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right, we welcome to the show our

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pal Chris Matthews the political commentator and

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author. He's followed the Democratic Party very

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closely I think he worked for Tip

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O'Neill at one point if I'm not

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mistaken Chris. Six years. Six years. Yeah,

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oh my god. And you wrote you

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wrote speeches for Jimmy Carter, right? That's

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right. Yeah, here you go. I did all

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that. And what do you well, what's next

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for the Democrats, Chris? Look,

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I don't care right now. I mean,

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I think anybody's talking about it.

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Right now, there's no election. What

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should they do? They should do

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anything. They should listen. But this is

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what democracy looks like. I should

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say that one thousand times. This

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is what democracy looks like. When

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you let all the people vote

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and they vote, you pay attention to

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what they say. They don't like the elite.

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They don't like the liberals. don't like

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talking about people getting surgery in prison

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paid for by the taxpayers they don't

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like a legal entry i knew all this stuff

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instead of all my friends and nobody wants

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to hear it they kept saying oh yeah

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but oh blah blah blah blah nobody wanted

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to hear what the people were saying and

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they and they and I'm not sure they're

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willing to hear it now they'll make excuses

1:40

and say well we tried to make a compromise

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I said yeah in the fourth year you try

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to make a compromise what were you doing for

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four years why did you let you let you

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let X many people because why did you

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do this? Why did you talk about

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sexual gender transfer transitions during

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prison paid for by the

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taxpayer? Why are you talking

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about boys? competing in girls score

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scores. Why do you keep doing

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this? Why do you keep doing

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this? What's your motive? Now clearly

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they did to get the Hispanic

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vote. They said we're going to

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let people in a country illegally

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because the Hispanics will like that.

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Well they don't. They don't. It

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didn't work that way. They couldn't

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pander. They wouldn't pander enough. It's

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unbelievable. I mean why did they

2:24

try to get by another sodium

2:26

penithol and said why did you

2:28

open the border? I'm following the

2:30

law. Well, you're running for president.

2:32

You're making the law. You're going

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to come up with the law.

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Don't say you're following the law

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on surgery during prison. You should

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say what I'm going to do.

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I mean, it was all wreckage.

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And I think the people are

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just sick of it. And I

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mean, I walked around Northeast Philly.

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I walked around, written house square

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in Philly, and everybody in their

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bubble. And the concern about was

2:57

the bubble too, but I mean,

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it's just people don't don't listen

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to anybody. And now they're going

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to have to listen, I think.

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And I didn't like her speech

3:07

yesterday entirely because I think she

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was talking about running for re-election

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or something. I sent in it

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that she was still running. And

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that's not what he's supposed to

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say in a concession speech. She's

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supposed to say, it's over, I

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lost. Chris,

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I heard you say that Democrats just don't

3:25

know how people think. I mean, why is

3:27

there such a disconnect? Well, suppose you're driving

3:30

a truck and your kids are going to

3:32

end up, if they're lucky, getting a job

3:34

in a union and driving a truck. What

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do you think about somebody from Yale, knocking

3:38

on your door? Some guy says up from

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Yale, and I'm here to tell you how

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to vote. through me, you can say what

3:45

you want, but you probably don't warm to

3:47

that guy. And all these rich college kids

3:49

came into Pennsylvania this last several weeks, all

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camping, door to door. I hope they said

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they went to temple. Instead they went to

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Yale. I mean, I don't know if they

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did. I don't know if they even know

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how people react to them, the privileged kids,

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who parents paid 80,000 a year to get

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them to college. Oh yeah. They don't get

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it because they don't want to get it.

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The liberals do not want to be acknowledged

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that they're hated. They don't want to be

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known that way. And there's talk show stuff.

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It's maddening. You know, you can't get anything

4:18

straight on Fox, you can't anything straight on

4:20

other shows. Everybody's selling their own story. And

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the story is not the American story. The

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American story was told on elections, how people

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voted. You know, a guy, Matt Cartwright, lost

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up in Scranton, Susan Wob, lost in Lehigh

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Valley. A Bucks County went for Trump. Got

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the message? Yeah, you paid the message. Yeah,

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I think it's loud and clear. I mean,

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I got a bunch of family members, I

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don't even talk to, because I don't even

4:42

talk to, because I know. What their position

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is, they didn't go to college, their kids

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aren't going to college, and they don't want

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to, they don't want to hear from someone

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like me. And I've known this a long

4:53

time. And maybe I got a conservative bone

4:55

in me, but I definitely understand the attitude.

4:57

And it's the attitude of, screw you. Right.

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And I, the only guy I think is

5:01

Federman seems to understand the wild costumes he

5:03

wears, the hoodie and all that stuff. He

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seems to get it, not that he's got

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the whole truth at the whole truth at

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all truth at all, at all, but, but.

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He seems to understand don't act like some

5:14

some Princeton whatever type and walk around and

5:17

expect people to like you. You got to

5:19

start looking and feeling and dressing a little

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bit more like the people. He doesn't outrageously,

5:23

but he seems to get it. I thought

5:25

shared Brown the too. He went to Yale,

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but he talks like he's got, you know,

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gargle in his mouth. You know, he, he,

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rah, rah, rah, rah, rah. You know, orchard

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people, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

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blah, blah I didn't work with Kim Ryan

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two years ago in Ohio. Those states are

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shut down for Democrats. You know, Chris. Bobby

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Casey lost. Well, that'll tell you something. Yeah,

5:58

Chris, you know, they said on Morning Joe

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the other day, Pennsylvania is a John Wayne

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state, not a Jane Fonda state. Got it?

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Whoa, good line, good line. Hey, Chris, one.

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John Wayne state, not a James Fonda. No,

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it's good. It's good. It's good. It's good.

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Democrats don't want to hear that. They don't

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get it. You know, Chris, we like John

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Wayne. Chris, hang on Chris, Chris, Chris is,

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Chris is delivering a bottle log. Michael's got

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a question for you. Chris, I know he

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loves the old movies, but you know, some,

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I have a lot of friends in the

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liberal bubble that you do too. My friends

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are within New York Times and other places

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in Hollywood and whatnot. They're all telling me,

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you know what the problem is? This country

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is racist and all the people who voted

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for Trump are racist and stupid and that's

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why we lost and they have come to

6:42

double down on the hatred for the Trump

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supporters. Yeah, I don't do it. I don't

6:46

get them through the night. move over because

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I don't think anybody wants you to do

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that. And clearly gender and race all matter.

6:53

They're all part of our thinking, but they're

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us. They're all part of our thinking. There's

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no doubt that because 50 years to let

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women vote, not until the 1920, after giving

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at least technical beliefs to black people, they

7:04

get to vote in 1865, and there was

7:06

a long struggle for that one. I know

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my brother, my brother's daughter told me before

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Kamala got the nomination, that he would never

7:12

vote for a woman. So it's out there,

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it's clearly part of our thinking, and in

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the Puerto Rican community and every community, it's

7:19

there, okay, so you put that in the

7:21

mix and you run a woman, a black

7:23

community. and you you make

7:25

a point of this, well that's

7:28

how you're playing the

7:30

game. Is that how

7:32

you're doing it? It's

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one of the factors

7:36

that you have to

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live with. Yeah, I

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don't know what percentage

7:43

it was Yep. very

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hard even know what any it

7:47

was. say how much

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it was to them.

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right, Chris Matthews got

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All a good Chris Matthews got

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to run. good too. All

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right. Thanks, Chris. Take

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