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It is the dreaded R word and an
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organisation's worst kept secret.
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I'm talking of course about restructures.
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If you've ever worked in any
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business of any size, you'll likely
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have experienced one yourself. Maybe you were impacted or a friend
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or family member was impacted.
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Maybe nothing changed for you. Maybe you got a new leader.
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Perhaps you joined a new team, or
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maybe you even took a redundancy.
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The thing is restructures are
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like air conditioning or printers.
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They're not a new thing. They've been around a really
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long time, and yet we still
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can't seem to get them to work.
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And while communicators can't solve all
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the problems inherent in how businesses
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manage restructures, we can do our part to
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make the transition as smooth as possible.
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How? Well, that's what today's
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episode is all about.
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Hello, friend, and welcome to a
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new episode of Less Chatter More
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Matter, the communications podcast. I'm Mel Loy, your host, and I'm recording
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this on the lands of the Yuggera and
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Turrbal people here in Meanjin, Brisbane.
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And today we're going to focus on the
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role of communications in restructures,
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or at least what our role should be.
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And the reason we're focusing on
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that is that I have worked on so many
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restructures in my career and for
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some reason ... organisations just
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can't seem to get them right when it
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comes to the change and comms work.
1:27
I wrote about this on LinkedIn a
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couple of weeks ago and the post
1:30
blew up, so I took that as a sign
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that we should talk about this more.
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So first, let's start with some of the
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common reasons why restructures fail.
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And in my experience,
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there's six key reasons.
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The first is that there is
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zero co-creation happening.
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Senior leaders make decisions or they
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bring in consultants to make decisions on
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how the organisation should be structured.
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But it's their view of
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the world from up high.
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They don't get the input from
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the team members at the coalface
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actually doing the work. And when you have no skin in the
2:00
game and no sense of control, it's
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really hard to accept the change.
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I want to make a point here
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though, in Australia, at least
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when changes like these happen. Uh, leaders do have to do consultation
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with teams who are impacted by
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the proposed structure; but the
2:15
thing is, consultation is not
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the same thing as co-creation. Consultation tends to happen once the
2:21
structure has already been decided.
2:26
At best, they might take on some feedback
2:26
at worst and pretty commonly it's simply
2:31
just a tick box exercise and they go
2:31
ahead and do what they want anyway.
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Number two, turf wars. I have seen C-Suite leaders get so
2:38
precious about their realm of control.
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They don't want to give up
2:42
anything they currently control.
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So rather than make decisions that are
2:45
in the best interest of the business
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or the team members, they just make
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decisions based on their own egos
2:53
and their perceived level of power. And that just creates more discord
2:55
at the highest levels, which of
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course trickles down to team members. Number three, really poor communication.
3:04
It's communication that's insensitive,
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sometimes it's deceptive, it's unclear...
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it's delivered in a way that's not
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the right channel or the right voice
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for the people that it's going to. I've literally experienced restructures
3:16
where we were told that if our name
3:20
didn't appear on the org chart,
3:20
we were in the redeployment pool.
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Like seriously, what the hell? Number four.
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The impact of the change
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is underestimated.
3:30
The work wasn't really done to
3:30
understand the impact on people,
3:34
teams, and ways of working. So when the restructure actually
3:36
happens, people suddenly realise
3:40
the support they once had within
3:40
the business has evaporated
3:43
overnight, or it's severely reduced.
3:45
And then you have these shadow roles
3:45
that pop up in different areas of the
3:49
business, and you're back to where
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you started a decentralized model.
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I've seen this happen before, but
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there are ways to work with this, but
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we will save that for another episode. The fifth common reason
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is a lack of flexibility.
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So there seems to be this idea that
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once the structure is in place,
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there can be no further changes. That's it. But the reality is your business
4:09
landscape will continue to change.
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So your structure needs to be flexible
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enough to keep evolving as well.
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And sometimes it's not until that
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new structure is in place that people
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realise it's not actually working.
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So there almost needs to be like a bit
4:23
of a probation or experimentation period.
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And the sixth reason, poor leadership. This is where we see leaders making
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decisions, then back flipping on
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those decisions, sometimes multiple
4:34
times, or making decisions that are
4:37
pretty rash and emotional rather
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than slower, but well thought out.
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Now, I'm sure there's plenty more you
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could add to this list here, but they're
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my top six, so they're the challenges.
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What role can communications play
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in helping to mitigate some of them?
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If not, address 'em entirely. There's five things communicators
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should do when supporting
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restructures, so let's go through them. Number one.
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Call it what it is. Stop using stupid jargon, right sizing,
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downsizing, reorganising, optimising,
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whatever you're trying to call it. Just stop it. People are not stupid.
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And if you want to get people on side
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during a restructure, then you need
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to follow those three principles of
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change, communication, transparency,
5:20
thoughtfulness, and timeliness. I remember once, many years
5:22
ago in a corporate job.
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The C-Suite brought in one of the big
5:25
four consulting firms to help with a
5:29
restructure, and they called it the
5:29
Business Improvement Program, or bip, BIP.
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Now, apart from the fact that we
5:34
all knew they were just trying to
5:37
put lipstick on a peak here, BIP
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became a verb in and of itself.
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So for example, if your
5:41
team was being restructured.
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We called it getting bi. It was not a great look for that change.
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So when you're transparent and timely
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and thoughtful, you help to build trust.
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It's that trust that is going to
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make the path smoother, even for
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people who are negatively impacted. Being transparent means not hiding behind
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the corporate speak and the weasel words,
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and simply being open, honest, and clear.
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It's also about using concrete
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rather than abstract language.
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Concrete language means it's super clear
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and interestingly through the research
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they found that concrete language can
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improve, recall audience satisfaction, and
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improve the credibility of the messenger.
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If you use abstract language, that's
6:24
words like anticipate, or we believe, et
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cetera, all you do is erode trust With
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that language, people can see through it
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and begin wondering what you're hiding. So if you are responsible for
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communications to support a restructure
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or you're coaching others, and
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encourage them to stop hiding behind
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the jargon and be really clear and
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call it what it is, a restructure.
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Now, number two, like I said earlier,
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many times the consultation undertaken
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by leaders in HR is little more than
6:54
a tick box exercise designed to give
6:59
the impression that they give a damn. So they go out, they talk to teams,
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they share the proposed structure,
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ask for feedback, nod wisely, and
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then go away and ignore everything.
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Now imagine being the team member in
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that situation and wondering why you
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bothered wasting your time and energy,
7:13
giving feedback if it wasn't listened to.
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And apart from feeling pretty
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exasperated, it would also give the
7:20
impression that the leaders who hold
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your job in their hands don't care.
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And again, that's not a great basis for
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a smooth transition to a new structure.
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So as comms pros, even if you can't
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control the consultation itself,
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you can try and influence it. So for example.
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In your draft comms strategy and
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plan, demonstrate how leaders
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will need to communicate before,
7:41
during, and after consultation.
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And that includes things like sharing
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the key themes that came through during
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consultation, what was taken on board and
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why, what wasn't taken on board and why.
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And provide multiple ways for
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people to ask questions and share
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feedback and multiple ways to share
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those inputs and the responses.
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So for example, an intranet page with
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all the questions and responses, and
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keep it anonymous if you need to. If you can do this before,
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that's the co-creation piece.
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That's the piece that helps to
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influence the proposed structure before
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anybody sees a proposed structure.
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One of the things you can do, which, uh,
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we're doing with a client, uh, at the
8:20
moment, we implement them about six months
8:20
ago, and they're going really well, are
8:23
holding these, ask us anything sessions.
8:26
They've been invaluable. So basically people are able to
8:27
submit their questions anonymously
8:31
just through a Microsoft form. And then every month
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we have these sessions. They're 30 minutes.
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Just held on Teams, and the senior
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leaders then answer those questions,
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live one by one, and they can also take
8:39
other questions during the session.
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Now, the benefit of doing it this way is
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that people know that there's gonna be
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this outlet to ask questions, but also as
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a communicator, you get this really good
8:52
sense of what's on people's minds, where
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you need to be clearer with your messaging
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or where the gaps are in the messaging.
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And it can also show leaders
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that they need to step up.
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But that's a story for another day. So that's the second tip.
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Demonstrate how feedback
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is being listened to.
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Now, the third one is
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communicate with empathy.
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As I said earlier, there's
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those three T's of trust for
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transparent, thoughtful, and timely.
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Thoughtful is what we're talking about
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here, and that means a few things.
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First of all, as I said, empathy,
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remember, you are talking to humans,
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not robots, and humans have feelings.
9:30
And during a restructure they'll
9:30
have a lot of them and they could
9:34
be very valid feelings as well. I've heard leaders say things
9:37
like, it's not personal, it's
9:40
business when communicating that
9:40
someone's job is on the line.
9:43
Well, sorry mate, but that's
9:43
pretty personal for that person.
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Or I've also heard, I hate
9:46
having these conversations.
9:49
I feel awful. Yeah, well, the person you are
9:50
talking to probably feels worse.
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Leaders often need communication
9:54
coaching, not just understanding
9:58
what their HR obligations are. When they're leading a restructure.
10:02
So instead of making it about
10:02
them, they need to focus on
10:05
how the team member feels. It means asking how they're
10:06
feeling, asking what they need,
10:10
what questions they want answered. And in doing that they need to
10:12
be okay with not always having
10:15
the answers because you won't. But leaders can commit to finding
10:17
the answers for their people.
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The other part of being thoughtful
10:22
is tailoring the communication to the
10:26
individual and the teams involved. There is no one size fits all approach and
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a blanket email just ain't gonna cut it.
10:33
Individual conversations need to
10:33
be tailored for each individual, so
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if they're a person who needs time
10:36
to process before asking questions.
10:40
Give them that option if they're
10:40
likely to ask a lot of questions.
10:44
Be prepared for that. Have lots of detail.
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Uh, some people need to talk through
10:46
a role or structures others need that.
10:50
Visual leaders should know their
10:50
team members' communications
10:53
preferences, and tailor accordingly.
10:56
Now, that doesn't mean they should stray from the message. The essence of what's
10:58
being said is the same.
11:01
It's consistent across the organisation,
11:01
and the focus is on that clarity.
11:06
But the way the message is given will
11:06
change depending on who the audience is.
11:11
So that's number three. Communicate with empathy.
11:15
Number four, be clear on
11:15
the impacts in any change.
11:20
People crave certainty. We love the status quo.
11:23
We love a feeling of control. We are more likely to go for a sure bet
11:25
than an uncertain outcome, even if the
11:30
uncertain outcome could be better for us.
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What that means is we can't. Provide certainty.
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And so people become fearful. And when people become fearful, they
11:38
become defensive, resentful, and upset.
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So where possible, we need to get
11:44
really clear on the change impacts.
11:47
As communicators, we need to work with
11:47
the relevant stakeholders to find out,
11:51
well, what is changing for each team? Apart from the structure, it could
11:54
be the work they do, where they'll
11:57
be located, who they'll report
11:57
to, the tools they use, and so on.
12:01
That very granular impact information
12:01
has to happen because we need
12:06
to make sure the message is as
12:06
certain as possible, and it's also
12:10
about asking what's not changing.
12:12
Now, if you've been following me for
12:12
a while, you'll know that this is
12:15
one of my top tips in change comms;
12:15
talk about what is staying the same.
12:19
It helps to anchor people to
12:19
something solid, something.
12:23
Like the status quo. That gives them some relief.
12:26
So again, ask what's not changing?
12:29
It could be their leader stays the
12:29
same, the tools they use aren't
12:32
changing, their location, their
12:32
internal clients, whatever it is.
12:35
Be really clear on both what's
12:35
changing and what's not changing,
12:39
and also what's still unknown. That high level of clarity and
12:41
transparency, people will thank you for.
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Okay. The fifth tip, well, this is
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the one that everyone always
12:52
forgets about the communication
12:52
after the structure is launched.
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What tends to happen is we go, today's the
12:57
day our new structure comes into effect.
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Yay. And then carry on. The problem though is that people
13:03
are then left wondering, well,
13:07
who do I go to about what now? So for example, I used to go to Jane
13:09
in IT to help with this particular
13:12
platform, but Jane isn't there anymore. Who do I go to?
13:15
Or I used to have a dedicated
13:15
communications manager working with
13:18
my team, but now we have to share
13:18
that resource with three other teams.
13:23
So there's a little bit of stakeholder
13:23
mapping that leaders will need to do
13:26
here alongside the communication they
13:26
need to figure out... who their new
13:30
stakeholders are in the business, set
13:30
up conversations to build relationships.
13:35
They need to be clear on the services
13:35
they offer and don't offer anymore,
13:38
and they need to find out who their
13:38
key supporters are in the organisation
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if they have changed, and communicate
13:42
that to their team members too.
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This also plays into what I said
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earlier, that we need to treat a
13:50
new structure as a test or as an
13:50
experiment, not a fixed construct.
13:56
This is the probation period where
13:56
you'll find out what's working and
13:59
what's not with the new structure,
13:59
and you'll tweak it accordingly.
14:02
That flexibility has to be built into the
14:02
project, but also communicated broadly.
14:07
And like I said earlier,
14:07
you need to show that you're
14:10
listening to that feedback too. And my final tip, it's
14:13
short, but it's sweet.
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Remember, you cannot communicate
14:15
your way out of poor leadership.
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If leaders keep flip flopping between
14:19
decisions, they aren't clear on
14:23
what's changing and what's not, why
14:23
we're changing in the first place.
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Our role is to advise them about
14:27
the risks to their reputation.
14:31
We can't just rub a bit of comms on
14:31
it and make everything seem okay.
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When the reality is chaos,
14:34
people see through it.
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And oftentimes it's enough just to
14:38
mention the words reputation damage to
14:43
them to actually get them to listen. Alrighty, it is time
14:46
for your episode recap.
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So today we focused on all things
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restructures because they are
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a hot mess most of the time. We talked about some of the common
14:54
issues, including lack of co-creation.
14:58
So this means that the consultation
14:58
happens after the structures
15:01
have already been decided. Don't get me wrong.
15:04
Senior leaders do need to look at the
15:04
business regularly and ask if it's
15:07
set up properly for the future and
15:07
make decisions about the strategic
15:10
direction and what a structure could
15:10
look like to help achieve that.
15:14
But they're usually too far removed
15:14
from the coalface to really understand
15:18
what every team contributes to the work.
15:21
Two turf wars happen where leaders worry
15:21
more about power and responsibility
15:26
instead of worrying about is
15:26
the business set up for success?
15:30
A third challenge, really poor
15:30
communication that can be insensitive,
15:33
unclear, deceptive, or managed in
15:33
the wrong way by the wrong people.
15:39
Fourth, the impact of the change is
15:39
underestimated because nobody's bothered
15:43
to do an in-depth impact assessment,
15:43
and that comes back to bite the
15:47
organisation later when they realise
15:47
they don't have the skills and resources
15:51
they used to have and that they need. Lack of flexibility in the structure.
15:55
It's a my way or the highway kind of
15:55
scenario, rather than taking it as
16:00
a test and learn process and making
16:00
sure it's really set up to be able
16:04
to adapt again in the future as
16:04
the business environment changes.
16:08
Number six, poor leadership leaders
16:08
are not walking the talk, not taking
16:12
responsibility for their role, making
16:12
poor decisions or constantly changing
16:16
decisions that have been made and so on. So then I shared five things
16:19
communicators could do to help
16:22
mitigate some of these issues. And the first is ditch the
16:24
jargon in all your comms.
16:27
Call it what it is. It's a restructure.
16:29
People will see through you when
16:29
you try to use any other language,
16:33
and it doesn't help you build a
16:33
sense of trust from your audience.
16:36
They will appreciate the clarity. Number two, demonstrate how feedback has
16:38
been listened to show that consultation
16:43
was more than a tick box exercise
16:43
and share the feedback received.
16:48
Talk about what's been taken on
16:48
board and why, what hasn't, and why.
16:52
And this helps us to ensure that
16:52
sense of transparency, but also that
16:56
everybody's voices are valuable.
17:00
Number three, communicate with empathy.
17:02
Remember, we are talking to humans,
17:02
not robots, and they'll have a lot
17:06
of feelings during a restructure. Make the communication
17:08
about them, not about you.
17:12
Number four, be clear on the
17:12
impacts, what's changing,
17:15
but also what's not changing. Talking about what's not changing
17:17
helps people to anchor to something
17:21
while being clear on what is changing
17:21
helps to alleviate some uncertainty.
17:26
And number five, keep communicating. After the structure launches, talk
17:27
about what's working, what's not.
17:31
Encourage two-way communication from
17:31
leaders and demonstrate that you are
17:36
an adaptable, flexible organisation.
17:39
And of course the bonus tip was
17:39
remember, you can't comms your
17:42
way out of poor leadership. Use the words reputation
17:44
damage and see what happens.
17:48
Okay, that's all for this week's episode. But before you go, I have two more
17:49
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17:53
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Thanks again for tuning in. Keep doing amazing things and bye for now.
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