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Merriman A one hand effect. Boom

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boom boom, out go the light. This

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is Lights Out with Sean

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Merriman. What's up?

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Guys? Were back again with another Lights Out

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podcast with me Seawan Merriman. Uh

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and this is special, this special one. I

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think we've we've all watched the Jake

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Paul and been asked,

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grin asked, grew as, uh,

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the best who's ever done in? Michael Buffer really

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watched that name last night? At least

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most of us was watching the fight right. A

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few takeaways from me. I

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got an opportunity to watch that Paul for some time

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now up closing personal So I've seen

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him work, So I'm gonna be a little bit biased, uh

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in how people are shocked about

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him beating Ben. Now,

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let me get this straight. I'm

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waking up in the morning, I'm seeing everyone saying on social

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media that the fight was fixed,

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that it was staged. I just want

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to remind people that this is in nineteen seventy

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five what they should throw fights back in the day,

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and none of that

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made sense. It's more of a I

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just think that people don't want to give Jake Paul to credit.

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Now. I'm not sitting up here and crowning him king of

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boxing and he's the best fighter ever. But this

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kid has been he's been fighting in boxing and training

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just for you know, a couple of years now, and

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I think we've all seen his progression. But

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give him credit. You know, it's

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time to give him some credit because even

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now still people will come in and say

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that Ben is in a boxer. Let

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me let me remind you been asking is a decorated

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fighter maybe m m A. But

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he's a decorated fighter. He's been in some real

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battles, some real wars

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with some top notch level,

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high class fighters, and

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it's beating him. So

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yeah, I'm not gonna give him the upper hand in boxing,

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which he shouldn't. Never came in his fight with the upper

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hand anyway, because Jake has been training

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and boxing and sparring pro boxes

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for the last almost two years. I'll

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take it back to say this, just

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as everybody else, when

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you see YouTuber or social media star,

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uh, internet star or whatever you wanna call

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it, come and do something

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else, you automatically have a red flag.

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You don't have the confidence, you don't have

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the uh, you

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don't have to trust that this guy is gonna go out

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and do things he's doing right now in the boxing

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ring. That changed for me when

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I got a chance to go and stay with Jake Paul

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and his team b J for

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his great coach and Shane

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Mosley's place up in Big Bear, why I trained

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with him for a few days. It totally

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changed my opinion of how I saw

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not only Jake Paul, but anybody is willing to put

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in a time and effort and transitioning

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from what they do to something else.

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One thing I would like to remind everybody is that you don't

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play fighting. And I see

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people all the time that there's calling certain

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people out and calling either even pro

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boxers or pro fighters out on

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social media, and to me, it's just a bunch of cloud

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chasing, which we have a lot of it nowadays, so

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that's understandable. But one thing I can tell you

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is you don't play fighting. Nate

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Robinson found that out, and some of these other

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guys are fighting out who's just kind of going to test

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the waters. I'm a big advocate and

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I've talked about it for years. I'm talking about

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it now. I've I've always think that Uh,

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the guys should go and transition and and pick

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up some form of or discipline of combat

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sports. I think it's good for you. I think it's

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uh to have that regiment. I think to have that

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motive to get up and go and learn something

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every day. It's it's it's great, great

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to do. But you can't play fighting. So

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let's just rewind this back a little bit and

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uh j Paul knocking

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out Nate Robinson, which we all seen that it became

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one of the biggest memes of of I

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can't get this pandemic, got me all messed up, um,

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but it became one of the biggest memes

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on the Internet and social media. Nave

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Robinson quickly found out that if

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you don't train, and you don't have the backing and

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and and and the proper technique

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and going back going into uh

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fighting boxing, especially that

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you're gonna get knocked out. You're gonna get embarrassed. So

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everyone said, hey, you know, Nate Robinson didn't

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train, he's a basketball player and

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all this other stuff, and if if

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Jake Paul fought a real fighter, then

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it's gonna be a different story. Well,

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been asking is a real fighter,

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He's retired, and he look

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just as out of shape as he's always been

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been. Asking has never been the uh

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he never passed the eye the eye the

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eye contest, right, he never

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passed that. But he's always

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been a damn good fighter. So

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what now? I think

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what now is? And you look on social media

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as I did after the fight, which is a

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long, long, long fight

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with way too many

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performances, I think that you're going to

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if you're trying to convert any kind of boxing

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fans, m m A fans, combat sports fans

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in general, you gotta take out some of the performances.

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They were great, just to people with great dog Cat,

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don't I mean? And too short ice

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Cube and Snoop Dogg obviously

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legends, you know, take two or three those

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acts, keep those and move on where it's entertaining

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still, but you gotta lose the extra

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you got to. You're

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just gonna turn too many fight fans away who are

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well, you're trying to convert some of those fight

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fans into what you're doing trailer. I think they're doing a

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great job, but get rid of some of those performances.

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That's just my opinion. The second part of it

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is is that going into this fight,

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there was a lot of people that gave Jake Paul no shot.

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Why because he's a YouTube fighter,

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he's in that star. Oh he only

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knocked out basketball players and other YouTube

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stars. Well, I

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thought for sure coming

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into this fight and if he won, it was going

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to change people the opinion of him

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and anybody else who puts in the time and effort

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to transition into combat sports.

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Well it didn't. In

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fact, when I looked on social media

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after the fight, I saw more hate. I

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saw that Ben Asking wasn't a fighter,

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that Jake Paul should fight a real fighter. I

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saw that it was staged. It was a fluke,

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it was set up, and

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quite frankly, I think that the rev did a great

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job in stopping a fight because it could have got ugly.

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Sometimes you don't need to see a one knockout

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a guy laying out cold before you call a

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fight. If a guy can't walk

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to you on a straight line and got on his

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drunk goggles, that's

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it's time to call the fight. I

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also seeing that, and I go back

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to the cloud, chasing the

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the trying to get notoriety,

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guys calling Jake Paul out all over some

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some who haven't done well

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in their own sport, which made

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you're you're calling guys out because you didn't do well

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in your sport and

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you've been beat up, you lost plenty of fights. But yet

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you want to cloud and fighting somebody who's only been

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fighting for two years? What good

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does that do? What good does that dude, Jake Paul?

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What good does that do anybody who

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is trying to make money in the sport. And

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let me remind you, guys, these guys are out

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fighting for money, and I'll tell guys, it's in lights

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out extreme fighting my fighters.

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You're fighting to make money and take

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care of your family. So

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if you're a fighter, they don't have a

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big following. You've already been beat

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up and had many losses in your own sport.

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Stop calling now, Jake Paul or anybody

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who you see can be an easy come up

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in or easy cloud chase into

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another field. All right, you

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didn't you want successful successful in

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what you did? Stop trying to

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get cloud and fight someone who you know

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you can possibly be, And

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what good is it to Jake Paul? Did mind you? I

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don't I believe Jake Paul made five plus

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million if I'm not, if I'm not mistaken last

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night. I don't know what the pay per view is gonna come back in, but

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I'm assumed that they are at least a million

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pay per views and up. Why

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would Jake Paul or anybody fight you

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to go backwards? The object in this

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fight game is to make as much money

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as you can. Why you can because it don't last

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forever. And I'll be the first one to tell you that coming

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from the NFL, I don't last

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forever. You make your money, you provide for your

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family, and you move on. So

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what's next? I

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you know, whether it's another m M A fighter, whether

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it's another boxer, which I don't see is gonna happen,

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because I don't unless you're a Floyd

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Mayweather or uh

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you know, a bigger now Manny pac

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Our or or just you know someone

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with a bigger name Danny

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Garcia. I mean, it's just just someone with

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a bigger name in boxing, which is

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not gonna be much of a match because

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you're more skilled than Jake Paul or another

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guy who is starting out starting to fight. So

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what's next? Look,

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and I saw that Jake Paul wants

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Nadias. I

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think that would be a great fight. I

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think that obviously,

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you know, Nadias is a much better

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boxer, a much better athlete

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than that been asking. I

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think that's the next fight to go. But

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what if let's let's say this, and and

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and Nadiaz is one of the one of the

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badasses of of of of our

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time, right, even though I'm

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just talking by the combat sports in general,

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just just a just a badass across

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the board. What

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if? What's what? What is it gonna take for Jake Paul

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or any one of these guys to go and try who transitioning

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over before they get some credit and not

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to be staged or not to be set

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up. What's it gonna take? My

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guess is this, you

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know, Jake Paul and and a lot of

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these guys who are transitioned over in a Frank

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Mull who also afforded that car to afford the professional

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boxer didn't look as bad as I thought he would. But anybody

10:32

who knows the fight game and understand how things go.

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Um Frank Mull could have been knocked

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out at any given time. It looked like he was being uh,

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they were being it was letting up on him. This guy was

10:41

a world champion boxer and couldn't

10:43

knocked him out any any given time in

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my opinion. But

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I can tell you this. I can tell you who started all of it.

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And whether you want to hate, love or do whatever you want

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to do, I can tell you who started. It's Floyd Mayweather

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and Conor McGregor. They

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set the tone, They opened the floodgates for

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these things to happen. And

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this is why combat sports, boxing,

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m m A, whatever it is, will continue

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continue to get bigger. The

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sports are going to continue to grow.

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You're gonna have a lot of retired athletes, a

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lot of uh, you know, celebrities,

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entertainers who are will now

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uh look to start fighting

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other entertainers, other

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athletes. And this is something I've

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been talking about for the last few years. This

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is this is where combat sports is going.

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And I and I say this and

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anybody who have a problem with this not And I come

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across a lot of fighters that initially I don't know so

11:43

much now that initially had a

11:45

problem with these

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things taking place. You

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know, you have a Jake Paul or Someone's coming into

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the industry and they're making five hundred thousand

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I think been asking last night took home between eight

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hundred thousand and a million bucks. Ben

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Ashkin didn't make a million bucks and

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three fights fighting.

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M m m A right. So what you're gonna

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have here is a different landscape

12:08

of combat sports. It's gonna start happening here

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soon. And any

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any fighter, or any fan or anybody that

12:15

has a problem with this, don't understand

12:17

what you have a problem with. This is going to grow the

12:20

sport. More doors

12:22

are gonna be open, more things is gonna happen,

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More opportunities gonna happen for the fighters. And

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if I'm a fighter, I want

12:28

these things to happen. I want to have an opportunity to

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fight and knock out a social media star, a

12:33

YouTuber, a basketball

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player, football player, rugby star, track

12:38

star, whatever it is, I want to I want

12:40

that opportunity because that opportunity

12:42

means more money for me. So when you fight,

12:44

or anybody is coming into the fight game or in the fight game

12:47

that has a problem with this or or

12:49

think it's a freak show. Maybe it is, maybe

12:52

it's a fat Maybe it's a freak show. But people are

12:54

buying it to pay for you show. It is

12:56

a real thing, and people are tuned

12:59

in and you and tell by things trending on

13:01

social media last night and now major

13:03

outlets, major TV, major streaming

13:06

are all covering it because

13:08

it is a thing. So

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what is it gonna take for Jake Paul to get some respect?

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Does he does he have to fight a guy like Nadias?

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Does he have to fight another boxer? In

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my opinion, if I'm Jake Paul,

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I keep picking my opponents the

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way I want to pick them, and I'll

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keep calling out everybody who I want to call out.

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And if if I'm a fighter on

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m M, a side boxer, whoever it may be, and have

13:36

an opportunity to take a fight like this and make make

13:39

that this type of money, you take it. So

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those are my thoughts. Man, I would I was sitting back and

13:45

and watching the fight just everybody, like everyone

13:48

else, made a little money. Myself, well

13:50

not a little money, a lot of a lot of money. Last

13:53

night. The bett the Bett Knowedge

13:56

were nice for me. But

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this is the thing, and this is the thing that's gonna be around

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for a long time. I myself have been

14:03

working on transitioning athletes from other sports

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into M and man combat sports. I

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think it's a beautiful thing and I think it's gonna be

14:09

a thing of the future and it's gonna be around

14:12

for a very long time. So

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who who's next? Who do you guys want to see? Fight?

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Thank you guys for listening in to another lights

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our podcast or me Shawn Merriman,

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And that was it was cool for me

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because look, this is this

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is big. It's gonna be a big

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thing with athletes, with

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celebrities, YouTubers, internet stars,

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you name it. It's gonna be around for a

14:37

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