The NWO was an inside job

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language and

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adult discussion. See,

1:41

Kevin, with weight loss comes

1:43

issues that you have to

1:45

address, like what I'm touching

1:47

right now. You're always good

1:49

for giving me some advice

1:51

on my... I've got some kind

1:54

of gimmick. I don't have it

1:56

works or not, but it's like

1:58

a... Cool

2:01

sculpting no I

2:03

think I'm like a

2:05

Like a mouthpiece type

2:07

thing, but it's it's

2:10

almost like a like

2:12

a small round piece

2:15

of this hard Actually

2:18

bite into it and

2:20

stretch it here like

2:23

that cut that

2:25

music The music effect man.

2:27

Because I know he's gonna lower it

2:29

in post so I just yeah, but

2:31

I can't I can't talk over I

2:33

don't want to talk over it. It's

2:36

your sensory processing disorder. The

2:38

it's like a gimmick that

2:40

you bite into it is you

2:42

bite into it tightens all that shit.

2:44

Yeah. Maybe cool sculpting. My wife

2:46

is telling me she wants to

2:48

go. It's supposed to be permanent

2:51

she's telling me. Yeah, right. Only

2:53

three sessions. $800 dollars a pop.

2:55

$2,400, it freezes the fat

2:57

to death in your neck and

3:00

it's like a fucking... It's not

3:02

fat! What is it? Whenever

3:04

it is. It's not fat? It's,

3:06

you don't have fucking fat.

3:08

It's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

3:10

if anything, you would, you

3:12

would need collagen. It's a

3:15

lack of collagen that causes

3:17

that. As you get older, you

3:19

don't produce a collagen, your

3:21

skin gets, you know, like,

3:23

like shit. Yeah,

3:26

and then, you know, the collagen

3:28

creams, they sound like, it doesn't

3:30

penetrate the skin, does it? No. It's

3:32

got to be internal. And then they

3:34

sell that thing, that gimmick now with

3:36

the little spikes on it? They

3:38

sell everything. Exactly. Do you got

3:40

to get, do you make impulse purchases

3:42

off of social media like on

3:45

Instagram and stuff when the ads

3:47

come up? Do you, it's so easy to

3:49

just hit that button, you know? No. No,

3:51

I always, if it's on Instagram,

3:53

I'll market. you know, with a

3:56

little gimmick. Like save it and

3:58

then I'll go back. Like

4:00

at the end of the week,

4:02

I look at all the shit

4:04

that I've saved, and sometimes I'll

4:06

save the same thing like six

4:09

times. And I'll say to

4:11

myself, I'm like, all right, let

4:13

me look at this one more

4:15

time, I'll be like, no. When

4:17

I was living in Buckhead in

4:19

the loft, at the end

4:21

of my street, there was

4:23

a Rochester big and tall,

4:25

and they had like a... Clyde

4:29

Fraser long-ass

4:31

leather coat with a

4:33

fur collar and It

4:36

was like 10,000 bucks

4:38

This is going back

4:41

to 19 what you said

4:43

I don't know maybe

4:46

99 2000 okay and

4:48

I went to my safe

4:50

grabbed the Stack

4:52

with 10, with 10,

4:54

with 10, with my safe

4:57

on my bed, I counted

4:59

out the thousands, you

5:01

know. And I looked at

5:03

all that fucking money and

5:06

I thought about that coat

5:08

and I said, and fuck

5:10

that coat. I'm gonna pimp

5:13

in this, what, one

5:15

fucking time? It's like

5:17

that fucking fur coat

5:19

that, like, dusty hat, you

5:22

know? You're very practical

5:24

that way. I need more of that.

5:26

Just in the last few weeks, Kevin,

5:28

I decided that I needed to start

5:31

collecting fountain pens. You know, as

5:33

a writer, it's a cool thing to

5:35

have fountain pens. And of course, if you

5:37

have the fountain pen, you need the leather.

5:39

Are you like a shafer, like an old

5:41

school? We used to have to have those

5:44

in school in school, the ones with the

5:46

cartridge. Yeah. Yeah. We just have to

5:48

have to have those. So we have those

5:50

for English, I think we had

5:52

those for English, my freshman year

5:54

in college. You're kidding. They made

5:56

you write your college essays with a

5:59

fountain pen. I think we, 77,

6:01

it wouldn't like, you had to

6:03

fucking, you know, I was before

6:06

the IBM fucking ball, I think.

6:08

You have to, do you have

6:10

to do it by candlelight too?

6:13

Preferably in a cabin. Yeah. And

6:15

then of course you have to

6:17

get the leather the leather journal

6:20

made in Vienna custom with my

6:22

initials on it So that has

6:24

to come next that comes I

6:27

also found this thing. I don't

6:29

know if it's be saying these

6:31

company names micro perfumes. So do

6:34

you do you wear a scent?

6:36

Do you wear a cologne cabinet

6:38

that you're fond of? Uh, like

6:41

there's like tonight like I took

6:43

a shower And

6:45

I'll sweat and I don't want to

6:48

smell before, you know, before I go

6:50

to bed. So I'll just spray that

6:52

Chanel on, but I won't put deodor

6:55

in our world plug my pores. So.

6:57

Can I say shit you don't think

6:59

of? Usually, yeah, because I want, I

7:02

don't want to plug my pores before

7:04

I go to bed. Well, this is

7:06

company that any callones or perfumes for

7:09

your wife that... that you hear of,

7:11

see, see, they'll send you for like

7:13

five bucks to samples of these before

7:16

you buy them. And you could try

7:18

and wear them for a couple of

7:20

days, see if you really like. My

7:23

wife is Warren Chanel, five, perfume, fucking

7:25

since I've met her. It's a classic.

7:27

It's a classic. And some people do

7:30

that. They have their sense. Not the

7:32

cologne. You know, it's just like, it's

7:34

so hard to find that perfume now?

7:37

Is it really? Because

7:39

there's how many brick-and-mortar stores are

7:42

there? You know, they go online?

7:44

You know, it's just... You probably

7:46

have some shinnels, but you... There's

7:48

not one... There's obviously not one

7:50

in the... Mall of... Mall of

7:52

the Linnea, right? Yeah, I'm sure

7:54

they have a shinnel, but she's

7:56

called out there before and like,

7:59

they're, you know... That's like the

8:01

only place you can... by the

8:03

area. The Vineland Out, do they

8:05

have a Vineland outlet in the,

8:07

uh, we're not fucking, me and

8:09

my wife are not, we don't

8:11

shop, we're not, we're purchasers. We

8:14

go something, these people that walk

8:16

up and down these streets, like

8:18

in fucking, where is that name

8:20

of that fucking city, winter park

8:22

or whatever, they go have lunch

8:24

and go walk, walk through stores.

8:26

You hit the shops? No. I

8:29

need something, it's just like I

8:31

need, I go in, I buy

8:33

it, I leave. I fucking, last

8:35

year, we go to the DC

8:37

area every Christmas for a few

8:39

days. And we go, in Alexandria,

8:41

there's a nice shopping in Alexandria,

8:43

in the old town section, the

8:46

old cobblestone roads, the buildings are,

8:48

as they were, they have new

8:50

stores in them, but you know,

8:52

you got to keep the structures,

8:54

because it's a historic city. I'm

8:56

in this place, and I'm a

8:58

buyer, I can, you know. I

9:01

get this marble fruit bowl this

9:03

big. Now I'm not considering the

9:05

weight of it or the fact

9:07

that I'll be walking for the

9:09

next three hours. I carry this

9:11

fucking marble fruit, this marble fruit

9:13

bolt up and down. And Nicole's

9:16

just, occasionally, because she's like, do

9:18

you need this? Do we need

9:20

this right now? It's like, look

9:22

at it. This is, you know,

9:24

we're never going to find this

9:26

kind of thing anywhere. So every

9:28

couple of blocks. You're good? So

9:31

I'm like that Kevin, I do

9:33

the impulses. You couldn't have stopped

9:35

and bought a bowling ball bag.

9:37

I don't think even that wouldn't

9:39

fit. I was going to step

9:41

on my back to the bowling

9:43

ball. When T was a little

9:45

guy and you had the, you

9:48

know, that first car gimmick that

9:50

it snaps in it and you

9:52

also can, it comes out, you

9:54

can carry your baby. Yeah, sure.

9:56

At first, that first car seat.

9:58

So. And he went from like

10:00

pounds 12 ounces to like fucking

10:03

16 pounds of like a month's

10:05

beep fuck and we would go

10:07

shopping and I would and I

10:09

would have to switch and I

10:11

was fucking you know I was

10:13

I was fucking jacked mmm yeah

10:15

but bad that just I'd have

10:18

to switch hands and we'd get

10:20

to like fashion square some like

10:22

that in Phoenix and there was

10:24

these big giant long benches that

10:26

you could sit down there were

10:28

concrete And I would just sit

10:30

my ass down right in the

10:32

middle of that. And the thing

10:35

that was great too was, like

10:37

my kid was so, he was

10:39

such a precious little, he was

10:41

such a pretty little boy that,

10:43

you know, like there's nothing, that's

10:45

more of a magnet. And this

10:47

was like the high end, hot,

10:50

all the hot, Scottsdale milps would

10:52

come play with your kid. But.

10:56

Yeah, those carriers were and then

10:58

the way you'd have to crane

11:00

your body to get it in

11:02

the car or out of the

11:05

car. We actually we had we

11:07

had an S-class and we had

11:09

a navigator so we had two

11:11

big vehicles to get him because

11:13

I have to shoot him up

11:15

into the sea. I just want

11:18

to make sure that he had

11:20

as much crash zone as possible.

11:22

Yeah. Yes, no, no, Kevin, I

11:24

don't know, Kevin, I have to

11:26

take publicity photos soon for the

11:29

book that's coming out in, no,

11:31

uh, where is it, September or

11:33

September. The only thing that's permanent,

11:35

dude, is fucking, you gotta sculptle

11:37

that shit. You gotta what? You

11:39

gotta get a facelift. Fuck that.

11:42

I'll figure something out. You were

11:44

right. Take a look at Brad

11:46

Pitt. I'm using his... I'm using

11:48

his... I'm using his face cream

11:50

now, Kevin. You know what I'm

11:52

talking about? Brad Pitt. a vineyard

11:55

in France and he's got a

11:57

face cream, bow domain. It was,

11:59

I've been look eyeing it for

12:01

a while, but it was really

12:03

cost prohibitive. It was wildly expensive.

12:05

How did you go away from

12:08

the tallow to fucking Brad Pitt's

12:10

sperm? Okay, so, doesn't everybody eventually,

12:12

that's Angelina's path. So, it was,

12:14

it's, I still do the tallow

12:16

serum, I just put that on,

12:18

that's my evening gimmick is the

12:21

tallow serum, and in the morning

12:23

I'm doing Brad's thing. I have

12:25

a glow, Kevin, it's amazing. But

12:27

I do still have the tallow

12:29

bomb. I can, maybe I'll do

12:31

a week of Brad, a week

12:34

of the tallow bomb. You have

12:36

to know the science behind the

12:38

tallow. The beef tallow has the

12:40

same, it pulls it, it pulls

12:42

the, as the human fat, yes,

12:45

yes, I know, I know, and

12:47

it was great, I was worth,

12:49

it really. Yeah, I don't just,

12:51

Brad Pitt is selling you a

12:53

fucking product off a, off a,

12:55

Top of the line facelift I'm

12:58

gonna send you the link This

13:00

is this is the teamsters portion

13:02

of the show where we get

13:04

all the truckers can tune in

13:06

and get their their tips Kevin

13:08

when you did what do you

13:11

why do you always say that

13:13

you act like guys that drive

13:15

trucks don't give a fuck with

13:17

their skin looks like probably far

13:19

less than I do I'm sure

13:21

they why why why would you

13:24

think that why? I

13:26

don't know. Truckers out there, please feel

13:28

free, write in and prove me wrong.

13:31

I will read it on air. I

13:33

happily... They don't have time to fuck

13:35

it, right? I own my foibles. When

13:38

you had to do publicity photos, Kevin,

13:40

for WUE, you know, the shit that

13:42

would show up on lunch boxes and

13:44

calendars and magazines and all that stuff.

13:47

Did you get any say in what

13:49

photos they used? I didn't give a

13:51

fuck. It

13:54

was never going to be like,

13:57

hey, you got five minutes to

13:59

come over, take some photos? I

14:01

guess, sure. There's some horrible horrible

14:04

photos out there That's what I'm

14:06

saying, but like what about like

14:08

outfits or whatever you say I

14:11

look better No, my abs look

14:13

better in this singlet. I didn't

14:15

give a fuck. Okay I'm sure

14:17

guys did but you didn't have

14:20

a say anyway, right? They just

14:22

took the photos and it showed

14:24

up on a on a thermus

14:27

and in two weeks or whatever

14:29

Okay, what do you think of

14:31

this? I wanted to be as

14:34

obnoxious as possible. Did I achieve

14:36

it? For Donnie Duch? Who would

14:38

that be? Is that a generic

14:40

name for that pose? That's the

14:43

Donnie Duch pose? I sent it.

14:45

I said put this on. There's

14:47

too many guys out there doing

14:50

the loafers and blazer thing in

14:52

publishing. Why can't you be you?

14:54

Why are you going to be

14:57

something? But that is me. That's

14:59

not you. That is me. No,

15:01

it's not. I just sat here

15:04

and talked about face cream with

15:06

you for five minutes. But that's

15:08

you. I feel sorry for everyone

15:10

in your family. You should. It's

15:13

like, yeah. But yeah, you know,

15:15

it's that is you. You are

15:17

the guy that went to Rome,

15:20

we're on Juliet instead of watching

15:22

the NFL like a championship games.

15:24

Would have loved to have talked

15:27

to you about Kendrick last week,

15:29

but I left during intermission. Yeah,

15:31

right. Intermission. Intermission, listen to me,

15:33

at half time. So do you

15:36

drink rosé wine? No, I don't.

15:38

I'm surprised you don't drink that

15:40

Maraval rosé that Pitt and Jolie,

15:43

that's the vineyard that you're giving

15:45

the face cream for us. I'm

15:47

going to say, I'll rub it

15:50

on my face and see what

15:52

happens. No, I stand and I

15:54

stick my head in the, uh,

15:57

in the, in the smoked old-fashioned,

15:59

uh, it's actually, I think that,

16:01

that Rosie is like, it's like,

16:03

I think it's a 14-2 or

16:06

something like that, like a, a-

16:08

higher alcohol rosane. So drink two

16:10

bottles of that, you're gonna fucking

16:13

look a lot better. I'm gonna

16:15

try it. I've been trying to

16:17

stay California sober Kevin, I haven't,

16:20

I haven't drank and... I went

16:22

over the year mark. Oh, what,

16:24

what, a year? Yeah, February the

16:26

15th was a year. Oh man.

16:29

Congratulations. Well, I just nothing to

16:31

congratulate. Well, sure it is. It's

16:33

working. Fans are consistently commenting that

16:36

your mood is much better. And

16:38

I credit it number one to

16:40

the stem cells number two to

16:43

the beef tallow and number three

16:45

to the eliminating alcohol from the

16:47

diet. Oh, I'll fucking let me

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16:52

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know, we were kicking around

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about the political landscape, right?

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18:22

going on with the Ukraine.

18:24

If anyone doesn't know, Salinsky's

18:27

now being called a dictator.

18:29

And it looks like the

18:31

heel turn is complete. Trump's

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thrown in with Putin. That's

18:36

the whole thing, it's just

18:38

like, we lost, I get

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it, we're 30 days plus

18:42

into this, maybe by the

18:45

time it airs 35 or

18:47

6, whatever it is, but

18:49

it's like, I don't think

18:51

America is, it can't be

18:54

as stupid as it's appearing

18:56

right now. They

18:58

are cutting jobs, like we're

19:01

gonna cut a thousand jobs

19:03

here and we're gonna cut,

19:06

you know, 50 jobs here,

19:08

we're gonna cut meals for

19:11

wheels, we're gonna cut after-school

19:13

food for the underprivileged, we're

19:15

gonna cut this, we're gonna

19:18

cut that, and all these

19:20

cuts will equal one trillion

19:23

dollars. So we can make

19:25

sure that Donald Trump gives

19:28

the wealthy the 4.5 trillion

19:30

dollar tax cut. Just need

19:32

to find 3 trillion more.

19:35

Yeah. Somewhere to offset it.

19:37

I think. Find me 3

19:40

trillion votes. Yeah. Yeah. Let's

19:42

drive me 3 trillion dollars

19:45

in Georgia. I'm just like,

19:47

how about we don't do

19:50

the tax cut? Don't take

19:52

a bunch. Like, let's not

19:54

unsubsidize the farmers. Yeah. That's

19:57

happening and they're pissed and

19:59

they're calling their Republican representatives

20:02

in their states. There was

20:04

one on the news the

20:07

other night on one of

20:09

the interview shows and he

20:12

was trying to baby face

20:14

the situation because they were

20:16

asking him about it and

20:19

he said, well we told

20:21

everybody there's going to be

20:24

some growing pains, we're working

20:26

it all out, they're losing

20:29

their subsidization for their farms.

20:31

Does anybody else besides me?

20:34

And I know not everyone

20:36

travels, but I'm getting ready

20:38

to go to Europe in

20:41

a couple of months. with

20:43

my wife and just to

20:46

take a vacation and I'm

20:48

it's not like I you're

20:51

gonna see me walking the

20:53

streets of these countries and

20:55

go that's not fucking that

20:58

American fucking wrestler so you're

21:00

gonna know that I mean

21:03

are they gonna take the

21:05

time to fucking look up

21:08

my handle? Or am I

21:10

just going to get lumped

21:13

in and get ziggled in

21:15

Rome by the fucking, you

21:17

know. My point in all

21:20

this though, Kevin, is if

21:22

you look at our international

21:25

relations as it applies economically,

21:27

right, take your GDPIG. Let's

21:30

play risk. Right, okay. Let's

21:32

play risk, okay. So let's.

21:35

Let's just round it out

21:37

and say we're 30 trillion.

21:39

US. The US. The US

21:42

is GDP is 30 trillion.

21:44

And so that's 50 trillion.

21:47

And so that's 50 trillion.

21:49

China is, say, 20 trillion.

21:52

17. All right, just round

21:54

it. We'll say 20. And

21:56

this is a kicker. We're

21:59

going to suck Russia's cock.

22:01

I mean, I just gobble

22:04

it. Just, I mean, fucking

22:06

balls deep, fucking, you know,

22:09

we're just on their tip.

22:11

And their GDP is, I

22:14

mean, like, all the pennies

22:16

that we're not gonna use

22:18

in America will fucking put

22:21

them over two trillion. They're

22:23

below Canada. Their GDP is

22:26

below Canada. We gotta go

22:28

back, there we go. There

22:31

we go. Number 11, Russia.

22:33

Two trillion, fucking, Canada, 2.1

22:36

trillion. So, go figure. So

22:38

let's, let's, let's pony up

22:40

with Russia and not with

22:43

the EU. a motivation though.

22:45

It has to be a,

22:48

that we don't know of.

22:50

Trump's motivations, let's all just

22:53

be honest, it's for his

22:55

personal gain. It's not for

22:58

country, ever. He's never been

23:00

a public servant. I think

23:02

that he... So what's the

23:05

personal gain here? We don't

23:07

have the Russian copy of

23:10

how to be an Old

23:12

Gorge. So I mean, you

23:15

know, the art of the,

23:17

the art of the O.

23:19

I don't know. I don't

23:22

get it. You know. Gee

23:24

advance going over there and

23:27

saying that's Europe's problem is

23:29

Europe. Oh boy that's you

23:32

know what a fucking well

23:34

they're having fun our gang

23:37

goes to Washington they're having

23:39

fun and my whole thing

23:41

is I don't give a

23:44

fight I mean there's nothing

23:46

I can do about it

23:51

I didn't vote for

23:53

him. It's not gonna

23:55

affect me. I lived

23:57

my fucking quiet little

23:59

peaceful fucking life. They

24:01

won't close my gym

24:03

down. Yeah, they won't

24:05

seize my fucking Mustang.

24:07

No, but in a

24:09

greater sense, you know

24:11

doubt see stuff on

24:13

the news that makes

24:15

you grow fangs? I'm

24:17

just worried for people

24:19

that live alternative lifestyles.

24:21

Yeah. The book banning

24:23

seems to be coming

24:25

back in full force.

24:27

Yeah. Does

24:29

that include audio books? I

24:31

think so. The audio book

24:33

banning too. Not with this

24:35

administration, that could be a

24:38

loophole. Oh shit, they have

24:40

audio books? Like when they

24:42

got rid of the people

24:44

manning, the nuclear, or safeguarding

24:46

the new people. Or they

24:48

got rid of the people

24:50

that were fucking taking care

24:52

of the bird flu. The

24:54

bird flu. Yeah, they were,

24:56

oops, sorry, we'll put them

24:58

back. Oops, sorry, you gotta

25:00

get those back. 6,000,000 IRS

25:02

workers got fired. How many

25:04

times can you do the

25:06

oops before you look cracking

25:08

completely incompetent? Who's looking? Who's

25:11

looking that doesn't know already?

25:13

Here's one for you. How

25:15

many people out there know

25:17

that if it wasn't for

25:19

NASA giving Elon Musk $1.5

25:21

billion to keep them afloat

25:23

a while back, he would

25:25

have been bankrupt? Yeah. Yeah.

25:27

There was, I watched, I

25:29

was watching one of the

25:31

Wall Street shows today, and,

25:33

um, one of the guys

25:35

said that they had the,

25:37

they put the top five

25:39

richest people. They said that

25:41

there will be some major

25:44

changes in these, these, in

25:46

the next, you know. He

25:48

said, we'll look back at

25:50

this in August and see

25:52

where it's at. That's

25:55

interesting because like electric

25:57

car are done. Why?

25:59

Because as soon as

26:01

you give Russia the

26:03

green light to keep

26:05

what they got and

26:07

put that ceasefire in

26:09

that Russian oil is

26:12

gonna fucking start flowing

26:14

and that'll drop, that'll

26:16

drop, that'll drop, our

26:18

oil prices by 30

26:20

cents a gallon, Mm.

26:22

So it's, it's, it's

26:24

like, so pitiful that

26:26

landman is like spot

26:28

on. You know, you

26:31

watch a, watch a,

26:33

watch a Sheridan show

26:35

and it's like, and

26:37

Billy Bob is like,

26:39

you know, comes down

26:41

from the fucking, from

26:43

the mount, but not

26:45

with two tablets, just

26:47

with just spitting some

26:50

petroleum knowledge. on a

26:52

fucking paramount show. Suck

26:54

a fucking dick man.

26:56

You're also, how many,

26:58

how many World Trade

27:00

Center physics theories will

27:02

you send me tonight?

27:04

I'm just, I'm just,

27:07

just. Okay, I'm just,

27:09

so. Let me ask

27:11

you a question. Forget

27:13

these videos and do

27:15

you really believe That

27:17

something was afoot other

27:19

than what we've been

27:21

told that it was

27:23

a terrorist attack? Organized

27:26

by out here. Okay,

27:28

so now let me

27:30

let me preference it

27:32

by explaining to you

27:34

my 9-11 Okay, okay

27:36

So at this point

27:38

in my life, I'm

27:40

going to bed four

27:42

Maybe five. I got

27:45

blackout. shades in my

27:47

place. So my loft

27:49

is, I mean, it's,

27:51

you can't see your

27:53

hand in front of

27:55

your face. And about

27:57

1140, I hear this

27:59

pounding on my fucking

28:01

door. I'm like, what

28:04

the fuck? So I

28:06

turn the lamp on

28:08

next to my bed

28:10

so I don't walk

28:12

into a wall. Not

28:14

that there was many

28:16

in the loft and

28:18

Walk around the corner

28:21

go the front the

28:23

door and I open

28:25

up like my concier's

28:27

standing there. I said

28:29

what's up? He says

28:31

you need to fucking

28:33

call your wife She's

28:35

been calling and you

28:37

haven't picked up your

28:40

phone. I said oh

28:42

my fucking phone's turned

28:44

off She says pick

28:46

up it. He said

28:48

well fucking call your

28:50

wife So I'm like

28:52

all right, so go

28:54

over I

28:57

turned on my phone,

28:59

I've got like 15

29:01

missed fucking calls and

29:03

like a billion texts

29:05

and everything else and

29:07

I called Tamra, I

29:09

said, what's up, baby?

29:11

She goes, who's attacking

29:13

us? I said, what?

29:15

She said, who's attacking

29:17

us? I said, I,

29:19

I don't understand what

29:21

you mean. She

29:23

says, what are you doing? I

29:26

said, I've been to fucking sleep.

29:28

She says, turn on your TV.

29:30

So I've got a 60-inch Mitsubishi

29:32

TV. And this is back when

29:34

that TV probably weighed 500 pounds.

29:36

It was on wheels. So, and

29:38

I used to wheel it over

29:40

to these two chairs and me

29:42

and me and T would play

29:44

video games. And then at nighttime,

29:47

I'd wheel it closer to the

29:49

end of the bed. So I

29:51

could watch TV from the bed.

29:54

So I wheeled it but the

29:57

TV was against the wall so

29:59

I wheeled. the TV up, I

30:01

get back in bed and I

30:03

sit there and I turn it

30:05

on and they're fucking showing, now

30:08

I'm watching, the first thing I

30:10

see is the fucking, the building

30:12

do that. And I'm, Tamars on

30:14

the phone with me, I said,

30:16

what the fuck? She said, yeah,

30:19

they ran planes into it. I

30:21

said, that wouldn't happen if a

30:23

fucking plane ran into it. I

30:25

said, fucking, if anything, I said,

30:27

it would, like a part of

30:29

it might fall over or something,

30:32

I said, but that, I said,

30:34

that looks like fucking one of

30:36

those Vegas deals, exactly what I

30:38

said to my wife. I said,

30:40

that looks like, fucking, a Vegas

30:43

implosion. I said, you gotta be

30:45

fucking kidding me. So, now I

30:47

get up when I watch it,

30:49

I'm just like, and then as

30:51

time goes on. I

30:54

find, I, they, they, one

30:56

of the things they say

30:58

is they can't find a

31:00

fucking piece of paper bigger

31:03

than a fucking sixteenth of

31:05

an inch, yet they find

31:07

Attas' fucking passport? Is that

31:09

not like the pristine bullet

31:11

lane on Kennedy's fucking gurney

31:14

and parkway? Like, it had

31:16

all the earmarks of the

31:18

same bullshit from the Kennedy

31:20

assassination. And then so

31:23

it happens, nothing I can

31:25

do about it, but then

31:27

I fly up to New

31:29

York to see events. And

31:32

this is maybe, as soon

31:34

as we could fly plus

31:36

maybe four or five days,

31:38

so it might have been

31:41

two weeks afterwards. And I

31:43

told the driver, limo driver,

31:45

I said, hey guys, can

31:47

you take me by ground

31:49

zero? Because I just wanted

31:52

to see it. And I

31:54

was thinking like, well, there's

31:56

no way you can get

31:58

anywhere near this thing because

32:01

those two... two largest buildings

32:03

in the world crumbled side

32:05

by side and I got

32:07

there and there was a

32:10

fucking hole in the ground

32:12

and another hole in the

32:14

ground and there was fucking

32:16

dump trucks and there was

32:18

nothing. Well they were hauling

32:21

all that out throughout the

32:23

weeks. I mean yeah they

32:25

were I know people. Yeah

32:27

I know I know they

32:30

were. Yeah. Fucking just like

32:32

they clear the fucking land

32:34

at the dunes when they

32:36

fucking implode it. Well now

32:39

I'm told that these buildings

32:41

are built in such a

32:43

way because of the height

32:45

that it could never topple

32:47

that it would that the

32:50

beams would that the beams

32:52

would part and it would

32:54

fall from the I'm told

32:56

that they were built that

32:59

way. That was just... And

33:01

I was told that fucking...

33:03

they were designed to take

33:05

an aircraft hit. How do

33:08

you know until it happens?

33:10

And it wasn't the hit

33:12

that did it. It was

33:14

the... It was the... But

33:16

the fuel doesn't burn hot

33:19

enough to melt the fucking

33:21

metal. The only thing that

33:23

burns hot enough to... But

33:27

I think because that floor

33:29

was knocked out and the

33:31

weight of and the fire

33:33

was burning everything else So

33:35

how how is of that

33:38

top is what causes it

33:40

to come down and it

33:42

free falls to drop and

33:44

it began floor by floor

33:46

it began to give How

33:48

does it do that? Well

33:51

because what was at the

33:53

80 what floor did it

33:55

hit the 88th floor or

33:57

whatever I forget, but how

33:59

many floors above that when

34:02

that came down that impact?

34:04

is what sent the reverberation.

34:06

And it dropped, it dropped

34:08

so... So if you took

34:10

the top part and dropped

34:12

it onto itself, onto itself,

34:15

with nothing underneath it, it

34:17

fell with the floors underneath

34:19

it, it took 0.6 seconds

34:21

longer. Then if you just

34:23

take the part that was

34:26

damaged and free falling. I

34:28

would be curious to know,

34:31

see the thing though with

34:33

this, and you talked, you

34:36

brought up Kennedy, the thing

34:38

that makes Kennedy, the Kennedy

34:40

conspiracies, so rich for people

34:43

to pour through and have

34:45

the area. Do you want

34:47

to read Steve's comment here?

34:50

All the supporting, all the

34:52

supporting things as to why

34:55

Kennedy's removal. Would

34:57

have benefited CIA? A

34:59

mob? Whichever theory you

35:02

subscribe to? What to

35:04

what end would the

35:07

blowing up the Twin

35:09

Towers? Have done anything

35:12

and why that? A

35:14

reason to engage Iraq

35:16

again? No, I mean,

35:19

I mean if you

35:21

go on just, you

35:24

only go on greed?

35:27

Is that what you're

35:29

talking about? No, I'm

35:31

talking about the... The

35:33

Port Authority deemed both

35:35

those towers that they

35:37

had to be stripped

35:39

of all the asbestos

35:41

asbestos. So, and they

35:43

basically said that's not

35:45

even a tangible concept

35:47

to take all that

35:49

out. So what is

35:51

it? What do you

35:53

do? Well,

35:57

this is when I haven't heard

35:59

yet. So... You don't know

36:01

that. You don't know that that

36:04

would, so the not. So the

36:06

buildings were, those buildings were

36:08

not, they were going to have

36:11

to strip all that fucking shit

36:13

out of there. So it

36:15

wasn't code. And is this an

36:17

existing theory that the destruction of

36:20

those buildings was to avoid

36:22

having to remove the asbestos? I've

36:24

not heard. No, I'm just saying

36:27

that there's, there's a thousand

36:29

and one things. Come on, a

36:31

guy buys the building and puts

36:33

a fucking 40 billion dollar

36:35

fucking life insurance, a policy on

36:38

them, and they go down like,

36:40

what, 90 days after he gets

36:43

it, gets it clear? But to

36:45

coordinate, these guys that could fly

36:47

the plane. Let me ask you

36:50

a question. When you saw that,

36:52

that day. What were

36:54

the numbers in your head of

36:56

the amount of people that we're

36:59

going to, that we were going

37:01

to lose? 100,000? Maybe not a

37:03

hundred, but I thought 20,000 people,

37:05

I worked across the street at

37:08

the time for Banker's Trust with

37:10

Deutsche. Right, so I mean, you

37:12

know. And yeah, I mean, I

37:14

thought that the numbers, it would

37:16

have been 10, 15, 20, 20,000

37:19

people. If you take the first

37:21

responders out of that. I

37:23

mean, what are you looking at?

37:25

What the actual figure was, you

37:28

mean? Or what? Or if you

37:30

take the first responders out? No,

37:32

if you take the first, no,

37:34

the actual figure, if you take

37:36

the first responders out. Well, what

37:38

was the number three? Three? Oh,

37:41

I think the first responders. So

37:43

they got most of the people

37:45

out of the buildings before the

37:47

collapse? Or they fucking, like a

37:49

lot of people, just... Well,

37:52

just didn't seem to

37:54

make it work that

37:57

day. I wasn't yet.

37:59

I wasn't to work

38:01

yet and nobody told

38:03

me just now. It

38:05

just wasn't there yet.

38:07

I don't know. I'm

38:09

just saying though, if

38:11

you wanted to me,

38:14

if you want to

38:16

do the most damaged

38:18

possible, don't you do

38:20

it like 10? The

38:22

time you mean to

38:24

do it at 10

38:26

o'clock? I

38:28

don't know. I mean, they had

38:31

to be able to get flights

38:33

that they could commandeer close enough

38:36

to the... They had to be

38:38

filled with fuel. Right. They had

38:40

to be going... They had to

38:43

be big enough planes all going

38:45

west coast. It was 8.45 a.m.

38:47

Everybody's commuting in. You know, that

38:50

was a train station underneath too.

38:52

So I mean everyone's commuting in

38:55

I mean you you certainly could

38:57

have done you didn't need to

38:59

do it at 10 you could

39:02

I mean a 45 in Manhattan

39:04

people are working. I just can't

39:06

believe that I just it's it's

39:09

just very hard for it's hard

39:11

for me to believe that we

39:13

can't do anything we can't get

39:16

back to the moon it's like

39:18

like I have a really hard

39:21

time believing we fucking landed on

39:23

the moon Yes,

39:28

well you're not alone with

39:30

less technology than we have

39:32

on the smartphone right now

39:34

So again to what end

39:36

the bragging rights US is

39:39

on the moon. What was

39:41

the what was the what

39:43

was the win? Yeah? Beat

39:45

the Russians Not into space

39:48

but onto the moon. Why

39:50

did the moon? Have

39:52

it look at our GDP compared

39:55

to theirs today exactly give a

39:57

shit that they sent the monkey

39:59

into space it's all And as

40:02

I say, everything that we, like

40:04

Velcro and all those things were,

40:06

those are all because of the

40:09

aliens. E. Maven. Yeah. So we

40:11

had a lot of feedback from

40:13

last week's episode, Kevin. Bronx PC

40:16

Tech said, Raw looks better now

40:18

because it's on the internet, which

40:20

is capable of streaming true 1080P.

40:23

Cableboxes still use 1080I. It's not

40:25

as clear. So being off cable,

40:28

raw looks better. And he would

40:30

know, because he's Bronx PC tech,

40:32

so I'm guessing that. Sweet. I

40:35

mean, I optically, and it definitely

40:37

fucking shows up for me. And

40:39

it is available in 4K, also.

40:42

That's if you're television, like they

40:44

all do now, but... Dominic Derubis.

40:46

I liked Kendrick more five to

40:49

10 years ago than I do

40:51

now. I'm still sorely disappointed that

40:53

halftime show wasn't Lil Wayne. and

40:56

Hot Boys Union. It's Nola for

40:58

Christ's sake. When I saw Little

41:01

Wayne at something not too long

41:03

ago, I was just like, it's

41:05

really, it's, he's dated. It was

41:08

the Saturday Night Live thing, I

41:10

still just saw him on, right?

41:12

That's what he was, I just,

41:15

I felt dated. What about the

41:17

show? Did you watch the whole,

41:19

uh... Yeah, I watched it. They

41:22

did a meet they did at

41:24

the concert on Friday night and

41:26

I watched that I watched six

41:29

hours of television This is this

41:31

is an accomplishment I watched that

41:34

and then I watched the The

41:36

sketches the the Sunday show which

41:38

I thought was very good Signing

41:41

out of life runs very hot

41:43

and cold with me most times,

41:45

but you watch the three the

41:48

four hour show Yeah, they did

41:50

they went over three hours, right?

41:52

I think it was like three

41:55

45 But yeah, I thought they

41:57

did well with it I thought

41:59

they didn't play it safe. I

42:02

didn't think Paul Simon sounded very

42:04

good it like oh boy no

42:07

no no and you're being kind

42:09

they're legends and I both times

42:11

I turn it to my wife

42:14

I said why why do it

42:16

you've you've you've been to the

42:18

mountaintop why are you doing this

42:21

I guess they want to be

42:23

a part of history and I

42:25

guess they have to sing what

42:28

they sang in previous years they

42:30

couldn't have chosen the easier song

42:32

yeah it was a shame to

42:35

have them to see them like

42:37

that That was a cringe. So

42:40

you didn't watch the concert, so

42:42

they did, they brought Nirvana with

42:44

Post Malone on vocals out to

42:47

do, I guess they did, did

42:49

they do something else like Teen

42:51

Spirit? They bought Nirvana, which would

42:54

be Foo Fighters. Basically, yeah. Yeah,

42:56

Dave and what's his name? And

42:58

but they were billed as they

43:01

were billed as post nirvana Which

43:03

I post nirvana. Yeah, I thought

43:05

that was pretty slow. I'll get

43:08

you get a t-shirt I'm glad

43:10

I didn't watch it just on

43:13

that alone. I'm glad I'm glad

43:15

I'm glad I'm glad I didn't

43:17

watch it. I'm glad I'm glad

43:20

I didn't watch it It was

43:22

good. It was a good set.

43:24

Free with the rotors. Free. Really?

43:27

Free. Okay, I also need some

43:29

oil. Would you like an oil

43:31

filter with that? Yeah, how much

43:34

is that? Free with five quarts

43:36

of oil. Free? Really? Really? Free.

43:38

It's part of the A to

43:41

Z savings event. You might as

43:43

well call it A to free.

43:46

At Auto Zone. Restrictions apply. Delbert

43:48

Prince. Hello, Kevin and Sean. I

43:50

love the topics on the podcast

43:53

and it continues to educate me.

43:55

All right, Delbert, happy to help.

43:57

The flip side of that is

44:00

Colin Watt, who's... said, listening to

44:02

you talk about the halftime show

44:04

was bad. I'm a fan of

44:07

yours, Kevin, not that you care

44:09

or need to, but you were

44:11

condescending about how people did not

44:14

understand the messaging. Well, yeah, well

44:16

I have to say about that.

44:19

Does it involve two words? I

44:21

was, I actually, I think I

44:23

kind of prompted that by saying,

44:26

watching this, talking to you about,

44:28

hearing it, how much is lost

44:30

on people who just want the

44:33

spectacle? There's some funny memes you

44:35

might have seen, Kevin, on, on

44:37

Instagram and stuff of like white

44:40

families, like somebody would pan the

44:42

phone around the room during half-time,

44:44

but it's like the aunts and

44:47

uncles like this. I saw more,

44:49

more... memes with this, everybody just,

44:52

instead of the track of him

44:54

singing, it was just the n-word

44:56

over and over again. I saw

44:59

more of that than anything else.

45:01

Oh, people who caught that, yeah,

45:03

I did see that, some of

45:06

those, I just said, yeah. Yeah.

45:08

I just said, yeah. Yeah. I

45:10

guess it's, you know. I guess

45:13

it might be condescending, you know,

45:15

because I probably pissed him off,

45:17

because he didn't watch much of

45:20

it anyway, because he's just too

45:22

busy burning. I saw a lot

45:25

of coverage of Kendrick's jeans, too.

45:27

Did you see that a lot

45:29

of people were talking that the

45:32

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45:34

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45:36

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48:05

Thank you for sharing your intimate

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ortho experiences. You helped me tremendously

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48:21

for putting your wellness journeys out

48:24

there. I actually trained legs yesterday.

48:28

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48:30

press is only like three

48:32

45s on each side. It's

48:34

like a pittance. Okay, but

48:36

inspiring nonetheless for those that

48:38

aren't. I mean, yeah, considering

48:40

it happens. For me, it's

48:42

like, fuck, it's, I feel

48:44

like I'm... Twisted Radio. I'm

48:47

sure Sean doesn't really care,

48:49

but don't feel bad about

48:51

falling out of touch. All

48:53

of us fall behind eventually

48:55

and it's only a matter

48:57

of time. Life will bury

48:59

us before we go six

49:01

feet deep. Our mindsets will

49:04

build a wall up and

49:06

you will never leave. Yeah?

49:08

I mean, I feel... If

49:10

you feel that way? My

49:12

mind becomes more insular. I

49:14

feel like, you know when

49:16

I hear it, Kevin, when

49:18

I can't relate to current

49:20

media. Music and

49:23

I hate that I hear myself

49:25

say those things, but and I

49:27

do it with wrestling every week

49:29

You know I was I guess

49:31

called out last week for being

49:33

too critical of today's product and

49:36

trying to live in the past

49:38

and you know, maybe maybe it's

49:40

true I said I'm out of

49:42

touch I've aged out When we

49:44

talk about the eat thing I

49:46

wasn't on the eat train. Well,

49:49

I mean I think that you

49:51

know you have to look at

49:53

It's 65 years old. So I

49:55

started, my life started with a

49:57

really small black and white television.

50:00

a rotary phone that you had

50:02

to pay extra to have a

50:04

private line. You know, air travel

50:07

was something you didn't do. And

50:09

so then we, you know, we

50:11

jump forward and, you know, we

50:13

get, we get, Atari. Pong, ooh.

50:15

You know, you know. I mean

50:17

you just look at like you

50:20

look at everything you've went through

50:22

in your life and then all

50:24

of a sudden you know it's

50:26

I remember one of my buddies

50:28

who's always been you know way

50:30

ahead of the curve always kind

50:33

of a computer geek guy and

50:35

an early adopter Kevin is what

50:37

they're called what's that an early

50:39

adopter oh this is a guy

50:41

that before it was even a

50:44

thought pattern in general was saying,

50:46

you know, someday people will buy

50:48

houses on the internet. I'm like,

50:50

you're gonna buy a fucking half

50:52

a million dollar house and not

50:54

fucking physically walk through it. He

50:57

says, yeah, people will do it.

50:59

And I'm thinking myself like, get

51:01

the fuck out of here and

51:03

people do it. So what did

51:05

he say? Yeah, you were going

51:07

to tell the story, though. Was

51:10

that it? You know, and he

51:12

was, and I was just, and

51:14

at that point, I don't think

51:16

I didn't send an email yet.

51:18

You know? I never understood, like,

51:20

when text messages started, I'd be

51:23

like, who the fuck is... If

51:25

I don't want to pick up

51:27

a, if I don't want to

51:29

pick up the phone and talk,

51:31

why would I want to text

51:34

you? And then later on you

51:36

realize, oh, that's the fucking why

51:38

you text them, because you don't

51:40

want to talk to talk to

51:42

one funny. I was so down

51:44

with that too. I was like,

51:47

this is, this happened in the

51:49

reverse order. First we were supposed

51:51

to be typing on the little

51:53

typewriter. in our hand and then

51:55

30 years after that they said

51:57

you know what you can pick

52:00

it up and hear the person

52:02

right this was backwards the text

52:04

that came after film but it's

52:06

exactly that it's our it's our

52:08

antisocial nature our desire to be

52:10

insular and not have to talk

52:13

to whoever it is and to

52:15

just get the simple answer because

52:17

you can't just call somebody you

52:19

haven't talked to in two weeks

52:21

and just say What was the

52:24

name of that song you told

52:26

me the other day? I'm here

52:28

talking to my friend. And you're

52:30

not getting off the phone in

52:32

three seconds. There's going to have

52:34

to be some preamble. There's going

52:37

to have to be something everything.

52:39

Were you doing next week? No,

52:41

I'm here with my friend. I

52:43

forgot what smells like Teen Spirit

52:45

was. I just needed that. And

52:47

that was the introduction. A pandemic

52:50

hit. Because... And I mean I

52:52

thought there's a post that I

52:54

put on Instagram of Clint Eastwood

52:56

sitting on the porch in Grand

52:58

Turino and I said you know

53:00

you're fucking you're out you know

53:03

you're I don't remember what it

53:05

was some of the fact that

53:07

when your life doesn't change during

53:09

the pandemic and I really didn't

53:11

I mean I got a key

53:14

to the gym from the owner

53:16

and I went in the back

53:18

there and we you know we

53:20

put it up posters on the

53:22

wall, on the windows, and that

53:24

people would pound on the front

53:27

door because, you know, look through

53:29

and see a light on there,

53:31

think, oh, I can get a

53:33

workout. And I'd be like, you

53:35

ain't got a key motherfucker. You

53:37

ain't getting in here. So you

53:40

had the gym to yourself, basically.

53:42

Yeah. Yeah. And that's your life

53:44

anyway, right? The house, the gym,

53:46

maybe a restaurant? You

53:50

happy cooking? Yeah. Okay.

53:52

I mean, I really,

53:54

I don't cook to,

53:56

I don't eat to.

53:58

For taste, I eat

54:00

for fucking nutritional value.

54:02

That's true. Yeah, I'll

54:05

let me cartons, egg

54:07

whites, chicken breast, ground

54:09

beef. Grass-fed ground beef.

54:11

But in that experience,

54:13

you said you knew

54:15

we were screwed. Yeah,

54:18

because I... Maybe it

54:20

wasn't like... I was

54:22

sitting there going, oh

54:24

my God, how much

54:26

longer... Tamar,

54:29

T and I just kind of

54:31

just did everything. He played his

54:33

video games and played his music.

54:35

Tamar and I sat around, hung

54:37

out. The only problem was, was

54:39

fucking, you know, everybody drank because

54:42

that was the... He told me

54:44

about the workout you got from

54:46

carrying the garbage out. Carrying the

54:48

recycling out twice a week. I

54:50

used to take the recycle out

54:52

and it looked like it was

54:54

the fucking sigma new house. I

54:57

was circuit-fucking 78 on campus.

54:59

Jesus. We used to have

55:02

like, kind of like a,

55:04

you know, like a wine

55:06

storage in the house and

55:08

we slowly, like, you know,

55:10

hammered through that. Wasn't it

55:12

funny of all the things?

55:14

Of all the things, Matt,

55:17

like, the liquor stores were

55:19

like one of the first

55:21

things, like, you know, they

55:23

were closed for a day

55:25

and a half. And then

55:27

the liquor stores are open.

55:29

All the essentials got opened

55:31

first. Yeah, hospitals, clinics, liquor

55:34

stores. There are a few

55:36

industries that always do well

55:38

during crises. Well, the pandemic

55:40

was a very unique situation.

55:42

I think liquor stores are

55:44

on there. Also, strangely, not

55:46

for the pandemic, but for

55:49

crises like financial. difficulties. Casinos,

55:51

I was always... Interesting, in

55:53

bad economies, casinos did well.

55:55

You know what the other

55:57

one is? Strip clubs. Bad

55:59

economy man, fucking strip clubs

56:01

always cook. Right, interesting. We'll

56:03

drill down into that. Orion

56:06

Pax, one, two, three, said,

56:08

had to look it up

56:10

because you guys mentioned it.

56:12

Lawrence of Arabia was shot

56:14

on 70mm film. So even

56:16

better than this division. But

56:18

yeah, gorgeous movie and good

56:21

pick. I wish more modern

56:23

films were shot on that

56:25

format. Another one shot on

56:27

70mm, which would be my

56:29

pick of one of my

56:31

all-time favorites, 2001 A Space

56:33

Odyssey, have. Either have you

56:36

seen it and your thoughts?

56:38

Of course I saw 2001.

56:40

I'm a Kubrick fan. I

56:42

actually answered them. Oh, did

56:44

you write them? Yeah. I

56:46

told them I said we're

56:48

both Kubrick fans. Yeah. Why

56:50

would we not watch 2001

56:53

when we watched the actual

56:55

moon landing that he shot?

56:59

Have you ever seen the

57:01

conspiracy of like it's a

57:03

Kubrick's dying confession that he

57:05

shot the the moon landings?

57:07

Come on. Where's this now?

57:09

Did that pop up in

57:11

your phone right after? No,

57:14

you tube it. After the

57:16

9-11 one? Steve. I saw

57:18

the one where he said

57:20

he drove the plane into

57:22

the South Tower. Alright Steve's

57:24

trying to find it feverishly

57:26

right now. The uh... He's

57:28

got a beard, he's laying

57:30

him, bet he looks like

57:32

Santa Claus. Okay, so did

57:34

this happen? No, Stanley Kubrick

57:36

did not admit to filming...

57:38

Oh boy. Filming the moon

57:40

landing? This is a persistent

57:42

conspiracy theory that has been

57:44

debunked, the claim that Kuber

57:46

committed to faking the moon

57:48

landing footage is based on

57:50

a video featuring an actor

57:52

in person in Kubertson. So

57:54

we actually think that that's

57:56

the... that they're going to

57:58

say. So look up, was

58:00

Kennedy killed by a lone

58:02

shooter? You hear you say?

58:04

So is this the one

58:06

you're talking about? This is

58:08

the, I don't know. Is

58:10

that it? What is that?

58:12

What is that? So was

58:14

it difficult? I mean, committing

58:16

the greatest fraud? What you

58:18

want to call it? I'm

58:20

not saying it to, okay.

58:22

I know. So I'm not

58:24

making more judgment, but making

58:26

this huge ambitious technical. So

58:28

landing was it part of

58:30

the 2001 was it very

58:32

difficult? I mean what was

58:34

experience like? Artistically practically emotionally.

58:36

What was it like? It

58:38

was harder than 2001. So

58:40

2001 was harder than faking

58:42

the moon landing. It actually

58:44

was. Because you learned things

58:46

on 2001 and yes. I

58:48

mean it's 2001 was very

58:50

ambitious. So this was never

58:52

made. So I don't know

58:55

what like we're watching. It's

58:59

an actor is what the the

59:01

thing said that this is not

59:03

him. It's it's it's it was

59:05

an actor portraying him Yeah, this

59:08

I love the there's all these

59:10

different outtakes and shit where the

59:12

fucking lighting grid falls on one

59:14

of the astronauts. I guess we

59:16

don't want to run retake this

59:19

right? You ever seen any of

59:21

that shit? No I

59:23

saw the one at the one

59:26

exhibition into space that that we

59:28

we played the wasn't the moon

59:30

landing I figured which which it

59:33

was but where you can kind

59:35

of see the strings hanging but

59:38

I was told happens when you

59:40

get older what's that this one

59:42

happens when you get older so

59:45

you everything that you believed in

59:47

growing up that the that you

59:49

landed on the moon Santa Claus,

59:52

I never believe that Kennedy got

59:54

was that I never believe that

59:56

I warrant commission bullshit It just

1:00:00

It just didn't fit. Then

1:00:02

you must have quit. Yeah,

1:00:04

but then the 9-11 thing,

1:00:06

it was just like when

1:00:08

it first went down, I

1:00:10

was just like, and my

1:00:12

whole thing is, it doesn't

1:00:14

really fucking matter what the

1:00:16

cause was? Because fucking Americans

1:00:18

died and first responders died.

1:00:21

Like that's, you know. It's

1:00:23

still, it's still, like, I

1:00:25

don't take anything away from,

1:00:27

because nobody that was there

1:00:29

that day was in on

1:00:31

anything. They were just trying

1:00:33

to fucking do their jobs

1:00:35

and save lives. And I'll

1:00:37

guarantee them, man, like, you

1:00:39

watch clips and you watch

1:00:41

people jumping out of windows.

1:00:44

I don't care if I

1:00:46

can, it was, it was,

1:00:48

Thermite or not, that motherfucker

1:00:50

looked down from 80, 90

1:00:52

stories and said, fuck this,

1:00:54

I'm not burning. and threw

1:00:56

himself out of a window

1:00:58

or herself out of a

1:01:00

window. It's just It's a

1:01:02

fucking. It's an American tragedy.

1:01:04

I'm not taking anything. No,

1:01:07

of course not. No, we're

1:01:09

just talking about it. My

1:01:11

whole thing is that it's

1:01:13

just if it is Thermite,

1:01:15

if it is some kind

1:01:17

of fucking bullshit thing that

1:01:19

somebody did that was an

1:01:21

inside job, it's even more

1:01:23

horrific. You know? To do

1:01:25

anything to fucking to take

1:01:27

one person's fucking life is

1:01:29

just But I have to

1:01:32

get older as you get

1:01:34

older than all the sudden

1:01:36

it's like You When you're

1:01:38

younger you believe in that

1:01:40

there's a higher power and

1:01:42

then you go through life

1:01:44

you're like okay, there's too

1:01:46

much shit going on in

1:01:48

this fucking world for there'd

1:01:50

be a higher power and

1:01:52

as you get older you're

1:01:55

like I don't know man

1:01:57

I think there's a higher

1:01:59

powers. So. I

1:02:01

don't know. I hadn't been down there

1:02:03

as of two years ago when I

1:02:05

went since. And I just never

1:02:07

had, I drove past it a

1:02:10

million times going to gigs and

1:02:12

stuff in the city, but I

1:02:14

never walked on the ground that

1:02:16

I walked on every day. And

1:02:18

it was hard. I didn't think

1:02:20

it was going to be. Like my

1:02:22

wife was always like, I don't

1:02:24

know if I want to go back

1:02:27

and because we worked together at the

1:02:29

time. He's like, I don't know

1:02:32

if I want to go

1:02:34

back. And it was all

1:02:36

these years. And my

1:02:38

kids were like, you know,

1:02:40

there's a whole museum.

1:02:42

Can we? And we were

1:02:45

like, all right. And I

1:02:47

was kind of no selling

1:02:49

that it was going

1:02:51

to have an effect. But

1:02:53

it really did. I

1:02:56

was really surprised. Thirteen?

1:02:58

So. This is when they had

1:03:01

that, they still had the

1:03:03

girder that was the cross.

1:03:05

They kind of had that

1:03:07

makeshift museum. Yeah. That

1:03:09

was kind of, and I

1:03:11

remember we got there late and

1:03:13

we were walking, and as we

1:03:16

turned and went like Wall

1:03:18

Street got out, and they

1:03:20

were all going to that

1:03:22

fucking train, and we were

1:03:25

fucking swimming upstream on them.

1:03:28

Oh. So that would have been 13.

1:03:30

He was 20. He was 20.

1:03:32

So that was like. He was

1:03:35

five when I went down. Yeah.

1:03:37

Okay. So, so 20, around 20

1:03:39

or 9, 2010. Yeah. How's

1:03:41

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1:03:57

Saturday Night Live Davidson? What's his name? Pete,

1:03:59

right? Pete, yeah. Pete's dad was

1:04:01

killed in 9-11. And my son

1:04:03

was a huge mark for Davison.

1:04:06

So he knew that his dad

1:04:08

had passed. And when they

1:04:10

went, Cameron then went

1:04:12

back. And I guess T

1:04:14

was probably, Trump was in

1:04:17

office because Trump, he

1:04:19

voted for Trump his

1:04:21

first time. So he was

1:04:23

18. It's probably 19 years

1:04:25

old when they went, maybe

1:04:27

20. And he was in front of the Trump Tower,

1:04:29

salute in the tower, just to fuck with his dad.

1:04:31

And he said that, you know, they went to the, where the

1:04:33

plaques are. And he looked at Tammer, he said, you

1:04:35

know, Pete Davis, his dad is one of these plaques.

1:04:37

And they walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he

1:04:39

walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he

1:04:41

walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he walked,

1:04:44

he walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he

1:04:46

walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he walked, he

1:04:48

walked, he walked, he walked, he, he walked, he, he walked,

1:04:50

he walked, he, he walked, he, he walked, he, he, he walked,

1:04:52

he walked, he, he walked, he walked, he, he, he walked, he,

1:04:54

he, he, he, he, he walked, he, he walked, he, he, he,

1:04:56

he And Tamis said, like, he

1:04:59

just kind of walked in front

1:05:01

of everybody. I just kind of

1:05:03

walked to where the, they kind of

1:05:05

like, you know, they were in front

1:05:07

of him and you could walk to

1:05:09

any place. You know, along here, he

1:05:11

just kind of walked right to a

1:05:13

place and looked like to his left

1:05:16

and he goes, it's right here. He

1:05:18

found it right away. Right in front

1:05:20

of him. Like, fucking, like, walked,

1:05:22

you know. Yeah. And my wife was

1:05:24

just like, whoa. We're not going

1:05:27

to find it. I was

1:05:29

just like, no we will.

1:05:31

It'll be the second

1:05:34

one I look at. Yeah,

1:05:36

that's a heavy thing.

1:05:38

The whole museum downstairs.

1:05:41

I remember when I

1:05:43

shot John Wick and

1:05:45

they were, you know, the

1:05:47

Freedom Tower was, you

1:05:49

know, and I just, and

1:05:51

I could see it from

1:05:54

my room. Because you

1:05:56

know for so many years I

1:05:58

went to New York the towers

1:06:00

and you just took them for

1:06:02

granted 100% you know just the

1:06:05

whole skyline like you know it's

1:06:07

yeah it's in so many of

1:06:09

my like childhood pictures and stuff

1:06:11

and it's people come that's like

1:06:13

me right now with Detroit in

1:06:16

the Renaissance Center you know there

1:06:18

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1:06:20

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1:06:22

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1:06:24

the like that was that made

1:06:27

the skyline of Detroit what it

1:06:29

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1:06:31

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1:06:33

going to leave three of the

1:06:35

five. They're going to leave the

1:06:38

main tower and two front ones.

1:06:40

And then do some development on

1:06:42

the river front back there. So.

1:06:44

What are they going to pose?

1:06:46

Can it be like residences or?

1:06:48

I don't know what they're, I

1:06:51

don't know what they, I know

1:06:53

that the middle one's a western

1:06:55

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she tested negative for the flu

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1:10:47

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1:10:50

was home over Christmas break. I

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Kevin, earlier in the year, or

1:12:55

maybe last year, we were talking

1:12:57

about... Yes, by chance with our

1:12:59

spouses and watched it. And today,

1:13:02

you kind of never expecting me

1:13:04

to respond, because I watch nothing

1:13:06

these days, I just don't have

1:13:09

the time, and you go, I

1:13:11

saw this thing, the kings of

1:13:13

Tupolo, I said, watched it two

1:13:16

nights ago. Just on a whim

1:13:18

I was clicking around every fucking

1:13:20

subscription I have. Every menu, I

1:13:23

landed on that, I watched the

1:13:25

trailer and I was just like,

1:13:27

this seems crazy. Nicole was tired

1:13:30

looking at the menu, she's like,

1:13:32

fine, put it on, you know.

1:13:34

That's where we get, we do

1:13:37

the same, we get to the

1:13:39

point of just fucking put something

1:13:41

on. Anything, it can't be worse

1:13:44

than the menu. And so, so

1:13:46

if anyone doesn't know, Kings of

1:13:48

Tupolo references, But also a gentleman

1:13:51

Kevin, who had his name here

1:13:53

somewhere, a gentleman that was actually

1:13:55

arrested but was framed for the

1:13:58

attempted poisoning of three people, Obama.

1:14:00

a judge and the representative. Yeah,

1:14:03

the democratic representative and I think

1:14:05

Hart, Hartnett was his name. Yeah.

1:14:07

So, and he ended up being

1:14:10

framed by somebody for him. It

1:14:12

was rice. Right. Correct. But that's,

1:14:14

they shouldn't have even put those

1:14:17

details in the trailer. Everything else

1:14:19

about this guy and this story

1:14:21

is what makes it fascinating. He's

1:14:24

an Elvis impersonator first of all

1:14:26

and resemble resemble the other guy

1:14:28

is the other guy is a

1:14:31

Wayne Newton and the guy that

1:14:33

framed him is a Wayne Newton

1:14:35

impersonator it I know it sounds

1:14:38

like a word and then the

1:14:40

documentary the Elvis impersonator is also

1:14:42

an Elvis impersonator they had a

1:14:45

tandem that they used because yeah

1:14:47

well that was because Elvis when

1:14:49

Elvis was born he had a

1:14:52

twin that died at birth that

1:14:54

died at birth correct so they

1:14:56

they always that was the whole

1:14:59

thing of what if his twin

1:15:01

brother would have lived and that's

1:15:03

what they went on these these

1:15:06

brothers yeah it's a fucking but

1:15:08

it's so bizarre and he stumbled

1:15:10

upon what he thought was a

1:15:13

body harvesting operation in the morgue

1:15:15

of a local hospital that he

1:15:17

was working as a janitor and

1:15:21

Yeah, I know it seems like

1:15:23

I'm gonna say you can't even

1:15:26

predict what I'm gonna say next

1:15:28

right it keeps you on it's

1:15:30

like a raw episode in 1998

1:15:33

You don't know what's coming next

1:15:35

I Was fascinated by it Kevin.

1:15:37

Was it three episodes? I think

1:15:40

yeah Yeah, it's a quick watch

1:15:42

to like 240 total Yeah, okay.

1:15:44

I'm watching right now. I started

1:15:47

watching it last night with maybe

1:15:49

I don't know it's something for

1:15:51

the goal, but it's Brock and

1:15:54

Michelle Obama did a they're the

1:15:56

producers and that's the behind the

1:15:58

scenes look at the

1:16:02

last Olympics in Paris, the basketball.

1:16:04

They basically cover France, Canada, the

1:16:06

U.S. team of course, and I

1:16:09

think Serbia, that's a major four

1:16:11

teams that they follow. What was

1:16:13

unique about their experiences that made

1:16:16

it documentary worthy? They have such

1:16:18

hands-on, especially with the U.S. team,

1:16:21

but with all the guys. Kevin

1:16:23

Durant, like I've never really, he's

1:16:25

just not a guy that does

1:16:28

interviews and Durant, but they really,

1:16:30

because he's the all-time leading score

1:16:32

in Olympic basketball history. He's got

1:16:35

four medals in men's basketball. He's

1:16:37

like, and nobody, you know, I

1:16:39

don't think, I mean, he just

1:16:42

scored his 30,000th point. not too

1:16:44

long ago. I mean, the guy's

1:16:46

phenomenal, he's been playing for forever.

1:16:49

But, um, they do an interview

1:16:51

with him, and he gets, and

1:16:54

I hate when people do this,

1:16:56

but they just, you know, they

1:16:58

just keep with it. Because he

1:17:01

came out of poverty and his

1:17:03

mom just, you know, raised him,

1:17:05

but she was a, you know,

1:17:08

a team that had the kids,

1:17:10

and so he, um... Basketball has

1:17:12

always been, it was his way

1:17:15

out, and it's always been his

1:17:17

provider and he just, he just,

1:17:20

he's one of those fucking dudes

1:17:22

man, he just loves to play

1:17:24

ball. And he gets all choked

1:17:27

up when he's going into it

1:17:29

about different things. And I just

1:17:31

hate that when they, they just,

1:17:34

of all the cuts, like why

1:17:36

do you have to put that

1:17:38

cut? Like why do you always

1:17:41

think every... Every time you watch

1:17:43

any documentary, it's always when the

1:17:46

guy breaks up that you know

1:17:48

that's going to make it. Like

1:17:50

when they did the thing on

1:17:53

Scott... Like I spoke for fucking

1:17:55

three hours. I was on the

1:17:57

fucking documentary for a minute and

1:18:00

a half and it was me,

1:18:02

fucking getting teary-eyed. Because that's a

1:18:04

compelling moment. Yeah, but to me

1:18:07

it's so fucking carny. What is

1:18:09

an entertainment? I mean... I don't

1:18:12

know, but if you like to

1:18:14

watch people that fucking cry, I

1:18:16

guess. I mean, I don't think

1:18:19

they enjoyed your misery. I think

1:18:21

that that. Well, I think so.

1:18:23

If you like that, why don't

1:18:26

you like that? Why don't you

1:18:28

fucking, you know, just, instead of

1:18:30

being a wedding crash or be

1:18:33

a funeral crash? Because hang out

1:18:35

by the funeral, but hang out

1:18:38

by the cast and go, man,

1:18:40

you know, horrible job with him.

1:18:42

Because it's the most true representation

1:18:45

of your feelings. People

1:18:47

could talk about Scott to the

1:18:50

balloon in the face, but when

1:18:52

you move to where you can

1:18:54

barely speak Where you're holding it

1:18:57

back that there's that human moment

1:18:59

They wanted to show that that

1:19:01

friendship and how you were affected

1:19:04

That's the one thing I did

1:19:06

about you when I did that

1:19:09

first show after T-pass I was

1:19:11

determined not to fucking Like break

1:19:13

like I was gonna break down

1:19:16

I think I did a pretty

1:19:18

good job I know when it

1:19:20

was over, I was fucking a

1:19:23

mess. I've not watched it since

1:19:25

because it didn't bother me. But

1:19:28

many, many, many people have complimented

1:19:30

how we handled that. And you

1:19:32

know, we did not talk about

1:19:35

how we were going to or

1:19:37

what we were going to. We

1:19:40

very much just walked in and

1:19:42

said. You know, what's going to

1:19:44

happen is going to happen. And,

1:19:47

um... That's what we've said. I

1:19:49

remember, I remember talking to you

1:19:51

and saying, this could be five

1:19:54

minutes long. Right, exactly. And I

1:19:56

said, well, then that's fine, because

1:19:59

that's what it is then, because

1:20:01

it's going to be real. You

1:20:03

were the one that said... that

1:20:06

I, when I talk to people

1:20:08

about this, they always ask, a

1:20:10

lot of people that don't know

1:20:13

the timeline that weren't down with

1:20:15

us at the time, they'll say,

1:20:18

well, you know, how many weeks

1:20:20

was he off or whatever, I

1:20:22

said, that's, that's the story of

1:20:25

this show, is that. Yeah, he

1:20:27

passed Wednesday and said, I don't

1:20:30

have a link. I said, because

1:20:32

you're not recording Kevin, don't worry

1:20:34

about it. And you said, I

1:20:37

have to tell the world that

1:20:39

this happened. I don't want someone

1:20:41

else telling the story. And I

1:20:44

said, OK, we'll set it up.

1:20:46

We'll do it. But that's at

1:20:49

the tone when it was like,

1:20:51

we're going to do this. The

1:20:53

thing that will always piss me

1:20:56

off was, you know, these people

1:20:58

will say stuff like. Everybody knows

1:21:01

you don't let your kid fucking

1:21:03

go cold turkey, you dumb fuck.

1:21:05

And it's just like, my son

1:21:08

and I had, we made an

1:21:10

agreement that we were gonna, you

1:21:12

know, we were gonna fucking, we

1:21:15

were not gonna drink. And he

1:21:17

was, he talked to his girlfriend

1:21:20

and he was like, he was

1:21:22

like, me and Pops are gonna

1:21:24

do this math. Like, he was

1:21:27

excited. And he was excited. And

1:21:29

my doctor is an addiction doctor.

1:21:31

He's an addiction specialist. He was

1:21:34

out of time, but he said,

1:21:36

you know, you have Xanax, right?

1:21:39

I'm like, yeah, you prescribe me.

1:21:41

So he says, you know, this

1:21:43

is a dosage you're going to

1:21:46

give him. So he was on

1:21:48

Benzo's. Until we got him, like,

1:21:51

you know, until he was... To

1:21:53

step down, you mean? Yeah, we

1:21:55

were going to, we were going

1:21:58

to, it was going to be,

1:22:00

when Doc got back, he was

1:22:02

going to go in and we

1:22:05

were going to medically, you know,

1:22:07

you know, you know, you know,

1:22:10

It just it just didn't happen.

1:22:12

Yeah, yeah I just, I've been

1:22:14

really, I've been at a good

1:22:17

place for a while, I was

1:22:19

walking down here, not walking down

1:22:22

here, I was walking to my

1:22:24

car to come down here. And

1:22:26

I just, I've been really, I've

1:22:29

been at a good place, like

1:22:31

for a while, and then just...

1:22:33

This week, it's just been one

1:22:36

of those weeks, man, we're just

1:22:38

little small things like a stitch

1:22:41

that was deep inside my bicep

1:22:43

started to work its way out

1:22:45

and festered into this fucking thing

1:22:48

on my arm. And it's just,

1:22:50

you know, it's funny. I know

1:22:52

it's minute, but it's still, man.

1:22:55

It's just like one of those

1:22:57

things for, fuck. You know, like.

1:23:00

So then you get, my wife's

1:23:02

hitting it with a fucking needle

1:23:04

last night and we're squeezing it,

1:23:07

we're putting medicine, it's like, I've

1:23:09

got to get antibiotics called in,

1:23:12

and then I feel another one

1:23:14

that's kind of, I feel like

1:23:16

the same kind of thing in

1:23:19

my shoulder, and it's just like,

1:23:21

oh, fuck, at 10 weeks, I'm

1:23:23

still dealing with this shit, and

1:23:26

you know, you bust your ass,

1:23:28

but you do what you're told,

1:23:31

but I do what I'm told.

1:23:33

probably plus 10% because I know

1:23:35

my body and I guess so

1:23:38

I mean I do basically nothing

1:23:40

in the gym and I come

1:23:42

home and I'm so sore the

1:23:45

next day you know because I

1:23:47

know what one of the things

1:23:50

is just the mind muscle link

1:23:52

is so fucking crystal clear Because

1:23:54

it's like you're just you're using

1:23:57

the minimal amount of weight you

1:23:59

possibly can but to still stem

1:24:02

the muscle and then the movement

1:24:04

and just the just everything. So

1:24:06

it's just everything is so fucking

1:24:09

strict and so and it's just

1:24:11

and you realize when you do

1:24:13

this because I've put back on

1:24:16

like 10 pounds and it's you

1:24:18

realize God if I fucking had

1:24:21

the knowledge I have right now

1:24:23

on the body and how it

1:24:25

functions and all these injuries and

1:24:28

all this fucking bullshit to my

1:24:30

shoulders wouldn't ever happen because I

1:24:33

wouldn't ever train that heavy because

1:24:35

you don't have to. Because the

1:24:37

only thing that can read that

1:24:40

that's a 45 pound dumbbell is

1:24:42

your fucking eyes. Oh, so. Speaking

1:24:44

of training, I saw Roth this

1:24:47

week, Kevin, and I skipped around

1:24:49

a lot. I wasn't hooked by

1:24:52

anything. Of course, it's because I'm

1:24:54

out of touch. But I wanted

1:24:56

it it was it was I

1:24:59

had a hard time a hard

1:25:01

time this week Now Jay and

1:25:03

Gunther though, it's weird and I

1:25:06

think I watched that Googer came

1:25:08

through the googer came through the

1:25:11

crowd. I thought that was cool.

1:25:13

Yeah, I've thought it was so

1:25:15

it was different perspective. I he

1:25:18

was just enough of a heel

1:25:20

and a bully to that one

1:25:23

little kid to where it was

1:25:25

It was okay. It passed. A

1:25:27

little kid in the red there.

1:25:30

Yeah. And, uh... You know, he's

1:25:32

a really good heel. He's very

1:25:34

unlikable. And, uh, I got a

1:25:37

chance to talk for a couple

1:25:39

minutes to summer slam, and he's

1:25:42

a good guy. He's smart as

1:25:44

fuck. Yeah, no, I'm digging what

1:25:46

he's doing, but I wanted to

1:25:49

ask you. We're here at February.

1:25:51

We're recording this on the 20th,

1:25:54

I guess. Uh, rest

1:25:56

of them. We're talking about

1:25:58

rest of the media. for

1:26:00

this, right? So like, are

1:26:02

we going to run out

1:26:04

of steam? We've had two

1:26:06

weeks in a row. Was

1:26:08

it April, April the 18th?

1:26:10

Yeah. So how do you

1:26:13

not run out of steam?

1:26:15

You know, to me it's

1:26:17

one of those things where

1:26:19

you almost have to do

1:26:21

something clever where there's a

1:26:23

no touch clause or, you

1:26:25

know. And then not put

1:26:27

them on every week, right?

1:26:29

Well, yeah. Yeah, it's just.

1:26:31

It's very, I mean, you

1:26:33

know, you had the match

1:26:35

for the, for the, with

1:26:37

Seth and, and Finn. And

1:26:39

I can't remember the last

1:26:42

time Finn won a match

1:26:44

of significance. You know, he's

1:26:46

like, I just didn't see

1:26:48

it being that, that night.

1:26:50

And there was a there

1:26:52

was a fuck up on

1:26:54

a false finish like a

1:26:56

count fuck up in there

1:26:58

I Caught it. I'm not

1:27:00

even anybody else caught it.

1:27:02

I didn't see it. You

1:27:04

told me yeah, there was

1:27:06

there was a little there

1:27:09

was a fuck up But

1:27:11

the thing is is like

1:27:13

I look back at when

1:27:15

Finn was like the Finn

1:27:17

was the first guy that

1:27:19

won the the Unified title

1:27:21

and like he tore his

1:27:23

pack He fucked himself up

1:27:25

like in the match And

1:27:28

he was like, he was

1:27:30

doing that demon character, you

1:27:33

know, some of the time.

1:27:35

And I knew Fenn, like

1:27:37

I met Fenn, when he

1:27:39

was like a young boy

1:27:42

over in Japan, out of

1:27:44

tour. I took him in

1:27:46

Danielson out, and we got

1:27:48

fucked up. But, uh, he's

1:27:51

just one of those guys,

1:27:53

man. He's always right there.

1:27:55

He's a guy that you

1:27:57

could light a fire under

1:28:00

and get hot quick. Because

1:28:02

everything he does looks good.

1:28:04

I thought it was, I

1:28:06

mean, it was a really

1:28:09

solid main event. I just

1:28:11

didn't, I just knew that

1:28:13

Rollins was gonna go over.

1:28:15

Right. Yeah, me too. I

1:28:18

didn't think there was any

1:28:20

chance as a qualifying match

1:28:22

for elimination chamber that it

1:28:24

wasn't gonna be. Seth. But

1:28:27

now, another thing I'm considering,

1:28:29

which we talked about a

1:28:31

few weeks ago, Rock's not

1:28:33

going to be part of

1:28:36

this, I guess, right? Because

1:28:38

something would be happening on

1:28:40

camera by now. Not really?

1:28:42

I mean, that's, he's got

1:28:44

that, the ability, that, I

1:28:47

mean, three weeks, he's the,

1:28:49

he's the hottest, he'll be

1:28:51

the hottest guy in the

1:28:53

territory. Yeah, but they should

1:28:56

be laying some groundwork then,

1:28:58

right, because this is not

1:29:00

necessary. Okay. Not necessary. Like

1:29:02

it's not necessary to do

1:29:05

that. He goes down there,

1:29:07

gets involved with Jay's shit,

1:29:09

and all of a sudden,

1:29:11

just like that whole thing,

1:29:14

anywhere he sticks his nose

1:29:16

is gonna be, the other

1:29:18

people are at a huge

1:29:20

disadvantage. Because he's just so

1:29:23

fucking much bigger than everybody

1:29:25

now. He

1:29:27

got signed to do a Scorsese

1:29:30

film. Rock, DiCaprio, and Emily Blunt.

1:29:32

It's going to... He's worked with

1:29:34

Blunt a couple of times, hasn't

1:29:37

he? Did they do like jungle

1:29:39

cruises or one of those? Oh,

1:29:42

was she in that? Okay. I

1:29:44

thought so. I've been in Hawaii.

1:29:46

It's going to be like 60-70s,

1:29:49

Hawaiian mafia. I guess drug dealer,

1:29:51

Hawaiian drug dealer, kingpin. So I

1:29:53

don't know when that starts, but

1:29:56

it doesn't sound like they even

1:29:58

have a script yet. So that's

1:30:01

what he'll be doing after that.

1:30:03

All right, back with Click this,

1:30:05

the Kevinish podcast, getting breaking news.

1:30:08

As we do this broadcast, what

1:30:10

just came up on my screen

1:30:12

now, the rock is returning to

1:30:15

more to SmackDown as I just

1:30:17

did an item. where I speculated

1:30:20

he will not be a part

1:30:22

of Iraq, because he's not been

1:30:24

on television yet, and Kevin said,

1:30:27

he's got time, they can introduce

1:30:29

him, they can work him in

1:30:31

here. Maybe I made a face,

1:30:34

but yes, thank you, Brit. A

1:30:36

little late to the game here,

1:30:39

I am, I guess. But in

1:30:41

my defense, this was not announced

1:30:43

until moments ago. So, all right,

1:30:46

more to come from the rock.

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1:30:51

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Thank you, Magic Spoon. Kevin. Florida

1:33:29

Man, Jersey guy. Maple waffle flavor.

1:33:31

Let me see that. I haven't

1:33:33

had that one yet. It was

1:33:35

Ace Memorial. Oh, I've got to

1:33:38

find that. Did you get that

1:33:40

in the store or from the

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website Ace? Let me know. Florida

1:33:44

Man Jersey guy. Two actual headlines.

1:33:47

Steve said it seasonal seasonal. Ah,

1:33:49

well this is the season then,

1:33:51

right? Because in Maple we're talking

1:33:53

fall winter. Two actual headlines, one

1:33:55

a Jersey guy, one a Florida

1:33:58

man. Kevin will, by just the

1:34:00

actions described, and no clues within

1:34:02

the headline, will be able to

1:34:04

decipher, which would be a Tupolo

1:34:07

man, sound like, he, I should

1:34:09

have thrown, if I knew what

1:34:11

the hell I was doing, I

1:34:13

would have thrown a Tupolo man,

1:34:15

and maybe next week. Hey, you

1:34:18

know what, I got to remember

1:34:20

that to, to take video of,

1:34:22

I, I was talking before about

1:34:24

my impulse purchases, Kevin. I ordered.

1:34:27

The JFK wedding cake this the

1:34:30

the bakery Montilios in in Boston

1:34:32

Still makes the actual wedding cake.

1:34:34

It's got a raspberry filling So

1:34:37

I decided the other day with

1:34:39

my wife beside me that we

1:34:41

needed to order the cake so

1:34:44

it arrived today. It's it's thawing

1:34:46

in the fridge and I was

1:34:49

hoping to be able to eat

1:34:51

there it is there it is

1:34:53

Yeah, well, yeah, it's not that

1:34:56

for the 300 guests that were

1:34:58

there. It's no I'm just saying

1:35:00

so that's that's your bumpy cake

1:35:03

That's my 99 dollar bumpy cake.

1:35:05

Yes, that was that was shit

1:35:08

that bumpy cake was like 45

1:35:10

bucks And it was like nine

1:35:12

bucks We gotta do a bumpy

1:35:15

kick giveaway. Has anyone walked up

1:35:17

to you at a signing yet

1:35:19

and had you sign a bumpy

1:35:22

cake? I haven't signed since August.

1:35:24

That's true. Since August really? Has

1:35:27

it been a little? Okay. Well,

1:35:29

somebody's gotta do it. Okay, I

1:35:31

can't say that I did the

1:35:34

OVW. I did that signing and

1:35:36

I'm glad I remembered that because

1:35:38

I gotta give a shout because

1:35:41

I gotta give a shout out.

1:35:43

I don't everybody... I'm sure people

1:35:46

watch it. But, but uh... Pikeville,

1:35:48

Kentucky was where I did my

1:35:50

signing and great little city in

1:35:53

the middle of the mountains in

1:35:55

Kentucky. Where my reference for Seampunk

1:35:57

was But

1:36:00

I was told by when

1:36:02

I got there that there

1:36:04

was not a waffle house

1:36:06

in Pikefoot. He couldn't look

1:36:08

like a wet waffle house.

1:36:10

Right. But anyway, they got

1:36:12

fucking, I mean, crushed in

1:36:14

a flood. I think like,

1:36:16

several people died, so to

1:36:18

the people that, because the

1:36:20

people were so nice and

1:36:22

kind that came out and

1:36:24

I spent time with. I

1:36:26

know right now that a

1:36:29

lot of those families are

1:36:31

going through a hard time,

1:36:33

so. You guys wrote my

1:36:35

prayers and hang in there

1:36:37

man, but some shit went

1:36:39

on like Detroit had a

1:36:41

water main that busted and

1:36:43

flooded a whole you know

1:36:45

a pretty good area of

1:36:47

Detroit and then right right

1:36:49

behind it the freeze came

1:36:51

in. So some people up

1:36:53

north man I woke up

1:36:55

today and was bitch because

1:36:57

it was 59. Yeah 18

1:36:59

this morning when I got

1:37:01

in the car. So Jersey

1:37:03

man... Florida Man Jersey guy.

1:37:05

Here are the two headlines.

1:37:07

First one. Thematically linked these

1:37:09

two. Man arrested after shooting

1:37:11

two Israeli tourists he mistakenly

1:37:13

believed were Palestinian. And man

1:37:16

is arrested after threatening flight

1:37:18

crew, mocking Jewish passengers and

1:37:20

making threats of violence toward

1:37:22

a disabled minor. Man

1:37:25

arrested after shooting. So both

1:37:27

both anti-Semitic correct But I'm

1:37:29

going to throw in the

1:37:32

Disabled minor to Florida man.

1:37:34

That's interesting It's it it

1:37:36

took you off track though

1:37:38

because that was the Jersey

1:37:40

guy But um, but that's

1:37:43

funny if you if you

1:37:45

keep the two like equal

1:37:47

whoever makes fun of the

1:37:49

disabled child who no threatens

1:37:52

to beat the disabled child

1:37:54

immediately goes Florida Yeah, I

1:37:56

guess Florida. Well, no, the

1:37:58

gun. The gun was Florida.

1:38:00

forget that because I just

1:38:03

looked the other day at

1:38:05

like different gun ownerships in

1:38:07

states and like like Jersey

1:38:09

has like 20% have guns

1:38:12

okay and like I was

1:38:14

just like wow man like

1:38:16

maybe even lower than that

1:38:18

maybe like 15 but I

1:38:20

was surprised that Florida was

1:38:23

only like 35% of the

1:38:25

people Well,

1:38:27

you got to think of

1:38:29

how many retirees. I mean,

1:38:31

I don't know how many

1:38:33

guns are floating around in

1:38:35

the villages necessarily. So, you

1:38:37

know, pockets like that. Everybody's

1:38:39

got a five shot at

1:38:41

three. The Florida man that

1:38:43

was arrested, by the way,

1:38:45

is Mordecai Braffman 27 years

1:38:47

old. He, he shot 17

1:38:49

times at two men he

1:38:51

mistakenly thought were Palestinian. They

1:38:53

were tourists from Israel. Florida

1:38:55

does not have a hate

1:38:57

crime offense. Did you know

1:38:59

this? So he can't be

1:39:01

charged with that. But the

1:39:03

charges can be enhanced, which

1:39:05

increases the seriousness of the

1:39:07

penalty if the defendant is

1:39:09

convicted. I don't know how

1:39:11

they enhance it, but they

1:39:13

don't have a hate crime

1:39:15

clause. Yeah, we're a hateful

1:39:17

stick. That's part of being

1:39:19

the free state of Florida.

1:39:21

You're free to hate. He

1:39:23

stopped his truck in the

1:39:25

parallel lane directly in front

1:39:27

of the victim's vehicle, exited,

1:39:29

and shot the vehicle 17

1:39:32

times from, I guess, close

1:39:34

range as it passed him.

1:39:36

There's Mordecai. Adding more to

1:39:38

our planet. And then the

1:39:40

individual on the plane was,

1:39:42

let's see, this is our

1:39:44

friend, 27-year-old. Passaic County man

1:39:46

Luis Vekero was charged in

1:39:48

Newark Federal Court. One count.

1:39:50

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1:39:52

members and attendance by assault

1:39:54

or intimidation. And yeah, so

1:39:56

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1:39:58

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1:42:11

Ask Nash on the socials.

1:42:13

We'll find you. And if

1:42:15

we have a room, we'll

1:42:17

read you. We'll read your

1:42:19

question. We get many, many,

1:42:21

many. So we try to

1:42:23

get through as many as

1:42:25

many as possible. And we

1:42:27

try to get through as

1:42:29

many as possible. tv.com and

1:42:31

join us as part of

1:42:33

the 11th Soft Club on

1:42:35

Patreon every week. Joe Theus

1:42:37

said, Kevin, was your song

1:42:39

in Rock of Ages, your

1:42:41

on-screen singing debut? Do you

1:42:43

ever sing in a promo

1:42:45

or? Oh, wait, the Christmas,

1:42:47

did the Christmas one? Did

1:42:49

you sing? That's right. You

1:42:51

know, it's funny when you

1:42:53

bring that up because... You

1:42:55

know, we just say he

1:42:57

sings wanted like, you know,

1:42:59

like you would a rock

1:43:01

star and then we go

1:43:03

wanted and the day of,

1:43:05

you know, we didn't have

1:43:07

any lines or anything. It

1:43:09

was one of those steals

1:43:11

where any boob on earth

1:43:13

could have done that part.

1:43:15

But I looked at the

1:43:17

cast and I said, It'll

1:43:19

just be kind of cool

1:43:21

to go down to Fort

1:43:23

Lauderdale for 60 days and

1:43:25

just kind of hang out.

1:43:27

They were paying me some

1:43:29

decent coin. You know, you

1:43:31

qualify, you qualify for everything,

1:43:33

you know, so that's cool.

1:43:35

But so that, I was

1:43:37

driving that morning, I was

1:43:39

staying in Lauderdale, I was

1:43:41

driving up to Miami. It

1:43:43

was like a 40-minute drive

1:43:46

to work. And I knew

1:43:48

the scene and everything else.

1:43:50

And I was working on

1:43:52

like when he says, he

1:43:54

goes, well, did I was

1:43:56

gonna say, and I was

1:43:58

gonna go like. And

1:44:01

then I kind of catch myself

1:44:04

and like, you know, like, look

1:44:06

like, I go, like, sorry. And

1:44:08

just to give him a different

1:44:11

take of something that would have,

1:44:13

you know, and I wouldn't, and

1:44:15

I could, I mean, it's one

1:44:18

of those things like, I always

1:44:20

go on my instincts on every

1:44:22

film I've ever been in, but

1:44:25

it was Cruz. And he was

1:44:27

so, like, I wouldn't even one

1:44:29

of those things where, you know,

1:44:32

Probably would have thrown his bile

1:44:34

rhythm off for a year or

1:44:37

something. So I said, eh, I

1:44:39

fucked this guy enough this film.

1:44:41

They would have seen it as

1:44:44

you going into business for yourself.

1:44:46

What's your throwing town? What you

1:44:48

should as an actor. Tom's one

1:44:51

of those guys I always hear.

1:44:53

I've never been in his presence.

1:44:55

A shorter gentleman. Well,

1:44:58

that's why we got the

1:45:00

rule. I've said that a

1:45:03

million times. I asked him,

1:45:05

I said, how did you

1:45:07

come up with us? He

1:45:09

goes, doesn't matter how tall

1:45:11

you are when you stand

1:45:13

between two drafts, everybody's short.

1:45:15

Is that his line? Yeah.

1:45:17

That's great. He picked the

1:45:19

two tallest fuckers he could

1:45:21

find. And Jeff was my

1:45:23

stunt double and punisher that

1:45:25

did the... The

1:45:27

step got down

1:45:30

the steps. Oh

1:45:32

Yeah, it took

1:45:34

the stepfall. Yeah,

1:45:36

I've seen that

1:45:38

Yeah Joe the

1:45:40

I'm sorry I

1:45:42

read Joe already.

1:45:44

Go ahead Ace.

1:45:46

What was that

1:45:48

there? Was that

1:45:50

really Tom Cruise

1:45:52

singing? Yeah? Yeah,

1:45:54

that was Tom

1:45:58

Best entrance music. Would

1:46:03

you put Wolfback up there

1:46:06

at least? I thought I

1:46:08

thought Wolfback was fucking sweet.

1:46:10

Okay. I actually saw like

1:46:13

something on the internet was

1:46:15

somebody pick five of them

1:46:18

and Wolfback was like third.

1:46:20

I don't know. Flares 2001

1:46:23

was always such a moment.

1:46:25

Yeah, that was that was

1:46:27

as you know. And

1:46:30

Hulk, the first run before they

1:46:32

recorded that real American song, which

1:46:34

was originally written, by the way,

1:46:36

for Barry Windman, Mike Ratundo, on

1:46:39

the wrestling album, but was just

1:46:41

given to Hogan as the answer

1:46:43

to music, when he would come

1:46:45

into Eye the Tiger. Right. One

1:46:47

of my favorite interests of all

1:46:49

time was we were in the

1:46:52

LA Forum, and this is when

1:46:54

you could just pirate fucking music

1:46:56

and come out to it. Right.

1:46:59

God just fucking popped. So you

1:47:01

just showed up that day with

1:47:03

the cassette and was like here.

1:47:06

Yeah, we used to do that.

1:47:08

I mean, that's like, I brought

1:47:10

a, like when we came out

1:47:12

to the Fuji's, I just brought

1:47:15

that to the play this. Excellent.

1:47:17

Brian Mac, Brett Hart claims that

1:47:19

immediately after Survivor Series 1995 match,

1:47:21

you told Brett, remember who did

1:47:24

you the F in favor? Is

1:47:26

this true or is Brett making

1:47:28

that up? I don't

1:47:30

know why I would say that

1:47:33

to him because he was doing

1:47:35

the favor. I was giving him

1:47:37

the belt to do the favor

1:47:39

to give it to Sean. So...

1:47:42

Got it. How about some folks

1:47:44

in the audience? Who do we

1:47:46

have here ready to ask? Bill

1:47:48

Moore, Big Kevin, been a fan

1:47:51

since day. One, just wanted to

1:47:53

say thank you and Scott for

1:47:55

all the years of entertainment. Thanks,

1:47:57

Bill. Join us. Kevin's on fire

1:48:00

tonight, baby. Jen Vargo. Oh, a

1:48:02

little bear, bear. This is the,

1:48:04

this is the step self phase.

1:48:06

I feel tired today. I train

1:48:09

legs, man. I will get, my,

1:48:11

my, my, my lower back, my

1:48:13

whole body, I, I took, I

1:48:15

was waiting for my wife to

1:48:18

just, finally, just say, all right,

1:48:20

fucking uncle on selling the fucking

1:48:22

absorb you are today. A lot

1:48:24

of grunting there, Frank. We have

1:48:27

this, we have our art, because

1:48:29

I've been getting up a lot

1:48:31

earlier, so now like, wait, what,

1:48:33

like, she was downstairs this morning

1:48:36

when I got on my call,

1:48:38

and she was in, she goes,

1:48:40

you want eggs? I was just

1:48:42

like, like, there's nothing better than

1:48:45

like when she, like, she's cooked

1:48:47

me breakfast like three days in

1:48:49

a row, and just like, oh.

1:48:51

I came down, he left my,

1:48:54

left my bed to come it

1:48:56

down and put a blanket on

1:48:58

me like an old man and

1:49:00

sit in my fucking recliner. But

1:49:03

you had some, you had that

1:49:05

home cooked breakfast, it's worth waking

1:49:07

up for. Perfect too, like eight

1:49:09

egg whites and two yolks. Who

1:49:12

else is in the house here

1:49:14

Steve? What are we got? Send

1:49:16

me somebody. Send me. Markaps. Kev,

1:49:18

do you have any thoughts on

1:49:21

strong, on the strong lifts program?

1:49:23

I don't know, and I'm not

1:49:25

familiar with it. I can look

1:49:27

it up and make comment about

1:49:30

it next week. All right. We'll

1:49:32

do that. Mark, we'll get back

1:49:34

to you on that. Find out

1:49:36

what it is. Aceremon, do you

1:49:39

believe Dusty's story about David Crock

1:49:41

at sabotaging the Shockmaster debut by

1:49:43

having a two-by-four nail to the

1:49:45

wall where Fred was supposed to

1:49:48

go through. He said he had

1:49:50

no problems before. I did hear

1:49:52

Fred talk about that there was

1:49:54

a cross bean... But I think

1:49:57

to build that, maybe you needed

1:49:59

the cross beam. I don't... Another

1:50:01

conspiracy theory here. Yeah, but

1:50:03

any time you make the

1:50:06

decision to debut somebody with

1:50:08

a storm trooper helmet

1:50:10

spray painted in smarter.

1:50:13

Yeah, you're you're already

1:50:15

fucking. You're starting at

1:50:17

about a D minus. So. In

1:50:20

that voice they had for him.

1:50:22

I got to say that for

1:50:24

years. That was always voice. Oh,

1:50:26

he. Oh, with a little effect

1:50:29

on it. Yeah. I watched that

1:50:31

for so many years and

1:50:33

laughed and laughed, but,

1:50:35

and then I met Fred

1:50:37

Ottman. Is there a nicer

1:50:39

guy? Oh, Fred's the, he's

1:50:42

the greatest guy. He's

1:50:44

so nice. I felt bad.

1:50:46

Who else? Throw me somebody

1:50:48

here. Brit. With the

1:50:50

recent controversy about the

1:50:53

women's division booking, do

1:50:55

you think Jay versus

1:50:58

Gunther should main event

1:51:00

instead of the women

1:51:02

storyline wise Jay

1:51:04

and Gunther makes sense? I

1:51:07

didn't know there was

1:51:09

a controversy. Regarding the,

1:51:11

uh, the bus, okay. Okay.

1:51:13

Again, we will, we will

1:51:15

educate. You, you, you, you,

1:51:17

allegedly. Allegedly came up.

1:51:20

Steve, do you have, do you

1:51:22

want to throw us any info

1:51:24

on this here? Do you, you

1:51:26

can pipe in here? Steve just

1:51:28

said allegedly. A locker room was

1:51:30

upset that Charlotte came back.

1:51:32

Okay. I'd imagine that. What else

1:51:34

we got here? Next. You know you're

1:51:36

a good hill when you got heat

1:51:39

with the, with the fucking talent.

1:51:41

Right. Anyone is too liked

1:51:43

in life isn't, isn't, is a... isn't

1:51:46

doing anything important. I heard that. That's

1:51:48

one of those things, Madam. Raven

1:51:50

was one of those guys that he was

1:51:52

such a great heel because his personality just

1:51:54

was that, you know. He was so obnoxious

1:51:56

in the longer room. Yeah, but I mean,

1:51:59

I loved that. He was, I thought he

1:52:01

was, I think Scott is a

1:52:03

great guy, but. He's gloriously

1:52:05

obnoxious and I think he'd

1:52:08

be the first one to tell you

1:52:10

he is. Every conversation you

1:52:12

have with him, you just wait

1:52:14

for the, that's why you're

1:52:17

wrong. How about this? I was

1:52:19

trapped at dinner one night playing

1:52:21

one of those, you know, the

1:52:23

trivia that they bring up on

1:52:25

top of the ball ring? Oh, we couldn't

1:52:28

leave. until he got the point totally wanted. That was

1:52:30

the first night I meant, the first time I'd ever worked

1:52:32

with him, first of many times, but so I didn't know

1:52:34

the whole Scotty thing yet. So he's signing the release, we're sitting

1:52:37

down to work, and of course, you know, he was free

1:52:39

to point out everything, so he's signing the release, we're sitting down

1:52:41

to work, and of course, you know, he was free to point out

1:52:43

everything, and he's signing the release, we're sitting down to work, and he

1:52:45

goes, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess,

1:52:47

I guess, I guess I guess, I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I

1:52:49

guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess

1:52:51

I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I

1:52:53

guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess

1:52:55

I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I guess I

1:52:57

guess That was Scotty. All right, what

1:53:00

do we have? Ace Romone next

1:53:02

I think in line there. Ace,

1:53:04

why does Dave Meltzer hate

1:53:07

women wrestling? I don't know.

1:53:09

I'd have to ask Dave Ace.

1:53:11

I wouldn't want to speak

1:53:13

for him. Maybe he feels

1:53:16

it objectifies them. And I'm

1:53:18

going to give him a baby

1:53:20

face rub right there. Oh, all right,

1:53:22

who's going to wrap us up

1:53:24

here? Six state, um... During

1:53:27

the time you made your decision

1:53:29

to jump to W.C.W. Did you

1:53:31

and Saul come up with alternate

1:53:34

ideas or angles before to take

1:53:36

over NWO angle? Were there any

1:53:38

plan B's or plan C's? No. Now

1:53:41

that was it, huh? Before I

1:53:43

even made my full decision to

1:53:45

come, I'd already talked to

1:53:47

Eric and Eric, because I

1:53:49

wanted to know how they were going

1:53:51

to bring us up. And Eric pitched

1:53:54

that, you know, he pitched it. So

1:53:56

that was always the plan. Yeah, because with

1:53:58

us coming in to get... I mean,

1:54:00

it just, you know, I actually

1:54:03

watched a clip from Eric's

1:54:05

show and they, because I

1:54:07

don't remember, like, they

1:54:09

never, there was never

1:54:11

a conversation that they

1:54:14

were going to come up with

1:54:16

new gimmick names or anything

1:54:19

like that. Like we were going

1:54:21

to be Holland Nash, we

1:54:23

were going to be the, like,

1:54:25

Gene gave us the name

1:54:28

of the outsiders. Because

1:54:30

we didn't have, we just

1:54:32

went by nothing for a

1:54:35

couple weeks and Gene, Gene

1:54:37

Price, are these interlopers, these

1:54:39

outsiders, and me and Scott went,

1:54:42

ooh, like that, thanks, Gene. So,

1:54:44

uh, we got, had the girls

1:54:46

make that on our outfits.

1:54:48

Uh, no, but, uh, I think that was,

1:54:50

that was the whole deal. Yeah.

1:54:52

And we had the time because

1:54:55

Hulk was doing the movie, we

1:54:57

had the time to. to get

1:54:59

Hawk interested in being the third guy. Click

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