0:00

we've been deeming as the esoteric

0:02

and the occult is pretty much

0:04

the science that we haven't yet

0:06

started practicing. I started having these

0:08

spontaneous astral projection experiences. So at

0:10

the time I was furiously writing

0:12

every single thing in coffee books

0:14

like this one. For years I've

0:16

kept a record of it like

0:18

a diary. And then

0:20

I started researching the

0:22

science. Over the course of my

0:24

experiences, I've also traveled to

0:26

societies that are a lot more

0:28

involved than us, and I've seen

0:31

society, the likes of which this society

0:33

is supposed to become. The goal

0:35

is what we see there in the

0:37

Astro Series of Life, to build

0:39

it here, as above so below. Today

0:52

my beautiful guest is Selma Hare

0:54

and boy is this a conversation

0:56

that goes down rabbit holes. She

0:58

has been having spontaneous astral

1:00

travels. She's been traveled interdimensionally

1:03

through portals. I mean this

1:05

conversation is deep. It's a

1:07

rabbit hole. It gets into

1:09

all sorts of stuff and

1:11

not only that she from

1:13

like she's got a science

1:15

background mind and she's been

1:18

documenting all of her experiences I think for

1:20

the last 10 years or something and we

1:22

get into an amazing conversation. I

1:25

think Selma is very courageous

1:27

in her sharing her experiences. She

1:29

certainly varies sincere and I

1:31

really like her and I had

1:33

this incredible conversation. I'm

1:35

always open to these conversations

1:37

purely based upon my own experiences.

1:40

If you follow my podcast for a

1:42

while you would have heard me speak

1:44

a little bit about my own experiences

1:46

through working through the energy center does

1:48

and then open in the pineal gland

1:51

and start to experience life beyond our

1:53

five senses that we tend to

1:55

do through 3D reality, I guess. It's

1:59

a rabbit hole. It's amazing. Yeah,

2:01

be sure to let me know in the

2:03

comments, especially if you're watching this on YouTube,

2:05

where you get out of this conversation. Have

2:07

you had experiences like this? Where are you

2:10

in the world? Continue to connect. I feel

2:12

there's some beautiful conversations that are happening in

2:14

the YouTube comments, and I certainly want to

2:16

encourage that. I do read them all. I

2:18

don't reply to everything. I've got a lot

2:20

going on in my life, but I certainly

2:22

do my best to up with it all

2:24

and of course if you want to find

2:26

out what we're up to and if you

2:28

want to work with the energy centers and

2:30

all the rest of it come and join

2:32

us somewhere or chakras I don't know whatever

2:34

terminology you want to call it amongst many

2:37

other things come and join us we'll be

2:39

holding retreats all around the world now and

2:41

of course here in Australia as well up

2:43

and down and we've also just introduced our

2:45

advanced for our workshop as well Anyway, links

2:47

below for Selma, for myself and everything. Get

2:49

amongst it. Much love from me. I hope

2:51

to meet you in person one day soon.

2:54

And yeah, enjoy. Selma,

2:57

welcome to the podcast. My lovely. Thank

3:00

you. Thank you very much. It's my

3:02

pleasure. I know it's really

3:04

early where you are, so I appreciate you

3:06

making the effort to get up early. I've

3:08

been in the similar role on the

3:10

other side sometimes with other guests. So I

3:12

know how it can feel sometimes, but

3:14

it's greatly appreciated. And I just want to

3:16

ask you the first question that I

3:18

ask everyone on the podcast. And that is

3:20

if we were at a intimate dinner

3:22

party right now and you sat next to

3:24

a complete stranger and they asked you

3:26

what you did for a living, how would

3:28

you respond? I

3:31

would say I'm

3:33

an educator. during

3:35

the day and a researcher

3:38

at night. What

3:40

do you educate in? I

3:43

educate secondary students in

3:45

geography, human geography, global

3:47

perspectives and research, oftentimes

3:49

in history as well,

3:51

because that's my actual

3:53

qualification in history and

3:55

archaeology. And

3:58

that's that. And as

4:00

for research, I research people. the

4:02

human evolution, human evolution,

4:04

where we came from, where

4:07

we're going, anthroposophy,

4:09

philosophy and

4:12

Gnosticism. What

4:14

was anthroposophy? What was that

4:16

word you just said? That's a

4:19

big word. It's

4:21

full of big words what I bring to

4:23

you today and in the beginning I too

4:25

kind of stumbled with a few of them.

4:29

Anthroposophy is the science

4:31

of spirituality. It

4:34

started

4:36

around the

4:40

century. And ever

4:42

since, it's been completely ignored

4:44

by people. But it's

4:46

there, by Rudolf Steiner at

4:48

the end of the

4:50

19th century, an Austrian philosopher

4:52

and the founder of

4:54

a spiritual science. But they

4:56

are more like him.

4:58

And I can tell you

5:00

why he started doing

5:03

this. Yeah, so

5:05

absolutely. So as we break it

5:07

down, because I know you've got

5:09

some pretty amazing experiences that I

5:11

want to dive into and get

5:13

you to share in a moment.

5:15

So would it be fair to

5:17

say that you've got quite an

5:19

analytical mind and coming from that

5:21

space before leaning into the spirituality

5:23

aspect? I do. I

5:25

have an incredibly scientifically oriented analytical mind.

5:27

For years I wanted to do

5:29

a PhD because I thought I'm a

5:31

scientist. I'm a scientist because I

5:34

have been the scientist in many past

5:36

lifetimes. Why am I not getting

5:38

a PhD in something? And then

5:40

it dawned on me when I

5:42

started having these spontaneous astral projection

5:44

experiences in the transition between 2011

5:46

and 2012. It dawned on me

5:48

because what I want to research

5:50

is not mainstream science. So I

5:52

cannot do it through the academic

5:55

realm. They'll tell me to take

5:57

a walk. But

5:59

I'm still a scientist, so I

6:01

still need to research it and write

6:03

it down, write down my

6:05

research. And so I did. So

6:07

at the time, I was furiously

6:09

writing every single thing in copy

6:12

books, in copy books like this

6:14

one, writing every single experience that

6:16

I was having furiously for years.

6:18

I've kept a record of it

6:20

like a diary. And

6:22

then I started researching

6:24

the science. Wow. So,

6:27

okay, there's two questions because this podcast

6:29

is going greatly organic, which I

6:31

love. And that is one of the

6:33

questions is, are you talking, you've

6:35

had lots and lots and lots of

6:37

these astral experiences? And

6:39

B, what was your

6:41

life like before 2011, 12,

6:44

before you started having them? Were you spiritually,

6:46

did you have a spiritual background? Were

6:48

you looking into this kind of stuff? I

6:51

was dreadful. My life

6:53

was dreadful. My parents, they'd

6:55

given me no spiritual cornerstone because they

6:57

were too young when they had

6:59

me and they were both way too

7:01

busy fighting their own, fighting their

7:04

own monsters. So

7:07

what happened is that

7:09

I wasn't exactly spiritual, but

7:11

from very early I

7:13

could see that I had

7:15

strange experiences on the

7:17

other side. It's just

7:19

that in 2011 it became very

7:21

profusive. At the time, I'd

7:23

been working as an archaeologist. I'd

7:26

been working for the National Museum of

7:28

Archaeology in Lisbon, and

7:30

then I'd gone to London for

7:33

my masters, and then

7:35

in archaeology. And then

7:37

after that, as soon as I

7:39

finished the Master's, it was the

7:41

2008 credit crunch, right? So there

7:43

are no jobs. There are no

7:45

jobs. I start teaching. That's exactly

7:47

how it happened. Luckily enough,

7:49

I wasn't bad at it. Luckily

7:51

enough for me, I'm a communicator.

7:53

So I also did a couple

7:55

of office jobs for a second,

7:57

which were the most miserable experience

7:59

of my life. And I said,

8:01

never again. I'm a communicator. I

8:04

like to talk, I like to research, I

8:06

like to convey. So let me teach. So

8:08

I was teaching when these experiences,

8:10

in Hong Kong, I was in

8:12

Hong Kong when these experiences started.

8:16

And they were so perfusive, sure.

8:19

Yeah, question before you get into

8:21

that. Did anything trigger those experiences

8:23

or did they just, you know,

8:25

started happening one day? To

8:28

this very day, I

8:30

feel like there was intervention from

8:32

the other side because I was so

8:34

miserable. I'm living in Hong Kong

8:37

and instead of having a blast, like

8:39

any other normal person, because it's

8:41

Hong Kong, it's busy, it's

8:43

cool, it's hip, but I'm not

8:45

into cool and hip and superficial. So

8:48

I was miserable. I was in

8:50

the wrong place. I was totally

8:52

misaligned with my life, doing the

8:54

wrong thing. I was surrounded by

8:56

people who... with

8:58

whom I had nothing in

9:01

common, going through these terrible

9:03

experiences. And

9:05

so I feel like there was intervention

9:07

from the other side. At one

9:09

point, someone on the other side may

9:11

have said, listen, this is

9:13

not working. She's totally misaligned. If

9:15

we don't give it, we have to give

9:18

this to her now to see if we can

9:20

push her into aligning herself into what she

9:22

has to do. But this is just my belief.

9:25

And when it comes to believe, you can

9:27

take it for what it is. You

9:29

can take it with a pinch of salt.

9:31

I don't bring you any empirical evidence

9:33

for any of what I'm here with, share.

9:35

So I'll tell people, take it with

9:38

a pinch of salt, OK? These are just

9:40

my experiences that I candidly share in

9:42

the hopes of starting a conversation about it.

9:44

Beautiful. And can you remember your first experience

9:47

and what you were doing in Hong

9:49

Kong at the time? Very well. And what

9:51

happened in that first experience? Very

9:54

well. I remember this one time

9:56

having a student in the morning,

9:58

early in the morning, she stop

10:00

singing. And she couldn't stop singing

10:02

some song that would go, you know, babble,

10:04

babble, babble, babble. And then she would say,

10:07

all is well, all is well, all

10:09

is well. And what is going on

10:11

with you today? Where did you get

10:13

that song from? A

10:15

movie that I watched in the

10:17

weekend. Sure enough, Saturday I

10:19

went and I... saturday came in

10:21

i went and i watched

10:23

the movie i don't remember the

10:26

name of the movie now

10:28

it was a bollywood movie and

10:30

with the catch song that

10:32

was exactly that this and that

10:34

and that all is well

10:36

all is well that same night

10:38

i went to bed and

10:40

i ended up eating something that

10:43

looked like an indian city

10:45

from the mogul period The Mongol

10:47

period was when the Islamic

10:49

caliphate came into India. And

10:51

it resulted in constructions like

10:53

the Taj Mahal, right? And

10:56

that's what it looked.

10:58

And I'm walking around, I'm

11:00

walking down this road

11:02

that is sided by these

11:05

wonderful, wonderful trees, gilded

11:07

by these trees and palm

11:09

trees, absolutely gorgeous road. Onwards,

11:12

in the direction of

11:14

this temple slash library. And

11:18

as I look at myself, I

11:20

have this really long braid

11:22

that I'm wearing to the side,

11:24

and I'm wearing something that

11:26

looks a bit like a futuristic

11:28

sari of some type. And

11:31

I go into that temple or

11:33

live, I see other people passing

11:35

by. I go into that temple

11:37

and library. And

11:39

I remember seeing this

11:42

bust of a god, an

11:44

Egyptian god, Anubis, by

11:46

the way, the god of mummification. I

11:49

turn it around and I remember

11:51

that I had written an article

11:53

about the bust of Anubis turning

11:55

around on its own axis at

11:57

the National Museum in Scotland, at

11:59

the History Museum in Scotland. And

12:02

so my brain went into

12:04

wanting to know why that

12:06

had happened. As soon as

12:08

I did that, I saw

12:10

the God Anubis right in

12:12

front of me looking very

12:14

authoritarian and he's asking me

12:16

for my name and I

12:18

said I I'm very naughty

12:20

so I could I wasn't

12:22

believing in the experience that

12:24

I was having so I

12:26

said not Maat

12:28

is the name of the goddess, the

12:31

celestial librarian, an Egyptian goddess. As

12:33

they've been saying, if you are a

12:35

Nubian, I am Maat. Like, this

12:37

is not happening. This is

12:39

how I am a bit on the other side.

12:41

So I also say, yeah, I'm an Egyptian goddess

12:43

too. Maat, and

12:45

he said, your real name.

12:48

And I'm like, oh, oh

12:50

dude, this experience is real.

12:52

But I said again, Maat,

12:54

and he says, Selma. And

12:56

I woke up. This

13:00

was my first very lucid experience.

13:02

Now I know that this was

13:04

an astral city. Wow.

13:09

So a question for you. Like,

13:11

because everyone's listening to this now and

13:13

they could go, well, how does

13:15

that feel? How does that, when

13:17

you're experiencing that, did it seem just

13:19

like a dream or does it feel like

13:21

you're there? And when you come back,

13:24

do you feel yourself going in and out

13:26

of the body? Like, how would you

13:28

describe it? It feels

13:30

more real than this reality

13:32

here. And this is the mind

13:34

-bender because this reality is physical.

13:36

Look, my notes, my

13:38

pen. It's physical, so this

13:40

should feel more real for us.

13:43

But when it's that lucid, when

13:45

the experience is that organic, you

13:47

can smell the smells. And

13:49

just your sense of awareness is

13:51

so much more acute than what it

13:53

is here. Because out

13:55

there you don't function only

13:57

with your five senses. Out

13:59

there you also communicate through

14:01

telepathy. So you function with all

14:04

of these other senses that

14:06

here you don't have. So

14:08

the experience feels actually a lot more

14:10

real and organic there. then it feels

14:12

here. And this is a mind bender.

14:14

This is something that then you need

14:16

help with processing this. Because how do

14:18

you wake up Monday morning and go

14:20

back to your job after having had

14:23

experiences that feel like they are more

14:25

real than this reality where you pay

14:27

the taxes and you go to work

14:29

and whatever, pay the rent, whatever, whatever.

14:31

You see what I mean? I

14:33

do. I ended up starting

14:35

a podcast wondering what to do with

14:37

some of those experiences myself. There

14:40

you go. 350 episodes

14:42

later. You

14:44

know, it's it's fascinating. So

14:47

I'm curious to know then what

14:49

did you once you had that

14:51

experience? And this was 2011

14:53

and 12. What did you do

14:55

that you're still in Hong Kong? Did

14:58

they start happening like

15:00

frequently? Or was that a one off at

15:02

first? What happened? I

15:05

packed up. I packed up and

15:07

went home to Portugal. And

15:10

then it was incredibly

15:12

profusive. And Portugal, let me

15:14

tell you, because it's

15:16

mostly coastline, and water has

15:18

a very cleansing. I've

15:22

come to understand that in places where there's

15:24

a lot of water, because water is cleansing,

15:26

the veil is also thinner. Let

15:28

me tell you something about Portugal,

15:30

especially around the coast. The

15:32

veil is incredibly thin. And so

15:34

all of a sudden, I'm

15:36

plugged in. I'm plugged into the

15:38

quantum and every single night

15:40

I have something which I describe

15:42

as the window series. And

15:45

in my book I write a chapter

15:47

called the science behind the window series.

15:49

I want to understand what's happening to

15:51

me. That's why I wrote it, which

15:53

is I would stand up, I would

15:56

look at the bed and I would

15:58

see my body. You fall asleep, right?

16:00

I'd fall asleep. Then I would stand

16:02

up. look at the bed, see my

16:04

body, look at the window, open the

16:06

window and fly off. This

16:08

was always my process. Not

16:11

before, sometimes crossing over some

16:13

spirit, some stuck consciousness, this

16:15

biker who had just died,

16:17

the girl at one point,

16:19

this man. You

16:21

were seeing them? They were coming up to

16:23

you? Yes, they were

16:25

just there. They were just there

16:27

and very confused. At this point,

16:30

I was living right in

16:32

front of this beach, but between myself

16:34

and the beach, there was a busy

16:36

road. So at this point, I

16:38

saw a biker that had just had an accident

16:40

covered with blood and is very confused like

16:42

what happened. And I'm like, but at

16:45

that point, I was already used to it. I

16:47

was like, yes, so you're here,

16:50

but you're not. But I was very

16:52

inexperienced crossing over spirit because these

16:54

were the first times that it was

16:56

happened to me. Okay, so. You

16:59

just had an accident, you

17:01

need to see the light. And I'm

17:03

thinking, I think this is what I'm supposed to

17:05

say. You need to go and see the light. So

17:07

in the beginning it was very clumsy because I

17:09

didn't know what to do to cross these people over.

17:12

But then later, this one girl

17:14

taught me how to cross over.

17:16

This one girl who kept pestering

17:18

me every single night. She would

17:20

pester me as if I'd stolen

17:22

her boyfriend. He was a teenage

17:24

girl. And there's a

17:26

reason why I'm saying this. She passed

17:28

away and she's pestering me every night

17:30

until this one fine night I told

17:32

her, you need to stop. I'm

17:34

so sorry. I'm sorry about what happened

17:37

to you. I'm sorry. So

17:39

there was something, there was

17:41

resentment related to women that

17:43

she had, something that a

17:46

boy had done to her.

17:48

And she resented people in

17:50

general, but there was also

17:52

a jealousy of women. And

17:54

I just told her, I am

17:56

sorry, I am so sorry, and I'm

17:58

crying, and I hug her.

18:01

But the first time I said I'm

18:03

so sorry about what happened to you,

18:05

she completely melted, and her

18:07

energy completely shifted from very dark

18:09

to light, light blue. And

18:11

I managed to cross her over

18:14

to an international city that

18:16

is above Portugal. So

18:19

question, you're opening lots

18:21

of loops. So what is stopping

18:23

them from crossing over? No, that's great.

18:25

This is what podcast for me is

18:27

all about. I love it. Consciousness

18:30

can get stuck for several

18:33

reasons. Most of them connected

18:35

to negative emotions. The

18:37

main reason is people not understanding that they've

18:39

dropped the body. And

18:42

the second reason is being so

18:45

dense in vibration that they cannot

18:47

see. There are light mentors that

18:49

are right next to them. Light

18:51

mentors are also what people

18:54

call guardian angels, right? People call

18:56

them spirit guys or guardian

18:58

angels. So when I say, when

19:00

I talk about light mentors,

19:02

that's what I'm talking about. So

19:04

they are so dense in

19:06

vibration, be it because of sadness,

19:09

anger. resentment, whatever negative

19:11

emotion that really makes them so dense

19:13

that they can't even see their

19:15

guides or their light mentors next to

19:17

them trying to cross them over

19:19

to the other side. Consciousness

19:22

can get stuck on this earth

19:24

for years, for decades even,

19:26

but usually also what happens, and it's

19:28

worse than getting stuck here, is

19:30

the dense and so much that you

19:32

end up in the umbra. But

19:36

that's a whole other nine yards. And

19:38

I don't know whether you want me to go there in

19:40

the Umbra. So

19:43

between this

19:45

planet, between the surface

19:47

of the Earth, the crust

19:49

of the Earth, and the astral

19:51

and space, you have

19:53

some spiritualists or anthropophists call

19:55

it the Umbra. All of that

19:57

is the Umbra, which is

20:00

the fourth dimension. Like the

20:02

collective consciousness thought, would that

20:04

be? It's

20:06

there the collective consciousness thought is also

20:08

there. It's the fourth dimension It's

20:10

a layer between the earth and space

20:12

where you have the stratosphere atmosphere

20:14

all of that all of that After

20:17

all of that you have the

20:19

fourth dimension and that's the umbra The

20:21

upper part of the umbra the

20:23

upper part of the fourth dimension is

20:25

where the astral cities of light

20:27

start is where people if everything goes

20:29

right go to after they drop

20:31

the body what the religious people call

20:34

the sky, or heaven, call heaven,

20:36

what the religious people call heaven. Emmanuel

20:39

Swedenborg would speak of several

20:41

heavens and several hells. He was

20:43

on to something. And

20:46

that's where you see the

20:48

astral cities at the edge of

20:50

the fourth dimension. And

20:52

then 56, 7, 8, 9, you

20:54

have astral cities all over those dimensions

20:56

upwards that are lighter in dimension, right?

20:58

But it starts at the edge of

21:01

the fourth dimension. The

21:03

lower part of the fourth dimension that

21:05

we call the Ambra, but in fact

21:07

all of it is the Ambra, because

21:09

Ambra just means threshold, what

21:11

is in between, right? But

21:13

the lower part of the fourth dimension,

21:15

you have astral series of density, where

21:17

a lot of the consciousness that gets

21:20

stuck ends up in. Sell

21:22

them repeating cycles and

21:24

just, it's what religious people

21:26

would call hell or

21:28

purgatory. It's real,

21:30

it exists, but it's not punishment.

21:32

It's just that if I live

21:34

this lifetime, let's imagine that

21:36

in this lifetime, I live this lifetime

21:38

very dense. I'm very angry because

21:40

I found out that my husband was

21:42

cheating on me. So,

21:45

and I die, and now

21:47

he's with his lover. Things

21:49

like this happen all the time, by

21:51

the way. now is going to be able

21:53

to marry his lover. No, I

21:55

end up, my vibration becomes a

21:57

match to the vibration of astral

21:59

cities of density in the Andra.

22:01

And so I naturally end up

22:04

there. And from time

22:06

to time, I even escape to come

22:08

and hound them a little bit.

22:10

No, no, no, no, no, you're not

22:12

going to be happy with her.

22:14

You know, monkey business like that, primitive

22:16

monkey stuff that people still do

22:18

while alive and continue to do after

22:21

that. But because I'm now no

22:23

longer in physical form, my

22:25

energy body cannot sustain here for too

22:27

long. So I can only come

22:29

in in stints and then immediately I'm

22:31

pushed back into the umbrella. So

22:34

that's the not so nice side

22:36

of spirituality that often new wagers ignore

22:38

guest lighting. People who are into

22:40

guest lighting spirituality, they ignore this. I

22:42

don't blame them though. Everybody is

22:44

where they are. But I'm a no

22:47

-listic person. I like to go everywhere.

22:49

I want to have the full

22:51

picture. And so just as much

22:53

as I speak of the astral cities of

22:55

light, I also speak of the astral cities

22:57

of density because a lot of people end

22:59

up there because we are still not behaving

23:01

right. Because we need Jesus. Well,

23:05

okay. So the astral

23:07

cities of light, I've viewed it.

23:09

spoken in many different ways through different

23:11

podcasts and that. How do you

23:13

perceive them then? What are their purposes?

23:16

And you mentioned that each dimension has

23:18

an astral city. Is that of

23:20

light? Is that correct? Yes.

23:22

Have you been to these as well? Yes.

23:26

A few. During my experience

23:28

with the Windows series, my

23:30

Windows series experience, where

23:32

I open the window and

23:34

fly off. And I always end

23:37

up in different dimensions. Oftentimes

23:39

what I do is that

23:41

I'm in space, sometimes I'm

23:44

hovering in space and I

23:46

see what looks like a

23:48

black hole or a wormhole

23:50

and I just fall into

23:52

it and then there's a,

23:55

it's usually a black hole with

23:57

two event horizons. I fall

23:59

into one event horizon and then

24:02

I end up falling into

24:04

a second event horizon and there

24:06

there's another dimension. Usually

24:08

it's an astral city of light

24:10

and this is what they are there

24:12

for according then to the the

24:14

literature that I have read because then

24:16

I had to go and study

24:18

to make sense of my own experiences.

24:21

There's this Brazilian medium called Francisco

24:23

Candid Xavier is more commonly

24:25

known as Chico Xavier. who

24:27

has written a book called

24:29

Our Home, UNOSULAT, where he

24:32

claims to describe through

24:34

mediumship exactly what a lot

24:36

of astral cities of

24:38

light over Brazil look like.

24:41

And his experiences kind of, or

24:43

my experiences corroborate a lot of

24:46

what he writes. So in the

24:48

astral cities of light, first of

24:50

all, it's a scene. So you

24:52

have hospitals, spiritual hospitals. because

24:54

we usually, when we come in

24:56

from this experience, we need

24:58

a little healing, right?

25:01

To undense and to lighten up, we need

25:03

a little healing, we need a little love. But

25:06

mostly these are places of learning

25:08

where you have a lot of workshops

25:10

taking place, like the things that

25:12

you do here. You

25:14

were probably doing before in the

25:16

Astral Cities of Light, you

25:19

guy with these workshops and things.

25:22

Lectures. Because the

25:24

astral cities of light are there to

25:26

heal you and to progress you

25:28

spiritually and preparing for your next stint

25:30

in on earth, in case you

25:32

still need one. Now,

25:34

when you are there, It

25:37

usually takes, according

25:39

to Francisco Candid Xavier,

25:42

and I don't quote me on

25:44

that because I don't know that.

25:46

This is what Francisco Candid Xavier

25:48

says, is that it takes

25:50

you around 30 to 40, 30

25:52

to 40 years on average. This is

25:54

an average for you to prepare

25:56

your next lifetime. Why?

26:00

Now you probably ask, but why do

26:02

you have to come back? Right? Because

26:04

we are still too attached to the

26:06

3D. There are still lessons that we

26:08

have to learn here. Oftentimes, there

26:10

is still fart and karma

26:12

that we have here, things that

26:14

we need to bring into

26:16

balance here. And when our

26:18

bodies are still in the

26:20

3D mode, we cannot stay in

26:22

the astral series of light

26:24

beyond that. because then we

26:27

start suffering, because our bodies are not

26:29

light enough yet, are not a

26:31

vibration enough to the astral cities of

26:33

light for us to stay there. So

26:36

that means that we need to go

26:38

back to 3D to finish our schooling

26:40

process here. And then,

26:42

after enough stints, we graduate exactly

26:44

like in school. And so imagine

26:46

that you go to an astral

26:48

city of light, but you've already

26:50

learned everything that you had to

26:52

do in the earth school, in

26:54

the 3D school. Then you graduate

26:56

to 4D, you reincarnate in a

26:58

lifetime in 4D or 5D, 6D,

27:01

and so on and so forth. What

27:04

does time, what it does, yeah,

27:06

I've heard it, like I said,

27:08

in different ways. What does time

27:10

feel like then? Because you

27:12

speak about years and things, like once we

27:14

go beyond that, if were to stay

27:16

in these cities, does

27:18

time feel different? Because, you know,

27:20

as we shift, like what

27:23

I found once I get in

27:25

very deep meditative states, or

27:27

I've left the body in my

27:29

own experiences, like... Time

27:31

gets really warped and when I come

27:34

back it might only be, I don't

27:36

know, it could be a long time

27:38

or a very short time but the

27:40

experience doesn't correlate to the time that

27:42

it felt like. Beyond warp. Yes, beyond

27:44

warp. time in these astral cities, there

27:46

is still a certain linearity in 4D,

27:48

but that in 5D there's no linearity

27:50

whatsoever. So there is still a certain

27:52

linearity in the astral cities, but from

27:54

what I've come to understand, time there

27:57

works very differently from here. So when

27:59

I talk about 30 to 40 years,

28:01

those are earthly years. Those

28:03

are earthly years. In terms of

28:05

the astral city, the time is different

28:07

and I don't know how much

28:09

that would be but it's different it

28:11

goes by what I know is

28:14

that it goes by faster what I've

28:16

come to understand is that it

28:18

goes by faster there but again there's

28:20

still a certain linearity But time

28:22

is very different than what it is

28:24

here in the 3D. And then

28:27

in the 5D, there's no linear time

28:29

whatsoever. Actually, I wanted to

28:31

say time goes by slower. I

28:33

said faster, but time goes by slower in

28:35

the astral scenes of life. When

28:38

you started having these

28:40

experiences, like,

28:43

were you... Were

28:46

you having them voluntarily? Like,

28:49

were you then excited to explore

28:51

it? Were you terrified? Was

28:53

it just happening spontaneously all the time

28:55

and you didn't have any control over

28:57

it? Like, how did that

28:59

start and how has that relationship

29:01

changed? Because I've certainly learned a lot

29:03

along the way around those experiences. They

29:06

were always spontaneous and they

29:08

were incredibly profusive for a full

29:10

year from between the transition

29:13

between 2011 and 2012 almost every

29:15

day very very profusive and

29:17

very spontaneous And it felt very

29:19

strange to me because then

29:21

early in the morning I had

29:23

to go work and nothing

29:26

made sense to me. Why am

29:28

I doing this job? Why

29:32

am I leaving this life here

29:34

if it's not real? So

29:36

it's kind of creepy and you have to

29:38

be careful. That's why I went to a doctor

29:40

at some point and she told me, you

29:42

know what they tell you, you're just lucid dreaming,

29:44

it's fine. I'm just going to give you

29:46

something for you to sleep more profoundly. And

29:48

as soon as she gave me

29:50

something for me to sleep more profoundly,

29:52

the experience has stopped being as

29:55

profusive. As

29:57

far as control, I learned to

29:59

have control over them as I went.

30:01

In the beginning, there was no control

30:03

and anyone could come and talk to

30:05

me. But then I learned to control

30:07

the experience, to direct the experience. And

30:10

I learned to ask my life mentors

30:12

also where I wanted to go, what

30:14

I wanted to see. And so I

30:16

remember at one point asking my

30:18

life mentors, why do I feel such

30:20

a deep connection to Russia? Because

30:23

I remember at one point my first

30:25

hotel that I stayed in Hong Kong,

30:27

the second hotel where I stayed in

30:29

Hong Kong, before I got a place,

30:32

was just Russian people.

30:35

And I'm like, oh, this is all the

30:37

Russian, where all the Russian families come

30:39

to. And I always felt... like

30:41

I belong around Russian people, even though

30:43

I don't know the language, I

30:45

obviously don't look any Russian. It's very

30:47

odd. It feels like, it felt

30:49

like home. I feel the same with

30:51

Japan, about Japan, because I had

30:53

many lifetimes in Japan. Japan is the

30:55

place where I've had the most

30:57

lifetimes. But I also feel this thing

30:59

about Russia. And my sister's name,

31:01

my sister's second name is Karina, but

31:03

for some reason I've always called

31:05

her Katarina. And...

31:08

I asked my life mentors, OK, since

31:11

this is happening to me, let me ask

31:13

you for some favors then. Let me try and

31:15

conduct these experiences a little bit. Why do

31:17

I feel a connection to Russia? And

31:19

why do I feel like that's

31:21

connected to my sister? And I

31:23

call her Katerina. And

31:27

sure enough, I

31:29

open the window at night. I'm

31:32

hovering through space. And

31:34

then I fall through a black hole,

31:36

event horizon opens, and I fall on

31:38

a bed. And

31:40

I'm this woman with a

31:42

long braid, long side braid.

31:44

I'm this Russian woman. I'm

31:47

in bed holding a baby

31:49

girl, a baby child, newborn,

31:52

and surrounded by other women. There are other women

31:54

in bed with me. And to

31:56

the bottom, and we are in this log

31:58

home. To the bottom of the log home,

32:00

there's a bunch of men who are talking,

32:02

and it was separated, the men to one

32:04

side, the women to the other side. And

32:06

I have a long brown braid, and

32:09

I'm holding this baby who has

32:11

like green snort, I'll never forget it,

32:13

had green snort on the nose, so

32:15

that probably means that it was sick. And

32:19

I looked, it was so organic that I looked

32:21

at my nails, and my nails were dirty. And

32:24

I could smell the, I can smell

32:26

the smell of the wood. even now that

32:28

I'm talking about it. So, okay, I

32:30

had at least one past life in Russia

32:32

in what looked like medieval Russia. And

32:34

then I looked at myself with the whole

32:36

medieval Russian gear. It's

32:38

beyond. There was just one

32:40

of the many, many,

32:42

many experiences where I had

32:44

more control and asked,

32:46

and asked to see. You

32:49

mentioned an event horizon

32:51

appeared. You've mentioned that a few

32:53

times. Can you explain what that is for

32:55

everyone please? oh crazy so

32:57

that's beyond because then I had

32:59

to get into then I

33:01

had to get into into black

33:03

holes uh uh okay I

33:05

will get into it I'll get

33:07

into it so black holes

33:09

they are supposed to black holes

33:11

are not supposed to have

33:13

entropy right what current physics tells

33:15

us is that if you

33:17

fall in if your physical body

33:19

falls through a black hole

33:21

it becomes spaghettified Okay,

33:23

let's let me pause you there first.

33:25

So let's break it down for everyone

33:27

in the listeners. You mentioned entropy and

33:29

I'm very familiar with the term of

33:31

lowering of entropy. So you from order

33:33

from disorder to order. Is that correct?

33:36

Exactly. So

33:38

until very recently

33:40

until very recently

33:42

then the until

33:44

1970. The

33:47

consensus was if your

33:49

physical body falls through

33:51

a black hole it

33:53

becomes spaghettified. But

33:55

then Birkenstein, the

33:58

scientist from Princeton, he

34:00

said, no, no, no, no, no,

34:02

black holes have entropy. Entropy meaning

34:04

they are chaotic. We cannot predict

34:06

exactly what happens. And he based

34:08

that on the third law of

34:10

thermodynamics, right? That

34:12

says that everything can

34:15

have entropy and everything

34:17

can be chaotic. And

34:19

then in 74, Hawking

34:22

kind of corroborated that.

34:25

So the consensus among the scientists,

34:27

among most physicists now, is

34:29

that black holes have entropy. Also

34:31

Hawking's in his 74 study,

34:34

Hawking in the 74 study

34:36

also said that if there

34:38

is a star that coalesces

34:40

against, that coalesces into a

34:42

black hole, it expands. The

34:45

event horizon is the mouse of

34:47

the black hole. It expands the

34:49

mouse of the black hole. That

34:51

any object that gets in touch

34:53

with the event horizon, with the

34:56

mouse of the black hole, expands

34:58

it. And

35:00

what more? Hawking also

35:02

verified that when two black

35:04

holes coalesce into one another, the

35:07

event horizon also expands.

35:10

And it creates a second event horizon

35:12

on the other side of the black

35:14

hole. And sure enough, in

35:16

my experiences, the ones where

35:18

I fell through a black

35:21

hole, I felt as my

35:23

energy body is falling through

35:25

the black hole, the event

35:27

horizon is widening to accommodate

35:29

me, to accommodate the experience

35:31

of my falling, like Alice

35:33

in Wonderland falling through the

35:35

rabbit hole. The rabbit

35:37

hole adjusts to her. the event

35:39

horizon adjusts to me. I

35:41

fall, fall, fall, and I fall

35:44

into another event horizon. So

35:46

it seems to me, and

35:48

physicists would call me a nut,

35:50

but please look into this physicist

35:52

out there. But Hawking said

35:54

this, not me. It

35:56

seems to me like an energy

35:58

body will not get spaghettified if it

36:00

collapses into a black hole. Not

36:03

only that, Not only that, the black

36:05

hole will adjust to it so

36:07

that it can propitiate the experience of

36:09

us falling into it and ending

36:11

up in some other dimension. Okay.

36:15

So, I've, so

36:17

I've, what I'm thinking of is

36:19

a wormhole. You could say that

36:22

would be the same thing. Yes.

36:24

Yes. Yes. Exactly. Cause, cause I

36:26

had an experience where I went

36:28

down one in where I got

36:30

pulled, I came out of body

36:32

and went. it opened up and

36:34

it went down one and it

36:36

was a very life -defining moment for

36:38

me that I had that experience

36:41

so I just want to qualify

36:43

what you just said because I've

36:45

experienced something like that myself and

36:47

I never shared these things but

36:49

but I also look at the

36:51

work of Nassim Haraman that speaks

36:53

of that everything at a quantum

36:55

level is a wormhole that is

36:58

coming in and out so I'm

37:00

no scientist and I have not researched

37:02

it clearly to the depth that you are

37:04

going with a lot of this stuff. But

37:07

I find it fascinating that

37:09

the very fabric or the makeup

37:11

of the universe is way

37:13

beyond anything I can even comprehend

37:15

at all. And once you

37:18

start opening up to these experiences,

37:20

it's almost like you know where

37:23

to look if you're completely. And

37:25

even as having access to

37:27

these experiences, it's basically what's

37:29

happening in our bodies. It's

37:31

basically in our physical bodies.

37:33

What is happening is that

37:35

in our physical bodies, the

37:37

chemistry, our chemistry, because

37:40

I do feel that there's also

37:42

DMT, right, that we produce naturally

37:44

in our brains. And until very

37:46

recently, the consensus was

37:48

that we only produced

37:50

DMT, dimethylpipetamine. which is

37:52

a very, very, very

37:54

powerful psychedelic compound that

37:56

we only produced in

37:58

two moments of our

38:00

lives, birth and death. But

38:03

ever since... the scientific community

38:05

has already reached the consensus

38:07

that we also produce it

38:09

during REM, rapid eye movement.

38:12

So it's the DMT, the surges of DMT

38:14

that is allowing, that we are producing,

38:16

that is allowing for the consciousness to be

38:18

released from our bodies. So

38:20

basically what we have is this

38:22

over -austhetic balance between quantum and chemistry,

38:25

the chemistry in our physical bodies,

38:27

coming together with the quantum, so

38:29

as to release the consciousness for

38:31

us to have these experiences in

38:33

the astral. So you see,

38:35

everything is science at the end of

38:37

the day. I guess this

38:39

is what I wanted to say. This

38:44

is so much... What I wanted

38:46

to say is that what we've

38:49

been deeming as the esoteric and

38:51

the occult is pretty much the

38:53

science that we haven't yet started

38:55

practicing. if it makes

38:57

sense. But if we put our

38:59

minds to using actual objective rationality,

39:01

which in the end is the

39:03

only type of rationality it is,

39:05

objective rationality, and unbiased critical thinking,

39:07

which is the only type of

39:09

critical thinking that it is, unbiased

39:11

critical thinking, all of this

39:13

that we deem to the esoteric endocult

39:15

is only about the science that we

39:17

don't yet know, and that we don't

39:19

yet practice. And it's only

39:21

when mainstream science reads itself of

39:23

that corporate, dogmatic

39:26

isos that

39:28

it engages

39:30

in currently,

39:32

that it will be able to make

39:35

huge leaps in understanding these things that

39:37

we are talking about today. But

39:39

do you think mainstream

39:41

science is ever going to

39:44

go down that without

39:46

having agendas behind it? The

39:48

universes are dying. I

39:51

think sorry for interrupting you.

39:53

I think it will eventually

39:55

be pushed into that as

39:57

the current socioeconomic paradigm crumbles.

40:00

Universities are dying, let's face

40:02

it, because no one has

40:04

the money to go and

40:06

get masters and PhDs anymore,

40:08

definitely not in the US.

40:11

Even in Europe, it's becoming where it's free.

40:13

A lot of universities, it's becoming hard

40:15

because, okay, university is free, but then you

40:17

still need to put food on the

40:20

table and pray the reand. In

40:22

an economy that is terrible

40:24

and where British people can

40:26

hardly foot the electric bill

40:28

these days. And

40:30

the Germans are also struggling with the

40:32

same. So universities are really,

40:34

really struggling right now. You have only the

40:36

people, the children of the elite, And

40:38

the children of the elite are hardly

40:40

interested in studying because they don't have to

40:43

study and they don't have to get

40:45

jobs. So eventually, I

40:47

do believe that mainstream science, and

40:49

it's already there. Mainstream science

40:51

is already starting to touch it

40:53

little by little. You have

40:55

already an institute of esoteric studies

40:57

in the Netherlands. So

41:01

it's already there. It's starting

41:03

to have Denmark. In

41:05

Denmark, from time to

41:07

time, they have a

41:09

PhD in European esotericism,

41:11

also the University of

41:13

Copenhagen. So we are getting their

41:15

baby steps. Universities

41:18

are understanding that they need to

41:20

leave the dogma behind if they

41:22

want to attract students, because no

41:24

one wants to study string theory,

41:27

they turn them. Okay, we've been

41:29

doing that for too long. There

41:31

is more string theory is fascinating,

41:33

but there is more to it

41:35

than string theory. How

41:37

many of these experiences would you say

41:39

you've had? I couldn't,

41:41

I wouldn't be able to count them.

41:43

So 2011, almost every

41:46

day. until

41:48

the second half of 2012, almost

41:50

every day, so I couldn't begin

41:52

to count them, hundreds and hundreds

41:54

and hundreds. And it would

41:56

be, please go ahead, please

41:58

go I was going to say, what happened

42:00

between 2012 and now? For

42:04

some reason, they stopped being

42:06

so profusive. Well, life also happened,

42:08

right? And I had to

42:10

continue to travel and de -route

42:12

myself to find jobs as an

42:14

international teacher. Usually the country

42:16

chooses you. You hardly ever choose

42:18

the country, especially under the

42:20

current economy. And

42:23

they stopped being as profusive.

42:25

That's what happened. But they

42:27

still happen. I still have

42:29

them. Just

42:32

more sporadically. Have

42:35

you written a book? Is that

42:37

what's happened? Were you in the

42:39

making of writing it? Is it finished?

42:41

Is it out there? I wrote

42:43

it. I wrote it finally two

42:45

years ago. I grabbed hold of

42:47

my notes and I said, Selma,

42:50

this is a book. I had

42:52

notebooks and notebooks plus things written

42:54

on the computer as well. So

42:56

I put it all together in

42:58

a month and then gave myself

43:00

another month to update the research.

43:03

And I had written a book.

43:05

It's called Images of Cosmology and

43:07

the Guy in Project, where new

43:09

age philosophy meets the science. And

43:11

it's on Amazon, shameless plug

43:14

-in. And

43:16

finally, it's a compendium of

43:18

most, not all of my experiences,

43:20

because I couldn't fit it

43:22

all into one book. but

43:25

of most of my experiences and with

43:27

the second part where I tried to

43:29

make sense of it scientifically. Every

43:31

single, after every single of the experiences

43:33

in my book, I tried to make sense

43:35

of it with the extent science. And

43:37

a lot of it can already be made

43:39

sense of with the extent science. That's

43:41

what I, that's what I started to understand.

43:44

Not to mention even that, even though

43:46

you cannot, you can only, you

43:48

can, you can take my word for

43:50

it because these are my experiences.

43:52

Even the other day, I went to

43:54

Bucharest, went to a conference by

43:56

Dr. Michio Kaku, the science

43:59

event of the year they called

44:01

it, and he was talking about

44:03

how scientists can already see your

44:05

dreams. And

44:07

I gasped. The entire audience gasped.

44:10

Stop, stop, no,

44:12

no. And then he actually

44:14

showed us pictures of... of people's

44:16

dreams. Sure enough, I can

44:18

see a woman playing the piano

44:20

in a picture. The quality,

44:23

obviously, is not very good yet,

44:25

but it was there. So

44:27

Dr. Michio Kaku, the physicist and

44:29

futurist, the astrophysicist and futurist,

44:31

he was showing us pictures of

44:33

people's dreams. Scientists are already

44:35

doing this, but people don't know because we

44:37

are too distracted by Beyoncé's last record.

44:39

I mean, bless her soul, but this is

44:41

what I'm trying to say. How are

44:44

they doing that with the dreams? I

44:47

didn't understand and he didn't go into the

44:49

details of it. Taking photographs, taking photographs, but

44:51

it's beyond wild. And I can't wait for

44:53

it to be online, for that conference to

44:55

be online so that people see that I'm

44:57

not making it up. It happened in Bucharest.

45:00

I went, the public gasped, I gasped. I'm

45:02

really looking forward for it to put

45:04

it on you, for them to put that

45:06

conference on you too. Do

45:08

you have a

45:10

question why these experiences

45:12

were happening for

45:14

you? I

45:16

feel like it was to

45:18

wake me, pardon my French,

45:20

the heck up and align

45:23

me because I was completely

45:25

lost with my life. I

45:27

done archaeology, but now I

45:29

am teaching. What am I

45:31

supposed to do? I'm

45:33

not happy. This planet is not enough

45:35

for me. this planet

45:37

is too small for me.

45:39

That's why I became an international

45:41

teacher, traveling from place to

45:43

place, looking for what, nothing. And

45:46

so in Hong Kong, I feel like

45:48

the experience has started because my team,

45:50

my light team may have said at

45:52

one point, let's give it to her

45:55

now, otherwise she will never wake up

45:57

and let's give her this mission. In

45:59

the meantime, I've also come to

46:01

understand that I've come into this life with

46:03

no plan. My plan was

46:05

to have no plan and to

46:07

just have complete freedom to have

46:09

complete and Absolute freedom to choose

46:11

what I wanted to do Which

46:13

is why I felt so lost

46:16

because most people come in with

46:18

the plan or with the contract

46:20

But for some reason smarty pants

46:22

me on the other side said

46:24

oh this time I want to

46:26

come in with no plan total

46:28

free will I Don't know why

46:30

I did that That's okay.

46:32

I'm sure that I'm sure

46:34

it will all become apparent why

46:36

what do you what do

46:39

you hope like with this With

46:41

this profound insights that you've

46:43

been having And they

46:45

are unique, but there seems to be

46:47

more and more conversations happening online,

46:49

podcasts like this, people coming forward, sharing,

46:52

experiencing. I mean, we hold

46:54

space for a lot of people.

46:56

We run retreats and workshops. And,

46:59

you know, we were in New

47:01

Zealand to 200 people just last

47:03

weekend. Wow. And

47:06

even in a four hour workshop, some

47:08

people are having profound experiences, deep

47:10

mystical, spiritual experiences, love.

47:13

deceased loved ones their experience in

47:15

connecting to and having also

47:17

not everyone just but you know

47:19

and it can be quite

47:21

well once you start to have

47:23

a knowing as opposed to

47:25

an analytical understanding then nobody that's

47:27

wisdom isn't it nobody can

47:29

take that away from you once

47:31

you start to have these

47:33

experiences I guess my question is

47:35

with all that is. what

47:38

do you hope for people to get out of

47:40

this? And from your experience

47:42

of what you're learning and

47:44

continue to learn, research and share,

47:47

where do you think is taking it all for you? Your

47:50

experiences and awaken.

47:53

Because as I say at the end of

47:55

my book, the

47:57

ultimate goal is us to

47:59

learn how to build a more

48:01

fairer, more equitable socioeconomic paradigm

48:03

here. because over the course of

48:06

my experiences, and I'm sure

48:08

that you may have had experiences

48:10

like that as well, or

48:12

not, I don't know, but over the course of

48:14

my experiences, I've also traveled

48:16

to societies that are a lot

48:18

more evolved than us, and

48:20

I've spoken to people, what we

48:22

here would call aliens, from

48:24

other planets, and I've seen societies

48:26

the likes of which this

48:28

society is supposed to become. And

48:31

so the goal is for us

48:33

to, what we see there in the

48:35

astral series of light, to build

48:37

it here. As

48:39

above, so below. As

48:42

above, so below. What

48:44

does that feel like

48:46

when you have an

48:48

experience of like you

48:50

just described, going to

48:52

a completely different civilization

48:55

and experiencing? I

48:57

feel like I belong. I feel like

48:59

I belong there more than I belong

49:01

here, which is silly. But over the

49:03

years, that's how I felt. I've only

49:05

really deeply enrooted myself to planet Earth

49:07

recently. And because I was

49:09

being very naughty to Gaia, because

49:11

Gaia Earth is propitiating this experience

49:13

for me, and there I go

49:15

off into space all the time

49:17

instead of rooting myself into this

49:20

planet and into this experience now,

49:22

which is why now I'm rooted.

49:24

I'm no longer having as many

49:26

experiences. I'm writing a second book,

49:28

a book about women. a Gaian

49:30

book about Gaia and I'm done

49:32

flying off. I will still have

49:34

my experiences because that's what I

49:36

am. I'm a bit of a

49:39

quantum witch, but I am

49:41

also a forest witch and

49:43

I've recently retrieved my connection to

49:45

Gaia and because I've been

49:47

in every single lifetime of mine

49:49

with exception to only one,

49:51

I was an esotericist even if

49:54

hiding, even if in hiding.

49:56

Can you repeat that you've been

49:58

in every other lifetime? Yes,

50:03

even if in hiding. There was

50:05

only one lifetime where I

50:07

was not an esotericist and was

50:09

actually very religious. Orthodox,

50:11

I was in that lifetime. I was

50:13

a teacher. I was a rich

50:15

lady in Romania. who would

50:17

teach the students, who would teach the children

50:19

from my community, and I was very

50:22

orthodox, very religious. By the way, the exception

50:24

to that one lifetime, I've

50:26

always been like a witch, even

50:28

if in hiding. Even if

50:30

in hiding. Sorry, I'm jumping in

50:32

a little bit there. But do you

50:34

believe then our lifetimes are running

50:36

parallel, and they've all

50:38

actually been experienced? In

50:41

5D, yes. In

50:43

5D, because there's no time,

50:45

in 5D, if you will,

50:47

it's files on the computer,

50:49

it's files on the desktop. That's

50:53

the best imagery that I can get

50:55

for it. In 5D, it's

50:57

also layered like an onion, so it's

50:59

all happening at the same time, every

51:01

time. And something that

51:03

happens to me with my experiences

51:05

now, actually, there's been a shift

51:07

last year where I've

51:10

shifted into just coming

51:12

across lost tapes of

51:14

other people's lives. And

51:16

I'm like, oh, I don't think I should have seen

51:18

that. Uh -oh. Lost

51:21

tapes of other people's lives.

51:23

Like, for instance, the other day

51:25

I came across this, and

51:27

I incorporate them as well. I

51:29

incorporate them. But I knew

51:31

that that wasn't a lifetime of

51:33

mine. So I incorporate this

51:35

woman called Amelia de Cojari. Then

51:38

I found out when I woke up,

51:40

I googled her and I found her immediately

51:42

because I was given the name also

51:44

while I was on that. No, not Amelia.

51:47

Maria Antonia, Maria Antonia

51:49

de Corrali. And she

51:51

was from the Austro -Hungarian

51:53

Empire. And I saw

51:55

myself in her and I

51:57

saw myself running, running, running through

51:59

this palace corridor. And then

52:02

I looked in this mirror and I'm

52:04

her and I freak out like, why

52:06

do I look like this? Girl, you

52:08

know Caucasian with brown hair, Regency style,

52:10

puffy dress, puffy purple dress from the

52:12

Regency style. And I'm in her body

52:14

and I know that I'm running because

52:16

they are marrying me off. They are

52:19

going to marry me off to this

52:21

cousin and I don't want to and

52:23

she's having a panic attack basically. And

52:25

then I woke up and my astral

52:27

mentors told me that was a lost

52:29

tape. That was not your past lifetime. That

52:32

was a lost tape from that girl's lifetime.

52:34

And she's the mother of European royalty, by

52:36

the way, because then I researched. Wow.

52:42

Just as we wrap up the podcast.

52:45

No, no, that's great. It's been

52:47

intriguing conversation. I appreciate Selma. What

52:50

do you feel about people

52:52

that are listening to this? Should

52:54

they go seeking this? Should

52:56

they just be? focusing

52:58

on the the earth guy and

53:00

the earthly plane and diving into their

53:02

experiences here like is it's easy

53:04

to bypass because you kind of lend

53:06

into that yourself a little bit

53:09

where you know instead of coming into.

53:12

This of what I haven't accepted in who

53:14

I am and where I am and

53:16

and being very present with this it was

53:18

easy for you to just go off

53:20

into the astral all the time. That's

53:22

such a great question, because we

53:24

are in service to people when we

53:27

do these interviews, isn't it? What

53:29

I would say is, and I usually say this

53:31

in my own YouTube channel, I

53:35

will never be the sort of person

53:37

who will teach you how to ask for

53:39

a project in five steps or 10

53:41

steps or however many steps people do, because

53:43

there are videos like that on TikTok

53:45

and whatnot. be

53:48

the sort of person that says go

53:50

have the experience because I feel like

53:52

I had it when spirituality, when my

53:54

life mentors felt like I was prepared.

53:57

I would never tell anyone go in search

53:59

of this experience. Just be

54:01

present, be here, be in

54:03

the moment, ground yourself with

54:05

this planet and if these

54:07

experiences are supposed to come

54:09

to you, they will. Just

54:11

be aware that there is

54:14

more beyond Gaia and that

54:16

we truly are multi -dimensional beings.

54:19

And with that

54:21

thought, root yourselves in this

54:23

planet so that we can shift what

54:25

is currently happening in this planet. Now,

54:28

we don't have to do it. I

54:30

don't have to change the world. Shift

54:33

what is happening in this planet

54:35

through shifting in ourselves. through

54:37

shifting ourselves into better

54:39

consciousness awareness, into expanding out

54:41

our consciousness awareness. So

54:43

take these videos, videos like

54:45

this, just to expand

54:47

your consciousness awareness. And

54:49

so far as this experience is happening

54:52

to you with concern, they will come

54:54

to you if they have to, when

54:56

they have to. I would not advise

54:58

anyone to go and force that experience. But

55:01

anyway, to each

55:03

his own or her own as well,

55:05

right? They are beautiful. I fully

55:07

agree with you. I really do I

55:09

feel like heaven is on earth

55:11

and if we even though it can

55:13

feel like it didn't and it

55:15

certainly didn't feel like for me for

55:17

a large part of my life

55:19

but the more I've just actually owned

55:22

up to myself and Lent into

55:24

what's there for me and and sort

55:26

of heal my own wounds my

55:28

traumas and and actually understand energy medicine

55:30

a lot more and work with

55:32

my body and let it let

55:35

it move my whole state

55:37

of being has changed, my

55:39

relationship with myself, my

55:41

relationship with other people and

55:43

really seeing and feeling the

55:45

gratitude and the beauty for

55:47

what is and I feel

55:49

if we allow ourselves to

55:52

yearn for that state and

55:54

actually start to bring that

55:56

in, everything shifts

55:58

and then you stop seeking.

56:00

Outside of yourself all the time

56:03

and those things naturally come It

56:05

changes you cellularly, isn't it and

56:07

it completely strips you off some

56:09

A lot of what was ego

56:11

Also like my wanting to do

56:13

a PhD for all those years

56:15

That was more my ego than

56:18

anything else because I'm a scientist

56:20

and I went to study what

56:22

it's your ego you just want

56:24

to get into some Vanity project

56:26

for no reason no Selma write

56:28

about your experiences. This is what

56:30

you are getting urged by spirituality

56:33

to do Yeah, absolutely. So Selma

56:35

wrapping up the podcast you got

56:37

a book So where can people

56:39

buy your book if they want

56:41

to find out more? Unfortunately,

56:44

it's only on Amazon

56:46

right now. I Don't

56:48

have a hard copy with me

56:50

at the moment because I just moved

56:53

and I had to leave everything behind. I had to

56:55

leave all of my books behind, so I'm ever so

56:57

sorry about that. I haven't got a hard copy, but

56:59

it's called... But people can buy it in hard copy? People

57:02

can buy it in hard copy,

57:05

and they can also buy the online

57:07

version, both on Amazon. It's

57:09

called Images of Cosmology and the

57:11

Guy in Project, where

57:13

New Age philosophy meets the

57:15

science by Selma Hare. All right,

57:17

awesome. And you have a

57:19

YouTube channel as well. There'll be

57:22

links in the show. I'll

57:24

get the guys to do it.

57:26

Yeah. Oh, that's all right.

57:28

Selma hair, Selma hair, S -E -L

57:30

-M -A -H -A -R -E Selma hair,

57:32

hair as in the rabbit bunny

57:34

rabbit. Yeah. The one bunny

57:37

rabbit. Yeah. Yeah. Alice in Wonderland.

57:39

And yeah, do you have a website? I

57:43

don't, not as of yet, but

57:45

I'll be working on that and

57:47

as soon as I do get

57:49

that together, I will be letting

57:51

everybody know on my own channel.

57:53

Do you geography students know you're

57:55

jumping on podcasts like this, having

57:58

conversations? They do, they

58:00

do. And the other day, they were telling

58:02

me, Miss, you have to do something crazy,

58:04

like going to North Korea or something, so

58:06

you can get more viewers to go to

58:08

your YouTube channel. They are really cool. My

58:10

students, the older ones, I don't tell it

58:12

to the younger ones, but the older ones,

58:15

my year 13 students are

58:17

super cool because they

58:19

are adults, practically. And

58:21

so they find it the coolest thing ever. Amazing.

58:25

Well, I wish I

58:27

had a teacher like you at

58:30

that age having these conversations and

58:32

talking about it. It's pretty cool.

58:34

Lovely to meet. Any

58:36

last words for listeners to ponder on

58:38

before we wrap it up, Selma? Listen,

58:41

we are at an age where

58:43

even though there's been a bit

58:45

of a recess and a bit

58:47

of a regression in evolution recently,

58:51

that is only but

58:53

temporary, and it's only

58:55

the shadows screaming their

58:57

last scream. We are

58:59

at an age where we can no

59:01

longer be burned in the fire like

59:03

Giordano Bruno, the philosopher

59:05

and the cosmological theorist, was

59:07

burnt in the fire in

59:09

the 1600s. In 1600, in

59:11

Campo di Fiori, in Rome,

59:13

for saying that he had

59:15

dreamt about Aristarchus' heliocentric model.

59:17

Basically, he had an astral

59:19

projection experience where he saw

59:21

the planets evolving around the

59:23

Sun, right? We are no

59:25

longer at an age where

59:27

that happens to us. We

59:30

are safe now to be

59:32

ourselves. We can

59:34

come out with these experiences

59:36

and expand our consciousness awareness

59:38

in doing so. But above

59:40

all, this planet now needs

59:42

you. Gaia needs you to

59:44

center yourself to expanding consciousness

59:46

awareness so you can individually

59:48

and through your communities also

59:51

work on your communities work

59:53

individually to shift the current

59:55

socioeconomic paradigm into one where

59:57

we have left the animal

59:59

behind and have truly become

1:00:01

the human so that we

1:00:03

can become the societies, the

1:00:05

astral cities that we see

1:00:08

in the astral. Bring it

1:00:10

to the below, as above

1:00:12

so below. This would be

1:00:14

the message and be happy and be happy. Absolutely.

1:00:18

Selma, thank you so much. I really

1:00:20

enjoyed our conversation and And yeah,

1:00:23

appreciate it. And I've learned a new

1:00:25

word today as well. Anthroposophy.

1:00:28

Did I say it right? That's

1:00:30

it. Yeah. No,

1:00:32

fantastic. Thank you so much, for lovely. And

1:00:34

And I have no doubt this is to go

1:00:37

down really well. You're You're very welcome, Melof. Thank

1:00:39

you. Awesome. Thank you. Bye -bye.