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Hi , lady leader , and welcome
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back to another episode
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of the Leading Her Way podcast . If
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you are a female
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leader who is introverted
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and ambitious so
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ambitious that you want to take your career as
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far as you can possibly go to
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the senior leader and the executive
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level ranks of whatever
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organization your heart desires then
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you are in the right place , because that's what
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we are all about here . We are
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committed and dedicated to
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helping all introverted
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women be the best leaders
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that they can possibly be at home
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and at work , and to
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claim their inner power
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and leverage it to make the
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world and the workplace a better
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environment . So
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today I am super excited
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because we are at the top
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of the new year of 2025
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. And listen
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, I don't know about you , but
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the traditional
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holiday seasons that fall at the end
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of the year even since I was a little
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girl , it's never been like my
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thing . Of course , I enjoy
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all of those occasions
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, whether it be Kwanzaa , christmas
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, hanukkah right , hanukkah
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right Like . I've lived in environments and in neighborhoods where
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each of those holidays are celebrated
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and acknowledged , but they've never really gotten me
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jazzed up . I've enjoyed
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them , but never really like my thing
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. My thing has always
1:41
been celebrating . The new year
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has always been celebrating the new year , and even at
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work , like when I am
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leading my teams , my
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departments , my organizations it's the new year that I get jazzed about , so
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much so that , while many of my colleagues would have team celebrations
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and team dinners in the December
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timeframe to acknowledge the
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holidays , I would
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always wait till like the first or
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the second week in January and
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celebrate it . I mean for a number of different reasons
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. One , it's less attached
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to any specific religious holiday
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celebrating in the new year . And
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then , two , there's just something about
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renewal . As you guys know
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, I'm all about change . I'm all
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about doing something different , thinking
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different , becoming different , if
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that's what we want to be , and
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the new year signifies that for me
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. So I've always kind of stressed
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celebrating the new
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year . It also makes me
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think about the endless possibilities
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we each have the
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wherewithal to make
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our dreams come true , and there's
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something about the new year that kind of reinvigorates
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that energy for me . So
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that's what we're going to be doing today on this podcast
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episode . We're going to be talking
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about renewal and reflection
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as part of transitioning to
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a new year . So , as
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an introvert , you already
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are likely very reflective
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, right ? We are very into
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deeply reflecting on
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who you are , who
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you want to be , what you're doing
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, what you want to do . And so
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we're going to mark that occasion , we're going to take advantage
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of your natural
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strength and ability
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to deeply reflect and
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we're going to celebrate
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it as part of our new year and planning
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for the new year . Our new year and planning for the new year
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and we're gonna do that by
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I'm
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going to introduce to you and share with you a simple but
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very , very powerful reflection
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framework that I have used
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probably for the last 20
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to 30 years , both with
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myself , with my
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team members , my direct reports
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, with
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colleagues in my clinical practice , as well as with
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my clients , now , today , and
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it works . And
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because it's so simple and because
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it works , I wanted to share it with you
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. We'll go through a couple of personal examples
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as well , just so that you can
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see how the framework actually
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plays out . So , before we actually
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talk about the framework itself , I
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do want to take a minute to just
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highlight and emphasize
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the power of strategic
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reflection . So
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many of us are rushing
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through life you are probably rushing
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through life , I rush through life and
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there are very few moments throughout
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the year where we actually pause
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and slow things down for ourselves
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, and what
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tends to happen , particularly around
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the new year , is that people
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are so interested in leaving what they didn't
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like about the new year is that people are so interested in leaving what they didn't
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like about the previous year . Behind
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that , they just try
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to fast forward . They just try to fast forward
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time to get into the new year
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, to get into what might be possible
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. However , I
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personally have found
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a great deal of strength
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from pausing as
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we are transitioning from an old year
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to a new year and actually
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thinking through what
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not just what happened that I
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didn't necessarily like
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or didn't necessarily benefit me , but
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, more so , why it happened
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and how it could have
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been handled differently . What different
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outcomes might there have been if
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I had made different decisions
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or taken different actions ? And
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so the reason why this is important
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not just for me , but for you
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and any other introverted
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woman who wants to move up into senior
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leadership is because the
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ability to personally reflect
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is directly related
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to strategic thinking skills
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, which is a integral
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part of being a senior leader
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. So , when you are in
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a position when you can practice
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strategic planning in your personal
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life , practice strategic planning in your personal life and strategic planning
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in your personal life does include personal
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reflection , then
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that strengthens your ability
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to think strategically
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in your professional life
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. Pausing reflecting
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and thinking
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strategically in your personal
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life also is important
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to you as a potential
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and future executive
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leader , because it
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helps you to identify
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and stay connected to your emotions
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and it helps you to assess
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your mental state . I
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am confident that you
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have run into leaders who
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are not able to regulate their emotions
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, so they have emotional
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outbursts or they're extremely moody
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and everyone around them
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has to learn how to deal with that , whereas
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if that individual was
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emotionally mature , then
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they would be able to not only identify
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what they're feeling but productively
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use that state
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. So when you do not
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have a good
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handle on your emotions , then
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that impacts everybody
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around you , and it usually impacts
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everybody around you in a very negative way
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, as you are practicing
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and building the muscle of strategic
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reflection , which is
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directly connected , as I mentioned , to strategic
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planning . Part of that
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is being emotionally aware
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and regulating your emotions
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, which will make you a better senior
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leader . Similarly , that
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mental capacity of understanding
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and knowing where
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your mind is , what is
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circulating there , how
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what you're thinking is impacting
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what you say and how you act
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. That is also a result
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of being deeply
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reflective and understanding
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. Seeing how all of the dots connect
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to . What you think , impacts
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what you say , impacts
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what you do . So
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that combination
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of being emotionally
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aware and being
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able to assess yourself in
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terms of what you think like your mental
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state , those are key
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factors of being a senior leader . Also
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, too many organizations
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and too many senior leaders
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people who are in senior leadership roles today
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don't acknowledge that importance
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and don't teach it , don't
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hold people accountable for it , and
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that , in my opinion , is why
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the state of corporate
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around the world is the
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way it is today , but
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more and more organizations are
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starting to acknowledge it . So
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for you , as a growing and
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aspiring leader , it is important for
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you to do that , and it does take time
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. What I enjoy about this
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is that it's a never
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ending growth path
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, meaning that it's
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not as if you learn how to assess yourself , your
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mental state and you learn how to assess yourself your
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mental state and you learn how to regulate
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your emotions and then that's it . It
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doesn't work like that . We continue
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to grow as people in
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our leadership roles and
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our emotions will change . Our
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mental state will change , how we handle
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both of those things will change , and that
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is actually a good thing , because the
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more we learn , the more we
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lead , the more we learn , the
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more we are able to apply
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what we learn to ourselves
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and to our teams and make everything
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better . That
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many organizations
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, many people , maybe
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even you , think of
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leadership development and
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self-care as two different
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things , when they are not . They
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are intricately intertwined
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. And so when you think
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about what we're talking about today
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in terms of being
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a strategic thinker , being
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able to deeply reflect
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, those things
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are a part of self-care
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as well . Right , they are a
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part of being a good leader , and
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so you can see how the two can be
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, and should be , connected . And so
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your ability to strategically
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reflect is where
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self-care meets
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leadership development . It
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is the opportunity where you
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get to Think
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about what you've learned , take
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what you've learned and use
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it as part of being a better leader
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. It is where you get to
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use your emotions
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in a very positive way and
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you are able to become
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stronger mentally , which
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we all know is important as
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you navigate any type of environment
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, including your professional environment . So
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let's get into it , right . So let's talk
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about the three
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question framework , and I will say I
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don't have a fancy name
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for this framework . I've been using
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it , like I mentioned earlier , for decades and
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it has served me so , so well
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. I probably should think about a sexy name for it . But I don't about a sexy
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name for it , but I don't have a sexy name for it . I
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just call it my three question framework
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. With that , this
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framework is applicable
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in many different environments
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, many different ways
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, many different points of the year . We're
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using it right now as we transition
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from one year to the other , but
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in any situation where you
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need to pause and think and
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make adjustments to
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your behavior , your thoughts , your actions
12:30
, this framework will serve
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you well . So I'm just going to tell you
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the framework really quickly and then
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I'll talk about how it can
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be applied , and then I'll use myself
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as an example . I'll just walk through a couple of examples
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to show you how powerful it
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can actually be . So
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the framework is three
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simple questions . The
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three questions are number one
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what worked well ? Number
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two , what did not work
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well ? And number three
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what will you change going
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forward ? So those are the
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three questions that you
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would ask yourself in any
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situation in which you are looking
13:13
to improve or do something different
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or get better . So , for example , we're
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going to use it right now as part of our year end
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and new year reflection
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. But you can also use it
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if you are working on a major project
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and that project is over and
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you know that some other project
13:31
is going to be coming up soon . Then
13:33
it will be important for you to think through
13:35
and reflect on what worked well
13:38
with the project you just completed , what
13:40
didn't go well and , frankly , what would
13:42
you need to change as you move into the
13:44
new project that you're about to take on . You
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can use this framework with career
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transitions , when you're moving from one
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company to another company , or
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if you're moving from one career
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field to another career field . You
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can use it even if you're taking on
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a new role within a company . So , for
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example , you're moving from a
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senior manager role to
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a director role within
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the same organization . You
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already know the environment , you're very familiar
14:14
with the company and the company
14:16
culture , but you're starting
14:18
a new role . So it's an opportunity for you
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to take what you did well
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from your previous role
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into the new role
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, but then also to make some
14:29
changes and so asking yourself
14:32
what worked well in your former role what
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didn't go well , and then taking what
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didn't go well and figuring out what you're
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gonna do differently as you start your new
14:40
role . You can use this
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three-part framework when
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you have personal life transitions
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, when you are looking to
14:48
move from one home and buy
14:51
another home , or move from one apartment
14:53
to another apartment . You can use
14:56
it when you might be ending
14:58
a personal relationship whether it be a
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friendship or romantic relationship and
15:03
starting a new one . For example
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, if you are ending a romantic
15:08
relationship , there are probably some things that
15:10
worked really well with that relationship
15:12
that you enjoyed and that you would
15:14
want to make sure that whoever you
15:16
picked as your new partner had those
15:18
same capabilities or had those same
15:21
attributes . There might be some
15:23
things that didn't work
15:25
well and you would make sure
15:27
that you screen for that when
15:29
you look for a new partner , and
15:31
then there might be some things that you would
15:33
want to change . So the three-part
15:36
framework is so powerful
15:39
. It's broad but
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it is very powerful , and
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the power is actually not
15:46
necessarily in the specific
15:48
questions , but how
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you answer the questions
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, meaning that how you pause
15:55
and think and how deep you're willing
15:57
to go in answering each
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of those questions , because you can go
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really deep and make very
16:04
, very significant shifts
16:07
for yourself for the better
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. So with that
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, I will use myself as an example and
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again , let me repeat the questions . The
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first question is what worked well . The
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second question is what didn't work well ? And
16:20
the third is what are you
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going to do to change going forward
16:24
? So , if I use myself
16:27
as an example , I would
16:29
talk about this podcast . This
16:31
podcast is something that I started over
16:34
a year ago , but I had to make some significant
16:37
changes in 2024 on
16:40
the podcast . Let me use that as
16:42
an example and walk through the framework
16:45
. So the first question is
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what worked well ? So
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I started the Leading Her Way podcast
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as a opportunity
16:55
and a part of my
16:57
broader company which
16:59
is called the Change Doc and , as you
17:01
already know , both Leading Her
17:03
Way as well as the Change
17:06
Doc is completely dedicated
17:08
to helping introverted women
17:10
build themselves
17:12
into stronger leaders . The
17:15
thing about this podcast is that it scared
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the crap out of me . Meaning
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as an introverted woman who
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my power up
17:25
until this podcast has
17:27
been very understated . The
17:30
way that I show up as a leader has
17:32
always been very understated
17:35
. I have been that person who
17:37
likes and enjoys being behind
17:39
the scenes , and I would always be
17:42
a huge source
17:44
of strength to people
17:46
around me , but not necessarily
17:49
myself having to be out front
17:51
right , I would be kind of that support
17:53
behind the scenes , valued
17:56
, highly , highly valued , but not necessarily
17:59
always visible . And
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so what this podcast has
18:03
taught me and what I've
18:05
had to think about
18:08
and make proactive decisions about , is
18:10
how I show up . And
18:12
so when I think about
18:14
the question of what has worked well
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, there's been a couple of things
18:18
worked
18:25
well . There's been a couple of things . One is because this podcast and doing a podcast
18:27
was so new and different for me , I knew that I did not and could not do
18:29
it by myself . Well , that's not true , I
18:31
could do it by myself . But
18:34
because I was thinking strategically
18:36
, I knew that if I tried to
18:38
start this podcast on my
18:40
own , without any help
18:43
from people who know
18:45
about the podcasting industry
18:47
, that it would be more difficult
18:49
for me to get it off the ground and
18:52
that I would have a
18:54
lot more trips
18:56
and falls and failures before
19:00
I would start to see success . And
19:02
so I decided to hire
19:04
a coach , and that has worked very
19:07
, very well for me . It
19:09
was a financial investment
19:12
, it was a time investment , but
19:14
I am happy to say that it has
19:16
paid off tremendously
19:18
. My reach the
19:21
podcast has a you're
19:23
listening , which is fantastic , and you
19:25
are one of many people
19:27
who have been
19:30
listening to my episodes , and
19:32
so the reach of the podcast
19:35
has gone to . I
19:37
think we're up to like 75 different countries
19:40
right now I can't even remember
19:42
the number of actual cities , but
19:44
every major city in the United States
19:46
. The podcast episodes
19:48
and downloads have continued
19:50
to grow and so my
19:53
message is actually getting
19:55
out there . People are listening , you are listening
19:57
, for which I am extremely grateful
19:59
. So hiring a coach was
20:02
a great thing . That happened If
20:04
I answered the question . The second question
20:06
, which is what didn't work well ? Well
20:09
, so
20:12
what didn't work well was me
20:14
trying to script out
20:17
my podcast episodes
20:19
. Now , I know you can relate to this because
20:22
I've admitted before on
20:24
this podcast that one of the
20:26
things that I am always trying to improve
20:29
is my public speaking abilities
20:31
, and one
20:34
of the ways that I thought would
20:36
be helpful for me as I started
20:39
the podcast was to write
20:41
out for every episode what I
20:43
wanted to say , usually
20:45
verbatim . So the first 10 to
20:47
15 episodes that are
20:50
on the podcast is me
20:52
reading from a script and
20:54
, although it gave me comfort to
20:56
know exactly what I was going to say
20:59
, it landed flat
21:01
, meaning that it
21:04
felt so scripted
21:06
that it gave me no flexibility and
21:08
it felt like I was robotic
21:11
in terms of how I was showing up
21:13
as a leader on this
21:15
podcast podcast
21:26
, and I also felt like I wasn't showing up in a way that I would want or
21:28
advise you to show up as a leader in your environment , meaning yes , you
21:30
want to have a plan , yes
21:33
, you want to know what
21:35
you are directionally , where
21:37
you're going , what you're going to say . But
21:39
when you try to control
21:42
something so much
21:44
, it very
21:47
, very rarely turns out to
21:49
be something positive . And
21:51
that's what happened for the first 10
21:53
or so , 10 , 15 episodes of
21:55
this podcast podcast
22:06
. I had to build the muscle of doing and recording the episodes so that I could start
22:08
to let go of trying to control every aspect of it , and when
22:10
I was able to let go of
22:12
controlling every word that was coming
22:14
out of my mouth , I then
22:16
was able to show more of my personality
22:18
. I then felt more connected
22:21
to you as my listener . I
22:23
then was able to laugh
22:26
and joke and engage
22:29
and it felt more natural , and
22:31
the feedback that I've gotten from you as my
22:33
listeners is that you felt
22:35
that , that you felt the difference as well . So
22:38
it did not work well for
22:40
me to try to script out verbatim
22:43
what I wanted to say for every episode
22:46
, so I was able to change that
22:48
midway through the year and
22:50
it's been working well
22:53
ever since . The
22:55
third question is what
22:57
will you change going forward ? So
23:00
I've given this a great deal of
23:02
thought . I still
23:04
think there's some definitely room
23:07
for making the podcast even
23:09
better and , with some of the feedback
23:11
that you've given me , I've come up with
23:13
some ideas . The first one is
23:16
definitely bringing on more
23:18
of your questions . The first one is definitely
23:20
bringing on more of your questions . So , whether that is having you as
23:22
guests , other leaders as guests
23:25
on the podcast , or responding
23:27
to the questions that you are asking
23:29
, I've already done two listener
23:31
question episodes in
23:33
2024 , and the
23:35
response to those episodes have
23:38
been extremely positive , which says
23:40
to me Nicole , you need to add
23:42
more of these into the rotation
23:44
. So I'm definitely gonna be doing that
23:46
responding to your questions
23:48
on the podcast more frequently . The
23:51
second thing I'm gonna try to change is actually
23:53
to shorten each episode
23:56
. We are all busy leaders
23:58
and time is
24:00
money , and so I want to make
24:02
sure that I am delivering
24:05
and giving you quality while
24:07
also respecting your time
24:10
. Now you haven't necessarily asked
24:12
for shorter episodes , but I
24:14
think I have a opportunity
24:16
to start practicing
24:19
being more concise and
24:21
delivering the episode in
24:23
a way that is more easily
24:26
digestible for you , including shortening
24:28
the timeframe . So that'll be a second
24:30
thing that I strive to change moving
24:33
into the new year . And then the third
24:35
thing is starting
24:37
to flush out this concept
24:39
of you building
24:42
wealth as a introverted
24:44
female leader and we've
24:46
talked about the definition of wealth on
24:48
the podcast before a broad definition
24:50
, not just being financial , but
24:53
I do think that there is
24:55
a lot of richness there , and the
24:57
feedback that I've gotten from so
24:59
many of you is that
25:01
you want more of that content
25:04
, and so that's what I'm going to deliver . Okay
25:06
, so hopefully , in that quick example
25:08
, you can see how you
25:10
would use the three question
25:13
framework to do and
25:15
guide yourself through some deep reflection
25:18
, if this resonates
25:21
with you . I mean , I obviously just answered
25:23
one example for
25:25
each of the questions . When
25:27
I normally do this with myself and
25:29
my clients , I ask
25:31
them to do a minimum of three
25:34
responses to each question . So
25:36
I encourage you to take the three-part framework
25:39
and start using it for yourself
25:41
. If you haven't already done
25:44
some deep thinking about your
25:46
new year , then use it
25:48
now . If you've already done
25:50
that exercise for yourself , then
25:53
I would encourage you to keep the three-part
25:55
framework and use it in
25:57
the future at any point where
25:59
you are making some major type
26:02
of transition . If
26:04
you're going to do it now , then I
26:06
would encourage you to schedule
26:08
some dedicated reflection time . Take
26:10
some time and space away from your daily
26:12
routine . Sit down
26:14
for an hour to whatever
26:17
amount you need and focus
26:20
. I would also encourage
26:22
you to create a safe space for
26:25
that deep thinking . So don't sit in the middle
26:27
of the living room with the TV on and
26:29
your family around you talking
26:31
. That is all going to be distracting
26:34
. Go to a safe space
26:36
where you feel comfortable . That's away
26:38
from your day-to-day , so that you can
26:40
do the work . Then I also encourage
26:43
you to write it down . So , whether that's
26:45
on a piece of paper , if you journal
26:47
, write it in your journal . If you
26:49
take notes on a phone app , put
26:52
it in there wherever , but don't
26:54
just do it in your mind . Document
26:57
it somewhere , because you are going
26:59
to well . First of all , the science
27:02
shows that when you write things down
27:04
, it sticks longer
27:06
and deeper , so that in of itself
27:08
is a reason to write it down . But , second
27:10
of all , you may want to go back
27:12
to it . You may want to when you get
27:14
to the end of the first quarter . You
27:17
may want to go back to what you
27:19
wrote , to see and remind yourself
27:21
and to determine whether you need to
27:23
make adjustments . So , definitely write it down
27:25
. And then I would want
27:27
you to make sure that you are not
27:29
just thinking about the things
27:31
, but you are turning what you are
27:33
thinking about into actionable
27:36
goals for 2025 . And
27:39
then , finally , what you would
27:41
likely benefit from is if you
27:43
set yourself regular
27:45
check-ins , and usually what
27:48
I would encourage , what I do myself is
27:50
at the end of every quarter so at
27:52
the end of March , at the end of June
27:54
and then again at the end of
27:57
September , I literally
27:59
mark my work calendar and
28:01
I will say check back with
28:03
your 2025 goals . Okay
28:06
, lady leader . So , as we
28:08
wrap , I just want to remind
28:11
you that we , as
28:13
introverted women , have so
28:15
many great strengths and and
28:17
naturally , deep
28:19
thinking is one of
28:21
our strengths . What
28:23
I'm encouraging us to do here
28:25
is to take that strength and
28:28
to make it work for us in
28:30
a new and different way . To take
28:33
our natural tendency
28:35
to think a lot and to think
28:37
deeply and to turn that
28:39
into self-reflection
28:41
, which automatically
28:43
transitions into strategic
28:46
thinking . As a introverted leader
28:48
, as you do this
28:50
exercise , if you come up with things and
28:52
you want to share , I would love
28:54
to hear from you . I would
28:56
love to know that you have taken this
28:59
and you are making it work for yourself , and
29:01
if you want to share this
29:04
three-part framework with
29:06
your team , with your family
29:08
, please feel free to do so . It
29:11
is a powerful , powerful , powerful
29:13
tool and if you use
29:15
it in the right way , it will serve
29:17
you not just now , but forever
29:20
. Okay , lady leader , that's
29:22
a wrap . I want to wish you a very
29:25
, very , very happy new year . 2025
29:28
is going to absolutely rock
29:31
and I look forward to being in
29:33
your ears throughout . Until
29:35
next time , keep leading your introvert
29:37
way . Until
29:40
next time , keep leading your introvert
29:42
way . That's a wrap for this
29:44
episode of Leading Her Way . Thanks
29:46
for tuning in . If you have thoughts
29:49
, questions or ideas for future
29:51
topics , connect
29:54
and send me a message on LinkedIn , and if you enjoyed today's
29:56
episode , subscribe and please
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30:04
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30:06
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30:08
community of support for all of us
30:11
, leading her way to the top . Remember
30:13
your leadership is needed . Your
30:15
leadership is powerful , so
30:18
lead boldly Until
30:20
next time .
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