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that God can heal
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you everywhere you
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heard. I'm so honored
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that God has allowed me to
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teach his word. And, you know,
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I'm going to read you a
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scripture and then I'm just going
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to show you a little
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example. I believe that many
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of you, God has called you to
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do something and you kind
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of know it, but you get so
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wrapped up and all the
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stuff that you're doing, doing,
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doing, doing that you just
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forget about it. And I
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think... Some of you had a dream,
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you've lost your dream, it was taking
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too long, you gave up on it,
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whatever, you had a vision. And you
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don't all have a vision to do
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something like what I'm doing, but I
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don't care if it's a dream to
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clean your closet out. You need to
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have, you need to be going somewhere.
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You need to be making some kind
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of progress in your life and
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having something that you look forward
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to. We're not meant to
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just stagnate and do the same
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day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, Wednesday,
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Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Thursday, Thursday, Thursday,
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and gripe and murmur and complain.
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We need to have vision and
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purpose for our lives. Amen. And
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so, Genesis 15, 1 through 6,
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says, after these things, the word
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of the Lord came to Abraham
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in a vision, saying, fear not
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Abraham, I am your shield. I
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am your shield. your abundant compensation,
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and your reward shall be exceedingly
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great." And Abraham said, Lord, what
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can you give me since I'm
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going on from the world childless?
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And he who shall be the
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owner and the heir of my
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house is this steward elisier of
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Damascus. He had no error, and
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he was going to have to
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leave everything he had to, a
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servant who worked for him. And
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Abraham continued, you've given me no
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child. And a servant born in
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my house is my heir. And
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behold, the word of the Lord
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came to him saying, let me
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stop here and say, yes, God
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does speak to you. I don't
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know why people, I don't know,
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if you talk to God, it's
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prayer, but if he talks to
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you, you're crazy. And I mean,
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all through the Bible, from beginning
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to the end, God spoke... to
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his people and we are no
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different. God shows us things and
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he tells us things. And the
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word of the Lord came to
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him saying this man shall not
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be your heir, but he who
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shall come from your own body
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shall be your heir. Now I
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want to tell you that it
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didn't happen right away. As a
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fact, it didn't happen for a
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long time. And you know, when
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we... Wait and we wait and
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we wait and we wait and
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we wait. I mean if you're
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waiting... Well, part of
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the reason why God brought
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you here is for me
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to remind you not to
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give up. Amen. And I
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love this part, and I
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think this is what God's
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done with you this weekend.
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He brought him outside his
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tent into the starlight. So
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I've got my tent here.
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And this tent represents... Your
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life, your house, your neighborhood,
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your job, and some of
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you have been in it
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so long, you've forgotten the
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vision and the dream that
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God gave you. And Abraham
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believed God, that's all God
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wants you to do, is
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just trust him, just believe
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him. No matter how impossible
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it seems, just keep saying
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God I believe you. And
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he brought him outside, and
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he said, look at the
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stars. He brought him outside
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of his tent, and I
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love that. It's like he'd
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been in there so long,
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he'd lost his vision. And
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God brought him out and
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said, get your mind off
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all that stuff and remember
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what I said to you.
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And I think that's what
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God is saying to many
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of you tonight. You've
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had your nose stuck in
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just the ordinary for so
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long That it's time to
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remember the extraordinary thing Come
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on that God wants to
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do in your life. Amen
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All right, come on make
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more noise than that for
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Jesus Okay, well I've been
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in ministry 45 years the
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first five years all I
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did was teach a couple
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of home Bible studies and
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I was faithful to 25
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people who sat in my
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living room for five years.
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And those first five years
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were testing ground for me
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and God was testing my
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faithfulness. I didn't make any
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money for it. I eventually
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quit my job so I
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could study just to do
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that and I had this
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dream of doing what I'm
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doing what I'm doing today.
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But it certainly didn't seem
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then like it was going
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to happen when I looked
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at those same 25 people
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every week And I just
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want to tell you if
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you want to see God
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do extraordinary things in your
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life You're going to have
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to be patient Because one
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thing God is not is
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in a hurry Most of
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you have figured that out
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by now, right? And
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God will test you. And sometimes
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it'll look like there's no way
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that what he spoke to you
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is going to come to pass.
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And those are times when against
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all odds you need to say,
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God, I trust you. I don't
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understand this. It hurts. It doesn't
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feel good. It doesn't make any
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sense. But I trust you. Now
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I didn't know how to do
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that back when I was going
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through this. And so all my
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suffering you get to benefit from
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because now I can tell you
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the right way to do it
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Even though I didn't know the
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right way to do it I
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had to learn it the hard
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way I didn't have anybody to
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tell me people asked me sometimes
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who mentored you and I know
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what? The holy spirit I didn't
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have a me to preach To
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people every day on TV and
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TV and day star and all
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these places around the world matter
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of fact when I started doing
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this there wasn't Very many women
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who did and especially not anything
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on any kind of a large
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scale. But now thank God women
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are finding out that they've got
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quite a bit going on if
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they'll just let God use them.
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Amen. And I want to tell
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you something and I want you
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to please believe this. Now some
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of you may be called to
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a pulpit ministry but... That is
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not that is by far not
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the most important thing that you
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could be called to do More
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people are going to be one
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one on one Then are ever
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going to be one From a
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place like this and what is
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so important to me is that
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I can get you to understand
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how important you are Quit
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gawking at people like me
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and saying, I wish I
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had a ministry like Johnny.
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You know what? You probably
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don't. Because I want to
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tell you, this is a
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very little tiny part of
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what I have to do
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to stand here and do
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this. And so, if God
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makes you do it, do
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it. But if not, be
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happy to minister to your
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neighbor. Amen. And
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you've all got a pulpit.
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Every single one of you
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have got a pulpit. It
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may be your backyard fence.
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It may be your desk
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at work. It may be
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why you're checking out at
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the grocery counter. And you
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don't always have to preach
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to people. Matter of fact,
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sometimes it's better to live
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it instead of talking and
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not living it. Amen.
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Everybody thinks witness is getting
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somebody in a corner and
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preaching the gospel to them,
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but you witness more with
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your life than you ever
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will, probably with your mouth.
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Amen. So tonight I want
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to talk to you about,
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if I could go back
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and do it all over
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again, what would I change?
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First of all, you can't
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do that. The
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main thing that you can
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do from your mistakes is
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learn from them. And then
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part of the privilege I
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have is I've been able
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to use the mistakes that
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I've made then to help
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other people, hopefully not make
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them. But most people go
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ahead and make them anyway
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because we're kind of dumb.
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And we just got to
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figure it out for ourselves.
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Amen. I've
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been through some stuff. So
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first of all, the first thing
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I would not do if I
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could do it over again is
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I wouldn't marry the first guy
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that I married, which was not
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Dave. I left home when
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I was 18. My father had
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been sexually abusing me for as
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long as I could remember. I
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was probably somewhere around... 12
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to 15 years. It's all I
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ever remember, so I don't know
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if I was three, four, five,
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or six, but I know I
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was very, very little. And my
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mother knew it. She let
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fear rule her life. That's why
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I hate fear so much. And
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her fear kept her from doing
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anything to protect me. And it
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just destroyed her life, ruined her
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life. As soon as I
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graduated from high school, I left
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home. And I was 18 in
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June and graduated that same time.
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So I was 18 years
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old. old when I left home
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and I thought that I had
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got away from my problem. I
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didn't realize that I took it
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with me and my soul. See
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you can look perfectly fine
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on the outside and be an
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absolute total mess on the inside.
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And that's really what most of
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us are. We smile at each
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other in church and say praise
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the Lord and thank you
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Jesus. Glory to God and how
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are you? I'm fine. Thank you,
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Jesus. And we're not fine. And
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one of the things we
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need to do is get honest
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with each other. Have some honest
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sincere talks with people you can
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trust and say, I need help,
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I need help from God. Things
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are not right. We need
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to stop blaming everybody else
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for the messes in our
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life and take responsibility. But
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I'll get to that in
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a few minutes. Now, I
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married the first guy that
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asked me because I was
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desperate. I thought nobody would
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ever want me because I'd
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been sexually abused and so...
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This guy was
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handsome, he was
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good looking, I
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thought it was
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a bargain. I
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knew, I knew,
13:34
I was making
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a mistake. It
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was just a
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little, gnawing, but
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I was afraid,
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and I was
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desperate. So
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I did it anyway. And
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I just want to tell
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you, don't do that. Don't
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be so desperate. that you
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do something dumb, it's going
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to end up causing you
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problems for years and years
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and years. Abraham was waiting
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for God to give him
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a son, and God told
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him it would be a
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son from his own body.
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Not he wasn't going to
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have the baby, but from
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his own body. And
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they got tired of
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waiting, so they got
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a fleshly plan on
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how they're going to
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get God's will. We
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never do that, do
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we? Right idea. I
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know what God wants
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me to do. as
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a secondary wife. Now
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you gotta be dumb
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if you give your
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husband another wife. But
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just to be fair,
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culturally that was not
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that far outside of
15:02
normal then. And I
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frankly can't imagine how
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that worked. But anyway,
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you know, it's like
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you can have them
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tonight. I'll get them
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tomorrow now, you know.
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That wouldn't work too
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good, I don't think.
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And, um... So
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he got her pregnant and
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they had Ishmael now here's
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what I want to tell
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you 13 years later I
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think it was they had
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Isaac I don't know how
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many years I may be
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wrong about that but long
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time later and If you
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get messed up with Ishmael,
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it's going to take a
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lot longer to get Isaac
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Now you gotta you know
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get in the spirit with
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me here a little bit
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What I'm saying is if
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you go off and do
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your own thing, then it's
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going to take longer to
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get the thing that God
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had in mind for you.
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And so you may get
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tired of waiting, but if
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you get tired of waiting
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and go off and do
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your own thing, you're just
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going to make yourself wait
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longer. And the enemy will
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always... Dangle-ish
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mail in your face
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while you're waiting for
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Isaac. I remember I
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was in California and
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I wanted to do,
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I wanted to preach
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like I get to
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now so bad I
16:45
couldn't hardly stand it.
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And everything I did
16:49
was little, little, little,
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little. And I didn't
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have any little dreams.
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I'm not a person
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that likes living. I
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like everything big, you
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know? If you're gonna
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do it, do it.
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If you're gonna wear
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it, let it sparkle.
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Make it shine. And,
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uh... I like a
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big bathroom. I like...
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I want space. And,
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uh... I was
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in California, I had gotten
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a speaking engagement, which I
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was so thrilled to have,
17:29
and I was laying across
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my bed one day and
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praying about a situation that
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had come up because a
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man had came to Dave
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and I, and he was...
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I guess you'd call him
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an agent, and he said,
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you're really... good at what
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you're doing and if you'll
17:52
I'd like to take you
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on as a client and
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be your agent and I
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can I can get you
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speaking engagements I can get
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you here and I can
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get you there and I
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can do this and that
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and something else. Well that
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was my issue now and
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you don't know how bad
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I wanted to say yes
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but as I laid across
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that bed that afternoon I
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knew down deep in here
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that God said I'll
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do what needs
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to be done.
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I'll get you
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invited to places.
18:40
I'll open the
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doors for you.
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Don't do this.
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And I'm so
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glad I didn't.
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Because I might
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have missed what
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God has for
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my life. And
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I just want you to
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be so careful, because the
19:04
Bible says in the last
19:06
days there's going to be
19:08
great deception. Great deception coming
19:10
on the earth. And that
19:12
means that you can't listen
19:14
to how you feel, and
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you can't listen to your
19:18
own carnal mind. You've got
19:20
to really go to the
19:22
word and listen for that
19:24
still small voice of God.
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And many times it doesn't
19:29
come in words, it's just,
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you just know, it's just,
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I just wish God would
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shout sometimes. But he whispers.
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And you got to pay
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attention to those whispers. And
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I don't know why he
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doesn't just come and sit
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on my bed and say
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joys do this, joys do
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that. I don't know why
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he makes it so hard
19:53
sometimes to, but he wants
19:55
us to press him to
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press him to him. And
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he wants us to take the
20:02
time for some things like this.
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Not just because of what I'm
20:06
going to say, but just the
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fellowship you're going to have with
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other people, the worship, just getting
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away, getting outside your tent, and
20:15
getting your vision fresh again. And
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some of you, if you did
20:19
come by yourself, man, two days
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in a hotel room by yourself,
20:24
could be the greatest thing that
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ever happened to you. Amen.
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Listen for that still small voice
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and don't do dumb things. Because
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isn't that we learn everything when
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we're just being stupid? And we
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think we're so smart. We think
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we, you know, are doing just
20:42
the right thing and we're just
20:44
doing the dumbest stuff and then,
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you know, God comes along, gets
20:48
us out of it and and
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then on top of that, uses
20:53
it works it out for good
20:55
in our lives. So
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I married this guy and we
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were married five years and probably
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in those five years we maybe
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lived together six months and He
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had more problems than me if
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that was possible and he was
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a con man Smooth talker good-looking
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lazy didn't want to work He
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was a used car salesman and
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they just not that there's anything
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wrong with him Not trying to
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be rude to anybody, but he
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just liked to hang out on
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the car lot and pretend to
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be a big shot and never
21:29
made much money. And what he
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did, I never saw any of
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it. And I mean, I woke
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up one night and he was
21:37
trying to get my wedding ring
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off my finger so he could
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sell it. You know? And I
21:44
cannot even tell you how many
21:46
times. The guy just disappeared. In
21:48
those five years, he would... Leave
21:50
to go somewhere and he wouldn't
21:52
come back for four months or
21:54
five months and then I mean,
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he abandoned me in California one
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time and he... 18 years old
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and he took me to Albuquerque,
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New Mexico and back then they
22:05
would pay people to drive cars
22:07
to other places if somebody wanted
22:09
to buy a certain car in
22:11
another state. They'd pay somebody if
22:13
the car was here to drive
22:15
it there. Well, that was what
22:18
he did to make money and
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so he talked me into some
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stupid stuff. He talked me into
22:24
stealing some money from the company
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that I worked for and writing
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some... payroll checks that
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weren't mine and cash in
22:32
them and He sold my
22:34
car and we took off,
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you know for this great
22:39
life and Before by the
22:41
way God made me go
22:43
pay that money back to
22:45
them eventually and that was
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quite interesting You know I
22:49
go in 15 years later
22:51
I'm a Christian and I
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stole some money from you
22:55
one time God
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told me something, give it
23:00
back to you. And I'm
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not saying, you know, you
23:04
don't have to do what
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I did, but you know,
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when God does tell you
23:11
to do something, you better
23:13
do it. And that's part
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of the problem we have
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today is people are doing
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what they please instead of
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doing what God tells them
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to do. Are
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you following your dreams? When God
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calls you to do something, it's
23:31
important to step out in faith
23:33
and trust that he will support
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you. Faith is one of those
23:37
words that is commonly used, but
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not always easy to understand. So
23:42
what is faith? Faith is a
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complete trust and confidence in something
23:46
or somewhat. As Christians, faith goes
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so much deeper. Our confidence and
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trust are secure in God and
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his promises. But you might say,
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I don't feel God or I
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don't see anything he's doing. But
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that's what faith means. And let's
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be real. It isn't always easy.
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Joyce's book, Unleash Your Faith, is
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today's offer. And it's going to
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help you increase your faith. It's
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filled with beautifully illustrated scriptures because
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faith comes as we hear the
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word of God. Joyce also shares
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three practical ways to put your
24:19
faith into action. Today's offer, unleash
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your faith, also comes with battlefield
24:24
of the mind New Testament. which
24:26
contains Joyce's commentary. Both of these
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resources are available to you for
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your gift of $30 or more.
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Call us today at 1,800, 331,
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8,000 or visit us online at
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joycemyre.org. Most of the time if
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you're going to live by faith,
24:42
if you want to really find
24:44
out what God can do for
24:46
you, you are going to have
24:48
to so to speak take a
24:51
chance. Living by faith means you'll
24:53
often have to take step one
24:55
before you know what the next
24:57
step is. Living by faith requires
24:59
you to take risks because God's
25:02
plan for you are always bigger
25:04
than what you could ever accomplish
25:06
or even imagine on your own.
25:08
Faith is your fuel. As you
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read, unleash your faith. You will
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be fed by the beautifully illustrated
25:15
scriptures. In it, Joyce will help
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you to understand the power of
25:19
faith that God has put in
25:22
your spirit and how to release
25:24
it. And remember, your financial gift
25:26
will not only provide the help
25:28
you need through this resource, but
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it will also help reach the
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lost, beat the hungry, and help
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women and girls find freedom all
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around the world. Your gift today
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makes it all possible possible. Put
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your faith into action learn how
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with today's offer unleash your faith
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along with battlefield of the mind
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new testament with commentary by Joyce
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You know we talked to
25:52
you about partnership with Joyce
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Meyer Ministries all the time
25:56
because we love to because
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it is such a beautiful
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thing. We tell you about
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how you can share Christ
26:05
all over the world through
26:07
humanitarian aid, through things like
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what is happening right now,
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teaching young women a skill
26:13
to keep them out of
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human trafficking, feeding the hungry,
26:17
providing medical care, and presenting
26:19
the truth of God's word
26:21
through Joyce's teaching. But just
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let me tell you between
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you and me as friends,
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okay friend? If you want
26:29
more joy in your life,
26:31
if you want more purpose,
26:33
if you want to do
26:35
something that will bring a
26:37
huge smile to your face
26:39
and many others, then partnership
26:41
is the thing for you.
26:43
We see it all over
26:45
the world and I have
26:47
personally received so much joy
26:49
from it. So I invite
26:51
you once again. to pray
26:53
and consider becoming a partner
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with Joyce Meyer Ministries. It
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means giving on a regular
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basis to present the gospel
27:01
and provide for these humanitarian
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aid outreaches everywhere through hand
27:05
of hope. It means doing
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your best, doing what you
27:10
can, and then you are
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right here with us. everywhere
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we go making a huge
27:16
impact. Go to our website
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right now Joyce meyer.org to
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find out more information and
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how you can begin an
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amazing journey in your own
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life. Everybody want to say
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hi to our friends? Joyce
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Join Joyce. Aaron Cluelly and
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me, Ginger Stockey, along with
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some amazing friends. As we
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honestly share the hard stuff,
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laugh through those unpredictable moments
27:42
and learn to apply what
27:44
God says about it all.
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Sometimes you just need to
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talk about life with your
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girlfriends. So we have a
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spot saved on the pink
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couch. for you. Watch or
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listen to new episodes every
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Tuesday wherever you get your
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podcasts. We hope you enjoy
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today's program. We are so
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grateful to our Joyce Meyer
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Ministries partners who make this
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and all we do possible,
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including sharing God's word and
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offering help to people in
28:14
need all over the world.
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This program has been made
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possible by the partners of
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Joyce Meyer Ministries. If you
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want to feel more connected
28:25
to humanity and a little
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less alone, listen to Beautiful
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Anonymous. Each week I take
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a phone call from one
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random anonymous human being. There's
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feel connected to all these
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different people all over the
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world. Recent episodes include one
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where a lady survived a
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murder attempt by her own
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son, but then the week
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before that we just talked
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about Star Trek. It can
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be anything. It's unpredictable. It's
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raw. It's real. Get Beautiful
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