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safely last night. Coach, how was your Thanksgiving? It
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was great, Jim. It was great.
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Very relaxing. know A lot of good
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football this weekend So college
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pro, different conferences are having their games
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this weekend A lot of those
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got set. So exciting games You know,
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hate to see all the fighting at
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the end of these college games about the
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flags. So maybe the NCAA all that. I
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don't think we need that but otherwise
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a lot of good football What's
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going on with that? I I mean, I
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remember back in the day, Terrell Owens out stomping
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on the star now it's just kind of all,
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all disintegrated all these guys planting flags
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so forth. What do do
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you make of this and And do you think
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leads to this behavior that allows this? Yeah,
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well, maybe if we just get rid of the the flags,
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that'll take care of some of the problems. Is
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it a coaching issue? Is it a discipline
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issue? Is it just the times we live in
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with these young men? What's going on? Yeah,
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probably each situation was a little bit
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different, but in the end, think if you
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don't you know, you don't have flags being
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planted there, that that a lot of
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problems. Hopefully they eliminate
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that. So coach, let's dive into
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this because I know you and coach Parcells back
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when you were with the Giants and
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then coach by himself and then you by yourself
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with both. the Browns
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and the Patriots you're preparing for the end
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of the game and these teams. the
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Chicago Bears, We're not
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prepared for the end of the game. Whether
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it's a coaching issue, a quarterbacking issue, or
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whatever's going on, how can
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that happen? How does that happen?
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And how can you have 25 assistant
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coaches and all these people who
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you're paying on these headsets nobody can
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get this right? Yeah, Well, I
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think in all those situations, Jim, it really comes
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down to three people have to be on the
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same page. The head coach, the
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play caller, which is usually
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the coordinator and the
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person in charge the field, who's
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probably usually the defensive segment caller the
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offensive quarterback. Those three people
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all need to be thinking the same
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thing. And when they're not, for whatever reason,
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then that's where the problems come in. One
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guy's thinking one thing, other guy's thinking
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another thing, and then you end up
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somewhere either in the middle or
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on one end of the other, and
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then you can't, other person is surprised
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by that decision. So it comes to
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making decisions, you really want all three
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to be together. That's why I always
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felt it was so important as the head
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coach to make sure that I
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spent a lot of time with Tom,
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with Brady, and make sure that we
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were on the same page of situationally,
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We knew what we wanted to
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do in in hopefully situation. And
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thought that was very important.
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So when that doesn't happen, like
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example, in the Chicago game, look
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like the play got called and
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quarterback maybe to change it and
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the the clock's running down. so clearly
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wasn't on the same page. And
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and that's a problem, or probably a
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similar situation in the Raider game where they're
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trying to take time off the clock
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and then they mess up the snap count, and the ball
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gets snapped and the game. So are
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bad communication situations. Whereas take the
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Baltimore game, it really
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comes down to three kicks Point-wise, what
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made a difference in the game. mean, mean, a different way
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to lose the game, but three kicks
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by a kicker that missed too many in
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his career. So all the losses hurt, but
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I think the ones that are, as you
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said, kind of miscommunicated on situations at
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the end of the game are
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tough. Jim Gray Bill Belichick, so coach
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afterwards. Now we get into the
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whole aftermath. Why are these guys defending
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what they did? The whole country just
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saw it. Everybody knows you're wrong, knows it
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didn't go well. And then, Eberfluse comes
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out and says he did everything right. uh,
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Antonio says, nope, wouldn't change it,
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you know? What's going on
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here? You're defending the indefensible. Yeah.
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Yeah, I'm not sure about that one. mean,
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Certainly, there a lot of questions and you sit
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there and and about them all day.
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I think in some cases the head coach
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may not want to into
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let's call it blaming somebody else
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in the organization it be offensive play
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call or coordinator, quarterback, maybe somebody in
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the press box whatever happened
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to be that was you
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know Maybe involved with the cause of
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the problem that you know He just
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kind of takes it himself and said, you
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know, it's my fault or it's my fault. But isn't that
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Bill Belichick 101? screwed it up I
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do better. Yeah, but it's right. It's a
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lot easier than trying to explain everything that
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happened. And there also usually a variety of
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each situation could be a little bit different.
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So what you would do in this one
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could be a little bit different from the
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next one if you just add subtract a couple of
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seconds. So it can get into
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pretty long answer. Yeah, you should
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try to keep it short and just
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say that my fault. That was easiest
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reservations. Coach, we all saw
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what happened to Trevor Lawrence the end of that play, sliding
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and Aziz Al-Shayir in
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and takes out of
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the game, a brawl ensues. justifiably
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so the Jacksonville players
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their quarterback. Looks like a
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very dirty, nasty hit. He releases a
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statement today saying that wasn't was in his heart.
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And I probably I I believe that. I don't think that
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he went out there with that intention. with
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that to happen, even though in the
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split second moment. it's bad decision that
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he makes. Not judging his
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heart, but just judging. judging what it
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is that we saw, when the NFL
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is trying to take away quarterback injuries
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by allowing them to slide and then this
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happens, what are your thoughts on
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that? Well, I think it's a really tough situation,
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Jim. You know, majority of the
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the time, the the quarterback slides early
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enough where the defender can pull off.
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And so that's easy. if he slides early
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and the defender goes in and hits on
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them, then absolutely, that should be not only a
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penalty, but I mean, really a borderline, you
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know, probably ejection. I I mean, that's just uncalled
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for. but the
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quarterback slides at the very last second
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and the defender is committed to trying
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to go the tackle, it's not too
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much he can do, really. And we've
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all seen these quarterbacks who fake slide
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and then they run over the guy
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or they fake like they're going out
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of bounds and they down the sideline
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and the defender. And so
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if the defender doesn't go to tackle the
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quarterback, these quarterbacks can make them
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look bad. And so you've got to
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respect the quarterback's running ability. If he wants, if he
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gets out there and runs, then, you
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know, you gotta tackle him. I mean, that's all there
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is to it. It It doesn't matter whether it's, you
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know, the Mark Jackson or Josh Allen or Richardson
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or the Amis guys are hard
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to tackle. So the offender is going there
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to tackle them in the quarterback
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slides the very last second. There's
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nowhere else that the defender really
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can make contact with him because whole his old
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is on the ground. but
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head is, you know, call it a
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a two off the ground, two two and
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a half, three feet, whatever it is as
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he slides on this particular play, though,
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I think when brings his forearm up and
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hits them in the head with the forearm,
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that the problem. And I think that's really
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the coaching point there is you can't hit him
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in the head with a forearm and
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lead with the forearm. But in trying to
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tackle the runner who's aggressively running, trying to
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get the first down, if there's contact
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in the head when the quarterback slides late,
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that's a tough situation for a defender to be put
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in. I I don't want to put
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words in your mouth, but I hear
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you kind of saying that the disease had.
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had no no here. And And so leads to
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the next question is, Do you feel?
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or or not feel a a suspension should
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come from that. Well, I don't really
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have a position on the suspension or not. I'm not
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sure what all goes into the criteria for that. But
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I do think the was unnecessary. Would
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there have been contact to the head anyway? I
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I think there probably would have been because
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slide was so late. But I
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think the forearm brings brings
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this question for discipline, yes.
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champions for tomorrow. What
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was it like to play in those snow games what we
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saw last night in Buffalo? I think
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it was very much like what
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happen? Very hard to pass,
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rush, very hard to tackle.
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and get your arms around a runner, a
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good runner has strength and
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good contact balance. Not a
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real slick nifty guy because the field kind
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of slows that down, but you know, big
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powerful runners are just hard to tackle. It's
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just hard to get your arms around
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them and wrap up. And And them if the
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line of is soft and they can run
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through those arm tackles at the line, then
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they're they're to bring down. So pass
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rush an issue. And, And I
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would say tackling those are the two biggest issues. Obviously
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the ball handling and all that is a little
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bit Obviously a challenge in that ways. thought Buffalo, I see
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teams did a pretty good job of of
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the ball, kicking,
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passing, catching. I mean, overall, I
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thought it was not bad, but
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even when you sell like those kickoff returns
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that Debo had, once a guy
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like that gets momentum and gets a little speed going,
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they're just just to bring those
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guys down. The tackling is the tackling stuff. You
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can't control body it you just can't get them
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down with you know, with with any
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of arm tackle, got to, you got
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really get in front of them and stop them. And
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what is your feeling and what do you
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make of of bills dominating the division clinching? you
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know, still with five weeks left in the
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season in the division that you you once owned.
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Yeah, that's an interesting
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situation. Sometimes it's Look,
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the good thing about clinching early is, is
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you can kind of get some of your,
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get some of your backup players, some experience and give them
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some playing time. And you don't want to do
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though, is lose your edge. And I mean, obviously Buffalo
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playing very well right now And you don't want
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them to, you know, you want
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to lose that, you know, that sharp edge that
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you have. But at same time, you don't want to
10:28
go all out and end up, you know,
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not having four or five key players play us
10:33
when you really need them. So you try to
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figure out that balance there. But I'd say
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with Buffalo's schedule, they have a couple of, you know, very.
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competitive games coming up that are outside of the division,
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which I think will help keep them sharp, I I
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sharp. think they're in a pretty good position, you
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know, and whether or not they can get the
10:47
home field in the first round by, they're still playing
10:50
for that. So I think they're going to keep, I
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think they're gonna keep their foot on the pedal
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and keep pushing through it. And And pedal got
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Kansas City on the tiebreaker. So And if they
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can catch them, you know, it'll make the playoffs go
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through Buffalo again, which is, you know, not a
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bad place for them to be. and they
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get that week off. That's right. Well, honestly,
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they've got five weeks off. if They want them. So,
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you know, if if
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they a guy that's got hamstring or a high ankle or
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something like that, there's no need to rush
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them back and try to, you know, put them
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at risk and extend the injury. They have
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plenty of time for that. But yeah, that that
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week, I mean, that extra week can be a
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good thing or it could be a bad thing. I
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I can tell you you, sometimes it's, you know, you
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just, you're not quite as sharp as as teams
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who are, you know, the first team you're going
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to play is usually the the bottom. ranked
11:35
team, right? And so that team has been in
11:37
playoff football for a couple of weeks. If they hadn't,
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don't win the last couple of games of the
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season, they're they're not going to be in the
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playoffs. So usually need to win. They're usually,
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you know, playing pretty well at the end. That's how
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they got in. And, you know,
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if the the first team or second seeded
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team slips a little bit, then you
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know, you get out your hands full so it's a
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it's a little tricky. It really is It's a
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little tricky don't want to keep the edge without without
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burning your team out without
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burning your, you know, without unnecessarily
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guys who are maybe fighting
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through injuries at further
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risk. It's tricky. And
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coaches, we're talking about the division. It's come
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to this, another. 10 loss season
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now, just three wins so far for the
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Patriots. What's your feelings on what you've seen
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with them so far this season? Yeah,
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just haven't done enough to win very many games
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on any level. You know, they
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trouble on defense. One
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of the last ranked teams on offense,
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if not the bottom rank. Missed some key field
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goals and some, you know, plays as well.
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So So I'd say all three areas of
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the game just haven't been know, enough to win.
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I Still a couple games left
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against Buffalo, right? So it's, they a a
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bye this week, so maybe they They'll
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get a few things straight out. but it's just been
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a pretty inconsistent year. Just haven't been able to do
12:52
enough to win when they needed to. How did these guys
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played for you? Do you feel for them in
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this situation, or have you just moved on in your
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head? No, there are a a lot
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of people there that, you you know, very close to a lot of
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them that I brought there. Especially
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defensively, almost all those players
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are re -signed, and and most
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all offensive skill players, too. So
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yeah, it's, you know, it's to see them, you
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know, through that type of that
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type of season. nothing to do about it. I mean,
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just you know, back and watch it. But of course, yeah, I
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feel bad for a lot of those guys. but
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But you know, especially defensive players, I know those guys
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work hard. They're tough, and they they care and
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they put a lot into it. It's a national
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football league. It's very competitive, You
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gotta, you gotta a way to, to
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stand up to the competition And that's,
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a challenge for every team. Coach,
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you've had these type of seasons before, where you're
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winning games, you know you shouldn't be winning. and
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you're a a defending champion and
13:44
and looking at you, but
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you know it's not right. And
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you're hoping, one week we're going to this, we're
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gonna come together and we're gonna play
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like the team that was that team. That
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hasn't happened this year in Kansas city. It's
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one thing after another. by the
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way way. We didn't talk about
14:02
this earlier. How is a play blown dead? It's
14:04
either an illegal procedure or it's not, but the
14:06
rulebook says it's not an illegal procedure, it's an
14:08
illegal shift, so you snap a ball after
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a whistle and it's a debacle. But
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let's concentrate first on the Chiefs somehow
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out how to win these games that
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they shouldn't be winning you know, it's you
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know it's not going well. Is
14:21
there enough time left to correct this
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or is this just it is And you it.
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to live with it? Well, I
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think the Chiefs have played well in each area at
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times throughout times throughout the course of the year.
14:31
It's not as consistent as what they wanted to
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be, but but they've done enough
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things, again things to win and you
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look at other teams that kind of of find
14:39
ways to lose those games. The not have
14:41
found them. So you to lose them, so you
14:43
got to give them credit for that. And
14:46
so I think the fact that they
14:48
have done everything well at different points
14:50
of the season, just not putting too
14:52
many of those games together, that at some
14:54
point that, you know, they can just find a
14:56
little more consistency and do the things
14:58
they're capable of doing, that they know, that they
15:00
could be be all right. Now, some of
15:02
the issues they have, I'm not sure
15:04
how they're going to fix those. Obviously,
15:06
the tackle situation is an issue. you
15:09
know, getting the back, back and Pacheco back. back,
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I think that will definitely help
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them. I've got enough experience there and
15:15
good players. They obviously just
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need to get it all working
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together And I think that's certainly doable. We'll
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see whether they can do it. Now the
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officiating aspect. When nobody
15:26
at home understands what it is they saw
15:28
and everybody thinks they've seen something other
15:30
than what the officials have seen and it's
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adjudicated in a different way after huddling up
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and it's debacle.
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What's going on here? How Either the
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plays dead it's not. Your
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response and thoughts on on it is that took
15:43
place out there with the officiating crew. Look,
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everybody wants to get it right. The
15:47
officials to get it right. League wants
15:49
to get it right. Teams want to
15:51
get it right. So everybody's in alignment there.
15:54
in alignment there. a Football
15:56
can be a tough, complicated game. It's
15:58
a to fast moving game. during the six,
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seconds of the play going on You
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know there's plenty of time in between
16:05
plays but then when the when the ball's snapped, around
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when it's being snapped until right at the
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very end of the play, a lot of
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things happening in a a short amount of time
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with some tremendous athletes who have great
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skill and can do things that are sometimes
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you just don't think are possible so So
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problem for me is when
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a play as you
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said is a play but
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it isn't a play So
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example we've seen plays
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where the gets hit
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and the ball goes
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forward and it clearly
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looks like an incomplete pass but
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guys run over and they pick it
16:44
up like it's a fumble and other guys
16:46
have stopped playing. guys have stopped playing
16:48
some guys haven't and the are kind of
16:50
letting plays go and then they'll come
16:52
back and correct them on replay and
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say well it was an incomplete pass, or you
16:57
know it or a fumble or it was
16:59
a fumble but when they let those
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plays go and some guys play them some
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don't I think that's a very dangerous
17:05
situation on the field where somebody's going a
17:07
hundred miles an hour and guy
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has stopped because he thinks the
17:11
plays over and he doesn't want
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to get a penalty for doing
17:16
something excessive on the play the
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whistle itself doesn't really mean that
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the is over, over and we've seen
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that in multiple cases where the whistle
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but the ball comes out it's
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still a live ball, and we go back and
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review it, and it's not where the
17:30
whistle blew or not it's whether or
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not the player was actually down and
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that makes it a very confusing situation
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where the whistle now doesn't really have
17:39
any meaning So you coach the guys to play
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to the whistle No.
17:44
we played to possession of the ball as
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long as the ball's loose play
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to possession of the ball
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the whistle means nothing. That's a
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great thought and that's instructive That's instructive
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with just went on here yeah
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the whistle doesn't mean anything Our
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coaching point was very strongly
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made, you play to possession
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of the ball. You
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don't care about the whistle if the
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ball is loose. you play to
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possession of the ball. Jim Gray
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Express. Max, Peter, you guys
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have a good Thanksgiving? I sure did. I
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hope you did, Max. Yeah, I
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had I had a good Thanksgiving. I was on the
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road. Unfortunately, I on didn't get to be with my girls
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my dogs at the house. They had
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a big ol' spread, and they ate
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very well. was Still, I'm on it.
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like I I told 'all was before, even though Jim
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didn't believe me. I was on my meal
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prep, so. we'll Thanksgiving for
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after the season. But you got to
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hug Patrick Mahomes. What was that like? Yeah, we
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hugged him a lot. A lot of
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physical hugs. Yeah, good good time.
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So Max, how are you recovering from the
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latest debacle? I'm doing
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great. Honestly, Saturday, right after
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the game, got in the building, got my
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work in in Sunday well. today, again, So
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like I said, just controlling the controllables.
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mean, you can't even make. it up. Uh,
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really no words. We
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had them, You know what I mean? We had them. They knew we had
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them. I mean, I talked to Patrick,
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you know, after the game, he's like, y 'all had
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know what I mean? Like everybody, um, the
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board, but Doesn't matter, they
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won. We couldn't finish it
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onto the next game, so you know, focused on Tampa
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Bay now. Every every you come
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on, you're all magnanimous and Hey, I
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I can just control what
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I control. Don't you ever go
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pound the wall. Don't
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you ever throw something.
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Don't you ever just
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get supremely. ticked off.
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Of course. Of course. I'm competitive as
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they come. You know what I mean? I
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put all my time and
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effort and spirit and soul into this. you
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know, and to being the best version of myself.
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I about winning more than anything on the planet.
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So yeah, like were points in the season where I
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feel like I was losing my mind, You you
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know I I mean? I had to really reset
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and like the best version of me is being,
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you you know, not just a great player, but
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a great leader and being the best version
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of myself, bringing positivity. Cause if I can, I
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can sit around and be negative and be
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like everybody else in the world right now and
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be like, oh, it's a shit show. Is this is
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that, da, da, da. If I live in that,
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I'm just like everybody else and I'm not
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like everybody else. I like I'm... here for a reason
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and I could fall into that trap and be
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you know a part of the crowd or
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I can be a leader and that's that's what I
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choose to be You know what I mean it's
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a choice and yeah of course it sucks, I'm I'm
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be the best version of me every single
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day you know going forward. So Max, the
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question though, to be asked. Who's teaching
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you guys the concepts of situational football?
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Who's developing it? Who's going through
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these things? Who's repeating it and time
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and time again? So when
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this happens, it doesn't happen like it did. Who's
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doing that? We have
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somebody, you know, I don't know what the
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term is or the label, but yeah, there's
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situational or analytics or whatever you want to
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call it. We have people that do that.
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There's there's group of people that do that. You
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You know, it's coaching, it's everybody involved. So I
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really, I I can't even describe to you. what
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exactly happened because there's a lot of
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different versions of what transpired.
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I truly, I don't know. There's
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miscommunication. There's this, there's that. But like,
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like I said, like, what
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am I going to say? You You know what
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I mean? mean? What am I going to do? gotta... No,
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no, no, there's instinct. there's there's instinct. There's reaction. There's
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anticipation and a lot of that's on the players
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and a lot of that's on the coaches. And when
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it's, you know, two ships passing in the night.
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in those situations. you
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know, you take a victory away from yourself. I
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mean, it's everybody has a a hand in
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that. So from players, coaches,
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everybody. So that's on everybody's note. You You
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point fingers and do that, but at the
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end of the day, it's on everybody,
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so. you know, there's
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no no other words I could really say. you know what I mean?
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I I would just leave it at that. As
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we continue here on Let's Go, Let's Go
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is brought to you by by Casamigos Tequila. Casamigos
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Tequila brought to you. by those
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who drink it. it. Max, the
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last three times you've
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played Kansas City. the
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composite score. is
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Kansas City has outscored
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you by three points. If
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anybody could give a
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lesson in what it's like
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to play the Kansas City
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Chiefs, tough, it's
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the Vegas Raiders. What
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are some of the things
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you find without away state secrets? when
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you play Kansas City and why
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have you been able to play them
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so well over the last couple
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of years? Yeah, well, I feel like, You
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know, if Kansas City gets the run game it's
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very hard to stop. you know, it's
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hard to stop them because once,
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you know, you're setting, you're guessing it's 50 -50 and
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Pat can either run pass it. Like, it's,
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not predictable, You know what I know mean? If you
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shut the run down early, Andy
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wants to throw the ball and I know
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Pat wants to throw the ball and that's what
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they do at their best, but if you make
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them one -dimensional and you got rushers that can get
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out the quarterback and you can get
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matching and coverage, that's your best. best to win.
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So you to knock the run out early.
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You to be relentless. Like that's something you
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can't coach is is the way that play style, the
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way myself and Kayla Chase
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on and Adam Butler and Tyree Wilson, the guys are
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flying around hunting the quarterback every single play
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and that's that's what you got to do
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Like you can watch all the film in
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the world but you got to really be
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relentless and like that's what what that's what really
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came down to was us You know even
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the last few match is just you to get
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after the quarterback and you got to hit
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him all day and let him know
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that you're there and breathing down his neck
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and that's that's really what it comes down
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to So I like we always do
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a pretty damn good job of that we've
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been doing like that for a few years
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So yeah, it just shows us like even playing a
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team like that we know they're, they're a a
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dynasty like they're on their way to being dynasty
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if they keep winning and we're
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two and 10 ten right now and we're right there we
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had them, you know what I mean and we've had them
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earlier in the year and we had them last we
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beat them last year on road And it's
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like we, we know at our
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best we could be play with anybody We've proven
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that but at the same time we, we got
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to learn how to not beat ourselves. And that's why
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I feel like it's the biggest issue right now
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Jim Gray with Peter with Peter and Max Crosby.
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Max, we move on on, I detect
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a little bit just
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in your voice you
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Patrick Mahomes now. changed You
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this guy now. tell everybody I
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love Patrick You know know I mean that's why we're close
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to each other every, every time we see each
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other you know that's my guy I I respect hell
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out of him. You know what I mean I look
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at him as the best at his position and
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I look at myself at the best of what I
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do so it's like at the end of
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the day we see each other twice a year
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we know exactly how we like to play
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we know what we're about. about we know our energy
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so it it's a a match made in heaven
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so can't wait to see him. some of those
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conversations like you us inside and tell us?
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either like Pat looks at me and he's like
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that was a good rush. was good shit. like I make step
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up or throw the ball a little quick. He'd
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be like that would have been a a touchdown if you
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weren't there I'm like appreciate it. And then
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there's other times where I'm like, he's like, get
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up, man, get up. I'm I'm like, shut up. I
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mean, that's, that's our conversation sometimes. So, So, conversation you know,
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it gets a little rated from time to
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time, but it's, you know, at the end at
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day, it's all respect. Like we know he
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knows he's running for his life and to, trying
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to make his plays. And for me, my
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job is to literally kill him. So um,
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a match made in heaven. I said, well,
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let's switch the subject because we saw
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something at the end of a
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play yesterday with Trevor Lawrence and
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Aziz Alshair. What exactly can the
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defensive player do? Now, in this
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instance, there was a forearm
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up. It in it dirty. It looks
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nasty. But when guys are
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sliding, the point that coach
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makes, you don't know if they're going to
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slide, if they're going to sidestep slide, they
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go into it late. You've basically left
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the defense with, with no ability to do
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anything. And when a guy's that low and
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a a guy's already on the ground, these
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things can happen. Not speaking
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specifically of that instance
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where obviously the was up.
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But in other instances, you
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guys are in a real difficult
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position and the way that that
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formula works. A hundred percent, a hundred And and obviously
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Trevor, I hope Trevor gets better.
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And hope he's okay. Obviously, it's
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an unfortunate situation. But people perceive
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it as, you you know what I
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mean? He's a dirty player immediately. because
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way he hit Trevor Lawrence, obviously,
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it's unfortunate. You don't want to see
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that happen. But the game, it happens
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so fast, and everything happens so
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fast. and you got to make split
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second decisions. And when a
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quarterback is running, typically
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typically, they're going to be protected. And sometimes don't don't
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know if they're going to slide. Sometimes you don't
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know if they're going to try to run through
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you because sometimes they could tiptoe and then you see Pat
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Mahomes, like he'll run an extra 10 yards on the sideline.
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Cause are scared to hit them. So, you know, in
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that situation, like it did a little, you
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know, it looked a little egregious. But at
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the same time, if you're running a miles an hour,
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hour, you can't just stop on a dime like that
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when you already left your feet. So So don't
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know everybody's intentions. I've seen that he put
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out an apology and I know from afar
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and from you know hearing from You know former
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of his as these is like one
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of the hardest workers one of the like
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just watching his film Like he plays the
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game the right way. So obviously, you
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know, he's getting attacked right now, but I
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think Um, he's a hell of a
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player and I think it's, it's a a learning lesson for
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him. You You to just try your best to be smart,
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you know mean? At the end of the day, it's football.
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There's going to be stuff that happens. that's always,
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you're right here teetering the line at all
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times when you're playing such a fast combat sport.
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At the end of the day, I I just
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hope Trevor Lawrence is all good. You
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know, is going to move forward from this. So yeah,
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it's just an unfortunate situation. Should he
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be suspended? Um, I, you know,
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I'm, I'm a defensive guy. So like, I don't,
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I don't think so. I don't think if he has
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a huge track record, like I don't think he's
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been, you know, how to, has a bunch of
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personal files on his career. He's done a bunch
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of dirty stuff. I think it's just, you know,
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him playing fast and. And unfortunately, it
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You know, just happened to go that way. So no, I I don't
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think you should suspend them. but you never know. You
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never know what happens. You know what I mean? I've
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been fined a ton for like roughing the passers things like
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that. So So really is just going come down
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to. you know, you know, Roger Goodell in
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the league making you know, make an executive decision.
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And it being that public, I feel
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like they're gonna have pressure to like try
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to make to you know, make a statement
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for sure, especially with the quarterback. Max,
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appreciate it. Thanks so much for your time.
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