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And today joining us once again

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for the at least six time

2:21

Emily more. Welcome back to

2:23

the show. Always a pleasure to be

2:25

here with you. My friend. Always

2:28

a pleasure. What did you do to

2:30

get demonitized? Was it the

2:32

show of Thomas? No, no,

2:34

no. I know the boundaries that

2:36

I can navigate upon. I

2:38

have mastered the art of what

2:41

they call YouTube and the

2:43

algorithmic AI overlords. It was...

2:46

It was a stupid sure.

2:48

They said I was... It wasn't

2:50

technically anything I

2:52

posted, by the way. But they said

2:54

I was praising. Terrorist

2:57

organizations, which I'm gonna go

2:59

ahead and bleep that out

3:01

of this because That's what I

3:03

got hit with so apparently

3:06

I was praising terrorist

3:08

organizations and What they say? Yeah,

3:10

terroristic Threats and some

3:13

stupid shit like that. I

3:15

don't know something dumb That I

3:17

obviously wasn't doing because I

3:19

love the government and I don't

3:22

even think ever heard

3:24

you talk about like

3:26

politics or geopolitics or any

3:28

of that shit. Again, I think

3:30

that politics and all of that,

3:33

I think it's part of this

3:35

mind control they have over

3:38

people. I don't lean, okay, I'm

3:40

lying. If I lean any

3:42

sort of way, it's probably

3:44

conservative based on

3:46

my ideas, but when I... Look at

3:48

a certain party or candidate, right?

3:50

Because everyone's like, oh, either Trump this

3:53

or Trump that I lean more

3:55

towards what makes sense to me. Right?

3:57

If I see something make sense to me and

3:59

my idea. I go with that I am

4:01

not like I'm the only time I

4:03

voted I voted for Brock Obama

4:05

I think the second time around

4:08

or the first time on

4:10

I'm actually I'm actually registered

4:12

as a Democrat me

4:14

technically okay so but again I

4:16

haven't voted since because you start

4:18

to once you wake up and

4:21

start realizing the faking

4:23

game matrix you start to

4:25

go I see what they're doing.

4:27

So they do this every four

4:29

years. Like this is the same thing

4:31

every four years. Right. And here

4:34

we are. Liberation, yes. So Emily,

4:36

before we get into it, where

4:39

can people find doing your

4:41

show and all your good stuff?

4:43

My YouTube channel is my name.

4:45

Emily Moyer. From there, you can

4:48

find your way to all the other

4:50

stuff. I have a bunch of different

4:52

offerings on Patreon. a few

4:54

different Lopez pages but the

4:56

main one is Emily Moyer

4:58

dot locals.com and I post

5:00

just a very small amount

5:03

of stuff on Rockman anymore

5:05

because I have no idea

5:07

what's going on over there

5:09

and that is Rockman.com/ Emily

5:11

Moyer. Yeah so I have lots of different

5:13

shows and concepts with different co-hosts

5:16

with guests and I was hoping

5:18

it would be ready by April,

5:20

but now it's probably not going

5:22

to be till June if I'm

5:25

honest with myself. I'm also going

5:27

to be putting out my first

5:29

solo project series this year that

5:31

I'm working hard on right now, and

5:33

it's going to have, it's like I've

5:35

never been one to do like the

5:37

sort of solo show where you talk

5:39

to yourself into Black Hole for

5:42

an hour and a half or

5:44

two hours, but I think I've

5:46

reached the point in my... career

5:48

here where the next project requires

5:50

that so I'm working on that

5:52

and that should be ready to

5:54

really kick off publicly I think

5:56

in June I might have some

5:58

some sort of early on sort

6:01

of like preemptive episodes

6:03

like sort of like a prologue type

6:05

of things that I just put

6:07

up for supporters until I kind

6:09

of get comfortable doing

6:11

it but then probably around

6:13

June or so they'll start to

6:15

see it pop up. Do you struggle

6:18

with the solo stuff? Well it's just

6:20

that I didn't do it right like

6:22

I didn't even mean to start

6:24

doing this right like I just

6:26

was a guest on Randy's podcast

6:28

And then we decided we'd do

6:30

like a show together once a

6:32

month and then all of a

6:34

sudden I was the producer and

6:36

the co-host and then I've been

6:38

doing this ever since. And so

6:41

it was always with either a co-host

6:43

or a guest or a co-host and

6:45

a guest. And I don't even

6:47

think I ever did my first

6:49

solo video for anything other than

6:52

an announcement until like in

6:54

January 2022 when they were

6:56

like... revoking Novakjokovich's travel visa

6:58

in Australia because he didn't

7:00

have the poke in the

7:02

poke, right? I made about

7:05

a 35 or 40 minute solo

7:07

video about Novakjokovich. And that was

7:09

the first time I ever even

7:11

did anything sort of publicly by

7:13

myself. I've done a couple of

7:16

solo live streams. which feels a

7:18

little more comfortable to me because

7:20

at least there's a chat room

7:22

going so you can see, you

7:24

can judge whether what you're saying

7:27

is landing. But I think I've

7:29

become completely like attuned to being able

7:31

to look at the face of the person

7:33

I'm talking to either the co-host or the

7:35

guest. and see if what I'm

7:37

saying registers, if what seems clear

7:39

to me actually is clear to

7:42

another person and using that sort

7:44

of as a cue for where

7:46

to go next or what I need

7:48

to slow down and explain or

7:50

whatnot. So just talking to

7:52

myself in the box, because

7:55

I already know what I think,

7:57

I already know if I understand

7:59

myself. for not, right? It's

8:01

like the different skill. And so

8:04

I'm having to learn that one.

8:06

Yeah, no, it is. It does

8:08

help having a co-host because

8:10

you can bounce ideas and

8:12

talk. That's how you go

8:14

down these rabbit holes and

8:17

tangent. I like tangents because

8:19

they, not because they fill

8:21

air, but sometimes they bring

8:23

up. Interesting concepts

8:26

right like interesting things to

8:28

talk about so it does

8:30

help and I admire people like

8:33

the dark journalists who can just

8:35

go on and on and on for

8:37

what feels like hours But also they

8:39

do that for a living so it

8:41

would make sense that they would have

8:43

time to research have notes 100%

8:45

they probably have notes because that's

8:47

what they do for a living

8:50

and if you could put the time

8:52

in then so be it right so Are

8:54

the files out yet? What's going

8:56

on? Have you, do you

8:58

have any thoughts on this

9:00

whole 80,000 pages of the

9:03

JFK assassination coming out? I

9:05

have no thoughts on that.

9:07

Right. Like, it is what

9:09

like, I am at this

9:11

point, I mean, we're in

9:13

this sort of conundrum here,

9:15

right, where it's like, we've,

9:17

somehow whether we were. programmed

9:20

to do this or whether

9:22

this was our rejection of

9:24

the program, we go searching

9:26

for evidence that we believe

9:29

is hidden. And somehow we've

9:31

been convinced that that means

9:33

documents, right, which there's nothing

9:35

easier in the world to

9:37

fucking fabricate than documents. Right.

9:40

And so as I'm preparing

9:42

my series, like it's based on. documents on

9:44

some level, right, which I'm also going to

9:46

bring into question. So there's going to be

9:49

sort of a portion of the series that

9:51

is going to be based on the information

9:53

in the documents, and then there's going to

9:55

be another portion of the series that it's

9:57

going to be, you know, the paywall portion.

10:00

where I say what I think is

10:02

really going on here, right? That

10:04

is, you know, maybe using the documents

10:06

as like a loose framework or

10:08

scaffolding, but I think at this

10:10

point, they want us to find the

10:13

documents. And they're not hiding the

10:15

documents. Right, the point is to

10:17

get people to find the documents, to

10:19

want the documents, to request the

10:21

documents, to waste time and money

10:23

and hours, making FOIA requests and all

10:25

of this kind of stuff, right?

10:27

And then when the documents come,

10:29

they're either redacted, they don't contain

10:31

what you think they're going to

10:33

contain or everything in them we

10:35

already know. And so, like, it's

10:37

been a lot of build up

10:40

to nothing with a lot of

10:42

these kinds of things. I personally

10:44

think that you know documents are

10:46

created intentionally to steer the

10:48

conversation rather than the

10:50

documents being kept from us

10:52

to control the conversation. 100%

10:55

but and that's the thing

10:57

right because I recently interviewed

10:59

a JFK S. So terrorist

11:01

I guess you could call him

11:03

he's been studying the JFK in

11:06

writing about. government and things of

11:08

this nature for over 35 years

11:10

Larry Hancock and that was one

11:12

of the things I asked him I go

11:15

how can you trust right source trust me

11:17

bro well how can you trust the source

11:19

which we know the source is the source

11:21

is the source that's been lying to

11:23

us this entire time but yet

11:26

we're gonna take those documents for

11:28

what they actually are how do you determine

11:30

and they even told me that

11:32

some of the documents in order to

11:34

keep them away and out of hands

11:37

of other foreign powers they're kind

11:39

of sort of written in code right

11:41

aliases and things of that nature so

11:43

there we go how can you even

11:45

trust the source now you can get

11:48

super crazy with that where I guess

11:50

that would be black-pilled where

11:52

nothing is real right is that

11:55

like black-pilled where everything's fake and

11:57

gay or is that a whole other pill

11:59

I mean Like, no, I mean, I think

12:01

you could consider that sort of Blackfield

12:03

where there's like Blackfield is more like

12:06

there's no hope. Right, like you're so

12:08

created that there's no, and I think

12:10

like on some level, like some people

12:12

think of that as being like negative.

12:14

And I'm just like, well, once we

12:17

have no hope for any answers from

12:19

these people, we can just move on

12:21

with our lives if it was very

12:23

helpful. Right. This is like my favorite

12:25

one is that you have all these

12:28

people who don't trust anything the government

12:30

says, but they're demanding disclosure from the

12:32

government. tells you that there's aliens and

12:34

they're you know shacking up at the

12:36

White House like are you going to

12:39

believe that just because like I don't

12:41

understand right you don't trust anything the

12:43

government says but you're demanding that they

12:45

disclose the answer that you want right

12:47

like wouldn't that invalidate the answer that

12:50

you say you're looking for based on

12:52

your previous philosophy I would I would

12:54

say so yeah but it gives it

12:56

some sort of legitimacy once you hear

12:58

from the government right because well they

13:01

kind of sort of run everything Right

13:03

so but but but it's legitimacy of

13:05

what not the truth? If everything the

13:07

government says is a lie then it's

13:09

just the validation of what I it's

13:12

weird like this is this is you

13:14

know this gets to the place of

13:16

like mommy daddy government like you and

13:18

I both have things we probably don't

13:20

care about don't like doing it for

13:23

some reason it's important to our parents

13:25

and so you do it. Okay, it's

13:27

nice to have a validation, but that

13:29

doesn't make you like the thing or

13:31

make the thing true or right or

13:33

good or whatever. It's like the same

13:36

thing. We're in that same stupid infantile

13:38

relationship, right? I mean, I hope I'm

13:40

not and I don't think you are,

13:42

but like some of these people with

13:44

this, you know, wanting disclosure and the

13:47

documents and, you know, like transparency and

13:49

all of this kind of stuff, like,

13:51

like, I think we are so far.

13:53

past any point where really any of

13:55

that would even be helpful. The biggest

13:58

thing is just to sort of... turn

14:00

around and walk away from

14:02

me. What I'm finding as I

14:05

dig into, because like the

14:07

idea for my series comes

14:09

from a supposed trove of

14:11

documents, right? Like here's the

14:13

thing that's really weird, right?

14:15

Okay, so the bulk of

14:18

my online media career has

14:20

been really dealing with topics

14:22

that emanated from my interest

14:24

and my research into MCALT,

14:26

right? And there's the story

14:29

that like, you know, once

14:31

they sort of got caught

14:33

and they understood that there

14:35

was going to be an

14:37

investigation and hearing, which became

14:39

like the church committee, that

14:42

they were in, you know, the

14:44

documents were destroyed. But so isn't

14:46

it weird that the only documents

14:49

that are left are ones

14:51

that indict them as having

14:53

done something evil? Yeah. or

14:55

having done something dark or bad

14:57

or wrong. There's no, like, you'd

15:00

think that those would be

15:02

the documents that you destroy.

15:04

And if you were just

15:06

gonna leave around some stuff,

15:08

it would either be all

15:10

redacted or it would be

15:12

something that made it seem

15:14

like it was something different

15:16

than what it was, or

15:18

that was at least a

15:20

balance, but like. There's a

15:22

lot of incriminating both financially

15:24

and incriminating in terms of

15:26

what the claimed point was

15:28

information in the documents left

15:31

behind. Okay, so it is in my

15:33

in my mind at this point. No,

15:35

if people have to know about

15:37

this at all, we want them

15:40

to think about it one way.

15:42

And that one way that we

15:44

want them to think about it

15:46

is as a some sort of

15:48

oppressive or oppressive weaponized program against

15:50

the population. And I'm not saying

15:53

that's not true. But what I

15:55

am saying is there is a likelihood

15:57

that that might be true, but not

15:59

the point. Right? And I know

16:01

based on what those documents claim

16:03

to have been studying, that it's

16:05

impossible that they only returned the

16:07

results that those documents say they

16:09

were looking for. Right? Like lots

16:12

of other things would have happened

16:14

too. And some of those other

16:16

things, I know for sure, are

16:18

definitely not. weaponized or negative. They

16:20

range from weaponized to negative to

16:22

neutral to positive and beneficial to

16:24

fucking mind-blowingly, what the fuck do

16:27

the humans have the potential to

16:29

do? Where are those documents? That's

16:31

what I'm more interested in. Now

16:33

I'm less interested in the ones

16:35

that indict evil fuck-tards as part

16:37

of our government or military and

16:39

rustival conflicts or corporation. We already

16:41

know about all that stuff. Like

16:44

those people are all dead. We

16:46

already know about all that stuff.

16:48

But like, where are we? Where's

16:50

the results of some of these

16:52

experiments? Both the things that they

16:54

were trying to have happened, hoped

16:56

would happen, and also the things

16:59

that went wrong. And in this

17:01

case, wrong could have been mean

17:03

they went well, or like they

17:05

turned up something positive instead of

17:07

something negative, or just something different

17:09

than what was expected. Where's all

17:11

that? Why is that gone? And

17:13

just the stuff that makes them

17:16

look like criminals left. Unless it's

17:18

more convenient for them to have

17:20

the population be scared of them

17:22

and think they're criminal, then understand

17:24

that the humans of the United

17:26

States are resources for their government

17:28

that are full of potential and

17:31

abilities and genetics and all this

17:33

kind of other stuff that allow

17:35

for certain things to happen, that

17:37

it's very important we keep sacred.

17:39

Not right? That's wild. That's a

17:41

different. So you take control of

17:43

the narrative, you manipulate the narrative,

17:45

you stick with one thing and

17:48

that's all you're known for. In

17:50

the meantime, you got the juice

17:52

behind the scenes of like, hey...

17:54

I think that there is mind

17:56

control, is part of the mind

17:58

control. Yeah, that's... Yeah. because it's

18:00

130 programs that took

18:02

place in prisons hospitals

18:05

and universities which is

18:07

interesting right universities because

18:09

you wouldn't think of some sort

18:12

of programming going on there well

18:14

right obviously not like that

18:16

not like how we're painted when I

18:18

think of MKO try to think of

18:21

how much of it was like stranger

18:23

things or Akira or you know how we

18:25

see it in what's the other one a

18:27

clockwork orange type of thing. How

18:29

much of it was like that

18:31

versus how much of it wasn't

18:34

like that? Let me just look,

18:36

I'm looking for one thing. I

18:38

want to read you like one

18:40

particular project it gets my attention over

18:42

and over if i can like i'm always

18:45

get confused when i want to stream yard

18:47

because it's it works different i can't show

18:49

i'm not gonna screen share but it always

18:51

makes my computer do funny things okay i

18:53

feel like the project might have been 144 so

18:56

let me go and also how much of it

18:58

was like a cult in nature did you did

19:00

you run into any of that okay

19:02

Well, this is, I'm not going to

19:04

give away the premise of the series

19:06

right now because I'm just not willing

19:08

to, I'm not ready to do that

19:11

yet, but I am willing to give

19:13

you a little bit that I

19:15

haven't discussed. With anybody yeah,

19:17

let me just see if I

19:20

can find this one that I

19:22

want to explain to you I

19:24

want to tell you that you

19:26

tell me if this sounds like

19:29

anything that Let's see where's the

19:31

one I'm thinking of I might

19:33

have able to find it this

19:36

quick because there there's actually a

19:38

hundred and forty nine that have

19:40

documentation a hundred and forty nine

19:42

i just want to see and that

19:44

whole story of like hey we stumbled

19:47

across this room that had all

19:49

these documents that were so weren't

19:51

they supposed to be destroyed is that what

19:53

the narrative is that they were going to

19:55

be destroyed and then they were like whistleblower

19:58

i guess they were they they were The

20:00

story that I understand, and

20:02

again, there's like little different versions

20:04

of each of these stories.

20:06

Hold on, I just wanna look

20:08

at that one. Here's one,

20:10

this isn't the one I was

20:12

looking for, but you tell

20:14

me if this sounds like what

20:16

you've heard M. Keltner is

20:18

about. Project 99, services related to

20:21

certain physical studies which are

20:23

required to develop effective materials which

20:25

will influence the central nervous

20:27

system and the project also supported

20:29

studies on the optical rotary

20:31

power of solid and liquid crystals.

20:36

The fuck? All right, but that

20:38

was the one that I'm really

20:40

looking for. This was the first,

20:42

like how I fell into doing

20:44

what I'm gonna do is just

20:46

by happenstance when like I got

20:48

stuck sitting around, dicking around my

20:50

computer for like 30 minutes when Michael

20:52

lost internet connection during a show

20:54

one day and I was waiting

20:56

for him to come back, right?

20:58

So I just had time to

21:00

like, all right, I can't find

21:02

the one that I'm looking for

21:04

and I'm not gonna waste the

21:06

whole time, but basically there's all

21:08

kinds of stuff here, right? And

21:10

only a few of the projects

21:12

really resemble the thing that we're

21:14

all kind of told in versions

21:16

one, two, and three of what

21:18

you're allowed to believe about what

21:20

M. Keltner is, you know, like

21:22

that it matches like that kind

21:24

of story, right? But here, I'll

21:26

give you this little bit now.

21:28

I'm not even convinced that M.

21:30

K. stands for mind control because

21:32

when I've gone digging, I can't

21:34

find any evidence that that's what

21:36

M. K. stands for. Now, the

21:38

official narrative is that it was just

21:41

a code, it has no meaning

21:43

and that it's like just a

21:45

code name for reference for indexing

21:47

purposes, right? But,

21:49

you know, that this

21:51

is something that everybody

21:53

who studies this, everybody

21:55

who researches it, everyone

21:57

who talks about, they're

21:59

like, oh yeah, it

22:01

stands for mind control.

22:03

and K because it's like after a German

22:05

word because this stuff really started in Nazi

22:07

Germany and that so it's like you know

22:09

mind control in like the German sense I

22:11

find no like now again I'm not

22:14

a big believer in the

22:16

legitimacy of documents so it's

22:18

entirely possible that it does

22:20

mean that but not because

22:22

any documents say that they were

22:24

doing mind control but they were

22:27

pursuing hundreds of other things as

22:29

well And just a little hint

22:31

to you as to where I'm

22:34

going with this. My overall assumption

22:36

is I've done like the basics

22:38

on the entire project and I'm

22:40

going to do the deep dives

22:43

as I go into each project

22:45

is I actually think they were

22:47

either trying to reassemble, reassemble. all

22:49

of the knowledge that of the

22:52

sort of rights that were practiced

22:54

back in the mystery cults in

22:57

ancient Greece and in all of

22:59

the Egypt or even in India

23:01

and the Orient and stuff like

23:04

that, right, that they're trying to

23:06

reassemble all of that knowledge or

23:09

they're trying to find a way

23:11

to sort of automate it and

23:13

mechanize it in modern society so

23:15

that it can happen outside of

23:17

the general awareness of the public.

23:20

Right like back in ancient Greece people

23:22

knew these cults existed and for a

23:24

while It was kind of open and

23:26

accepted and celebrated and then as things

23:28

started to trend in a certain direction

23:30

It became more secret and more hidden

23:32

and you got in more trouble if

23:34

you did it to the point where

23:36

it either went completely underground or seemed

23:38

to disappear for a period of time,

23:40

right like let's say that You know there's

23:43

people out there that recognize that no

23:45

this is actually how we gained knowledge

23:47

and wisdom and intelligence and whatnot So

23:50

we don't actually wants to get rid

23:52

of it But we don't necessarily want

23:54

everybody to have that. So how do

23:57

we avail ourselves of all the same

23:59

things necessary? to go out and maintain

24:01

these connections to the intelligent field all

24:03

around us, to practice these rights, to

24:06

practice these rituals, right? But kind of

24:08

do it in plain sight without anybody

24:10

sort of noticing, right? And a lot

24:12

of the things that they undertook seem

24:15

to be ways to sort of allow

24:17

that to happen on some level, right?

24:19

So. I'm proposing, I went through a

24:21

variety of other things that MK or

24:23

MC could stand for. I have a

24:26

whole list of them written my phone

24:28

and have my phone right here right

24:30

now, it's charging the other room. But

24:32

at the end of the day, the

24:35

most likely thing for me that MK

24:37

actually stood for is mystical. And each

24:39

project was being done with a different

24:41

group of people. at a different location.

24:44

And so you have mystery cult number

24:46

one engaging in these practices, mystery cult

24:48

number two engaging in these practices, number

24:50

three number four, number five, number six,

24:53

right? And you know, one of the

24:55

things we have is a supposed end

24:57

to the MK ultra experiments sometime in

24:59

the mid 70s, which I don't believe

25:02

that that ever necessarily ended. It just

25:04

went from being something under the control

25:06

of government through intelligence agencies or military

25:08

intelligence out into, you know, Raytheon, Boeing,

25:10

you know, Oracle Corporation, Sun Micro Systems,

25:13

like different sort of military or tech

25:15

industrial or biopharmaceutical industrial complex type of

25:17

corporations, right, or like Actual cults. Think

25:19

about how big cults were in the

25:22

late 60s, early 70s, right? That period

25:24

of summer. There was an explosion of

25:26

cults in the 70s. So if suddenly

25:28

you had something that was happening under

25:31

the umbrella of government, but for whatever

25:33

reason you're not doing that. anymore.

25:35

And the feigned

25:37

reason might be, oh,

25:40

we got caught,

25:42

we can't do it.

25:44

But the real

25:46

reason could even be

25:49

we've gone as

25:51

far as we can

25:53

with this in

25:55

a controlled setting. Let's

25:57

see what happens

26:00

if we let it

26:02

wander off the

26:04

plantation. Do we return

26:06

a different set

26:09

of information or results

26:11

or whatever it

26:13

is, right? And then

26:15

suddenly you have

26:18

all of these different

26:20

cults popping up, right? I

26:22

mean, I remember from my childhood, because

26:24

I'm a few weeks older than you,

26:26

that like every other week you were

26:28

hearing about this cult and that cult

26:30

and what was going on and these

26:32

crazy people who all used to be

26:34

geniuses and moved to this weird third

26:36

world country and did this weird thing

26:39

and whatever it is, right? A lot

26:41

of the shit sounds pretty close to

26:43

some of the rituals and ceremonies that

26:45

used to be practiced in some of

26:47

these indigenous cultures or India's or Dracula

26:49

or mystery cults of old. What do

26:51

you think? So

26:54

that kind of plays into what

26:56

I got an idea as you

26:58

were speaking where on

27:01

this whole topic of how much

27:03

can we trust the documents?

27:05

Are the documents accurate? Are the

27:07

documents double layered? Are they

27:10

encrypted? Etc. Etc. And

27:12

it kind of plays into the

27:14

idea that I had where maybe they

27:17

were running these programs

27:19

and on the outside they looked

27:21

like how you said like this mundane

27:23

sort of thing. But if it

27:25

is truly covert and it is truly

27:27

black budget, if you will, to use that

27:29

term, wouldn't it make sense

27:31

that they could run something in

27:33

parallel with that same exact program at the

27:35

same time? And the cover story was the

27:38

one at the top and the real

27:40

true meaning was the one at the bottom

27:42

now where you lose me is

27:44

when it comes to these ancient

27:46

rites and rituals. And for the reason

27:48

for that being is because

27:51

the more I do research into like

27:53

the occult, right? Because rites, rituals and

27:56

these secret mystery schools is occult. The

27:58

more I do research into that

28:00

the more information I dig

28:02

up on the fact that maybe that was

28:05

the way that they were

28:07

able to collect information this

28:09

reconnaissance or you know intelligence

28:11

collecting where for example maybe

28:13

the church when you would give

28:15

your Sunday confession you don't think

28:18

that they were using that against

28:20

people they were telling them

28:22

all the deepest darkest secrets

28:24

it was a controlled state

28:26

so you have to literally part

28:28

of your religion part of you

28:31

being able to get saved metaphorically

28:33

or literally who knows anymore right

28:35

was to confess your sins no matter

28:37

what that was in order for you

28:39

to be absolved your sins hey see

28:41

you next Sunday you don't think that

28:43

the guys behind the scenes were reporting

28:45

to somebody think about that the watchers

28:47

right we always hear about this the

28:50

watchers and all these things they're

28:52

watching you know they're observing

28:54

they're collecting information and when

28:56

it comes to a lot of these these

28:59

governmental entities i

29:01

don't think they care if you can

29:03

summon kathulu i think they care if

29:05

you have a certain list or video

29:07

of some one of their people you

29:10

know a person high up in in

29:12

authority doing something they weren't supposed to

29:14

be doing at a time you weren't

29:17

you know you're at the wrong

29:19

place wrong time and people turn up

29:21

dead because of that so black

29:23

males the true occult information Why

29:25

does it have to be one

29:27

or the other? I think this

29:29

is a both, I completely agree

29:31

with you, but I think this is

29:33

a both and situation. And that's

29:36

where I'm lost, Emily, because it's

29:38

like, okay, so where does the

29:40

supernatural come into play? Is that

29:43

an offshoot and a byproduct of

29:45

all this fake and gayness

29:47

that's pumped into it? For

29:49

example, the one that I've

29:51

been using lately, because I did

29:54

an episode on it. on the patron

29:56

was Johan Vayers, Pseudomonarch.

29:59

Di Monum where was this

30:01

grim war of 69 demons and

30:03

it was supposed to instruct

30:05

you how to summon these demons to

30:08

bend them to your will you know

30:10

using the name of God but it

30:12

was a work of satire and then

30:14

from that work is where the goaisha

30:16

came from so if the original

30:18

work is a fakery what does that

30:21

make any other work that stems

30:23

from that original work if it

30:25

if it truly was satire if

30:27

he wasn't like you know Okay, I

30:29

got I got for I got where I come

30:31

in from. Is it possible

30:33

that a lot of these recorded

30:35

rights and rituals are just

30:37

what you're talking about? Absolutely.

30:40

However, I have I can't

30:42

remember. Have you done drugs

30:44

or psychedelics or not? Yeah, I've

30:47

done mushrooms one time. One time.

30:49

All right, I've done thousands

30:51

of hours of drugs. All right.

30:53

So let's just go as I

30:55

have a little more experience. Okay.

30:57

there is an information field

30:59

there that is different like

31:01

what we're right so let's just

31:04

pretend so if you look into

31:06

the documents they claim to be

31:08

interested in using all of

31:11

these psychoactics so psychoactive substances

31:13

at least in some of

31:15

the projects to try to

31:18

gain control of people's minds

31:20

to influence them towards certain

31:22

behaviors okay That is certainly

31:24

something that can happen when

31:27

someone is on drugs. But

31:29

that is not something that

31:31

always happens when someone is

31:33

on drugs. What else happens

31:35

when someone's on drugs? So

31:37

if somebody doesn't do, let's

31:39

just say the idea, I'm

31:41

totally making this up, I'm

31:43

not saying this is a

31:45

project. The idea is to

31:47

get somebody fully loaded on

31:49

acid. right, on high potency

31:51

LSD, use psychic driving, which

31:53

is like repeating some message

31:55

over and over and over,

31:57

right, in their in their

31:59

mind. So that then like and

32:01

you pair it with some cue you're

32:03

giving them so that then two weeks

32:06

later when they're not acid you give

32:08

them the same cue and it causes

32:10

them to do an action that is

32:12

the same or similar to the one

32:15

that you were trying to program. Okay.

32:17

But while you were doing this stuff

32:19

while you were. filling them with

32:21

acid and trying to do

32:23

all this stuff. Let's say

32:25

the person is like not

32:27

really responding to what you're

32:29

doing and instead like they're

32:31

describing some other hallucination that

32:33

they're having or some other

32:35

thing that they're thinking about.

32:37

Okay. All right. You're going to record

32:40

that in your notes. Subject is

32:42

not, you know, taking the bait,

32:44

but subject keeps talking about blah

32:46

blah blah blah blah blah blah.

32:48

Okay. All right. That'll be

32:51

there. But we just got

32:53

the notes about trying to

32:55

get so-and-so to go like

32:57

Rob 7-11 on Tuesday when

32:59

someone says, well, I want

33:02

a ding-dong to that, or

33:04

whatever it is, right? Okay. So

33:06

let's just say that 10% of

33:09

the people that came into

33:11

the study didn't take any

33:13

of the things you asked them

33:16

to do, right? But, but described,

33:18

um, some... structure or

33:20

some character sitting in the corner

33:22

of the room. 10% of them

33:24

all describe the same thing that

33:26

the tester and the other subjects

33:29

did not notice or talk about,

33:31

right? But 10% of the people there

33:33

described the exact same thing

33:35

without having any interaction with

33:37

each other. 30% of the people

33:40

took the bait and did the

33:42

manipulated thing you wanted them to

33:44

do. And then the other 50

33:46

or 60% like did nothing. They

33:48

were confused for a couple of

33:50

hours or days, and then they

33:52

seemed to go back to normal.

33:54

So you have half the, like

33:56

half of the tests seemed ineffective,

33:58

right? 30 or 40. they're more than half,

34:01

30 % kind of got, did sort, either

34:03

exactly what you wanted them to do or

34:05

sort of what you wanted them to

34:07

do. And then there was this other random

34:09

10 % that were different than all of this,

34:11

but each of them described the same thing,

34:13

even though like you hadn't said anything about

34:15

that, like there was no connection between them.

34:18

Like, wouldn't you start to think, well,

34:20

like maybe there is something else here in

34:22

the room that for some reason people

34:24

can see when they're on acid, but they

34:26

can't see any other time. And for

34:28

some reason that's more interesting to those people

34:30

than all this stimuli we were doing

34:32

to them over here. What is that?

34:34

We're also gonna study that next project.

34:36

So this project, let's say

34:39

this project was number 32 and this

34:41

thing that they're trying to do. All

34:43

right, our next project is gonna be number

34:45

33. We're gonna find out what's sitting

34:47

over there on the corner of the room,

34:49

right? And so that's gonna be the

34:51

next thing that we study, right,

34:54

or maybe we're not even gonna

34:56

name that. We're gonna see, this

34:59

is project 32A and there's gonna be

35:01

that project 32B, but we're not gonna

35:03

talk about project 32B. What's the first

35:05

rule of fight club? What

35:08

fight club? Right, there

35:10

you go, okay. So the paperwork is

35:12

all gonna reflect this thing. There's a portion

35:14

of this that didn't work, a portion that

35:16

worked, that seems normal for an experiment. We're

35:18

not telling anybody about this for right now.

35:21

So the deviations in the patterns is

35:23

what they were looking for essentially. Whether

35:26

it was their intention when they started

35:28

out or whether that became something

35:30

that they noticed as they went along,

35:32

like there's no way that someone

35:34

wasn't like, well, we started out trying

35:36

to do this and that partially

35:38

worked, but we discovered this other thing

35:40

along the way that is actually

35:42

more interesting and what's weird about all

35:44

of that stuff, right, is

35:46

about all of that stuff

35:49

that is not really talked

35:51

about or not reported is

35:53

all of the stuff that

35:55

equals remote viewing, time

35:57

travel, intuition. divination,

36:00

all of this other stuff, which if

36:02

they had done any research on the

36:05

drugs they were trying, they were using,

36:07

they would have known that that's part

36:09

of the history of the drugs. So

36:11

then that also takes me to a

36:13

place where I can't possibly believe that

36:15

they didn't know that that wasn't not

36:17

only possible, but probable. So you want to

36:19

conduct experiments to see what

36:22

humans are capable of. Right,

36:24

but unfortunately funding usually comes

36:26

from places that have a

36:28

military or Financial or or

36:31

technological advantage position that they

36:33

can gain by funding it

36:35

So we're gonna offer up

36:37

part of the the test

36:39

the experiment here to be

36:41

geared that way so we

36:43

can get funding. Yeah, but

36:45

Secretly in the after hours,

36:47

what we're really curious about

36:49

is how far out does

36:51

the human mind and potential

36:53

go. Where's the information on that?

36:56

Like I have never, it is

36:58

impossible that they only

37:00

got information that either was

37:02

a nothing burger, with psycho schizophrenia stuff.

37:04

Or, well, I think schizophrenia is

37:06

actually intelligent, so I'm not going

37:08

to say like that, but sometimes

37:10

it's just babbling nonsense, and sometimes

37:12

there's a syntax to that nonsense

37:14

that informs you that there's something

37:16

really there. But it's impossible that

37:18

they only either got the information

37:20

they wanted or unuseful information.

37:23

There has to have been another group of

37:25

information that was interesting, but not the point

37:27

of what the paper said it was supposed

37:29

to be. Where's that information? Yeah,

37:32

I see where you're going with

37:34

it. And is there a

37:36

parallel, if not, if not, we're

37:38

already living in it,

37:40

but like a parallel or

37:43

a continuation of MK Ultra,

37:45

like a modern day MK Ultra,

37:47

or do you think we are

37:49

living in it? But we're living

37:52

in it to various degrees, like

37:54

at a certain point, I think

37:56

all of this knowledge got

37:58

separated out. into different

38:01

industries, different cultures and different

38:03

subcultures. And some of it

38:05

was just like, we all

38:07

understand the usefulness of propaganda

38:09

or the damage propaganda, depending

38:12

on your perspective. If you

38:14

had a new widget and you could

38:16

come up with some way to get

38:18

everybody to buy your widget, especially if

38:20

it wasn't. that harmful over all, you'd

38:23

probably deploy it. If it was harmful

38:25

to propagandize these people away, if you

38:27

were a sick buck, you might still

38:29

consider it. But if it was useless,

38:31

you wouldn't do it, right? So we

38:34

all understand the role that propaganda

38:36

plays, but I'm taking a look as

38:38

I've been working on this series and

38:41

I've been working with someone who has.

38:43

Like, that's not going to be on

38:45

the series with me, but it's helping

38:48

you with some of the aesthetics for

38:50

the series. That has really caused

38:52

me to explore what it is I'm

38:54

really doing here and why I'm

38:57

doing this. And I'm starting to

38:59

understand myself to an even higher

39:01

degree than I thought I already

39:03

did. And I recognize that the

39:05

two main driving influences of my

39:07

adult life has been my research

39:10

into M. Keltra and my understanding

39:12

of an attachment I had to

39:14

that phenomenon from my childhood, right?

39:16

And my time in the underground

39:18

dance music scene and that these

39:20

two things are very similar. And

39:23

so I'm going to say that

39:25

a lot of these projects

39:27

were exported from government

39:29

or corporate laboratories into

39:32

the subculture. of the

39:34

underground dance music scene

39:36

in Los Angeles and

39:38

Berlin and London at

39:40

varying levels. There's huge

39:42

massive festivals, that's Walmart,

39:44

right? There's sort of like

39:47

local chains, that's your fucking

39:49

grocery store, right? There are

39:51

like clubs, which are kind

39:53

of just like your, you

39:55

know, corner bar, and then

39:57

there's deep underground parties.

40:00

where you're having all sorts

40:02

of like weird counterculture stuff

40:04

that most people aren't even

40:06

aware of. But all of

40:08

this is centered around optical stimulation,

40:12

auditory stimulation, chemicals,

40:15

and then the physiology and genetics of

40:17

the people who are attending. And

40:19

what is the experience that they have

40:21

when they take this chemical and you expose

40:23

them to these stimuli? And if you look

40:25

at what they were doing in the projects,

40:28

they were exposing people

40:30

to neurological, auditory,

40:32

and optical stimuli

40:34

under certain conditions usually

40:37

involving some type

40:39

of drug or some way

40:41

of altering their central nervous

40:43

system and seeing what their

40:45

response was and whether the

40:47

response could be useful

40:50

in a weaponized fashion or whether

40:52

the response could be useful

40:54

in gaining intelligence that isn't available

40:56

in our 3D sort of

40:58

reality, but is there in hyperspace

41:00

sort of waiting to be

41:03

discovered? It's like that frequency band

41:05

not yet completely tuned into,

41:07

but is there, right?

41:09

It's always there. And so

41:11

to me, and I

41:13

don't, what I'm saying by

41:15

this is not like there's,

41:17

you have like, when

41:20

you get into these topics, you

41:22

usually have two different camps,

41:24

right? Is the rave scene totally

41:26

organic and just at

41:29

a certain point was

41:31

infiltrated or manipulated or

41:33

commercialized by people that

41:35

we would consider. Who started

41:37

that scene? Is there an origin as

41:39

to who started that scene? Because it seems

41:42

like everything is all

41:44

about collecting intelligence nowadays and trying

41:46

to Right, there's like a simultaneous

41:48

popping up of it at a

41:50

few different sort of locations, right?

41:53

And so the two camps

41:55

though are everything is like

41:57

planted, contrived, and controlled in the

41:59

very beginning. the other campus like no it's

42:01

organic and unfortunately bad seeds make their

42:04

way into it and steer it one

42:06

way or the other and for me

42:08

it's just kind of like everything is

42:11

everything. Like everything is just sort of

42:13

like a mixture and a hodgepodge and

42:15

within a totally controlled and contrived creation

42:18

you can also find these organic occurrences

42:20

that weren't expected and was something that

42:22

was completely and totally organic. You could

42:25

have something show up that distorts and

42:27

changes the whole trajectory of what was

42:29

going on, right? So on some levels

42:31

to me, it's like the wrong question.

42:34

It's understanding what is the environment, what

42:36

are the stimuli and what... are the

42:38

sort of insights, observations, and reactions of

42:41

the participants. And that goes for everything

42:43

we experience in reality on some level,

42:45

right? And so when you go and

42:48

you look at, like I remember going

42:50

on like the rave chat boards back

42:52

like in the late 90s, like when

42:55

the internet was kind of new, right?

42:57

And the rave scene was in full

42:59

kick, you know, now we have something

43:02

kind of different, we have like... a

43:04

club scene, a festival scene, an underground

43:06

scene, but we used to just have

43:09

like a rave scene. And you could

43:11

go to these chat boards and people

43:13

would talk about their experiences with this

43:16

pill or this acid or this academy

43:18

or whatever. Their trip reports and their

43:20

party reports and the party reports and

43:23

the party reports would be like, I

43:25

took this pill, I heard this DJ,

43:27

I had this experience. Think about this.

43:29

This would be not any different than

43:32

being in a laboratory. putting someone on

43:34

drugs, playing sounds for them, and then

43:36

asking them what it makes them see

43:39

or think about or whatever, but these

43:41

people are doing it voluntarily and out

43:43

there in the real world, not in

43:46

a controlled setting. So you're actually gaining

43:48

more intelligence from that. It's actually more

43:50

useful because how many times in your

43:53

life are you going to completely controlled

43:55

setting where there's no like unexpected variable

43:57

that can happen? Not very many. Like

44:01

a rock could come through the

44:03

window in your office right now.

44:05

Right? What year did the, uh,

44:08

so the internet as we know

44:10

it officially began 1983

44:12

and McClutra ended in

44:15

1973. Because it's making

44:17

me think of like, how you're

44:19

saying, it's the same thing

44:21

just package differently. And

44:24

that makes a lot of

44:26

sense. Like, why like, that's

44:28

crazy. Right now you're just it's

44:31

an oh there now they're free-range

44:33

chickens now that they're got it

44:35

that's exactly it yes right we

44:38

have the chickens in the pen

44:40

and then we realize people will

44:42

pay more for the eggs if

44:44

they're fucking that it grass and

44:46

ran around and we're happy which

44:48

kind of doesn't make sense because

44:50

like so for example I

44:52

use butcher box right and I get my

44:54

meat butcher box and I was sitting

44:56

down my wife more like Okay, we

44:59

spend this much on butcher box,

45:01

but if we go to Sam's

45:03

Club, right, the the big wig

45:05

store, the wholesale store, we get

45:08

a lot more for less. Okay. So

45:10

like our dilemma is do we

45:12

keep it this organic free

45:14

range grass fed like it's got

45:16

all the keywords to make you feel

45:18

some type of way. And I look

45:21

there and I go to so do

45:23

we keep it. Do we go with

45:25

this other brand? Maybe it's pumpful

45:27

of a whole bunch of stuff that

45:29

we don't know about that's what we've

45:31

been told right that it's it's modified

45:34

they put a whole bunch of hormones

45:36

and stuff into it makes the you

45:38

know the little girls get into puberty

45:41

quicker etc. So all this sort

45:43

of stuff or do we go with this

45:45

other stuff that allegedly is free range

45:47

is one of the ones grass fed

45:49

and all these other things and like

45:51

they make you peek between and so

45:53

we decided to keep the butcher box.

45:55

I'm like If it is

45:57

worth it in the long run, then...

45:59

So be it I'd rather pay a

46:01

little bit more for that versus this other

46:04

option over here. Because it's like they're

46:06

making you pick between the two

46:08

lesser evils. The other one might be

46:10

bullshit, but and we're willing to pay

46:12

more even though we understand it might

46:15

be bullshit, but you're still gambling the

46:17

chance that it's not bullshit. So you

46:19

stick with it and you pay more

46:21

for it and you eliminate the other

46:23

one. Right. That's fucked up.

46:25

Well, I mean, this is like well, think

46:28

about the scam of like the idea

46:30

of organic Like and they think people

46:32

who are weird who want to have all

46:34

organic No, it should be weird to

46:36

want to have vegetables with chemicals on

46:39

them in the 60s or the 50s

46:41

all vegetables in the market were organic

46:43

They were all organic and now

46:45

you're a fucking weirdo with a little

46:47

like area this small over here where

46:50

the organic vegetables are right. So it's

46:52

a lot of this sort of just

46:54

changing the jurisdiction of what people think

46:56

they're dealing with, but the same kind

46:59

of, but as far as butcher box

47:01

goes, I used to have butcher box,

47:03

right? I don't actually really like the

47:05

meat and butcher box that much. I've

47:08

experienced with a variety of local ranchers,

47:10

grass fed corn finished ranchers, this, that,

47:12

and the other thing. But we did

47:15

have butcher box during the pandemic because

47:17

we just wanted to make sure we

47:19

could like get our thing, right? I

47:22

don't think the beef in butcher box

47:24

tastes that amazing. You know what

47:26

is amazing at butcher box? They

47:28

have these pork butts that make

47:30

the best fucking carnitas ever. Laura

47:32

used to make carnitas all the

47:34

time. If you get the fucking

47:36

pork butt, I'll give you Laura's

47:38

carnitas recipe. They're fucking delicious. But

47:40

I could live without the rest

47:42

of the butcher box. grass fed

47:45

ranchers there's the next

47:47

option all that kind

47:49

of stuff right but this

47:51

is but here here's the

47:53

point is like we like

47:55

we have got to come

47:57

to the understanding that we are

48:00

source of everything that

48:02

they're interested in. We

48:04

are endlessly fascinating to

48:07

the day, okay? Like people who

48:09

are concerned that they want to

48:11

like wipe out half the human

48:14

population, no they

48:16

don't. We are the resources

48:18

for the technologies and the

48:21

achievements that they're hoping to

48:23

gain, right? Genetics are like...

48:26

All of the new tech

48:28

has to do with DNA,

48:30

RNA, MRNA, you know, different

48:33

kinds of, you know, like,

48:35

you know, different ways of

48:38

storing information on and in

48:40

people's bodies, right? They're literally

48:43

using custom DNA strands to

48:45

help construct, you know,

48:47

fusion reactors that won't get too

48:49

hot so you can actually have

48:51

the benefits of fusion which is

48:53

supposed to be an over unity

48:55

type of energy right but if

48:57

you have to spend all this

48:59

money cooling them down then it

49:01

makes it not profitable our DNA

49:03

is really good at coding for

49:06

certain kinds of carbon lattice types

49:08

of things that are superconductive so

49:10

things can get hot and stay

49:12

cold at the same time right

49:14

So wet wear, like this wet wear

49:16

technology that they're... So this is a

49:18

real thing. Right so like that also

49:20

people have been brainwashed into thinking

49:23

that our minds And our bodies

49:25

work like computers. We think we're

49:27

real smart when we get a

49:30

download But no all of the

49:32

technology is like mimics of the

49:34

human mind and body and things

49:36

that we do or things that

49:39

the larger Earth or planet

49:41

or universe or whatever do

49:43

like the the human mind

49:45

is one of the greatest

49:48

computers ever are just extensions

49:50

of that, right? I just

49:52

started reading. I've had this book

49:54

for like a number of years

49:56

and I started it once a

49:58

couple years ago but didn't, got

50:01

distracted, and now we're

50:03

in it. The programming

50:05

and metaprogramming and the

50:07

human supercomputer by

50:09

John C. Lily, right? And it's,

50:11

you know, it's really interesting to

50:13

sort of listen to him, you

50:15

know, break this down back in

50:17

the 60s and 70s before we

50:19

had the like modern lingo

50:21

about computer and programming

50:24

and tech and whatever, right? You

50:26

know, so I think like. were the

50:29

greatest resource on earth.

50:31

Right? People think that

50:33

it's maybe some rare mineral

50:35

in the ground, you know,

50:38

in like East Africa somewhere

50:40

or something like that. But

50:42

that mineral is only interested

50:44

when you see how the

50:46

humans interact with it. Right?

50:48

Like if it's just a

50:51

mineral, like those things were

50:53

there before we got here.

50:55

And nothing interesting was happening

50:57

with them until we came

50:59

and started interacting with it. Yeah

51:01

and they've always existed right so like they've always

51:04

been there it's just I think I think

51:06

the aspect of the human experience right this

51:08

idea because you hear this a lot in

51:10

the conspiracy where I'm like oh they want

51:12

to wipe us all out they want to

51:14

take everybody out like all that I'm like

51:16

why would they do that they still need

51:18

people let's say that there is a day

51:20

right that there is this cabal which I

51:22

believe there is of people in higher ups that

51:24

have more amounts of power than the

51:26

people below them 100% we know that there's

51:28

a hierarchy but I'm like the for the

51:31

people up top they're not going to be

51:33

mowing their lawns right they need the people

51:35

who are going to mow their lawn they

51:37

need the gophers I just did a

51:39

breakdown with narco long go on caddi

51:41

shack and kind of sort of what

51:44

that movie represented in a gopher is

51:46

a person who does like menial tasks

51:48

like mundane task like dumb work if

51:50

you will right. And so they're always

51:52

going to need the gopher, so why

51:54

would they kill off the gophers if they

51:56

need, right? That movie is about killing

51:58

off the gopher. they need them at

52:01

the end of the day so if everything

52:03

does go downhill why would they eliminate the

52:05

first people who are going to be in

52:07

the in the trenches doing the work that

52:09

never made any sense to me but people

52:12

are so convinced that that's what they're

52:14

after all right let's take this one step

52:16

further okay I think a lot of like

52:18

we have a hierarchy in a power structure

52:21

that like on some levels we understand but

52:23

like on other levels a lot of is

52:25

like we're blind to it because

52:27

the people that we see

52:29

your Elon Musk's your George

52:32

Soros your Peter Thiel or

52:34

whatever like there's people above

52:36

them that we're not aware of

52:38

that ever seen by anyone else

52:40

so we don't know what their capabilities

52:43

are. We don't know. Are they

52:45

interdimensional? We don't know if they're

52:48

interdimensional. We don't know if they're

52:50

hyper intelligent. We don't know if

52:52

they're just fucking big and burly

52:54

and so they're able to bully.

52:56

We don't know what that is, right?

52:58

But we know that we have this like, like

53:00

paranoid class that I would consider

53:03

all of these people, these Bill

53:05

Gates, George Soros, Peter's, like, uh.

53:07

really unimpressive lizard who's obsessed with

53:09

collecting everybody's data. That's like what

53:12

he's mostly concerned with. That's what

53:14

really all of you think about like

53:16

it's like this sort of middleman

53:18

syndrome like like if you look

53:20

into like people who are like

53:22

Hollywood agents and things like that

53:24

right they like they're they're good

53:27

at networking they're good at doing

53:29

deals but they don't have the

53:31

talent of the athlete or the

53:33

actor or anything like that so

53:35

they serve as this like middleman

53:37

between the public and this talented

53:39

person and they that they they sort

53:42

of expand that middleman

53:44

position into as much profit as

53:46

they can Right. And oftentimes you have

53:48

a middleman who makes a lot more

53:51

money than the person who's the talent.

53:53

And so, you know, all of these

53:55

middleman industries and in these data control

53:57

industries are all like largely based. my

54:00

opinion on a lot of

54:02

like control freakishness and a

54:04

lot of paranoia right so

54:06

now back to your your your point

54:08

about gophers you don't want

54:10

to get rid of the gophers because

54:12

you don't want to have to mow

54:15

your own lawn but you know what's

54:17

even better if the fucking person that

54:19

you hire to be your gopher and

54:21

mow your lawn has like a hormone

54:23

or a chemical that they secrete in

54:25

their sweat that is going to be

54:28

the gas for the fucking portal that

54:30

you want to, oh, the gas that

54:32

like permeates the membrane or whatever it

54:34

is, the thing that, that, or the

54:36

thing that makes the machine go. And

54:38

so he thinks he's coming over to

54:40

do your dirty work, but what he's

54:42

really coming, and you appreciate that he

54:44

does your law and that needs to

54:46

get done, do, but really anyone could

54:48

do it. But what he's really coming

54:50

over for is to like leave a

54:52

DNA sample on the handle of

54:54

your fucking lawnmower that you'll gladly

54:56

collect afterwards put into a centrifuge

54:59

Right and and accelerate into copies

55:01

and more and more and more

55:03

and more right and then you're

55:05

gonna do you ever see Jupiter

55:08

ascending? Remember that movie? I started

55:10

and never finished it. Okay, like

55:12

she's like the cleaning lady at

55:15

the office building or whatever, but

55:17

there's literally an entire universe that

55:19

is powered off of her genetics.

55:22

How much of that do you think

55:24

is real though? When you talk about

55:26

portals Emily, how much of it is

55:28

like an actual portal, how we see

55:31

in like Rickamorty that opens up a

55:33

roof and space and time, or what's

55:35

your definition of a portal? What

55:37

it would, because we always, we

55:40

throw this word around a lot.

55:42

places far away both in time

55:44

and in space. It's kind of

55:46

like everything everywhere all at once

55:49

everything's happening here now at different

55:51

frequency bands. So it's like you

55:53

have one radio but it tunes

55:55

into thousands of stations right and

55:57

the higher power your radio is the more

56:00

stations it can tune into

56:02

and the better located you

56:04

are the more stations you

56:06

can turn into and all that

56:09

kind of stuff right so what

56:11

I think we have here is

56:13

that like imagine if you

56:15

imagine each frequency band

56:17

as being a room in a

56:19

hotel and your genetics are the

56:21

key to the room that is assigned

56:24

to you okay and and there's

56:26

a manager of the hotel

56:28

and like the janitor might

56:30

have keys to all of

56:32

them. But there's some people

56:34

that have a more sort

56:36

of flexible genetic spread, let's

56:38

put it that way, that

56:40

they can, they can, like

56:42

a special, I don't know

56:44

if this comes from just

56:46

they have something in their

56:49

genetics that is good

56:51

at frequency matching. Right. Or

56:53

that they have so many things

56:55

in their genetics, which could possibly

56:57

be why they're all for all

56:59

of this like immigration and interracial

57:01

marriages and all this kind of

57:03

stuff because they're trying to create

57:06

new company lock combinations to different

57:08

frequency bans. Like they're trying to

57:10

access rooms that haven't found the

57:12

key yet for. Right. Okay. So

57:14

like I think that some people

57:16

might have. a more broad base

57:18

for that based on lots of

57:20

different genetics or you may just

57:23

have like that like miracle molecule

57:25

or that miracle atom or the

57:27

miracle gene whatever there might be

57:29

some some precious metal you know

57:31

trace metal in your in your

57:34

up maybe it's ruthenium because ruthenium

57:36

is superconductive right so superconductive it

57:38

can levitate it can move through

57:40

things it has low electrical resistance

57:42

which things means more things can

57:45

pass through it without causing it

57:47

to apart, right? It can maintain

57:49

its integrity. So this is what,

57:51

so if you look at what's

57:53

going on here with Oracle

57:55

Corporation, remember like day

57:57

two or day one

58:00

of Trump. administration, he

58:02

gets it there with

58:04

Sam Altman and Larry

58:06

Ellison and Larry Ellison

58:08

announces Project Stargate, which

58:10

is going to make

58:12

uniquely designed cancer vaccine,

58:15

MRNA, cancer vaccines in 24

58:17

hours for people, right? Using

58:19

AI, using Sam Altman's open AI.

58:22

Right? And at this, you know,

58:24

facility in Texas, which happens to

58:26

be in an area where there's,

58:29

you know, like a cyclotron or

58:31

a particle accelerator or, you know,

58:33

type of stuff. Okay. So Larry

58:35

Ellison owns Oracle Corporation, which

58:38

grew out of Oracle, a

58:40

project called Oracle that was

58:42

within the CIA. It was a project

58:44

in the CIA, and then it

58:46

moved out, became a corporation, right.

58:48

And one of the things that

58:50

they have. been really a huge

58:52

part of his A, trying to

58:55

get and store as many

58:57

medical records and things like

58:59

that as possible. He's obsessed

59:01

with data collection, particularly

59:03

when it comes to health

59:06

and genetics. Okay, now he is

59:08

saying that this new project to

59:10

create a database of people's, you

59:13

know, genetics is to help create

59:15

MRNA. vaccines to prevent cancer and

59:17

that, right, there'll be a unique

59:20

one made for each person. But

59:22

in order to do that, you'd

59:24

have to connect, collect everybody's genetics.

59:27

Okay. Have you heard of Project

59:29

Stargate, the other Project Stargate? It's

59:31

the same project, my friend. Do

59:34

you know what Stargate is? I've heard

59:36

of it. Is it the one remote viewing?

59:38

It has to do with

59:40

remote viewing and teleportation. Okay,

59:42

so to me, this is a

59:44

tacit admission out in the open

59:46

that the key to remote viewing

59:48

and teleportation is genetics. And so

59:51

we're gonna, right, we're gonna collect

59:53

all their genetics and we're gonna

59:55

use it to open all the

59:57

rooms in the hotel and for.

59:59

and we're gonna give them just the

1:00:02

key to their specific room, i.e. we're

1:00:04

gonna let them have the cancer vaccine

1:00:06

so that they don't, or whatever it

1:00:08

is, right? You see what I'm going

1:00:10

with this? Yeah, I see where you're

1:00:12

going with it, and it's just making

1:00:14

me think of like, this very, because

1:00:17

if you look up what an

1:00:19

Oracle is, which is interesting, right,

1:00:21

a priest, or priest, this acting as

1:00:23

a medium through whom advice or

1:00:25

prophecy was sought from the

1:00:27

gods in classical antiquity. And what

1:00:30

is another name for some of these

1:00:32

mystery cults? Oracular cults. There were cults

1:00:34

based around a member of the cult

1:00:36

that was the Oracle. Right? Go listen

1:00:39

to Amman Hillman talking about irregular

1:00:41

priestesses and oracular cults. Well, that

1:00:43

was my next thing I was

1:00:45

going to bring up because, right,

1:00:48

in a Palantir. In J.R.R.R. Tolkien's

1:00:50

The Seeing Stone is

1:00:52

a powerful indestructible crystal

1:00:54

ball used for communication

1:00:57

and seeing events in

1:00:59

distant places or the past.

1:01:01

So now we're rid of Bill Gates

1:01:03

and George Soros, but we have an

1:01:05

Oracle and a C and a Palantier.

1:01:07

Yeah. with the with the magga party

1:01:10

which is which is in Latin right

1:01:12

like that there you go there you

1:01:14

know so but here's the thing i

1:01:16

mean this is why i'm leading more

1:01:19

towards like is the occult like a

1:01:21

real phenomenon where in and by the

1:01:23

occult i'm talking about like you know

1:01:26

what even him and talks about where

1:01:28

it's like oh they're christing these certain

1:01:30

people and it's almost making me think

1:01:33

of like when you think of the of

1:01:35

the of the what's the da Vinci thing

1:01:37

the cup the chalice the chat yeah

1:01:39

the chalice but the other one what

1:01:41

do they call it on the damn it

1:01:43

man the holy grail when the

1:01:46

whole yeah yeah everyone

1:01:48

automatically thinks about like a

1:01:50

cup or a chalice right like that's

1:01:52

the first thing that comes to

1:01:54

what if it's a person like

1:01:56

what if how you're saying what if

1:01:58

this is all this whole wetware

1:02:01

thing what if it's

1:02:03

actual people what have there

1:02:05

the portals what does that

1:02:07

mean what else did on Hill

1:02:10

and say Jesus Christ used children

1:02:12

as drugs yeah right they would

1:02:14

use their body as a synthesizer

1:02:17

of particular chemicals right so

1:02:19

this is it think think

1:02:22

about that if it is

1:02:24

figured out that like okay

1:02:26

you get Emily all excited

1:02:28

You get her hyped

1:02:31

up on psychedelics and

1:02:33

methamphetamines and then you get

1:02:35

her like all excited and that

1:02:38

adrenaline that she gives off could

1:02:40

either a create a unique kind

1:02:42

of a specific unique to

1:02:44

Emily type of adrenochrome that's

1:02:47

active for a short period

1:02:49

of time or she can

1:02:51

just secrete a chemical or

1:02:53

a hormone or a pheromone

1:02:55

right that could be captured

1:02:57

or used. for whatever it is.

1:03:00

But then maybe they'll try and

1:03:02

get high off that if you've

1:03:04

watched the Congress, they take drugs

1:03:06

to turn into each other, right?

1:03:08

Like they want to see what

1:03:10

it feels like to be won.

1:03:12

So they take on drugs. Yeah,

1:03:15

it's great. I've brought it up

1:03:17

to you a number of times.

1:03:19

You should watch the movie to

1:03:21

Congress, because that's like

1:03:23

really kind of where we're

1:03:25

at in a lot of

1:03:28

ways, right? cults that were

1:03:30

based around priestesses or or

1:03:32

like oracles or whatever it

1:03:34

is, it's a different stimuli

1:03:36

for each person who possesses

1:03:38

those capabilities that is going

1:03:40

to get them to extend

1:03:42

whether that is separate from

1:03:45

their body and go out

1:03:47

into the, you know, the, the

1:03:49

ionic. Life which is outside of the

1:03:51

time stream or whatever it is or

1:03:53

to to penetrate the membrane into the

1:03:55

next dimensional however you're thinking about it

1:03:57

for some people they have to be

1:03:59

scared They're scared and then that

1:04:01

jacks them up and then they're sort

1:04:04

of outside of their body or outside

1:04:06

of their normal frame of mind and

1:04:08

connecting with another field of intelligence than

1:04:10

the one they're generally sort of sitting

1:04:12

in. For other people it's something else.

1:04:14

For other people like scaring them shuts

1:04:17

them down. For some people like you

1:04:19

have to stimulate them with something that

1:04:21

they really like for me like you

1:04:23

know put on the techno windy up

1:04:25

and watch me go and I'm gonna

1:04:27

come back with all kinds of kooky

1:04:30

ideas weird experiences stories things like that

1:04:32

for some people they get into

1:04:34

that when they're scared or when

1:04:36

they're turned on sexually or right

1:04:38

it's a different thing that acts

1:04:40

as the catalyst or the stimulus

1:04:42

for different people to reach out

1:04:44

beyond themselves and bring something back right

1:04:46

everyone is motivated by something

1:04:48

different so you have a

1:04:50

combination of hormones and genetics and

1:04:53

pheromones and stimulation and possibly

1:04:55

drugs and rituals that, like,

1:04:57

especially if you're practicing rituals

1:04:59

and rights that have gone

1:05:02

back generations in your family

1:05:04

that like holds this symbolic

1:05:06

significance in your group or

1:05:08

in your own mind or

1:05:10

whatever it is, right? So

1:05:12

that can be part of

1:05:15

the cocktail there as well.

1:05:17

So I think that there's

1:05:19

a truth to the occult.

1:05:21

But I also think that at a

1:05:23

certain point there's been lots of people

1:05:25

who have recognized that like you

1:05:28

can use this to control people,

1:05:30

to manipulate people, to scam people,

1:05:32

to make people think things are

1:05:34

going on that aren't really going

1:05:36

on. But the main message I

1:05:38

take is that there's really nothing

1:05:40

new in the world. People have

1:05:42

been engaging in dynamic experiences that

1:05:44

include drugs, sex, music, all of

1:05:47

that kind of stuff since the

1:05:49

beginning of time. That connects us

1:05:51

to other intelligence in

1:05:53

our environment that exists

1:05:55

at a different frequency

1:05:58

than we do. and

1:06:00

that there's information there. And the

1:06:02

idea that that's not true is

1:06:04

a lie, but the idea that

1:06:06

there has to be like some

1:06:09

weird crazy, you know, combination of

1:06:11

practices to attain it, and that's

1:06:13

the only way it can be

1:06:15

done is also not true. It

1:06:18

leaves this like huge vast area

1:06:20

for manipulation in between those two

1:06:22

truths. Right? So if you, if

1:06:24

I invited you over to my

1:06:26

house. And we just turned the

1:06:29

lights off and laid down on

1:06:31

the floor here and ate mushrooms

1:06:33

and just told each other what

1:06:35

we were thinking about the whole

1:06:37

time or didn't talk and then

1:06:40

told each other after what we

1:06:42

thought about. Or if I played

1:06:44

certain music and it made us

1:06:46

think about certain things and we

1:06:49

talked about that, like it's a

1:06:51

format of doing the same thing.

1:06:53

Maybe it's not as... You know,

1:06:55

the more people are involved, the

1:06:57

more grand the scenario, the more

1:07:00

sort of factors there are at

1:07:02

play. But, you know, all the

1:07:04

things that we call drugs come

1:07:06

from the earth, like whether it's

1:07:08

directly naturally from the ground or

1:07:11

whether it's taken into a lab

1:07:13

and done something to to synthesize

1:07:15

it or to accentuate certain properties

1:07:17

and nullify others or vice versa,

1:07:20

right? It's basically there's something that

1:07:22

the earth produced. That is the

1:07:24

key to a door that unlocks

1:07:26

certain information that is true about

1:07:28

being here in this world. What

1:07:31

interests me most, right? So they're

1:07:33

being inspired, which inspiration, right, from

1:07:35

a breathe into to infuse animation

1:07:37

or influence, especially by divine influence.

1:07:39

So how you're saying, maybe perhaps

1:07:42

there are techniques to achieve this

1:07:44

said thing, right? the extraction of

1:07:46

the magical essence or something or

1:07:48

other right there's a ritual for

1:07:50

that there's certain things for that

1:07:53

well interest me the most about

1:07:55

Hillman's work is not again I

1:07:57

know he's very polarized with everything

1:07:59

that he says. He says a

1:08:02

lot of crazy shit. But the

1:08:04

one thing that really interests me

1:08:06

about his work is that he's

1:08:08

kind of sort of proving

1:08:10

this long-running conspiracy of,

1:08:12

right, the whole frazzled drip,

1:08:15

adrenochrome, sort of thing, because

1:08:17

it falls along those lines.

1:08:20

And people automatically, as soon as

1:08:22

they hear the word, they go, you

1:08:24

know, Jesus wasn't doing all that. And

1:08:26

they go, wait. I go, step back

1:08:28

for one second. Listen to what he's

1:08:30

saying. I know what he's saying is

1:08:32

crazy, but look at it from a

1:08:35

different perspective. He's confirming all the shit, all

1:08:37

these conspiracies. Now again, you have to

1:08:39

take his word for it because he's

1:08:41

the quote unquote expert in said field.

1:08:43

So whatever he's translating, you got to

1:08:45

take his word for, I can't translate

1:08:48

it. But there's conspiracies and

1:08:50

things surrounding everything he's saying.

1:08:52

And he's confirming all the shit that

1:08:54

we've been talking about for a long

1:08:56

time. through that but people don't latch

1:08:58

on to that they latch onto the

1:09:00

oh this is blast from this like

1:09:02

he's there he's very dramatic and yes

1:09:05

and you know he has like certain

1:09:07

at this point you know he's he's

1:09:09

having fun with people right as part

1:09:11

of this but if you are able

1:09:13

to find if you're able to read

1:09:15

his books which I have or you're

1:09:17

able to find some older interviews

1:09:19

or some interviews that are more

1:09:22

scientific in nature that he's given

1:09:24

and you listen to what he

1:09:26

is actually saying, it makes

1:09:28

perfect sense. And you know, and

1:09:30

once people sort of back off

1:09:33

either being completely like obsessed with

1:09:35

what he's saying or completely like

1:09:37

repulsed by what he's saying and

1:09:39

just like look at the actual

1:09:42

data points that are being presented.

1:09:44

And basically what he's saying

1:09:46

is. every conspiracy that you

1:09:48

imagine to be true is

1:09:50

based on a practice that

1:09:52

goes so far back in

1:09:54

time, right? Like this has

1:09:56

always been part of being

1:09:58

here, here. the part that like

1:10:01

they call these rights and rituals that

1:10:03

are the techniques they call them the

1:10:05

mysteries because each group of people had

1:10:08

different ways of achieving these states and

1:10:10

gaining knowledge and they felt like just

1:10:12

like when you invent something in your

1:10:15

company it's proprietary information right like if

1:10:17

you own a restaurant and you have

1:10:19

the best pizza in town your recipe

1:10:21

is a secret. It's not that other

1:10:24

people don't make or eat pizza. They

1:10:26

have their own recipe. And you think

1:10:28

yours is good or better or best

1:10:31

or makes the most money. It is

1:10:33

sensible for you not to share other

1:10:35

than with your most trusted circle of

1:10:38

people what the recipe is because you

1:10:40

can gain advantages monetarily, you know, by

1:10:42

selling pizza. But in the case of

1:10:45

like, you know, if we're really in

1:10:47

the business of trying to advance our

1:10:49

knowledge. Right it dance our knowledge and

1:10:51

if you're going back in antiquity survival

1:10:54

was difficult So if you knew more

1:10:56

than the group of people next to

1:10:58

you and it came down to it

1:11:01

You were going to have a leg

1:11:03

up in combat or in saying there's

1:11:05

the espionage farming processes or whatever it

1:11:08

is right? Yeah, so everything is just

1:11:10

a question of does this and does

1:11:12

this? technique or this information give me

1:11:15

an advantage and for how long can

1:11:17

it give me an advantage? What do

1:11:19

I have to do to, you know,

1:11:22

prolong the amount of time that I

1:11:24

know something other people don't? Right and

1:11:26

even though it's their right as a

1:11:28

human being to have that knowledge also

1:11:31

if they can figure out how to

1:11:33

get it It's not my responsibility to

1:11:35

tell them Yeah, and we are in

1:11:38

a world where the people that we

1:11:40

call the elite both the ones we

1:11:42

can see and the ones that we

1:11:45

know are beyond them They're not necessary

1:11:47

like there no one is stopping us

1:11:49

from learning the things that they might

1:11:52

know Except for this anger that they're

1:11:54

not telling us, but as soon as

1:11:56

let me go. reasonably decent intelligence and

1:11:58

I can figure things out too so

1:12:01

I'm gonna start experimenting with myself and

1:12:03

my consciousness or try this or try

1:12:05

that or whatever and be honest with

1:12:08

myself about what the results are or

1:12:10

what I think or what happened or

1:12:12

whatever it is you can start to

1:12:15

know things too right there's never been

1:12:17

like every important thing I've ever learned

1:12:19

no one's ever tried to stop me

1:12:22

from knowing it's only like little puny

1:12:24

stupid little secrets that like don't really

1:12:26

matter at all but waste a lot

1:12:28

of time sometimes they get a lot

1:12:31

of clicks or whatever are the things

1:12:33

that like we're kind of like they

1:12:35

try to stop us from saying or

1:12:38

stop us from knowing but you know

1:12:40

you have to be willing to do

1:12:42

the work yourself You have to try

1:12:45

and fail and try again and succeed

1:12:47

and then get tempted because like now

1:12:49

I know something everyone else doesn't know.

1:12:52

Am I going to do the same

1:12:54

thing to other people that I don't

1:12:56

like other people having had done to

1:12:58

me or am I going to? behave

1:13:01

in the way that I would behave

1:13:03

to do something different, right? You'll probably

1:13:05

make a mistake and you might use

1:13:08

it to your advantage once or twice

1:13:10

and then you're like, yeah, I don't

1:13:12

like that, I can't live with myself.

1:13:15

I have to find a way to

1:13:17

be in this world and know these

1:13:19

things and, you know, allow other people

1:13:22

to know them in their own time.

1:13:24

It's not necessarily incumbent upon me to

1:13:26

go blabbing it out and telling everybody.

1:13:29

You can give them a few. You

1:13:31

can take them under your wig, but

1:13:33

you can't do it for them. When

1:13:35

somebody gets the answers too easily, they

1:13:38

just yield them willy-nilly and do dumb

1:13:40

shit with them. You're fighting a good

1:13:42

case for the Fed and the Secret

1:13:45

Society's, Emily. That's what it's always been

1:13:47

about, right? It's always been how I

1:13:49

said that the, I've said before that

1:13:52

it's, oh, because people ask me like,

1:13:54

oh, you know, how does this all

1:13:56

start? I'm like, it always has been

1:13:59

about information. Eden it was a war

1:14:01

about information don't eat from that tree

1:14:03

because you were going to acquire

1:14:05

information that you otherwise weren't

1:14:08

you weren't supposed to have

1:14:10

that information right and this is

1:14:12

the whole ideology behind secret societies

1:14:15

and a culting knowledge only a

1:14:17

select few and if you join us

1:14:19

will let you in on the secrets

1:14:21

otherwise you're going to be the outside

1:14:23

but how you're saying it's not stopping

1:14:25

you from acquiring that knowledge if

1:14:27

you're able to Alkamize yourself because

1:14:30

it's always been about like the

1:14:32

purification of yourself or looking within

1:14:34

in this sort of weird way now What

1:14:36

does that exactly mean? I don't know but

1:14:38

from what I've read it's about how

1:14:40

you're saying this realization that you're that

1:14:43

there's something more to you or facing

1:14:45

you know getting as close to the

1:14:47

godhead as possible to kind of sort

1:14:49

of acquire some of that essence so

1:14:51

it rubs off on you or transforms

1:14:54

you where you're then able to step

1:14:56

outside of space and time if you

1:14:58

look at the whole like story of

1:15:00

Enoch right and in the whole premise

1:15:02

of it he becomes metatron after all

1:15:04

the things that he's shown He becomes

1:15:07

this overseer of reality after

1:15:09

all the things that he

1:15:11

is shown by the watchers that

1:15:13

are watching the divine alchemists

1:15:15

at work, which is God

1:15:17

creating and uncreating reality. So once

1:15:20

he's exposed to all those secrets,

1:15:22

he transforms into this

1:15:24

angel, right, metatron. So... And

1:15:26

what does metatron have?

1:15:28

Metatron has his cube, right? That's

1:15:31

the famous sacred geometry shape

1:15:33

called the metatron. Is that

1:15:35

what's above you? That isn't a metatron's

1:15:37

cue, but that is like a

1:15:39

sacred geometry kind of Mandela, right?

1:15:41

There has some similarities to a metatron's

1:15:43

cue, though. What all of this is

1:15:46

about is about becoming a master of

1:15:48

the sacred geometry of space time and

1:15:50

sound. Yes. Right. And there's different

1:15:52

techniques for achieving that. And back to

1:15:54

what you said about me making a good

1:15:56

case for the feds. You know, I'd do

1:15:58

anything for you want. Yeah, no, that's what

1:16:01

I've been accused of. I've had,

1:16:03

yeah. But this is the whole

1:16:05

thing, right? Like, there's many ways

1:16:07

to go about acquiring knowledge and

1:16:09

you have to decide on one

1:16:11

that feels right and comfortable for

1:16:14

you. But there is a huge

1:16:16

difference between not being like told

1:16:18

something and being lied to, right?

1:16:20

Especially when it comes to like.

1:16:22

sensitive information and when by sensitive

1:16:24

information I don't mean secrets about

1:16:26

who fought to right I mean

1:16:28

like think about this if if

1:16:30

let's just say that everything that

1:16:33

I've ever everything that I've said

1:16:35

today about how portals worked is

1:16:37

true okay and then and then

1:16:39

somebody had some idea that you

1:16:41

or I maybe have because we

1:16:43

seem so insightful about portals or

1:16:45

whatever, like maybe we know they

1:16:47

exist because we opened one or

1:16:50

we've been to one. So maybe

1:16:52

our genetics are the key. So

1:16:54

then you're going to have people

1:16:56

like, well, how am I going

1:16:58

to go collect some of Juan

1:17:00

and Emily's genetics? I'll give it

1:17:02

to you. And so if I

1:17:04

get some of it once and

1:17:06

it works, how do I get

1:17:09

more? Right. No, having this. this

1:17:11

awareness, like requires a rising level

1:17:13

of discernment and responsibility for every

1:17:15

new thing you know, otherwise you

1:17:17

end up with the kind of

1:17:19

fucktards that we all complain about

1:17:21

who have access to vast resources

1:17:23

and lots of knowledge and use

1:17:26

them to do things that, you

1:17:28

know, are like, you know, isn't

1:17:30

something that I would necessarily want

1:17:32

to do with that knowledge, right?

1:17:34

But my feeling has always been

1:17:36

that like people are only interested

1:17:38

in controlling what other people do

1:17:40

when they're not confident in their

1:17:42

own abilities or when they really

1:17:45

like they want to be doing

1:17:47

the same thing that person is

1:17:49

doing or they need that person

1:17:51

in order to be able to

1:17:53

do what they want to do.

1:17:55

When I'm like in my element

1:17:57

like when I'm at a party

1:17:59

dancing exploring hyperspace dimensions whether they

1:18:02

really exist or they're just in

1:18:04

my mind like my eyes are

1:18:06

closed I don't pay attention what's

1:18:08

going around me I give no

1:18:10

shits about what this person over

1:18:12

here is doing what this person

1:18:14

over there is doing and eventually

1:18:16

I might open my eyes and

1:18:18

move positions or switch over and

1:18:21

go listen to what the speaker

1:18:23

sounds like over here And along

1:18:25

the way, someone might catch my

1:18:27

eye because they're a good dancer.

1:18:29

And I recognize that they're mastering

1:18:31

the art of the sacred

1:18:34

geometry of space time and

1:18:36

sound, and I want to see how

1:18:38

they do it. Right? And so they

1:18:40

have my attention. But like, other

1:18:42

than that, like, I don't care

1:18:44

what they're doing. Right? And so

1:18:46

they have my attention. But like,

1:18:48

other than that, like, I don't

1:18:50

care what they're doing. It's all

1:18:52

kind of in how you approach

1:18:55

it, right? But it's like, you

1:18:57

know, this obsession with knowing what

1:18:59

everybody is doing all the

1:19:01

time does not speak highly,

1:19:03

does not convince me that

1:19:05

they're very intelligent. It convinces

1:19:07

me that they have attained

1:19:09

a level of knowledge that

1:19:11

lets them know that there

1:19:13

are powerful creators and magicians

1:19:15

and travelers out there and

1:19:17

that they're not one of

1:19:19

them. And so they're going

1:19:21

to go, they want, they

1:19:24

want access to all that juice.

1:19:26

But we know that the, right, so the

1:19:28

act of voyeurism or

1:19:30

observing or right the watchers,

1:19:33

this whole concept, quantum, I

1:19:35

don't know where the double slit

1:19:37

experiment, right, if it's

1:19:39

quantum physics or whatever

1:19:41

it is, shows and illustrates that

1:19:44

observing has some effect on

1:19:46

reality. Is it maybe that?

1:19:49

That inspires like sure the

1:19:51

guest part of it, especially if you

1:19:53

have something that you want people to

1:19:55

do like if you have figured out

1:19:58

the equation for if I observe someone

1:20:00

in a certain circumstance, it then affects

1:20:02

the outcome and causes them to do

1:20:04

that next. So I'm sure there's people

1:20:07

who've been able to manipulate some of

1:20:09

that. But I wouldn't even go far

1:20:11

out on a limb and say, like,

1:20:13

all of this surveillance is really based

1:20:16

on our observations of ourselves, which doesn't

1:20:18

make it okay. I am not pro

1:20:20

surveillance or anything like that. But all

1:20:22

of these systems that have been built,

1:20:24

they mimic. something in nature and I

1:20:27

think our reality was set up so

1:20:29

that we could observe ourselves over time

1:20:31

and make changes to ourselves to become

1:20:33

better to become more to be to

1:20:36

become more in line to make the

1:20:38

person we we see ourselves as matched

1:20:40

person we actually are or whatever it

1:20:42

is right and you know so think

1:20:45

about we're in some system that works

1:20:47

a certain way and if Some people

1:20:49

get hit to the fact of how

1:20:51

that work and everyone doesn't. You can

1:20:54

build a smaller system within that that

1:20:56

does all of the same things, but

1:20:58

that you're in charge of. And let's

1:21:00

say the nature is an open system

1:21:03

that there's really no one in charge.

1:21:05

We're all just observing ourselves and my

1:21:07

experience of observing myself is interacting with

1:21:09

your experience of observing yourself and whatever

1:21:12

it is, and it's an open system.

1:21:14

And then somebody comes along and it's

1:21:16

like, I'm going to create a walled

1:21:18

off garden within that system within that

1:21:21

system. That I've watched how this happens

1:21:23

how all the observation affects behavior But

1:21:25

I'm going to create a closed system

1:21:27

that I'm in charge of Right and

1:21:30

so like so I'm the person observing

1:21:32

I've cut them off from the people

1:21:34

who are inside this construct I've cut

1:21:36

them off for the hire of self

1:21:38

that is this out in the open

1:21:41

system Right, but they will still feel

1:21:43

like they are being watched and being

1:21:45

observed, but they will be being being

1:21:47

observed by me. And so they will

1:21:50

become what I want them to be

1:21:52

instead of what they want to be,

1:21:54

right? I do think that we are

1:21:56

living with some of that, right? Like

1:21:59

I don't think I don't think we're

1:22:01

all the way in Pan Opticon completely

1:22:03

surveilled and controlled kind of scenarios, but

1:22:05

like you've walked into some place where

1:22:08

you're like it feels creepy in here.

1:22:10

Like I feel like I'm taking a

1:22:12

piss and someone is watching me, right?

1:22:14

So are we in in the Garden of

1:22:16

Eden still? If you look at the Garden

1:22:18

of Eden story, then that's sort of where

1:22:21

like the Truman show, which is kind of

1:22:23

Garden of Eden E, right, where it's like

1:22:25

this whole Omni present. And I

1:22:27

think we're creeping up that way because

1:22:29

like right now 100% there is listening

1:22:31

in on us here like they're

1:22:33

they're 100% listening so tech we

1:22:35

sleep with this on us we give

1:22:37

them our biometric data and all of

1:22:39

our health data you don't think Samsung

1:22:42

is collecting all this data and

1:22:44

everything right you know what I'm

1:22:46

saying like we're already willingly giving

1:22:48

up this information I said we're

1:22:50

the we're the free-range chickens right

1:22:53

now and we're And this control,

1:22:55

how you're saying, this controlled

1:22:57

group, which it's getting bigger and

1:23:00

bigger and bigger. And Gustav

1:23:02

Laban talked about, right, crowds

1:23:04

and what constitutes a crowd.

1:23:06

Well, a crowd could be an entire

1:23:08

nation of people, right? And you

1:23:10

know, ideas start traveling in

1:23:12

between them. Maybe that's the

1:23:15

phenomenon that they're trying to

1:23:17

to investigate, but there's

1:23:19

oh. At the core of this whole

1:23:22

thing it's like where does the is

1:23:24

there the conspiracy is is there

1:23:26

a quantum state? informational freeway

1:23:29

sort of thing right and who

1:23:31

can tap into or what can

1:23:33

tap into it? How you're saying

1:23:35

are the higher ups interdimensional lizard

1:23:38

people or moon children or whatever

1:23:40

it is because it's just making

1:23:43

me think of how many people

1:23:45

are born to be in that class

1:23:47

because if you look at like the whole

1:23:49

shaman class it's always a select group of

1:23:51

people who are put in that position

1:23:54

it's not just anybody they either need

1:23:56

to be initiated or they're born into

1:23:58

that it seems like the people war

1:24:00

at the top are usually born

1:24:02

to be there. They've been a

1:24:05

politician all their life. Their dad's

1:24:07

been a politician or their dad

1:24:09

was a president. When we hear

1:24:12

about like these, you know, families

1:24:14

or royalty or certain classes or

1:24:17

casts in the Indian system. This

1:24:19

a lot has to do with

1:24:21

bloodlines and like when we think

1:24:24

of bloodlines we think of like

1:24:26

ridiculously wealthy British people who have

1:24:29

these like ridiculous homes and they

1:24:31

have a crest and they have

1:24:33

all this old art and crazy

1:24:36

shit. But what we're really talking

1:24:38

about is like what is the

1:24:41

makeup of their blood? What trace

1:24:43

elements are in their blood that

1:24:45

differentiate them from everyone else? And

1:24:48

what are what? What properties do

1:24:50

those elements, those trace elements have?

1:24:53

What does that give them access

1:24:55

to? What does that cut them

1:24:57

off from? And, you know, are

1:25:00

the decisions being made to keep

1:25:02

that cure? Or are decisions being

1:25:04

made to mix it with another

1:25:07

thing that will expand the power

1:25:09

of that genetic... that collection of

1:25:12

genetics, right? I think that this

1:25:14

is a lot of what, you

1:25:16

know, I think there's two different,

1:25:19

well, at least two, let's go,

1:25:21

we'll keep it simple right now,

1:25:24

two different kinds of like arranged

1:25:26

merges, right? And I think some

1:25:28

are pretty basic. and some are

1:25:31

pretty complicated and most are probably

1:25:33

some combination thereof. So arranged marriages

1:25:36

in some societies are really just

1:25:38

about like making sure that your

1:25:40

family has enough stuff, enough land,

1:25:43

or property or people to work

1:25:45

with all that or whatever it

1:25:48

is and other... group societies where

1:25:50

there's a more sort of alchemical

1:25:52

tradition or they're trying to preserve

1:25:55

some You know ancestral technology or

1:25:57

lore are very careful about the

1:26:00

recipe that they're using to bake

1:26:02

the bread, right? And likely some

1:26:04

combination of both of those things

1:26:07

is probably what they feel like

1:26:09

is ideal. But I think that,

1:26:12

you know, and I'm sure you've

1:26:14

probably heard me talk about this

1:26:16

before, like I do think that

1:26:19

this is. some of the knowledge

1:26:21

or law or secrecy that's

1:26:23

being passed down in, you know,

1:26:25

secret societies like, you know,

1:26:27

Scottish Rite Freemasons or Knights

1:26:29

Templar or, you know, any one

1:26:32

any number of these things

1:26:34

is that they understand

1:26:36

that components of their

1:26:38

of themselves and their children.

1:26:40

Right and they're trying to

1:26:43

make sure that that these

1:26:45

ingredients get mixed only with

1:26:47

ingredients that either preserve the

1:26:49

status or improve the status

1:26:51

of the bread you're baking

1:26:53

Right and so I think that they

1:26:55

have almost like gang signals like

1:26:58

you know how like graffiti artists

1:27:00

make tags or gang signals have

1:27:02

symbols that they let people know

1:27:04

what they are so that they

1:27:06

can know if they should interact with

1:27:08

them or interact with them or

1:27:10

not Like, my mom's name is

1:27:13

Ruth Ann Moyer, okay? My mom

1:27:15

was born in 1944, okay?

1:27:17

Element number 44 on the

1:27:19

periodic table is Ruthynium. Ruthynium

1:27:22

sure sounds a lot like

1:27:24

Ruth Ann Moyer, right? It's

1:27:26

okay. So ruthenium is a

1:27:29

superconductive element. It means it

1:27:31

has very low electrical resistance.

1:27:33

Well, I don't know if

1:27:35

you were going to make

1:27:38

someone who could walk through

1:27:40

walls or move through portals or

1:27:42

time travel or dimension travel or

1:27:44

something, my guess would be would

1:27:46

want them to have low electrical

1:27:49

resistance to be superconductive or if

1:27:51

you were right type of thing.

1:27:53

And so, but you need something

1:27:55

to probably balance that out. Right

1:27:58

so you might be looking or

1:28:00

something to catalyze that, right? So

1:28:02

my mom's father was a Mason,

1:28:05

right? He also was a lifelong

1:28:07

member of the schizophrenia international research

1:28:09

society. That's a topic for another

1:28:11

day, but I do believe my

1:28:14

mom had compartmentalized schizophrenia, okay, which

1:28:16

turned into Alzheimer's and dementia in

1:28:18

her older age, and your buddy

1:28:20

Thomas tells us all about how

1:28:22

that works, right? Okay, and how

1:28:25

the masons are obsessed with dementia,

1:28:27

pre-cox, right? This is why they're

1:28:29

obsessed with it. But my mom

1:28:31

was Ruthanne Muir, number four. So

1:28:34

I'm saying that the periodic table

1:28:36

could almost be like an outgrowth

1:28:38

of the Masonic floorboard. And then

1:28:40

she never, 44, right? She was

1:28:42

born in 1944 and he named

1:28:45

her Ruthanne, right? And, you know,

1:28:47

so it's a way of saying,

1:28:49

hey, like my kid comes with

1:28:51

Ruthinium in the blood. Right, and

1:28:54

my mom was supposed to go

1:28:56

to Stanford, right? And at the

1:28:58

last minute, she decided she wanted

1:29:00

to go to UCLA and her

1:29:03

dad lost his shit, right? And

1:29:05

it was like, you know, UCLA

1:29:07

is the little red schoolhouse, you

1:29:09

know, like. And Ruthinium can be

1:29:11

found in blood too, that's crazy.

1:29:14

I don't, I've done my research.

1:29:16

I'll say, you want to know,

1:29:18

you want to know where you

1:29:20

find Ruthinium? It's one of the

1:29:23

places where there's the most deposit

1:29:25

of it. And Oklo Gabon is

1:29:27

where there's the two billion-year-old natural

1:29:29

fission reactor. And how they know

1:29:31

that there was a natural fission

1:29:34

reactor there is because of the

1:29:36

amount of ruthenium that's in the

1:29:38

soil. Right? And so... Where is

1:29:40

this? Oklo Gabon. Ok-L-O-Gabon. It's in

1:29:43

a country in Africa. Look up

1:29:45

to fission reactor Oklo-L-Gabon. I can't

1:29:47

even bring it. I don't understand

1:29:49

how to scream. The natural nuclear

1:29:51

reactor located in West Africa is

1:29:54

a geological phenomenon where natural nuclear

1:29:56

vision reacts occurred approximately 1.7 billion

1:29:58

years ago and it's the The

1:30:00

only known example of such a

1:30:03

reactor. What the fuck? So I'll look

1:30:05

this, I'll show you this. I was

1:30:07

looking at a lot of these things

1:30:09

simultaneously, but like not intentionally. I happen

1:30:12

to be researching some things about my

1:30:14

mom and researching some things about fission

1:30:16

and fusion and whatever it is. The

1:30:19

oklo phenomenon, a natural nuclear reactor discovered

1:30:21

in Gabon, demonstrates that fission products, including

1:30:23

ruthenium, were captured in rock grains, offering

1:30:26

insights into nuclear waste storage

1:30:28

and the behavior of radioactive

1:30:30

elements over vast geological timescales.

1:30:32

Would they sacrifice people

1:30:34

here? How does that work? Well,

1:30:37

Gabon is also the culture where

1:30:39

we get Iboga from and I

1:30:41

did a bunch of shows with

1:30:43

James Johansson, who's very well studied

1:30:45

on iBoga, where we threaded together

1:30:47

a whole bunch of stuff. And

1:30:50

I think that the bark of

1:30:52

the tree, which is the tabernath

1:30:54

tree that they're using in their

1:30:56

iBoga ceremonies, is probably uptaking rutinium

1:30:58

from the soil into the root.

1:31:00

And so the information of those

1:31:02

reactions from all that distance back

1:31:05

in time is sort of coming

1:31:07

into the bodies of these

1:31:09

people and they're able to

1:31:11

transfer ancestral information through these

1:31:13

rituals. They're like time travel

1:31:15

ceremonial rituals, right? All that

1:31:17

and all that stuff has

1:31:19

the information of everything that's

1:31:22

happened there stored in it, right?

1:31:24

Okay, so So my mom is Ruth Ann

1:31:26

Moyer. She represents Ruthinium on the

1:31:28

periodic table. Like her dad lost

1:31:30

his shit when she wanted to

1:31:32

go to ECLA. Little Red School

1:31:35

House, he was afraid of communists,

1:31:37

he was a banker that had worked for

1:31:39

the war department and moved to

1:31:41

Sacramento and the migration of those

1:31:43

people out to the west coast. But

1:31:45

suddenly he became okay with things when

1:31:48

my mother, through being fixed up, met my

1:31:50

father. And it's weird because my father

1:31:52

was a Jewish man and my grandfather

1:31:54

was not and you'd think he wouldn't

1:31:56

have been okay with that. But it just

1:31:58

so happens that my... My father's name

1:32:01

is Richard Allen Moyer, and

1:32:03

I have figured out through

1:32:05

a similar process of divination

1:32:07

that my father represents radium

1:32:09

on the periodic table. So

1:32:11

radium is element 88. So

1:32:13

my mom is 44, and

1:32:15

my dad is 88. Now,

1:32:17

88 is double 44, so

1:32:19

that's interesting. But if you

1:32:21

add 44 and 88, you

1:32:23

get 132. One plus 32

1:32:25

is 33. It seems to

1:32:28

me that that might be

1:32:30

the signature of how Mason's

1:32:32

coded some of their some

1:32:34

of their stuff, right? Both

1:32:36

of my parents, like their

1:32:38

initial is RAM. What is

1:32:40

RAM? RAM is random access

1:32:42

memory in computer terminology, right?

1:32:44

So if you put these

1:32:46

two things together, are you

1:32:48

creating? a perfect genetic lineage

1:32:50

that is able to sort

1:32:52

of tap back into all

1:32:55

of the data stored, like

1:32:57

throughout, you know, in the

1:32:59

family lineage throughout history, able

1:33:01

to create a child, maybe

1:33:03

even a moon child, which

1:33:05

might astrology and my birthday

1:33:07

and all of the circumstances

1:33:09

of my birth seem to

1:33:11

match up to. I don't

1:33:13

understand what that is. I

1:33:15

don't know if I believe

1:33:17

that or not, but it's

1:33:19

weird that when I read

1:33:22

about it, I'm like, well,

1:33:24

that's weird. It matches everything

1:33:26

from when I was born.

1:33:28

Like, what if what the

1:33:30

moon child is is the

1:33:32

one who can tap into

1:33:34

that RAM? What's your what's

1:33:36

your element? So

1:33:39

I've heard, I don't know, I've

1:33:41

heard iridium from somebody, right? I'm

1:33:43

not sure. I haven't done the

1:33:45

work on myself yet, right? It's

1:33:47

a deep dive every time you