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1:13

It looks like you're naked. It

1:16

does? Well because you think a color

1:18

of my top? She's wearing a top that

1:20

like is basically about the hue of

1:22

her skin. So it looks like just

1:24

she has like titties out. That is

1:26

so funny. Could you imagine? We should

1:29

just put like a blurred sensor bar.

1:31

Just for fun. Just see if

1:33

anybody notices. What is that show

1:35

naked and afraid? Are we talking

1:37

about that? Oh yeah, that's

1:40

the show. When they're out

1:42

in the woods somewhere? Oh

1:44

God. Can they be naked

1:46

and inside? That's what

1:48

I want to see. But then

1:51

you wouldn't be afraid. I mean

1:53

for some of this might be.

1:55

Oh no. Oh wait, wait. No,

1:58

no, no. Listen. Listen.

2:00

Wait, wait, wait. Let me fix

2:02

it. Welcome back to Let Me Fix

2:04

It, the podcast that says, American woman.

2:07

Why'd you make this movie? I'm so

2:09

glad that you appreciated that. It's a

2:11

really good friend. It's good. Thank you

2:13

so much. I'm for Jessica Ramsey. I'm

2:16

an actress, producer, writer, and graphic designer.

2:18

And I'm Delonne Grant. I'm an actor,

2:20

singer, photographer, writer, and an educator. And

2:22

this week, class, we are continuing our

2:25

movie-focused season, our movie-focused season, Kravitz's directorial

2:27

and co-writing debut, because she actually co-wrote.

2:29

It's blink twice. Described as a mystery

2:31

thriller/horror, it follows Zo's ex-fiancee Channing Tatum,

2:34

and relative newcomer Naomi Aki, who you

2:36

might know from the Whitney Houston biopic,

2:38

I wanna dance with somebody, has they

2:40

traips around a private island until shit

2:43

starts getting weird. Now, Delan, you've suggested

2:45

this movie. Why did you suggest it?

2:47

And what did you hear about it?

2:49

So you know, I hadn't heard anything

2:52

about it, but I don't go to

2:54

the actual movie theater as much, and

2:56

none of us really do, right? But

2:58

I went to see XXX or the

3:01

Pearl, I forget the actress, Mia Goff,

3:03

Mia Goff's movie. Yes. And it was

3:05

advertised because this is a thriller like

3:07

you were saying. And so I was

3:10

like, huh, Zoe Kravitz, Tan. Looked a

3:12

little interesting and listen. This Naomi trailer

3:14

was the. was was grabbing yeah I

3:16

grabbed well it named you Aki not

3:19

to like you know put too much

3:21

on her looks but she has these

3:23

big doe eyes she has a very

3:25

interesting and like a gap I love

3:28

a gap at her I was like

3:30

oh female black Lee don't I fall

3:32

into the fall into the gap baby

3:34

let's go I was just really intrigued

3:37

but you had heard about you'd seen

3:39

the trailer too where do you see

3:41

what did you see the trailer I

3:43

saw the trailer I don't know what

3:46

movie I was seeing but I did

3:48

see the trailer I was seeing

3:50

This this looks interesting.

3:52

I'm into it.

3:55

But I heard from

3:57

people who saw

3:59

the movie. They were

4:01

so upset with

4:04

the film. I saw

4:06

so many people

4:08

being like, Zoe, you

4:10

will never see the gates of

4:12

heaven. I was not called around

4:14

her name. They

4:17

said they said every

4:19

zoo on the block can get this

4:21

motherfucker's smoke. It was those out on

4:23

a no is Zoe Kravitz. What is

4:26

something's in the zoo? But people were

4:28

people were really pissed about it. And

4:30

I really stayed away from spoilers because

4:32

I was like, I don't want to

4:34

know what it is. And when you

4:36

suggested it, I was like, oh, this

4:38

could be interesting because people were very

4:40

divided. I will also say to

4:42

one, you and I did not text during

4:44

this movie. I know, class. We

4:46

only know movies. So I'm really

4:48

excited to see where you stand

4:50

totally. All right. So let's

4:52

let's just just lightly touch on

4:54

it. Rotten Tomatoes ranks this film 75

4:56

percent fresh. Do we agree or

4:58

disagree? Now, this is this is

5:00

the tomato meter, not the popcorn meter, right?

5:03

The tomato meter is 75. But I

5:05

believe the popcorn meter was 71 percent. Damn.

5:07

So critics and audiences

5:09

agree. You know, you

5:13

I'm hesitating. I listen to the Tomatoes

5:15

Fresh. Let me say that Tomatoes Fresh.

5:17

I don't know if it's 75 percent. Really?

5:21

I mean, I would give it a

5:23

low a high 50, a low,

5:25

very low 60, a 60 percent. I

5:27

don't know. 60 is still fresh.

5:29

50 is, I think is

5:31

rotten. Fifty is right. No, 50 percent

5:33

milk. Well, what

5:35

is. Yeah,

5:38

no, I did not I did

5:40

not like this movie. Yeah, really did not

5:42

like this movie. It started strong. It really did.

5:44

And that's where it started

5:46

strong. Slow, slow, but it lost its

5:48

way. Well, listen, clearly we have lots of

5:50

thoughts. So let's unpack the film and then

5:52

as usual, we will each try our best

5:54

to fix it. Let's dive in. This is

5:56

blink twice. Let me fix it. Now

6:00

before we start there's of course

6:02

a spoiler warning because we're going

6:04

to review the film, but we

6:06

also have to do a content

6:08

warning because this movie

6:10

has some very graphic depictions

6:13

of sexual assault. So please proceed

6:15

with caution. Yes class. So let's

6:17

get into it. The film opens

6:19

with Frida a down on her

6:21

luck cocktail waitress on the

6:23

toilet doom scrolling through her

6:26

phone. Hashtag Francesca Ramsey. Wow,

6:28

as if you're not looking on

6:30

the phone when you're on the

6:32

toilet, so don't lie. I mean,

6:34

listen, to the point where my hips

6:36

hurt, I'm like digging it up. Because

6:39

you know I'm in a squatty potty

6:41

too, so like you gotta get up.

6:43

So all of us in the world,

6:46

because you know you do it too.

6:48

So Frida, she watches a series of

6:50

news clips about this bad boy tech

6:52

billionaire named Slater King. The name needs

6:55

work. The name is terrible. Slater, Acey

6:57

Slater, and it's just too Slater. No

6:59

one is named Slater in 2025.

7:01

It's just too slick. So she was

7:04

watching Slater King who announces he's taking

7:06

a break, a leave of absence from

7:08

his company and focusing on therapy after

7:11

getting into. as some sort of hot

7:13

water. It's not really clear what that

7:15

hot water is, but you know, it

7:17

tracks because billionaires do this in the

7:20

world. So go ahead, right? Later, Frida

7:22

and her bestie, Jess, played by Ali

7:24

Shawcat. Is that her using her name?

7:27

I think it's Shockhawk. Shockhawk?

7:29

Shockhot. Arrested development fame, really interesting

7:31

actress, I like her. They're both

7:33

waitressing at a fancy fundraising gala

7:36

for Gasp Slater King and his

7:38

company. I mean, just very convenient.

7:40

She just saw him on the

7:42

toilet. Now he's in person. So

7:45

they have this little meek cute where Frida

7:47

trips and falls and lands right at Slater

7:49

King's feet. Of course, sparks fly and at

7:51

the end of the night, he invites Frida

7:53

and Jess to join him and his friends

7:56

for a dream vacation on a private

7:58

island. Of course, the island isn't... It's

8:00

absolute paradise, champagne flowing, elaborate delicious meals,

8:02

and a wardrobe stocked with ultra-flattering bikinis.

8:04

How do they get everybody's bikini size?

8:07

You know, right. Well, because, well, listen,

8:09

also, dame, but one black girl there,

8:11

so, right, Rita, and if there were

8:14

other black girls, there was, there was

8:16

a mixed girl in there, because she

8:18

was doing, at one point, a black

8:21

cent came out, and I was like,

8:23

what? I'm from Dyke Men, and I

8:25

was like, oh, Dyke in class, if

8:28

you're not from New York, as the

8:30

Bronx. I hear us, I don't see

8:32

us. What's going on? She got real

8:35

saucy in the tub. She real dead.

8:37

She real dead. I did, I did

8:39

not, I didn't know until that moment.

8:42

So yes, there was only two of

8:44

us in there. But I was thinking

8:46

about the bathing suits. I was like,

8:49

now how did they know she wants

8:51

a high-wasted bikini? They're like, so can

8:53

I ask you a question about that

8:56

though? Because you know, I wear a,

8:58

I wear a speed up. universal. Do

9:00

you know what I mean? Like tied

9:02

at that? No, there's no universal sizing

9:05

for bathing suits. Bathing suits, like all

9:07

women's clothing, and I know because I've

9:09

been going through sizing with my merch,

9:12

the sizes are wildly different across manufacturers.

9:14

So it will truly give you body

9:16

dysmorphia whiplash, should be like, oh, I'm

9:19

a six over here, and I'm a

9:21

12, wow, 12 over here, what's going

9:23

on? Like it's always something. So they

9:26

get to the island, they have clothes

9:28

waiting for them, lose track of time.

9:30

Have they been there two days or

9:33

two weeks? Who cares? The vacation is

9:35

too good to be true. Don't, don't,

9:37

because it is. Wow. Here's a quick

9:40

question before you. Are you going, like,

9:42

given this scenario in the context, are

9:44

you going... Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Well,

9:47

I was watching this movie class. I

9:49

said, Fran is not even talking to

9:51

this man. Fran is not even talking

9:54

to him, okay? I'm not gonna, I'm

9:56

not gonna victim blame, okay, but we've

9:58

already set up from the jump that

10:01

this motherfucker is into something bad. Right.

10:03

He has made this, and he does

10:05

this big thing where he's like, I'm

10:07

going to therapy, I'm sorry, I'm not

10:10

trusting a man that is talking about

10:12

therapy, like he should begin a cookie

10:14

after you did something wrong? You did

10:17

something? And he's like, oh, therapy, blah,

10:19

blah, blah. And then he says, come

10:21

with me, come with me on this

10:24

private jet to this private jet to

10:26

this island to this island again. They're

10:28

young, I think they're in their 20s,

10:31

you know, and maybe when I was

10:33

in my 20s, I would have been

10:35

open to something like that. But now,

10:38

knowing what I know now, apps a

10:40

fucking lute. Well, we've also like, I've

10:42

talked about this on the honest season

10:45

of the pot before. There are things

10:47

that I did in my 20s, like

10:49

I traveled a lot by myself, and

10:52

there were situations where I was like,

10:54

what, now I'm like, what were you

10:56

doing, were you doing, in that man

10:59

on a bike? Belt murdered. Couldn't have

11:01

been wholly murdered in France. Yeah, you've

11:03

done so quite. Listen, again, we've all

11:06

done some questionable shit. I think in

11:08

the circumstances of this film, it was

11:10

a little bit too convenient. Way too

11:12

good. Just kind of, you know, the

11:15

dominoes fell just a little too perfect.

11:17

Yes. But again, suspension of disbelief. Absolutely.

11:19

So back to the film, after they

11:22

get to the island, they're settled in,

11:24

they're having a good time, like Fran

11:26

was saying, Ali Shokat, who plays Jess,

11:29

her character gets bit by a giant

11:31

snake, and the next day she... disappears

11:33

without a trace. So this is where

11:36

it felt like the film kind of

11:38

began for me. Yeah. No one remembers

11:40

her being on the trip except Frida.

11:43

Frida starts to freak out, questioning reality,

11:45

until through a series of flashbacks, she

11:47

and one of the other girls on

11:50

the trip, Sarah, discover the men on

11:52

the trip have been attacking and sexually

11:54

assaulting the women every night and then

11:57

erasing their memories with this magical perfume.

11:59

Frida only remembers the events because she

12:01

stumbles upon this creep. groundskeeper lady who

12:04

unbeknownst to freedom offers her a sip

12:06

of this antidote this snake venom turns

12:08

out this isn't the first time they've

12:11

been on the island the little rape

12:13

scavenger hunt has been going on for

12:15

fucking years yeah this is this is

12:17

where I was like all right guys

12:20

I like this is just I just

12:22

really hate when sexual assault is used

12:24

as a plot point like this same

12:27

I just same just like what's the

12:29

point So the movie wraps up with

12:31

Frida and Sarah using the snake venom

12:34

to wake up the other girls and

12:36

then there's a giant fight scene where

12:38

everybody fights to the death and Frida

12:41

saves Sarah from being killed by spraying

12:43

Slater with that magic perfume. And then

12:45

the twist that can only be described

12:48

as so unsatisfying and stupid. The film

12:50

jumps ahead to this fancy fundraising gala

12:52

where Frida and Slater are now... married

12:55

and he is this clueless arm candy

12:57

and she's in charge who cares that

12:59

he raped her for years and killed

13:02

her best friend now she gets to

13:04

be a pajillionaire the end come up

13:06

and it's so it's so what clearly

13:09

we have opinion so before we get

13:11

into the the bad ones what worked

13:13

for you in this front okay so

13:16

I felt like at the beginning of

13:18

the film, something that we've talked about

13:20

in a lot of movies that we've

13:22

reviewed this season, is not really knowing

13:25

who the main character is and not

13:27

hearing about them. And I thought they

13:29

did a good job of establishing that

13:32

this girl was down on her luck.

13:34

She's, you know, not making very much

13:36

money. She's struggling in her job. She

13:39

doesn't want to be waiting tables. You

13:41

know, we see that her and Jess

13:43

have a little bit of a I

13:46

forgot about that, yeah. Yeah, so they

13:48

have, so we got to know them

13:50

and I actually really liked the girl

13:53

playing Frida whose name I now can't

13:55

remember. I liked her, Naomi, I liked

13:57

her, I liked Ali, I thought they

14:00

had really great chemistry. I bought them

14:02

as friends. I thought stylistically, like when

14:04

it was fun on the island, I

14:07

mean, it kind of went on for

14:09

too long. I was like, where is

14:11

the fucking twist? But like, it was.

14:14

stylistically, kind of felt like a music

14:16

video, you know, where they're like dancing

14:18

and they're taking shots and they're running

14:21

around. A montage, you know, I love

14:23

a montage. I love a montage. That

14:25

stuff was like pretty to look at.

14:27

I'm really scraping the bottom of the

14:30

barrel here. But that's it for me.

14:32

What worked for you? I'll go, I'll

14:34

start with you on like how it

14:37

looked. So I thought there were really

14:39

great shots. I thought I wrote down

14:41

and watching it, it felt like an

14:44

art film. Yeah. And they know there

14:46

were really, like it's very colorful, they're

14:48

really interesting. There was a very beautiful

14:51

shot where Channing Tatum was also in

14:53

the film class of Channing Tatum, plays

14:55

Slater, Slater, Slater and Frida and like

14:58

laying down in the camera is horizontal.

15:00

angles horizontal. So almost feels like we're

15:02

laying down with them, which was kind

15:05

of cool, and the camera moves slowly.

15:07

That was cool. They did a lot

15:09

of prospective stuff too, where it was

15:12

like really close up on my eye,

15:14

or like, you know, she's taking the

15:16

lip gloss out, and it's like, why

15:19

can you hear the sound of it?

15:21

Yes. All that stuff. Yeah, and some

15:23

of it went, some of it felt

15:26

like we were in film school. Right?

15:28

Some of it felt like we were

15:30

in film school. And so like I

15:32

appreciated a lot of it. It was

15:35

very symmetrical, like a huge shot where

15:37

everything was really balanced and you felt

15:39

it made you as me as the

15:42

viewer feel like settled. And like wow,

15:44

I'm looking at a photo. So that

15:46

was really nice. There were some cool

15:49

editing choices to your point. Like they

15:51

were, they shot through people's legs and

15:53

they shot inside of a locker locker.

15:56

That was kind of cool. to an

15:58

episode this season class diagetic sound is

16:00

when in film or in theater or

16:03

some kind of media, they take sound

16:05

that is specifically from in the world

16:07

of the of the. the media. So

16:10

it would be from the radio or

16:12

in this movie they used like the

16:14

headphones. It was the headphones like it

16:16

was started in the world and then

16:18

it like went into our headphones. That

16:20

was very cool. There was another moment

16:22

where they're riding to the house on

16:24

the island and all of the music

16:26

is playing in the car and then

16:28

once they open the door the car

16:31

music just stops. And that was like

16:33

very abrupt and told me like a

16:35

information without really showing me anything, which

16:37

is very cool. Yeah. And the last

16:39

thing I'll say about things that I

16:41

thought worked really well, when Frida and

16:43

Sarah finally, like, their memory comes back

16:45

about all the trauma they've experienced and,

16:47

you know, the violence, they have to

16:49

do a good job because they're on

16:51

this island with no police, you know,

16:53

it's a private island. They have to

16:56

do a good job at like... pretending

16:58

like everything's okay and that was like the

17:00

most dramatic tension in the film the entire

17:02

time for me watching them kind of act

17:05

through it and they weren't acting well which

17:07

made it even more tense you know but

17:09

I thought that was yeah I'll give those

17:11

things to the film I was like okay

17:13

I like that yeah you know another thing

17:15

that I wanted to say that I that

17:17

I did think worked Even though I think

17:20

it took a long time for the film

17:22

to like really get started, you could feel

17:24

something was in the air from the jump.

17:26

Like you knew and that sometimes can be

17:28

really difficult and maybe I'd have to

17:30

watch it again to pick up on

17:32

the exact things, but sometimes it was

17:34

just like the way something was shot

17:36

and then like Frida would look over

17:38

her shoulder and she'd have like, okay,

17:40

now I'm in the kitchen, now I'm

17:43

doing this thing and it. kind of

17:45

was like she felt like she was

17:47

being watched or something was feeling really

17:49

heavy. I don't know the way it was.

17:51

It was like the music the the

17:53

framing of everything and the close ups

17:55

of the face. Yeah and to your point

17:57

about the everything the symmetry. I

18:00

think that might have been part of

18:02

it too, is almost like everything was

18:04

too perfect to make on the island

18:06

and it was done in such a

18:08

way that like Frida was having a

18:11

ball, but Jess was like, I don't

18:13

know, this is a little bit weird.

18:15

And we, the audience, are like, yeah,

18:17

this is really weird, but I don't

18:19

know why it's weird, but I feel

18:21

that it's weird. Yeah. All right, so

18:23

what did it, what did it work?

18:26

for you. Oh girl, it took too

18:28

fucking long for the movie to start.

18:30

Like I, I clocked at 30 minutes,

18:32

I clocked at 45 minutes, I clocked

18:34

at an hour and I was like,

18:36

when is something going to happen? And

18:39

I think one of the, one of

18:41

the issues with it is that it

18:43

had, it was like Easter egg mania.

18:45

It had too many fucking Easter eggs

18:47

class. If you don't remember what an

18:49

Easter egg is, an Easter egg is

18:51

in a script or anything, they. you

18:54

need to remember. So there were, there

18:56

was the lighter that kept on. There's

18:58

a gecko. There's a gecko. There's the

19:00

red rabbit. The red rabbit. There's the

19:02

bruise. There were just too many things,

19:04

too many things to keep track of.

19:06

And, and it didn't deliver enough. Like

19:09

if you're gonna, whatever, you're the writer,

19:11

right, but if you, pepper those Easter

19:13

eggs in there, I need you to

19:15

give me a little bit of information

19:17

about why I need to know that.

19:19

Like have them come to fruition in

19:22

some way. There were just way too

19:24

many of them from me. Yeah, I

19:26

agree with you there, especially because to

19:28

your point about coming to fruition, you

19:30

gave us all these Easter eggs and

19:32

then the reveal was, they're raping y'all,

19:34

like, oh! Okay, what? You've been here

19:37

before, but it's like, it's like, it's

19:39

like, you know what it is? The

19:41

usual suspects, you know, remember that film?

19:43

So the usual suspects, it's, it's this

19:45

heist film, and it's, um, Kevin Spacey,

19:47

who, see Bushami, there, um, anyway, the

19:49

end of the film, there's a whole

19:52

reveal, right? That's, that's, that's. the twist

19:54

and it's really it really pays off

19:56

but before in the 90% of the

19:58

film you really are invested in what's

20:00

happening we didn't know what was happening

20:02

for 90% is film Well, and to

20:05

your point about the usual suspects is

20:07

a really great reference because they have

20:09

Easter eggs, but they don't go, look

20:11

over here. This is something. It's just

20:13

part of the story. And then at

20:15

the end, when they show you all

20:17

the reveal, you're like, oh my God,

20:20

I remember this and this and this.

20:22

And in this movie, it's like, zoom

20:24

in, there's dirt under her nails. She

20:26

looks up, what is their dirt under

20:28

my nails. I don't know what. And

20:30

you're like, and you're like, what? So

20:32

something happened, but she doesn't remember, like,

20:35

okay, like, what's going on? It takes

20:37

too long, right? Like, I was just

20:39

gonna try to fix it, let me

20:41

not fix it. The last thing I'll

20:43

say before I pass it over to

20:45

you that I did not enjoy is

20:48

that, you know, at one point class,

20:50

just gets bit by a snake, because

20:52

there are a bunch of snakes, venomous

20:54

snakes. And that's how Jess's gets her

20:56

memory back. The venom is the antidote

20:58

to this perfume. And Jess goes to

21:00

Frida, her friend, her best fucking friend

21:03

and roommate, and is like, girl, we

21:05

need to go. Like, set aside how

21:07

they're going to go, right? But Jess's

21:09

like, we need to go, right? But

21:11

Jess's like, we need to go. And

21:13

then Frida's like, don't do that. This

21:15

is the time of my life. And

21:18

it's crying. If you got bit by

21:20

a god-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by-by- It's over. We had a

21:22

great time. The vacation is done. We

21:24

have to take you to a hospital.

21:26

We're done. I just was like, that

21:28

is, that was weird to me. I

21:31

didn't like that. Yeah, and you know

21:33

what? I'll take it a step further

21:35

and say that. You know, I always

21:37

feel a little confused when black people

21:39

act stupid in horror movies because we

21:41

don't do we don't do that. You

21:43

know what I mean? We are leaving.

21:46

We see one person running and we

21:48

run it. You know what I mean?

21:50

So like that felt weird. And not

21:52

to say, like, I do think that

21:54

Frida did a great job, but I

21:56

think the roles were reversed and it

21:58

was the black girl who was like

22:01

we got to go I would have

22:03

believed that and the white girl being

22:05

like I don't know like it just

22:07

to your point the black girl would

22:09

die yeah well I mean she did

22:11

die right just presumably sure she dies

22:14

sure sure she dies you know they

22:16

they they kill her but you're right

22:18

that was a weird moment of your

22:20

friend is not even just that it's

22:22

weird your friend has been bit by

22:24

a snake and everyone's like it's fine

22:26

oh that's fine going to be fine.

22:29

I would be freaking out. I don't

22:31

know that I'm going to be fine.

22:33

You don't know that I'm going to

22:35

be fine. Right, exactly. You know, what

22:37

about you? What did you like? What

22:39

did you not like? Could not enjoy

22:41

or didn't work? I mean, I felt

22:44

similarly about how slow it was. I

22:46

will say to my credit, I did

22:48

watch it in one sitting. Last few

22:50

movies, I've had to break up because

22:52

they just felt so long. The pacing

22:54

felt strange to me. I really just

22:57

did not like the reveal. There were

22:59

a number of shots of like, you

23:01

know, the girls getting assaulted and their

23:03

quick cuts, but it was just a

23:05

lot. And I felt like there should

23:07

have been some indication that that's what

23:09

this film was about. Like, you know,

23:12

I felt okay. I don't. generally get

23:14

super triggered by this type of content.

23:16

I am a survivor of sexual assault,

23:18

but I don't, I feel like I'm

23:20

through therapy in time, I'm at a

23:22

place where if I see it in

23:24

a film, it doesn't send me into

23:27

a spiral. But the empathetic part of

23:29

me thought, God, I wonder how many

23:31

people went into this movie not knowing

23:33

that this was what this was about

23:35

and that like really fucked them up.

23:37

And you're trying to make a twist.

23:40

But I just feel like we're at

23:42

a place where. If that's

23:44

going to be the twist, so to

23:46

speak, there has to be, it has

23:49

to feel justified. And I don't really

23:51

know what the point of it was

23:53

when them by the end, home girl

23:55

marries the man that's been raping her

23:58

and killed. her friend and killed her

24:00

friend her best friend and now she's

24:02

getting with him like it's an it's

24:05

supposed to be this like oh a

24:07

girl boss bad bitch twist and it's

24:09

like oh this is so unsatisfying so

24:12

unsatisfying friend it's so in terms of

24:14

like to your point like the stakes

24:16

are so high you killed my best

24:19

friend and now my best friend you

24:21

facilitated the death of all of these

24:23

other people on the island yeah nobody

24:25

really these would say for Sarah Slater

24:28

Slater and and Frida you don't even

24:30

know that Sarah Sarah just goes you

24:32

sure you want to do this and

24:35

walks off but she walks off and

24:37

you'll see her like we don't know

24:39

how they get off the island like

24:42

there's just like a lot of plot

24:44

holes there. I will also say the

24:46

whole conceit about the perfume and the

24:49

venom and all that stuff it just

24:51

felt like not really well planned out

24:53

and it kind of was just like

24:56

haphazardly thrown together and as I was

24:58

watching I was like wait okay wait

25:00

so the the venom she gave her

25:02

that that were I don't But how

25:05

did she piece together that that's what

25:07

worked and why did the lady give

25:09

it to her? Yeah. But also like

25:12

the other part is I didn't know

25:14

if it was the perfume that was

25:16

doing it. I don't know if it

25:19

was the alcohol. I don't know if

25:21

it was in the food because they

25:23

gave her drugs. Right. She's doing Molly

25:26

and and Silasiblin, mushrooms, right? So I

25:28

don't know what it was. Yeah, they're

25:30

smoking. They're smoking lots of weed. They're

25:32

always rolling blunts. Like, you know, it

25:35

could have been any number of things.

25:37

So at the very end when she

25:39

reveals that she sprayed him with the

25:42

perfume, I was like, oh, okay. So

25:44

that was what was doing. I was

25:46

so, it was like, it was like,

25:49

bam! And I was watching thinking, oh.

25:51

Oh, but not like, it wasn't like

25:53

shock or surprise or anything like that,

25:56

right? No. What surprised you about the

25:58

film? Uh, I was surprised that, look.

26:00

I don't really know anything about Zoe

26:02

Kravitz other than the fact that her

26:05

parents are Lisa Bonet and Lenny Kravitz.

26:07

But to me, this film felt like

26:09

not like incongruous with who she is,

26:12

like how she presents her so much.

26:14

She presents herself as like artsy, like

26:16

indie darling, like really kind of like.

26:19

rock and roll cool girl and then

26:21

it's like great movie like I just

26:23

like I don't know I thought she

26:26

would I thought she would and I

26:28

knew it was a thriller like don't

26:30

get me wrong but like I guess

26:32

I would expect her feature debut to

26:35

be something more like I don't know

26:37

like garden state like something like artsy

26:39

credit for wiggy Yes, and like exactly

26:42

like in black and white, like I

26:44

don't know, just like with like a

26:46

vintage rock and roll sound track and

26:49

like the Rolling Stones playing or something.

26:51

I don't know why. I just, to

26:53

me, she gives like Williamsburg and this

26:56

felt like somebody who, you know, just

26:58

watch. Who watched get out and was

27:00

like I want to make a get

27:03

out, but about sexism like it's like

27:05

okay? Very get out. What surprised you

27:07

about this film? I have two things.

27:09

I was surprised at the choice of

27:12

the soundtrack like they used they used

27:14

like James Brown and the US Shaka

27:16

Khan songs and there's even Beyonce song.

27:19

Yeah. And they cut in a very

27:21

weird moment. Yeah. started and then stopped.

27:23

Well they just placed them, they placed

27:26

them and I was like, what is

27:28

this music doing to support the moment?

27:30

Like it's not, it just wasn't supporting

27:33

the moment and I also was like,

27:35

how dare you try to taint these

27:37

classics? I was like, especially James Brown

27:39

and Shaka Khan. I was like, I

27:42

think the Shaka Khan was used for,

27:44

not a violent thing, I forget what

27:46

it was used for, but she starts

27:49

seducing seducing them to try and like,

27:51

that was really weird too. like okay

27:53

we're gonna and it went on for

27:56

way too long way too long free

27:58

to decide that she's gonna start dancing

28:00

on the table to distract them so

28:03

Sarah could grab a wine opener and

28:05

hide it so that she could get

28:07

crazy I don't it just and it

28:09

went on for a really long time

28:12

and it just I don't know what

28:14

did you think of zos directing I

28:16

mean Listen, the shots were cool. I'll

28:19

go back to the shots. I thought

28:21

some of the shots were very, very

28:23

cool. I say for the close-ups. And

28:26

I get it. I think that was

28:28

some of the tension of the thriller.

28:30

Like when I get a really close-up

28:33

shot of your face where you're just

28:35

staring at a phone or staring at

28:37

someone or whatever for dramatic tension. Yeah,

28:40

so I thought the shots were cool.

28:42

Were the performances, anything special? Hmm, they're

28:44

fine. You know, but I kind of

28:46

thought the script was just kind of

28:49

fine too, too, too, too, too, too,

28:51

too, too, too. So. Yeah, same. What

28:53

did you think? I thought she did

28:56

okay. Honestly though, I just felt like

28:58

there were so many moments that reminded

29:00

me of like music videos of like

29:03

commercials that I feel like that might

29:05

be her lane. If you really want

29:07

to direct, so just maybe not a

29:10

full, and you know what, or maybe

29:12

don't do the writing, maybe just do

29:14

the directing, because I did think there

29:16

were some shots that were creative and

29:19

interesting, and I could see those being

29:21

like... in a high fashion campaign. Again,

29:23

that's what I could see her doing,

29:26

because she's a fashion girly. She's done

29:28

a lot of campaigns and stuff. Or

29:30

like, ask her daddy, shoot one of

29:33

his music videos. Well, because she wants

29:35

to make her own lane, though, Brown.

29:37

She's not an opera. She's her own

29:40

artist. You don't have your own lanes

29:42

though. You really don't. You really don't.

29:44

You know what? Take advantage of it.

29:46

And to her credit, I mean, I

29:49

don't think she's ever shied away. Like,

29:51

you know, you know who her parents

29:53

are. She's not like one of those

29:56

that changes their last name. And you

29:58

know, it's like, oh no. I don't

30:00

know that girl, it's like you have

30:03

their face. You just have a, you're

30:05

using your middle name now. Whatever.

30:07

Yeah, I've tried to think of

30:09

one, I can't think of one.

30:12

Did you like the movie? I'm

30:14

not recommending it for anybody.

30:16

You know, yeah, it was fine. It was fine.

30:18

I mean, I will say this as. We can

30:21

see a theme for me in this season. It

30:23

was an hour 45 minutes. You know, I

30:25

checked as soon as that shit started. I was

30:27

like, okay, great. I can do that. Yeah, but

30:29

it felt, but it felt long. It felt fucking

30:32

long. It felt long. You hated it. Yeah.

30:34

Yeah, I didn't hate it. I just

30:36

didn't like it. I just didn't

30:38

like it I think again It

30:40

started out really strong and I

30:42

wish I wish that it had

30:44

stuck the landing for me Just

30:46

just really did it and honestly

30:48

I liked this film better when

30:50

it was get out or bodies

30:52

bodies bodies bodies I I loved

30:54

both of those down bodies bodies

30:57

bodies bodies bodies bodies bodies too.

30:59

Bodies bodies bodies class is a

31:01

fucking amazing thriller Yes. It's self-contained,

31:03

very similar to this. It takes

31:05

place in one location. It's an

31:07

ensemble film. I mean, again, just

31:10

there were so many parallels to

31:12

me. Yeah. And I felt like

31:14

they tried to do like comedic

31:16

stuff. Like they have Haley Joel

31:18

Osman, you know, kind of being

31:20

loud and he's complaining about, I

31:22

don't know, his acting career falling

31:25

apart, his ex. Cheating on him

31:27

and Simon Rex is in this

31:29

movie like randomly and Christian

31:31

Slater and Janine yeah, yes

31:33

Yes, exactly. So like there's

31:35

a there's flashy names a lot

31:38

of people are in this movie

31:40

It just it just doesn't feel

31:42

original. It feels like it's it's

31:44

trying to be like five different

31:47

movies and not doing a good job

31:49

at any of it. It's very is

31:51

very like maybe mid-budget maybe mid-concept

31:53

and like low on the delivery,

31:56

right? I, I, to your point

31:58

I get, I see. what it

32:00

was trying to be and it

32:02

was trying to do. I just

32:04

like, I didn't, I didn't, eating

32:06

it, it looked better than it

32:08

did when I was chewing it,

32:10

you know what I mean? Yeah,

32:12

totally. Let's get some interesting facts

32:14

about this film. Zoe Kravitz started

32:16

writing blank twice under the original

32:18

working title Pussy Island in 2017.

32:20

Talk about on the Those Girl,

32:22

damn. No, absolutely. But also, I

32:24

really needed to include this because

32:26

this really speaks to you again,

32:28

my problem with the film. It's

32:30

very clear that you just wanted

32:32

to do something like risque and

32:35

edgy. Because if this is a

32:37

movie about women being brutally kidnapped

32:39

and assaulted, calling it Pussy Island?

32:41

Crazy. That's just fucking disgusting. So,

32:43

uh, she intended to keep the

32:45

title of the film. Except for

32:47

she got a very negative reception

32:49

from the MPAA, women, and theaters.

32:51

So everybody said, girl, don't do

32:53

it. So again, I think the

32:55

title and the film should have

32:57

stayed in the drafts, but that's

32:59

just me. Agreed. And I mean,

33:01

I don't know, is Blink twice,

33:03

is that something they say about

33:05

sexual assault? Is that like a

33:07

related sexual assault? No, freedom makes

33:09

a joke when she's at the...

33:11

gala and she says blink twice

33:13

if you're in danger if you're

33:15

in danger and I think she's

33:17

just like a cute little cheeky

33:19

like give me give me a

33:21

sign that you're not okay because

33:23

you know that like for sexual

33:25

assault there are certain signs that

33:27

you are supposed to give like

33:29

a hand or a fist or

33:31

something I can't remember what it

33:33

is there's a there's a fist

33:35

thing that you're supposed to do

33:37

I don't I don't remember what

33:39

it is but it's an associate

33:41

blink twice with anything sexual assault

33:43

specific. I just thought it was

33:45

a cheeky little reference at the

33:47

beginning. Because I was trying to

33:49

tether that together because when I

33:51

discovered him, it was about sexual

33:53

assault. I was like, oh, does

33:55

that, does the title mean something?

33:57

Another interesting fact is Zoe co-wrote

33:59

the film, like he said at

34:01

the beginning with E. E.T. Fine,

34:03

Finebaum, Feigenbaum, Feigenbaum, I don't know

34:05

how to say that, so forgive

34:07

E.T., who she previously worked with

34:09

on a short-lived Hulu series High

34:12

Fidelity, which was based on the

34:14

2000 Rahmcom High Fidelity starring Zoe's

34:16

mom, the famous Lisa Bonet. I

34:18

know, I thought that was kind

34:20

of cool. I didn't see the

34:22

High Fidelity series. A lot of

34:24

people liked it. It only got

34:26

one season. But I will also

34:28

say... Zoe was not the only

34:30

Nepo baby in the room. Livon

34:32

Hawk, the son of Ethan Hawk

34:34

and Uma Thurman, was also in

34:36

the building. The tall, lanky, the

34:38

tall, lanky one. He has, he

34:40

has Uma's full face. He really

34:42

does. He's like very long and

34:44

blank and bird-like. Yes, absolutely. Another

34:46

Nepo honorable mention is Haley Joel

34:48

Osman. He is not technically a

34:50

Nepo baby, but his sister is

34:52

the actress Emily Osmit. So, you

34:54

know, the family business runs deep

34:56

for a lot of the people

34:58

in this film. Last. Funny, interesting

35:00

thing that I grabbed from IMDB.

35:02

A character trips or falls down

35:04

in this movie a total of

35:06

23 times. Everybody is falling. Everybody

35:08

was falling. I mean, when you

35:10

talked about the me, when you

35:12

talked about the meekout of it

35:14

all, the beginning of this episode,

35:16

where, you know, Zoe's at the

35:18

gala, or excuse me, not Zoe,

35:20

Frida and Jess are at the

35:22

gala, but they're like, they were

35:24

working the gala, but then they

35:26

put on dresses in a somebody,

35:28

she. trips and falls and like

35:30

lands on some glass and then

35:32

she falls in front of Slater's

35:34

feet. I was like, that's violent

35:36

and I guess it was a

35:38

precursor to what comes. I was

35:40

like, that's not a meat, that's

35:42

not a bee cute, that's a

35:44

fuck up. That's a lie. Yeah.

35:47

No, it was and I think

35:49

and now I think about it,

35:51

maybe they were trying to signal

35:53

to us, you know, he like

35:55

helps her, he helps her and

35:57

he like takes care of her

35:59

and he takes care of her

36:01

and like takes care of her

36:03

and like takes care of her

36:05

and like takes care of her

36:07

and like takes care of her

36:09

and like takes care of her.

36:11

realize that he's actually gonna end

36:13

up hurting you later on. Again,

36:15

I'm kind of retrofitting this, but

36:17

maybe that's what that was supposed

36:19

to be. Sure. But yeah, it

36:21

was, it was very violent and

36:23

like the glass crunch and it's

36:25

like the close up of the

36:27

glass in her hand and stuff.

36:29

And all of that, all of

36:31

that, she cuts her hand and

36:33

then Slater's bodyguard offers her a

36:35

band-aid and the, that's an Easter

36:37

egg. And then the result of

36:39

that or the delivery of that

36:41

is later on we see the

36:43

band-aid one moment and then in

36:45

the next shot the band-aid's gone.

36:47

How did the band-aid go away?

36:49

All of that for that one

36:51

Easter egg? Yeah, I missed. I

36:53

totally missed that. So weird. I

36:55

totally missed that, but you're right.

36:57

They had a lot of those

36:59

like, oh, we're going to see

37:01

a little gecko at the very

37:03

beginning of the film and then

37:05

she's going to have a gecko

37:07

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38:13

first? Sure. So I want, instead

38:15

of this film being about sexual

38:17

assault, I want it to be

38:19

a revenge film. So I say

38:22

start the film where Frida becomes

38:24

Mrs. Slater King, right? And she's

38:26

a bajillionaire. And but keep the

38:29

context of everything that happened on

38:31

the island. We just maybe see

38:33

flashbacks of that. But let's see

38:35

her use the perfume to help

38:38

trauma victims get back at their,

38:40

the people who victimized them, right?

38:42

So like they inflict some kind

38:45

of either revenge or violence on

38:47

the people that caused them the

38:49

trauma. And then you have, I

38:52

think you have a moral

38:54

question, right? Is vengeance or

38:56

revenge, is that justified or

38:58

is that morally reprehensible? And

39:01

then you have this like.

39:03

assault type Robin Hood or Batman,

39:05

you know, who like who gives

39:07

to helps people with trauma, but

39:10

she's still hurting people, right? Is

39:12

harming people justified? I would rather

39:14

see that than sexual assault being

39:17

the premise, being the thing that

39:19

the whole film was turned on

39:21

because it's just like, it's just

39:23

not interesting to me.

39:26

It's really not interesting to me. It

39:28

uses it as a little bit of

39:30

a trope and I think... to your point

39:32

about, you know, her just becoming this bajillioner at the

39:34

end, like you said at the beginning, that kind of

39:37

just erases all the stuff that she, because we don't,

39:39

she gets money and that's it? Like capitalism? That's it?

39:41

And that's all she, and that's all she wants? Yeah,

39:43

I really like your fix. And I think, again,

39:45

it really solves the bigger problem with this

39:47

film is like, like, what is it about?

39:50

Like, what is the question that it's attempting

39:52

that it's attempting that it's attempting that it's

39:54

attempting that it's attempting that it's attempting that

39:56

it's attempting to attempting to attempting to attempting

39:58

to attempting to attempting to attempting to I

40:00

wrote this week's episode. I saw some

40:02

things that were saying that they were

40:04

loosely trying to reference like Jeffrey Epstein's.

40:06

It's very Jeffrey Epstein quoted, yes. And

40:08

you know, Gina Davis is kind of

40:10

like the woman who is assisting in

40:12

Galane Maxwell. Galane Maxwell, you know, and

40:14

I understood that they were making that

40:16

connection, but why? Like you know there's

40:19

just was no explanation as to why

40:21

and and your fix I think is

40:23

really smart because it has the thing

40:25

of like hurt people hurt people right

40:27

and even if and even if you

40:29

know something that could be also really

40:31

interesting about that is like you know

40:33

they are they're doing all this revenge

40:35

stuff but like what if they get

40:37

the wrong person? Wow you know? Wow

40:40

and that's how they get caught or

40:42

something I don't know yeah Or like

40:44

it begs the question where, especially if

40:46

it could be really interesting, you know,

40:48

it's Frida and maybe she has like

40:50

this little group of girls that work

40:52

with her and they're all kind of

40:54

a team or something and one of

40:56

them is like, wait a second, I'm

40:58

not sure if this is the right

41:01

one. And there's this moment of like,

41:03

well, who fucking cares? All men are

41:05

rapists. They'll probably end up raping somebody

41:07

at some point. So we should probably

41:09

fucking kill him. You know, you know,

41:11

you know, you know, you know, you

41:13

know, you know, you know, you know,

41:15

you know, you know, you know, you

41:17

know, you know, you know, you know,

41:19

you know, you know, you know, you

41:22

know, you know, you know, you know,

41:24

you know, you know, you know, you

41:26

know, you know, you know, you know,

41:28

you know, you know, you know, you

41:30

know, you know, you know, you know,

41:32

you know, you know, They're doing something

41:34

in the name of justice, but are

41:36

they going about it the right way?

41:38

And then there's the question of like,

41:40

well, if we go about it the

41:43

quote unquote right way, they don't believe

41:45

victims anyway. Right. Like, you know, what's

41:47

going to happen? They're going to do

41:49

like six months. Right. Is the law

41:51

even just how many police officers have

41:53

us off of somebody? Like there's so

41:55

many layers there that could have a

41:57

really poignant commentary on rape culture. And

41:59

I think if you're going to just

42:01

throw in sexual assault, you need to

42:04

be fucking saying something. And I just...

42:06

Well, and also like it gives, I

42:08

think it gives, well I'll speak from

42:10

the eye, it gives me as an

42:12

audience member... a little bit more to

42:14

chew on, right? I'm, who am I

42:16

rooting for? Why am I rooting for

42:18

them? Right? Is it wrong? I want

42:20

people who have suffered from trauma to

42:22

get, to not only get better, but

42:25

like, yeah, like you, you was sexually,

42:27

remember that, that story about the, the

42:29

French woman whose husband had, was drugging

42:31

her, and had like double digit high

42:33

numbers of men coming over to. rape

42:35

her, she sexually exposed her. This is

42:37

her husband for years, right? That man

42:39

should be under the jail and he

42:41

is. But what that woman now has

42:43

to deal with and their family that

42:46

they have together, yes, part of me

42:48

goes like, is jail enough, right? Right.

42:50

And I think that's really interesting where

42:52

it's like, you think you know, your

42:54

healing is going to come from killing

42:56

this person, but you still have to

42:58

walk around with this trauma and you

43:00

still have to do that work and

43:02

there's something really interesting about seeing somebody

43:04

navigate that and realizing that like no

43:07

amount of money, no amount of revenge

43:09

fixes the hurt unless you're willing to

43:11

do that internal work yourself. And like

43:13

I just think that that is a

43:15

much more interesting film. I mean, I

43:17

love that. We're over here just fixing

43:19

it. What about you? What's your fix?

43:21

Well, similarly to you, I would get

43:23

rid of, honestly, I would get rid

43:25

of like the whole rape plot completely.

43:28

I think there's something really interesting about

43:30

going to this island and getting stuck

43:32

in this loop. And I think I

43:34

like movies like that. Like, have you

43:36

ever seen The Beach with Leonardo DiCaprio?

43:38

Oh, I vaguely remember that, yes. So

43:40

in the, I couldn't tell you what

43:42

happened. He was really young when he

43:44

did it, right? Yeah, yeah, I guess

43:46

so. I don't remember. There's a period

43:49

of time where Leon DiCaprio looks like

43:51

he's 16. And then all of a

43:53

sudden he's becomes 40. You're like, I

43:55

think it's the alcohol. I don't know,

43:57

but like he was very young and

43:59

then he became. older. But somehow everyone

44:01

he dates stays the same. Turns

44:03

out. So in that movie he

44:06

gets caught in a loop on

44:08

the beach and like he can't

44:10

seem to leave. And I think

44:12

something very similar could happen here.

44:14

Another movie that we might want

44:17

to review that's in the bad

44:19

movie space is a don't worry

44:21

darling. Similarly, they get, there

44:23

is like a loop that they get

44:25

caught in as well. And I,

44:27

there's something just, I like movies

44:29

like that. I don't know why

44:31

they're caught in the loop, but

44:34

there could be something with her

44:36

romance with this man. Like maybe

44:38

there's some element of the romance

44:40

that has to be fixed or

44:42

in order for them to leave

44:44

the island or maybe they're inside

44:46

of. his memory of the time

44:48

that they used to have together

44:50

and he's replaying. She realizes maybe

44:52

she's actually not real. She's like

44:55

a figment of his imagination. Oh,

44:57

that's cool. Where she's, you know,

44:59

when she finally decides that she

45:01

wants to leave, she realizes like,

45:03

she's dead or something, you know,

45:05

like that there's always that they're

45:07

in heaven, they're in hell, could

45:09

be like a good place type

45:11

of thing. because I think what

45:13

this film does really well at the

45:15

beginning is the fun and games still

45:17

has this air of like something's not

45:19

right and something's about to go wrong

45:22

and like the heightening of that I

45:24

think is really interesting and

45:26

again to those credit I think visually

45:28

that would have given her room to

45:31

just do more creative things.

45:33

you know, the bending of time, the

45:35

repetition, I love when films do that

45:37

word, like they do the match cut

45:39

of your scene, the same thing

45:41

happening over and over and over

45:44

again. Yeah, Groundhog Day, yeah. I think

45:46

I love, yes, it's like a modern

45:48

Groundhog Day, but like, how do they

45:50

get out of it? I don't know, that's

45:52

what I would love to see. You

45:54

know what I love, what I love

45:57

about that friend too is that this

45:59

was labeled a thriller. psychological thriller, right?

46:01

Because then we're getting into the psyche

46:03

of like, of her, I love her

46:06

being in his mind. And like he's,

46:08

whatever loop he's in, he's just trying

46:10

to figure it out, trying to figure

46:13

it out, but she is still the

46:15

lead of the movie, right? She's trying

46:17

to figure out why it keeps happening,

46:19

why it keeps happening? And I also

46:22

would add like, to get out. get

46:24

out right to get out of the

46:26

film or out of his head rather

46:28

she has to help him solve the

46:31

thing and it's not until they team

46:33

up together that they're able to solve

46:35

you know what movie this kind of

46:37

reminds me of it's another Leonardo DiCaprio

46:40

movie the one where he is no

46:42

it's another one where he's like a

46:44

detective oh my god what is that

46:46

fucking Shutter Island. Oh, creepy movie. I

46:49

fucking love that movie. I fucking love

46:51

that movie. Another one that had a

46:53

great twist where there's lots of time

46:55

jumps and as the audience we're like

46:58

we're trying to figure out what's going

47:00

on. We start piecing together the little

47:02

Easter eggs that are in there. I

47:04

think that could have been really fucking

47:07

interesting her being trapped in his mind

47:09

or Or maybe she's in like solitary

47:11

confinement or some shit, you know, she's

47:13

like slowly fucking losing it and she

47:16

You know, it's like the door slams

47:18

and then like it match cuts and

47:20

she's in jail and it's like and

47:22

the you know, the nurses are like,

47:25

yeah, she thinks she's on the island

47:27

again. Oh I love that. I don't

47:29

think she ever, you really think she'd

47:31

do about Slater King? No girl, she

47:34

ain't know him. You know what I

47:36

mean? And then like they go back

47:38

to whatever and she's just kind of

47:40

like rocking in the corner. She's like,

47:43

oh we go back to the beach.

47:45

I love the back to the beach.

47:47

I love the door slamming though. And

47:50

that maybe that's we always come back

47:52

to you. Oh, she couldn't do it.

47:54

So she ended up back in solitary.

47:56

That's interesting. You reminded criticized for shit

47:59

for over the years as I love

48:01

Reinforgering the Darren Arnost. I liked that

48:03

movie. I did like that movie. It's

48:05

hard. It stars, uh, not live, Jennifer

48:08

Conley and Jared Leto. That double-ended Dilda?

48:10

That was, that was an extended cut.

48:12

I seen it. I definitely seen it.

48:14

Me too. I think I own it.

48:17

It's behind me on my bookshelf. Yeah.

48:19

And Ellen Berkin? Ellen Berston. Ellen Berston.

48:21

Brilliant performance by Ellen Berston. Oh my

48:23

God. She. Marlon Wayans. Great performance by

48:26

him too. Yes. Oh my God. Great

48:28

fucking film. One of the best parts

48:30

of the film is the editing. It's

48:32

like you see different parts of them

48:35

like they're all kind of not kind

48:37

of they're all drug addicts and you

48:39

see like kind of the devolution of

48:41

the of their characters as they go

48:44

through the various drug addictions and they're

48:46

all connected but the drugs are like

48:48

really quick shots and I think she

48:50

could do Zoe could have done really

48:53

cool things if if she went with

48:55

your premise of like if it's a

48:57

loop if it's like I don't know

48:59

a 15 to 20 minute loop How

49:02

do you cut up certain things and

49:04

make it feel that kind of tense?

49:06

It's really, yeah. And how do you,

49:08

and how do you cut it up

49:11

to show the passage of time? And

49:13

then we're going through the same thing

49:15

over and over again. Requiem is a

49:18

really great reference because it, the pace

49:20

of it, because that film is long,

49:22

but that is a long movie, but

49:24

the pace of it makes it feel

49:27

fast. It's so true. And you. you

49:29

fucking blaze through that film and it

49:31

is really it's it's heartbreaking but it's

49:33

satisfying in the way of like you

49:36

see their their their their how their

49:38

Psyche and how their bodies and how

49:40

their addiction devolves in a way where

49:42

you're like, oh my God, like, I

49:45

can't believe that this is happening, but

49:47

you know where it's going and again,

49:49

it is hard to watch, but it

49:51

feels really earned. And I think that

49:54

that was a big thing that was

49:56

missing in this movie, is like, the

49:58

twist happened and then it was over

50:00

and it was like. to me. One

50:03

of that really felt satisfied. One last

50:05

thing about rec room because it is

50:07

one of my favorite movies going like,

50:09

oh, that's it? Oh yeah, I got

50:12

it. One last thing about rec room

50:14

because it is one of my favorite

50:16

movies. The Cronos Quartet does the soundtrack,

50:18

the string quartet and it is fucking,

50:21

I used to study to it because

50:23

I would fall asleep reading in undergrad.

50:25

That soundtrack is intense though. That and

50:27

John Williams soundtracks kept me up. Because

50:30

they're so intense. Music has always

50:32

been my love. So now that

50:34

we have fixed or attempted to

50:36

fix, I almost said, recommend for

50:38

a dream, linked twice. It's now

50:40

time for everyone's favorite segment, the

50:42

glow-up, where we give props to

50:44

those who have turned themselves around

50:46

without our held friend, why don't

50:48

you go first? Oh, okay. My glow-up goes

50:51

to Flex. My little man, you know how

50:53

he's been in here coughing. Girl, we heard

50:55

him during the episode. Well, he's gotten

50:57

better because my man had a cold.

51:00

I took him to the vet. I

51:02

was like, he had a cold. He

51:04

had a cold like that. He

51:06

can get colds like that. And

51:09

he's better. He's been on medication.

51:11

But I got to say, when

51:13

Flex was, they were like, oh, Flex

51:16

is here. We have to put

51:18

a muzzle on him. And then

51:20

at one point, he was just

51:22

really, they had to like. put in

51:24

his nose and in his eyes to get

51:26

a little sample he was very upset and

51:28

so they were like you know what why

51:30

don't you go out into the lobby we'll

51:32

take care of him and so they did

51:35

it and when I came back they were

51:37

like he really he really did a good

51:39

job he he was upset but you leaving

51:41

I think he was posturing for me he

51:43

was like look I'm a big dog mom

51:45

her her her her as soon as I

51:47

left he was like all right I'm fine

51:49

so again I I I've given him many a

51:51

glow up I did feel I

51:53

felt bad because I was

51:56

like too long too long

51:58

but you know dogs make

52:00

weird, fucking noises. They make weird noises

52:02

all the time, but it got to

52:04

a point where he was coughing, just

52:07

like multiple times a day, and he

52:09

wouldn't stop. And I was like, all

52:11

right, this is, this is getting to

52:13

be a lot. Yeah, I will say,

52:16

though, I gotta fight that. And again,

52:18

though, I gotta fight that fucking again

52:20

to take his little pill. I know

52:22

you do. I put it in, there's

52:24

like these little doggy snacks where it's

52:27

like a hole. He'll put in his

52:29

mouth, he'll suck on it, and he'll

52:31

just go, I'll find the medicine. Oh,

52:33

I'm like, what the? They are too

52:36

fucking smart for their own good. Too

52:38

smart. Really? Too, too smart. But, you

52:40

know, again, it has been working, he

52:42

is feeling better, so shout out to

52:45

Flex for, you know, growing up when

52:47

he has to go to the doctor,

52:49

and, you know, I'm fighting him on

52:51

those pills, but he is taking them.

52:54

Yeah. I gave her back. I gave

52:56

her back and she wasn't my dog.

52:58

But I could judge for that a

53:00

lot, but listen, she's in a home,

53:03

she's went back to her foster mom,

53:05

she's good. Yeah, but it's better than

53:07

the alter. You know what? I will

53:09

never judge you that for that, because

53:12

guess what? A lot of people get

53:14

these dogs, and you know when they

53:16

don't want them, they put them on

53:18

these streets. That part. And you put,

53:21

you, and and it's a trial period.

53:23

I almost gave this guy. I'm just

53:25

like a little bit of a tangent.

53:27

I was talking to this waitress in

53:29

New York with some friends about pets

53:32

and I said this and this woman

53:34

went dug in to me. Did she

53:36

white? I think she was Latina. Yeah,

53:38

I think she wasn't white. She wasn't

53:41

white. Okay, because I was going to

53:43

say, well, that's true. Because if it's

53:45

an animal, if it's an animal, they're

53:47

about to fight. It was it was

53:50

a Greek restaurant. She might have been

53:52

Greek restaurant. She might have been Greek.

53:54

back and forth and forth and I

53:56

was like can I get my rosé

53:59

I literally had to go also like

54:01

what was but also like okay what

54:03

what's the out when you're gonna go

54:05

back and get pick up the dog

54:08

because you said something to me at

54:10

the restaurant I don't know you sist

54:12

do you want the dog she's like

54:14

I have two dogs myself I said

54:17

girl good for you take care of

54:19

them dogs yeah oh god that's weird

54:21

wait what's your glow-up so my globe

54:23

goes to Demi Moore I'm giving it

54:26

to she's a star she's famous she

54:28

was a huge star she's still a

54:30

huge star but in the 90s was

54:32

like the height of her fame and

54:34

she won a golden globe for this

54:37

film the substance which made did you

54:39

see it I didn't see it do

54:41

you see it yes we should review

54:43

that okay I loved I actually really

54:46

liked it looked like she's acting acting

54:48

oh acting down yeah I'm so I

54:50

I haven't seen the substance but she

54:52

was in Ryan Murphy's The Swans which

54:55

was was it pretty big that was

54:57

a series that came up and I

54:59

mean if you look her up she's

55:01

been working right she hasn't stopped working

55:04

since she was like since she became

55:06

a movie star but as Hollywood does

55:08

with a lot of us women in

55:10

particular right they kind of like relegate

55:13

you to after you're shy and shown

55:15

too bright, you're still working, but you're

55:17

not the same kind of star that

55:19

you were, you don't have the same

55:22

star power. So it's nice to see,

55:24

like, you know, in her older age,

55:26

her still, having her mojo, giving her

55:28

good parts and, you know, getting her

55:30

award and stuff. Well, she talked about

55:33

in her Golden Globe's acceptance speech that

55:35

she had always been described as a,

55:37

quote, popcorn actress, like somebody who just

55:39

does like fun movies, like fun movies,

55:42

not actually acting acting. she had said

55:44

that she was described that way and

55:46

the Golden Globe was that was her

55:48

first this was her first award season

55:51

where she was a real contender and

55:53

getting this Oscar nomination which you know

55:55

I hadn't seen all of the movies

55:57

in her category But, and I, so

56:00

I don't really know if she was

56:02

robbed. I have a hard time saying

56:04

that. But I was really impressed with

56:06

her performance. I thought she did a

56:09

great job and I really liked that movie.

56:11

Yeah, I really, it's on my list now.

56:13

I really want to want to see it.

56:15

Similar to you, I did not see a

56:17

bunch of the films for the Oscar films,

56:19

but you know, now that we're still

56:21

talking about them and especially with this

56:24

season, I'm sure we'll review a few

56:26

more and try to fix a few.

56:28

I think we should try and get

56:30

some, if it's not the substance, we

56:32

should get some like highly regarded films

56:34

in the mix or maybe like a

56:37

documentary or something, like something to just

56:39

switch it up. I love a document.

56:41

We've been, we've been doing a lot

56:43

of does. And full transparency, we've been

56:45

looking for the dots because it's a

56:48

part that's about fixing it, right? Like

56:50

you kind of need the does. but

56:52

I will say like maybe maybe our

56:54

fixes end up being like spin-offs. Oh,

56:56

I love that. You know, something in

56:59

that world. All right, class. Now we

57:01

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57:03

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