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I'm doing great. And that was, man, took me

0:37

a long time to go to go to

0:40

sleep after those games last night. The first

0:42

one wasn't so great, but... I mean it

0:44

was great for the Eagles,

0:46

but the second one is really

0:48

one of the big reasons

0:50

why we watch sports. I

0:53

mean Jim, you would have good

0:55

historical perspective in

0:58

all sports, you know, having

1:00

seen so much, especially I

1:02

think in boxing. And I'm

1:04

not going to say that Patrick

1:06

Mahomes and Josh Allen or

1:09

Ali Frazier. I'm not going

1:11

to say they're Michael

1:13

and Isaiah. I don't know what

1:15

they are. Okay, I really don't.

1:17

All I know is today in

1:19

sports 2025, this is good

1:21

as it gets. And Patrick

1:24

Mahomes and Josh Allen play

1:26

games that you remember

1:28

for the rest of your life.

1:30

And my feeling right now

1:33

is we're watching, you know,

1:35

Jim, we're not even at

1:37

halftimeime of Mahomes and Josh

1:39

Allen. You know, you got one

1:41

who just turned 29 and

1:44

one who's still 28. And

1:46

so they're barely like it

1:48

at at half time of

1:50

their, you know, competitiveness.

1:53

And so to me, I think we're

1:55

just fortunate that

1:57

twice a year because they

2:00

usually play in the regular

2:02

season and I think they're gonna

2:04

meet in the playoffs again two

2:07

three four eight times I hope

2:09

you get to see this twice

2:11

a year which I think is

2:13

a gift to everybody in America.

2:16

Not to be a naysayer or

2:18

not to be counter but doesn't

2:20

the other guy have to win

2:23

for it to be a rivalry?

2:25

The regular season is meaningless. Well

2:27

not a rivalry when one guy

2:30

wins all the time. I don't

2:32

think regular season is meaningless. But

2:34

I do think playoffs are significantly

2:37

more important. And now Mahomes leads

2:39

Josh Allen for to nothing in

2:41

the playoffs. And obviously... So Bird

2:44

didn't do that to Magic. Isaiah

2:46

didn't do that to Jordan. We

2:48

can keep going on. Frazier and

2:51

Ali, you know, those were each

2:53

guy one. And so that's why,

2:55

that's why maybe this isn't... that

2:58

yet. And you're right. Yeah, you're

3:00

right. Alan has to beat Mahomes

3:02

for this really to be an

3:05

all-timer. I'm just saying right now,

3:07

Jim, what is the one game

3:09

in sports or the one bout

3:12

in sports? You think of all

3:14

the sports. What game do you

3:16

really want to watch? I suppose

3:18

if you're a baseball fan, you

3:21

say... Man, I hope that the

3:23

Yankees and the Dodgers meet again

3:25

in the World Series. That was

3:28

really fun. I don't think anything

3:30

comes remotely close in hockey. And

3:32

in basketball, who knows? You know,

3:35

the Thunder, you know, all these

3:37

new guys and the Cavs and

3:39

all that, I don't know that

3:42

there is a game in any

3:44

sport right now that excites. people

3:46

in America like this one and

3:49

you're right about that you're right

3:51

about that and drives them nuts

3:53

regardless of who wins and obviously

3:56

you know my homes has has

3:58

lost four out of five in

4:00

the regular season and Josh Allen

4:03

has lost all four in the

4:05

playoffs. So right now it is,

4:07

it is, you're right, it's unbalanced.

4:10

What stood out to you in

4:12

this game? I mean you're the

4:14

encyclopedia, you break this down, you

4:17

see things differently, that's why you

4:19

are who you are. What stood

4:21

out and stands out to you

4:23

as you put this in the

4:26

memory bank? Jim on Sunday morning,

4:28

I texted Andy Reed. and just

4:30

wished him good luck and I

4:33

said you know I'll be watching

4:35

because in every game every big

4:37

game you do something that I

4:40

didn't see coming or or that

4:42

was really important at an important

4:44

period of time all right and

4:47

so I was waiting the whole

4:49

game I'm looking at this and

4:51

finally 10 minutes 20 seconds left

4:54

in the game Kansas City's down

4:56

by a point 22 to 21

4:58

Ball is at the Buffalo 10.

5:01

They're moving it But it's not

5:03

like there. It's there's no doubt.

5:05

They're going to get it in

5:08

Okay So here comes this weird

5:10

formation and it's gotten my homes

5:12

in the pistol five yards behind

5:15

the line of scrimmage Kareem hunt

5:17

right behind him and you know

5:19

a normal formation. However, he's got

5:22

510 pounds or whatever it would

5:24

be of side cars. Noah Gray

5:26

to his right. Travis Kelsey to

5:28

his left. And I said, here's

5:31

something I've never seen before. Travis

5:33

Kelsey and Noah Gray both, almost

5:35

like personal protectors, his own secret

5:38

service. And, you know, my homes

5:40

takes the ball. He plays actions

5:42

to cream hunt. because it looks

5:45

for all the world to see,

5:47

like a running play. And he,

5:49

you know, he play actions to

5:52

cream hunt and then all of

5:54

a sudden, he's got this convoy

5:56

of these two tight ends and

5:59

a guard and a tackle right

6:01

in front of them. And Mahomes

6:03

just goes the last 10 yards

6:06

and gets a touchdown to put

6:08

Kansas City ahead and obviously they

6:10

never trail again. That to me,

6:13

you know. I get it, everybody,

6:15

so many people don't want to

6:17

see Kansas City in another Super

6:20

Bowl, they want the new. And

6:22

believe me, I love Buffalo, I

6:24

love the city, I love this

6:27

team, it's a great team. I

6:29

just think at the time when

6:31

it's biggest, Andy Reid and Patrick

6:33

Mahomes, Matt Negge, the underrated guy

6:36

in what Kansas City does. a

6:38

brain, a bit of brain power

6:40

to help Andy Reed, those guys

6:43

figure out, hey, Buffalo hasn't seen

6:45

this before, they haven't seen two

6:47

tight ends as sidecars, how are

6:50

they going to defend this? And

6:52

it worked, and I thought it

6:54

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know, I'm not so sure that

7:13

people don't want to see Kansas

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City. People want to see history.

7:18

Yeah. And to me, to me,

7:20

if they are able to win

7:22

this 3P, this will be, this

7:25

will replace the 72 Dolphins as

7:27

perhaps the greatest achievement in professional

7:29

football. To do this in this

7:32

era at this time with all

7:34

the constraints, with this core. You

7:36

know I wrote this book talking

7:38

to goats. These guys are going

7:41

to be goats forever if they

7:43

pull this off. Yeah. forever. And

7:45

so I kind of want to

7:48

see that. I think everybody wants

7:50

to see that. I want to

7:52

see Carl Lewis win his ninth

7:55

gold medal in Michael Phelps. I

7:57

want to see Simone Biles. I

7:59

want to see Ali win that

8:02

third heavyweight title. I want to

8:04

see history. I want to see

8:06

Tom Brady win seven of these.

8:09

Yeah. So I think Michael Jordan,

8:11

a three-pete. So I think there's

8:13

kind of an excitement this time

8:16

about the chiefs. Maybe they're not

8:18

America's team. in terms of people

8:20

are tired of all of that,

8:23

but get over yourselves. We want

8:25

to see history. We all, not

8:27

if you're obviously in Philadelphia, but

8:30

I mean, isn't that kind of

8:32

the object of it all to

8:34

see what we've never seen before

8:37

to see heights and achievement and

8:39

excellence? I find it stunning, startling,

8:41

whatever the word is that in

8:43

the last 24 games that matter.

8:46

you know that that counted and

8:48

I'm not counting the the last

8:50

game of this season Kansas City

8:53

at Denver because Kansas City was

8:55

resting there guys that didn't mean

8:57

anything but in the last 24

9:00

games that matter you know basically

9:02

since New Year's Eve 2023 I

9:04

guess it would be Kansas City's

9:07

23 and 1 and that just

9:09

that is like when the paid

9:11

almost like when the Patriots won

9:14

19 in a row. Startling, it's

9:16

really good. But anyway, for Kansas

9:18

City to be 23 in one

9:21

when every game they play, the

9:23

other team is shooting for them,

9:25

you know, to knock them down.

9:28

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9:30

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aren't they like some crazy... now

9:53

12 and 0 in one score

9:55

games? Yeah, look that's just the

9:58

mark to me of a great

10:00

team and that's one of the

10:02

reasons why I really dislike it

10:05

when after a game like this

10:07

there's so much talk about officiating

10:09

and this as we now will

10:12

go ahead and talk about officiating.

10:14

Yeah but but I know I

10:16

want to talk about it Jim

10:19

you know I just can I

10:21

just preface my remarks about officiating

10:23

by saying that I forget what

10:26

year this was, 89, 90, 91,

10:28

where George Young, who was obviously

10:30

the old Giants general manager, the

10:33

ultimate traditionalist, and, you know, he

10:35

hated, he hated free agency, you

10:37

know, hated so much about what

10:40

was happening to the game, but

10:42

he used to tell me that,

10:44

said the problem with replay, is

10:47

that you're trying to make an

10:49

imperfect game perfect. and you're never

10:51

gonna make a game where there

10:53

isn't a mistake by an official,

10:56

even if you have replay. So

10:58

let's look at those two calls

11:00

yesterday. One of them, whether Xavier

11:03

Worthy or the Buffalo Defender, and

11:05

I forget who it was, are

11:07

wrestling for the ball, and they

11:10

both come down, and the officials

11:12

rule. that Xavier Worthy catches the

11:14

ball. So now it goes into

11:17

the replay process. Now, when we

11:19

look at the replay process, I

11:21

think the best thing for the

11:24

officials to do, had you been

11:26

able to see the replay before

11:28

you make the call, is to

11:31

call it incomplete. Because, you know,

11:33

both guys seem to have some

11:35

possession of it, the ball hits

11:38

the ground and all that. Now,

11:40

when you look at it in

11:42

the light of... To overturn a

11:45

call there has to be clear

11:47

and irrefutable evidence that the ball

11:49

absolutely was not caught or moved

11:52

on the ground. And I don't

11:54

think you can do that. I

11:56

don't think you have to have

11:58

clear possession. Who has clear possession

12:01

at that point? I thought that

12:03

that's the first thing. But Jim,

12:05

in that particular play, you're right.

12:08

If you're looking at it and

12:10

you say, man, like what I

12:12

said at the beginning, that I

12:15

don't know that you can call

12:17

that complete or an interception based

12:19

on five replays. But. What happens

12:22

is officials are calling what they

12:24

think they see at the moment

12:26

that the play happens and then

12:29

they rely on replay if necessary

12:31

to fix it. And in my

12:33

opinion, there wasn't enough evidence. I

12:36

watched that play 15 times. The

12:38

ball either didn't move at all

12:40

when it hit the ground and

12:43

when it doesn't move, if you

12:45

have the ball either nestle to

12:47

your body or in your hands.

12:50

That doesn't, just because it hits

12:52

the ground, it doesn't mean that

12:54

it's an incompletion. And you know,

12:57

and obviously the other one was

12:59

more difficult and had I been

13:01

a replay official on that, there's

13:03

a very good chance I would

13:06

have said Josh Allen made the

13:08

first down. But the problem with

13:10

this is, Jim, I think the

13:13

decisive replay look. was from SkyCam,

13:15

where it showed the ball and

13:17

appeared to show the ball at

13:20

least a little. As Jean Steritor

13:22

said on television, about a third

13:24

of the ball looked to be

13:27

over the line of scrimmage. Or

13:29

the line to gain. Was that

13:31

replay used? I saw it somewhere

13:34

after the game. Was that replay

13:36

used by New York? I don't

13:38

know. I don't know. I don't

13:41

know. I don't know. I don't

13:43

know. I don't know. I don't

13:45

know. I don't know. I don't

13:48

know. I don't know. I don't

13:50

know. I can't answer it. But

13:52

when I saw that replay, I

13:55

said it looks like a... was

13:57

over. The problem with that replay

13:59

is it looked like, and I'm

14:02

just going to guess, that it

14:04

was about five yards away from

14:06

being directly overhead. So you didn't

14:08

get a clear view of the

14:11

thing right on the line. And

14:13

that's the problem there. I'm going

14:15

to say one last thing about

14:18

replay and then let's get on

14:20

because we, you know, it's silly.

14:22

Enjoy the game. Enjoy the game.

14:25

I would have been euphoric if

14:27

either team won because it was

14:29

such a great game. But the

14:32

problem with replay, one of them,

14:34

is that in a game like

14:36

that you have several people potentially

14:39

talking to Cleat Blakeman on his

14:41

earpiece in New York. And they've

14:43

got beautiful pristine views. You know,

14:46

every camera view is piped into

14:48

New York. And the replay official

14:50

upstairs. He's got a pristine view

14:53

and you're asking Cleat Blakeman, okay,

14:55

to look at the same view,

14:57

only he's got a little tablet

15:00

on the field. Is there glare

15:02

on it? Is it clear? Is

15:04

it fine? The officials should go

15:07

back under the hood and they

15:09

should have a bigger screen to

15:11

look at. That's a big pet

15:13

peeve of mine. Because how can

15:16

you ask the official on the

15:18

field who's in charge? Okay, even

15:20

though he's listening to advice from

15:23

New York, it's his head. You

15:25

know, it's on the line. How

15:27

can you ask him to make

15:30

a call on a microscopic play

15:32

like that when he's using a

15:34

tablet that I don't know what

15:37

a tablet is, what is that,

15:39

9 by 12? I don't even

15:41

know what it is. It's not

15:44

a huge high-deft TVs, I can

15:46

tell you that much. Anyway, that's

15:48

kind of what I think. Why

15:51

are we having sticks and chains?

15:53

And guys, you know, running 25

15:56

yards away to try and mark

15:58

this. and think that that's going

16:00

to be accurate in this day

16:02

and age of technology. They can

16:04

call something in tennis instantaneously where

16:07

the ball is. It's going to

16:09

change. Yeah, it'll change. But it's

16:11

too late now. The absurdity of

16:13

it. It's not too late. No,

16:16

I'm saying it's too late for

16:18

this instance. Well, of course. So

16:20

that's a B. Step into the

16:22

technology. Yeah. B. What I want

16:24

to say is something interesting. There

16:27

was a referee in the NBA.

16:29

His name was Earl. Yeah. And

16:31

great referee, a colorful guy, I

16:33

believe he's even in the Hall

16:35

of Fame. And Julius Irving was

16:38

playing for a championship before he

16:40

won in 1983. So it was

16:42

one of those finals in the

16:44

early 80s and he hadn't won.

16:47

And I was riding back from

16:49

the game with Julius in his

16:51

car. I lived in Philadelphia. I

16:53

said Julius Boy, Earl was awful

16:55

tonight. And he says, Jim, I've

16:58

played thousands of games. The referees

17:00

have never cost me a game.

17:02

And I never forgot that. Here's

17:04

one of the great players ever.

17:06

And people will say he was

17:09

favored because he was Dr. Jay,

17:11

like Michael Jordan, like Patrick Mahomes,

17:13

like Tom Brady, that there's favoritism.

17:15

But on that evening, Earl Strong

17:17

was atrocious. Not once, not twice,

17:20

but the entire game. Cost him

17:22

the game. But that was his

17:24

response. So that's my response to

17:26

all of this too. Yes, they

17:29

make bad calls. Yes, there is

17:31

a human element, but the great

17:33

players overcome the efficiency. They overcome

17:35

it. I totally agree. And that's

17:37

why I find and look, I

17:40

don't root for any look. I

17:42

shouldn't say that when I was

17:44

a writer covering sports for 44

17:46

years, I never once walked into

17:48

a press box, you know, cheering

17:51

rooting for a team. I just

17:53

didn't do that. You know what

17:55

I rooted for? I rooted for

17:57

my story. Okay, but now look

18:00

I've got a daughter who loves

18:02

the Pittsburgh Steelers. I've got a

18:04

grandson who loves the Pittsburgh Steelers

18:06

So let's wave that terrible towel

18:08

go Steelers, you know, that's kind

18:11

of how I feel now. But

18:13

here's what I will say. I

18:15

cannot, as a fan, because that's

18:17

mostly what I am right now,

18:19

I cannot as a fan wake

18:22

up on Monday morning angry because

18:24

I didn't like a call in

18:26

the game. You know what I

18:28

wake up on Monday morning thinking?

18:31

Holy cow, that's one of the

18:33

best football games I've seen in

18:35

a long time. I don't allow

18:37

it to be ruined by the

18:39

human element. which sometimes either makes

18:42

mistakes or maybe didn't perform as

18:44

well as we hoped it would.

18:46

And that's how I feel about

18:48

it. And by the way, after

18:50

44 years, you're the only guy

18:53

who can say this. Your story

18:55

is undefeated. It is. You were

18:57

rooting for it and you won

18:59

every time. Well, actually I lost

19:02

a lot of times, man. A

19:04

lot of good stories stayed in

19:06

the notebook because my team lost

19:08

and I mean the team I

19:10

was going to write about lost.

19:13

In Sports Illustrated, there are many

19:15

stories of many tales of stories

19:17

that died a slow death in

19:19

the notebook and just never appeared

19:21

again, but that's the way life

19:24

goes. Jim Gray with Peter King,

19:26

we're here on Let's Go. It's

19:28

great to have Andy Reed on.

19:30

It was great to have Coach

19:32

Bill Bellichek, Max Crosby. Now we're

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Peter first of all I'm astonished

19:46

I believe you told me during

19:48

the week you've been to 41

19:50

Super Bowls and This year you're

19:52

gonna watch this from home. I'm

19:55

gonna watch it from home happily

19:57

I really want to watch it

19:59

from home if I had an

20:01

offer to go to the game

20:03

almost certainly I would say no

20:06

because Jim it I haven't watched

20:08

a game at home since I

20:10

think it was 1983 so I

20:12

I am looking forward to it,

20:15

quite honestly. I want to experience

20:17

what everybody experiences. I never see

20:19

these commercials. Everybody says, oh, what

20:21

was the great commercial in the

20:23

Super Bowl? How would I know?

20:26

I don't watch. TV in the

20:28

press box. I'm not one of

20:30

those who says, oh on Monday,

20:32

I'm going to find some site

20:34

on the internet where I can

20:37

watch these commercials. I don't care.

20:39

But be that as it may,

20:41

I'm really looking forward to it.

20:43

And I think, Jim, this is

20:46

going to be a good game.

20:48

I'll say this about Philadelphia. You

20:50

know, we're talking so much of

20:52

our Kansas Sea. I want to

20:54

stop you before we get into

20:57

this. Aside. Aside from the commercials,

20:59

what about the experience at home.

21:01

that you want to take in

21:03

after not having this for 42

21:05

years? Many times when you're at

21:08

a game, it's very hard to

21:10

see everything that you can see

21:12

when there are 70 cameras showing

21:14

everything at a Super Bowl. So,

21:17

you know, like yesterday, I drove

21:19

my wife crazy, uh, going back,

21:21

because I wanted to see all

21:23

I wanted to see the... You

21:25

know, the James Cook touchdown run

21:28

like eight or nine times, who

21:30

made the block, who, you know,

21:32

how close was his knee to

21:34

going down before he stretched his

21:36

arm. That's one of the great

21:39

touchdowns I've ever seen. That was

21:41

unbelievable. I hate that that gets

21:43

sort of lost in the sauce,

21:45

but those are the kind of

21:47

things, you know, if you're at

21:50

a press box, you can't... you

21:52

know, have your clicker here and

21:54

you can't go back and watch

21:56

something 10 times. And the great

21:59

thing about doing that is it

22:01

allows you to miss the commercials.

22:03

You can just watch a play,

22:05

a play, a play, and then

22:07

after two and a half minutes,

22:10

well, I better get back to

22:12

the game. So that's one of

22:14

the things I kind of like

22:16

doing when I'm watching a game

22:18

at home. The Super Bowl, now

22:21

the game. Yeah. Click her in

22:23

hand. What are you looking forward

22:25

to? I'll tell you there's two

22:27

things that, you know, aside from

22:30

I always think that Andy Reid

22:32

and Steve Spagnolo come up with

22:34

something that nobody was expecting. You

22:36

know, whether it's, you know, Tom

22:38

and Jerry last year, you know,

22:41

any number of things. There's something

22:43

that occurred to me last night

22:45

when I was thinking about this

22:47

matchup. And that is that, you

22:49

know, if you just think about

22:52

it, during the game yesterday, I

22:54

saw the Eagles trainers or somebody

22:56

working on the calf of Saekwan

22:58

Berkeley with one of those Thera

23:01

guns. Have you ever heard of

23:03

those things? You know this Thera

23:05

gun, this thing that you know

23:07

that basically vibrates and... So massage

23:09

kind of tool that... Exactly. Yeah.

23:12

Yeah. Stimulates blood flow or whatever

23:14

it does. Yeah. So they were

23:16

doing that and I said, man,

23:18

how has Saekwan managed... to stay

23:20

upright, you know, for with all

23:23

the stuff. So I just I

23:25

added it up. And this year,

23:27

Saekwan has carried the ball 411

23:29

times in 19 games, and he's

23:31

caught 41 passes in 19 games.

23:34

So that's 452 touches from scrimmage.

23:36

And You know, he's probably happy

23:38

and I'm sure the Eagles are

23:40

happy because of the other injuries

23:43

they have that he's going to

23:45

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American Express. Peter, a lot of

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coaching vacancies have been filled. As

24:16

we record this, the only opening

24:18

still is in New Orleans. What

24:20

are your thoughts on Brian Schattenheimer?

24:22

Let's start with him. I think

24:25

it's... one of the most uninspired

24:27

hires I've seen in a long

24:29

time. I don't really understand how

24:31

the cowboys got to this point.

24:33

You know, the cowboys used to

24:36

be a premier job in the

24:38

NFL that everybody wanted. And again,

24:40

you know, why Jerry Jones did

24:42

not either go hard after Bill

24:45

Bellichick or, you know, inquire and

24:47

talk to Bill Bellichick, and talk

24:49

to Bill Bellichick, and talk to

24:51

Bill Bellichick. I remember more than

24:53

two decades ago when he very

24:56

quietly flew his plane up to

24:58

Teeterboro, a little airstrip in New

25:00

Jersey, and met Bill Parcels on

25:02

that, and they talked for two

25:04

or three hours, and Jerry said,

25:07

I think I can work with

25:09

this guy. I just don't understand

25:11

this. I don't understand what's happened

25:13

to the Dallas Cowboys. And to

25:16

me, I... I just think, I've

25:18

said this, I said it on

25:20

this show a few weeks ago,

25:22

I just think the cowboys need

25:24

an intervention with Jerry Jones. Somebody

25:27

has to go to him and

25:29

say, listen, you know, you don't,

25:31

you know, when you're in your

25:33

80s, you know, every year after

25:35

that is an absolute gift. And

25:38

you constantly talk about wanting to

25:40

win another Super Bowl. And again,

25:42

look, Brian Schottenheimer could be a

25:44

great head coach. He certainly has

25:46

the, you know, the jeans for

25:49

it, you know, with his dad.

25:51

But, you know, he's been in

25:53

the league for an awful long

25:55

time. And he's never been close

25:58

to getting a job. Has Jerry

26:00

and Stephen Jones just seen something

26:02

that the rest of the league

26:04

didn't? I doubt it. But I

26:06

just I find it hard to

26:09

understand this seemed to me the

26:11

classic case of Settling for a

26:13

guy you're comfortable with rather than

26:15

going out and seeking excellence Jacksonville

26:17

and the Tampa saga. Explain this

26:20

to the folks, what's going on

26:22

here, Peter. Well, it's a long

26:24

story, but I just think the

26:26

two parts of this story that

26:29

would really, really bother me if

26:31

I were hiring Liam Cohen is

26:33

that he made a contractual agreement.

26:35

When the Tampa Bay Buccaneers asked

26:37

him, hey, listen, we'd really like

26:40

to keep you as offensive coordinator

26:42

here, give us a number and

26:44

we'll go to ownership to see

26:46

if we can make it happen.

26:48

Liam Cohen gave him a number.

26:51

They went to ownership and ownership

26:53

said, yes, we'll do it, but

26:55

this is our final offer. This

26:57

is it. And we want to

27:00

know by tomorrow if you're going

27:02

to accept it. Well, he put

27:04

him off for two days and

27:06

then he asked him for more

27:08

money this according to Albert Breer

27:11

He asked him for more money.

27:13

I mean that the first thing

27:15

there just really bugs me and

27:17

then after he said he would

27:19

be in to sign the contract

27:22

On whatever day it was Thursday

27:24

He is spotted later in that

27:26

day at the Jacksonville facility and

27:28

clearly You're not at the Jacksonville

27:31

facility if you're not negotiating with

27:33

this country for this job. And

27:35

so I just think that I

27:37

think the moral of the story

27:39

is there's probably a good reason

27:42

why this is going to be

27:44

Liam Cohen's sixth job in six

27:46

years. I would never trust him

27:48

again. And what really bothers me

27:50

probably more than anything is he

27:53

had this a nice statement about,

27:55

oh, how he's so grateful to

27:57

everybody in Tampa, and I can't

27:59

wait to get to work in

28:01

Jacksonville. How about apologizing for going

28:04

back on your word? How about

28:06

admitting that you misled Tampa Bay

28:08

along the way? I just think

28:10

it's, you know, a lot of

28:13

people would say, hey, listen, he's

28:15

a head coach in the NFL

28:17

and he's making so much more

28:19

money than he could make as

28:21

a coordinator. Okay, that's fine. What's

28:24

your word worth actually? What is

28:26

your word worth? Is it worth

28:28

anything? Or once somebody offers you

28:30

more money? Does your word go

28:32

down the toilet? In this case,

28:35

Liam Cohen's word did. Don't these

28:37

things happen in sports? I mean,

28:39

Stan Van Gundy was getting ready

28:41

to take a job with the

28:44

Sacramento Kings. Actually agreed to it

28:46

many years ago. Is leaving on

28:48

the Maloof's plane, heading back home,

28:50

when in fact he's going to

28:52

Orlando to take the job with

28:55

the magic. They stopped the plane

28:57

on the runway. Say, no, if

28:59

you're going there. Why are you

29:01

on our? Why are you on

29:03

our? Why are you? Why are

29:06

you? Why are you? Why are

29:08

you? So these things happen. Josh

29:10

McDaniels, didn't he agree to a

29:12

deal in, I'm not defending the

29:15

man, I'm just saying this isn't

29:17

uncommon, these things happen. They do

29:19

happen, but the way that Cohen

29:21

did this, instead of calling the

29:23

bucks and saying, listen, I can't

29:26

take this job. I know I

29:28

told you that I would, I

29:30

can't take it. They never heard

29:32

from him. They never heard from

29:34

him for whatever, a day or

29:37

two. And by the time they

29:39

actually heard from him, he's in

29:41

Jacksonville looking at this job. He

29:43

just, he did this in a

29:46

real backdoor, backhanded way. At least

29:48

Josh McDaniels, when he decided he

29:50

couldn't do it, he called Chris

29:52

Ballard in Indianapolis and said, I

29:54

don't know how to say this

29:57

and I'm sorry, but I can't

29:59

take this job. Peter great week

30:01

as always appreciate your time and

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