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This episode is recorded on Gavigal

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Land of the Aurora Nation. Hi

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guys and welcome back to another episode of Live

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Fun Cat. I'm Laura. I'm Brittany. And this is

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the pickup, our radio show where we package up

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all the best bits from what we set on

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radio this week and we bring here so that

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you don't have to listen to radio. Because not

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everyone does. We unpacked a bit of maps this

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week, didn't we? We did it across both though.

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We were like radio maths, we were podcast maths,

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we were everywhere maths. I want to say maths

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is the gift that keeps that keeps on giving,

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but it, but it, is the gift that keeps

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on giving. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

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I mean, we talked about testosterone. So there was

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a guy on math who said to his wife

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that he wouldn't have sex with her on

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the days that he had to go to

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the gym or before going to the gym

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because he didn't want to give her the

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testosterone. He wanted to give it to the

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chin up bars. He didn't want to give

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it to the chin up bars. He didn't

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want to waste it on the bicep bars.

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He wanted it for the bicep bars. And

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I think, you know what, you're not an

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Olympian. You're not a professional athlete.

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You're not a professional athlete. You're just a

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gym bro, I don't think it matters that

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much if you bang and then go on

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to a workout. I would agree and I

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think that that is exactly where we got

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to in that discussion, but also I cannot

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wrap my head around the fact of how

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jealous I would be of the gym. If

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my boyfriend was like, sorry I must save

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this for the gym, I'd be like, who's

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gym? What are you doing there? What are

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you needed for at the gym, Powell?

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Because I'm slightly insane, but that's okay,

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you guys already know that. Also this

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week, last weekend, Matt got stung by

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a blue bottle at the beach. Actually,

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he got somebody multiple blue bottles. He

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got really taken down by them. You're

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savage. He did. He got savage, round

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the neck, round the back, and crack.

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But... I discovered that there is a

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very Australian way of treating blue bottle

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stings. I was completely unaware about. Which

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is crazy because everyone listening right now

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has heard it. So the question on

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everyone's lips is did I or didn't

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I piss on my husband? Find out.

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You'll have to wait to find out.

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All right, let's get into it. Last

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week we spoke about a woman in

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the States who was going viral because

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she had decided to have no children

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at her wedding. Then someone had rocked

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up at her wedding and the poor

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thing Claire had to suffer through a

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screaming baby through her vows. Have a

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listen to this. She's standing up there

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at the front doing her vows and

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all of a sudden she hears this.

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But I'm the only one that knows

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them. And one of the questions I

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asked was, when did you know you

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were in love and wanted to spend

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the rest of your life together as

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husband and wife? Claire has come out

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and said she is now an advocate

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for completely child-free weddings because of this

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experience. And I think, go off Claire,

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really lend your time to stuff that

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matters in the world. Do you go

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run to a wedding scene if his

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kids are there and take him out?

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Like, what are you doing? Well, we

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can ask that question. Claire, what are

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you doing? Because we have Claire on

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the line all the way from the

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States. We have so many questions for

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you about how this unfolded, but Claire,

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welcome to the show. Thanks, guys for

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having me. I know there are so

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many questions, and I'm ready to answer,

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so. Thanks guys for having me. Well,

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I'm sure you didn't expect it to

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go so viral. It's had more than

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3 million views. So I'm assuming the

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person in question has seen this. Are

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you still friends with the owner of

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the small screaming child? The parent. I

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don't know. I don't know if this

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person has seen it. I have not

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talked to them. They have not given

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an apology, but I haven't heard from

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them. At this point I hope that

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they haven't seen it. We saw it

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here in Australia. So I'm pretty sure

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your friend that was at the wedding

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has seen it. Maybe they've just gone

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cold because they're so embarrassed. I don't

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know. They went cold after the wedding

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too. So wait, what happened? So when

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you, did you say anything during your

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vows? Did you interrupt? So there was

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nothing that was mentioned during the wedding?

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No, my eyes said at all. That's why

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I gave this. Okay, if you don't

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know what Claire's talking about in the

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clip, I've never seen quite such a

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profound stink eye that's come from a

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bride in midvows, but obviously it's very

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distracting. Anyone who's listened to that would...

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feel horrified if they had to listen

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through a baby screaming through their vows.

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And this comes from someone who has

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kids. I've been to loads of weddings

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that have children and loads of weddings

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that don't have kids. But I think

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the respectable thing is that if your

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kid starts crying, you pick them up and

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you walk out so that the wedding can

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carry on uninterrupted. So did this person who

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was at your wedding just stay through the

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whole thing? They didn't even attempt to remove

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the child. Well, here's a little bit more to

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the story that I will tell you. Right

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before the wedding started, I guess

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the baby was being fussy. So

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this person walked out with the baby

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before the processional. Well, they made

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their way back into the ceremony

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area when the wedding coordinator said,

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no, you cannot enter. Because I

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know a lot of people on

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takeoff were asking, why didn't the

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wedding coordinator do something? Am I a

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wedding coordinator? Was a 10 out of 10.

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So no hate to her and no hate

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to the offician. They were awesome. And

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so this person. They just wanted to

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see the ceremony. Claire, was this your

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side of the family or your

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partner's side of the family? I cannot

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tell you. So how are you, I

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mean, we have heard now that you

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are an advocate for child free weddings.

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So what are you doing here? Are

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you picketing? Is there a minibus where

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you're kidnapping the small children at weddings?

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What are you doing to stop this

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travesty? Yeah. I mean, some

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people advocate for like women's

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rights. And you know, so

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I started like a non-for-profit

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where I raise money

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for fueling my bus

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that goes around town

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and when I hear

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children crying at weddings, I

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whisk them away. You go

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take them. I'm going to tell

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you, Claire, you are hilarious. Honestly, I

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think anybody, no matter whether you've got

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kids yourself or whether you had a

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kid-free wedding, I don't think that there's

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a single person who would listen to

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that audio and think, oh, that's exactly

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what I want to interrupt my vows.

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Well, Claire, I am getting married in

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a couple of months. I might have

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to fly you over and put you

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at the door. Stop kids getting into

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my wedding. I won. How did you

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actually see, because I know we spoke

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about it here on the pickup, we

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put it on our socials, did we

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tag you Claire? Because I was like,

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did we tag you or did you

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just stumble across it? No, you straight

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up added me and I was like,

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who is this? Also Brit, you even

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said it on the radio break, you

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were like, tag Claire, I need to

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know how is she advocating? Well Maths

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is just a show that keeps on

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giving... We will once upon a time

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called The Pick Up and now we're

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just the Maths Recap Show. The Maths

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Up. This week is Couples Retreat Week

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on Maths where they go away and

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the girls get to go hang out

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with the girls, the guys get to

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hang out with the guys, and they

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all mix together and it's supposed to

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be all wonderful and wholesome. Yeah, it's

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like the retreat from hell. Jackie and

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Ryan. And Jackie has made quite an

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interesting revelation about their sex life. He

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only wants to have sex. He's not

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training. Like as in he was on

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his sex after training and never in

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the morning. It has to be at

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night after training because he wants to

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like save his test. He says. What?

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Apparently he's frustrated how to work out.

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Is this real? I've never heard that

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and can no one tell my husband

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because I don't need him saving his

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hospital for the gym. It's pretty funny.

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I think it's... a bit of a

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stretch for him like he's just a

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gym bro I don't want to like

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talk him down but you're not a

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you're not going to the Olympics you're

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not a professional athlete you're literally just

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going to do some bicep girls. I

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think it's a pretty big call to

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be like I can't possibly have sex.

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Yes, it's outrageous. I would be offended

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if my partner was like, sorry, I

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cannot be intimate with you because I

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have to go to the gym later.

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I would be like, wow, your priorities

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are not quite aligned with mine. However,

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I do think it's a bit cheeky

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of her to sit amongst all the

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girls knowing it's filmed and mock him

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for that. Like that is pretty bad

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behaviour as well. I would normally agree,

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except he did something similar earlier on,

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and he was talking about their sex

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life to the boys. So I'm not

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a tip for Tata. I'm not a

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tip for Tata, but I can't go

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after one if I don't go after

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the other, so they're as bad as

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each other. But I think the interesting

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thing here is, and maybe someone needs

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to call Ryan and let him know.

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But he's saying that he doesn't want

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to do the deed, because he needs

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to save his testosterone for the gym,

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but that's not even medically or factually

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correct. Doing the deed increases your test

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off train. Thank you medical Brittany Hockley.

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That is exactly the information we all

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need. Well it's actually the opposite. There's

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been tests for women and men and

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both... people's testosterone increases after doing the

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deed. Although there are so many professional

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athletes who've said that they won't, you

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know, finish the deed because they have

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to, or they won't even do it

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because they have to try and save

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all their strength for whatever competition they've

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got. Well, funnily enough, I'm marrying a

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professional athlete. So I did do my

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own due diligence and I spoke to

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Ben about it and I asked Ben

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to speak to his, the literal sporting

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performance coach. So this is at a

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professional football team in Italy. his sole

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job is performance. And he said it's

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actually correct that you can't do the

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deed beforehand. All it comes down to

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is energy conservation. So most athletes, for

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example, I'll use Ben's sporting team. Even

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if they're playing a home match, so

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if they're playing 10 minutes from their

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home, the night before the entire team

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has to go and stay to a

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hotel together. And the purpose of that

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is to remove any distractions so that

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you're not doing the deed. It is,

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and wives. Yep, so that they know

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what time you're going to bed, they

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know what food you're eating. Like they

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know everything that you're doing in 24

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hours before the match. But in terms

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of the horizontal dance of love, it's

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not about. finishing. It's about conserving your

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energy because they're like if you're going

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to go and have a marathon session

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with your partner you're not going to

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have the energy for the next day.

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I mean look I can understand it

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if a professional athlete is putting it

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into practice because they've done all of

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the training and all of the like

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everything that they do their entire life

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is built around this competition I don't

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understand it if you're going to the

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gym on a Monday Wednesday and a

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Thursday to do some pull-ups. I don't

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get it. And I'm curious question. I

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would be deeply offended if my husband

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was like, sorry babe, I'm going to

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the gym. So like up until 3

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p.m. is completely like off the table

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for us to be intimate together. There's

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actually one of the most famous football

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strikers in the world. Rinaldo. He's actually

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one of the most famous football strikers

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in the world. Rinaldo. He's like one

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of the best. One of the most

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famous football strikers in the world. Ryan

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did turn around and he said that

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if Jackie reveals anything else about their

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sex life ever again he's gonna end

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the relationship God well hold your breath

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everyone so dramatic on back on the

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weekend something happened to my husband bat

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which resulted in many people that we

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were with telling me that I should

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pee on my husband which let me

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get stung by blue bottle yeah is

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that it that's it yes how did

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you know well because that's the number

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one treatment for a blue bottle sting

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is we Peeing on someone cannot be

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the number one treatment. Okay, so we

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were at the beach. We'd been there

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all morning and had no idea. We

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were swimming with the girls having a

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great time and then something must have

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changed in the current and there was

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an entire swarm that got washed in.

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There was like hundreds of them, hundreds.

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And at that moment Matt had gone

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for a swim, but he was really

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far out and he'd gotten stuck. little

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goggles on, who was swimming around the

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rocks. But he honestly, he was so

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far. on one side that it was

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not possible for him to come back

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in without getting stunk. There was just

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so many of them. And he came

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in and I could see that he'd

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been getting absolutely blasted by them on

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the way and he got one wrapped

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around his neck. He had one over

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his shoulder, he had one down his

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back, he had one over his shoulder,

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he had one down his back, like

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he got him good, really good. Like

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that's like a horror movie. I walked

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in and he was like feeling very

12:23

sorry for himself for himself and shaking

12:25

for himself and shaking, and shaking for

12:27

himself and shaking a little. had never

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heard this before. I never heard, like

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growing up in Australia, the one thing

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you know growing up that you're taught

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is like, you're taught how to swim,

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you taught how to ride a bike,

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and you taught when you get stung

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by a blue bottle, let you wee

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on it. It's even so weird to

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me that like, even she was like,

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I mean, I'll, even so weird to

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me that like, I mean, I mean,

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I mean, I'll, even so weird to

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me that like, I mean, I mean,

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even she was like, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

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I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, I mean, I mean, I mean,

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I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, even so weird to, I mean,

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I mean, I mean, I mean, even

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so weird to, I mean, I mean,

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I mean, I mean, I mean, I

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mean, even so weird to, I mean,

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I mean, I mean, I mean, Did

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you win on him? No, this is

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not normal everyone. She's like, oh, you

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know, when Kate was young, I once

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we'd in a bottle and had to

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pour it on her. And I was

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like, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. We need

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to back this up. So yeah, she

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apparently, you know, 25 years ago, it

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was thought of that this was like

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the one thing that you did. I

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think it went from we. to vinegar

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and water, like that became a popular

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way of treating blue bottles. I think

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because it's acidic, I think the legend

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goes that it was like something to

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do with that. So I thought it

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wasn't a city, I thought it had

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to do with the warmth, like the

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warm, like the warm water neutralizes. It's

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not the warmth, it's not the warm,

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like the warm water neutralizes. It's not

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the warmth, because otherwise you just put

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a hot water bottle, it's absolutely, just...

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normal fresh water. You should not be

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weighing on each other, don't we on

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your husband. Unless you're into that. unless

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that's your king. Like it's not gonna

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help a blue bottle sting. So funny

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because whilst growing up I know that

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that was like what people say you

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do, right? I didn't actually ever know

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anyone to do it. But now I

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know your mother and law weed into

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a bottle and tip that on her

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kid. That's pretty cooked when you say

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it out loud. It did make me

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think though. There are so many bad

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wives tales that we've been told are

14:37

good solutions for things that go wrong.

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Another one like if you've. I would

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just like to say, if you're still

14:43

rubbing a gold ring on a stye,

14:45

very unhygienic, not a good idea, lots

14:47

of bacteria, nothing like rubbing bacteria into

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bacteria to really inflame that stye you've

14:51

got. You know what I do think

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you can do? I think it's real.

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I think it's real. Is the teabag?

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You know what I do think you

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can do? I think it's real. I

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think you can do. I think what

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I was covered... in freckles. You have

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no freckles now. Yeah, lazed them off.

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Right, so it wasn't a treatment that

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you used. Just when I was like

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a kid, like a young kid, I

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was in the sun, you obviously you

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don't wear makeup as a kid, you

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don't cover them. I've still got little

15:20

freckles, I just cover them, but I

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read that you could massage lemon juice,

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so I used to like cut lemon

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juice, and it's also like the same...

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that we would do when we put

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in our hair, but like, I mean

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it worked, it did bleach your hair,

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but it also destroyed it in the

15:37

making. Other things are like putting potato

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slices on your head to treat migraines.

15:41

That's meant to be like an all-wife's

15:43

tail cure. I've never heard that. Sleeping

15:45

with onions in your socks is supposed

15:47

to cure a cold. Also not confirmed.

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But I think that's true. I don't

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think it is. Yep. I think a

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producer Grace is like it's not. No

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it is and there is a reason

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and I can't remember what it is

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but it's like a Chinese medicine thing

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I think. Well maybe you believe this

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one as well Brit. Putting chicken manure

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on your head to treat boldness. I'm

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definitely not doing that. You could try.

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that you got that little patch of

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the bat for fertilizer like apparently people

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used to think it fertilized your head

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and stepping in warm cow dung to

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treat athletes for it terrible Who made

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that off? I don't know. It kills

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germs and bacteria and heals wounds. And

16:24

dry cow dung is a great scrub

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to get rid of dead skin and

16:28

improve blood circulation. Thanks for that extra

16:30

video information there, but she's great. The

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only one I'm sticking by for that,

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I think the onion, I think there's

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something in that. Do you want to

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know the explanation? Yeah. So the theory

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is that onions absorb bacteria and viruses,

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but there's no scientific... And a martyr,

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oh wow, that's cool. So you do

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learn stuff here at the pickup. Matt

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got stung by an emata, by a

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whole school of them. And a martyr,

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a martyr, a blue goddess. There is

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a news article that is going viral

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at the moment. Well, actually. it's a

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it's a surgeon who's created content put

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it out on Instagram it's currently had

17:03

four million views and it is accruing

17:05

more rapidly the reason for this is

17:07

because he has taken DIY or doing

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surgery on himself to all new hearts

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I don't think you can take doing

17:13

surgery on yourself to all new heights

17:15

I think that is the height people

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don't do surgery or you could I

17:19

mean for example you could do a

17:22

difference between stitching a cut rather than

17:24

giving yourself open heart surgery, right? Like

17:26

they're not all built the same. They

17:28

did stitch a cut of sorts, didn't

17:30

he? So this man, he is a

17:32

doctor, he's a surgeon, he's from Taiwan,

17:34

and he streamed this online. Basically he

17:36

had three children, and as a gift

17:38

to his wife, he decided it was

17:40

time for him to have a vasectomy.

17:42

But not only did he go and

17:44

get a vasectomy. He gave himself a

17:46

vasectomy. on camera. It's actually actually insane.

17:48

Normally of a sectomy takes like around

17:50

half an hour to 40 minutes. He

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came out and said it took him

17:54

twice as long because it was a

17:57

little bit more complicated having to do

17:59

it to himself. He said like there

18:01

was only one point in the operation

18:03

where it seemed as though he was

18:05

visibly in pain. He had to like

18:07

put the tools down, he laid back,

18:09

had a moment for like processing what

18:11

he was doing, and then he just

18:13

got straight back to work down there,

18:15

sniffing, cutting, tying up stuff. That is

18:17

next level, isn't it? He did say

18:19

he could feel it, even though he

18:21

had a local, he's like, it still

18:23

feels weird to be able to be

18:25

able to feel in your penis, what

18:27

you're sewing. What a doctor friend. Do

18:29

you know what he did say this

18:31

one thing, which I agree with, but

18:34

it was particularly funny. He said, I

18:36

am really brave. And yes you are.

18:38

Yes you are. But also if your

18:40

wife has to give birth to three

18:42

children, this should become the normal. Men

18:44

should be giving themselves the sectomies. We've

18:46

got to all have childbirth and kind

18:48

of go through that. I didn't do

18:50

this to myself. Don't try that. Don't

18:52

try that at home everyone with compliance

18:54

on radio or something. If somebody turns

18:56

around and says, Laura Burns said, and

18:58

then they do it, I'm going to

19:00

lose my job. Well, then we're going

19:02

to lose that job over a lot

19:04

of stuff. I remember, I didn't do

19:06

it to myself, but my boyfriend at

19:09

the time did. I just got him,

19:11

he was a doctor and I got

19:13

him to bring some equipment at home

19:15

and I sewed up my ear holes

19:17

on my bed, like we just laid

19:19

down at home and he sewed my

19:21

ears up, like a little operating table

19:23

in my room and he just sewed

19:25

them up. That's like as close as

19:27

a do-it-yourself operation at home that I've

19:29

ever done. I wonder like how much

19:31

these kind of like breaches... Heaps. Yeah,

19:33

like breaches like legislation stuff around like

19:35

codes of being a doctor. They did.

19:37

It was in another country, so no

19:39

one in Australia come for me. That

19:41

was a lie. I made the whole

19:43

story. Well, this did happen in Taiwan,

19:46

so maybe they have different rules than

19:48

what is in Australia, but apparently they

19:50

didn't investigation, but apparently they didn't investigation,

19:52

but apparently they didn't investigation, but apparently

19:54

they didn't investigation, mean himself. as well

19:56

recording that or something. I don't know

19:58

if there is. I think, like if

20:00

we have another kid, Matt will then

20:02

get a sectomy. I'm pretty... Like Matt

20:04

know that? Yeah, I'm going to give

20:06

him one. Yeah, does matter? We're going

20:08

to DIY now house as well. No,

20:10

I think he would. I think he

20:12

would be keen to. I actually don't.

20:14

I think that if we had a

20:16

third child, the fear of a fourth

20:18

child would probably propel him to want

20:21

to do so. His podcast partner, like

20:23

my husband does a podcast, he'd only

20:25

dad's with a guy named Ash Wicks.

20:27

He went and got a vesectomy, like

20:29

the day after he'd had his second

20:31

child, because he'd had his second child,

20:33

because he had his like, he'd had

20:35

his second child, he had his second

20:37

child, because he had his like, he

20:39

had his second child, he had his

20:41

second child, he had his second child,

20:43

Well, that's pretty excessive. Isn't it? Yeah,

20:45

because the day after, like, your feelings

20:47

aren't probably normal. No, if it was

20:49

the day after, but it's very shortly

20:51

after. These lawburns, spinny those lines again

20:53

on radio. Brit, last week. on our

20:55

podcast, Life on Carte, we answered a

20:58

really important question that we were very

21:00

aligned on. And that question was from

21:02

a listener who asked whether or not

21:04

she could tell her husband that he

21:06

was going bald. She wanted to ask

21:08

him whether he could go and get

21:10

like take balding medication because she was

21:12

not loving the fact that he was

21:14

thinning. Yeah, and we did say that

21:16

at the end of the day, no,

21:18

you can't go and point out your

21:20

partners in securities in securities and ask

21:22

them to change it. land it on.

21:24

But I have another question for you

21:26

and this one is a little bit

21:28

more close to home. Do you think

21:30

it is okay to tell your partner

21:33

how you want their facial hair to

21:35

be if they have decided to change

21:37

it dramatically? I need more context. Okay,

21:39

so imagine that you're used to your

21:41

partner having a relatively... Can we just

21:43

call the spade a spade? We're talking

21:45

about your husband Matt. Yeah, we're talking

21:47

about Matt. We're talking to... This is

21:49

very... When I say close to home,

21:51

I'm talking about inside my home. So

21:53

my husband Matt, he was recently on

21:55

I'm a celebrity, get me out of

21:57

here. On the show, he refused to

21:59

shave his face. It's gone beyond stubble.

22:01

It's a beard. It kind of still

22:03

smells like the jungle. And I have asked

22:06

him... a few ways nicely if he would

22:08

please shave it because it's just it goes

22:10

up my nose and I find it really

22:12

hard to kiss and I'm struggling with navigating

22:15

around the facial hair and I've come up

22:17

against a little bit of resistance but maybe

22:19

it's because I shouldn't be asking no okay

22:21

here we go you can suggest something you

22:23

can say hey I love you so much

22:26

better and it's more sexier when it's like

22:28

short or short or shaved or like not

22:30

on my nose but you can't hold the

22:32

man down with a razor and try and

22:34

try and shave shave his beard want to, he

22:37

can't. But I do think maybe if you

22:39

let him down the garden path and

22:41

said maybe it turns you one more

22:43

when he's cliched it. Or maybe you

22:45

like dengle that carot? I've done it

22:47

all. I was like I will feel

22:49

more excited about taking you down to

22:51

Pound Town if you shave your face

22:53

and he goes yeah yeah I'll do

22:55

it tomorrow. It's been weeks. He's been

22:57

home for weeks. It's getting longer by

22:59

the day and he will not shave

23:01

that and it. And it kind of

23:03

smells like jungle, jungle fire. All right,

23:05

let's give the man a second to

23:07

defend himself. I actually have mad on

23:09

the phone. I'm sorry, honey, I love

23:11

you and I find you so sexy, but

23:14

the beard's got to go. That's not

23:16

what you said a minute ago. This

23:18

is absolute defamation. I wash and condition

23:20

this beard every other night. Why? You

23:23

try and claim to your good listeners

23:25

that it smells, because they're absolutely doven.

23:27

Also, another thing, the one person who

23:30

is your hall pass is Jason. Mix

23:32

signals from you on the one

23:34

hand you want someone very hairy

23:36

all the sudden is a hairy

23:38

man in front of you. You don't

23:41

want him anymore Which one is it

23:43

Laura? It's I I? Jason Mimo is

23:45

my hall pass and he is a

23:47

particularly hairy man. I think I think

23:50

if I was to ever climb that

23:52

man I would discover that also his

23:54

facial hair goes up my nose and

23:57

I don't like it's a sensory thing

23:59

I actually but what I am going

24:01

to say is, a bit in Laura's

24:03

defense, when I came out of the

24:05

jungle last year, I showered, shaved, moisturized,

24:07

washed condition, I did everything, and I

24:09

thought that I was like, cool, the

24:11

jungles left behind. So many people told

24:13

me how much I still stunk. People

24:16

were like, the stench is still in

24:18

your hair, even though you've washed it,

24:20

but I couldn't smell it, because I

24:22

was accustomed to there, and you don't

24:24

know it. Don't drag me into your

24:26

condition, Brittany. I don't know how you

24:28

shall, but it's don't you dare compare

24:30

me to yourself. Also, Laura, is a

24:32

certain part of your body region that

24:34

you sometimes neglect in terms of shaving.

24:36

I won't go into too much detail,

24:38

but... All I'm saying, it's a little

24:40

bit rich. Once you start shaving, I

24:42

will as well. All right, let's take

24:45

a deal. If that's all it's going

24:47

to take, deal. I'll do it tonight.

24:49

Can you please shave your face as

24:51

well? I'll report it back on it

24:53

tomorrow, everyone. Can someone send us some

24:55

raises? We need a lot. We'll have

24:57

to get through. Oh, you guys going

24:59

to slide right on off each other.

25:01

Send a hacksaw, everybody. Now this one

25:03

is a bit of an odd one

25:05

for you guys, but it is something

25:07

that I have been following pretty closely

25:09

across social media You might be aware

25:11

that in the states they've brought out

25:13

some new legislation around family vlogging and

25:16

paying your children for appearing in content

25:18

So this is specifically for like influences

25:20

who make their money of having their

25:22

kids online. Yeah mummy influences Now the

25:24

thing with the US is that laws

25:26

are created state by state so laws

25:28

being passed in say California are very

25:30

very different to what might be passed

25:32

in say Tennessee. So recently there was

25:34

a law that was passed basically it

25:36

was a California bill which requires content

25:38

creators who feature minor children in at

25:40

least 30% of their content to set

25:42

aside 65% of their earnings into a

25:45

trust fund which then the child would

25:47

be able to access at 18 years

25:49

old. It's huge. It's a huge amount.

25:51

So basically if a child is appearing

25:53

in any more than 30% of the

25:55

content, they get 65% of the earnings.

25:57

The thing is though, is that there

25:59

seems to be some very famous Californian

26:01

families who have made millions upon millions

26:03

of dollars. off the back of their

26:05

families and their children who are now

26:07

leaving California and moving to other states.

26:09

Most of them are under the guise

26:11

of like wanting to have you know

26:14

a farm change or move somewhere with

26:16

a calmer and more relaxed lifestyle. Like

26:18

a sense of community space. But the

26:20

thing is is like a lot of

26:22

it has been very oddly timed and

26:24

there is one influencer who's come under

26:26

fire. Her name is Brittany Xavier. She's

26:28

got 5.1 million followers on Tik. She's

26:30

a really really like well love. sort

26:32

of family vlogger who she shares her

26:34

own stuff but she really does lean

26:36

into the fact that she's a mom

26:38

and her kids are often in her

26:40

content far more than 30% and she

26:43

moved just two weeks after these laws

26:45

came into place. So people are calling

26:47

around saying that the move has to

26:49

do with her not wanting to remunorate

26:51

her kids but she's saying well no

26:53

it was just bad timing and you

26:55

know we had mold in our place

26:57

in California so we had to get

26:59

out. I mean we spoke about this

27:01

so many times I definitely sure she

27:03

should be paid but 65% is a

27:05

lot like if they are just in

27:07

the content but the parents are still

27:09

the people that are like I guess

27:12

doing the work doing the work doing

27:14

the editing the editing. taking them where

27:16

they need to go, making brand deals.

27:18

65% is a lot. to be putting

27:20

into a trust fund for the child.

27:22

I don't know what I believe the

27:24

laws and regulations should be, but like

27:26

without doubt 100% of these influences, the

27:28

reason they are moving is not to

27:30

grow food. The reason that they are

27:32

moving is to avoid paying 65% of

27:34

their earnings. I don't know if we

27:36

can say a hundred, like you know,

27:38

a hundred percent of these influences, but

27:41

it is interesting because it's come off

27:43

the back, there's a really famous case

27:45

in the States, Ruby Frankie, changes have

27:47

come about because of families who have

27:49

exploited their children. So there had to

27:51

be some legislation that was brought in,

27:53

but I would say that the vast

27:55

majority of parents who do genuinely care

27:57

about their children are safeguarding their children's

27:59

future. I think about it from our

28:01

perspective because my husband and I, we've

28:03

got two kids, we often post them

28:05

online, not in terms of like we

28:07

are very mediated with how we do

28:10

it, but they have appeared in our

28:12

online content and they do sometimes appear

28:14

in brand partnerships that we do across

28:16

the network or the radio shows or

28:18

whatever, but we have separate bank accounts

28:20

for them. I'm careful about saying this

28:22

because I don't actually want the kids

28:24

to know this because I don't want

28:26

them to grow up thinking that they're

28:28

growing up. They don't listen to the

28:30

radio at preschool. No, Marley's in school,

28:32

she could know this now, but like

28:34

growing up in a silver spoon is

28:36

like a real worry I have for

28:39

them. But we put money away, growing

28:41

up in a silver spoon is like

28:43

a real worry I have for them.

28:45

But we put money away, I have

28:47

a real worry I have for them.

28:49

But we put money, but we put

28:51

them, like a real worry, like a

28:53

real worry, like a real worry, like

28:55

a real worry, like a really... great

28:57

compounding interest bank account so they're going

28:59

to have a lot more than what

29:01

they would have had had they were

29:03

accessing it every year. Yeah but then

29:05

we're banking on the fact that everybody

29:08

that is in this position is doing

29:10

what you're doing and as good a

29:12

person as you're doing and saying hey

29:14

I'm going to safeguard their future. Having

29:16

said that, there'd be a lot of

29:18

people that aren't doing that, but the

29:20

child is still benefiting. I think there's

29:22

a lot of people that would be

29:24

using that income so that they live

29:26

in a nice house and their families

29:28

go in nice holidays and their kids

29:30

go to nice schools. So it might

29:32

indirectly be going back into the children's

29:34

upbringing, but there's no way to regulate

29:37

that unless you literally put a law

29:39

down like they have. Yeah, and I

29:41

think it's a really hard thing to...

29:43

quantify what is the right amount like

29:45

you know sharing someone's childhood online exposing

29:47

them without them being able to have

29:49

consent to it and saying well I

29:51

sent you to a nice school well

29:53

you lived in a nice house yeah

29:55

it does that equate is that monetary

29:57

value a fair value you know I

29:59

guess like it is tricky when the

30:01

decisions is completely left up to the

30:03

parents and there aren't enough regulations around

30:06

it. I would have grown up and

30:08

been like, so I think that this

30:10

push in California that's happened is really

30:12

exceptional and I actually hope that within

30:14

Australia we have rules that come into

30:16

place that make family vlogging a more

30:18

responsible space so the kids aren't being

30:20

exploited online. We're going

30:22

to be talking a tattoo regret. So if

30:24

you are out there listening right now, and

30:26

you've got a tattoo that you wish you

30:28

didn't get, give us a call and let

30:30

us know, because Pete Davidson. Pete Davidson had

30:33

something like 200 tattoos on his body. So

30:35

many. His whole body was covered. It was

30:37

sort of like what he was known for.

30:39

But he, look at him now, Laura. He

30:41

has had every single tattoo laser removed. I

30:43

reckon he's really hot now. I don't mind

30:45

a tattoo. Like I'm quite, I quite like

30:47

a tattooed man. I don't want a tattoo

30:49

either, but like this is 200 tattoos is

30:51

a lot. It is, but also if you've,

30:54

the 200 tattoos is 200 tattoos, is 200

30:56

decisions to get tattoos. Like that's a lot

30:58

of time that you could have changed your

31:00

mind along the way. So in 2020 he

31:02

turned around and said, actually I'm going to

31:04

get them all laser it off. I know

31:06

you can laser tattoos off. I didn't think

31:08

you could laser off this many. My fiancé

31:10

Ben is laser in a tattoo up at

31:12

the moment. Which one? Not Gladiator, not Russell

31:15

Crow. He's got Russell Crow tattooed on his

31:17

thigh, which is cute. This needs so much,

31:19

like Brit's fiancé has a Gladiator scene tattooed

31:21

to his thigh. If the detail on Russell

31:23

Crow's face, quite close to his nether region,

31:25

is an interesting choice. When you first saw

31:27

it, what did you saw? Is that Russell

31:29

Crow? I was like, hey Ross. I didn't

31:31

see the detail of Russell Crow's face and

31:33

it wasn't until a couple weeks later. I

31:36

was like, hang on a minute. Is that

31:38

gladiator? Is that gladiator? Yeah. No, he's just

31:40

getting a little, he had a quote written

31:42

on his arm. What was it? I think

31:44

it was something like always believe or something

31:46

motivational, but he got it so young that

31:48

it all bled into one another and you

31:50

couldn't really... So he's like, I'll just remove

31:52

it. I have quite a big one down

31:55

my side that I got when I was

31:57

like 20. three and I'd be, most people

31:59

cut a fringe when they've gone through bad

32:01

breakup. I on this occasion decided I would

32:03

get a side tattoo and it is probably

32:05

like 25 centimetres long, like it's quite long

32:07

and it's a it's a humps their hand.

32:09

Show Grace. So I don't want to show

32:11

Grace, I don't want to show, she's looking

32:13

huge. It's exactly what she describes. Tell me,

32:16

you tell me how, is it, is it

32:18

as long as I think it is? And

32:20

it's really quite? it's well it wasn't when

32:22

I got it done it was really soft

32:24

and detailed but now from like sun exposure

32:26

and age and I've had two babies like

32:28

it's just stretched now I just have like

32:30

a weird hand melting down the side of

32:32

my body and you've also got like a

32:34

club stamp tag on your wrist I'm also

32:37

not Hindu so it's just not appropriate I

32:39

I you also just can't be bothered to

32:41

get it lays it's committed to it's not

32:43

that I can't be bothered it's because of

32:45

the pain it's so dark It's so old

32:47

and it's so big. You gave birth to

32:49

two kids. With an epidural, if you could

32:51

give me all the drugs in the world,

32:53

I'll go and get it laser off, but

32:55

maybe we can make content out of it.

32:58

But I just don't think I could. Hey,

33:00

we've got Phoenix on the line. Phoenix, if

33:02

you got a tattoo that you regret, what's

33:04

your situation? Hey, so I've got a tattoo

33:06

that my mom regrets me getting. A few

33:08

years ago I was traveling in Greece. And

33:10

I was like, oh my God, I really

33:12

want to get a tattoo, but I don't

33:14

know what to get. And I thought, oh,

33:16

what did I have for dinner? And I

33:19

went in and I got fed up, written

33:21

on my ass. Just the word fatter. So

33:23

not a block of it, just the word.

33:25

Yes, the word fatter, on your ass. That's

33:27

so stupid, I'm sorry. Do you, and you

33:29

don't regret that? There's two other people that

33:31

have it somewhere in the world, somewhere in

33:33

the world as well, so I'm not sure

33:35

how they're in the world, so I'm not

33:38

sure how they're feeling, but. Kind of quirky.

33:40

I do like that you just kind of

33:42

will like, you know, Yolo, I want to

33:44

get a tattoo today. I don't really care

33:46

what it's about. A tattoo in a club

33:48

in another country screams, doesn't scream like occupational

33:50

health safety. Sometimes it's not about what you

33:52

get tattooed on you. It's the story surrounding

33:54

it. Kay, let's not even best he's with

33:56

him. She doesn't know who they are. They

33:59

were just on a Kentucky trip. She's like,

34:01

they're like somewhere in the world. Did they

34:03

also eat better that night? That's the real

34:05

question. They did. They had Taziki, but I

34:07

was like, guys, it looks so much better

34:09

than Taziki. And no one can spill to

34:11

Taziki. No one can spill it can spill

34:13

it. Thank you. I regret that one for

34:15

you. I regret that one for you. I

34:17

regret that one for you. Hello. Hi, Angela.

34:20

What do you regret? My brother got our

34:22

mom's brownie recipe tattooed on his back. Is

34:24

it a particularly good brownie recipe? Yeah, I

34:26

mean, it's not bad. Like a whole, like

34:28

a brownie recipe. He got the whole, like

34:30

every ingredient in like the method. Every ingredient

34:32

and a method. So it's like, whatever it

34:34

is, it's like, you know, a cup of

34:36

sugar, a cup of milk, cup of flour.

34:38

Yeah. Mixa. Mixing together. Like the shoulder blade.

34:41

Like the shoulder blade, shoulder blade. I feel

34:43

like mom would either be really pierced or

34:45

also incredibly flattered. It's going to go one

34:47

or two ways. No, she loved it. He's

34:49

also like a bit of a golden boy

34:51

in the family, so that really helps him

34:53

out there with getting to the favourite list.

34:55

When he's cooking, how does he follow the

34:57

recipe? I don't think he would ever admit

34:59

it. I think it was just a way

35:02

to like approach girls when he was younger

35:04

to be like, hey, I got my mom's

35:06

brownie, tattooed, on my back, on my back,

35:08

on my back, and then they'd on my

35:10

back, and then they'd be like, and then

35:12

they'd be like, and then they'd be like,

35:14

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

35:16

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

35:18

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

35:21

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

35:23

like, like, like, Oh my God, I sort

35:25

of like he love it. I also think

35:27

he got it somewhere where he doesn't have

35:29

to see it and someone else can make

35:31

him brownies. That's what that is. Sounds like

35:33

a real technique. Exactly. He hates it now.

35:35

Like if you bring it up with him,

35:37

he'll be like, oh no, don't talk about

35:39

it. He tries to be a respectful lawyer

35:42

now. Respectful lawyer with a brownie recipe on

35:44

his back. Oh my God, it's so good.

35:46

Thank you for me. than vegan. He is

35:48

quite vocal around different traits that he sees

35:50

in his couples who come in for therapy

35:52

hallmarks that usually indicate that the relationship is

35:54

not going to work out. Now he created

35:56

a piece of content that was about the

35:58

seven phone traits that you should keep an

36:00

eye out for and if your partner starts

36:03

doing these things they could be indications that

36:05

maybe they're not being completely faithful and I

36:07

would love to get your opinion on these

36:09

Brit. This is what he thinks are all

36:11

red flags. Number one, their phone is on

36:13

do not disturb almost 24-7. Oh, yeah, okay,

36:15

I've got it. Mine's on silent 24-7. Do

36:17

not disturb. It's a different kettle, do not

36:19

disturb. It's a different kettle of fish, I

36:21

think. Yeah, but do not disturb. It's a

36:24

different kettle of fish, I think. Yeah, but

36:26

you can notify, in peace, in that break,

36:28

but yeah, I actually. All right, number two,

36:30

they flip their phone face down whenever you're

36:32

in the room. No, not at the end

36:34

of the world, because on its own... Could

36:36

be seen as respectful. You've got my attention.

36:38

I'm not going to look at my phone,

36:40

but it combined with do not disturb and

36:42

other things maybe So I think that this

36:45

one is a pretty telling sign to me

36:47

anyway And that was because when I was

36:49

in a long-term relationship with a guy who

36:51

was cheating on me He was cheating on

36:53

me. He was so secretive about his phone.

36:55

He would always in their hand like it's

36:57

an emotional support animal? I don't think that's

36:59

a red flag anymore because that's almost everyone.

37:01

But like they never leave it around the

37:04

house, it's always on their body. They never

37:06

leave it unattended. I think that's weird. Number

37:08

four, they forget to tell you that they've

37:10

changed their password. Sorry babe, I just I

37:12

just changed it. No, not weird. I don't

37:14

think you need to tell your partner that

37:16

you change password. I'm not sold on this

37:18

therapist yet. on the phone. Yeah, okay, that's

37:20

fair. You shouldn't be defensive. Here's a questionable

37:22

one. Their phones, wallpaper, includes the kids, but

37:25

you are nowhere in sight. May, this van

37:27

vegan is a bit of a stretch. Like

37:29

if you've got your kids, you're allowed to

37:31

have them on your phone. That's true, but

37:33

like you could also have your partner on

37:35

there from time to time. Maybe they're trying

37:37

to pretend like this single is what he's

37:39

saying. Yeah, but also maybe they're proud, a

37:41

proud, a proud parent. but not proud husband

37:43

or wife. Yeah, exactly. Okay, and number seven,

37:46

they text with their phone tilted away from

37:48

you like they're hiding a nuclear launch code.

37:50

So they never text that you can see

37:52

what's on screen. Or maybe they've got one

37:54

of those privacy screens so that you can't

37:56

see it anyway. Well, no, because then you

37:58

don't need to lean away. True. The privacy

38:00

screens are amazing actually. It's so easy to

38:02

cheat these days. I'm not saying that, but

38:04

like the cheating 10 years ago was hard

38:07

because you could get caught so easily, but

38:09

now there's so many like things that help

38:11

you cheat. I don't know about Van Vigan.

38:13

I reckon that these things individually, they're not

38:15

alarm bells. No, I agree. If your partner's

38:17

doing all of them, then yeah, I would

38:19

be like, okay, there is something. very secretive

38:21

on that phone. So he went on to

38:23

say that privacy in a relationship means respect,

38:25

however secrecy means that you're hiding something. I,

38:28

when I read through these... Wow, that's profiled.

38:30

This Van Beganis should be winning awards. Well,

38:32

no. Because he means hiding something. When I

38:34

read through this, I was like individually some

38:36

of these things could seem really petty and

38:38

you could seem really crazy to raise them

38:40

to your partner as issues that you have

38:42

around their like secrecy with their phone use.

38:44

But if you're in a relationship with their

38:47

phone use, but if you're in a relationship

38:49

where someone's doing lots of these things and

38:51

being super weird about you ever like touching

38:53

their phone or being near their phone, then

38:55

I think that sometimes it does pertain that

38:57

not necessarily that they're cheating. Maybe they've got

38:59

some stuff on your phone like that's what

39:01

happened to me. I know Laura and you

39:03

haven't learned from that. No, well to be

39:05

fair I've looked at Matt's

39:08

phone Matt's he was

39:10

cheating on me, so that

39:12

I have. on me. So I

39:14

think I Matt was planning

39:16

on proposing to me,

39:18

he had put photos

39:20

of diamonds that he

39:22

was looking at and

39:24

choosing between at and a

39:26

photo vault on his

39:29

phone. vault so this

39:31

one day he was

39:33

showing me something on

39:35

his phone and then

39:37

he on his past a

39:39

photo vault and I

39:41

was like, photo that's new,

39:43

why have you got

39:45

that on your phone?

39:47

why And I also

39:50

had come from a

39:52

relationship where, you know,

39:54

my ex had had

39:56

a photo vault on

39:58

his phone and it

40:00

was filled with photos

40:02

of girls he had

40:04

been with, you know,

40:06

while he he on me.

40:08

So on was like photo

40:11

a photo me bad me bad.

40:13

Matt was like, it's

40:15

nothing. I'm not showing

40:17

you. Anyway, we had

40:19

a bit of a

40:21

fight about it. It

40:23

didn't even spring to

40:25

mind that it might

40:27

be a proposal. Never.

40:30

might one positive thing

40:32

sprung to mind. I

40:34

only thought he was

40:36

doing the dirty. to mine.

40:38

his sister pulled me

40:40

aside and was like, dirty.

40:42

is trying to do

40:44

something nice for you

40:46

and you were ruining

40:48

it. like, Matt is your

40:51

head to do we're taking

40:53

from this for take my

40:55

advice or you and you were

40:57

ruining it. Oh, God.