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So if you're a busy professional
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look I get it the issue is
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our health often takes a back
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seat and it can be hard
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to start to prioritize it but
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even small consistent steps fit into
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any schedule so I want to
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get this through to you because
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it's so important because I
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care so much about you I
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want you to look and feel
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your best impulse to avoid these
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you know, terrible things that we
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have watched our parents go through.
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Welcome to The legendary Life
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podcast, where it's all about
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taking control of your health,
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losing fat, transforming your body,
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and living the life you
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deserve with celebrity fitness trainer
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and longevity enthusiast Ted Rice.
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So you probably know that
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heart disease is the number one
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killer in the United States and
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even worldwide. But what if I
0:58
told you there's a simple non-invasive
1:00
test that could give you a
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crystal clear picture of your heart
1:04
disease risk? And what if most people,
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especially those over 40, don't even know
1:09
about it. So in this episode today,
1:11
I'm going to be sharing a test
1:13
that I had recently. It's called
1:15
a CT angiogram. And in the process
1:17
of getting that in and I'll talk
1:20
about what that is and what the
1:22
coronary calcium score is and what the
1:24
difference is, but I got a score of...
1:26
the amount of hard plaque that I have
1:28
in my arteries. It was zero. So that's
1:31
a good thing. But what I learned
1:33
from the test might surprise you, and
1:35
more importantly, it can help you make
1:37
better health decisions. So in today's episode,
1:39
we're going to be talking about that.
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I'm going to be sharing my experience
1:44
and why you need to know about
1:46
this test, what it is, why it matters,
1:48
and whether you should get one or not.
1:50
So the first thing is, what is the
1:53
coronary calcium score? The coronary
1:55
calcium score or CAC,
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it measures calcium deposits.
1:59
in your coronary artery, so
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the ones that are in your
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heart. And it's really simple. If
2:06
you have calcium buildup, it equals
2:08
advanced arthro sclerosis. That's hard to
2:10
say, that words are to say
2:12
sometimes, which increases your risk of
2:14
heart attacks and strokes, right? So
2:17
the higher your score, the greater
2:19
your risk, and the good thing
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about it, it's quick, non-invasive, and
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it can give you this score,
2:25
your CAC number, your CAC score.
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And. you should care about this
2:30
because heart disease doesn't happen overnight,
2:32
it develops over decades. In fact,
2:34
what we're learning now, it's about
2:36
lifetime exposure to, oh gosh, I'm
2:39
gonna say it, it might rub
2:41
some of you the wrong way,
2:43
but high AB levels or high
2:45
LDL cholesterol levels, if you have
2:47
high levels over time, you start
2:50
to build up plaque in your
2:52
arteries. Okay, we know, by the
2:54
way, that's the number one thing
2:56
that causes black buildup. It's high
2:59
cholesterol that gets deposited in your
3:01
arteries. And a lot of people,
3:03
I've got to say this, but
3:05
a lot of people say, no,
3:07
it's inflammation. It's metabolic syndrome. So
3:10
look, inflammation plays a role and
3:12
metabolic syndrome definitely plays a role.
3:14
By the way, most people. who
3:16
have one of the signs of
3:18
having poor metabolic health or insulin
3:21
resistance is cholesterol issues or blood
3:23
lipid issues. It shows up on
3:25
a test. So look, again, heart
3:27
disease doesn't happen overnight. It develops
3:29
over decades. And many people think
3:32
they're fine because they don't have
3:34
symptoms, but plaque can silently be
3:36
building up. In fact, I had
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a client who Lost a ton
3:40
of weight with me. He has
3:43
heart disease in his family, but
3:45
over the course of year he
3:47
lost something like 45 pounds, completely
3:49
changed his lifestyle, completely changed his
3:51
body, and not only did he
3:54
lose 45 pounds of that, he
3:56
built muscle as well. And he
3:58
started seeing a doctor because he
4:00
had not been to the doctor
4:03
in a while, and he wanted
4:05
to see what his heart disease
4:07
risk was because he has heart
4:09
disease in his family. The doctor
4:11
didn't want to do extensive testing.
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In other words, he didn't want
4:16
to do a calcium, a coronary
4:18
calcium score. The reason was, he's
4:20
like, well, you're not high risk,
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you're, you're, like, in great shape.
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But the issue is this, and
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I want you to pay attention
4:29
to this, because this is super
4:31
important. The issue is that he
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wasn't, he got, he was in
4:36
great shape for sure, but that
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was in one year. That was
4:40
in one year. That was in
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one year. That wasn't, he wasn't
4:44
in great shape, his whole life.
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And so even though he got
4:49
his weight down, he was suspicious
4:51
or concerned, let's say that, you
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know, he wanted to know, what
4:55
is my risk here? And he
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ended up getting the calcium score
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and it was high. It was
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high, which makes sense because he
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has a family history and if
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you have a family history of
5:09
heart disease, you want to really
5:11
pay attention to this. This is
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something that you need to get
5:15
ASAP. I mean, let's put it
5:18
like this. If you were my
5:20
friend. If you're my client, if
5:22
you're my friend, if I cared
5:24
a lot about you, I would
5:26
say, gosh, you know, you have
5:29
a history of heart disease in
5:31
your family, you need to get
5:33
this. All right? And here's the
5:35
thing. One of the ways that
5:37
you know that you have heart
5:40
disease, you have a heart attack.
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A lot of people find out
5:44
that they have a heart attack.
5:46
I'm sorry, heart disease, because they
5:48
have a heart attack. It's not
5:51
what you want to wait for.
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Health isn't how you feel. It's
5:55
part... partly how you feel. If
5:57
you feel good, fantastic. However, I
5:59
have a friend who drinks a
6:02
lot of alcohol and it doesn't
6:04
really affect him that much. Me,
6:06
I have a few drinks, I
6:08
feel like I'm wiped out the
6:10
next day. And my friend isn't
6:13
in good shape and I am.
6:15
This guy I'm talking about. So
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health isn't how you feel, it's
6:19
the metrics, right? It's the metrics.
6:21
Just like in your business or
6:24
your financial life, it's like you
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wouldn't say, no, I feel pretty
6:28
good about... how I'm doing financially,
6:30
how I'm managing my money. Okay,
6:33
cool, that's great that you feel
6:35
good, but what about the numbers?
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What about the numbers? Because a
6:39
lot of us, we're not doing
6:41
that well. And it's only until
6:44
you get some hard numbers that
6:46
wake you up to the fact
6:48
that you have some issues and
6:50
you should take care of it
6:52
now. And with heart disease, let
6:55
me tell you. Do you really
6:57
want to find out that you
6:59
have an issue because you... had
7:01
ended up with a minor or
7:03
even major heart attack and ended
7:06
up in the ER, you don't
7:08
want that. Because the best thing
7:10
is there's things that you can
7:12
do. Now we're not going to
7:14
talk about that in this episode
7:17
today, but I will be doing
7:19
more and more episodes on heart
7:21
disease and how to test for
7:23
it, what's important, what to do
7:25
if you have an issue. So
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how is this calcium score tested?
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Well, it's a CT scan of
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your heart. So in other words,
7:34
what you do, you make an
7:36
appointment, you've got to go through
7:39
your doctor and, you know, jump
7:41
through. Look, I did it in
7:43
Brazil, and I still needed to
7:45
get, I went and got a
7:48
cardiologist, check up with a cardiologist,
7:50
a very well-known cardiologist in Brazil,
7:52
who works with all the politicians,
7:54
you know, he's a high level
7:56
cardiologist, went and saw him, had
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a whole workup on a bunch
8:01
of different tests. And I asked
8:03
him because it's not standard to
8:05
give a coronary calcium score to
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someone like me. I don't have
8:10
a history of heart disease in
8:12
my family, although, you know, my
8:14
mom died kind of young and
8:16
my dad never had a heart
8:18
attack, but he was on medication
8:21
to keep his, he was on
8:23
medication, he had some bunch of
8:25
issues. So I ended up asking
8:27
the doctor, hey, listen, I really
8:29
want to know this number, is,
8:32
can you help me arrange that?
8:34
And he was, and he helped
8:36
me, right. I had to pay
8:38
for it and everything, but he
8:40
helped me do it. So. It's
8:43
a quick scan. Now I got
8:45
a CT angio scan. So what
8:47
they do differently there is number
8:49
one, CT angio gram, sorry, not
8:51
angio scan, but angio gram. They
8:54
inject you with contrast, which is
8:56
a dye, they inject into your
8:58
veins, and they take a picture
9:00
of your heart to see not
9:03
just hard plaque, which is what
9:05
your calcium score measures, but also
9:07
soft plaque, because I really wanted
9:09
to know us. I've had some
9:11
problems. I don't want to say
9:14
with my heart, but with anxiety.
9:16
I've had panic attacks. I thought
9:18
it was having a heart attack.
9:20
So I really wanted to rule
9:22
out heart disease as much as
9:25
possible. Thankfully, I did the calcium
9:27
score. It's zero. And even the
9:29
CT angiogram showed no stenosis or
9:31
narrowing of any of my arteries.
9:33
So that's great news. I have
9:36
no measurable heart disease at all.
9:38
48 years old. Well, I was
9:40
47 when I got it tested,
9:42
but I'm 48 now. It was
9:44
a few months ago. So, the
9:47
results come for, so, so, CT,
9:49
angiogram, it's more expensive, it's more
9:51
in-depth, and for me, I got
9:53
really sick from the contrast, I
9:55
don't want to say really sick,
9:58
but I felt like I was
10:00
motion sick, I felt horrible for
10:02
the next day. So it's a
10:04
little bit more of an investment
10:06
financially and time-wise to do it.
10:09
And, uh, Yeah, it set me
10:11
back for a day. But if
10:13
you do it, just the calcium
10:15
score, it's fast. It's not invasive,
10:18
you don't get injected with anything
10:20
and the results are super straightforward.
10:22
They come in a form of
10:24
a number. So zero is what
10:26
you want, no detectable calcified plaque
10:29
or hard plaque, which is great,
10:31
or it's not zero, which starts
10:33
putting you depending on how high
10:35
it is, increased risk of heart
10:37
attack or stroke. So look, this
10:40
is really important because I've had,
10:42
what does a zero calcium score
10:44
mean? because I've had clients, I
10:46
had one client in particular, it
10:48
was bad shape, dude was way
10:51
over way, he got a score
10:53
of zero, which is good, but
10:55
we'll talk about this in a
10:57
second because yeah, my score was
10:59
zero two, but I also got
11:02
a picture of the arteries and
11:04
there's no stenosis, no blockages. So
11:06
my score was zero, no visible
11:08
calcified plaque, but here's the key
11:10
lesson. a zero score doesn't mean
11:13
you can ignore your health. And
11:15
the older you are, the more
11:17
meaningful a zero score is, but
11:19
the younger you are, the less
11:21
meaningful it is, right? And if
11:24
you have other risk factors like
11:26
high apobee or apolep or protein
11:28
B, or if you haven't measured
11:30
that, LDL cholesterol, heart disease could
11:33
still be developing. I'm a big
11:35
proponent of prevention. I've learned too
11:37
many times. the hard way that
11:39
once you wait until the damage
11:41
is visible, yes, you get super
11:44
motivated to do something about it,
11:46
but you're you're in damage control
11:48
mode. You are reactive. You're not
11:50
being proactive. So let's talk about
11:52
why age matters. And I already
11:55
referenced this. So if you're under
11:57
50, a positive coronary calcium score
11:59
is a big warning sign. So
12:01
if you have a number that's
12:03
above zero, that means even a
12:06
little calcium at this means serious
12:08
disease risk. You should have a
12:10
score of zero. Now, if you're
12:12
over 60, a positive score is
12:14
more common. So at this stage,
12:17
looking at apobee and cholesterol may
12:19
be more important than just the
12:21
calcium score alone. It's more common.
12:23
Again, start earlier, make sure you're
12:25
taking care of business. If you
12:28
have, you know, get your blood
12:30
work done, if you have issues
12:32
with metabolic health. In other words,
12:34
if you have fasting, high fasting
12:36
glucose or high fasting or high
12:39
fasting insulin or see peptide, or
12:41
if you have hemoglobin A1C, all
12:43
these biomarkers that are elevated, that's
12:45
a sign that you have some
12:48
metabolic resistance either starting or you've
12:50
had it for a while. Also,
12:52
get your Apple B and or
12:54
LDL cholesterol. Make sure you're on
12:56
top of your blood work. Don't
12:59
be the person who waits five
13:01
years to get your blood work
13:03
done thinking that, well, I feel
13:05
okay. Because your goal should be
13:07
prevention and risk reduction. Because if
13:10
you're saving money for retirement, you're
13:12
like, no, I gotta save money
13:14
for retirement. You may be spending
13:16
your money on medical bills. Okay?
13:18
Because... you're going to have, it
13:21
becomes a full-time job to take
13:23
care of failing health. It becomes
13:25
another job. Trust me, you don't
13:27
want it. I've seen that with
13:29
my dad. My dad died in
13:32
2020, not from COVID, from poor
13:34
health, but part of what caused
13:36
him to deteriorate was he had
13:38
poor health during that time and
13:40
was super stressful as we all
13:43
remember. So again, your goal should
13:45
be prevention and risk reduction. This
13:47
stuff... Heart disease is preventable to
13:49
a large extent. If you've got
13:51
something building up, you want to
13:54
know about it. Don't stick your
13:56
head in the sand. It does
13:58
not change anything especially. If you
14:00
have kids, especially if you have
14:03
people relying on you, don't be the
14:05
person, look, I'm saying this out of
14:07
love, okay? Don't be the person who
14:09
gets into trouble and then because you
14:11
stuck your head in the sand.
14:14
So listen, I want to talk
14:16
about the full picture here, what
14:18
calcium score doesn't tell you. So
14:20
calcium score, and this is why I
14:22
had the CT angiogram. Calcium score
14:25
only detects calcified plaque. it
14:27
doesn't measure soft plaque which
14:29
can also be dangerous and
14:32
that's why you would get the
14:34
CT angiogram. Again doctors don't like doing
14:36
it. I asked the cardiologist in Brazil
14:39
to give it to me after telling
14:41
him what I did for work and
14:43
you know that I was concerned and
14:46
that I didn't know the risk on
14:48
my mother's side because she died in
14:50
a car accident and you know in her
14:52
40s I wanted to know and so I
14:55
ended up getting it. So that's why
14:57
that calcium score test it
14:59
should be used alongside other risk
15:01
markers like again Apple B or
15:03
Apple Lippa protein B by
15:05
the way I haven't said
15:08
this but Apple Lippa protein
15:10
B is a better marker
15:12
for cardiovascular risk than LDL
15:14
cholesterol I don't want to get
15:16
into that I'll do a separate
15:18
episode and maybe talk about the
15:20
calcium score and talk about this
15:23
later but a lot of we run with
15:25
our blood panels, we run
15:27
apple-lipper protein B. We also
15:29
run LDL cholesterol, but with our
15:31
clients we look at apple-lipper protein
15:33
B. We also look at L.P.
15:35
Little A, which is a topic
15:38
for another time, but it's a
15:40
separate risk factor, even if you
15:42
have low cholesterol or low apple-lipper
15:45
protein B, which we just said
15:47
is a better marker for cardiovascular
15:49
risk, according to the research.
15:51
even if you have an elevated
15:53
LP little A or you still
15:55
need to be careful. And of course
15:58
lifestyle factors like diet, exercise,
16:00
and stress management, you really need
16:02
the full picture to assess your
16:05
true heart disease risk. So how
16:07
to protect your heart starting today?
16:09
Number one is don't wait for
16:11
symptoms or a high calcium score
16:13
to take action. Start now. Number
16:15
one thing, do you exercise regularly?
16:17
Do you also lift weights and
16:20
do cardio? How is your belly
16:22
fat? How is your body fat
16:24
levels? Especially your belly fat. Do
16:26
you have most of your weight
16:28
around your belly? That's something that
16:30
you want to get rid of,
16:33
and something you can get rid
16:35
of as well. Again, managing stress
16:37
is really important. Chronic stress can
16:39
affect your sleep quality. Don't want
16:41
to get into this, but high
16:43
sympathetic activation. In other words, if
16:46
you're walking around and fight or
16:48
flight all the time, it can
16:50
affect your heart health. It's not
16:52
as important as the other things
16:54
we've talked about. but it's still
16:56
important. And of course, track key
16:58
markers like apple, lip or protein,
17:01
B, L, cholesterol, and markers of
17:03
healthy blood sugar, like fasting glucose,
17:05
fasting insulin, C, peptide, hemoglobin A1C.
17:07
Those are all things that you
17:09
can get measured to give you
17:11
an insight into how you're doing
17:14
with your metabolic health and also
17:16
heart health. So if you're a
17:18
busy professional look, I get it.
17:20
The issue is our health often
17:22
takes a back seat and it
17:24
can be hard to start to
17:27
prioritize it, but even small consistent
17:29
steps fit into any schedule. So
17:31
I want to get this through
17:33
to you because it's so important
17:35
because I care so much about
17:37
you, I want you to look
17:39
and feel your best and also
17:42
to avoid these terrible things that
17:44
we have watched our parents go
17:46
through. So even 10 to 20
17:48
minutes of exercise. is better than
17:50
none. And if you have a
17:52
small amount of time to do
17:55
exercise, you don't want to a
17:57
walk. You want to push yourself
17:59
a little bit. Doing body weight,
18:01
squats and push-ups are going to
18:03
be much better for blood sugar
18:05
regulation, much better for helping your
18:07
heart health, let's say, than doing
18:10
a 10 or 20 minute walk.
18:12
You can also do a 10
18:14
or 20 minute high-intensity interval training
18:16
routine. If you have, if you're
18:18
short on time, you do want
18:20
to push it a little bit.
18:23
But again, you have to be
18:25
careful. if you're in great health
18:27
and you're just out of shape,
18:29
but there's no, I wouldn't call
18:31
that, wait a minute, let me,
18:33
what did I just say? If
18:36
you're in great health, but you're
18:38
out of shape? No, you're not
18:40
in great health if you're out
18:42
of shape, but let's say that
18:44
you have no, you don't have
18:46
diagnosed heart disease and no, you're
18:48
in great health if you're out
18:51
of shape, but let's say that
18:53
you don't have diagnosed those things,
18:55
but you're not quite exercise. pushing
18:57
yourself either doing a hit training
18:59
or doing body weight resistance exercises
19:01
or going to the gym and
19:04
lifting weights. Those are going to
19:06
be your best choices. Now look,
19:08
we all know that at least
19:10
if you've been listening to this
19:12
podcast that a cowery deficit is
19:14
key for losing body fat. You
19:17
can do that a lot of
19:19
ways. You can do a low
19:21
carb diet, high carb diet, low
19:23
fat diet. Look, you can do
19:25
a lot of things, but the
19:27
key thing is are you losing
19:29
weight slash body fat. Make sure
19:32
you adjust your diet so that
19:34
you're eating fewer calories, so you
19:36
start to lose that excess body
19:38
fat, especially if it's around your
19:40
waist. And also use data to
19:42
help you make smarter targeted health
19:45
decisions. Don't fly blind. It's one
19:47
of the things that our coaching
19:49
programs, we really push our clients
19:51
to do, is get this data
19:53
because it makes a difference. And
19:55
I've seen people go from not
19:57
really... from telling themselves a story.
20:00
Like, hey, I'm pretty good to,
20:02
oh, man, I'm not doing as
20:04
well as I thought. So let
20:06
me take some action here. Okay,
20:08
and if you're, if you're a
20:10
high performer and you're having some
20:13
trouble being consistent, taking care of
20:15
your health, this is a great
20:17
way, getting some blood work done
20:19
is a great way to, for
20:21
number one, to be honest about
20:23
your current health, about the risks
20:26
that you're facing. and also a
20:28
great way to motivate you to
20:30
do something about it. And don't
20:32
just get your blood work, but
20:34
I would highly recommend looking into
20:36
getting your coronary calcium score as
20:38
well. So what are the final
20:41
takeaways here? Look, the coronary calcium
20:43
score, it's a powerful tool, but
20:45
it's just one piece of the
20:47
puzzle. And look, if you're over
20:49
40, the best strategy isn't reactive,
20:51
it's proactive. Do not wait till
20:54
you have a problem, get on
20:56
it. your future health depends on
20:58
the choices that you make today.
21:00
So should you get a calcium
21:02
score test? Look, if you're curious
21:04
about your heart health and want
21:07
real data to guide your next
21:09
steps, I again, if you're my
21:11
friend or client, I would say
21:13
you need to get it ASAP.
21:15
But remember, it's not just about
21:17
a single test. It's about long-term
21:19
prevention because the best time to
21:22
take care of your heart was
21:24
when you're in your 20s. The
21:26
second best time was like. 10
21:28
or 20 years ago, but the
21:30
third best time is right now,
21:32
okay? I don't want to, if
21:35
you're in a situation where you're
21:37
like, oh man, you know, I
21:39
feel like really bad because I
21:41
haven't been taking care of myself
21:43
for like decades. Look, you can
21:45
still make a big change just
21:47
like my client did. He has
21:50
an elevated calcium score, but there
21:52
are a ton of things that
21:54
he can do to manage it
21:56
so that he has less risk
21:58
going forward so he can be
22:00
around. for his grandchildren. Okay? So
22:03
again, if you want to take
22:05
control... of your health, reach out
22:07
to me, go to legendary life
22:09
program.com/apply, that's legendary life program.com/apply and
22:11
apply to hop on a strategy
22:13
call with me. So on that
22:16
strategy call, we'll talk about where
22:18
you are with your health, what
22:20
you want to achieve and what's
22:22
in the way of you achieving
22:24
it. And if it makes sense
22:26
to talk about working together. We'll
22:28
cover that as well. And again,
22:31
this isn't for anyone. This is
22:33
for high performers. So if you
22:35
are running a company or if
22:37
you're an executive in a company
22:39
or if you've exited a company
22:41
or if you're a high performing
22:44
professional, I work with doctors and
22:46
lawyers and accountants and consultants. So
22:48
if you fit that bill, then
22:50
and you resonate with what I've
22:52
said here, you definitely want to.
22:54
Book a call and let's talk.
22:57
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23:05
learned a lot. Speak to you
23:07
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