0:00

Obviously looking forward to talking about

0:02

the about the -1. I'm holding it right here

0:04

in my here hands. little hands. But I will

0:06

say I will say after going through all of know,

0:08

and know, and dealing with the mobile phone company to

0:10

get data, which I'll talk more about in the

0:12

show. in the show, you know, and you know, and their prices

0:14

of all of that. think Starlink looks like

0:16

do think good value looks like a pretty good value

0:18

proposition if you can make it work. as like a

0:21

backup or as a do you mean Well, I'll get more

0:23

a primary? into it in the get I'll get more

0:25

into it in the show, but this is using

0:27

cellular. and, you look know, when you look at your

0:29

options, of the cost of this, the cost of the

0:31

cellular program. you pay a bit more a

0:33

bit more upfront for the Starlink hardware, but you

0:35

get a you get a dish and a

0:37

router of is running of is running a fork of

0:39

open anyways? I believe, And then, and then, like, then have the

0:41

also have the internet service and it all

0:43

just kind of gets connected out of the

0:46

box and works and it's a nice little and

0:48

it's a nice router with decent Wi -Fi, so. router Wi-Fi,

0:50

so... I I couldn't go that route, I but

0:52

I want to acknowledge I I get into this you you

0:54

know, depending on your situation, that may just be a

0:56

better way to go. be a better way to go. But,

0:58

of course, if you're looking for something that

1:00

runs that natively like a champ. like

1:02

a champ, is the box. It's something I've been looking

1:04

forward to having. looking forward to having, just

1:07

for a long time and it's finally finally a real

1:09

product. a real product. Hello

1:21

So friends welcome back to your

1:23

weekly weekly Linux My name is My name

1:25

name is Wes, my my name

1:27

is Brent. and my Well, hello Well,

1:29

up on the show today. the

1:31

Yes, we will be taking

1:33

a look at the at the open WRT1,

1:35

a device a device born to and

1:37

born to run. Then we'll also

1:39

natively. who we'll also hear from to who

1:41

traveled back to the 1990s to solve

1:43

a problem that none of us have

1:45

really had to think about for a

1:47

long time. long time, turns out. out

1:49

Linux still still lick. And course

1:51

we'll round it out with some out

1:54

with a booze, a great a lot more. So before

1:56

I go lot more. let's say go

1:58

any further, let's say greetings to our... virtual

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but this week it's our

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Last year is a little

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3:38

course, Linux Fest is one

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and It is a great

3:49

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3:51

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3:55

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And if you've been looking to do a talk

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just, you know, you're course you get to hang

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out with your buddies because you know we're gonna be

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there making a big stink out of it. you always a

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good time. be I'm sure live a big it out all of

4:20

that. So we're gonna be getting our plans together as

4:22

we're New Year to be getting our plans speaking of

4:24

the year. new year. We We would

4:26

love to hear your boost predictions for

4:28

2025. What do you think is do you to

4:31

happen in the world of Linux and Send

4:33

us your predictions, you can also

4:35

email them in. you can we'll be

4:37

collating them for our future episode.

4:39

And then one other thing we're looking

4:41

for feedback is other thing we're I'd

4:43

love to sort of say

4:45

to the of Pi 4 with

4:47

a 4 with a classic pie project. got

4:49

a couple of couple around. 4s around. I I don't

4:51

use them as much much anymore. And I'd love

4:54

some project ideas so you could boost those in as well. boost

4:56

may also wanna mention may we're doing a

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double record on the we're doing a wanna

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join us live? on the fifth. Oh, yeah. You want

5:03

the join us And I think that's

5:05

when we'll be doing our predictions

5:07

for I think join we'll see how we

5:09

predictions Make some 2025. Yeah, so maybe join live

5:11

and see how we did and make some

5:13

yourself. Okay. Okay, Wes. Wesse. So need to

5:15

burn a burn a some reason? do,

5:17

yeah. do. I do. Yeah. Like an audio CD

5:19

a a data CD. me the score. I

5:21

me me know in know, in one version,

5:23

maybe a MP3 CD would do, but

5:25

no, I'm going for like like classic

5:27

red CD. CD. Yeah, okay. Nice. I see you

5:29

see you prepared some history. I I

5:31

Which don't know if you, if you uh...

5:33

I did, I I thought this

5:35

was just funny. I did. I did.

5:37

So the that you know you know, we

5:40

could burn to the disc that you

5:42

could record you developed in 1988. in

5:44

1988. Did you know that? Wow! That is

5:46

crazy. generally are are surprisingly old. they

5:48

but they didn't get real. traction until the

5:50

90s. the in the late 90s, And

5:52

then in the late became writing software became

5:54

available and often like the early ones, the

5:56

very first ones that I ever saw ever saw

5:58

were Oh Oh yeah. I don't know

6:00

if you remember, but there was a

6:02

bunch of CDR standards, CDR RAM or

6:04

whatever it was, yeah, RW and R

6:06

that was only... Plus and minus. Yes.

6:08

And they were scuzzy and they were

6:10

2X and they were so, so slow.

6:12

But of course, into the early odds,

6:15

it became kind of a cultural phenomenon.

6:17

Laptop started coming with CED burners built

6:19

to them and there was lots of

6:21

different software to mix your own music

6:23

CDs and data CEDs. And Linux kind

6:25

of early on was a little bit

6:27

left out in this party. Right, of

6:29

course all the fancy best, you know,

6:31

because like the drive could do it,

6:33

but there was always, you know, if

6:35

you wanted really nice results, it was

6:37

kind of like you needed fancy software

6:39

that knew how to like do it

6:41

safely and, you know, simulate things first

6:43

and enable all the right advanced features

6:45

to get the best burn. And we

6:47

were still ATA back then. So that's

6:49

why the scuzzy ones were a little

6:51

bit. Like just compatibility and drivers and

6:54

the variations and implementations it took Linux

6:56

a while to wrap its head around

6:58

that But then we started getting pretty

7:00

good apps like Brent did you ever

7:02

use K3B? I did It was not

7:04

my preferred burning method though. I got

7:06

to say. What did you use? What

7:08

was your preferred? Um geez, they're starting

7:10

to fade in memory here, but I

7:12

know right? It's a real phenomenon. Hmm.

7:14

Hmm. Hmm. I can't believe it's not

7:16

there I remember exactly what I used

7:18

to Rip with because I did a

7:20

lot of that. Oh yeah, what was

7:22

that? Well, there was this little application

7:24

I was always looking for, you know,

7:26

given my nature, always looking for the

7:28

most precise rip. I didn't care about

7:30

speed. I wanted precision and to make

7:32

sure that like any errors or anything

7:35

were caught. And so I ended up

7:37

using something called Ruby Ripper, which did

7:39

a bunch of stuff like comparing your

7:41

rip to a big catalog of ripps,

7:43

similar to some of the, I'm sure.

7:45

producer Jeff has a lot to say

7:47

on this topic, but very similar to

7:49

what some of the

7:51

more, let's say, software

7:53

of software we're

7:55

doing. Nero, like Nero on Windows

7:57

of the of course. yeah,

7:59

and so I found Ruby Ripper

8:01

I found Ruby Ripper

8:03

to be pretty

8:05

excellent, although it is

8:07

now, of course,

8:09

not maintained or anything,

8:11

so you can

8:13

still use it quite

8:16

successfully, but to to

8:18

get old. yeah, but

8:20

that's but that's another one I I

8:22

use, out there. out there. Yep, still going. But

8:24

But I get the sense that

8:26

these are not tools you used, so

8:28

so. Well, get some of Okay, okay. So

8:30

we have an so we have an burn

8:32

audio CD CD. is like this a holiday is

8:34

this a holiday gift? While sharing so

8:37

stuff over the sharing songs and stuff

8:39

over the holidays we my on doing an

8:41

Thanksgiving, that we stumbled onto an album

8:43

that he hadn't heard for years.

8:45

able I was able to find

8:47

it on the streaming service and

8:49

like, and and stuff. form and stuff and throw

8:51

to when he was a kid.

8:53

This is like the like the real vinyl

8:56

era, right? era, you couldn't just

8:58

stream any old song, any time, right?

9:00

You had to know someone who

9:02

had had to know someone who had the maybe

9:04

you could find it at a

9:06

local store, maybe you couldn't. local store, maybe

9:08

you of imagine So, friend brings over

9:10

this album a friend brings over it's recorded

9:12

in fancy in fancy phase stereo. So my dad

9:14

and his my dad and his siblings

9:17

were kind of mesmerized and we

9:19

actually got a little sample. ?

9:24

? ?

9:30

? ? ?

9:32

? ?

9:39

? Now

10:08

if Now if you're producer Jeff and you're only you're

10:10

only listening with one This track plays with track in

10:12

a with stereo in a really fun

10:14

way in see why this would stick out

10:16

in their then back then when stereo

10:18

was so big and they had quadrophonic

10:20

stereo Yes, this was a recording phase guess I a recording

10:22

technique developed by Deco Records in the

10:24

records in 1961 Which is when this album

10:26

came out came have been one of

10:28

the first albums to like come from

10:30

this new technique come from this new technique which I

10:33

I guess it was primarily designed to get

10:35

very wide and dramatic wide and Yeah, you can, you

10:37

can hear it in there. You great. it in there.

10:39

and you ripped that. And you rip that. No, so

10:41

tell you about the story, how

10:43

I got it. All right, of how I

10:45

story, All right, let's hear the it was, this

10:47

is And what it was, this is a Los Macho Combos, in phase

10:49

record from 1961, 1961 DECA. They're a

10:52

music band formed in Paris in 1959 with

10:54

two guitar players, so they have influences from

10:56

Spain and Italy as well as Costa Rica

10:58

and Peru. as So you get a lot of,

11:00

Peru. So you was lot of, but there's a lot

11:02

of like traditional folk music and more popular

11:04

songs going. and I love it. songs going.

11:06

the years, it. So know, the siblings got got, the

11:08

album, they bought it. They all, they all, I mean, but

11:10

several of them had it, but of them had

11:12

it, often happens, lost, lost, sold, damaged. no one

11:14

So no one has it anymore.

11:17

My dad doesn't have it it anymore. and

11:19

then add on top of this, one

11:21

of his siblings is dealing with health is

11:23

dealing with health dad just thought it'd be

11:25

fun to sort of thought this album. to sort

11:27

of reshare this their age, and are their age technology

11:29

they're all familiar with. all familiar goal was

11:32

to try to get this music and

11:34

put it on CD so he he could

11:36

give it to his sibs I can appreciate that.

11:38

that So my wife has a a Ford and

11:40

it has the Microsoft sync system in it.

11:42

And it's one of the earlier versions,

11:44

like the second version. second version And it it

11:47

just completely stopped talking to her phone over

11:49

Bluetooth one day. day. And I had to and

11:51

I had to like pull the fuse and fully reset

11:53

the system before reset the system before

11:55

it could talk to it. meantime, phone again. But

11:57

in the a couple like, you know, for a couple of weeks

11:59

where it wasn't work. She just grabbed a CD collection

12:01

that she had like in storage and it

12:03

was kind of delightful as we were going

12:05

down the road. You'd do all of the

12:07

thinking ahead of time in a way. You'd

12:09

look at the CD and you're like, okay,

12:11

this is my choice and then you put

12:13

it in and you just listen to it.

12:15

There's no Futsin with connecting low phone, no

12:17

screen. Worry about LT. Yeah. And it shows

12:19

a little track date and stuff. So there's

12:21

actually something still I think very attractive to

12:23

I think very attractive to CDs. Or for

12:26

maybe folks that are in a hospital or

12:28

something like that, a CD can be sort

12:30

of like this universal thing that almost anybody

12:32

can still play for at least a little

12:34

while longer. Exactly. But is the tooling up

12:36

to snuff? Yeah, right. Okay, so I kind

12:38

of needed a lot of things. I haven't

12:40

burnt a CD. I used to be, you

12:42

know, I used to do it back in

12:44

the day, even made some of those video

12:46

CDs before I got into DVD burning. I

12:48

had those spindles with just stacks of like

12:50

distrosos I burned. Yes. Yes. Yeah, you just

12:52

buy them at like Costco or something. You'd

12:54

get a whole pack. But I don't know

12:56

exactly the last time, but it must be

12:58

a decade plus since I've had to do

13:00

this, right? So first thing I needed to

13:02

get some new CDRs, because I didn't actually

13:04

have any anymore. Thankfully, I threw them away.

13:06

They've got some fancy ones now with like

13:08

vinyl look-alike on the top surface. So yeah,

13:10

you sent us a picture and I thought

13:13

they were a little eight. like the eight

13:15

millimeter vinyls or something. That's what they look

13:17

like. They look like these old small vinyls,

13:19

but of course they're CD, it's a lot

13:21

of fun. I love how you're mashing two

13:23

ancient technologies together. And then I got some

13:25

cheaper ones just because I knew I was

13:27

gonna mess some things up. Okay, so that

13:29

arrived pretty quick from Amazon and you know

13:31

I think my dad was worried about

13:33

that just because he still buys a

13:35

lot of stuff in stores and you

13:37

know like best buys and stuff have

13:39

kind of stopped stocking stop stocking them

13:41

because no one really needs them. But

13:43

there's still very, you know, I don't

13:45

know, you could buy them in bulk

13:47

or as I was doing, I just

13:49

bought, they're more expensive, but ones that

13:51

just came with jewel cases because we

13:53

weren't making that many of them. So

13:55

those are all still plenty available, which

13:57

is great. I also needed a working

14:00

drive. I was wondering about that. Yeah,

14:02

so there were several candidates in my,

14:04

you know, slow. decaying hardware collection and

14:06

actually my mom and I think my

14:08

brother still have laptops floating around while

14:10

we've replaced my mom's with the framework

14:12

but her older one which is still

14:14

working an older Dell that has a

14:16

drive and my brother's got an HP

14:18

laptop that I was a drive so

14:20

that's gonna be an option but I

14:22

kind of wanted to make sure I

14:24

had this solved on my own and

14:26

then I had a realization you know

14:28

what we did in 2024 the 32-bit

14:30

challenge right and you know what definitely

14:32

has a CD CD CD CD. So

14:34

I got out the old 32-bit rig,

14:36

Adele Insprong, 6400, I think. So I

14:38

figured, great, right, I left this in

14:40

a working state, we got it going

14:42

for the show, so like, oh, okay,

14:44

this should be easy, I'll just get

14:46

up, maybe do some updates, install a

14:48

couple tools, there's probably in the repos,

14:50

right? These are all old software. I

14:52

had forgotten that later on in the

14:54

year, we reviewed Hiku. But

14:56

it right up though, Coo is running great. You find

14:58

out right away. Sadly, it did not have CD burning

15:01

software? Actually, I'm kind of surprised. I thought it might,

15:03

yeah. Would you have just gone for it if you

15:05

did? Yeah, yeah. So, okay, I had to white pie

15:07

coo. I ended up going with MX Linux. Oh yeah,

15:09

okay. YMX. Well, I actually decided to ask Chatjipity, and

15:11

I was like, hey, I've got this third tube of

15:13

machine. I'm trying to burn CDs. What's a good distro

15:15

that's going to make this super simple and easy with

15:17

good availability for old software? Amex is good. Amex? And

15:19

I was like, oh, you haven't done that for a

15:21

while. So that was nice. You know, Debbie and based

15:23

and Debbie and Archives are huge. Got an install base

15:25

going to text the drive. It's an NEC drive. It's

15:27

an NEC drive. It's an NEC drive. Totally fine drive.

15:29

Totally fine. Totally fine. I've totally fine. I've totally fine.

15:31

I've totally fine. I've totally fine. I've. I've. I've. I've.

15:33

I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've.

15:35

I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. I've. a bunch

15:37

of old forums from like 2006 and 2011 which are

15:39

like a goldmine for this kind of thing. I'm still

15:41

up. That's amazing. For now, right? Like for how much

15:43

longer, who knows? I ended up because I was able

15:45

to go... So, all right, we'll talk more about tools

15:47

in a second, because first we should talk about getting

15:49

the audio, because... It was never released

15:51

on CD as as far as

15:53

I can tell. Okay. There were

15:56

There were of it of it, could

15:58

and of buy buy them, but

16:00

it was a wide range

16:02

of prices on and and

16:04

something tells me that that the

16:06

more expensive ones were the

16:08

ones without a bunch of

16:10

scratches on them. a bunch of

16:12

you've got to come up with a decent way to

16:14

capture vinyl. up which I don't have. way to So I

16:16

was searching around I don't have. Yeah. does have it. That's

16:18

not great. I think and were looking at one point

16:20

and Tidal does have it. But I also I think we were

16:22

looking at one point title does have it, but

16:24

I -B -U -Z. I found. which is advertised itself

16:27

has more more than 100 million tracks

16:29

best sound quality available for streaming so

16:31

it's kind of like title So it's kind

16:33

of like title where it like audio files and

16:35

people who really want high quality

16:37

stuff. want high also say, also say, your favorite

16:39

albums in CD or or -res quality

16:41

and enjoy them forever. them forever. And while

16:43

I was searching for this album, which is older

16:45

a little harder to find. to find, it popped

16:47

up in their store for just downloading

16:49

as a a one-off. Oh, that's nice. So

16:52

I was able to just pay

16:54

$4 .95 pay something and get CD CD quality

16:56

flax them, which had metadata and even

16:58

had a little JPEG for the

17:00

CD even had a Okay, we'll put a link to

17:02

that because it's kind of a weird one. cover. -B -U

17:04

-Z. a don't have to have the membership to just

17:06

buy the one kind of a weird one. so you can

17:08

pay for their streaming plan, but I just made a

17:10

quick account which was really easy and I was able to

17:12

just use my credit card or PayPal to No. So you to

17:14

That's so handy. They even warn you like, you know, hey,

17:16

we can't control the licensing. So like. No. download

17:18

it now to make sure you get it get it because

17:20

if licensing goes away later, you might not be able to

17:22

download it again. not be which I appreciated that being

17:24

up front anyway. Which I That's the nature of the

17:26

biz right now. front. Yeah, I was kind of

17:28

interested because I was going above Biz could have

17:30

just done kind which I got installed right away

17:32

because I also had used it back in the

17:34

day. could have I could have just dragged which I

17:36

in there. would have handled everything, but I kind

17:38

of wanted to get the Which I back if

17:40

I could. right away because I nice experience. right away? Yeah, I was

17:42

like, I wanna make sure all done K3B and

17:44

stuff were gonna show up without me having to

17:46

put them all in. in So I I remembered and

17:49

seen some advice for a for a freak or free AC, which I

17:51

guess guess maybe is also an audio ripper,

17:53

but it can do processing. And it's

17:55

really and it's really good with

17:57

metadata So I was was able to all the

17:59

all the in which have... metadata and then it

18:01

was able to output a single wave file

18:03

or multiple tracks which kind of confused me

18:05

at first and sent me down a few

18:07

bad paths but a single wave file ultimately

18:09

and a Q sheet for it. So and

18:11

that I knew like it had got all

18:13

the wave stuff right and in gapless order

18:16

and then the Q sheet had everything sort

18:18

of like figured out with the metadata it

18:20

knew it could put in there. I was

18:22

like okay this seems like the the easiest

18:24

bet to get the highest quality experience I

18:26

can. And I think this is somewhat more

18:28

common on Windows, but on Linux it turned

18:30

out to be weirdly hard, and also because

18:32

I haven't done this in a thousand years,

18:34

to like just get that Q and Way

18:37

file, or Q and Bin is common too,

18:39

to actually get onto the desk. Oh, really?

18:41

Yeah, like, so one of the tools that's

18:43

available is CDRDAO, which is CDR disk at

18:45

once, which is a mode of writing, and

18:47

that's popular. It's also able to like burn.

18:49

pirated PSX disks and stuff. So it's a

18:51

fancy tool that works well. And in theory,

18:53

it's supposed to have support for Q files

18:55

and it like automatically converts them to the

18:58

TOC, the table contents files that it actually

19:00

uses. The head units are reading? Yeah. So

19:02

I don't know if it was, mine was

19:04

like one point release out of date in

19:06

the Devian archive based on like what Nick's

19:08

has or on the get hub. So I

19:10

don't know if it was that, but it

19:12

just wouldn't read the Q. And then I

19:14

tried reading, and I tried with like Brazero

19:16

for a bit, and I tried XF Burn,

19:19

which actually came with MX Linux because it

19:21

was an XFCE Desktop, and they kind of

19:23

got close, but they, XF Burn, would look

19:25

like it was going to do it, and

19:27

it would look like it was going to

19:29

do it, and then it would eject the

19:31

drive first thing, and not seem to spend

19:33

a while tinkering. and I didn't quite quality

19:35

control magipity output well enough so I missed

19:37

that I needed a flag to specify that

19:40

it was a Q sheet and not just

19:42

a file. So I ended up burning two

19:44

disks with a single Q sheet file on

19:46

them. This is why I got a few

19:48

extras, right? Yes, that is exactly right. I've

19:50

done that before. And I'd seen people online

19:52

saying that K3B could understand the Q sheets,

19:54

but I couldn't get it to work, but

19:56

what actually ended up needed to have... was

19:59

I was still having it in audio disk

20:01

mode because ultimately that's what I was burning

20:03

but I had to put it into it

20:05

its image mode which isn't in the default

20:07

like project thing you have to go to

20:09

like a separate menu and like burn image

20:11

and then when I fed the Q sheet

20:13

in when it had a single wave and

20:15

not multiple track waves it was able to

20:17

recognize it. So you produced one continuous wave

20:20

file? Yeah so freak. put out the key

20:22

took all the slack with its metadata run

20:24

out the Q sheet and a single wave

20:26

and then you could do the image mode

20:28

and then I was able to use image

20:30

mode in K3B to burn it to the

20:32

desk okay and then does the head unit

20:34

see the table of contents it sure does

20:36

yeah it played the titles yeah I tried

20:38

it on the car on the drive up

20:41

and it was great wow I mean that

20:43

totally totally just brings back so many memories

20:45

of exactly what the burning CD experience was

20:47

like for so many things as this trial

20:49

and air process. It's always been like that

20:51

even back in the day. This is how

20:53

it was. And I feel like we are

20:55

in this sort of window of time where

20:57

these devices and these tools are still available.

20:59

And I would also say on the other

21:02

side, if you think about it, how much

21:04

longer are Blu-ray players going to be available?

21:06

And Bluray players can play Blu-ray. They can

21:08

play DVDs. They can play CDs. That's a

21:10

pretty wide range of compatibility and a bunch

21:12

of other stuff that these things can play.

21:14

And they're not going to be available for

21:16

much longer. Archive your stuff now if you

21:18

need to, and that's also worth mentioning. Yeah,

21:20

we're kind of coming to the end of

21:23

this technology where you can, apparently it still

21:25

works. That kept surprising me. There's partially two,

21:27

because like these days, so much of our

21:29

stuff is solid state, you know? So like,

21:31

seeing something like, oh, oh, it has to

21:33

use a complicated, like a complicated, like a

21:35

complicated, a complicated, precise, like a complicated, precise,

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like a, like a, like a, like a,

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I probably would have just tried to get

21:41

them to all use a thumb drive or

21:44

something. Or probably if I thought about it,

21:46

I probably could have just found a service

21:48

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21:50

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23:26

Well Chris, it's always an

23:28

exciting time when you it's always

23:30

an exciting time when you get a new

23:33

piece of hardware and you recently got

23:35

the open WRT1, which I was which I was super

23:37

tempted to also get, but didn't pull

23:39

the trigger. trigger. you did. did. Coming in

23:41

just before the end of

23:43

the year, it's based on

23:45

a on a 802 802 SOC. It's

23:47

got got dual dual band. It has one

23:49

2 .5 gigabit LAN port

23:51

and a gigabit LAN

23:54

port. land Gigabyte of gigabyte

23:56

of DDR for a

23:58

256 megabyte Nanflat. and a

24:00

16 megabyte nor which is the

24:02

recovery disk. It also has an

24:05

M.2 SSD slot and a USBC

24:07

serial console and it gets powered

24:09

over USBC and it also has

24:11

a USB 2.0 port on the

24:14

front which I'll be discussing in

24:16

a little bit. It's $89 to

24:18

get the completely assembled aluminum enclosure

24:20

version that's what you're hearing here

24:23

which is a nice blue machined

24:25

aluminum. That's it's $89 dollars on.

24:27

Ali Express and you can get

24:29

just the board if you don't

24:32

need the casing for 68 dollars.

24:34

That's pretty reasonable. With open WRT

24:36

installed by default completely 100% supported.

24:38

No worries about yeah weird hardware

24:40

glitches or oh we can't quite

24:43

use those radios properly. Right. So

24:45

I would compare this for my

24:47

use case which I'm going to

24:49

get into to about like a

24:52

hundred and ten dollar GLI net

24:54

which I like the GLI nets.

24:56

But this is, you know, 90

24:58

bucks. Wes, what's your, before I

25:01

get into the machine, like, what

25:03

are your, what's your impression just

25:05

holding it here in studio? It

25:07

feels high quality. Two, to the

25:10

two internet ports are on the

25:12

back, you know, easy to see.

25:14

U.S.B.C., both for power and, I

25:16

guess, maybe also data. Yeah, so,

25:18

and a front U.S.B.A. port as

25:21

well. Yes. I like a metal case.

25:23

Yes, it's not quite as portable as

25:25

a July net. But I you know

25:27

with these with these more impressive antennas

25:29

that have better separation you also get

25:31

better Wi-Fi. Right. So I think who's

25:33

who's this for like anybody that's in

25:36

the market for a new router like

25:38

I was and I'll tell you why

25:40

here in a moment. It's it's a

25:42

really kind of purpose-built designed to run

25:44

open WRT firmware and that's what it's

25:46

for. So you want to be a

25:48

customer that's looking for that's looking for

25:50

that. saves you time it ensures compatibility

25:52

and they have a feature on here

25:54

which they call their unbrickable design and

25:56

they have a dual flash system like

25:59

i mentioned earlier the nand and the

26:01

nor and there's actually a physical toggle

26:03

toggle switch on the back where you

26:05

physically toggle what it's booting from. And

26:07

so if you bugger up the NAND

26:09

where you run from, you power it

26:11

off and you get a little like

26:13

a toothpaker or something, paper clip, and

26:15

you flip the physical toggle on the

26:17

back to NOR and then you power

26:19

it back up and it's in its

26:22

recovery environment. And then you can fix

26:24

the built-in OS. Which is really a

26:26

nice feature for something that's as important

26:28

as your ed router. Yes. And it

26:30

kind of gives you that confidence to

26:32

do the updates. And you're also buying

26:34

this because you're hoping updates go really

26:36

smooth because of that compatibility. It's first

26:38

party. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just honestly,

26:40

it's a quicker way to get started

26:42

with OpenWRT. It's hard where you know,

26:45

it's pretty decent. The price is decent

26:47

for most use cases. It does come

26:49

with the USBC power brick. The instructions

26:51

to set it up are the instructions

26:53

to set up OpenWRT. You plug in

26:55

your Ethernet adapter to it, it doesn't

26:57

have a Wi-Fi AP enabled by default,

26:59

it issues you in IP, you go

27:01

to 192, 168, 1.1, you log in

27:03

his route, you log in his route,

27:05

168, 1.1, you log in his route

27:08

with no password, and you go through

27:10

and set up your networking, and you

27:12

turn on the Wi-Fi if you want

27:14

it, and then you can reboot the

27:16

perfect time, boys. My wife has a

27:18

clinic and it's been coming along nice

27:20

for the last few months, but like

27:22

a bad husband, I have not set

27:24

her up with a network in her

27:26

office. So she doesn't have any internet?

27:28

No internet. Oh gosh. So it's probably

27:31

just using her phone? Yep. Using the

27:33

phone. And she can tether to the

27:35

phone. Right. So that'll get you by

27:37

for a while, but she's got to

27:39

run a business. She's got a network

27:41

printer she wants to use. She's got

27:43

a bunch of lights that could, you

27:45

know, be controlled. And I also would

27:47

like to throw a home assistant on

27:49

this land. Supposedly. She has a husband

27:51

and I.T. Yeah. I know. I've been

27:54

daydreaming it of how I would set

27:56

this up for her and this was.

27:58

sort of the

28:00

final piece piece because the building

28:02

she's in, she can't use use She doesn't have

28:04

a doesn't to the sky, but she's also on

28:06

the bottom floor. also She can't just bottom out on

28:08

the ground. just put like the Starlink out on

28:11

the ground of has of has

28:13

moral qualms about about doing business

28:15

with Comcast she just hates them them

28:17

and does not not want internet and that's the

28:19

only internet available in her office

28:21

building in course Of course. so we thought

28:23

well maybe we could get like a

28:25

like a five g myfi. hang it off one

28:27

of our of our and hook it up

28:29

to it up to a route. And I thought, well, I'll

28:31

something like that net, But then

28:33

this came out, and came would actually

28:35

prefer to just run prefer to for

28:37

her. stock And I just feel like it would give

28:39

her flexibility feel it gives me something I can maintain for

28:41

years. and it gives I know

28:43

that you can make for work with that

28:45

you I just wasn't quite sure on

28:48

that process. I just And it turns out

28:50

the way you do it process. And it a

28:52

the way you do it, the thing. do it. And

28:54

it has the OPEC package manager.

28:56

Oh yeah. And you just just update.

28:58

And then, and you can find find

29:00

instructions online and then it's like then

29:02

it's like two, three, four, five, about four,

29:04

a dozen packages a have to

29:06

install packages. You have to packages for the system

29:09

to make the USB port the system. which is

29:11

not all the support is there by default.

29:13

You need that make which USB port Start with a

29:15

minimal system and then I'll build it up.

29:17

people don't ever use those by default. You So

29:19

then once you have the dependencies installed, I which

29:21

I'll try to link to that in the

29:23

show notes. notes. you connect the MiFi device and

29:25

then you will see it show up as

29:27

a new interface now inside the the open WRT Google.

29:29

Okay, you're there, then you can kind of

29:31

do all your you can goodness. do all and you

29:33

can set up, you know, set it to

29:35

use DHCP, you that out. up, you know, set

29:37

just starts talking to it like it's

29:39

one of the interfaces just built into the

29:41

router of interfaces it took me the longest

29:43

thing was figuring out which packages I

29:45

needed to install it took me the I had

29:47

a guide I was kind of off

29:49

to the races out which packages I

29:52

can also, if you want, It has traffic

29:54

shaping options options, things you and other things

29:56

you can do to optimize performance and a

29:58

certain you can do. you can do. So really

30:00

impressed with that. Now, disclaimer, this is all

30:02

in the lab so far. I wanted to

30:04

actually have it here in the studio for

30:06

the review before I go and put it

30:09

in production, but over the holiday break, that's

30:11

kind of like one of my gifts to

30:13

her during the downtime as I'm gonna go

30:15

work in her office for a bit and

30:17

get some things going for her. And I

30:19

just think that this is really the perfect

30:22

solution for her office and for me as

30:24

a support person. A lot of times things

30:26

that are productized. They last for just a

30:28

couple of years. This is something that I'm

30:30

literally going to amount to the wall and

30:33

I hope I hope to not take it

30:35

out until she moves to a different clinic

30:37

and just keep it running. You forgot you

30:39

ever ever ever even set it up. Yeah,

30:41

and it just works like a clock I'm

30:43

hoping and it just works like a clock

30:46

I'm hoping and Wes you notice too like

30:48

it doesn't get too hot. You know I

30:50

had running some traffic through it. You can

30:52

noticeably notice it's like the the board's heat.

30:54

to the case. And I like the blue

30:56

color, it looks nice. Yeah, it's very sharp.

30:59

I mean, it's not the most beautiful piece

31:01

of equipment I've ever seen, but you know,

31:03

compared to a lot of the ugly networking

31:05

equipment out there that exists. It's totally fine.

31:07

And what I love about this too is

31:09

you could go just board only. Like if

31:12

I was building this as a solution into

31:14

Lady Jubes, I would just buy a bunch

31:16

of them for some particular use case and

31:18

you're making your own cases. part of your

31:20

purchase of this thing goes to support OpenWRT.

31:23

I'm surprised we haven't gotten here before. And

31:25

maybe it just wasn't the right SOC. What

31:27

do you think? I mean, it seems like

31:29

this is such a no-brainer for the project.

31:31

Is it maybe also something of like on

31:33

the project side in terms of the right

31:36

people, maturity processes, you know, because like you

31:38

got to, you're still maintaining your project that

31:40

you also got to do? I have to

31:42

say if anybody from the OpenWRT project or

31:44

that was involved with the one is listening,

31:46

linuxunplug.com/contact, we'd love to know the background. I

31:49

am officially a fan. Because like, well, you

31:51

know, what if this had turned into their

31:53

quota row? Right. God forbid. Nobody wants that

31:55

to happen. You know, and it's funny because

31:57

I don't know what I expected, but what

31:59

I am pleased about is how much it

32:02

doesn't feel like a custom product from them.

32:04

It just feels like an open WRT generic

32:06

system running open WRT really well. Without you

32:08

having to flash it or pay some other.

32:10

Party that you're not going to use their

32:13

software and it doesn't feel like I have

32:15

something that like requires some sort of proprietary

32:17

subscription or you know some sort of like

32:19

value ad package on top of it That

32:21

they have to continue. No, it's just it's

32:23

just the same old thing I'm used to

32:26

and I know it's going to run forever

32:28

So I definitely recommend the one if you're

32:30

looking for something that's in this kind of

32:32

this mid tier category. You know it's got

32:34

like I said the two ports and the

32:36

2.5 gig port for you know your higher

32:39

speeds and your one gig for your maybe

32:41

your land interface or whatever it might be

32:43

depending on your setup. Can you do vice

32:45

versa? Yeah you could. That's actually how I

32:47

have it set up right now. You know

32:49

you got slow, slow upstream. Yeah I got

32:52

slower upstream and I so I have the

32:54

land port on the faster one just because

32:56

I figure. Because I figure why I figure

32:58

why I figure why I figure why I

33:00

figure why I figure why I figure why.

33:03

some bang in Wi-Fi, especially for the use

33:05

cases that she's using. She's going to be

33:07

using for because she's just in like one

33:09

office, you know, one rented office room. So

33:11

it's going to work awesome for her. So

33:13

really, congratulations to the team over there and

33:16

check it out if you're in the market.

33:18

I wonder. Do you think we'll see another

33:20

one? Do you think this goes well enough?

33:22

You know. as hardware improves, you know, Wi-Fi-7,

33:24

whatever, they put out additional ones. Maybe they

33:26

have two and a half gig ports, the

33:29

next one. Or, you know what, if they

33:31

would have had one that just had a

33:33

Sim card slot built in. 100% what about

33:35

that? Or, you know, if you want to

33:37

start competing with something like the PEP link,

33:39

you could really put two Sim slots in

33:42

this thing and then have failover. Or, maybe

33:44

some kind of combining. I mean, you don't

33:46

want to get crazy, get crazy, but, but

33:48

there's going to get crazy, but there's, but

33:50

there's some room, there's some room, there's, to,

33:52

to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,

33:55

to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,

33:57

to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,

33:59

to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,

34:01

to, to, to, to, to, The cellular as

34:03

data for a small business or a family

34:06

is shockingly popular. more so than I think

34:08

it should be. And there's a thriving market

34:10

out there of people that are living in

34:12

tiny homes and RVs or just live in

34:14

an area where the cellular option is the

34:16

better option and there's not really a bunch

34:19

of great products under $300 to address those

34:21

markets. Some of them, you know, like the

34:23

GLI nets get pretty close and then at

34:25

the higher end it's like a thousand dollars.

34:27

But this thing sitting here at 90 bucks,

34:29

U.S. Greenbacks. really would slide into a nice

34:32

bottom. You could bump that up to 110,

34:34

120 to supplement the extra capabilities and still

34:36

be very, very competitive. And the performance seems

34:38

to be great. I think it can handle

34:40

it just fine even with the current system.

34:42

But I bet you ask if this is

34:45

successful, the next one comes when the board

34:47

that it's based on gets a real solid

34:49

iteration or two. And then you know, you

34:51

can drop it and you know something. Yeah.

34:53

I like it. And if I ever have

34:56

any failures or if I have to use

34:58

the recovery mode, I'll, I'll, I'll report back.

35:00

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36:15

Happy holidays and thanks for the

36:18

festive, we did pluck out a

36:20

few little feedback items here. items

36:22

here. wrote in in the use

36:24

of the Raspberry Pi in in industry.

36:26

It says, regarding the use of

36:29

the Raspberry Pi, in industry specifically, work

36:31

in software but in a small

36:33

company that also designs our

36:35

own hardware. our own One of the

36:37

surprising and valuable uses for

36:39

the Pi uses for the pie is that can

36:41

use it as a it as a jig. at

36:43

contract manufacturing facilities. So it goes on

36:45

to explain how to pie is widely

36:47

used for jigs in manufacturing, jigs in manufacturing,

36:49

that new hardware, they have to also

36:51

provide the manufacturer with a device

36:54

to flash and test each unit. to

36:56

So as a jig, each serves this

36:58

purpose, much like a woodworking jig. like

37:00

It's a custom tool to build and

37:02

test the final products. the Since only

37:04

only... Tens or hundreds of jigs are ever

37:06

made, it can be compared to

37:08

thousands of end devices that... that get

37:10

committed to. committed The The development

37:13

time are kept to a minimal.

37:15

time are kept Therefore minimal. is ideal

37:17

for this. to the low due to

37:19

the low-price sample GPIO pens, lots lots of

37:21

efficient cost -effective testing without inflating

37:23

the overall production budget. budget. I

37:25

mean I mean, that makes sense. you You know,

37:27

you need kind of a general purpose compute you

37:29

could set up and have do a very specific

37:31

task. It's not too not too expensive. And it makes

37:33

a lot it makes a lot more sense if you're

37:35

only going to produce a handful of them to just

37:37

use that than some purpose built computer that you

37:39

would that would cost probably years to just to just design

37:41

and figure that out. And I'm sure figure that

37:43

out. And I'm sure there's tons of places

37:45

you wouldn't it, but I think but I think they've

37:47

really shown that like... pretty robust. So like, could we we

37:49

get away with saying when we do something

37:52

rickety we're just kind of throwing something in

37:54

together like a pie or a 32 -bit system

37:56

system or some old? It's just just a jig. then And

37:58

then that makes it a a technical term and it's...

38:00

It's a form of craft now. Isn't your

38:02

whole old mass system at home based on

38:04

my concept? Yeah, my home lab's a bit

38:06

of a jig. Yeah, exactly. I think that's

38:09

probably fair. MJVC wrote in a bit late,

38:11

but I wanted to share my longest running

38:13

distro. Believe it or not. For the server,

38:15

it has been Nick's OS for 11 years.

38:18

We're way behind the ball here. Yep. I

38:20

would love to just hear about all the

38:22

changes. Can we see the config? Can we

38:24

see like a condensed time lapse of your

38:27

get config? Yeah. Oh, the time lapse of

38:29

a config would be hilarious. On the desktop,

38:31

I've bounced back and forth between Arch and

38:33

NixoS for about as long. I'm trying to

38:36

remember how long I've been using NixoS and

38:38

I found an old config from the pre-flake

38:40

days I used in college. been listening since

38:42

the London Duke days so it's so I'm

38:45

glad to hear you finally have seen the

38:47

light with XOS I feel like this is

38:49

one of the listeners who kept like sending

38:51

notes every six months yes say hey guys

38:54

we definitely had a continue to folks like

38:56

you guys really got to try this out

38:58

for a long time. P.S. folks for AI

39:00

and ML workloads what I have found helpful

39:03

is running Incas INC US and Arch and

39:05

Abunto containers per project with a common home

39:07

directory managed by System D, Home D. You

39:09

can pass the GPU devices in easily and

39:12

even split the fancier GPUs into virtual GPUs.

39:14

Yeah, that's a cool tip. I think Incas

39:16

is gonna be maybe an episode we should

39:18

do in 2025. Yeah, okay. All right, let's

39:21

talk about that. Before we get into the

39:23

boost this week, we do just have a

39:25

quick point of housekeeping. Perhaps not possible. Nothing

39:28

can do that. We are time traveling right

39:30

now. We are recording in the future, which

39:32

is your past as you listen. So if

39:34

you boosted the Tuxis episode last week, you're

39:37

not going to hear it in this week's

39:39

episode, but we will be reading them in

39:41

the following week's episode. So we will go

39:43

back into your timeline around January 5th.

39:46

synced up and once

39:48

again in the same the

39:50

same that is and that is

39:52

are produced at that

39:55

point are where you

39:57

will hear your at that

39:59

sense forward is where you will but

40:01

you'll find out Does

40:04

all make sense in

40:06

time you'll find out. and sense in

40:08

go score and do have

40:10

ago. We do get into boost

40:13

to do you say

40:15

should we start with

40:17

this say? Should we start with is

40:19

not even the right

40:22

boost? I don't think Boller of

40:24

them all them all. right

40:26

here we go ladies

40:28

and gentlemen our our this

40:31

week is week is mr.

40:33

with one million two

40:35

hundred and two thousand five

40:37

hundred and five hundred and sixty

40:40

seven sets sex

40:51

hybrid hybrid

40:56

rights 2004 has been a heck

40:58

of a year I deployed

41:00

image to everyone's phones phones I

41:02

from from vanilla wire guard to also

41:04

switched from PF switched from PF cents to

41:06

became a became a tail scale started

41:08

daily driving a new started

41:10

with plasma a new framework 13 with begun

41:12

the transition from Plex transition from

41:14

plex to jelly thin impressive hybrid hybrid I

41:17

submitted my submitted my very first

41:19

source to an open source

41:21

project Nice. Oh, was accepted Hopefully, that's

41:23

great already in the one we've in

41:25

the Gatio one Anyways, I I started

41:27

stacking sats because I've also

41:29

become a a hodler, I just

41:31

finished setting up my up my

41:33

ALBI wallet Oh my goodness of this

41:35

was of this was made

41:37

possible thanks to Jupiter Broadcasting, Linux

41:39

and and Mr. Fisher. No hybrid, it's made

41:41

possible because of your support

41:43

really that's what keeps us

41:45

going us also went through a

41:47

lot a get us us these sets,

41:50

including getting alby up up and and

41:52

working with us us,

41:54

we appreciate that

41:56

real that. some people

41:58

could have just been

42:00

too much have just been...

42:02

Too much, says also

42:04

to celebrate the new

42:06

year the new year. I am

42:09

am sponsored a prize for

42:11

the 2025 boosties. All right, listen up

42:13

everybody, this is really awesome. So the

42:15

person who boosts in with the total

42:17

largest amount for 2025 will thus be

42:19

winning the 2025 boosties and will win

42:21

a free Jupiter party membership supplied by

42:23

Hybrid Sarcasm. So whoever is the top

42:25

booster for 2025 will automatically win a

42:27

membership from hybrid or if you already

42:29

have a membership, you can then gift

42:31

it, I would assume, to somebody. So

42:33

that could also be a possibility. He

42:35

says if deleted ends up winning the

42:38

2024 boosties, I'm also going to gift

42:40

him an annual party membership too. And

42:42

then he also wants to boost in

42:44

to promote Carl to producer staff. That

42:46

seems right. Yeah, that's a good idea.

42:48

Producer Carl sounds pretty good. I mean,

42:50

we should let him know. But I,

42:52

do we agree? Yeah, he, obviously the

42:54

right of refusal. We have a quorum

42:56

though. Brent, do you agree? I'm in.

42:58

Easily, yes. All right. As long as

43:00

he comes with pocket meat. Yeah, producer

43:02

pocket meat. Yeah, producer pocket meat. PM.

43:05

We got PJ and PM. I love

43:07

it. All right, then we released the

43:09

Eagle of Agreement. Vamex boosts in with

43:11

25,000 cents. Well, I'll be dipped. Hey,

43:13

Merry Merry Merry Christmas, y'all. I have

43:15

a next question for you. I set

43:17

up image frame and now I want

43:19

to turn an old laptop into a

43:21

little display. I want to configure Nixos

43:23

so it simply boots into image frame

43:25

without the need for login or interaction.

43:27

I have my Nixos file linked, I'm

43:29

having trouble getting it to work, would

43:31

appreciate any pointers or suggestions on using

43:34

Nixos as an appliance. So he wants

43:36

to auto boot and like I would imagine

43:38

an environment that is going to load a

43:40

browser because image, I think if you talk

43:42

when I'm using, image frame. is a way

43:45

to show and display your photos stored an

43:47

image on say like a tablet or another

43:49

display device in a web browser. That's like

43:51

a digital photo display thing. And it works

43:54

really great. This is now what I am

43:56

using on all of my home assistant tablets

43:58

around the home. And I love it. I

44:01

think we're talking about the same thing. I

44:03

might be talking about image kiosk, I'm not

44:05

sure. Oh, PS is second boostier. I should

44:07

mention I have auto login figured out now.

44:10

It's the SystemDX host service to try and

44:12

allow SystemB to launch a graphical application for

44:14

me on boot that I'm struggling with. Also,

44:16

I highly recommend Albee Hub Painless Dead Simple

44:19

to set up single binary. I have connected

44:21

to Albee to send receive payments and behind

44:23

tail scale. And it's a lot of fun

44:25

too. Nice setup. Okay, so, so you got

44:28

an auto logging. He solved this problem before

44:30

we could give him that answer. I think

44:32

there's still some stuff to figure out. So

44:35

if anyone has, you know, maybe Boostin, if

44:37

you know, go take a look at the

44:39

config, which we'll have linked. I don't have

44:41

any advice on the top of my head

44:44

just because it's not a problem I've solved

44:46

for myself, but I am curious, because now

44:48

I kind of won't want. I'll tell you

44:50

how I solved it. And then it has

44:53

a paid app, right, right? But it's good.

44:55

Yes, although you can use a lot of

44:57

it can use a lot of it for

44:59

free. But it is worth paying for because

45:02

I think one of the things you get

45:04

to do is mess around with the screen

45:06

saver settings and then in there you can

45:09

have it pull up a web browser for

45:11

a screen saver. Which works fantastic. This is

45:13

just because Vamex was talking about Albihub. One

45:15

trick with Albihub if you're setting one up

45:18

out there is which LSP you go with

45:20

to get your inbound channel? Megalith, Megalith, that's

45:22

one to try if you're not sure which

45:24

one to pay. Part of hybrid was having

45:27

problems with maybe was related to the LSP

45:29

which was flash sets so maybe don't try

45:31

that one. Okay. Well Todd from Northern VA

45:33

sent in Super Road Ducks. This is an

45:36

Albee wallet sunset boost. All sets must go.

45:38

Happy holidays to you guys. Well Todd I

45:40

hope you're not out of the boost game

45:43

because of course you can always use breeze.

45:45

And if you're shutting down an Albee wallet

45:47

you can send those stats to Breeze or

45:49

to a fountain wallet. You can create a

45:52

fountain account using the app and then you

45:54

can actually from that point forward just boost

45:56

from the web. And you don't actually need

45:58

the fountain app to boost once you have

46:01

the account created. Because we love hearing from

46:03

you Todd. Thank you for that boost. Autobrain

46:05

comes in with 10,000 sets. I hate building

46:07

PCs. Boost! It's my new favorite expression. I

46:10

am stacking flags. Boost! Yeah, stacking flags. Like

46:12

stack flags. Yeah, you got a stack flags.

46:14

No, stack MP3s. You got a stack flags.

46:17

You got a stack flags. Congrew paradox. Busts

46:19

in with 10,101. Satoches. You're doing a good

46:21

job. Just a last minute question, what app

46:23

are you using for navigation? I'm looking to

46:26

get away from all those Google apps. Oh

46:28

boy, that's a big one. That's a big

46:30

question. Contentious topic. Oh boy. So, um, you

46:32

know, I think Magic Earth is kind of

46:35

my current contender. Yeah, I think Magic Earth

46:37

is kind of my current contender. Yeah, I

46:39

still use Google Maps, if I'm honest, but

46:42

I use Magic Earth as well. Yeah. Then

46:44

I have, like, like, the RV life has

46:46

one for the RV life has one for

46:48

the RV life as one for the RV

46:51

life has one for the RV life has

46:53

one for the RV, and then for the

46:55

RV, and then, and then, and then, and

46:57

then, and then, and then, and then, and

47:00

then, and then, and then, and then, you

47:02

know, like burning a CD crazy, but paper,

47:04

physical GPSes are kind of great guys. They're

47:06

kind of great. Oh, you're not even going

47:09

full map, you're just going to a different

47:11

GPS. Yeah, I mean, I only do it

47:13

in my RV, but man, every time I'm

47:16

doing, I'm like, I could do this in

47:18

the car. Like it's really nice to have

47:20

a dedicated device, purpose built, that has a

47:22

couple extra features, and then your phone is

47:25

not responsible for that responsible for that at

47:27

all. Could be a way to go. And

47:29

you're listening to your MP3 player while you're

47:31

doing it? Yeah, well, actually, I am, I

47:34

actually have a portable, portable CD player and

47:36

then I have one of those tape adapters.

47:38

Oh, there you go. Yeah, that's how I

47:40

do it. Stack Sacre 7 comes in with

47:43

2,000 cents. No message, though, just sending us

47:45

some boost value, and we really appreciate it.

47:47

C. Mac Sun booths in with 13, 337

47:50

in with 13,37. I've been using Zen lickerics

47:52

and various Zen mod patches regularly for years

47:54

now. Yeah, but... So I I

47:56

was definitely happy to

47:59

hear you to hear you stuff

48:01

on the stuff episode episode,

48:03

with 612 with 6-12. I prefer to

48:05

to have zero system lockups in my machine.

48:07

though. What? What? What? You bether than me? than me? some I've

48:09

had some serious lockup problems with using kernel

48:12

in in a VM workstation So I'd recommend not I'd

48:14

recommend not using these kinds of kernels

48:16

in those environments. That makes a lot of

48:18

sense. of sense. Love episode. Yeah, only on physical

48:20

hardware, I think is a good solid caveat for

48:22

for playing around with these kind of

48:24

more performance optimized kernels. How kernels. However. If

48:27

If anybody knows of a a kernel out there,

48:29

particularly optimized for VMs, you know, that could

48:31

be a thing. Let me know. a know, I

48:33

You think Let ended up, I'm, when I rebuilt

48:35

my machine, I I tried to get like I

48:37

rebuilt but. machine, I wasn't in the get

48:39

And then it was, so now I'm using

48:41

wasn't in the it's been good. Any fan was, so now

48:43

I'm anything? No, that. Oh, really? Yeah, same, I think.

48:45

Good to know. I should try some audio

48:48

stuff extras or anything? No. About the

48:50

in I think. I should try some

48:52

audio stuff, Amorphous. total. Boy,

48:54

they they are doing a lot with Mayo

48:56

these days. Across two two booths. the first

48:58

one says, okay, listen. OK, listen. early 2024,

49:00

I was I was like... I like podcasts.

49:02

I like And I Are there any Are

49:04

there any podcasts around Linux? And well,

49:06

that's how I that's how I found Linux,

49:08

unplugged, and then the other other JB podcast.

49:11

Nice. One of my One of my first

49:13

episodes was where you discussed the

49:15

top five apps to install on

49:17

a fresh system and the audience

49:19

mentioned tail tail scale. I was like, yeah,

49:21

interesting, but I'll probably never be

49:23

that technical or into it. be

49:25

that technical or into it.

49:27

I have my first self scale. I

49:30

have my first running Mealy, Home Assistant,

49:32

and many more to come. merely,

49:35

home assistant, also set

49:37

up my very own

49:39

also set up my very right, Hub

49:41

now. All you know what? All

49:43

of this is your fault, fault. All

49:45

because of you. You got

49:47

me addicted. What do

49:49

you have to say say yourselves? You're

49:52

welcome. Yeah, and knew it deserve a pat on

49:54

on the back. sorry, and and sorry

49:56

about that. In all honesty, they continue.

49:58

Thank you so much you do.

50:00

Here's to a successful 2025. Please

50:02

keep being the weekly companion and

50:04

motivator that you all have been

50:06

for me. Well, thank you. Also

50:08

shout out to Nostromo with the

50:10

Linux town root boost from last

50:12

week. I grew up five minutes

50:14

away from there and never realized

50:16

the fact that it's a Linux

50:18

themed town name. I'm glad to

50:20

see the Swiss community well represented

50:22

last week, especially because our government

50:24

passed the law that their agencies

50:27

can only use open source software.

50:29

Hey, hey, how do we talk

50:31

our government into that? Yeah, that's

50:33

that's great to hear. Well, thank

50:35

you, Amorph. Really appreciate that boost

50:37

and great work on all of

50:39

that. That as a that's some

50:41

solid self -hosted productivity. Well

50:43

done. Runaway comes in with 2000

50:45

sets. B O O S G.

50:47

I've been using kitty as my

50:49

terminal on GNOME. Okay, kitty. I

50:52

would have assumed that was a

50:54

KDE one. I have been soliciting

50:56

great GNOME terminals the right. doesn't

50:58

match the aesthetics, but the performance

51:00

is worth it. It opens up

51:02

instantly. It's lightweight and it's hardware

51:04

accelerated scrolling is so smooth on

51:06

my 240 Hertz monitor, something that

51:08

home console just couldn't pull off.

51:10

You speak in my language. My

51:12

main screen is like 120 or

51:14

160 Hertz. I'm not 240, but

51:16

I do appreciate it when something

51:18

can take advantage of that. Thank

51:20

but you, Runaway. All right, I'll

51:22

look into kitty. K I T

51:24

T Y. User 62 boost in

51:26

2001. Hey, Chris, I have a

51:28

me forums UM 790 with a

51:30

similar graphics card to your B

51:33

link that also hardlocked with Nick's

51:35

OS. Okay, I solved it by

51:37

installing L A C T and

51:39

going to the OC tab changed

51:41

performance level to the lowest clocks.

51:43

Not ideal for gaming, but the

51:45

UM 790 didn't lock up since.

51:47

Okay, well, I kind of love

51:49

to know that's even a thing

51:51

because I could see when I'm

51:53

off in the woods running off

51:55

battery and I generally leave my

51:57

PC running even then because I'm

51:59

a maniac. I could see tossing this

52:01

thing thing mode, and maybe and out

52:03

a couple eking out a couple watts.

52:05

another data point here, the previous

52:08

owner never had problems the previous owner never

52:10

had problems in Windows. No. Say, hey,

52:12

I heard an argument actually. You know,

52:14

I almost purchased the

52:16

the Forum, um, 790. it

52:19

was like like. top of of

52:21

my list to purchase when I was looking for

52:23

a little computer at the co -working space at the

52:25

co-working space, plus months ago, maybe at the start

52:27

of the year, the start of the year, ultimately did go

52:29

with the same -link that you have, Chris, but. that

52:31

you have Chris, but so glad to hear that

52:33

some people in our community have this thing

52:35

and have this guess, solving problems with it and

52:37

running it successfully, with it and running it you go because

52:39

once you computers, you get addicted and I feel

52:42

like I need another one. and I

52:44

so nice. I I really do love it. so

52:46

nice. Chattymike. Mike comes in

52:48

with comes in with 4005 Sats. Banks are Ponzi schemes

52:50

run by morons. by morons. And a few

52:52

booths. And you know you know what, pointing

52:54

Chattie Mike, we should have

52:56

put a banner on our website

52:58

a banner on our website idea or

53:00

not the boosties. I'm sorry the idea. Or

53:02

not the so much to do also.

53:04

He says voting. a refresh? What about

53:07

the summer tuxes? he says, how about a refresh? What

53:09

I could see a version if we were

53:11

to keep doing the tuxes Tuxes? wear the the

53:13

We'll just we'll just this point. I'm not I'm

53:15

not convinced I'm are convinced we are. could see see in

53:17

the summer and then releasing it in the winter. releasing

53:19

it the winter. weird. I don't know I

53:21

don't know. Focus on one on one or

53:23

three projects getting prizes. Hmm. That could be in

53:26

other be in other ways. Only a few projects get the

53:28

prizes, but then we have other categories that. have other Also suggesting

53:30

some sort of connection with some sort of connection

53:32

with game. the put some here in the the game, Boost

53:34

for the month. Focus on one to three

53:36

projects getting prizes. You set the initial list

53:38

of entries and allow boosting to add new

53:40

ones. That's interesting. Yeah, I guess that would

53:42

be a way to signal actual like skin

53:44

in the game that something like that. signal

53:46

actual right, well, there's a lot to

53:49

think they're behind I appreciate it We are definitely

53:51

still kind of in the reflecting mode, so I

53:53

value that feedback and I appreciate it. We

53:55

are definitely in kind of in

53:57

the reflecting mode, so I value that

53:59

feedback. a tasty burger. Long-time title subscriber

54:01

here for the reasons already mentioned on

54:03

the show, but also for its Dolby

54:06

Atmos selection. Oh yeah. Title media downloader

54:08

I guess is unmaintained for some time,

54:10

so title, DLNG or my project, title

54:13

dash, wave, are all alternatives. Oh yeah,

54:15

okay. Okay, well check those out and

54:17

get some links. Thank you for telling

54:19

us that. And I'm gonna definitely check

54:22

out title dash wave. That's cool man.

54:24

Well done on that. And it's interesting

54:26

to hear that we've sort of hit

54:28

a note with title. We've been hearing

54:31

a lot. And it just sort of

54:33

came up organically, I think, during the

54:35

boost at one point. A less-entified service?

54:38

Great. Yeah. Look at us. We're happy.

54:40

Yes, please. Well, the Arctic Splendor sent

54:42

in a row of ducks. Longtime listener,

54:44

way back to the mat days. And,

54:47

well, first time booster. Thank you all

54:49

for the content and entertain and entertainments.

54:51

Thank you for going through the long

54:53

journey of setting up the boost and

54:56

for listening so gosh darn long I

54:58

know we still got that new guy

55:00

West on the show. Can you believe

55:02

it? That's right. Thank you very much

55:05

Arctic. It's nice to hear from you

55:07

Gene Bean booths in with ten thousand

55:09

four hundred and sixty four cents Gene

55:12

Bean Ooh, it crossed like seven booths

55:14

here. Fun will now commence. Alrighty, let's

55:16

try this whole streaming sets and boosting

55:18

via Alby Hub and Castomatic thing. Nice.

55:21

Which, hey, we've received them. This one

55:23

was a double boost, but we got

55:25

both. Hey, nice. Okay, on Lubb 581,

55:27

I'm really interested in the immutable arch

55:30

setup of Katie Linux. Regarding what other

55:32

distributions provide, one thing is compatibility with

55:34

third-party commercial apps like slack and zoom

55:37

and many others. Well. But you don't

55:39

get maybe the download the DeB RPM.

55:41

Yeah. Yeah. I, I, okay, let's just.

55:43

Is that less relevant in 2025? Well,

55:46

I wonder, especially as flat hub transitions

55:48

into more of its own entity. And

55:50

let's just take a moment and say

55:52

in two, two, three years, Ghanoma West

55:55

and Katie E. have a respectable amount

55:57

of users. Does that then start encouraging

55:59

companies like slack and discord and all

56:02

these other groups to package directly to

56:04

flat pack and more so? It does

56:06

that kind of create the network effect

56:08

and demand around flat packs, maybe, we'll

56:11

wait and see. Does anything change with

56:13

this new flat hub organization? Right. Could

56:15

there be more like synergy with the

56:17

company? Because it's more vendor independent, perhaps.

56:20

Yes. I love that he got IPICS,

56:22

he working over HDP. Gene Bean, you

56:24

machine. Love 591, year of ability for

56:26

sure. Yeah, yeah. Comes in to say,

56:29

I have to admit, I was kind

56:31

of surprised that you guys didn't know

56:33

about VEM. It's the gold standard for

56:36

backups in a VEMware environment. That's probably

56:38

why I haven't worked in a VEM.

56:40

It does probably why I haven't worked

56:42

in a VEM. It does ring a

56:45

bell though. You haven't really heard of

56:47

them. Just never used them. And they've

56:49

got a good native solution for cloud

56:51

solution for cloud-native solution for cloud environments

56:54

for cloud environments for cloud environments. It's

56:56

really good tooling. Well, nice. Thank you

56:58

for that. That's even better that the

57:01

proximox got a nice support for it

57:03

then. Gene, thank you. It's good to

57:05

hear from you. Glad you got a

57:07

boost in on our last episode of

57:10

the year. Also, here's a test boost

57:12

for debugging with me, which also thank

57:14

you for doing this. Yes, we appreciate

57:16

it. We're glad you got a hubgo.

57:19

That's so cool! This

57:22

one's through breeze first time boost

57:24

from down under also. Very well

57:26

done. Thank you Also this episode

57:28

happens to be a post code

57:31

boost Oh, oh Wes Did you

57:33

West did you? Yes. Oh good

57:35

code is a better deal bring

57:37

the map though He never forgets.

57:39

It's impressive. You know you had

57:42

that big holiday I got flip

57:44

it upside down Well, it's down

57:46

under the yeah, the other part.

57:48

No right there. Yeah There you

57:51

go careful careful careful careful did

57:53

you get that stain out from

57:55

last week? No, when would we?

57:57

When would we? Okay,

58:00

watch out here. Okay. Let's see here.

58:02

I think right 2680. Yep. I think

58:04

that looks like maybe somewhere around Griffith

58:06

in New South Wales Australia. Hello New

58:08

South Wales Australia Is that might I

58:10

think it's a I think it's an

58:12

Oprah Winfrey Australia Lieutenant Mirth comes in

58:14

with 10,000 sets. I just listened to

58:17

episode 591 plus one for Tectenium DNS.

58:19

I used AgGuard home for years until

58:21

I had an internet outage and hit

58:23

a bug which caused lookups to time

58:25

out if the upstream servers were unavailable.

58:27

Even for local domains. Oh. That meant

58:29

that none of my jellyfin clients could

58:31

resolve their server host name. I think

58:33

we've, just a pause, I think we've

58:35

all been here at one point. Yeah.

58:38

Oh, this one thing, I didn't realize

58:40

it was now internet, secretly internet dependence.

58:42

Yes, I have accidentally done that. And

58:44

there's been times where the only way

58:46

I discovered is I take the rig

58:48

out into somewhere where I have no

58:50

internet and see what breaks. High uptime

58:52

problems we have. It is, yeah, it's

58:54

a rough problem. It's meant that none

58:56

of my jelly clients could resolve and

58:59

we can resolve and we can have

59:01

that, and we can't have that. So

59:03

I move my network to tectin have

59:05

that. So I move my network to

59:07

titanium, so I move my network to

59:09

tectinium and I move my network to

59:11

tectinium, and I haven't have, and I

59:13

haven't, and I haven't, and I haven't,

59:15

and I haven't, and I haven't, and

59:17

I haven't, and I haven't, and I

59:20

haven't, and I haven't, and I haven't,

59:22

and I haven as to Chris's question

59:24

regarding the use cases for the rest

59:26

API. Well, I have a couple examples.

59:28

Simple one. When I encounter a website

59:30

that doesn't work quite right, I have

59:32

a Zigbee button on my desk that

59:34

triggers a home assistant automation, which calls

59:36

the Tectidium API to disabled DNS blocking

59:38

for 15 minutes. You need this west.

59:40

I do, you're right. And I need

59:43

this. Let's get it going. All right.

59:45

2025. That's so good. We should, yeah,

59:47

I would love to see how this

59:49

is happening. How this is happening, like

59:51

share. Like share. share how you're doing

59:53

this and the community could just take

59:55

off. Thank you, Lieutenant. That is, that's

59:57

a great example. I

1:00:00

can't wait to just blow up my

1:00:03

current DNS system and replace it and

1:00:05

slowly get it working again over time.

1:00:07

It's going to be great. Simon Boosin

1:00:10

with a row of ducks. Oh chiming

1:00:12

in on net boot dot x y

1:00:14

z. Great on your key ring, USB

1:00:16

thumb drive, especially combined with something like

1:00:19

vent toy. Oh yeah. Or just their

1:00:21

EMI binary which you can drop in

1:00:23

any machines slash boot slash EFI, making

1:00:26

it selectable when booting if you want.

1:00:28

I meant to mention that in the

1:00:30

episode. Yeah, that's a great rescue option.

1:00:33

Or to replace the OS on something

1:00:35

like a bone-headed VPS like Oracle Cloud.

1:00:37

Unlimited power! That's a clever idea. We

1:00:39

do love a good VPS hot swap.

1:00:42

That is, yeah. You would need like

1:00:44

a net boot server on the land

1:00:46

with the VPS, I suppose. Of course,

1:00:49

I still want to try to make

1:00:51

it work over tail scale. Anyways, that's

1:00:53

great. Thank you, Simon. Very clever. Well

1:00:56

Chris you might want to get your

1:00:58

soundboard finger ready for this one because

1:01:00

we got 3,000 Sats from the Wine

1:01:02

Eagle. How's that? Don't you have a

1:01:05

hawk or something? Sure sure here you

1:01:07

go you ready you're ready? I don't

1:01:09

know if he's drunk though. Yeah sounds

1:01:12

a little drunk. Keep up the kernel

1:01:14

stuff and whatever you do. It's good

1:01:16

listening on a well-produced podcast either way.

1:01:19

Linux Unplugged has everything reviews test suggestions

1:01:21

news interviews booths and The live mumble

1:01:23

input best general Linux show. Oh, thank

1:01:25

you. You know what that should be

1:01:28

our slogan right there. Thank you very

1:01:30

much Oh, but he's voting for some

1:01:32

BSD love. I've been kind of having

1:01:35

the itch too guys I've been thinking

1:01:37

we should do something there's a new

1:01:39

BSD free B release out I could

1:01:42

see us taking a look at it,

1:01:44

you know, flirting with it for one

1:01:46

week. Perhaps, we could see. Also, he

1:01:48

says he has an open sense router

1:01:51

and open WRT WAP using Flint too

1:01:53

set up. I'd love to hear more

1:01:55

about that. That could be right up

1:01:58

my alley. Could you expand on that,

1:02:00

sir? Also what you'd like to know

1:02:02

from the BSD side because we're not

1:02:05

BSD experts So what would you like

1:02:07

to hear because we'd kind of be

1:02:09

strangers in a foreign land? I suppose

1:02:11

and Before we wrap up we had

1:02:14

one last baller boost that came in

1:02:16

live just as we were recording it

1:02:18

is the dude abides with two hundred

1:02:21

thousand sets Oh

1:02:23

my god, this drawer is filled

1:02:25

with fruit lobes! They write, hello!

1:02:27

Heyo! Hello! It's been a long

1:02:29

time since I boosted. So here's

1:02:32

something combined for the last episodes.

1:02:34

I also wanted to be in

1:02:36

the top three boosters. I admit,

1:02:38

gamification is a thing. Next year,

1:02:40

maybe even first. Happy holidays, guys.

1:02:43

Well, happy holidays to you, the

1:02:45

dude. Thank you so much for

1:02:47

the live boost. Appreciate you. We

1:02:49

had... 33 of you stream Sats

1:02:51

as you listen to the pod.

1:02:54

I can't call it that. I'm

1:02:56

sorry. As you listen to the

1:02:58

podcast. I tried. I wanted to

1:03:00

try it. I just, it doesn't

1:03:03

work. And you streamers, you stacked

1:03:05

95, 204 Sats. Thank you, thank

1:03:07

you, thank you. And then we

1:03:09

had 22 of you boost in

1:03:11

a message. And of course, hybrid

1:03:14

sarcasm was our absolute blow, a

1:03:16

baller this week. So he weighed

1:03:18

very heavily in here. but all

1:03:20

of you working together we stacked

1:03:22

and absolutely remarkable. One million five

1:03:25

hundred and seventy seven thousand two

1:03:27

hundred and twelve sets this episode.

1:03:38

I really appreciate it. It's a great way

1:03:40

to round out the year. We're making plans

1:03:42

for 2025 to make a great and your

1:03:44

support combined with our members has kept us

1:03:47

on the air in an unbelievably hard time

1:03:49

for podcasts. Thank you so much and we

1:03:51

love your messages. It's one of our absolute

1:03:53

favorite parts of the show. It's real easy

1:03:55

to boost with fountain. Strike or Cash App

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or the Bitcoin Well or River. These are

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all great trusted platforms and services. We'll put

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some links in the show notes. Thank you

1:04:04

everybody who boosts in. We really really appreciate

1:04:06

you. Thanks for keeping us going. Episode 595

1:04:08

is possible because of you. You'll have to

1:04:11

allow some nostalgia. But this is a barn

1:04:13

burner pick. If you ever played the descent

1:04:15

games. The Dissent One and Two games, which

1:04:17

took the whole 3D first-person player to a

1:04:19

whole new level by going into 3D space,

1:04:22

you're inside a ship, a spaceship, and you

1:04:24

go inside caves, and you fight robots, and

1:04:26

like you save scientists. And it has been

1:04:28

kind of a pain over the years to

1:04:30

get running on Linux to various degrees of

1:04:32

success. One of my all-time favorite games as

1:04:35

a kid. Loved. Descent, 1 and 2. And

1:04:37

DXXX rebirth is a project that makes it

1:04:39

possible to play Descent 1 and 2 games

1:04:41

on Linux with pristine compatibility, including all the

1:04:43

expansion packs, all the third-party levels, full joystick,

1:04:46

keyboard, mouse, all used simultaneously. full resolution support,

1:04:48

add on packs, multiplayer via UDP protocols over

1:04:50

the land, you can bring over your player

1:04:52

files and your save games from the original

1:04:54

game and drop them in here, and it

1:04:57

works, bah, you, tah, flea. I was taken

1:04:59

back to, you know, just a beautiful moment

1:05:01

of nostalgia bliss, because you can go get

1:05:03

these games on gog.com for super cheap. I'll

1:05:05

put a link in the show notes. Then

1:05:08

what you do is you download their EXE,

1:05:10

use wine to run through the extractor, and

1:05:12

then you just go grab the game files,

1:05:14

you drop it in the data directory, the

1:05:16

app tells you what data director to drop

1:05:18

them in the first time you use it,

1:05:21

you drop it. the files in the data

1:05:23

directory and then you are playing a Linux

1:05:25

native version of the game at its absolute

1:05:27

best. It never looked better, it never sounded

1:05:29

better, it never goes better on your screen.

1:05:32

It was so great that I had to

1:05:34

just sit there and play it for a

1:05:36

while because it is a good game. And

1:05:38

it's one of those games that sticks with

1:05:40

you kind of like in the golden eye

1:05:43

kind of category of games that was just

1:05:45

groundbreaking and a ton of fun and still

1:05:47

a lot of fun to go back to.

1:05:49

So it's DXXX rebirth of a link in

1:05:51

the show notes to Flat Hub and to

1:05:53

get hub. And then of course, you got

1:05:56

to get the source files. Chris, you are

1:05:58

not alone in this nostalgia. I instantly, as

1:06:00

soon as I brought up the screenshot, just

1:06:02

got taken right back to Sent, was a

1:06:04

game that me and my brothers absolutely loved.

1:06:07

And I guess... My brother must be listening

1:06:09

to the live stream because I just got

1:06:11

a signal message saying oh my god descent

1:06:13

And so I think you might have just

1:06:15

said we have a we have a tradition

1:06:18

here of playing video games for like over

1:06:20

24 hours every Christmas You might have just

1:06:22

decided what we're gonna play well you could

1:06:24

do one and two wouldn't that be fun?

1:06:26

You know and for me I've tried to

1:06:29

play this game on and off to some

1:06:31

degrees of success to have it all work

1:06:33

perfectly and just fit right on my monitor

1:06:35

and sound good. They're even going through the

1:06:37

opening animation again, it just brought back so

1:06:39

many fun memories. And now I'm thinking, you

1:06:42

know, because they've nailed the network play, I

1:06:44

never got to do that, I'm gonna get

1:06:46

it working on the kids' computers. And I'm

1:06:48

doing this. This is one of the things

1:06:50

we're doing. Well, Aaron says live here, he's

1:06:53

into a network play with you. So I

1:06:55

think we got to set someone. Got to

1:06:57

figure out how to do it over tail

1:06:59

scale. Over internet, over space internet. That'll be,

1:07:01

we'll see how that goes. Seems appropriate. Yeah,

1:07:04

right. Okay, before we wrap up, don't forget.

1:07:06

We want to hear your ideas for a

1:07:08

raspberry pie 4 project. Kind of our goodbye

1:07:10

to the raspberry pie 4 as the 5

1:07:12

is out. and I still got a handful

1:07:14

of them, I'd like to put them to

1:07:17

some good use, so I'd love your ideas.

1:07:19

Then then you some time,

1:07:21

your Linux predictions, but not

1:07:23

long. You need to

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boost in the week

1:07:28

this comes out in the

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Linux predictions? your Linux I'd

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love to see. I'd love

1:07:36

mentioned earlier, West uh, we

1:07:39

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1:07:41

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