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A Listener Production.

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Hello guys. Hello. We

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are here to introduce

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a Greatest Hits episode

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because as you know we got back

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from South Africa, no

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I always just say it like Arnold

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Schwarzenegger. South Africa. South Africa.

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Last week so we needed to have a little

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bit of a

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sleepy time. Rest and recuperation. Rest

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and recuperation. And

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so we're dropping another one of

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our faves from the back catalogue.

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Roughly two

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years old this one. I remember

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actually exactly where I was sitting

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when you told me this story. I was in Adelaide

0:47

and I was sitting on the floor in

0:49

the hallway with a doona

0:51

because that was the only place I had like soundproofing.

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Whereas I

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had just made it over the Queensland

0:59

border and was on my way back up to

1:02

Cape York

1:03

for the second time.

1:04

Just

1:06

kicking off my second five

1:09

month stint in the far north.

1:11

That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

1:14

Crazy times. Each episode is like a little time capsule

1:16

for us. It is and so many people have said

1:19

going back through because we have so many new listeners

1:21

now who are going back

1:23

and starting from the beginning like

1:25

it is like a weird time capsule

1:27

esque thing us finding

1:30

out about and then dealing with

1:32

COVID and just hearing and like

1:34

people say I want to go back and tell you no

1:36

it's going to get really bad. Stop laughing about it.

1:39

Jacob it's real. So it is strange isn't

1:43

it? Like

1:45

having all that just.

1:47

Going on that journey again. Yeah

1:50

I think the lockdowns are over and then oh no another

1:52

one. Fascinating. Like we accidentally made

1:54

a documentary just about

1:56

us and how we were dealing

1:59

with it.

1:59

Look, there are going to be university courses

2:02

dedicated to the study of this

2:04

podcast at some point. But look,

2:07

I remember where I was. I remember

2:09

very little about this story, except

2:11

that it's a doozy. It's a doozy. It's

2:14

yours. It's a tit flapper. It's

2:16

a tit flapper. Kill dozer.

2:17

I probably remember more than you. Potentially.

2:20

Kill dozer. Take it away.

2:23

A guy gets mad about

2:26

some kind of property

2:28

dispute and builds

2:31

a... He has an army tank

2:33

that he basically turns

2:35

into a deadly weapon. Of

2:38

mass destruction. Yes. And

2:40

he is locked inside this tank

2:43

and he's got cameras and he

2:45

basically goes through the entire town on

2:47

a revenge rampage, just literally

2:50

crushing everything.

2:51

It is the ultimate mantram. Yes.

2:54

He's a giant, giant man, baby. And the thing

2:56

is, this predates Why Our

2:58

Men.

2:59

We recorded this episode months and months before

3:01

Why Our Men became an important part of

3:03

the vernacular, but this truly exemplifies.

3:05

This is a Why Our Men. And

3:08

this is one of those ones where you're like,

3:10

f men for constantly saying

3:12

that women are too emotional. And, but what if

3:15

she gets her period? No, no, men

3:17

are the emotional ones. This guy

3:19

especially. I vaguely remember

3:22

laughing a lot, imagining,

3:25

because I was like, how fast does the tank go? And

3:27

it goes like

3:28

three kilometres an hour. So all these

3:30

people were like running for their lives, but it's just

3:33

going...

3:33

We need

3:35

to republish some of that footage. So

3:38

head to our Instagram to see

3:40

some of that.

3:41

Yeah, it's a really funny,

3:43

weird, bizarro episode. Yeah, we

3:45

think you'll enjoy. Have fun. Take

3:51

it away, my dulcet turned

3:53

jonas. Hello,

3:56

GIST friends, and welcome back for another episode

3:59

of Just the GIST. a weekly-ish podcast

4:01

in which Rosie Waterland and I, Jacob

4:03

Stanley, give you just the gist of what you need

4:06

to know about a story we think you'll find interesting

4:08

enough to share at a dinner party.

4:10

And we are coming to you from the

4:12

past. We are recording this

4:16

on 22nd of

4:18

June. You'll probably be listening to this on

4:21

what, the second of July? But we're

4:24

doing a bit of a pre-record

4:26

this week because I'm going away up north.

4:29

So that means we won't be able to do like

4:31

any breaking news, which

4:34

makes me kind of worried like,

4:36

what if something massive happens between

4:39

now and the second of July? So if that's the case,

4:42

we'll figure out something and we'll

4:44

go ahead and insert breaking news here.

4:51

Or, or we just like

4:53

come and do an episode of our nonsense while

4:55

like World War Three has broken out and

4:57

we're just like, stupid stuff,

5:00

blah, blah, blah. And like the world

5:02

is burning and we're

5:04

just not mentioning it.

5:06

We don't have a crystal

5:08

ball. We can't predict these things. We're

5:11

just not mentioning that like, I don't know,

5:14

Queen Elizabeth died or something. Oh, toy,

5:16

toy, toy, touch wood. God forbid. I

5:19

just, but some, I just feel like whenever we

5:21

don't do breaking news, like whenever

5:23

we record early for whatever reason, I just

5:25

feel like something big will happen.

5:28

You know, we're tempting fate. We'll figure that out

5:30

if that comes along. Isn't that a narcissistic

5:32

way of thinking? Oh, if I don't record

5:35

breaking news, if I am

5:37

not on top of this, something

5:39

big will happen in the world if,

5:42

because just the gist wasn't there

5:44

to talk about it. Where

5:46

will the gistness be without our commentary

5:48

on the culture and the happenings of

5:51

the world?

5:51

I love how we're acting like we would, we

5:53

would put important breaking news in

5:56

breaking news anyway. Like our breaking

5:58

news is always just like a weird.

5:59

thing happened in this small town to do

6:02

with poo. The groundbreaking

6:04

news is never important.

6:09

A rare moment of self-awareness

6:11

from Rosy Waterland. So

6:14

it's your story this week. Your

6:16

JTG. I'm

6:19

gonna relax. I am

6:21

serving you JTG of one of the most

6:23

dramatic and destructive

6:26

mantrums of all time. A

6:28

man tante.

6:29

We love those mantros,

6:33

manties. In Colorado

6:35

lived out this very elaborate revenge

6:38

fantasy by modifying a bulldozer,

6:41

turning it into an indestructible tank,

6:44

and then rampaging through his town,

6:46

destroying anything that belonged to

6:48

anyone that he considered to be an enemy.

6:51

It's the story that's most commonly known

6:54

as the tale of the kill dozer.

6:57

Have you heard of this?

6:58

No, I haven't. When?

7:02

When? Oh,

7:05

recently. Relatively recently. 17 years

7:07

ago. The

7:10

way it kind

7:12

of feels like it must have happened in the 50s. Like,

7:15

you know what I mean? Okay, wow, 2004. Yep.

7:19

I imagined him just like, you know, bulldozing

7:23

farm sheds and wooden

7:25

fences. No, it was modern times.

7:28

Okay. He flattened the town. He's like bulldozing

7:30

people's Toyota Corollas and

7:32

such. Teslas. Okay. Yeah. Oi!

7:35

Okay. Ooh, tell me. Oh, I love

7:37

a good manti.

7:38

So I have to give credit. This topic

7:40

was suggested to us via our Instagram

7:43

DMs from a fellow called Braden.

7:45

Thank you, Braden. This jumped to the top of my

7:47

GIST list immediately because I'd

7:49

never heard of it before. And it made

7:51

me gasp and cackle so much.

7:53

And then anyone that I mentioned it to also

7:56

gasp and cackled uncontrollably

7:58

because it's so outrageous. and silly

8:00

and I absolutely love it and I think you're

8:03

all gonna love it too. Yes.

8:06

So picture a very small town

8:08

in Colorado USA called

8:11

Granby. It's kind of like Schitt's

8:13

Creek sort of vibes in the sense that everyone

8:15

knows everyone. There

8:17

were around 1500 people living there.

8:20

Pretty sleepy little place. It's one of the coldest

8:23

places in all of North America. Yeah,

8:25

I was gonna ask. It's cold in Colorado,

8:27

isn't it? Oh yeah, and there in particular,

8:29

it literally is first

8:32

or second most ridiculously

8:34

cold uncomfortable place on the continent.

8:38

Nothing though had ever happened there to make

8:40

global news ever until on

8:42

June 4th 2004, this

8:45

guy threw the biggest temper

8:47

tantrum that had happened in the United

8:50

States for a long time, taking everyone

8:52

by surprise and making headlines

8:54

all around the world. So

8:57

this rampage that came out of nowhere

9:00

from everyone's perspective commenced at around

9:03

2pm when this monstrous tank

9:06

looking thing that was once just a standard

9:08

bulldozer burst out of the

9:10

workshop where it had been modified in

9:12

secret over the course of 18 months just

9:15

knocked

9:16

right through the wall. And

9:19

at this point... I'm sorry, like

9:21

in a movie. Correct. It doesn't even

9:23

bother going through the gate just through

9:26

the wall.

9:27

Just straight through the wall. Yeah.

9:31

I think now's a good time for you to just do a

9:33

quick little Google image search

9:35

for kill dozers so that

9:37

you've got an accurate image in your mind of what this

9:40

beast of a machine looked like.

9:41

Whoa, it's huge. Ridiculous.

9:46

It's so enormous. It's

9:49

like a tank. It genuinely

9:51

is like a tank. And

9:54

it uses...

9:55

Okay, I assume this is where the story's going,

9:57

but there's footage of it like going down what looks

9:59

like a tank. a freeway and

10:01

it looks like a big bulldozer

10:04

tank like that on a freeway. It looks a

10:06

lot like the images

10:08

of tanks in Tiananmen Square, like

10:10

just a huge tank on a

10:12

big

10:13

empty road. Weird.

10:17

Okay. Continue. So, it used

10:19

to just be a standard piece of earth moving

10:22

equipment, but he turned it into this weapon

10:25

of mass destruction covered in 20,000 kilograms

10:27

worth of armour.

10:31

It looks a lot like for

10:33

those who are our age, like

10:36

a vehicle out of that old

10:38

movie Tank Girl. Do you remember that? Oh

10:41

yeah. Or for people who

10:43

live now Mad

10:44

Max Fury Road, you know, with

10:46

Charlie's Theron. It looks like one of those thrown

10:49

together post-apocalyptic

10:51

world in the desert, just

10:53

a bunch of metal scraps made

10:55

into a big

10:57

vehicle killer

10:59

machine.

10:59

Yes, intended to look as threatening

11:02

as possible. Yes. So,

11:05

the armour that you're looking at there, that's

11:07

plating, that went all over the cabin

11:10

and the engine, that armour was kind

11:12

of made like a sandwich. And

11:14

the bread of the sandwich was

11:16

steel that was four centimetres thick.

11:19

And then the filling of the sandwich was

11:22

solid concrete. And in some sections,

11:24

the entire sandwich was more than 30

11:27

centimetres thick. Like this was

11:29

serious hardcore armour. I

11:32

mean, I'm assuming he's a total psychopath, but don't

11:34

you just wish you were smart enough to build something

11:36

like that? Like I find engineering

11:38

and design so fascinating. I

11:40

could never do that. If I got angry

11:42

enough that I wanted to bulldoze

11:45

my town in revenge,

11:47

I'd think about it for five minutes and go, well, I

11:49

can't do that. Yeah. But this

11:51

guy had... Like King Karashi and getting her law

11:54

degree. Sorry,

11:56

we just talked about that because we just recorded

11:59

that episode.

11:59

before this one, if you remember from last

12:02

week, but it's one of those things where I would go,

12:04

that's just not my skill set. I

12:06

can't build

12:07

a kildoser. Yeah. Well, it was

12:10

Marv Heemeyer's skill set. He'd

12:12

been an expert welder in the Air Force,

12:14

and then he owned his own muffler repair business.

12:17

So like this was his field of expertise,

12:19

modifying pieces of equipment. Marv

12:22

and Heemeyer.

12:23

Marv and Heemeyer, what a name.

12:26

Okay, Marvin. So he knows

12:29

how to build cars and things.

12:31

Yeah. Steel. He would

12:34

constantly be modifying snowmobiles

12:36

and whatnot. Welding. Yeah. All

12:38

those things

12:39

that... Like that scene in Flashdance where

12:41

she welds. Yeah. That kind

12:43

of thing. Along those lines. Yeah. Okay.

12:47

I gotcha. So he applied that

12:49

expertise to this little revenge project. Like I said, he worked on

12:51

it for a year and a half and then

12:53

burst the kildoser out of

12:55

the building that used to once upon a time

12:58

be his very successful muffler repair

13:00

business. And he had a lot

13:02

of hate in his heart. He had a personal

13:05

vendetta against pretty much everyone

13:07

in the town and he had a plan to

13:09

ruin their lives. Tell

13:11

me about it. So off he went. I want

13:14

to know. Straight to the property next door, moving at

13:16

a speed of about 10 kilometers

13:18

per hour. Like this thing was big and heavy. Wait, but are

13:20

you going to tell me why? Oh, yes, definitely.

13:23

And as

13:23

I get through the victims, we'll explain

13:26

why he hated each of them individually.

13:29

I was like, I want to know the petty grievances.

13:31

Okay, you'll get to those. We will. That's

13:33

going to be the best part. On an individual

13:36

basis, yes. Yes, okay. So

13:38

target number one was the Mountain

13:40

Park concrete factory. He

13:42

immediately flattened one of the small

13:45

office buildings there.

13:47

Marv hated the concrete factory.

13:50

He never wanted it to be built next door

13:52

to his muffler shop. Obviously, he lost

13:54

that fight because there it was.

13:57

He hated the guy who built it in

13:59

the first place. and he blamed the town

14:01

council for letting him build it. Most

14:03

of the grievances come back to the fact that this concrete

14:06

factory existed at all, because

14:09

I mean, there's all sorts of boring detail

14:12

when it comes to zoning disputes and

14:14

land ownership rights and whatnot,

14:16

which is ultimately what it comes down to, but

14:18

we won't get into that. The

14:21

dispute had been going on for more than a decade

14:24

and Marv would have just been thrilled to

14:26

see Cody's building

14:29

crumble and Cody knew immediately

14:31

that it had to be Marv behind this because

14:33

the two of them were enemies.

14:36

So this tank bulldozer

14:38

is so strong, it can knock over a

14:40

building.

14:41

Oh yeah, big ones, yes. It's

14:44

got so much force behind it

14:46

with all that extra weight in particular

14:48

that it could just knock over

14:51

entire walls. And that was the

14:53

sort of strategy that Marv used with all the

14:55

buildings that he took down. He would knock down the facade

14:58

first, then he'd take down one of the

15:00

side walls and then the entire thing would

15:02

just collapse.

15:03

And then would he have to kind of reverse really

15:06

slowly? Beep, beep, beep,

15:09

beep, and like do a three point turn and

15:11

then go back in again. All

15:14

right,

15:14

go for it Marv. A

15:17

receptionist who was working at a different business

15:20

next door saw what was happening out

15:22

of her front window and immediately called 911,

15:25

tried to help the operator understand what

15:27

was going on and reassure them. This

15:29

was not a prank call. There was actually

15:32

a homemade tank demolishing

15:34

the concrete plant. And oh, look at that.

15:37

Cody Doecheff, the owner of the concrete

15:39

plant was now outside shooting

15:41

at the thing, attacking his building with

15:44

a little small

15:44

pistol. And sure enough,

15:47

he had done exactly, oh,

15:50

it did nothing. It's just bounced

15:52

off like there were pieces of popcorn.

15:54

That's the genius of a giant tank

15:56

bulldozer. Who can stop

15:58

you? No

16:01

one, as we will come to discover. So

16:04

the Kildos had just moved on to the next building

16:06

in the concrete plant, knocked the

16:08

walls down, the roof collapsed. Cody

16:11

and his crew on site frantically

16:13

tried to shove big metal rods

16:15

into the treads of the dozer

16:17

to try to stop it. That

16:19

didn't work. The treads just chewed the rods

16:22

up and spat them out. So then Cody,

16:24

who was in his 90s, tried to... What?

16:28

Yeah. I mean, I assumed he was like

16:30

a 23-year-old stoner. Who's

16:33

called Cody in their 90s?

16:35

He was a Bulgarian immigrant. What?

16:38

I know. It must have been in his

16:40

name. Cody's the name of a surf

16:43

bro frat boy. Right.

16:45

Okay. Okay. All

16:47

right. That's re- I'm recalibrating in my brain. Cody

16:50

is 90.

16:50

Okay. Here we go. Picture

16:53

a very old weathered man in a flannelette shirt with a trucker cap

16:55

on. And he tried to climb on top

16:57

of the dozer. But Marv had

17:00

thought a few steps ahead and he'd greased

17:02

up the entire dozer with

17:04

lubricant. So it was impossible to

17:06

get a grip anywhere. That

17:09

is so

17:09

smart. I

17:11

was like spikes. But no, why

17:14

would you bother with spikes? Just grease it

17:15

up. Yeah. Just get some vaso on there.

17:18

Oh, that's so funny. And so Cody kept trying to

17:20

climb and he'd just keep slipping off. So

17:23

then Cody decided he would

17:25

have to fight off the kill dozer with one of his

17:27

own big boy toys. So he went and

17:29

got his big front end loader and

17:31

he drove it at the kill dozer as fast

17:34

as he could. What's a front end loader?

17:36

It's like one of the lifty machines.

17:38

Oh yeah,

17:39

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. I'm

17:41

doing a scooping action with my hands. All my

17:43

knowledge of what you're describing comes

17:46

from when Muhammad used to watch Bob the Builder. So

17:49

I know from that which one you mean.

17:51

Okay. Yes. So 10

17:53

kilometers per hour. He just ran

17:56

out of the kill dozer. And

17:58

of course, he just...

17:59

Just bounced right off it. Yeah,

18:02

of course. It's like that scene

18:04

in Austin Powers where the steamroller

18:06

is going towards the man and he's like, no,

18:09

no, no. And it's going so slow.

18:12

It's so comical.

18:14

It's kind

18:16

of like this entire incident

18:19

when you watch footage,

18:21

like all of it is happening in such slow

18:24

motion, but they're just so powerless to

18:26

do anything to

18:27

stop it. Because it's just so huge and indestructural.

18:30

Then Cody thought he might be able to flip

18:33

the Kildoser onto its side if he

18:35

tried getting leverage under it with his

18:37

goopy thingy. All

18:39

he did though was sort of lever

18:42

up the back of his own vehicle a

18:44

few meters up into the air. And

18:46

so then when his vehicle crashed back to

18:49

the ground, it knocked Cody entirely

18:51

unconscious inside of the cabin because of the feet

18:53

impact. Oh, stop it. Oh, no.

18:55

And so the Kildoser just

18:57

kept knocking down the concrete

18:59

plant and then a cop finally

19:01

arrived. He couldn't believe what he was seeing

19:04

and he didn't really know what to do. So he called

19:06

for backup and then got out of his car

19:08

and tried yelling at the dozer demanding

19:11

that it stop in the name of the law.

19:13

Yelling like old

19:15

man yells at cloud. And then the

19:17

yelling didn't work.

19:20

So then

19:22

he tried shooting the Kildoser with his rifle

19:25

and that, of course, didn't even dent

19:27

the shell at all.

19:29

More cops then arrived on

19:31

the scene in response to the call for backup. I'm already

19:33

exhausted and we're only at the first

19:37

place. There's so much more to come. Oh,

19:39

my God. OK. OK. And

19:42

the cops are following from this. I thought maybe

19:44

he'd get to a few places before the cops got

19:46

onto it. No, they're there from the start.

19:48

Oh, yeah. And by now, he's probably been already

19:50

going for about 15, 20 minutes because, you

19:52

know, the speed at which this thing moves pretty

19:55

limited. This is

19:56

pretty subtly genius, to be

19:58

honest. This is. Gee,

20:00

this is smart. I'll say it here. Marv

20:03

was a jerk, but he was very clever

20:05

and very skilled.

20:07

Total asshole, but like he

20:09

built this thing so perfectly and he thought of

20:11

everything. When the cops showed up, the

20:14

Kildoser sent a very direct message

20:16

to the cops that they were not to meddle.

20:19

There were three very high powered

20:21

guns set up around the Kildoser

20:23

and they started firing warning shots

20:26

near the cops to warn them that this was a fully

20:28

equipped war machine. Didn't

20:31

hurt any of the cops luckily. And then

20:33

a few shots went off near Cody,

20:35

which woke him up out of his little coma.

20:38

He saw that the damage had been done. His concrete

20:41

plant was completely gone. So he ran over

20:43

to the cops and told them he was certain that this was

20:45

the work of Marv Heemeyer and

20:47

he must be up in the hills somewhere

20:49

around the town controlling the thing via

20:52

remote control. Oh,

20:53

I thought he was inside it. Well, he

20:55

was, but they didn't think he was at that point

20:58

because there are no windows in the

21:00

armour you might have noticed.

21:01

So how would he see? Yeah. They had no

21:03

idea, but he had five cameras

21:06

rigged up around the perimeter of the

21:08

tank and he was sitting inside watching

21:10

everything through monitors that he had set

21:13

up.

21:14

He is a diabolical genius.

21:15

Really and truly. And

21:18

this is how much he'd thought about it. The cameras

21:20

were protected by bulletproof glass, 10 centimetres

21:24

thick. And each of those cameras

21:26

also had a pressurised air gun set

21:28

up in front of it so that if dust or debris

21:31

started to block the glass, he could

21:33

use air to blow it away so

21:35

that his visibility wasn't compromised.

21:37

He has legit thought of everything. Oh, yeah.

21:41

He even installed

21:43

air conditioning inside so that he'd be nice

21:45

and comfortable throughout the air page. I

21:47

was going to say, is he sweating his arse off?

21:49

No, he installed air conditioning. And

21:52

he brought snacks. Ah,

21:55

what snacks, Tino? I'm

21:57

guessing beef jerky, but no, I didn't get

21:59

any. Oh, not some like triple

22:01

cream brie, some crackers. I

22:05

think he was more of a Doritos

22:06

kind of guy. Yeah. What

22:08

do they have in the US? Cool Ranch

22:10

Doritos. Yeah, that feels

22:12

like his life. And Buzz Light. Right?

22:15

Oh yeah, he probably had a couple of beers.

22:17

I should probably give you a bit of a description of him.

22:19

So you've got a mental image of Marv

22:21

Hema, 53 years old,

22:24

classic boomer, wore

22:27

Birkenstocks with socks and wrap around

22:29

sunnies. I wear Birkenstocks

22:32

with socks. That's kind of hipster now. Is

22:34

it hipster or is it chewy? No,

22:37

maybe it's chewy. I wear gorman socks because socks

22:40

are the only thing gorman makes that fits me. And

22:43

I wear gorman socks, my

22:46

black Birkenstocks and that's

22:48

what I wear on the weekend when I'm going to the shops

22:50

with my athleisure wear with

22:52

tights and a

22:53

jumper or whatever. I'm

22:57

not going to comment. So look, look,

23:00

when was this? Did you say 2004? So

23:02

back then it was daggy. Now it's kind

23:04

of hipster. That's all I'm saying. Sure.

23:07

Don't judge. Okay. Well,

23:10

he was definitely doing it non ironically

23:13

and certainly wasn't any sort of fashion choice.

23:15

Really it was just a comfort with him.

23:17

Oh, did he wear, did he wear Oakley

23:20

sunnies, the wrap around Oakley sunnies?

23:23

Yes, with those neoprene necklace

23:25

things.

23:27

Maybe you can like hold

23:27

it around your neck.

23:29

Yeah, I'm totally

23:31

picturing him. To wear a floral Hawaiian

23:33

shirt when he was posing in photos with

23:35

big guns and big bullets and dead

23:38

fish.

23:39

I feel like I don't even have to ask, but he's super

23:41

white, isn't he? He's a white guy. Yes,

23:44

he was. And everyone in the town was. It

23:46

is the most homogenous town I've

23:48

ever seen.

23:50

So super white and

23:52

is he like, kind

23:54

of looks like he's been

23:56

in like a very

23:59

straight like. probably been in the army,

24:02

probably, you know, if

24:04

he has kids, like makes them

24:07

stay outside in the cold as punishment

24:09

for, you know, if he has a son and he wants

24:11

to do ballet, he's like, no, like the dad

24:14

in Billy Elliot, but

24:17

who doesn't turn nice in the end.

24:18

Definitely that kind of aesthetic.

24:20

He was never married and he never had kids,

24:23

but you're spot on. He was in the air force.

24:26

So he had that sort of discipline

24:28

military background. And

24:31

yes, you know, very short silver hair

24:33

and a short silver bead.

24:36

Is he kind of red faced,

24:38

like he's white, but always looks a bit

24:41

sunburned and angry, weathered, weathered

24:43

is a good way of putting it. Gotcha. Yeah. Also,

24:46

no

24:47

surprises. He was a Scorpio.

24:49

This whole revenge plot had such

24:51

Scorpio energy. Scorpios,

24:54

as we know, hold a grudge and take

24:56

vengeance like no other sign.

24:58

I was going to say, you know how you always

25:01

read terrible things about like so

25:04

and so

25:05

flipped out and murdered his entire

25:07

family or so and so, you know,

25:10

snapped and took revenge and went on a shooting

25:13

and you go and look at the photo and you're like, yeah, not

25:15

surprised. Like, is that how he looks? He

25:17

just looks like you'd go. Yep, I can see that.

25:19

Yeah. Yeah. It tracks.

25:22

Yeah. Yeah, it tracks. So

25:25

Marv finished demolishing his

25:27

enemy Cody's concrete plant and everyone

25:30

at the scene hoped that this was the end

25:32

of it, that he demolished his

25:34

enemies

25:36

entire business and world. Yeah,

25:39

it was all over, but no, no, no, no, no. Marv

25:41

was just warming up. He started firing

25:44

at all of the cops cars again to

25:46

get all the cops out of the way so that he could

25:49

rampage directly at the

25:51

cops cars and just roll over

25:53

the top of them as he headed off into

25:56

the main part of town. This was just

25:58

the beginning.

25:59

He's literally built a war machine, like

26:01

the fact that he's inside with

26:04

no visibility except from cameras, but

26:06

he can control guns and

26:08

aim them with precision. Like

26:11

that is a war machine.

26:12

No kidding. This thing is a tank.

26:14

Like, we'll keep calling it a dozer or a kildoser

26:17

from time to time, but it is a tank.

26:18

It's a tank. And I bet because he's white,

26:21

he doesn't get charged with terrorism, but this is

26:23

essentially an act of terrorism. He has built a

26:25

war machine.

26:26

Yeah, it was classified as an act of terrorism. Oh,

26:28

good. Which means a lot of the people that

26:30

you're going to hear about end up

26:33

penniless because they didn't have insurance

26:35

for acts of terrorism specifically. Oh

26:37

no. Okay. All

26:39

right. And Marv possibly knew that. Anyway,

26:43

off he went. So he runs over the police cars and

26:45

off he goes. And the cops, they were just powerless

26:48

to do anything. So they just followed along on

26:50

foot because they didn't have their cars anymore.

26:53

It's really fun.

26:53

Every two

26:56

seconds I want to start laughing at the visual,

26:58

but it's going slow

27:01

enough that the police can follow

27:03

it on foot, but it's like futile. What

27:06

are you going to do? Throw a rock at it? Like,

27:08

what are you going to do? And

27:09

they're not even walking at

27:12

a brisk pace. Briskly. They're

27:14

walking very slowly. Like a funeral possession.

27:17

Yeah. They're pointlessly also

27:19

got their guns pointed

27:22

at the dozer. What

27:24

are you going to do? Knowing that there's nothing that they

27:26

could do.

27:27

But. I'm dying. Okay.

27:30

As Marv drove past a building, one

27:32

of the officers managed to get up onto the roof

27:35

of that building and then jump onto the roof

27:37

of the tank. And while

27:39

he was up there. And the lube didn't slip him

27:41

off. He was up there for

27:44

a surprising amount of time trying to find a way

27:46

to get inside, but he couldn't find an entry

27:48

point at all because Marv

27:51

had welded himself inside.

27:53

What?

27:55

He wanted to make

27:57

sure there was absolutely no way anyone

27:59

could get inside.

27:59

in and thwart him. But

28:02

you said there's air conditioning, which means there has

28:04

to be an outside vent.

28:05

And when the cop found

28:08

that vent, he started shooting bullets

28:10

in there. That had absolutely

28:13

no effect. There was some sort of

28:15

defense system set up in there. It

28:18

reached a point where one of the cops who

28:20

was down on the ground said, try some flash

28:22

bang grenades, which are just things that

28:25

make a loud noise and a bright spark. He

28:27

started throwing them down the air vent, even

28:29

that didn't work. All

28:32

the cops who were flanking the

28:34

Kildos are kept yelling up different

28:35

suggestions, but none of them

28:38

worked because... But

28:38

I bet he had thought of everything. Yeah,

28:41

he had thought of everything. Then.

28:44

It's so, okay, I know you're saying then,

28:47

but imagine if you were someone in the town

28:49

who had wronged Marvin in some way. And

28:52

you're like,

28:53

I know he's coming for me, but

28:55

you can't stop it. You're like, he's

28:58

going to get here in 20 minutes, half an hour,

29:00

an hour, and he will come

29:02

and he will run over my house. And

29:05

you can't, it's a tank. Nothing like it's

29:07

two. It's like very slowly

29:10

waiting to be attacked. Exactly.

29:13

There's nothing you can do.

29:14

It's so funny. What

29:18

can you do? I know. Until he got

29:20

into town though, not a lot of people knew that this

29:22

was going on. So the first

29:24

people that were caught by surprise were working

29:27

at the Mountain Park Electric Building

29:29

and Marv got there and just completely demolished

29:31

it. Why did he demolish it? He

29:34

didn't like one of the guys who worked there. That

29:36

guy's name was Dick and Dick

29:38

was on the town council and Dick

29:40

had voted for the concrete plant. The

29:43

concrete plant, okay. So

29:44

that business had to go. Then next

29:47

door, Maple Street Builders. He

29:50

knocked that completely flat. Why? Because

29:52

the owner of that business, a guy called

29:54

George, had declined to sign

29:57

Marv's petition against the

29:59

concrete plant.

29:59

plant being built. That

30:02

was his only

30:05

grievance, but it was enough

30:07

to

30:08

just completely destroy

30:10

George's income and livelihood.

30:19

It makes you kind of think, if I step

30:21

out in the world tomorrow, I should

30:24

just be careful to not ever wrong anyone,

30:27

because you never know who's going to

30:29

be a Marv, what's his name? Heimayer.

30:32

Heimayer. Heimayer. And

30:35

just snap. And one day, 10

30:37

years from now, a tank is

30:40

approaching your house and

30:42

you're like, what is happening? And

30:44

the man inside says, I approached

30:46

you on the street one day and you didn't sign

30:49

my petition. Like, what? It

30:54

just makes

30:54

you think, I got to just be kind

30:56

to everyone always, because you never know

30:58

who is a psycho.

31:00

Sign every petition, Gistners.

31:03

It's a precautionary measure.

31:06

At this point, 911 operators

31:09

started doing reverse calls to call

31:12

all of the people who lived in the town and

31:14

they told them, you need to shelter

31:17

inside because there's a madman

31:19

on the loose, which is such a genius

31:22

thing to tell people to stay inside the

31:24

buildings that are quite likely to be

31:26

demolished by the guy who's going around

31:28

demolishing buildings.

31:30

Exactly. The one weapon you have

31:32

is that you can walk faster than the

31:34

tank. So do not

31:36

shelter inside a building.

31:40

Get out on the street. Run. You

31:42

don't even have to run. Walk. Walk

31:44

at a brisk pace and you'll be safe. Oh

31:47

my God.

31:49

Thankfully, not a

31:51

lot of people took notice of that suggestion

31:54

from the emergency services. Instead,

31:56

the rampage started to draw a big

31:58

crowd because...

31:59

Everyone obviously wanted to see what was going

32:02

on. So there was this group of

32:04

people just walking around on

32:06

foot, open mouthed, watching as

32:08

Marv's kildoser just systematically

32:11

destroyed the town they lived

32:13

in. Does

32:14

he have a little trail like the Pied Piper?

32:16

Like people walking by? Yes.

32:20

It's the kildoser, it's the cops

32:22

on either side, and then it's just looky-loos

32:24

coming along. Oh my God. Like when

32:27

OJ Simpson was in

32:29

the white Bronco chase when he took off

32:31

in the car, and people started

32:34

lining the side of the highway because they knew

32:36

he was coming and lining up

32:38

on the overpasses because they were like, oh, he's 10

32:40

minutes away. Let's run out there and wave

32:43

when he goes past.

32:44

It's our chance to be part of history. Yeah,

32:48

and then Marv went off to take down

32:50

the town hall, and they were a pretty obvious

32:53

target for him. They were the ones

32:55

who he believed had been trying

32:57

to suppress him and his business, which, I

32:59

mean, his business was actually very, very

33:02

successful. He just didn't get

33:04

what he wanted because the concrete plant

33:06

was built, and that made things just slightly

33:09

more challenging for him in certain ways.

33:11

Right, so it didn't put him out of business.

33:13

Not at all, no. It was

33:16

just one white straight

33:18

man not getting his

33:21

way once. Yes. Made

33:23

him lose his mind. You know what I'm going to say?

33:27

Gender dynamics. Why

33:30

are men? OK,

33:33

you may continue.

33:33

So, OK, he was angry about the concrete

33:36

plant. He also felt it was very unfair

33:38

that he started getting fines

33:40

for not being connected to the sewage system,

33:43

which. Wait, I'm sorry.

33:46

He's not connected to the sewage

33:48

system. Yep. And

33:51

this was something that he had got away with

33:53

for more than a decade. He had his

33:55

business in Grandby for 13 years. He'd never

33:58

been connected to the sewage system. And the count was...

33:59

Council knew it, but they sort of turned a blind

34:02

eye

34:04

until he kicked up this fuss with the

34:06

concrete plant and then it sort of thrusted

34:08

into the spotlight and they couldn't ignore it anymore.

34:11

So they had to start fining him for the fact that,

34:13

do you want to know what he was doing?

34:15

Yeah, no, I was going to say, may I ask why?

34:18

What was his alternative? He

34:20

had a giant cement mixer

34:23

on the premises and he filled up the

34:25

tank of the cement mixer with

34:27

all of the effluent that he and his

34:30

clients deposited

34:33

and then when it reached the point that it was full

34:35

enough, he would go and empty it into a storm

34:37

water drain. And

34:40

that is an incredibly hazardous

34:42

thing to be doing.

34:44

Yeah, that is so selfish. Yep,

34:47

totally disgusting. But they didn't force

34:50

him to connect to the sewage line because

34:52

it was going to be too expensive, $80,000. Okay,

34:55

I was going to ask you, what

34:57

kind of cost will it be? But

35:00

I mean, that is just

35:02

a cost of being a person in

35:04

the world. Like sorry,

35:07

you can't just shit

35:09

in the middle of the street. You can't just fill

35:12

up a bucket and then go pour

35:14

it wherever you

35:15

want. So

35:17

they were fining him $100 a day

35:19

and he thought that that was very unfair. So the town

35:22

hall had to go and do you think

35:24

he cared that downstairs at the

35:26

town hall was the town library

35:29

and that there were maybe children inside?

35:31

No, he didn't care. Of

35:34

course he didn't care. And in fact, there

35:36

were kids who were in the library that were

35:38

luckily evacuated just minutes

35:40

before he got there and started smashing.

35:43

He completely leveled the town hall

35:45

and destroyed the kids playground outside.

35:48

And if you can believe it, the cop who

35:50

was on top of the dozer was still

35:52

up there when most of

35:54

this happened. Still! He had been

35:56

along for the ride for almost all

35:58

of this time. Just shoot.

35:59

into what he thought might be

36:02

potential weak spots in the armour, but

36:05

he'd run out of bullets and it was time

36:07

to get down.

36:07

Just slip and slide on the lube and

36:10

yep, okay. Then

36:13

the next target was the police station. Marv

36:15

did not like the cops. They were part of the establishment

36:17

that was trying to suppress him. So smashy, smashy,

36:20

goodbye police station.

36:22

He just

36:25

bulldozed the police station. Correct, yes.

36:28

That is truly a sign that

36:30

resistance is futile. He is unstoppable.

36:34

I am dying to know how they stop him. I'm dying,

36:37

okay, keep going. I won't spoil it yet. He

36:39

literally took out the police station. Yes, he

36:41

did. And then off he went to

36:43

the bank and Marv...

36:48

Marv hated the bank because this

36:51

one time in 2003, he was trying to pay the fine that

36:56

I was discussing before about

36:58

the sewage with a cheque.

37:00

He'd made out the cheque to the cowards and

37:03

liars department in the recipient

37:05

field. Oh God, I hate him so much.

37:08

He is definitely an

37:11

incel. He's definitely one

37:13

of those guys who he's not married and he doesn't

37:15

have kids and he thinks it's because women

37:17

are stupid sluts

37:18

who only want to date Brad Pitt. He

37:21

had a girlfriend for a while because

37:23

that was my first thought. I was like, he definitely has to

37:25

be an incel. But when you watch the documentary

37:27

that I'll explain later on, you

37:30

hear from his long-term girlfriend.

37:32

They had broken up at this point. And

37:35

when it comes to that never getting married, never

37:37

having kids think he believes that God

37:39

intended that he never get married

37:42

or have kids so that he could complete this

37:44

holy mission that he was on. Yeah, okay.

37:47

Yeah. Sounds like a Unabomber, which

37:49

is also on my GIST list. Oh, I can't wait

37:51

for that because I know nothing about it.

37:54

Yeah, that's a lot like him. Yeah.

37:57

So it wasn't a problem that he'd used cowards and liars

37:59

in the recipient field.

37:59

recipient field. The problem was

38:02

that when he'd written the check, and

38:05

I've never had to write a check, but I am sort of

38:07

familiar with the concept, I know that you have to write

38:10

the amount in digits as well as

38:12

in words. And he wrote

38:14

it so that the digits didn't match the

38:16

words. And the bank called

38:18

him up and said, Mr. Heemeyer, we're so

38:20

sorry, but we need you to come back in and correct

38:23

the error on your check if you wouldn't mind.

38:25

And that was enough to piss him off, so the bank had

38:27

to go.

38:28

They wouldn't. So,

38:33

bank smashed. Next stop.

38:36

Bank smashed. The local newspaper office,

38:38

Sky High News.

38:39

He's

38:41

just hitting up every important place.

38:43

Most of the staff were still

38:46

there inside the building. The editor

38:48

of the newspaper, Patrick Brower,

38:50

was watching out the window as the

38:52

kildoser came down his street.

38:55

And he didn't think that there was any chance that

38:57

they would be a target because they had run

38:59

free publicity for Marv's muffler

39:01

business. But Patrick

39:04

realised pretty quickly he was entirely

39:06

wrong because the kildoser started

39:09

charging directly at them.

39:11

So Patrick yelled to all of his colleagues,

39:13

evacuate. They managed to get

39:15

out of the back doors of the building seconds

39:18

before Marv started smashing in

39:20

the facade of it. And he wiped

39:23

the place out completely.

39:25

Tell me the petty grievance.

39:27

Well, when the paper wrote

39:29

about Marv's court cases to try

39:31

to stop the construction of Cody's concrete

39:34

plant, Marv did not find the

39:36

articles to be especially flattering when

39:39

they wrote about him. So the paper had

39:41

to go. They

39:43

hadn't said glowing things about his

39:46

fight against the concrete plant. So,

39:48

smashy, smashy. Also,

39:50

smashy, smashy. Marv

39:53

hated Patrick personally because

39:55

one time Marv had rented his

39:57

truck to Patrick and he told Patrick

39:59

up front there were problems with the

40:02

engine or something. The truck

40:04

was returned to Marv in the exact

40:06

same condition that it was rented with the

40:08

exact same engine problems, but Marv

40:10

suddenly started pretending that the engine problems

40:13

had never existed until Patrick

40:15

rented it, blamed Patrick for the

40:17

damage, demanded $800

40:20

compensation from Patrick or

40:22

threatened to sue him, blatant

40:25

extortion, and Patrick thought, okay,

40:27

I'm just going to do the easy thing. I'm just going to give him

40:29

the $800,

40:29

paid that

40:32

ridiculous unnecessary fee.

40:34

Even still though, Marv got exactly what he wanted,

40:37

but still hated Patrick. So Patrick

40:40

had to be punished. But he paid.

40:43

Right? This guy was so unreasonable.

40:47

He's a nutter. He's a nutter. Absolutely.

40:49

And he was far from done. Once

40:52

he'd finished with Sky High News, he then started

40:54

smashing all of the cars in the car park

40:56

outside, doing as much damage as possible.

40:59

Seriously though, there truly is nothing

41:01

more dangerous than a man

41:04

with a huge ego who feels

41:06

that he has been wronged for

41:08

whatever reason. It is scary.

41:11

Yep.

41:11

And I mean,

41:13

the thing is he was

41:15

the only person really that was getting in his

41:17

way at any point. Like

41:20

he was his own

41:20

worst enemy. Which is always the case. Which

41:23

is always the case. Like

41:25

if he didn't have friends and he wasn't embraced

41:27

in the community, it's because he did shit

41:30

like what he did to Patrick. And

41:32

like he absolutely was his own worst

41:35

enemy.

41:36

The police, they were just trying to

41:38

do what they could do. And they

41:41

just

41:42

kept attempting bigger and bigger guns

41:44

with bigger and bigger bullets. But no matter how

41:46

big the gun or the bullet, they would just bounce

41:49

off the tank like

41:51

foam nerf missiles. While

41:53

Marv headed

41:56

off to take down his least

41:58

favorite family in the world.

41:59

of the Tomsons. Marv absolutely

42:02

despised the Tomsons because they were the richest

42:04

family in town. They owned a lot

42:06

of land. They owned a few businesses in

42:09

town and they had quite a lot of power.

42:11

Mr. Thompson Sr. had been the

42:13

town mayor for a while before he died.

42:16

And Marv truly believed that they were the leaders

42:19

of the cabal of people that were trying

42:21

to suppress him and keep him down and

42:23

stop things from going his way. Why

42:26

did he believe it was them? Because they were

42:28

Catholics and

42:29

he believed that all Catholics were evil

42:32

and that they had something against people

42:35

like Marv who was an evangelical type.

42:37

So

42:39

Marv got to the Thompson family home

42:42

and smashed it to pieces, might

42:44

have killed Mrs. Thompson who

42:46

was in her 90s who

42:49

had been asleep just

42:51

minutes before the cops came and evacuated

42:53

her because they could tell that the Thompson house

42:55

was going to be the next target.

42:58

Geez Louise. Then

43:00

Marv went next door, destroyed one

43:02

of the Thompson's businesses and

43:04

by this point just about everyone in town

43:07

was there to watch. Plus all the news

43:09

crews had arrived. Helicopters

43:12

were buzzing around and

43:14

transmitting the footage to the world. So

43:16

a lot of people around the globe were watching live

43:19

because this was such a crazy story.

43:21

So people were watching as this killed

43:24

those of this giant tank, which was by this point

43:26

covered in debris and bricks

43:28

and stuff. It's just slowly

43:30

moving around the town, taking

43:32

out building after building while the cops

43:34

were still there trying to shoot it

43:36

with these giant guns and it just

43:39

had zero impact. Wait,

43:41

so I feel comfortable continuing to laugh.

43:44

Does anyone die? No

43:49

one outside of the tank dies. Ah,

43:52

okay. So I can keep laughing. Okay, here

43:54

we go. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

43:58

This is funny. Yeah. that

44:00

it's called Killdozer is just because it's, you

44:02

know, it's a buzzy, catchy sort

44:04

of word. Sure. I mean, he welded himself

44:07

in. So I wasn't expecting things were,

44:09

I don't think he was expecting a satisfactory

44:15

end for himself. But okay, let's keep going.

44:17

He knew he was never coming up. As

44:19

long as no little old ladies die, and then I feel

44:22

bad that I've been laughing for the last 30 minutes.

44:24

Okay. I wouldn't have presented

44:26

this story in this way if that were

44:28

the case. Okay, good.

44:31

So then Marv started heading to

44:33

the outskirts of town. There was a business

44:35

that he wanted to take out that he

44:38

wasn't happy with because they

44:40

ran the business on land that they rented

44:42

from the Tomsons. And Marv targeted

44:45

a few businesses that he just was pissed

44:47

off about the fact that they were renting

44:49

the land from the Tomsons and thereby supporting

44:51

the Tomsons. But

44:53

you just rent land that is there to be

44:55

rented. What do you, oh

44:57

my God. Okay. Yep.

44:59

He also with this particular

45:02

company, which was a propane company,

45:04

felt that it was unfair that they charged him

45:07

standard $40 fees whenever they

45:09

had to come out to his property. And

45:12

that was another reason he had a big

45:14

vendetta against them. Marv

45:17

got to the property and on

45:20

that space, they stored these giant

45:22

tanks of highly flammable, highly

45:25

explosive propane gas

45:27

outside,

45:29

like just out in the open. These

45:31

giant things like twice the length of

45:33

a bus and Marv.

45:35

Well, they do that on properties, don't they?

45:37

I mean, I assume that's just a country town thing.

45:39

It's a standard practice. Yeah. Yeah. Marv

45:42

positioned the tank and started

45:45

firing very big bullets at the very

45:47

big tanks. To make an exploit. From his very big gun.

45:49

That was his intent. Yes. He wanted to blow

45:51

the big tanks up, cause maximum damage.

45:54

Had he been successful, anything

45:56

in a two kilometer radius would have just been

45:59

blasted away. except for the

46:01

Kildoser. Did you just say

46:03

two kilometer? Two kilometers, that's how

46:05

big the blast would have been because there were multiple

46:07

tanks and if he'd got one to explode, they

46:10

all would have gone. They

46:11

all, so a lot of

46:13

people would, all the police around

46:15

it, oh my goodness.

46:17

And I

46:19

mean, just to paint a picture of how bad

46:21

a tragedy this could have been, there

46:23

was a nursing home next door and

46:26

a trailer park next door full of people

46:28

who had not yet been evacuated. But

46:30

luckily, he'd screwed

46:33

up this one particular element of the design

46:35

of the death machine so the bullets weren't firing

46:37

exactly the way he wanted from the particular

46:40

gun that he was shooting from. And

46:42

so he ended up just getting frustrated, gave

46:44

up on blowing up the propane tanks and

46:47

headed back into town, thankfully.

46:49

That is lucky.

46:51

Oh, very, yes. I mean,

46:53

it could have just been one bullet and the entire

46:55

place would have been a crater.

46:57

The governor of Colorado

47:00

heard about what was going on and in,

47:02

I can only assume, a blind

47:05

panic gave the go-ahead to summon

47:07

the National Guard to use Apache

47:09

helicopters armed with hellfire

47:12

missiles to destroy the

47:14

Killdozer. Well,

47:16

but I mean, you say blind panic, but

47:18

what else are they meant to do? How

47:21

else do you stop this?

47:22

You really have to understand the blast

47:25

radius of the missile that they were planning

47:27

to fire because it would have

47:29

caused significantly more damage than

47:31

Marv had done and was probably

47:33

capable of doing. So it was very

47:36

short-sighted thinking. It

47:38

was sort of their only option, like this is the

47:40

only artillery left available

47:43

to us that we haven't already tried. So

47:45

let's get a crack, but it would have been really

47:48

bad if they've been able to follow through with

47:50

that plan. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. But

47:53

he gave the go-ahead, so they started arranging

47:55

that. In the meantime, the local crew there

47:57

on the ground tried parking and-

47:59

another type of giant earth

48:02

mover in Marv's path.

48:04

And this was a piece of machinery like three

48:07

times the length of the Kildoser.

48:09

But the Kildoser just swatted

48:12

it off like a like a

48:14

shuttlecock in a game of badminton and

48:17

kept on.

48:18

Because he had specifically

48:20

made it with like inches

48:22

thick steel and all that kind

48:24

of stuff like a regular earth mover is going

48:27

to do nothing. And you can see the footage. It doesn't

48:29

matter how much bigger it is. What?

48:31

Yeah, there's footage of all of this because the helicopters

48:34

were recording everything as they're buzzing

48:36

around. So you can watch

48:39

all of the footage of this as it happened.

48:42

Oh, my God. He got back into town

48:44

taking out lamp posts and fire hydrants

48:47

and postboxes, cars, trees,

48:49

everything heading for Gamble's appliance

48:52

store. He hated

48:54

the owner of Gamble's appliance store, Casey,

48:57

because Casey was

48:57

also on the town council and he also

49:00

voted to approve the concrete plant. So

49:02

Marv used his usual favorite

49:04

method, took out the facade and

49:06

then rolled down the side, taking out

49:09

the entire wall. But this time he

49:11

didn't realize that inevitably he was going

49:13

to end up driving over the top of the basement

49:16

of the store, which is what

49:18

happened. So then the right hand

49:20

tread of the dozer was suddenly just whirring

49:23

in midair, couldn't gain purchase

49:26

on anything. And so after

49:27

two hours of rampaging

49:30

around the town, demolishing everything, he

49:32

was suddenly stuck and

49:34

he fought against

49:35

it for about a minute. So basically,

49:38

he's let me just get this right

49:40

in my head. So he's moving

49:45

forward across the ground, but

49:47

then the basement is under the ground

49:50

and the floor falls through. So

49:52

then all of a sudden he's like he's

49:55

hanging over a cliff. The back half

49:57

of the tank is still on the ground, but the front

49:59

half of the tack.

49:59

of the tank is hanging

50:02

over an empty space because

50:04

that's where the basement is. That's right. So he's stuck. Yep.

50:06

Okay. I get it. I get it. Yeah. Okay. It'd be like

50:08

if a car lost the two wheels on the

50:11

right hand side of it. Like he was

50:13

going absolutely nowhere and he

50:15

resisted for about a minute. Just crunching

50:17

all the different gears and trying to

50:19

get it back into action, make it mobile

50:22

again. Then realized it was futile and

50:24

just turned the machine off and

50:27

the cops expected at this point that

50:29

there would be some sort of gunfight

50:32

showdown. So they all retreated

50:35

and

50:36

sought shelter waiting for the

50:38

mob to emerge and continue

50:40

on with his rampage, but he didn't come out.

50:42

So they tentatively approached the kill dozer.

50:45

And as they got closer,

50:46

I'm literally, I'm on the edge of my seat. Oh

50:48

my God. A few of them had

50:50

heard what they thought was a gunshot

50:53

coming from inside the dozer.

50:57

And they thought that they could put together

50:59

what might've happened, but they were still very cautious.

51:01

They thought Marv might pull some sort of kamikaze

51:04

move and just blow the whole thing up. Maybe the entire

51:06

thing. Yeah. I was going to say

51:08

the whole thing might be a bomb. Like, you

51:11

don't know. Yeah.

51:11

The Apache helicopter was thankfully

51:14

called off at this point and the SWAT team

51:16

was sent in. They got there and tried

51:19

to blast open the dozer with

51:21

explosives. Each of the

51:23

bombs that they use did nothing more than

51:25

just leave a mild stain on

51:27

the cladding. They tried three

51:30

different bombs, each bigger than the one

51:32

before it did nothing. Finally,

51:35

they brought in this special cutting

51:37

torch to get inside, but it took

51:39

them 10 hours to cut through

51:41

the steel and the concrete and create

51:44

a hole in the top of the dozer.

51:47

They then sent in a remote controlled device

51:49

with a camera to scout out the inside of the vehicle.

51:51

Cause they assumed it'd probably been booby

51:54

trapped. And so they weren't going to risk sending

51:56

anyone inside. And

51:58

once they did.

51:59

get that robot inside, they

52:02

were able to confirm that Marv

52:04

indeed was in there and that he'd taken

52:07

his own life by gunshot.

52:11

And they confirmed that about 12 hours

52:13

after the rampage began. So

52:18

after the whole incident was done, Marv's

52:21

brother handed over a bunch of audio tapes to

52:23

the FBI that he found in Marv's

52:26

home. And they were homemade recordings

52:28

that Marv had made. And they explained

52:31

in painful detail why he

52:33

believed he had to do what he did.

52:35

You can listen to those tapes

52:37

if you want to. They go for more than two and a half

52:39

hours. They're available on

52:41

YouTube. And if you were to

52:43

listen, what would probably strike you the most

52:46

is what struck me the most.

52:47

He's unbridled narcissism.

52:50

He truly...

52:53

And that's what makes me go immediately, go, I

52:55

don't want to listen to that because what he wanted

52:59

was for everyone to listen to it. It's

53:01

like, no, F you. No, no, thank

53:03

you. Yeah. Like just

53:05

fully had main character syndrome

53:08

to an extreme degree. He believed that

53:10

everyone in the town was fixated on

53:13

trying to get him. He just

53:15

thought that he was the center of everyone's universe.

53:18

Also believed that

53:20

all of this was God's will and that Marv

53:22

was a special chosen vessel for

53:24

God's divine power. And God had

53:26

brought him to Granby to complete

53:29

God's special mission. I mean,

53:32

he truly was...

53:34

You probably pieced this together, a religious

53:37

nut. And he goes

53:39

on and on about how he says, God

53:41

that made this bulldozer available to

53:44

him to purchase in the first place. And

53:46

it was... Yeah, that's what God's concentrating on. God

53:50

made sure that the dozer just

53:52

fit. It was just the right size

53:54

to fit inside his muffler shop.

53:56

And he also says that if God

53:59

didn't want this to happen,

53:59

happen, he would have stopped me at some

54:02

point. But no, God gave me the idea

54:04

to do this. And then... Well,

54:06

by that logic, if God didn't want abortions

54:08

to happen, then he would have stopped those.

54:11

But I guess it only works when

54:13

it applies to things that you want.

54:15

Doesn't it? White straight

54:17

men.

54:20

The logic that he used as well was that

54:22

he would play the lotto every week

54:25

thinking that if God didn't want him to do

54:27

this, then God would make him win lotto

54:29

so then he didn't feel the need to complete this

54:32

mission ever again. Oh my God.

54:34

That's this level of delusion that we're

54:36

dealing with here. He also

54:39

goes into a lot of detail about every

54:41

grievance that he has with every person

54:43

in town. And the funny

54:45

thing is a lot of people have taken that

54:48

on face value. There are thousands

54:50

of people who believe Marv's side

54:53

of the story. They see him as someone who took

54:55

on the man and won. He's kind

54:57

of become this blue collar folk hero

54:59

to anti-government types. They see

55:02

him as the David who beat the

55:04

Goliath and they consider

55:06

him to be a reasonable man who was just pushed

55:09

too far and had no choice but to do

55:11

an unreasonable thing, which is exactly

55:13

how he saw himself. And

55:15

he sort of developed this following, this fan club

55:18

of people who completely agree with

55:20

him.

55:21

But that feels the same as like there

55:23

are so many shooters like

55:26

in the US mass shooters

55:28

who I won't name because they have a rule

55:30

now that you don't name them because that's what they want,

55:33

who have massive online followings

55:36

of people who are like, yeah, he

55:38

never got a girlfriend. Girls were

55:40

mean to him. I totally get it. Or

55:42

yeah, life sucked for

55:44

him. So like I totally

55:46

am behind his thing. And

55:49

to be honest, it is generally

55:52

straight white men

55:55

who have found that life hasn't

55:57

worked out the way that they wanted.

55:59

And toxic masculinity has made them

56:02

feel like there's only one way to be a man.

56:05

And they have struggled to be that kind of man.

56:07

And so they have felt less than, and then

56:09

they have blamed the world for that. And

56:12

there are a lot of men in their wake

56:14

who then look at them and go, I get it.

56:17

Because I feel that way too. And the only

56:19

way to solve this shitty way I feel is

56:21

to hurt other people.

56:22

Like

56:26

the fact that he has people

56:28

who are looking at him as a

56:30

folk hero, it's like, well, if people look at mass

56:33

shooters as folk heroes, then yeah. I

56:36

mean, he did something way more cool and

56:38

I'm surprised I haven't heard of this, to be honest,

56:41

like, because he kind of really went out

56:44

in a blaze of glory, if that's

56:45

how you want to look at it. Yes. So

56:49

once the dust had finally settled

56:52

and the cops had sort of figured out exactly what

56:54

had happened, they broke the

56:56

Kildosar down into very small

56:59

scrap parts and sold it off with various

57:01

different sellers to make

57:04

sure that people didn't know where and when it

57:06

was being sold because they didn't want people

57:08

erecting a shrine to Marv Hemire

57:10

because they knew that they were going to

57:12

be people who started worshipping him. Of course.

57:15

A lot of people, like I said,

57:17

their homes, their cars, their businesses

57:19

were destroyed. They didn't have insurance.

57:22

Yeah. And in such a small town,

57:24

it would have felt like half

57:27

the town was destroyed. Like it

57:29

would have felt monumental.

57:30

Yeah. Yeah. You can

57:32

see there are videos on YouTube where they

57:34

do tours of the town today and you

57:36

can see some of the buildings have been rebuilt.

57:39

Some of them were just completely demolished

57:41

and some of the damage is still there today,

57:43

17 years later. And,

57:46

you know, no one was killed, but

57:49

a lot of people's lives became very difficult

57:51

for the years afterwards. So Marv

57:54

really was just a

57:56

selfish jerk who was destructive

57:59

and violent because

57:59

things didn't go his way. And then he gave the responsibility

58:02

for that to his God rather

58:05

than owning it for himself. He's disgusting.

58:08

Yeah. If you would like to know more,

58:10

there's this really good documentary called Tread

58:12

that came out in 2019. It's

58:14

available on Netflix. U.S.

58:17

If you happen to have a VPN, it's

58:19

also available on YouTube.

58:21

Yes. Is that illegal?

58:25

It to have a

58:27

VPN where you access content

58:30

that is not licensed to Australia. Technically,

58:33

yes, it's illegal because the

58:35

people who made that are not

58:37

getting when when something

58:39

gets licensed to our country,

58:42

they get paid for that. And

58:44

so if we are watching it outside

58:46

of that, then, you know, it's just

58:49

as someone who creates work

58:51

that I rely on people paying for.

58:55

I try to pay for everything

58:57

when I possibly can. But there

59:00

are some things in Australia

59:02

that it is bizarre to me that

59:04

the U.S. thinks Australia doesn't

59:06

matter and we don't need to see it and they don't

59:08

license their content to us. And

59:10

so I have a VPN

59:13

or I'm about to get arrested. I have a

59:15

VPN that I use

59:17

to access U.S. content,

59:19

but only if I have exhausted

59:22

every other avenue

59:24

of trying to pay for something if

59:26

I can. But there are some

59:28

things that I don't know why

59:30

they're

59:32

just not available in Australia. I'm like, you

59:34

idiots, we will pay you for it. We want

59:37

it, but you are not giving me the

59:39

option to pay for it. So I have to go

59:41

and watch it in a different way, which

59:44

I wish I didn't have to. But

59:46

anyway, yes. So VPNs

59:48

are iffy, iffy.

59:52

But you know what? I still think as

59:55

an artist, you would prefer

59:57

people to access your work. Then

1:00:00

not at all. Yeah.

1:00:03

I don't know. It's a larger conversation. But

1:00:07

yes. Mm hmm. Tread. Tread.

1:00:10

Tread. Yes. Which

1:00:13

I'm sure they wanted to call it Killdozer, but there was already

1:00:15

a sci-fi movie from 1974 called

1:00:18

Killdozer. Of course. Which

1:00:20

we need to watch at some

1:00:22

point. It's about a cool dozer that's possessed

1:00:25

by aliens who came to Earth on

1:00:27

a comet and they forced this dozer

1:00:29

to hunt and kill all the members of the construction

1:00:32

crew on the site where it's been stationed.

1:00:35

That's awesome. Yeah. So they couldn't

1:00:37

call it Killdozer. They called it Tread.

1:00:39

The first part of it is

1:00:41

quite lengthy. Imagine going

1:00:44

from Killdozer to Tread.

1:00:46

You could have gone from Killdozer

1:00:49

to... I don't know. The

1:00:51

Killdozer that could. Yeah.

1:00:54

You know what? So like, oh, if

1:00:56

we can't have Killdozer, then

1:00:59

we'll go Tread. You

1:01:01

could have done something as awesome as Killdozer.

1:01:04

Okay. Anyway, okay.

1:01:05

Interesting choice. Yeah. The

1:01:08

first almost half of it is a bit of a snore because it goes into all

1:01:10

of the detail about the local council disputes

1:01:13

and Marv's beef with everybody, which

1:01:15

I've saved you all from. But then

1:01:17

it picks up speed and it

1:01:19

gets into some really cool insightful stuff.

1:01:22

Like it shows you how Marv built the armor

1:01:24

while he was living in what used to

1:01:26

be his muffler shop. He'd

1:01:29

work at night when no one was at

1:01:31

work at the businesses next door and he'd shit

1:01:34

in his bucket and he'd watch the same two

1:01:36

movies over and over again. Every

1:01:39

night Robocop and

1:01:41

A Man Apart, which stars Vin

1:01:43

Diesel getting revenge on

1:01:46

his enemies. Fun fact, just

1:01:48

before Marv

1:01:50

welded himself into the Killdozer,

1:01:52

he shaved off his head so that he looked like

1:01:54

Vin Diesel when he went and got revenge

1:01:57

on his enemies. What

1:01:58

a loser. What a

1:02:00

loser. There's

1:02:03

also a book that Patrick

1:02:05

Brower, the former editor of Sky High

1:02:07

News wrote, and he did call

1:02:09

it Kill Doser. Oh, the one who was in the building

1:02:11

and saw the tank approaching, yeah.

1:02:13

So he goes into a lot

1:02:15

of detail with all sorts of different eyewitness

1:02:18

accounts of the attack. So

1:02:21

get into that. If you're keen to really

1:02:23

dive into the detail of this thing, and like

1:02:25

I said, there's heaps of content out there on YouTube,

1:02:28

loads of articles that have been written. We'll post

1:02:30

some links. But that is just the gist

1:02:32

of Marv Heimayr's Kill Doser,

1:02:35

which he called the

1:02:37

MK tank and

1:02:39

the $7 million matrim

1:02:42

that he threw.

1:02:45

Wow. This

1:02:48

is just

1:02:50

why are men?

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Why? I mean, I know why,

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because society has set up a

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toxic system where toxic masculinity

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raises men to feel like they have to be a certain

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way. And then when things go, oh, OK, I could get you

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know, I could go on and on

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about gender dynamics. I won't. But

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the point is this man reminded

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me very much of

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we

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have had to get a

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little serious here in the last, I mean, it

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happens all the time. But particularly in the last 12 months,

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anyone in Australia could name

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and tell you in detail about the

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men who have murdered their wives and children

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in vicious, abusive

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attacks of anger and narcissism

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and

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abuse. And he

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reminds me exactly of that. And that's why

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I asked you like, you know, does

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he have a wife? Is he an incel? Like, because honestly,

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I feel like if he had been married

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with children, he would have taken

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this anger out on them and

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not on the children.

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town. You know what I mean? It's all the same.

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It's just narcissistic men

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who feel like the world owes them something,

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but the world is now changing where

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straight white men are no longer

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at the top of the pyramid. We are now

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embracing feminism. We're embracing diversity.

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We're embracing a world where there is

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more equality. And the men who

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once didn't have to do anything to

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be at the top are now finding that

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things are changing and they aren't

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alpha dogs anymore. And they

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don't know how to handle it. And

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so they react in this toxic,

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abusive, awful

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way. And it just,

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yeah, I truly do think that if

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he hadn't have done this, he would have done

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it to people close to him. So it's very lucky

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that he was so awful he didn't have anyone close

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to him because he would have done

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it to them.

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What a piece of shit. What

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a piece of shit. Look,

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I mean, everything that you read and watch about

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him is biased one way or

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the other. And

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what I've just presented to you is

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very heavily biased against him because

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yes, I do think he was a piece of shit based

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on everything that I've read and watched

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about him. I think that he was just destructive

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and violent. And I think he was the type of person that

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was totally unwilling to ever see

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anyone else's point of view.

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And he put himself at the center of everything

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and either made himself the victim or made

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himself.