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fact, I was so obsessed with
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the movie Heathers that I remember
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telling my dad when he had
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shown me originally was called Class
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of Beverly Hills, it was the
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script, the pilot script for 9-0-2-0,
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and he was looking to cast
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Brenda and Brandon Walsh. And I
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brought him a picture of Shannon
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and I was like, this is
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Brenda Walsh. You have to put her
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in it. And it was just because I
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was such a huge fan, I just loved
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her so much, I thought she was so
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great. And I mean, my dad would always
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take my word on something. It's not like
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he would put someone in it
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just to put the minute, like
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obviously he did his due diligence
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and had her come in to
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read and everything, but you know,
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she was it obviously because she
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was amazing and she was supposed
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to be friend of Walsh always,
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but It's just so interesting that
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I was like, oh my God,
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this is the it girl. I
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had the privilege of working with
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Shannon for four seasons on Beverly
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Hills 90210 when her beloved character
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Brenda Walsh became a household name.
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I definitely went through a lot
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of growing pains on that show.
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There was beautiful moments for me
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and there were really hard moments
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for me. I recall when tension
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started happening on the set and
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It was always awesome to me
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that the boys got along
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so well, and it wasn't
13:28
necessarily the same with the
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girls. I was pretty exhausted,
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and I was going through
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a lot of my own growing
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up, and it just seemed that
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I was really getting the brunt
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of why is the show about
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Brenda and Brandon? Well, because
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it's about the watches. I
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didn't write the show, but...
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I think I give us
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more allowance now to forgive
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ourselves and to
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forgive others. for being
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freaking kids. And it's important
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to note that when Shannon
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left 902-210, she was literally
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at the height of her
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career. And she could have
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chosen a number of projects
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at that point, but she
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definitely was a true trailblazer.
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And she chose to make
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the indie movie Mall Rats
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with a then up-and-coming director
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named Kevin Smith. They were
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like... Uh, you know, there's
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this movie, but you have
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to audition. I was like,
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okay, let me read it.
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And then I read it
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and they're like, it's Kevin
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Smith and he did clerks
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and I'm like, okay, let
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me watch that. And I
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was like, yeah, okay, I'll
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audition. It was like the
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monologues. It was crazy. And,
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but I did it. The
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best dialogue I've ever gotten
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to say. Mall Rats was
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not a box office success
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when it premiered in 1995.
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In fact, Shannon felt that
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the indie flick hurt her
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career in film, but Shannon's
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loyalty to Director Kevin Smith
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never wavered. And with time,
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Mall Rats ended up becoming
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a cult classic. Shannon loved
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playing Renee in the film
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and hoped to one day
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Shannon played the starring role in
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a movie based on a true
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story called Gone in the Night.
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I felt a deep responsibility to
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the family to portray their story
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accurately. There was just a lot
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of pressure that I felt doing
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that movie and it's also one
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that I'm really really really proud
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of. I think it turned out.
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wonderful. The cast was amazing. Yeah,
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that would go down as a
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piece of work that I'm extremely
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proud of. A few years later,
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we heard Shannon Singh in a
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TV movie called Friends Till the
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End. After that movie came out,
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I had a couple of meetings
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with some amazing record people and
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it was something that I discussed,
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but ultimately I think I was
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incredibly insecure about my singing voice
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and I was also insecure about
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how people would receive that from
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me because there was so much
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other stuff going on with rumors
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about me that adding to it.
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I think I just got, I
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think I got scared, I chickened
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out of doing anything with singing.
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I might regret it a little
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bit, but not too much. Shannon
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continued making magic on television when
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she played Prue Hallowell in three
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seasons of Charn, which is also
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where she learned to direct. When
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I direct something, I do a
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lot of shot list and... I
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like to have storyboards done and
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I usually base the aesthetic, the
19:56
look of it on a particular
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painting. So for instance, the last
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episode I directed of Charmed, it
20:03
was based on a Salvador Dolly
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painting that was the color scheme,
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the aesthetic, the mood, everything else.
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And then I just like to
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be overly prepared because I don't
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think that people have to work
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16 hours on a TV show
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a day. So. I'd like to
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know how I can condense things,
20:22
how I can put people in
20:24
two shots, how many cameras can
20:27
I actually use, still be on
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budget, hopefully come in under budget,
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and get people out at a
20:33
normal hour so that they can
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go home and have family time.
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Shannon worked with her fair share
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of major leading men, from Mel
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Gibson to Bruce Willis. She appeared
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in several films from director James
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Cullen Brusick. The Bruce Willis movie,
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it was called The Fortress, that
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also was a really kind of
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fascinating experience for me, and I
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just remember this scene with him
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that was written one way. It
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was written as I'm a general
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and I'm an actual bad guy,
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and he's the good guy hero,
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as Bruce Willis always is. And
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it was just me sort of
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saying, you know, this is how
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it works, buddy, essentially. And in
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that moment of filming it. Bruce
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and I had a very different
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connection. For me as an actor
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I can tell you that I've
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had a couple of really like
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raw moments. You know, I mean
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you hope that all of them
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come across is like raw honest
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moments, but personally very raw honest
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moments that are captured on screen
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and that was one of them.
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Those are the moments that I
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always look back and I'm like,
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oh man, that's when I was
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my best. Is what I'm like
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the most raw and sort of
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broken down because there's no... there's
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no wall, there's no pretense, you're
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not self-conscious, you're not any of
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those things, you're just like in
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the moment and it's something that...
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I strive for as an actor.
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And while I have mentioned some
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of her biggest career accomplishments, Shannon's
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legacy is so much more than
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her IMDB page, she was a
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loving friend and a furious warrior
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when it came to standing up
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for what she believed in. She
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wasn't afraid of anything or anyone,
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and yet she had such a
22:21
kind heart. She was sensitive, underneath
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what she put front as a
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tough exterior. and her dignity mattered
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to her more than any career
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accolade. Being my own cheerleader has
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been a tough one for me
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that I have not mastered and
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yeah you know you hear a
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story and I hear this from
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a lot of people or I
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used to hear it from a
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lot of people of oh I
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was warned about you and I
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was told that you're difficult or
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you're this and it's so hard
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for me to realize that there's
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a whole like narrative and agenda
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that's out there about me that
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has almost nothing to do with
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me. As you know, I'm pretty
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sensitive and I tend to take
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a lot of things personal and
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it hurts me that there's, you
23:10
know, something out there about me
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that is not true or isn't
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100% of the truth or there's,
23:17
you know, two sides to every
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story. There's this, there's that. I
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can't worry about like the random
23:23
10 people that that are pissed
23:25
that I'm saying something. I've got
23:28
to worry about. like am I
23:30
being honest to me? She fought
23:32
constantly for female voices in Hollywood.
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We still obviously have a very
23:36
long way to go because I
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think that particularly in my business
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I think there's still a lot
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of like misogyny like I think
23:45
that how women are treated in
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this business and I think I've
23:49
said it that I don't think
23:51
that things have changed nearly enough
23:53
but at least there's some change.
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She fought for cancer thrivers around
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the world. She fought for... rights
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with all her passion and soul.
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And I can't think of a
24:04
better legacy for such a
24:06
beautiful person. I'm familiar with
24:09
Helen Back. A couple of times
24:11
I've been through Helen Back now. You
24:13
know, at the end of the day,
24:15
people have to learn their own lessons
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in life and shit happens in life.
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And it's okay to talk about it.
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And it's okay to share it. All
24:24
I'm really trying to show all of
24:27
you is who I really am. who
24:29
I've always been and who I am
24:31
deep down. Let's be clear. Shannon
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Doherty deserves recognition
24:36
for her contributions across
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the board. I just want
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to wrap up this tribute
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by saying thank you. Thank
24:45
you to all of Shannon's listeners.
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Thank you so much for
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helping me celebrate her
24:52
incredible career. We love you,
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Shannon. And we miss you every
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