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Imagine this, you are just about
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to finish rolling out a big piece
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of comms work, maybe a campaign
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or a big change project piece.
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And at the same time you have about
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three other projects or campaigns in the
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pipeline or already underway, along with
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other random requests and the unexpected
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fires that need to be put out every day.
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So as you hit publish on that last piece
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of campaign comms, your attention is
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immediately drawn to something else.
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And any thoughts of measuring
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your success are out the window.
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Then, about two months later, the
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CEO announces a restructure, and
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that because of budget constraints,
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there will be mass redundancies.
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First head on the chopping block?
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Communications. And you find yourself thinking, why
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don't they see the value of what we
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do, especially in times like these? That, my friend, is one of the big risks
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we take when we don't take the time to
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measure and report on our communication.
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So, how do you even start with measuring
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and then showcasing that measurement?
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That's what today's episode is all about.
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Hi friend, and welcome to this week's
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episode of Less Chatter, More Matter.
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I'm your host, Mel Loy, and I'm
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recording this on the lands of the
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Yuggera and Turrbal people here in
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Meanjin, also known as Brisbane.
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If the intro to today's episode
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resonated with you in any way, you are
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in the right place at the right time.
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As comms and change professionals, or
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even project managers and team leaders,
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we know that measurement is important. So why aren't we doing it?
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Well, when you are a busy comms
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team or a solo operator, it's often
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hard to find the time to measure
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and report on your communication.
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We go from one thing to the next, to the
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next, and so on, with little time to stop
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and take a breath, let alone measure.
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And yet, it's often to our detriment. I think another reason we don't measure
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and report as much as we should is
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simply because we don't know how.
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It can be really challenging to figure
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out what and how to measure and then
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how to present it in a compelling
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way back to other stakeholders.
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So in today's episode, I'm
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going to make it easier for you.
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We're going to start with
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understanding why we measure
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and report in the first place. And then I'm going to share a
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process with you to help you do that.
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So let's get into it. Let's start with the why.
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If you are wondering why you should
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spend the time measuring reporting, or
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you're trying to convince others why
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they should, there's two big reasons.
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Number one, you need to demonstrate your
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value to your business stakeholders.
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If you want to be seen as more than
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a copywriting monkey or someone
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who just produces pretty PowerPoint
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packs, then you need to show that you
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contribute to achieving business goals.
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That you're helping your
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stakeholders achieve the things
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that are important to them. And you can't do that if you can't
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demonstrate where you've made
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a difference and the value that
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your work adds to the business.
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The second reason why is because
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if you want to be effective as a
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professional communicator, then we
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need to stay on top of our game.
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Measurement helps us identify
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trends, things that are working
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well that we should keep doing more
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of, or things that aren't working
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well that we should stop or change. It's all about continuous improvement.
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Externally, identifying trends
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helps us stay relevant and
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ahead of our competitors. And internally, we're able to respond to
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the needs of employees really quickly,
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making sure we're delivering what they
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need and contributing to engagement.
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The best performing comms teams
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are the teams who measure.
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Which brings us to the how.
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So these reasons why are all very
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compelling, but where do you start?
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So I'm going to take you
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through five steps to get this
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thing going in your business. And the first step is to start with
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the goals of the business, which
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hopefully you would have done in
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your annual planning anyway, but if
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not now is a great time to start.
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So in this step, you look at your
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business's strategic objectives or their
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goals, whatever they call it for the
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year, and then you develop communication
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goals that align to those business goals.
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So for example, if one of the business's
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goals is to grow and develop our
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workforce, your communication goals
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could be that you will contribute
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to building employee engagement
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and you will also promote your
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company as a great place to work. I mean, those are pretty vague, but you
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get the drift, and hopefully you'd be
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able to be much more specific than that. The point is, we don't make comms goals
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for the sake of it, and we don't do it
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in isolation of the rest of the business.
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If you want to show how you and your
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team add value to your organisation,
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then you need to show how you
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contribute to achieving its goals.
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In short, you need to be able to show
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that they cannot do it without you.
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That's what's important. Okay, so once you've developed your
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business aligned goals, the next step
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is to develop metrics that show whether
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or not you are achieving those goals.
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A big thing to note here with any
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measurement, whether that's just one
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campaign or project or for the entire
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team or the strategy is that you need
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to focus on impacts, not outputs.
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Now, what I mean by that is an output. is a thing that you do.
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It's your tasks. It's the tactics. So for example, you might produce
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monthly customer emails and
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you got a 25 percent open rate. You gained 50 followers on Instagram.
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You held five town halls. You had 200 people on
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average attend each one.
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That data isn't unimportant, but
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it doesn't demonstrate impact.
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So for example, Maybe 200 people on
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average attended those town halls,
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but did they leave feeling like they
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knew more than when they went in?
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Did they get inspired or
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motivated by being there?
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The attendance is only a
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very small part of the story.
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Or maybe you've achieved a great
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open rate on your emails, but did
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that convert to sales and therefore
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contribute to business profits?
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I've also seen KPIs for things like,
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you know, people have to produce one
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media release a week or a month or
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whatever, but so what the real measure
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should be on the impact of that work. So for example, did it shift
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public sentiment and help boost
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your company's reputation? Are you being recognised
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as thought leaders? And if so, are you becoming more
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appealing then to potential employees?
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So you can see where I'm going with this. Metrics have to be more
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than just a number. numbers and data.
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That stuff can be useful in
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understanding what's working well.
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So for example, a post with a picture
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of dogs in it got five times the amount
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of engagement than a post with people. So the insight might be you
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need to do more posts with dogs.
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But again, think of the
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impact of that work.
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So metrics might be, instead of just
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data points, it could be things like
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XX percent improvement in perception.
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of effectiveness of group communication.
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It could be a percentage of lead
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conversions through social media,
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paid advertising, uh, a percentage
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of requests for interviews with
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your nominated thought leaders. Um, more percentage of, Shareholders
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and investors who agree or strongly
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agree that they have confidence
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in the leadership of your company.
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All of those sorts of metrics are
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very clearly aligned to business goals
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and they can help show your impact. You might also be able to
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show financial contributions.
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So for example, have you saved the
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company money by spending less on
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paid media and focusing more on
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public relations and media activity?
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Has that activity contributed
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any dollars to the bottom line,
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like more inquiries to sales? And the great part about
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financial metrics is that they're
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important to your stakeholders. They are a common language among
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senior executives, whereas things
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like media sentiment might not be.
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Okay. So it's one thing to have those
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metrics, but you also need to have
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reliable, accurate, and a sustainable
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way to gather that data and feedback.
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So this is step three. It's deciding how to measure.
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Now, in some cases, you will already
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have established channels like regular
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internal and external surveys of staff
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and focus groups and whatnot, and you
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can absolutely leverage that information.
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But in other cases, you might need
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to use tools that measure sentiment.
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So it could be in the media, in
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social networks, for example.
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There's quite a few services out
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there that do that work, and a lot
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of it can be automated as well. Your measurement could also just be
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keeping old school records, like the
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number of requests for interviews
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you've had on a particular issue
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that your company is highlighting. And there's also insights you can
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draw from feedback on events like
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conferences, town halls, live
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streams, et cetera, et cetera.
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And again, harping back to my
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earlier point, just make sure you're
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asking questions that give you
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answers that demonstrate impact.
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So for example, an overall
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rating of how was this event
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doesn't tell you much on impact. But if you ask a question like, now that
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you've attended this event, how well
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informed do you feel about our strategy? Then you will get a response
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that's much more compelling.
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The qualifiable data where people
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leave comments is also a goldmine for
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measurement, especially if you ask a
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question like, What were the three key
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messages you took away from today's event?
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The responses to a question like that
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will help you understand what kind of
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impact you made or if you missed the mark.
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So you've got your goals and you've
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got your metrics aligned to those
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goals and you know how you're
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actually going to gather that data.
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The next step, step four, is to get
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yourself into the rhythm of reporting
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regularly to your internal stakeholders.
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Top tip, do not wait for them to ask
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you for it because they probably won't.
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You need to be proactive in this space
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and let them know you will be sending
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them a snapshot every fortnight or
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every month, whatever it might be.
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But creating this rhythm with our
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stakeholders is important because
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we often need a commitment to
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someone else in order for us to get
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into the habit of doing something. So think about who you
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will be reporting to.
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And there might be a regular
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internal report with your own team.
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Uh, there could be an external report with
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your key senior stakeholders, for example,
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because who the audience is will obviously
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influence when and how you report, but
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also what you include in those reports.
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Now, the good part about regular
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reporting is that you're able
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to build a story over time.
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So for example, we do quarterly reporting
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for one of our clients and we look at the
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data from their two main social channels,
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along with website data and their
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email direct marketing to the database. And because we've been doing that for
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a while now, we've been able to really
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demonstrate good progress over time,
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like growth in online followers and
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more importantly, growth and engagement
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on their social posts and reshares.
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And that kind of story
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continuously reinforces your value.
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Okay, the final step is to make
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sure you're reporting on all of
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this stuff effectively, and that
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means communicating effectively.
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As always, it starts with who the audience
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is and what you want them to know, feel,
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and do as a result of your reporting.
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So for example, if your audience
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is the executive leadership
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team, you know they're busy, so
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they won't read a long report.
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And also, you know, they're likely
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to be mostly interested in the
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metrics that impact their world
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or are about them individually.
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So your reporting needs to be short
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and effective and geared towards the
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things that are important to them. So for example, at my last corporate
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job, I looked after the internal comms
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for the CEO and each month I would send
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him a one page report, but it would
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focus on his channel specifically.
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So for example, he had a weekly
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email videos on the intranet, town
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hall feedback, et cetera, et cetera. He didn't need to know general stats
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about the intranet, for example.
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And quite honestly, he didn't care and nor should he. I would however, include a snapshot of
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topics that were trending internally and
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externally, so he could stay across that. And when you do bring in that
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sector or industry insight into
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your reporting, you're able to also
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demonstrate your business acumen.
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That is so powerful as a communicator,
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because it helps to show that not only
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do you understand the world your business
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operates in, but also that you're well
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positioned to be a strategic advisor.
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Now, if you're reporting to a bigger
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group than just one C suite executive,
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you could be a little more general, but
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I would still list the business goals and
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your measurement aligned to each of those
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to really make the point that you are
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contributing to this business's success.
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Other things to consider including are
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things like, as I said, business and
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industry insights, uh, trends you're
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noticing in your data, what's coming up
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that they need to be aware of and any
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recommendations or actions required.
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I would also have, and this, you know,
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either at the top of the report or
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in the cover email or paper, the top
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three key takeaways from your report.
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And that way, if they're super
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busy or they just can't be bothered
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reading your report, they will
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at least get the key messages.
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But again, make sure they
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focus on that business impact.
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And when it comes to actually designing
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the report, the more visual, the
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better, because A, it helps people
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get a quick and easy understanding
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of the outcomes you've achieved. But also, B, when it's a one
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page visual, execs lap that up.
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They carry it around with
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them to show other people.
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They put it on the wall. But it keeps you top of mind
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for all the right reasons.
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Okay, so that's measurement
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and reporting 101.
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It is time for your episode recap. So if you tuned out, now is an
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excellent time to rejoin us over here.
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So today's episode was all about
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how to measure and report on your
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communications and why that's
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important, even if you are super busy.
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The first reason why is that
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you want to demonstrate your
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value back to the business. And that way you become known more
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as a strategic, valuable advisor, not
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just a copywriter or PowerPoint guru.
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And that's a good thing because then
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you will be asked to do more strategic
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work and should the unthinkable
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happen and your team is at risk of
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being cut from the business, there
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will be more advocates for you.
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The second reason why is for continuous
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improvement because regular measurement
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and reporting helps us identify
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trends, opportunities to improve,
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to stop, to change or continue. In short, it helps us
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become better at our craft.
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We then talked through five steps
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to measurement and reporting.
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The first step is to develop comms goals
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that are aligned to business goals.
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So make sure you're focused
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on the things that matter.
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The second step is to develop
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metrics aligned to those goals.
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And remember, we want to be measuring
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impact, not just our output.
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Step three was to decide the
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best way to gather that data.
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So it's accurate, and it's
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timely, and it gives you insights
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that are actually helpful. Number four is to create a
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regular reporting rhythm with your
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stakeholders, and that could be within
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your team or externally as well.
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And that means you're committed
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to reporting even when it's
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busy, but also so you can tell
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a really good story over time.
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And the fifth step was to communicate
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that measurement effectively.
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So think about your audience. What do you know about them?
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What's of interest to them? What do you want them to know, feel
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and do when you share that report?
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Okay. That's all for today, folks. I hope you've gotten something
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out of this week's episode.
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And by the way, there is a
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sneaky template I've put together
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that may help you with this. And I'm not above a bit of bribery.
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So if you'd like that template,
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all I'm asking for is a rating
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and review of the podcast. And you can do that in your app of choice.
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Send me a screenshot. I'll send you a template.
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Simple. And I will also be including a
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bunch of new templates in another
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template pack we've been working on
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behind the scenes so make sure you
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head over to the website to the shop
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there and keep an eye out for that.
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As always you can stay tuned by following
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Hey Mel and myself on LinkedIn and
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sign up to our fortnightly email. All those links are in the show notes.
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In the meantime keep doing
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amazing things and bye for now.
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