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we have returning guest at

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2:24

now. Emily. Welcome back to the show.

2:27

Hi Juan, always a pleasure to spend a

2:29

few hours with you my friend. Yes, yes.

2:31

And before we get into it, Emily, where

2:33

can people find you and your work, your

2:35

channel? You're so good about all this

2:38

stuff. You say all your things before you

2:40

get started. Like I always forget to do

2:42

all of mine. My YouTube channel is my

2:44

name, Emily Moyer. I put some stuff there

2:47

like I do my live streams with Danny

2:49

and with Robert Phoenix there and I post

2:51

occasional episodes if I feel like they're

2:53

sort of suited suited for that.

2:56

of strange mosaic and some other

2:58

things there. But I'm also

3:00

on patron.com forward slash off-planet

3:03

media. Emilymoyer. locals.com and Rockfin.com/Emily

3:05

moyer. In 2025 I will

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be embarking on a new

3:09

project and as part of

3:12

that I will also probably

3:14

be on odyssey as well.

3:16

And I think hopefully if

3:18

this goes in any way

3:21

that I'm hoping this will

3:23

be my great work. And then

3:25

we'll see where we are. My website

3:27

is also Emily Seymourier.com. If

3:30

you are interested in the

3:32

weird shit I talk about or the

3:34

weird stories I tell, I offer

3:36

storytelling sessions and I have also

3:38

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3:41

need help getting that shit in

3:43

order, I can help you with that too.

3:45

All right. Now we've got all the

3:47

bullshit out of the way. We're ready to

3:49

go. Now we have all the business out of

3:52

the way. What'd you think you you

3:54

want to start with cattle like I made you

3:56

watch a movie now? Now I know you one.

3:58

I know that we got a comment on

4:00

one of the last videos that

4:03

I posted from an episode we

4:05

did a while back where you mentioned

4:07

the I-O or A-O whatever that the

4:09

the name of that show is and they're

4:11

like Emily's brought it up for the

4:14

fifth time or something like that Juan

4:16

still hasn't watched the show so I

4:18

got to do you a solid because

4:20

you did watch the movie and that movie

4:23

I did do a patron episode

4:25

where we broke down the movie

4:27

I was with writer Lee We broke down

4:29

the entire movie and talked about it,

4:31

the lure behind the lake. And I think

4:33

that it really fit into a lot of

4:35

the crevices and things that we talk about.

4:37

And it answered a bunch of questions for

4:40

me. So what did you think about it,

4:42

Emily? So I watched it that night. So

4:44

I did you that hard solid it.

4:46

And not only did I watch it,

4:48

I like took away any concerns that

4:50

I would say I did, but didn't

4:52

really or anything like that. We watched

4:54

it that night and we really liked

4:56

it. Like Laura sometimes, I think when

4:58

you hear M Knight, Shamalya or whatever,

5:00

you kind of think it's going to

5:02

be like, yeah, it might be

5:04

horror, it might be like disturbing weird

5:07

and whatever. But this was definitely

5:09

not. So. Sure, this is perfect for

5:11

you and I to talk about. And

5:13

like in some weird way, we'll

5:15

see if by the end of this

5:18

episode, I can thread this needle.

5:20

It's also connected to the Imagineal Theater

5:22

on some level. And I'll see if

5:24

I could, it just just dawned

5:26

on me today on some level when

5:29

I was listening to you with

5:31

your wine rant on the Imagineal

5:33

Theater. Next time? Was it bad?

5:36

No it was great like but like that's

5:38

it's fun to do it like that

5:40

sometimes next time you're like drinking

5:42

and driving call me and let me

5:45

know I'll come on and you can

5:47

drink wine and wander and I'll drink

5:49

bourbon and or mescal and we can

5:51

I'm not gonna do a driving but

5:53

I'm just joking the one on one bus

5:56

right it was yeah I felt like that

5:58

was actually a that I did that video

6:00

and two takes so at one point

6:02

in the middle of the video it's

6:05

a whole another day of the week because

6:07

I was like I had to stop there

6:09

because I had so many I

6:11

this is what happens the problem

6:13

for me when I talk to

6:15

someone like you someone like Thomas

6:18

or whatever is every sentence you

6:20

say leads to an hour worth

6:22

of contemplation for me about something

6:24

So, like, if I watch too

6:26

much, then I get confused and

6:28

I can't keep my thoughts straight,

6:30

right? So, but I think I

6:33

see some level of through line

6:35

that we can, maybe, that we

6:37

can sort of get to. So,

6:39

okay, so Caddo Lake, until, like,

6:41

a few weeks ago, I've never heard

6:43

of it, right? You heard, you, you

6:45

mentioned it to me when you were

6:47

on my show. By the way, we'll

6:50

discuss all of that after the, the,

6:52

the, public portion is going to go

6:54

public tonight. My patrons have already had

6:56

it. But we talked about cattle lake.

6:58

I never heard of cattle lake before,

7:00

even though I live in Texas and

7:03

I've been living here on and off

7:05

for more than 20 years. I never

7:07

heard of it, which I think is

7:09

pretty interesting. And we already, just from

7:11

what you were telling me and from

7:13

me looking at it on the map

7:16

and watching the little trailer, we were

7:18

already starting to pluck it some pretty

7:20

relevant topics and ideas. I found the

7:23

most, you know, sort of

7:25

interesting or useful or

7:27

whatever it is, is that

7:29

what that movie displayed

7:31

in terms of like the

7:33

process that seemed to be

7:36

happening, that's actually

7:38

exactly what I think

7:40

is going on here

7:42

in Austin on Lady Bird

7:44

Lake. Right? And so this is

7:46

something now. Is it possible? that

7:48

you hear about the murder, the

7:51

serial killer, the lady Bird Lake

7:53

serial killer, or you hear people

7:55

wondering if it's a smiley face

7:57

killer, there's a variety of different

7:59

fears. and documentaries and things about

8:01

this on YouTube. But I will

8:03

tell you this, that one's pretty

8:05

popular that you just passed, I've

8:07

watched that one, I've watched a

8:09

lot of these. All of them,

8:12

and there's some, like people

8:14

from the alternative media who's proposed

8:16

ideas, all of them are only

8:18

considering things from one perspective. And

8:21

I'd say most of them are

8:23

not, their perspective is not wrong,

8:25

it's just one of many

8:27

things that are going on.

8:30

Right and this show would

8:32

would basically the Cotto Lake

8:34

sort of set up a

8:36

framework for how Something like

8:38

this would work in which

8:41

all kinds of All kinds

8:43

of theories could be simultaneously

8:45

true without offending each other

8:47

other than the egos of

8:49

the person who thinks that

8:52

their narrative is the only

8:54

right one When I saw

8:56

this poster, I said, hmm, Lady

8:58

Bird, this looks like an A24

9:00

film as soon as I scroll

9:02

down, boom, A24. Ah, I've not seen

9:04

this. What is this about? So

9:06

is a solo director of view,

9:08

Greta, Gerowig, and on various

9:11

mumble core films. What

9:13

is mumble core? What is that?

9:15

I don't know, but it's set

9:17

in Sacramento, which is where my

9:19

mom is from, and I was

9:22

just in Sacramento a few weeks

9:24

ago. theoretically or so the plot

9:26

is senior Immaculate

9:28

Heart of Mary Catholic High

9:31

School despite her famous finish

9:33

she long said 10 prestige blah

9:36

blah blah right during a ride

9:38

okay all right all right I don't

9:40

I don't know it doesn't seem

9:42

that interesting doesn't

9:44

seem that interesting

9:47

I'll look at it closely later

9:49

when we're not on sporting.

9:51

But so you have a scenario

9:54

where you have like a

9:56

very small town that is on

9:58

one part of a lake. you

10:00

have some very

10:02

interesting trees that are

10:04

sort of in the water,

10:07

you have a dam, and

10:09

then you have this sort

10:11

of mystery that sort of

10:13

creates a strange

10:16

loop regarding a certain

10:18

family in this town,

10:20

right? And the resolution

10:23

to the story basically

10:25

comes at the exact

10:27

moment. that sort of

10:29

one of the central

10:31

characters sort of dies

10:34

in his attempt to close

10:36

the loop. Right. And so you

10:38

have people having experiences

10:40

with time and

10:42

on some level there was

10:45

some dimension aspect to

10:47

it or some different version

10:50

aspect to it but it

10:52

mostly sort of revolved around

10:54

time and this condition. with

10:57

epilepsy and ear bleeding and

10:59

you know tones and things

11:02

like that. And then you've

11:04

got this strange these strange

11:07

trees which seem to be

11:09

the area or the zone

11:12

of the lake where

11:14

the rift or the

11:16

anomaly seems most like

11:18

most prevalent or most

11:21

prevalent or whatever it

11:23

is. The situation here in

11:26

Austin is this Austin, Lady

11:28

Bird Lake is one of

11:30

seven lakes that are dammed

11:32

up around the city of

11:35

Austin. It is the

11:37

Colorado River in Texas,

11:39

dammed into lakes. So

11:41

they're man-made lakes,

11:43

right? Reservoirs, yeah. Okay.

11:46

And since for, for, at

11:48

this point, 60, 75

11:50

years, people have been

11:52

going missing or dying

11:55

in somewhat mysterious ways

11:57

with clusters happening at

11:59

certain times and then nothing

12:02

for quite a bit, quite a

12:04

long time, right? And you have

12:06

a scenario where the Austin

12:08

Police Department is insisting

12:11

that most of these

12:13

are accidents and that

12:15

they're unrelated. They're all

12:17

accidents or suicides and

12:19

are unrelated. And you have

12:22

the people of Austin after all

12:24

of these years. Finally. becoming

12:26

somewhat insistent that

12:28

there's something else

12:30

going on here.

12:33

And there's a lot of

12:35

narratives around it. There's

12:38

ideas about like a

12:40

sort of a drugging

12:42

and theft ring. There's

12:44

ideas of the Smiley

12:46

Face killer. There's ideas

12:48

of, right, but the, the. You

12:50

know, the other thing is that, so

12:53

Lady Bird Lake used to be called

12:55

Town Lake. It's about 10 years ago,

12:57

they officially changed the name. But one

13:00

of the, the lore in Texas is

13:02

always, you can't go swimming in Lady

13:04

Bird Lake. And there's like a few

13:06

layers of reasons. So the first

13:09

layer is, is that there's some

13:11

sort of bacteria or algae in

13:13

the water that's not good for

13:15

humans, right? And that's why you

13:17

can't go swimming in the lake. But

13:20

as soon as you dig

13:22

through and realize that that's

13:24

not actually true, the next

13:26

layer of the cover-up is that

13:28

there's a strong undertow

13:30

in the water and it's not

13:32

safe, right? And then you kind

13:34

of dig past that. An undertow,

13:36

right? Right, you get to this point

13:39

where you start to recognize

13:41

that when people go missing

13:43

in the lake, they don't

13:45

really put much effort into

13:47

looking for them. which is

13:49

weird, and that there are

13:51

anomalous things that seem to

13:54

happen on the lake where people

13:56

seem to lose their orientation,

13:59

right? I literally watched with

14:01

my eyes, Austin Parks and Rec

14:03

helicopter, go down into the water,

14:06

like the way we hear that

14:08

like things disappear into the

14:10

Bermuda triangle, and the pilot

14:12

of it was really confused about

14:15

what happened. He did survive, but

14:17

he had like virtually no memory

14:19

of it. And I also had

14:22

this really strange interaction with the

14:24

gentleman one day. We were, Laura

14:26

and I were out exercising.

14:29

And we're running this way and

14:31

he's running towards us and passes

14:33

us. And then a few minutes

14:35

later, we feel someone coming up

14:38

behind us and we look and

14:40

it's this guy who passed us

14:42

about five minutes earlier. And he's

14:44

getting really close to us and

14:46

we could tell that he was

14:49

wanting to be near us or

14:51

wanting to talk to us. And he tells

14:53

us that he's confused, that he

14:55

had a seizure and fell in

14:57

the water. he got out of

14:59

the water and he's disoriented and

15:02

he is soaking wet so like he

15:04

seems like he's been in the water

15:06

and he walks with us for about

15:08

half an hour right and in the beginning

15:10

we were a little nervous because

15:12

we got to this one area right

15:14

near the power plant where he's

15:17

walking with us and there's a

15:19

car blocking the path and I've never

15:21

seen that before and almost like that

15:23

car pulled into that spot to like

15:26

it felt like it was there to

15:28

sort of meet us or intercept us and

15:30

so we both got pretty anxious but

15:32

we passed it and nothing seemed to

15:34

happen and he started talking to us

15:37

and he started telling me about some

15:39

specific kind of epilepsy that he has

15:41

and that he goes to this doctor

15:43

and I remembered the doctor's name and

15:45

later I did look her up and that

15:47

is a real brain doctor in Austin. but

15:50

he seemed confused what he was telling

15:52

me was that the street that he

15:54

was looking for didn't look right. So

15:56

he was saying I'm looking for like

15:59

Navasota or whatever. episode is a street

16:01

in that area of Austin. But he was

16:03

saying that the thing that's supposed to

16:05

be, it looked different. Like what he

16:07

was looking for on that street wasn't

16:10

there, right? And he just seemed confused.

16:12

Like he seemed to like, he didn't

16:14

seem crazy. He didn't seem to be

16:16

on drugs. He didn't seem stupid. You

16:18

know, it seemed like he was

16:20

perplexed about the version of Austin.

16:22

He found himself in, which was

16:25

mostly familiar, but missing. marker points for

16:27

him to know like where he would

16:29

normally turn on the trail and whatnot.

16:31

He walked with us for about half

16:33

an hour and then we parted ways and

16:36

since then, so it's like two years ago,

16:38

I talked about it on a show of

16:40

Michael before, since then I have seen him

16:42

a couple of times around town and

16:44

always time, actually not around town, have

16:47

always seen him in Whole Foods, I've

16:49

seen him like three times in the

16:51

same Whole Foods, and every time he

16:53

looks at me, but he can't quite

16:55

place it. Right? And he's always like

16:57

talking to the cashier or talking

16:59

to the security guard that stands

17:02

out front of the market or

17:04

whatever it is. But he always looks

17:07

at me in this way, like, that's

17:09

more, that's meaningful, right? That is

17:11

kind of interesting. I've never

17:13

approached him and talked to

17:15

him. I'm not, I'm almost

17:17

certain he wouldn't remember,

17:19

right? And so over the time that I've

17:22

been back here, like I knew that

17:24

when I used to live here

17:26

back in the late 90s or

17:28

early 2000s, that there were stories

17:31

of people going missing in the

17:33

lake, but I was still buying

17:35

the stories about the algae or

17:38

the undertow or whatever. But

17:40

with all of the things that

17:42

I have come to understand

17:44

about what's really going on

17:46

in Austin here with technology and

17:48

lots of other stuff, I

17:51

think it's impossible that

17:53

this, portal between

17:56

dimensions or some

17:58

sort of timeline. I

18:00

don't know, something is happening with

18:02

the water where people are being

18:05

attracted to it or people are

18:07

recognizing that there's

18:09

something going on there. I see

18:11

a lot of homeless people and

18:13

like graffiti taggers and stuff doing

18:16

things that we seem to need

18:18

to be like leaving breadcrumbs or

18:20

hints for themselves about like

18:22

how to find their way

18:25

back to something. I see like

18:27

people. pick a spot where they're going

18:29

to sit. There was a gentleman who

18:32

was sitting under the bridge on 1st

18:34

Street. He didn't move from the same

18:36

spot for two years. That fool didn't

18:38

go to the bathroom. He peed in

18:40

his fucking pants. He wasn't on drugs.

18:43

He wasn't on drugs. He wasn't crazy.

18:45

He was nice. I brought him food

18:47

one time. But he always sat there

18:49

staring in the same direction. There was

18:51

another older gentleman on the other side

18:54

of the lake who had a tent

18:56

that he was just gone. The guy that

18:58

I was talking about that's under

19:00

the bridge, like finally after two

19:02

years, the police put up notices

19:04

that he didn't move, that, you know,

19:06

if people didn't move from their spots,

19:08

they were going to get, you know,

19:10

be arrested. He was gone. I don't know

19:12

if he was arrested. But what it

19:15

always felt like to me, based on

19:17

the position he was sitting in, what

19:19

it faced and what was around it,

19:21

that he was staring at what he

19:23

knew to be some kind of portal,

19:26

or like waiting for someone who like

19:28

he was supposed to be meeting up

19:30

with but got lost in the dimension,

19:32

whatever the fuck it is, right? Like

19:35

he didn't take his eyes off of

19:37

this area, right? And some of

19:39

the people who there's there's some

19:41

through lines with some of the

19:44

people who have either gone missing

19:46

or turned up dead. There's even

19:48

people who like have survived and

19:50

have some memory of what happened

19:53

to them or. whatnot. And I've talked

19:55

about some of this on shows before. It's been

19:57

a while, so I don't remember all of the

19:59

details. But all of these, all of the

20:01

places where the people go missing or

20:04

are found are locations that I have

20:06

identified as anomalous that I have had

20:08

weird things happen to me there, that

20:10

I have seen weird stuff that are

20:12

at the center of like what I

20:15

call the portion of the lake that

20:17

I where I see like the reflective

20:19

reality. I don't know if I've ever

20:21

shown you any of the pictures that

20:23

I take of the lake where literally

20:26

there's like a perfectly upside down Austin.

20:28

that you can see in the water

20:30

that has such an eerie sense of

20:32

definition to it that I asked myself

20:34

the question, are we in the real

20:37

world or is that the real world?

20:39

Are there two Austin's? Are they connected?

20:41

Do some of these buildings go much

20:43

farther down into the ground? So they're

20:45

literally like... you know, not just top

20:47

up that there's like a full

20:50

other building underneath the ground down

20:52

there going the other way. Like the

20:54

anomalies on this lake have made

20:56

so much content for me over

20:58

the last couple of years. And it

21:01

seems to be some kind of

21:03

like way station or junction between

21:05

timelines or between moving back

21:07

and forth in time or wrapping

21:09

around. or dimension, like maybe there's

21:11

other versions of Austin and the

21:13

lake is like somehow you go

21:15

in the lake. I've played with

21:17

the idea that it's bottomless that

21:19

right, like that it's like an

21:21

inland ocean and it's very very

21:23

deep. You go in the water

21:25

and you don't necessarily come out

21:27

in the same version. There's topography

21:29

and geology around the lake that.

21:32

makes there's some areas where it's

21:34

like tropical there's palm trees other

21:36

areas where it's like you're in

21:39

the woods cedar trees like oak

21:41

tree right like there's all these

21:44

different geographies like

21:46

compressed here right so maybe

21:48

it's kind of a you know

21:50

an access point to many different

21:52

times or versions or versions of

21:55

the location and then of course

21:57

there's the movie the Congress

21:59

right which is, you know, have you

22:01

ever seen the movie The Congress? No.

22:03

So it's an Alamo, it's an Alamo

22:05

Draft House film, which Alamo

22:07

Draft House is an Austin

22:10

film company and movie theater.

22:12

Congress is the main street

22:14

that leads up to the

22:16

capital here in Austin. And

22:18

in the movie The Congress,

22:20

there's like this weird. underground

22:22

sort of grotto that these

22:24

people who have sold their

22:26

image and likeness sort of

22:28

to the Hollywood machine go

22:31

to interact with each other

22:33

in posts having sold their

22:35

their their their their likeness

22:37

and it's like this

22:39

underground underwater grotto and

22:41

it's very bizarre. They also

22:44

go like are in this place

22:46

where you can take a drug to

22:48

become another person. right? You can

22:50

like experience what it's like to

22:53

be someone else and whatnot. And

22:55

when I look at all of

22:57

these sewer entrances that I see

22:59

all around the lake here, like

23:02

inside and I haven't built up

23:04

the courage to go in yet,

23:06

I feel like there's something under

23:08

there. Like I don't know what

23:11

it is, but I feel like, since

23:13

I've been here, I feel like

23:15

something is trying to And I

23:18

don't know if it's

23:20

malevolent or benevolent or

23:22

whatever it is sort of

23:24

entice me into going in there

23:26

and checking it out. Right? And

23:29

yeah. So I found this this

23:31

painting. I don't know if it's

23:33

the Lady Bird Lake trailside

23:35

retaining upon Earth's Porto at

23:38

Lady Bird Lake. It's from

23:40

an artist. I found this

23:42

one. Okay. And it's 15 grand

23:45

she didn't 50 in 2020

23:47

again. I don't I don't

23:49

know anything else more but

23:51

it's interesting that we're filming

23:53

this the day before Linden

23:55

B. Johnson which Linden B.

23:57

Johnson is who wives was late

23:59

bird who the the the lake is named

24:02

after right lady bird first

24:04

lady what's her name lady

24:06

bird Johnson yep and you know

24:08

we're doing this November 21st

24:10

always happens and I have

24:12

some dates for you for

24:15

another next segment that you're

24:17

gonna blow your mind to so

24:19

I wondered like I was like

24:21

Lyndon B John what does that

24:24

sound so familiar what is he

24:26

famous for of course he's famous

24:28

because of JFK right

24:30

he would have never

24:32

been president if it weren't

24:35

for JFK being gun

24:37

down right yeah and so I

24:39

found this I don't know if

24:41

it's got anything to do

24:43

with it but you know

24:46

you're mentioning portals and there's

24:48

also the conspiracy

24:50

that there are tunnels near

24:52

the Lady Bird Lake so I've

24:54

been in some of the tunnels,

24:56

but I haven't been into these

24:59

like sewers that go right in

25:01

towards the water. So Lady Bird

25:03

Lake, Texas Secret Tunnels.

25:06

See what comes out misty that there

25:09

are secret tunnels for people and

25:11

horses that extend from the capital

25:13

all the way to Lady Bird

25:15

Lake although tunnels did exist They

25:17

were not secret or meant for

25:19

escape, but rather installed for utility.

25:21

So of course, it's just utilities

25:24

You can't swim in the water

25:26

because there's a deadly, you know,

25:28

bacteria in it, right? So that

25:30

was in 1960s that they ruled that

25:32

So it makes you wonder how for

25:34

example skin walker ranch, right, where you

25:37

have the skin walker kind of sort

25:39

of calling, they call them the water

25:41

babies that call people towards bodies of

25:43

water. And then they also, I believe

25:45

they also drown. And you're talking

25:47

about this attraction that people have when

25:50

it comes to this. And that's why

25:52

that movie was so important to me

25:54

because I'm like, oh, could this be right?

25:57

Shamalaba ding ding dong, which I'm sure is

25:59

in the no. did the movie The

26:01

Watchers, his daughter did the movie

26:03

The Watchers, which was kind of

26:06

sort of about Neflem, interdimensional portals

26:08

type of thing. Then you had this movie

26:10

that he produced, right? He wasn't

26:13

a director, he was, I think,

26:15

executive producer. And I'm like, is

26:17

this another piece of the puzzle of

26:19

people who have? neurological

26:21

disorders. And why do they have? Why

26:23

do people get MS? Are they in

26:25

the wrong timeline? Did they slip through

26:27

at some point in time? Or something

26:29

where we don't know why they have certain

26:32

things wrong with them, but they just

26:34

do. And there's no cure for it.

26:36

Well, what if it's temporal? Like what

26:39

if it's like time? time diseases is

26:41

what I call that I think is

26:43

a yeah dimensional diseases or something or

26:45

other I call that where it's like

26:48

you're in the wrong place that's why

26:50

that's happening to you yep right and forget

26:52

what's one it is but there's

26:54

a woman named Alicia Black and

26:57

she talks about how like one

26:59

of the neurological disorders because you're

27:01

processing time too quickly and so

27:03

right then what you're talking about

27:05

like that would be that like

27:08

if you're you know that seemed

27:10

to be when they were when

27:12

the time periods would come based

27:14

on weather and like what was

27:16

the deciding factor about if the

27:19

portal was going to open again

27:21

right it was the water height

27:23

it was a drought or not

27:25

there's a on the the bridge

27:27

here like there's a stairway that

27:29

shows the last time, this lake

27:31

has flooded many times and the

27:33

last time was in June 2001

27:35

and you see where that mark

27:38

is, right? Like it's super interesting,

27:40

I think it's super high, right?

27:42

And this has happened multiple times,

27:44

so I also wonder if the

27:46

water rising and or the water

27:48

receding, depending on which dimension you're

27:50

in or how the story is

27:53

going, that correlates on some

27:55

level with these clusters of...

27:57

of people either disappearing or...

27:59

you know, dying, you know, be

28:01

found dead or whatever it is.

28:03

The other part that's weird about

28:05

this is there does seem to

28:07

be some connection to a similar

28:09

thing that's happening in Chicago, right?

28:11

And almost like during some time

28:13

periods where there's not, like, whether it

28:16

be a few weeks or a few

28:18

months or a few years, where it's

28:20

not happening here, it seems to be

28:22

happening in Chicago. And what I know,

28:24

I went to Chicago for the first

28:26

time. this past year of the architecture

28:28

there. Do you like it? I did like it.

28:30

I like Chicago too. If it wasn't, if

28:32

they didn't have winter there, then it's

28:35

a place I'd consider living. If it

28:37

wasn't a shithole, I lived there. Right. So,

28:39

but not only is the architecture super

28:41

fantastic in a similar way that I

28:43

find a lot of the architecture here

28:45

to be really interesting. Literally

28:47

they have some of the exact

28:50

same buildings built by the same

28:52

architect and the difference between the

28:54

buildings. They're just bigger versions

28:56

of the one here. But they're

28:58

farther back from the water. So in

29:00

order to reflect upside down in the

29:03

way it does here, they have to

29:05

be bigger. Now, Chicago is a bigger

29:07

city. They have a higher skyline, you

29:09

know, like you can go higher than

29:12

whatever. But they're also further back. I

29:14

identified three or four buildings that

29:16

are exactly the same proportionally

29:19

as the ones in Austin.

29:21

They're just bigger there. Some of

29:23

them have the exact same name,

29:25

right? And I'm wondering if, you

29:27

know, if you know how to do

29:30

all this shit, if it's possible to

29:32

move around, right, through the water

29:34

or through the buildings, right?

29:36

And so we've got somebody

29:38

who's discovered the

29:41

multidimensional, omnidirectional.

29:43

space time reality that we live

29:46

in and they're using it to

29:48

move around and do things in

29:50

an undetected fashion and maybe there's

29:53

a serial killer or maybe there's

29:55

other people who are experimenting with

29:57

the same set of knowledge but they're

29:59

not Doing it right. They're not

30:01

making it back in time before the

30:03

window closes or they're going back in

30:06

time and fucking some shit up and

30:08

getting themselves in trouble with somebody or

30:10

it right? It's suddenly somebody like more

30:12

than fly Right the wrong timeline and he

30:15

was trying to save you to you. I'm

30:17

your brother or I'm your husband or I'm

30:19

your sister or whatever the fucking is and

30:21

they won't stop bugging you might keep your

30:23

head dashed in Yeah, and oh you're crazy

30:25

get away from me. What are you talking

30:28

about? the automatic you know a reaction

30:30

that you would give somebody like that and the

30:32

first thing that you see when you see

30:34

a homeless person go they don't they don't

30:36

have their whole thing together and all that

30:38

and an interesting part here you're

30:40

talking about skylines And I put here

30:42

the the significance of skylines and

30:45

it says this is the AI

30:47

by the way Skylans are important

30:49

for a number of reasons including

30:51

economic development a city skyline can

30:54

indicate economic development with more compact

30:56

cities having lower emissions blah blah.

30:58

Socidal values skylines reflect the society's

31:01

values as tall buildings convey sense

31:03

of importance and prestige cultural inheritance

31:05

of city skylines can indicate its

31:07

cultural inheritance. such as the division

31:10

into residential commercial and business districts

31:12

symbol of power historically skylings

31:15

have been a symbol for

31:17

power wealth and prosperity. That's

31:19

always something that you see

31:21

right like every single huge

31:23

city usually is in front of a

31:25

body of water which that says a

31:27

lot because I believe Mark had told

31:30

me one time there was this book

31:32

about rivers and how a majority

31:34

of the population always settle

31:36

near rivers. And I think Michael

31:38

Wan has talked about this as

31:40

well, where it's something about the

31:43

rivers now. You can interpret that.

31:45

Time rivers by Goro Adachi that

31:47

has some interesting ideas, right? And

31:50

Michael, you know, has spoken a

31:52

lot about sort of the

31:54

connection between rivers and sort

31:56

of time and the sort

31:59

of social engineer. culture with

32:01

technology or new

32:03

ideas or whatnot.

32:05

By whom you

32:07

said? Time Rivers

32:10

by Goro Adachi.

32:12

It's rivers, it's

32:14

multiple. A catchy?

32:17

A-D-A-C-H-I, that's it,

32:19

the Time Rivers,

32:21

yeah. Goro, okay, Goro

32:24

Adachi, ooh. I

32:26

have intelligently designed to function

32:28

as literal rivers of time.

32:30

Wow, this is though. I see this

32:33

is what I like. This is the type

32:35

of stuff. And I don't

32:37

think he got it necessarily

32:39

exactly right, but he's opening

32:41

up some interesting paths

32:44

for people to traverse with

32:46

trying to understand some of this

32:48

stuff. Something you said once,

32:50

can I screen share on here?

32:52

Yeah. I actually was out

32:55

exercising today and I took some

32:57

pictures and I want to show

32:59

you a few of them and

33:02

you can see how a portal

33:04

like so many places on

33:06

the water are. How do I

33:08

do it? Let's see. It's just

33:10

like Stream Yard. You just

33:12

click the little screen. Okay.

33:15

As I find Stream Yard

33:17

to be difficult. Let

33:19

me see if I can pull it

33:22

up. And then try it. There's

33:24

that. It closes it. Goreo Dachia.

33:26

Have you tried to get in

33:28

this guy on? Is he still around?

33:30

He's still around, but I don't

33:32

think he does. I know Michael

33:34

and Masaki have told me that

33:36

like he doesn't really. He doesn't

33:38

really do it anymore. I'm able

33:41

to share. Make sure the browser

33:43

has a permission to record

33:45

the screen. Of course. So this guy's

33:47

got an interesting website. Check

33:50

this out. Yeah, his website is

33:52

really interesting. The Super

33:54

Torch Ritual Underground. Yep.

34:00

He made most of his material

34:02

private a number of years ago

34:04

and he does very little public

34:06

publicly anymore at all. Of

34:08

course. Yeah. Seems like an interesting

34:10

kind of guy. He's super interesting, right?

34:13

I know Randy, my old podcast

34:15

partner, tried to reach out to

34:17

him for shows a couple times,

34:19

but yeah, I think that like he he

34:21

was doing it in the early 2000s, but

34:23

other than that, he's not

34:25

really interested. Let me, let me grab,

34:27

since I can't share the screen, let me

34:30

grab my phone, it's in the other room.

34:32

I'm just showing you a couple of

34:34

things. Is it not letting you show

34:36

the screen, really? It says that I,

34:38

yeah, it's like, this always happens on

34:40

everything that's in them, I can never

34:43

share anything on any other. Of

34:45

course, it's the lizard people. Select

34:47

a window or screen, I selected

34:49

messages, because that's where I have

34:51

my pictures, and I have my

34:53

phone, and I have. Okay, so

34:55

let me just grab my phone

34:57

and I'll just show you that

34:59

way. Of course, it's

35:01

the Illuminati trying to stop

35:04

us from sharing anything.

35:06

Right? You can also send, is

35:08

it a lot of them? Because

35:11

you can send them to me

35:13

and I can pull them up.

35:15

Let me just see. It's like,

35:17

it's so slow and like,

35:19

like laborious to do it

35:22

that way. Yeah, what's up? I don't

35:24

have telegram. Let me just use

35:26

them. You know what the times,

35:28

Emily? You got a... I just, at

35:31

a certain point, I decided I wasn't

35:33

signing up for things anymore. Okay,

35:35

here we go. It'll make you

35:37

bigger. Okay. Oh, yeah. See how it's a...

35:40

Okay, hold on. Look at the

35:42

seat. This is a bridge and

35:44

see how, when it reflects in

35:46

the water, it ends up looking

35:48

like eyes or a portal. Stargate

35:50

you can go through. But you can't

35:52

swim in there. Correct. Look

35:54

at the way the buildings are

35:56

in the water, look at the

35:58

way you can see. different sort

36:00

of, look at that. Yeah, it's pretty

36:03

wild. That first picture you

36:05

showed was pretty crazy looking.

36:07

The first one that you got there? I'll

36:09

go back. Everything is completely

36:11

still there. That one right

36:13

there. And what's that building?

36:15

Isn't that the Rockfin building

36:17

or something they told me about?

36:19

That's the Google building. Google.

36:22

Right, this building right here is called

36:24

the North Shore. It's one of the

36:26

buildings that's also in Chicago and the

36:28

owner, the guy from Rockfin, the French

36:30

guy or whatever, he lives there. Right,

36:32

like one of the addresses for Rockfin is

36:34

in that building and I watched him

36:36

on a podcast one time and I

36:38

could tell he was on the patio

36:40

of that building. Right, and then you

36:43

have the independent, which is like

36:45

a, actually can't see the independent. And

36:47

isn't it called the Finnin or something

36:49

like that the building? I don't know

36:52

exactly what the building is called.

36:54

It's owned by Google, right? But

36:56

there's a, let's see, there's

36:58

this interesting building right here

37:01

that's being built that has

37:03

this really interesting seam in the

37:05

middle that almost like it's trying

37:07

to show you where the direct

37:09

center of Austin is and it's

37:11

like split in half. And then

37:13

this building right here, this sort

37:15

of lower building right here, this

37:17

sort of lower building right here,

37:19

right here. Right? Michael and I, when

37:22

he was here a few weeks ago,

37:24

we were doing some research on it

37:26

and it's, the company is

37:28

called Silicon Labs. And let

37:30

me, we found something really

37:32

interesting, the description of what this

37:35

company is. Let me tell you

37:37

what it is. You're gonna be

37:39

like, wow, that's kind of crazy.

37:41

Sounds like some West World,

37:43

Silicon Labs here, I got them

37:46

pulled up. The IOT development

37:48

platform, those people? Yeah, right.

37:50

So Silicon Labs, commonly

37:52

referred, is a fabulous

37:55

global technology company that

37:57

designs and manufactures semiconductors.

37:59

other silicon devices, and

38:02

software, which it sells

38:04

to electronic design engineers

38:06

and manufacturers in Internet

38:09

of Things infrastructure worldwide.

38:11

Internet of things. We

38:13

found some really interesting description

38:16

of it that's not in

38:18

this one where it talks about

38:20

like the bridge between being a

38:23

bridge between analog and. And

38:25

sort of like digital or

38:27

internet of things type of,

38:30

where's that one description?

38:32

If I find it, I'll send it

38:34

to you later. But where's

38:36

that one that had the thing

38:39

about the analog stuff? Let me

38:41

see if we just search the

38:43

term analog. So are you ready

38:45

for another movie that... I

38:47

don't want to say it's not

38:49

as good as... As cattle

38:52

lake, but there's a there's a

38:54

movie right where of course

38:56

Nick Cage It's called pay the

38:58

ghost and in this movie spoiler

39:01

he literally walks On a

39:03

bridge that connects the living

39:05

world with the world of the

39:07

dead like a physical bridge that

39:10

he crosses over to go find

39:12

his missing son that was taken by

39:14

like a demon or something or other and

39:16

goes in there to rescue him and then

39:19

he ends up like rescuing all these missing

39:21

children That had been taken by the the

39:23

spirit in that area Because it was a

39:26

spirit that was angry at one point because

39:28

of something that happened and he literally crosses

39:30

the bridge To the other dimension

39:32

and pulls everybody back out and

39:34

then they're all reunited with their

39:36

parents Some days it feels like

39:39

that in Austin. Some days when

39:41

you cross, there's many bridges that

39:43

cross the lake all in downtown

39:45

Austin. There's the Pleasant Valley Bridge,

39:48

there's I-35 Bridge, Congress Bridge, First

39:50

Street Bridge, Lamar Bridge, Mopat Bridge,

39:52

and all these segments of the lake

39:55

have a uniquely different feel to

39:57

them. But sometimes when you walk

39:59

over, you... literally feel like

40:01

you're crossing over some

40:03

sort of domain into

40:05

a different domain, right?

40:07

I found that the

40:09

explanation that says Silicon

40:11

Laboratories is an industry

40:14

leader in the innovation

40:16

of high performance analog

40:18

intensive mixed signal

40:20

ICs, right? So that's right there

40:22

in that sort of dish, right?

40:24

Like I'm right there between those

40:27

buildings. It's very weird,

40:29

right? Like the way that the lake

40:32

feels, like when I'm on the trail,

40:34

it's kind of like a different flavor

40:36

every day. Like some days that,

40:39

you know, you see, some

40:41

days everybody's acting weird. Some

40:43

days everybody's walking with a

40:45

funny date. Some days everyone's

40:47

really attractive. Other days people

40:49

are all fucking ugly. Sometimes

40:51

like every child was crying,

40:53

right? Like it almost seems

40:55

like a slightly different place

40:57

every day. been living here again

41:00

in 2021, right? One of

41:02

the things that interested

41:04

me, and when was

41:06

that episode you sent me,

41:08

when did you record that?

41:10

The one that I sent you

41:12

the other day? Yeah. That

41:15

was probably recorded either

41:17

early in 2024 or late in

41:19

2023. Okay, now because you

41:22

mentioned me in that episode

41:24

and you talk about the

41:26

Pythagorean... Palace idea and

41:29

one of the interesting things

41:31

right because we mentioned Westworld

41:33

and this idea of When

41:36

the main character I forgot

41:38

his name when he doesn't

41:40

see the door and that

41:43

when when she said that that

41:45

really like clicked in me where

41:47

right that's a that shows you

41:49

how The system works is

41:51

only the initiated. So only

41:54

those that are able to

41:56

see The ones that are initiated in

41:58

the mysteries, yeah there you go. That's

42:00

the book that said all this, and he's

42:02

got other great books too by the way,

42:04

I have all of them, he's probably one

42:07

of my favorite authors, and he wrote

42:09

a lot about, even, he wrote about

42:11

the homunculus too, and some of the,

42:13

in his book, Falling in Love with

42:15

Statues, he writes about Pygmyne and the

42:18

concept of animating statues and

42:20

all this other stuff, Frankenstein.

42:22

And one of the interesting

42:24

things that she said that really clicked

42:26

for me was, he, he, the character in

42:29

that. in that show, right, where I

42:31

forgot at the end of what season,

42:33

when you start to realize that he's

42:35

actually one of them, one of the

42:37

robots, and they're like, hey, do you

42:40

see the door? He's like, what door?

42:42

So I think that a lot of

42:44

these places are like that. Like, what

42:46

if you're not tuned to whatever frequency

42:49

or whatever it is, or the lake

42:51

is not at the right level? And it's

42:53

like, hey, you can't see the doors.

42:55

Yeah. there yet or you're not

42:58

one of them whoever them are

43:00

or you don't have the correct

43:02

wiring in your brain right maybe

43:05

the people who have like today

43:07

I am working on a well

43:09

I have an idea for a

43:11

documentary and I pulled the

43:14

police reports of one of

43:16

the main stories that cited for

43:18

the thing that I want to talk

43:20

about and They

43:23

painted it as it was a DUI and

43:25

That the guy was screaming about right

43:27

that the boogie man made him crash

43:29

But he was arrested for being under

43:31

the influence and the police report

43:34

and everything This kind of says

43:36

like the police officer smelled like alcohol

43:38

in his breath, but they never did

43:40

a breathalyzer on him It's just going

43:43

strictly based off of what the police

43:45

report says and I mean, let's be

43:47

real you can make it Say whatever

43:49

you want like if you want to get

43:52

conspiratorial you can make anything say whatever you

43:54

want And let's let's call it the powers

43:56

that be are holding the truth back and

43:58

they're making this guy seem crazy and it

44:00

could have actually been the boogie man

44:02

that made him crash or he could

44:04

have just been drunk right and that could

44:06

have made him crash but it goes back

44:08

to this concept of these people in

44:11

society that we look down on who

44:13

maybe have a key to the answer

44:15

but they're disregarded because they're too

44:17

crazy or their their appearance puts

44:19

you off or their smell or

44:21

whatever it is right because they've

44:23

been put in that position because

44:25

I've always said that reality is

44:28

we're all hallucinating we're hallucinating Together

44:30

but we all agree on it and until one

44:32

person steps out of that disagree, you

44:34

know, disagrees with no No, no my

44:36

reality isn't that it's this this and

44:38

this or I can't remember the city.

44:40

Well, why is this city different

44:43

this time around? What if they're telling

44:45

the truth? Why? What if they're

44:47

saying something, right? I mean Or let's take

44:49

it a step above. What if? Any

44:52

three-letter agency could be hitting them

44:54

with a sort of technology voice to skull

44:56

or something or other to test it out

44:58

You don't think that they're every now and

45:01

again? Testing some sort of beam out. I

45:03

mean they've talked about having the tech to

45:05

make when they were at war You know

45:07

make them feel all warm and fuzzy or make

45:10

them feel like a law is talking to

45:12

them or whatever and tell them to do

45:14

something I mean, what a better way and

45:16

I think that religion itself I

45:18

was talking about hypnotism a little

45:20

bit ago with Longo and how I think

45:22

religion is a form of hypnotism

45:25

to put people it sedates people and

45:27

it makes them believe crazy it makes

45:29

them believe crazy you can talk

45:32

about the homunculus and all that

45:34

but then you'll believe but if

45:36

your religion says that dragons are

45:38

real you'll believe that one book

45:40

from that one religion because you're

45:42

part of that religion. What's the

45:44

difference? So a couple of things. When

45:47

we were talking about the doors and not

45:49

seeing the doors, there's a really, it's like,

45:51

sounds silly because it's like a kids movie,

45:53

but it's actually really good. It's called The

45:56

Portable Door. That is interesting. And then there's

45:58

a very famous book that I think. that

46:00

own, but I've never read called

46:02

The Doors of Perception, right? And

46:04

when you were talking, for some

46:07

reason, that was coming to my

46:09

mind. And then as far as

46:11

what you were just saying about

46:13

whether there really was some

46:15

kind of entity or whether

46:17

someone's fucked up or whether

46:19

the CIA is doing weapons,

46:21

one of the things that I am

46:23

very certain about that is

46:25

going on in downtown Austin. is

46:28

that it's become a like a

46:30

mixed reality area in downtown Austin

46:32

in a certain corridor in the

46:35

city like it's becoming gamified

46:37

really quickly Emily think about

46:39

what you just said right that

46:41

these large cities are becoming these

46:44

perhaps testing areas and is

46:46

this perhaps why all these

46:48

cities they've approved recreational

46:50

drugs such as Portland

46:53

Portland and they're testing

46:55

out yes yes So this is okay.

46:57

So there are certain areas of

46:59

downtown Austin where I

47:02

have completely different experiences

47:04

there when I am

47:06

on drugs like mushrooms or

47:08

something than I have in other

47:10

areas when I'm on them or

47:13

in a different city or whatever

47:15

it is. And it's like the

47:17

same every time in this area

47:19

of downtown Austin, right? Some of

47:21

the people don't look real to

47:24

me. Like they look like they're

47:26

like, okay, so imagine, remember like

47:28

when we were in COVID, people

47:30

were wearing masks and we were

47:32

talking about whether like facial recognition

47:34

software could still tell. I will

47:36

see people in a nightclub where

47:38

I can only see the top part

47:41

of their face and the lower part

47:43

of their face is like green screen

47:45

or black and it's not all the

47:47

people. It's just some of the people.

47:49

It's almost like some of the people

47:51

are really there and some are not,

47:53

and they're like not rendering completely. I've

47:55

talked about this several times on shows.

47:57

There's like one club in particular that

47:59

like... That's like the main theme of

48:02

every sort of experience that I've had

48:04

there is this sort of weird experience

48:06

with either missing features on people or

48:08

extra features. Like you could see someone's

48:11

like weird fucking troll ears or some

48:13

shit like that seems, and I don't

48:15

have that experience in Los Angeles or

48:17

if I go to a different area

48:20

of Austin and listen to the same

48:22

kind of music and do the same

48:24

kind of drugs or whatever it

48:26

is, right? Yes, microdosing is

48:28

being encouraged. Recreational drugs

48:31

are being legalized. And also in

48:33

some of these areas, downtowns, there's

48:35

some weird fucking towers that aren't

48:37

exactly 5G towers, like we don't

48:40

know what these things are broadcasting. Also,

48:42

some areas of Austin, and especially

48:44

in an area where a lot

48:46

of these people have gone missing,

48:48

there's those weird purple lights in

48:50

that corridor of downtown. There are

48:52

videos of some of the people

48:55

who eventually ended up going missing

48:57

and either not being found or

48:59

being found dead, where you see them

49:01

walking away from rainy street. One of

49:04

the names that they give the serial

49:06

killer is the rainy street ripper,

49:08

right? You see them leaving a

49:10

bar and walking and seeming like

49:12

they're talking to someone, but there's

49:14

no one there. Well, what if

49:17

they're seeing someone and that

49:19

someone is luring them. towards the

49:21

lake either with nefarious intent or

49:23

they're like just walking with that

49:26

person but that person is like

49:28

either literally not real or sort

49:31

of like there's a blending of

49:33

dimension or something like that

49:35

right and you know if

49:37

you go like looking into

49:39

some of the corporations and

49:41

you know Austin is a

49:43

place where technology and like

49:45

militarized operations come together pretty

49:47

efficiently right And you know, there's

49:49

theories out there that whoever's doing

49:51

these killings is like part of

49:53

some like weird, you know, military

49:55

cult or there's all these different

49:57

theories. But to me, it keeps.

50:00

coming back to the

50:02

fact that this area

50:04

of Austin has a

50:06

natural phenomenon being either

50:08

some sort of interdimensional

50:10

or temporal gate or

50:12

portal or something, right?

50:14

And that there is

50:16

technology at play in

50:18

downtown Austin that has

50:20

turned it into on

50:22

some level a

50:24

gamified environment. I

50:27

was driving on the turnpike the other

50:29

day with my wife and we have

50:31

a lot of those purple lights

50:33

here in Florida and the explanation

50:36

that they gave for it is that it

50:38

was a defect from the

50:40

supplier allegedly but it's interesting

50:42

because the color purple is

50:44

a non-spectral color and I've

50:46

done the alchemy of the color

50:49

purple. You have Hans Blue, Hans

50:51

Purple where I contemplated the concept

50:53

of perhaps some sort of... consciousness,

50:56

transference, technology and some sort of

50:58

way. And what you were saying

51:00

about the color purple real quick

51:02

about seeing things that aren't there,

51:04

right? We think about imaginary friends,

51:06

we think about kids who see

51:08

things that aren't there, because perhaps,

51:10

right, the concept of their, their

51:12

skull hasn't united together, you have

51:14

the trepination and the idea of

51:17

having more oxygen to your brain.

51:19

Well, this one we just recently came

51:21

out, and I've been meaning to see

51:23

because I believe it's on. Weird out by

51:25

it and she was like, oh, why are you

51:27

going to watch that with them? So I never

51:29

did but it's a Herald in the

51:32

purple crayon everything he draws is

51:34

about to get real and it's

51:36

literally about this guy who has a

51:38

Magic he a young boy named her

51:40

lives inside a book his magic Purple

51:42

crayon can make anything come to

51:44

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51:47

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51:49

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53:38

whom he refers to as

53:40

old man, right? Almost like

53:43

this sky daddy type of

53:45

thing mysteriously disappears determined to

53:47

find him. Harold draws a

53:49

door to the real world

53:51

followed by moose in the real world.

53:53

Harold and a now human moose look

53:56

for the old man whom Harold

53:58

believes is his father. So

54:00

what an interesting concept. Right. So

54:02

I think the things that we

54:04

think people are seeing that aren't really

54:06

there, I think they're really there, we

54:09

just can't see them. Right. And I

54:11

think that some, this is where we

54:13

search across paths with the way

54:16

that they've pathologized this skill

54:18

and called it schizophrenia or

54:20

a neurological disorder that I

54:22

see it now at this

54:24

point as like the entirety

54:26

of our environment. Whatever if

54:28

you think we live in. for

54:30

under affirmment if you think space

54:32

exists, if you think space is

54:35

fake and gay, whatever it is.

54:37

The whole area, everything is packed

54:39

with information and some of

54:41

us have. different ways of decoding

54:43

light, like sort of processing light

54:45

that allow us to see different

54:47

bands of it. Some of this

54:49

has to do with our eyes

54:51

and some of it has to

54:53

do with our metabolism and our

54:55

genetics, all different kinds of things,

54:57

but the environment is literally packed

54:59

with information and we are tuned

55:01

into very thin bands of it.

55:04

Some people have a more flexible

55:06

range. Some people can keep track

55:08

of all of that and others

55:11

don't or aren't able to and

55:13

the ones that don't seem to

55:15

be able to prioritize the sort

55:18

of things into the proper dimensional

55:20

order, get called schizophrenic or bipolar

55:22

or whatever it is, right? But

55:24

you said Hans Blue and

55:27

Hans Purple, right? So literally

55:29

these pigments, Tyrian Blue, right?

55:31

Amman Hillman calls the drug

55:33

that people were taking in

55:35

the Ellisonian mystery, the burning

55:37

purple, right? So this is

55:39

something that's like being applied

55:42

to their eyes so that

55:44

they can see and be

55:46

generated or whatever it is.

55:48

Some people have this inside

55:50

their eyes. It's part of

55:52

the pigmentation. They have something

55:54

that equals that band. So

55:56

they're able to see it

55:58

naturally and it's called. Cryptochromes,

56:01

it's in bird's eyes as well. Don't

56:03

look, just look up

56:05

cryptochromes in the eye. Like, Allison McDowell

56:08

sent me an article about

56:10

birds that use these cryptochromes

56:13

to locate things, right? Whoa.

56:15

A little by absorbing proteins

56:18

in the eye that play a

56:20

role in circadian rhythm and magnetic

56:22

field sensing. that have a correlation

56:25

with schizophrenia and they're unsure whether

56:27

schizophrenia causes the lipid deposits or

56:29

whether the lipid deposits quote cause

56:32

schizophrenia. I think it's probably neither.

56:34

I think they're just related in

56:37

that the people who have these

56:39

lipid deposits and these cryptochromes can

56:41

see the other shit and the

56:44

other people can't but it doesn't mean

56:46

it's not there. Right? And instead of,

56:48

you know, helping people to be able

56:50

to differentiate between what... everyone else can

56:52

see and not see versus what all

56:55

the things you see. They just give

56:57

them drugs and send them to a

56:59

mental institution and whatever it is. But

57:01

the things they're seeing are consistent and

57:03

they're talking about the same shit all

57:05

the time. They're talking about the same shit

57:08

all the time. They're not like telling

57:10

one story one day and a different

57:12

story another day. Like you have these

57:14

people that like, I mean, have you

57:16

ever listened to like some of the

57:19

people that we call crazy and what

57:21

they're talking about? top of their lungs

57:23

and we're doing it on fucking Patreon

57:25

for $5 a month. It's

57:28

true. We're the same. Yeah. So,

57:30

okay, but these, like, we process

57:32

light differently based on what

57:35

is inside of our eyes

57:37

or maybe this gets into

57:39

pineal gland and there being

57:41

like a crystal in there.

57:43

or some sort of optical

57:46

device type of thing in

57:48

there. This also gets into

57:50

like weirdly like metabolism and

57:52

the way your organs process

57:55

information and nutrients and minerals

57:57

and all kinds of weird

57:59

stuff. But what layers of

58:01

the code you're able to see

58:03

or to make sense of

58:05

seem to be correlated to

58:08

these ideas right here? There

58:10

is one place in Austin

58:12

that has those purple lights

58:14

and it's right in the

58:16

corridor where the most amount

58:19

of the people have gone

58:21

missing. So if we go back

58:24

and look at the

58:26

etymology of schizophrenia. It's

58:28

literally a splitting

58:30

of the mind

58:32

from German schizophrenia,

58:35

or coined by Swiss

58:37

psychiatrist Eugene Buehler,

58:40

Buehler, right Buehler,

58:42

yeah, from Latinized

58:44

form of Greek schicean

58:46

to split. So it's

58:48

literally heart in my

58:51

friend heart mind. So

58:53

literally schitzoid resembling schizophrenia

58:56

but less severe

58:58

from 1925 and And then it

59:00

comes here. So you're literally right.

59:02

So you're speaking about the eye

59:04

which I never heard about this

59:06

before So I mean use your

59:08

imagination when it comes to any of

59:10

this sometimes Seeing is not always

59:13

believing but sometimes it is right.

59:15

I mean that's that's the thing

59:17

because When you speak about any conspiracy

59:19

or anything, it's like, oh, what will

59:22

it take for you to believe? It's

59:24

like, I got to see it myself.

59:26

Well, but then when you get it

59:28

on video or something nowadays, they'll be

59:30

like, oh, that's a deep fake or

59:33

something or other. You can't, that can't

59:35

be trusted, right? So maybe this is

59:37

a good place to pivot into what

59:39

else we're going to talk about, which

59:41

is, you know, some of your idea

59:43

about the imaginal theater, and

59:45

what, brought up something

59:48

called a perspective glass,

59:50

right, that you had these

59:52

guys who were trying to

59:54

use this perspective glass or

59:56

a perspective lens, right, in

59:59

order. to more accurately

1:00:01

reconstruct or read

1:00:03

diagram the globe theater,

1:00:06

right? Yeah, the most famous

1:00:08

theater in, and right, and

1:00:10

speaking of William Shakespeare, because

1:00:13

this kind of ties into,

1:00:15

this phrase kind of takes

1:00:17

on a different meaning when

1:00:20

you're, when we're talking about

1:00:22

all this stuff, right, to be

1:00:24

or not to be. right Hamlet contemplates

1:00:26

death and suicide but think right how

1:00:28

that links into all the stuff that

1:00:31

we've been talking about yeah right where

1:00:33

and I'm not saying do any of

1:00:35

this stuff just for the sake of

1:00:37

conversation right some people feel out of

1:00:39

place blah blah I could you know I'm just

1:00:41

thinking outside the box when it comes to this

1:00:44

sort of thing but to be or not to

1:00:46

be takes on a whole different meaning for me

1:00:48

and it has to do with right William

1:00:50

Shakespeare and the globe theater one of

1:00:52

the most famous theaters but hey

1:00:54

There's one caveat. We

1:00:57

don't have any of

1:00:59

the drawings. We don't

1:01:01

have any of the

1:01:03

records and we've guessed

1:01:05

as to what it looked like

1:01:07

based on two drawings

1:01:09

of Skylines. Okay Based

1:01:12

on two different

1:01:14

drawings of Skylines

1:01:16

they have reconstructed

1:01:18

the Globe theater

1:01:20

which We don't know if

1:01:22

it ever existed and I did

1:01:24

contemplate. I said, hey, you know, I actually

1:01:27

got a comment about this recently.

1:01:29

I think it was today, I'm

1:01:31

gonna look at it now, where

1:01:33

I was like, you know, and

1:01:35

that's when I presented the aspect

1:01:37

of it being imaginable and not

1:01:39

ever really being real. And what

1:01:41

if it was, because it's just

1:01:43

so bizarre what they were doing,

1:01:45

they were having like these battles,

1:01:47

because they were doing private. plays

1:01:49

behind closed doors? Who are they

1:01:52

doing the plays for? Why were

1:01:54

they battling each other as to

1:01:56

who could build the biggest theater,

1:01:58

the badest theater? the x

1:02:00

y z and in Pythagorean

1:02:02

palaces right it's a war of

1:02:04

the homunculi because the the bad

1:02:07

of your building the more doors

1:02:09

or the more windows or the

1:02:11

more rooms or the more whatever

1:02:13

showed your power right that the buildings

1:02:15

were their homunculi I

1:02:18

mean that that's history they called

1:02:20

it their homunculi so they have

1:02:22

these in my opinion in these

1:02:25

supernatural and if you think of

1:02:27

The what are they calling thespians,

1:02:29

you know, and all the

1:02:31

this this community so let me

1:02:33

read that that I got because

1:02:35

it plays directly into this

1:02:37

here of what we're talking about.

1:02:39

Let me see if I can find

1:02:42

it anyways continue and

1:02:44

I'll find it here Okay, so

1:02:46

around the time you were talking

1:02:48

about that in your video, though,

1:02:50

you also brought up these prospective

1:02:53

glasses, right?

1:02:55

Like, what

1:02:58

if they

1:03:00

were using

1:03:02

these glasses

1:03:05

to sort

1:03:07

of either

1:03:10

peer into...

1:03:12

another version

1:03:14

of the

1:03:17

same wear

1:03:19

those red

1:03:22

goggles to look for

1:03:24

UFOs or whatever it is, right?

1:03:26

You can see things with certain

1:03:28

lenses that you can't see with

1:03:30

other lenses. It's true about

1:03:32

cameras, right? So when they

1:03:34

were talking about this device,

1:03:36

this perspective glass that they were

1:03:38

using to do this, like, you know,

1:03:41

A, it would be really interesting if

1:03:43

some people's eyes do that naturally, or

1:03:45

if you can train your eyes to

1:03:47

do that. Of course, there's always devices.

1:03:49

I'm going to offer you a little

1:03:52

tease here of where I'm going to

1:03:54

be going with the great work I

1:03:56

told you about, but I'm going to

1:03:58

be taking a look. at the sub

1:04:01

projects of MK Ultra, the 149

1:04:03

known ones with documents from a

1:04:05

completely different perspective, like just completely

1:04:08

back away from the all the

1:04:10

stories we already know about it

1:04:13

and go into it with like

1:04:15

what else could be true about

1:04:17

the same sets of information, right?

1:04:20

And one of the things that

1:04:22

I discovered one day, as I've

1:04:24

been prepping myself for this and

1:04:27

whatnot, and I was actually just

1:04:29

looking at it again yesterday, so

1:04:32

I remembered the exact same

1:04:34

term here. One project, one of

1:04:36

the projects, listen to this,

1:04:38

tell me what this sounds like.

1:04:40

By the way, the common

1:04:43

is gone, so. Okay, services

1:04:45

related to certain physical studies,

1:04:47

which are required to develop

1:04:50

effective materials. which will influence

1:04:52

the central nervous system. The

1:04:55

project also supported studies

1:04:57

on the optical rotary

1:04:59

power of solid and

1:05:01

liquid crystals. What? Sounds like

1:05:04

they were trying to build some

1:05:06

sort of perspective glass.

1:05:08

Like the dark crystal movie

1:05:11

ever seen that movie? But a

1:05:13

lot of people bring it up

1:05:15

all the time. I think it was

1:05:17

purple too, and when I'm

1:05:19

mistaken. Right. You know, I don't

1:05:22

know, like, I spent a lot

1:05:24

of time looking into Sonics and

1:05:26

optics and sound and light and

1:05:29

all this kind of stuff. And

1:05:31

there's all kinds of weird lenses

1:05:33

and crystals and optical devices and

1:05:36

things like that. There you go.

1:05:38

Because I think Netflix just did

1:05:40

revamp of this one recently.

1:05:42

Interesting. Yeah, interesting movie,

1:05:45

right? To, and it's got

1:05:47

that purple-ish glow. It's got

1:05:49

like the weird looking. Just

1:05:51

like the burning purple. Exactly.

1:05:53

So I think that the purple is a,

1:05:55

it's a key to, right, the purple

1:05:57

portal. So yeah, the dark crystal age

1:05:59

of. resistance. Look at

1:06:02

that. Like it's all purple

1:06:04

looking. Yep. Here. Yep. And

1:06:06

you got the architecture too,

1:06:08

which plays a role into

1:06:10

that. And I think right that

1:06:13

the so was by Netflix.

1:06:15

Yeah. The concept of

1:06:17

like whenever you'd hear

1:06:19

H.P. Lovecraft talk about

1:06:21

non Euclidean architecture.

1:06:24

Right. And whenever I think of

1:06:26

like non-ukiladian architecture, I think of

1:06:29

like these alien worlds of some

1:06:31

sort, right? Because he, you know,

1:06:33

he's speaking up like, oh, I

1:06:35

see this angle that's obtuse, but

1:06:37

not quite in an acute angle,

1:06:40

that's not quite there. And it

1:06:42

feels like it's like, like

1:06:44

inception, it's all moving together.

1:06:46

And I recently had a dream, had

1:06:49

a dream, where in the dream, I was

1:06:51

told that when you read something,

1:06:53

it changes. And in this dream I

1:06:55

read so I was on it was weird

1:06:58

I was on you know like fun

1:07:00

spot where you have like those The

1:07:02

kids go carts that are on

1:07:04

a track they can't get off

1:07:06

the track and they're just like

1:07:08

kind of slam so it was

1:07:10

like kind of like that but

1:07:12

we were on like these little

1:07:14

four wheelers and I was on

1:07:17

the four wheeler And on the

1:07:19

forward, like any ATV, there's

1:07:21

usually a sticker on there

1:07:23

that says like no off-road

1:07:26

or anything, like you can't

1:07:28

operate this on a public way.

1:07:30

And in this dream, I remember

1:07:33

looking up, looking down at the side

1:07:35

of it, and I saw the sticker

1:07:37

where it said limited to 15

1:07:40

miles per hour. One second. And then

1:07:42

when I read it again, because I'm, I

1:07:44

found myself like, oh, I'm reading in my

1:07:46

dream. Like I could, I was like, I

1:07:49

got to read it again. When I went

1:07:51

to go read it again, it looked

1:07:53

like mandolorian, like kind of anokian

1:07:55

type of way. Like it shifted in

1:07:58

front. It was like liquid. in

1:08:00

front of me and it changed and I

1:08:02

couldn't read it again and it reminds

1:08:04

me of like that one time that I

1:08:06

was on mushrooms and my keyboard

1:08:08

when I looked down on my keyboard my

1:08:11

keyboard number one I had I had six

1:08:13

fingers in each hand so every time I

1:08:15

would look at my hand I'd see a

1:08:17

six finger and I'd be like what you

1:08:19

know what's going I was freaking out and

1:08:21

I looked at I would look at my

1:08:23

keyboard and my keyboard was endless like my

1:08:26

keyboard every time I looked at it's like I

1:08:28

had it was like I was zooming in and I

1:08:30

can look all the way this way and it was

1:08:32

all keys and then I could I would freak out

1:08:34

go back and then as soon as I would look

1:08:36

at it again I'd kind of zoom in and look

1:08:39

all the way that way and my keyboard was endless

1:08:41

and all the keys. Were like

1:08:43

alien like they were like, you know,

1:08:45

promethian where you the Prometheus alien movie

1:08:47

where it's like all this weird Symbols

1:08:49

it was like that for me and

1:08:52

I was I was freaking. I was

1:08:54

like, what is all this? You know,

1:08:56

like I couldn't figure it out All

1:08:58

right, a couple of things that this

1:09:00

is making me think about so first

1:09:02

of all you said you saw like a sixth

1:09:04

finger this is when you were on

1:09:06

mushrooms, right? Yeah, okay. So I was

1:09:09

telling you about that club where I was

1:09:11

like Right? So that sounds kind

1:09:13

of like that. And then

1:09:15

your extra sort of keyboard

1:09:18

and the fact that it's

1:09:20

like endlessly long, I think is,

1:09:22

you know, sort of some kind

1:09:24

of idea that like that. And

1:09:26

you said that something about it being a

1:09:29

noke and well a noke in chess is

1:09:31

when you take the game off the board.

1:09:33

So when the music continues past the normal

1:09:35

keys or when the characters are past

1:09:37

the normal keys, right? It's like taking everything

1:09:40

out of the confined space you normally

1:09:42

do that in and move it over. The

1:09:44

other thing I'm thinking about is when you,

1:09:46

there's a book called The Keys of Enoch.

1:09:48

I don't know if you've ever read

1:09:51

it. Probably. It proposes some interesting

1:09:53

ideas. But my friend Danny Goller, who we

1:09:55

talked about when you were on my show

1:09:57

a few weeks ago, the guy with the

1:09:59

DMT and the... laser, right? He, the

1:10:01

way he describes the code is

1:10:03

not completely unlike that, right? And

1:10:06

I think that, you know, he's

1:10:08

basically saying, you put a small

1:10:10

dose of DMT and you shine

1:10:12

this red diffracted laser at a

1:10:14

surface and you will see this

1:10:17

code. Well, what would happen if

1:10:19

you did a different dose or

1:10:21

a different drug or you used

1:10:23

a different kind of light or

1:10:25

a different kind of optical device?

1:10:27

Would you see like another version,

1:10:30

like whatever that code says, whatever

1:10:32

those codes mean, would you see

1:10:34

the thing that it means? Like

1:10:36

if the code says the dog

1:10:38

is brown, would you see a

1:10:40

brown dog? there on a different

1:10:43

drug or with a different light

1:10:45

or whatever it is, right? You

1:10:47

know, and this, back to what

1:10:49

I was telling you about everything

1:10:51

being full of information and it's

1:10:54

just, are we able to see

1:10:56

it? And if we see it,

1:10:58

what are we perceiving it as?

1:11:00

Right? Did you watch that movie,

1:11:02

the chess movie, the Queen Scambit?

1:11:04

Yeah, where she could, the series,

1:11:07

where she could see on the

1:11:09

ceiling. She was taking, what was

1:11:11

it, Adderall or something, she was

1:11:13

taking something. She was taking her

1:11:15

game off of the board and

1:11:18

into her real life, which is

1:11:20

what Enochian chess actually is, right?

1:11:22

And she was using this ability

1:11:24

for her to externalize this sort

1:11:26

of mental game of chess to

1:11:28

help her figure out ways to

1:11:31

like. strategize with extra space and

1:11:33

room and then bring that back

1:11:35

into her game. That's the imaginary

1:11:37

theater. That's the that's the memory

1:11:39

theater where you use it to

1:11:41

train. You use it as a

1:11:44

form of mental. It's a mental

1:11:46

gym essentially is what it is.

1:11:48

And I think that that has

1:11:50

a lot to do with the

1:11:52

mysteries and that kind of sort

1:11:55

of hints at the mysteries, right?

1:11:57

Because chess is the black and

1:11:59

white. It's the, you know, the

1:12:01

game of Thrones, if you will,

1:12:03

where you're going back and forth.

1:12:05

and I think that right when

1:12:08

you when you enter a noke

1:12:10

and chess it's been described as

1:12:12

that when you play a noke

1:12:14

and chess if you stare at

1:12:16

the board for too long that

1:12:19

you will start to hallucinate you

1:12:21

will start to see things that

1:12:23

aren't there and I think it

1:12:25

was matters the ones that that

1:12:27

played it where he would play

1:12:29

with a specter or a ghost

1:12:32

that was his partner Have you

1:12:34

ever it works you can do

1:12:36

it not in the water, but

1:12:38

it works better like in the

1:12:40

hot bath or the hot shower

1:12:43

or the jacuzzi I don't I

1:12:45

don't believe rubbed your eyes hard

1:12:47

and then watch visuals on the

1:12:49

back of your eyes My wife

1:12:51

hates it because I always rub

1:12:53

my eyes really hard and it

1:12:56

makes like this squishing sound right

1:12:58

hates that I do that but

1:13:00

yeah you can rub your eyes

1:13:02

and and see another dimension right

1:13:04

okay so for me it always

1:13:06

is a checkerboard floor and then

1:13:09

it goes into the most saturated

1:13:11

psychedelic color visions of like other

1:13:13

stuff right there's actually a some

1:13:15

people I go here at parties

1:13:17

like a group they're called like

1:13:20

it's like a group of DJ's

1:13:22

they call themselves desert hearts but

1:13:24

all of their flyers look exactly

1:13:26

like the shit I see when

1:13:28

I rub the back of my

1:13:30

eyes if I'm in hot water

1:13:33

especially. Right, so they know about

1:13:35

it too, right? And they're just

1:13:37

good at creating the graphic designs

1:13:39

for that kind of thing. But

1:13:41

there's something about, you know, there's

1:13:44

the dark, like there's the color

1:13:46

spectrum from the like dark mode,

1:13:48

and there's the color spectrum from

1:13:50

the light mode, and it sort

1:13:52

of renders the colors slightly differently.

1:13:54

Right, sometimes when I eat mushrooms

1:13:57

and I close my eyes, I'm

1:13:59

getting like light mode, which is

1:14:01

like white with saturated colors on

1:14:03

it and other times I get

1:14:05

dark modes of black with saturated

1:14:08

colors on it. And the trips

1:14:10

have distinctly different sort of feelings

1:14:12

and vibes to them based upon.

1:14:14

whether it's in black mode or

1:14:16

light mode, right? So I have

1:14:18

something for you, and it's relevant

1:14:21

because you mentioned the matrix, and

1:14:23

the numbers never lie, Emily, and

1:14:25

the matrix equals 31 in Jamatria,

1:14:27

and listen, listen, listen, so the

1:14:29

matrix, the matrix equals 31, and

1:14:31

the numbers never lie, because you

1:14:34

know what also equals 31, Faking,

1:14:36

also equals 31, therefore, snap, The

1:14:38

Matrix is faking gay. So again,

1:14:40

that's just what the numbers say.

1:14:42

I'm not making this up. This

1:14:45

is, you gotta listen to the

1:14:47

numbers. The numbers never lie. But

1:14:49

yeah, I think that there is

1:14:51

something to even rubbing your own

1:14:53

eyes to see this other realm.

1:14:55

I mean, that could have been

1:14:58

a rich, and doctors always tell

1:15:00

you not to do that, right?

1:15:02

They tell you like, oh, that's

1:15:04

bad for your eyes. You know,

1:15:06

you could. permanently damage your eyes.

1:15:09

I'm maybe you can't like who

1:15:11

knows maybe you can damage the

1:15:13

ducks and all over but usually

1:15:15

the stuff they tell you not

1:15:17

to do it's for a reason

1:15:19

I'm not saying keep you know

1:15:22

rub your eyes violently to enter

1:15:24

another dimension I'm not saying that

1:15:26

but I'm just saying like similar

1:15:28

to how they're talking about Lady

1:15:30

Bird Lake hey you can go

1:15:33

swimming in there you know since

1:15:35

the 1960s because there's a daily

1:15:37

bacteria but you can go paddle

1:15:39

boarding on Lady Bird Lake. Right

1:15:41

What? What difference is it making?

1:15:43

Well, also, like, you fall in

1:15:46

and you get back up on

1:15:48

your padleboards and you don't go

1:15:50

home with the deadly bacteria, right?

1:15:52

So, the whole thing is crazy.

1:15:54

The, let's because I know you

1:15:56

have a tight timing, I want

1:15:59

to talk a little bit about

1:16:01

this imaginary theater and the memory

1:16:03

palace act of it and all

1:16:05

this kind of stuff. Okay, so,

1:16:07

first of all. My birth is

1:16:10

the same day that the original

1:16:12

Globe Theater burned, right? And it

1:16:14

was weird to... I was having

1:16:16

a Zoom chat with Allison McDowell.

1:16:18

I don't know if you know

1:16:20

who she is. I've heard that

1:16:23

before. Yeah, she is a researcher

1:16:25

and whatnot. We were just having

1:16:27

a friends chat. We weren't doing

1:16:29

a show. And I was telling

1:16:31

her about what you and I

1:16:34

were going to talk about a

1:16:36

little bit tonight. And within the

1:16:38

same conversation, she brings up someone

1:16:40

who is sort of tangentially related

1:16:42

to what... you and I are

1:16:44

talking about but from a completely

1:16:47

different perspective which is hers and

1:16:49

his birthday is also June 29th

1:16:51

right so I'm coming on here

1:16:53

with you I discover we discover

1:16:55

that the original Globe Theater burned

1:16:57

on June 29th someone she's bringing

1:17:00

up is central to the story

1:17:02

she was trying to tell me

1:17:04

their birthdays also June 29th and

1:17:06

it was a similar kind of

1:17:08

thing we she and I were

1:17:11

getting in but I don't think

1:17:13

let me add one more in

1:17:15

there because William Shakespeare died on

1:17:17

April 23rd which is also my

1:17:19

birthday and the cattle lake episode

1:17:21

one of the dates of the

1:17:24

that I pulled up on it

1:17:26

was one of the dates I

1:17:28

think was like my birthday and

1:17:30

then the other date I think

1:17:32

that the person died was the

1:17:35

birthday of my co-host on that

1:17:37

episode so it's like we had

1:17:39

like a double boom boom he's

1:17:41

like that's my birthday and I'm

1:17:43

like you know this is my

1:17:45

birthday so I thought this is

1:17:48

weird the other day is my

1:17:50

birthday so we had like a

1:17:52

weird like synchronacy there but yeah

1:17:54

Okay, so I don't think the

1:17:56

globe theater ever existed in the

1:17:59

way people think of theaters existing.

1:18:01

I think the globe theater is

1:18:03

a congregation that meets outside of

1:18:05

the normal rules of space and

1:18:07

time as the average person understands

1:18:09

them. And it is, has to

1:18:12

do... with geometry. It has to

1:18:14

do with sound. It has to

1:18:16

do with perspective. It has to

1:18:18

do with the elements. and it

1:18:20

has to do with the archetyical

1:18:22

nature of the characters of the

1:18:25

play. And this still happens, right?

1:18:27

And there's other ways to achieve

1:18:29

this. And I think some of

1:18:31

the experiences that I've been having

1:18:33

at parties since about the mid-2000s,

1:18:36

maybe before that, but I didn't

1:18:38

notice it before, I didn't have

1:18:40

the eyes to see, right? Is

1:18:42

something like this, like this doesn't

1:18:44

happen at every party. Right. But

1:18:46

it's happened enough times that like

1:18:49

I will be at the party.

1:18:51

It has to be a really

1:18:53

good sound system. Right. It has

1:18:55

to be a fairly specific kind

1:18:57

of music and environment. I have

1:19:00

to be in a specific sort

1:19:02

of state in mind and condition.

1:19:04

And something will happen where like

1:19:06

I end up in this same

1:19:08

place that I've been I've been

1:19:10

in this place. dating back to

1:19:13

2008 about where it seems like

1:19:15

I am kind of, it's not

1:19:17

like I travel, like I feel

1:19:19

like I go somewhere. It's like

1:19:21

suddenly the room becomes something else.

1:19:24

And you know, it's maybe like

1:19:26

either a different set of people

1:19:28

are kind of there or I

1:19:30

can see the people that are

1:19:32

there in a different light. Like

1:19:34

they look like someone else and

1:19:37

all the people they look like

1:19:39

are what we would consider archeotypes.

1:19:41

And I've been seeing some of

1:19:43

these same people in this place

1:19:45

for more than 10, 12, 14

1:19:47

years now when I go to

1:19:50

parties. But there's this feeling to

1:19:52

it that never changes, right? Like

1:19:54

it feels exactly the same, like

1:19:56

it happened to me at the

1:19:58

party where I saw the glowing

1:20:01

thing that I told you for

1:20:03

a little bit, and it hadn't

1:20:05

really happened to me in that

1:20:07

way in a long enough time

1:20:09

that I thought like whatever that

1:20:11

was was was over, but like...

1:20:14

the way that it happened, it

1:20:16

was like I was right back

1:20:18

to that thing that I thought

1:20:20

was never going to happen again.

1:20:22

And all the same things that

1:20:25

ever happened there were happening again,

1:20:27

right? And when I'm in that

1:20:29

space, I see people who are

1:20:31

like, I'm trying to make sure

1:20:33

I describe it in a way

1:20:35

that I actually mean, that are

1:20:38

like, they look like famous people.

1:20:40

And part of the reason we

1:20:42

have that famous people are famous

1:20:44

is because they're archetypical in their

1:20:46

nature. Like they bring up certain

1:20:49

like feelings and people, they look

1:20:51

like someone in people, they look

1:20:53

like whether it was a real

1:20:55

or fabled God or character from

1:20:57

sort of ancient history or antiquity

1:20:59

or whatever it is. And sometimes

1:21:02

I really think I'm looking at

1:21:04

the famous person or I'm recognizing

1:21:06

that somebody looks like a famous

1:21:08

person and I had never noticed

1:21:10

that about them before. But once

1:21:12

I see it in that space,

1:21:15

then when I see them in

1:21:17

the regular world, if I like,

1:21:19

oh yeah, I can see now,

1:21:21

there's something archeotypical in them that

1:21:23

I had not noticed. And when

1:21:26

I saw them sort of in

1:21:28

that space, that part of their

1:21:30

character sort of came out. I

1:21:32

think it has to do with

1:21:34

somatics, right? This never happens to

1:21:36

me at parties that have a

1:21:39

less than adequate sound system, right?

1:21:41

Obviously, most of the buildings that

1:21:43

I'm going to parties in really

1:21:45

interesting buildings. They're just like warehouses.

1:21:47

They're just plain boxes. But if

1:21:50

I look at the ceiling sometimes,

1:21:52

Or if I look at the

1:21:54

scaffolding that the rings for the

1:21:56

lighting and the lasers and the

1:21:58

optical shows and stuff, the scaffolding

1:22:00

is in the kind of geometric

1:22:03

design and proportions that would be

1:22:05

equal to some of the architecture.

1:22:07

And this is just about sort

1:22:09

of marking out proportion, right? Some

1:22:11

of these lighting shows. are pretty

1:22:14

interesting in the technology that's being

1:22:16

displayed and and the ways it

1:22:18

can make certain things look, right?

1:22:20

I'm sure that there are other,

1:22:22

I'm sure this happens. with music,

1:22:24

with acting, probably with comedy. I'm

1:22:27

sure there's technological ways of doing

1:22:29

it, but I feel like there

1:22:31

is this ability to create, just

1:22:33

like I was talking about, that

1:22:35

show that I sent you, right?

1:22:37

You can create a space to

1:22:40

meet up outside of time, opening

1:22:42

up space outside of linear time,

1:22:44

but you can go and go

1:22:46

and you can be there and

1:22:48

you can sort of. contribute to

1:22:51

that ongoing project, whatever that is,

1:22:53

whether it's a play, whether it's

1:22:55

an art gallery, whether it's a

1:22:57

symphony, whether it's a building, right?

1:22:59

And this is sort of the

1:23:01

nature of all of these complexities

1:23:04

or really interesting things that we

1:23:06

don't quite seem to understand how

1:23:08

it makes sense in the way

1:23:10

we perceive space and time now.

1:23:12

Right, and I think it has

1:23:15

to do with vibration and elements,

1:23:17

right? And like what you are,

1:23:19

what elements, what, like, and I'm

1:23:21

talking about elements from the periodic

1:23:23

table, I'm not really talking about

1:23:25

earth wind, fire, water, whatever it

1:23:28

is, right? And what shapes these

1:23:30

things make, what archetypes they're associated

1:23:32

with? how they adhere when they're

1:23:34

being vibrated into place and what

1:23:36

causes them to sort of then,

1:23:38

like what makes them materialize and

1:23:41

dematerialize. I think there are temporary

1:23:43

vibrational realities that materialize and dematerialize

1:23:45

and more people are figuring out

1:23:47

how to do this, right? Everyone,

1:23:49

people are using different techniques, some

1:23:52

of them spiritual, some of them

1:23:54

metaphysical, some of them technological, some

1:23:56

of them technological, some of them

1:23:58

scientifics, some of them scientifics. All

1:24:00

this kind of stuff. And this

1:24:02

is, you know, part of why

1:24:05

we're experiencing some of the chaos

1:24:07

we are, and also what really

1:24:09

what all of the secrecy is

1:24:11

about. The secrecy and the weird

1:24:13

stuff that... you know, the circus

1:24:16

show that they give us is

1:24:18

to keep us focused on the

1:24:20

sort of linear 3D reality and

1:24:22

not paying attention to the Swiss

1:24:24

cheese that's all around us. And

1:24:26

speaking of Atlas Shrugged, I guess

1:24:29

I haven't been able to confirm

1:24:31

this, but Elon Musk said very

1:24:33

appealing over your sophomore in college.

1:24:35

It's a counterpoint to communism and

1:24:37

useful as such, but should. be

1:24:40

tempered with kindness and 20 books

1:24:42

Tesla CEO almost wants you to

1:24:44

read and of course this was

1:24:46

November 19 2022 but yeah you're

1:24:48

absolutely right I think that there

1:24:50

is something to like the white

1:24:53

brotherhood type of thing yeah yeah

1:24:55

where it's like these people again

1:24:57

the initiated that know how to

1:24:59

get there will meet up and

1:25:01

it's almost like the the build

1:25:03

a bird or whatever they call

1:25:06

it where but but it's like

1:25:08

a more esoteric version of that

1:25:10

where they're not meeting on this

1:25:12

plane of existence multi-dimensional and omnidirectional

1:25:14

how you can access it I

1:25:17

also think that there's like a

1:25:19

secret society that's called something like

1:25:21

the secret spectral order or something

1:25:23

like that that I'm pretty sure

1:25:25

I've heard of something like that

1:25:27

Um, brothers, brotherhood of the spectral

1:25:30

order or something. I've heard of

1:25:32

it a couple of times in

1:25:34

the last year. I haven't had

1:25:36

a chance to dig into it.

1:25:38

I could be combining two separate

1:25:41

ideas if I'm doing that. I'm

1:25:43

not doing it intentionally. The spectral

1:25:45

order organization in Luxembourg, is that?

1:25:47

No, I think that's from a

1:25:49

book. Yeah, that's from a book.

1:25:51

Yeah, that's from a book. Yeah,

1:25:54

that's from a book. Yeah, that's

1:25:56

from a book. Special order is

1:25:58

the white X in the family

1:26:00

of deviated rays that emerge after

1:26:02

defraction at the grading exhibit pronounced

1:26:05

Maxima along well-defined and innumerable directions

1:26:07

on each side of an undebiated

1:26:09

beam. The integers that distinguish these

1:26:11

directions mark the so-called spectral order.

1:26:13

That sounds a lot like what

1:26:15

we've been talking about here tonight.

1:26:18

I'm about to say something crazy.

1:26:20

Say something crazy. So, because this

1:26:22

came up on my timeline today

1:26:24

and for a second, even though

1:26:26

atomic bomb equals 31 as well.

1:26:30

Check this out because this is

1:26:32

really interesting because you're talking about

1:26:34

stepping into other realms how how

1:26:36

to step into other realms technology

1:26:38

to step into other realms Three

1:26:40

letter agencies or governmental entities using

1:26:42

experimental technologies on unwilling participants to

1:26:44

achieve an end goal of some

1:26:47

sort right? What if for one

1:26:49

second? All right check this out

1:26:51

because I found this really interesting

1:26:53

It's gonna be crazy. I know

1:26:55

it's gonna it's gonna sound ridiculous

1:26:57

like it's it's I specialize in

1:26:59

ridiculous This is gonna be kind

1:27:01

of retarded. I'm just gonna say

1:27:03

this right now. Okay, but check

1:27:05

this out because one of the

1:27:07

interesting things that I saw Were

1:27:09

paintings that the atomic bombs? Survivors

1:27:11

had painted. Okay. Yeah, and some

1:27:13

of the drawings are otherworldly so

1:27:15

I speculated that what if okay

1:27:17

for one second right what if

1:27:19

the right the atomic bomb isn't

1:27:22

what they've told us we've gone

1:27:24

down that rabbit hole or the

1:27:26

nuclear bomb or whatever it is

1:27:28

but what if these people were

1:27:30

susceptible to some sort of interdimensional

1:27:32

technology that The right so flash

1:27:34

at the incident I saw a

1:27:36

light like a rainbow. This is

1:27:38

August 6th 1945 age 20 at

1:27:40

the time of bombing for not

1:27:42

the age of drawing. And again,

1:27:44

it's very dark. Some of these

1:27:46

drawings, right, they're talking about a

1:27:48

mother finding, as there are maggots

1:27:50

on her face, finding a place

1:27:52

to bury her. her dead baby

1:27:55

on her back, right? She had

1:27:57

to go somewhere, she was trying

1:27:59

to cremate it and she had

1:28:01

to go very far to find

1:28:03

wood, but I thought for myself

1:28:05

for one second, these people were

1:28:07

seeing things out of this world.

1:28:09

Yep. What if, again, this is

1:28:11

something that happened. Exactly right, one.

1:28:13

And if you think about it

1:28:15

really quickly, if you think about

1:28:17

it, how Japan is kind of...

1:28:19

you know, grown men liking hell

1:28:21

kitty, very, Merakami, yeah. And I'm

1:28:23

not saying this in a bad

1:28:25

way, but very feminine in some

1:28:28

sort of way, right? Like, you

1:28:30

don't really think, Japanese people, and

1:28:32

I know this because my wife

1:28:34

is half Japanese, you know, because

1:28:36

my wife is half Japanese, a

1:28:38

Japanese people are very people pleasers,

1:28:40

right? They kind of, and I

1:28:42

don't want to say this in

1:28:44

any sort of bad, they don't

1:28:46

stand up for themselves, right? They

1:28:48

don't stand up for themselves, they

1:28:50

don't stand up for themselves, they

1:28:52

don't stand up for themselves, they

1:28:54

don't stand up for themselves, they

1:28:56

don't, they don't, they don't, they

1:28:58

don't, they don't, they don't, they

1:29:00

don't, they don't, they don't, they

1:29:03

don't, they don't, they don't, they

1:29:05

don't, they don't, they don't, they

1:29:07

don't, they don't, they don't, they

1:29:09

don't, they don't, they My wife

1:29:11

is half Japanese and her family

1:29:13

is full-blown Japanese like her uncle's

1:29:15

like mr. Meaghi like full-blown You

1:29:17

know wax on wax off? Wax

1:29:19

on wax off, but I thought

1:29:21

for that for one second right

1:29:23

here the three days later the

1:29:25

burn bodies in the fire Sister

1:29:27

and had turned red like demons

1:29:29

I instantly turned away and I'm

1:29:31

like what if this is like

1:29:33

like doom right where they open

1:29:36

up a pored all the demons

1:29:38

come pouring in yeah I'm pouring

1:29:40

in. Yep. I mean I think

1:29:42

that is definitely to the Like

1:29:44

we're not making any claims about

1:29:46

the existence or danger or whatever

1:29:48

of any of these things, right?

1:29:50

But I think that everything around

1:29:52

the concept of sort of atomic

1:29:54

or nuclear power has a lot

1:29:56

to do with the different worlds,

1:29:58

the different realities and blending. them

1:30:00

or blowing them apart when I

1:30:02

say blowing them apart I don't

1:30:04

necessarily mean literally with the bomb

1:30:06

but like you have a world

1:30:09

and if you separate it into

1:30:11

like fractals right or if you

1:30:13

have many worlds and you join

1:30:15

them into one right I think

1:30:17

it's really about something you know

1:30:19

like that and this okay so

1:30:21

what you were talking in your

1:30:23

video about the battles between we're

1:30:25

going to build the biggest building,

1:30:27

the badest building, we're going to

1:30:29

do a better play, our place

1:30:31

is going to be better than

1:30:33

yours, our players, our actors, or

1:30:35

whatever it is, right? And they

1:30:37

each have, it's like the different

1:30:39

theater groups are kind of like

1:30:41

the different cults that existed in

1:30:44

antiquity or in my case, like

1:30:46

the different groups that throw parties.

1:30:48

There's all of these different collectives

1:30:50

that throw parties and each one

1:30:52

have their own sort of style,

1:30:54

their own sound, their own aesthetic,

1:30:56

right? They're all operating, mostly I

1:30:58

go to parties in Los Angeles

1:31:00

at this point, right? But sometimes

1:31:02

they come together and they do

1:31:04

like a project together and there's

1:31:06

like a blending of this, right?

1:31:08

And it's like a celebration and

1:31:10

one of these parties in Los

1:31:12

Angeles that brings a bunch of

1:31:14

groups together is literally called reform.

1:31:17

Like we are reforming the theater

1:31:19

or reforming the culture, we are

1:31:21

reforming the group or we are

1:31:23

reforming the religion or the right,

1:31:25

the ceremony, the ceremony, the ritual,

1:31:27

the ritual, the ritual, or whatever

1:31:29

it is. Let me see if

1:31:31

this works to show you a

1:31:33

regular screen on my computer, because

1:31:35

I want to show you the...

1:31:37

They don't want us to know

1:31:39

the truth, so it's probably not

1:31:41

going to work. I know, all

1:31:43

right, let's see. But yeah, I

1:31:45

mean, again, this is like way

1:31:47

out of the box, like, but

1:31:50

when I was looking at that

1:31:52

today and reading the descriptions, I'm

1:31:54

like, this is like Dante's Inferno,

1:31:56

the way that these people are

1:31:58

describing this, the rivers of, of,

1:32:00

and all this other stuff, and

1:32:02

it's like... I wasn't there to

1:32:04

experience that and a lot of

1:32:06

the people did perish from the

1:32:08

thing that happened so can you

1:32:10

know how would we really know

1:32:12

what happened truly right and it

1:32:14

could have been some sort of

1:32:16

they said it was one thing

1:32:18

and it could have been something

1:32:20

completely different so weird I'm able

1:32:22

to see that, see there's nothing

1:32:25

to, is showing it to me,

1:32:27

and then it's saying that, saying

1:32:29

something to me, try it one

1:32:31

more time, select the window or

1:32:33

screen, I'm selecting the one I

1:32:35

want, clicking on it, oh, mute

1:32:37

website, no, not, I want, I'm

1:32:39

hitting a wow, it's your fucking

1:32:41

dumb platform. Okay, the, the, the,

1:32:43

the symbol, the event, called reform,

1:32:45

which they have, which they have,

1:32:47

something that hangs from behind the

1:32:49

stage during the show that is

1:32:51

this, it's like a sculpture of

1:32:53

this shape, right? It's the idol

1:32:55

or the icon or the the

1:32:58

sigil or whatever. No type in

1:33:00

reform parties lost. Oh, there it

1:33:02

is, right? Hold on, drop down,

1:33:04

go to the one, right? It's

1:33:06

like red and black and there's

1:33:08

like a white circle. It's in

1:33:10

the left-hand side, right there. Okay,

1:33:12

see this weird red red thing

1:33:14

with the geometry in it. Yeah.

1:33:16

That's there and you can see

1:33:18

there's another one that's green and

1:33:20

white they do different parties They

1:33:22

have something hanging behind the stage

1:33:24

that is that right there you

1:33:26

go the reform you can just

1:33:28

see this not that one But

1:33:31

that looks like scaffolding in a

1:33:33

building go to just that black

1:33:35

and white one. It says reform.