But, you know, it's you pick

57:05

your poisons, I guess. I mean,

57:07

look, at the end of the

57:09

day, Gary Brecker didn't even know

57:11

what smelling salts were. Joe got

57:13

him out and true to Joe's

57:15

beautiful peer pressure, which he is

57:18

excellent at once he gets going.

57:20

And there we go. All of

57:22

a sudden, Gary sniffing ammonia. Um,

57:24

live on the air. And it's

57:26

like, yeah, probably if he did

57:29

that all day every day, that

57:31

would fuck him up too. But

57:33

he tried it once. It's all

57:35

right. It was some funny peer

57:37

pressure. It was great. I was

57:40

like, yeah, he's definitely going to

57:42

do it because it's Rogan show.

57:44

Cause. Well, he brought it up

57:46

too. He was asking for it.

57:48

Yeah, he definitely asked for it.

57:50

But if you've ever had the

57:53

chance at home, do you have

57:55

some smelling salts. Painful. Yep. There

57:57

you go. Yeah. We always have.

57:59

of the stew always in honor

58:01

of in honor of Rogan and

58:04

you know what is hilarious it's

58:06

exactly what Rogan said when he

58:08

said oh we have him in

58:10

the green room at the comedy

58:12

store the different people that

58:15

I produce that come in

58:17

and do other podcasting shows

58:19

they're all addicted to them

58:21

they get in they don't they won't

58:23

even start a podcast without

58:25

having a good sniff and

58:28

I'm like whoops Addicted

58:30

may be the wrong word,

58:32

you know, you know, because

58:34

I heard this comedian, he

58:36

said, you know, okay, I

58:38

get it, you're addicted to

58:40

the gym, but have you

58:42

ever missed three days of work

58:44

because you're deep in a workout?

58:47

You know, or have you had

58:49

to sell your tooster to pay

58:51

for your, pay for your workout?

58:53

That's a good point. It's all

58:56

relative, right? I know. Just let

58:58

me in one more set. I

59:00

just need to do 10 more

59:02

reps. I'll do anything. Yeah, well,

59:05

there are levels to this.

59:07

You're right. They're not that addicted

59:09

to it. But anyway, it was

59:11

a great podcast. I love, I

59:13

love hearing these things, having these

59:15

guys just come back on. And

59:17

you know, Gary's changing over time

59:19

too from the first time that

59:22

he's been on. He's focusing on

59:24

different things now. and laying out

59:26

different protocols and the more of

59:29

those types of people that Rogan

59:31

has on, and again with moderation,

59:33

you pick and choose the elements

59:36

that you can afford that make

59:38

sense to you, that you can try, especially

59:40

if you don't feel good, at least

59:42

then you have options, right? If

59:45

you do the same thing, you're gonna

59:47

feel the same way. But if you're

59:49

hearing some different things and

59:51

you're like, I could probably

59:53

add this. If it's not going to

59:55

hurt you give it a shot and see

59:57

how you feel and mix it up.

59:59

But anyway back to what Nick

1:00:02

was saying get better sleep. That's

1:00:04

number one. I'm pretty sure

1:00:06

that's number one I like it.

1:00:08

Thanks a lot Nick as always

1:00:11

appreciate it and We'll talk to

1:00:13

you guys next week