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Hello friends and welcome

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my name is Brent. Well,

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OS and get into what

0:29

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0:31

than the others. In some

0:33

of these things you'll probably

0:35

see show up in a

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distro near you in the

0:39

future. Then we'll round it all

0:41

out with some great booths, a

0:43

bunch of good picks, and a

0:45

lot more. So before we go

0:48

any further, let's say time-appropriate greetings

0:50

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the show. Let's get

2:29

into this one boys Why Linux

2:32

is not ready for the desktop?

2:34

And this is the final edition

2:36

This has been kind of a

2:38

yearly tradition by the author and

2:40

this is supposedly the last one

2:42

this year Brett kind of bated

2:45

us with this. Yeah Yeah, I

2:47

sure did We've mentioned these once

2:49

or twice before And this year

2:51

the author kind of took a

2:53

new tack They say the previous

2:55

iteration was too technical too long

2:58

contained a lot of controversial points

3:00

so in an effort to save

3:02

end users before they make the

3:04

mistake of accidentally switching to Linux.

3:06

They have rewritten it this year,

3:08

so the non-technical folks can get

3:11

a better sense of how deeply

3:13

flawed Desktop Linux is and prevent

3:15

making a mistake, like switching to

3:17

Linux. That's essentially the sentiment there.

3:19

And we could get to a

3:21

lot of these points, but there's

3:24

one that I think cuts deep,

3:26

and it's probably the one we

3:28

need to talk about the most.

3:30

Because I think it is the

3:32

gotcha centerpiece argument for this blog

3:34

post. We'll link to the entire

3:37

thing on the show notes. But

3:39

here's the key line. Regressions are

3:41

introduced all the time because Linux

3:43

developers spend very little to no

3:45

time checking that their code changes

3:47

don't cause regression or breakages outside

3:50

of the problems they're trying to

3:52

fix or features they're trying to

3:54

implement. In other words, it's thousands

3:56

of people all scratching their own

3:58

itch their own itch. They don't

4:00

know if they're stepping all over

4:03

each other. They're all ship in

4:05

it and then Linux maintainers are

4:07

packed you up and squirting onto

4:09

your file system with no thought

4:11

or care. That's the implication right?

4:13

And that you know maybe you

4:16

could have two different folks pulling

4:18

in two different directions is the

4:20

implication. Well more than two thousands

4:22

of people and also what is

4:24

said here It's baked

4:27

into the cake. It's inherent

4:29

to how Linux is made.

4:31

You can never fix this.

4:33

Ergo, Linux will never be

4:35

a fully functional desktop operating

4:37

system. That's the implicit statement

4:39

here. Or implied statement. I

4:41

was going to say, it's

4:43

not entirely clear to me,

4:45

what does Linux developers encompass?

4:47

Are we talking about like

4:49

the desktops and everything? We're

4:51

talking about the kernel specifically

4:53

for these regressions and for

4:55

this argument. The other thing

4:57

I will just say as an addendum

4:59

which doesn't solve anything or really talk

5:01

to it But to my mind from

5:03

the software development side I would think

5:05

I mean to some extent like the

5:07

amount of hand regression testing one can

5:10

do if that's what they mean here

5:12

is always going to be limited and

5:14

I mean Probably if anything this is

5:16

an argument for like better automated testing.

5:18

So that's the only way you're really

5:20

going to make that work at scale

5:22

at least with something the size of

5:24

learning or complexity Say we focus on

5:26

the desktop for a second and we're

5:28

just kind of you know staying in

5:31

the desktop space How is this not

5:33

true on Windows? Or Mac OS these

5:35

developers are all scratching their own itch

5:37

They're developing applications that could often have

5:39

feature overlap Well I guess at least

5:41

maybe not the application layer but at

5:43

least for the core OS component you

5:45

have Presumably, you know people who can't

5:47

have oversight over cross-cutting concerns and Have

5:49

meetings between different teams in a way

5:51

that is more difficult than open source.

5:54

Yeah for sure and you know there

5:56

is okay So I think that's where

5:58

there is what you just touched on

6:00

is the hint of truth to this

6:02

criticism is we've This is one of

6:04

my go-to examples. Apple shipped an entirely

6:06

new display server in one OS release.

6:08

It's taken us 12 years to migrate

6:10

to Wayland. Apple shift APFS in three

6:12

OS releases, we still are using extended

6:15

four everywhere. There is this kind of

6:17

coordination of, well, we have the metal

6:19

API now, we need to rewrite the

6:21

entire desktop stack to the metal API,

6:23

so desktop team, that's what you're doing

6:25

this summer. Congratulations. And we don't really

6:27

have that in Linux. Look

6:29

where we're at. And I think it

6:31

could argue we clearly haven't needed it.

6:34

And I think what I don't like

6:36

about this argument about regressions are introduced

6:38

all the time because there's all these

6:40

different competing ideas. It's sort of silly.

6:43

It's kind of like it's like it's

6:45

sort of thinking that either people are

6:47

patching each other's code or overriding each

6:49

other's applications memory space. It kind of

6:51

implies that it's this sort of. Everybody's

6:54

just riding to the same heap and

6:56

like you can all get mixed together

6:58

and things can go sideways when in

7:00

reality You know you got a toolkit

7:03

you got APIs like everybody's just kind

7:05

of right into like an API at

7:07

one level or another if you if

7:09

you extract that broadly enough like it's

7:12

there's not like a lot of overlap

7:14

here. It's not a lot of damage

7:16

that's happening if you're using GTK and

7:18

you're using the ex-G portals and you're

7:20

doing this stuff like Where's the overlap

7:23

here? This is sort of a silly

7:25

argument at its core. And the reality

7:27

is that there's probably all kinds of

7:29

regressions that absolutely do get introduced. And

7:32

then, just as a matter of course,

7:34

get fixed over time as well. And

7:36

so, just sort of the history of

7:38

the desktop kind of shows out that

7:41

this hasn't really been a problem. And

7:43

I would argue that the way software

7:45

is actually made. Means is not really

7:47

a big problem. These are not problems

7:49

that we really have. Yeah, you can

7:52

have conflicts at like the dependency level

7:54

for an application like libraries You can

7:56

have API version differences, but you have

7:58

that with every system. I was going

8:01

to say I'm not sure if it

8:03

really matches my experience, which doesn't speak

8:05

for everyone, of course, but just, okay,

8:07

maybe sometimes on like a bleeding edge

8:10

rolling release or if you're doing Katie

8:12

E. Nion, sometimes there are small regression

8:14

or something, tweaks or bugs or changes,

8:16

and then it's changed again a couple

8:18

point releases later, that happens, but I

8:21

don't, you know, if we're retargeting this

8:23

for non-technical folks, I don't really think

8:25

that that's the dominant issue with people

8:27

on the Linux test. We're even a

8:30

big issue. That's a really good point.

8:32

I was going to say, oh yeah,

8:34

I've run into some aggressions on the

8:36

Linux Desktop, but that's because I'm running

8:38

unstable and or tumbleweed for the last,

8:41

you know, a couple of years. And

8:43

those always get fixed very quickly. Right.

8:45

There you're making a conscious choice, right?

8:47

You're like, I value the updates more

8:50

than these regression, occasional regress are costing.

8:52

I also value helping find the regressions

8:54

so that people like my mother who's

8:56

running Desktop Linux doesn't run into them.

8:59

Right. And so she hasn't run into

9:01

good work. Right. She hasn't run into

9:03

all the ones I have. But I

9:05

certainly have run into a couple this

9:07

year. And but that's a conscious choice

9:10

to run things that are super super

9:12

bleeding edge. But that's not the focus

9:14

of this article at all. So here's

9:16

how it kind of gets, I think,

9:19

the takeaway. And this is a comment

9:21

on hacker news that I feel is

9:23

reflective. I'm not picking on anyone. Well,

9:25

somebody on hacker news in the comments

9:28

rights. Linux will quote, never be ready

9:30

for the desktop, end quote, because of

9:32

the problems that this development process causes,

9:34

that we just talked about. Developers of

9:36

software for Linux, not to mention, and

9:39

here's the key one, and I think

9:41

this is the normy takeaway that is

9:43

incredibly wrong, developers of software for Linux,

9:45

not to mention kernel developers themselves, do

9:48

not have the kind of funding that

9:50

Microsoft has to test on a truly

9:52

staggering number of hardware configurations. On the

9:54

opposite of the spectrum, they don't have

9:56

the luxury of supporting a comparatively small

9:59

set of hardware combinations like... Apple has.

10:01

And this is a common norm like,

10:03

well, how could Linux ever compete with

10:05

Microsoft? Microsoft pays people to write drivers.

10:08

Microsoft pays people to do testing. How

10:10

could they ever compete with that? Linux

10:12

doesn't have that kind of money. This

10:14

is a fundamental misunderstanding of how the

10:17

Linux kernel development works. I promise you,

10:19

Linus and Greg are not writing network

10:21

card drivers. Right they are merging code

10:23

that contributors and often contributors from these

10:25

companies merge developers at Intel are writing

10:28

the drivers and they're submitting it to

10:30

the colonel It's not the colonel staff

10:32

that are writing the drivers and so

10:34

the colonel staff It doesn't need to

10:37

be a two billion dollar corporation or

10:39

whatever the number has to be in

10:41

order for them to be able to

10:43

encompass all of the hardware support required

10:46

because the individual hardware providers are writing

10:48

that software And they're doing the bulk

10:50

of that work, and then the kernel

10:52

team has to do the integration and

10:54

some of the testing. But it's like

10:57

it's this apples to oranges comparison that

10:59

you will see. Tech people that are

11:01

kind of up onto stuff, but they

11:03

don't really understand it, kind of fall

11:06

into. And it's one of the takeaways

11:08

from this blog post, is this is

11:10

an unsolvable problem. When you think about

11:12

it, it's actually not a problem. It's

11:14

just not how it works. It just

11:17

works differently in Linux differently in Linux.

11:19

If anything, to me it sounds like

11:21

a better way of orchestrating hardware support

11:23

because those making the hardware actually putting

11:26

the software in to support it. Isn't

11:28

that better? And isn't this kind of

11:30

where your system 76 and your tuxedos

11:32

and your frameworks could possibly one day

11:35

come in? I also wonder at like

11:37

a slightly longer time scale in some

11:39

sense. You know, if you looked at

11:41

this five years ago and today... I

11:44

definitely agree there are many times in

11:47

areas that the Linux Desktop is behind

11:49

or lacking compared to some of the

11:51

commercial options. But oftentimes it feels like

11:54

in many of those we're really just

11:56

behind, like we do get them, we

11:58

just don't have. of them within the

12:01

first two to five years. Actually, I

12:03

don't feel like that's happening less and

12:05

less, because a lot of the things that

12:07

are new now are available on the web.

12:09

True. This was definitely a problem

12:12

more and more so over the years. What

12:14

do you think of this though?

12:16

This idea that, well, the problem

12:18

is hardware access. So one of

12:20

the points that is made in

12:23

here is the Devs can't get

12:25

access to the hardware. Linux kernel

12:27

developers often don't have access to

12:29

all the hardware devices they're working

12:31

on. So changes to one device may

12:33

affect a whole other device, the developer

12:36

didn't get their hands on. I mean,

12:38

I think it is true that more

12:40

common hardware is going to be

12:42

better supported. configuration that some

12:45

entity decides to support in the way that

12:47

you can as easily in a centralized sense.

12:49

But we've also seen it go both ways,

12:51

right? There are times where Linux supports

12:53

hardware better or easier than Windows

12:55

does. Yeah, and I think it's also you could

12:57

reverse this. I find it extremely

12:59

restrictive to be an Apple developer

13:02

because you have to spend a

13:04

thousand dollars out of pocket to

13:06

get any Apple hardware. Then you

13:08

also have to pay money to

13:10

get access to the developer program.

13:12

And then if you want to

13:14

test on say... say, maybe you're

13:16

going to make a mobile app,

13:18

so you've got to test the

13:20

iPad, so you've got to buy

13:22

an iPad, because the simulator simply

13:24

won't do. Same for carplay, if

13:26

you want to support carplay, place,

13:28

now you've got to buy a

13:30

carplay head unit. And so,

13:32

whereas Linux, we'll just install

13:34

in any hardware. And so, you

13:36

know, you could flip around this

13:39

access idea around a little bit,

13:41

right? Like, okay. We have experienced I

13:43

think some of this rings true

13:45

in areas like HDR and

13:47

you know multi-monitor three

13:49

plus complicated monitor configurations

13:51

But at the same time we

13:53

are just talking about impossible

13:56

implications of Windows 11 requiring a

13:58

bunch of hardware stuff that Linux

14:00

is never going to require and you

14:02

will just be able to install Linux

14:04

on those systems where Windows will block

14:07

you out. Brent what did you think about

14:09

this point in here about it's only good

14:11

for a web client? Yeah the article

14:13

starts off saying well Linux can

14:15

work Linux can actually work for

14:18

your use case especially if that

14:20

use case focuses on using your

14:22

computer as a web client. Yeah,

14:25

as long as you don't need

14:27

anything more than that. You don't

14:29

need more than Firefox or Chrome,

14:32

you're fine. Yeah, which is

14:34

like the absolute most basic

14:36

bar that we can possibly

14:38

hit. But geez, that feels

14:40

like someone who has not

14:42

used it, maybe? I don't know.

14:44

Look at the things we're doing with. We're

14:47

doing the audio production and like all

14:49

sorts of crazy things. I know that's

14:51

not who the article is targeting, right?

14:54

It's the mythical new user that

14:56

is always nebulous, yeah. But there is

14:58

a little bit of truth to this

15:00

in saying that someone who only uses

15:02

the web will certainly have a good

15:04

experience. That is true. I think is

15:06

true for most of the popular distributions.

15:08

I think it's probably true for most

15:10

internet connected operating systems in general. You

15:12

could use Haiku if you mostly need

15:14

a web browser. That's actually a really

15:17

good point. It's not super high praise.

15:19

No. And then it's like, you know,

15:21

then we have solutions like so in

15:23

the past. This article has been updated

15:25

for years. This is supposedly the final

15:27

version and software distribution and dependency resolution

15:29

has been a, you know, a pain

15:31

point for this article in the past.

15:33

Now that we have flat packs. Here's

15:36

the take on flat packs. Quote,

15:38

it's crazy to think that they

15:40

solve software and compatibility in Linux.

15:42

They just work around it by

15:45

making the user allocate and

15:47

run gobs of binary code,

15:49

unnecessarily taxing their storage, CPU,

15:52

and RAM. Whose RAM and storage

15:54

has been unnecessarily taxed? What?

15:56

What? I mean, okay. Does it have to

15:58

have some run time? Yeah, yeah, so does Java.

16:00

I think the argument here is, well,

16:03

you're running a bunch of virtual machines,

16:05

wouldn't it be better to run on bare

16:07

metal? Well, they're not virtual. They're

16:09

just, they're more akin to containers,

16:11

right? They're, they're, they're isolated applications.

16:13

Yes, like, you have to pull

16:15

down like, if it's a, they're

16:17

more akin to containers, right? They're,

16:19

they're, they're isolated applications. Yes, like,

16:21

like, like, you have to know

16:23

different than how Docker, like, like,

16:25

like, like, like, like, And I think it's

16:27

a perfect, reasonable solution to software

16:29

distribution. And it's like just one of

16:32

these things where, well, they solved it,

16:34

but it's not good enough. When I

16:36

was reading this, I also thought about

16:38

the transition that MacOS did between architectures.

16:40

This is exactly how they solved this problem.

16:43

That's true. Yeah, they would have an image

16:45

with both the X86 version and the arm

16:47

version in there. Well, you know, it takes

16:49

up too much storage space. Blacktops got

16:51

512 gigs basic now. Give me. Give me a

16:53

give me a break. So I just that stuff

16:55

doesn't really stick for me. But I do think

16:57

what I do think the article does is

16:59

it forces Linux advocates to be like

17:02

yeah okay there's there are rough points

17:04

you know there are which I don't think we're

17:06

too bad at but I do think sometimes

17:08

as a whole we as a community we

17:10

really focus on the positive and good things

17:13

because there's so much happening especially when you

17:15

when you have a little bit of perspective

17:17

on it and so we'll focus on that

17:19

and we might not mention that you know.

17:21

Yeah, by the way, when you go

17:23

to download something off the website, that

17:25

EXE isn't going to run. You know,

17:27

these things are complicated. You'll have to

17:29

go get a flat pack. I'm sorry. That's

17:32

fair. It helps us remember that. Something

17:34

else stood out to me was, the

17:36

author provided a tiny bit of

17:38

proof or at least trying to,

17:40

so in a particular section called

17:43

accidental Linux Security, which is pretty

17:45

hilarious to me, but in that

17:47

section they said, hey, I actually

17:50

had a conversation. with Chatjipity about

17:52

this particular section and asked it

17:54

to verify the validity of my

17:57

text. And so they pull out

17:59

a quote. saying that, oh, the

18:01

verdict is that, quote, ultimately the

18:03

issues raised are genuine but not

18:06

insurmountable. But I visited that chat

18:08

link, since they so kindly provided

18:10

it. And they forgot to

18:12

quote the part where, you

18:14

know, even chat jippity says,

18:16

hey, the text contains some

18:18

valid points, but is also

18:20

heavily opinionated, contains overgeneralizations, and

18:22

lacks nuance in addressing the

18:24

broader security model of Linux.

18:26

Roasted! Yeah, and roasted again

18:28

here as it continues on,

18:30

saying the text raises valid

18:32

concerns about specific user behaviors

18:34

and usability challenges in Linux,

18:36

but many of its arguments

18:38

lack depth and fail to consider

18:40

the systemic security advantage

18:43

of Linux. So they just like kind

18:45

of plucked the parts that they wanted

18:47

to fit the title of the article

18:49

and forgot to look at the other

18:51

parts that were countering the arguments. So

18:53

I'm a little disappointed by that. I was

18:55

kind of struck that to some

18:58

extent, I touched on it earlier, but

19:00

there's like a mismatch. It kind of

19:02

feels like there are a lot of

19:04

valid things, but they're not

19:06

necessarily the top of what my

19:08

list is, either for myself or

19:11

for like supporting my mom

19:13

using clinic. In which both cases

19:15

I think it works fairly well,

19:17

at least as well as Windows

19:19

or Mac has, if not definitely

19:21

better. Yeah, over the long term I'd

19:23

say better. There were at least several

19:26

items I thought that systems like

19:28

UBlue or others have improved

19:30

kind of remarkably, you know,

19:32

like directly address some of these concerns.

19:34

There's one example come to mind because

19:36

I do, I kind of had that

19:39

sensation too when I read it. Now

19:41

I can't think of an example, but

19:43

I do remember thinking, dude, some

19:45

of this is already solved. But I mean,

19:48

I think a lot of just, you

19:50

know, the integration level things,

19:52

reliability, reliability, yeah.

19:54

hardware support planned for? Yeah.

19:56

Yeah, it's, um, maybe it's good that

19:59

the things come to an end, we'll

20:01

link to it if you do want

20:03

to read it. I like it in

20:05

the sense of a challenge of some

20:07

of our assumptions, but then- Oh,

20:09

secure boot. Secure boot was

20:11

one item there. Okay. Yeah. Good

20:14

fine there on the Chatjipity link

20:16

there, Brent. Yeah, it's funny to

20:18

see Chatjipity call out. Well, it's

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20:25

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us know if you were going to write up

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it be? You know, I think if

20:39

anybody is poised to criticize Linux, it

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could probably be used in your roast.

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22:57

overview here with how are we

22:59

saying this? I think I'm saying

23:01

it Ketchy-O-S, but Chris you have

23:04

a different pronunciation. Oh, I think

23:06

it's got to be it's got

23:08

to be Koddy-O-S. Maybe it's Ketchy.

23:10

Cashy! Come on! It's cashy! It's

23:12

fast! Yeah, it's cashy. So cashy

23:14

OS is considered a blazingly fast

23:16

OS based on the Arch Linux

23:18

distro designed to deliver lightning fast

23:21

speeds and stability entering a smooth

23:23

and enjoyable computing experience every time

23:25

you use it. Whether you're a

23:27

season Linux user or just starting

23:29

out cashy, I might have said

23:31

it wrong. Cashy OS is the

23:33

ideal choice for those looking for,

23:35

quote, powerful, customisable, blazing fast

23:37

operating system. Hmm. Now, does this

23:39

in a few different sneaky ways

23:42

that we've explored recently? This is

23:44

actually kind of what turned me on

23:46

to this distribution, is we went down

23:48

the path of, you know, tweaking our kernels

23:51

a little bit, and then the audience said,

23:53

hey guys, you might check out KashiOS because

23:55

they're doing some of the same stuff by

23:57

default, like using the Zen4 kernel and... there

24:00

and bolt enhancements. In fact, I'll talk

24:02

a little bit about some of the

24:04

scheduler stuff they're doing as

24:06

well and other optimizations throughout the

24:09

stack. And I'm always keen to

24:11

try something that's kind of turned up

24:13

to 11. You know, it's always fun

24:15

to play with arch. And then something

24:17

that goes, let's turn this knob, let's

24:20

turn this knob and really optimize for

24:22

a great desktop responsive experience. I think

24:24

that would be my number one TLD

24:26

R here is it is like a

24:28

playground for. you know, a long time when

24:30

it starts. There's stuff in

24:32

here that I think will land

24:35

in other distributions in the future.

24:37

So there has been recent improvements

24:40

to the tweakability of

24:42

the Linux scheduler. And you

24:44

can actually now kind of

24:46

hot swap your scheduler from

24:48

UserSpace using EVPF. That's so

24:50

crazy. It's crazy stuff. And the

24:52

schedulers was responsible for a

24:55

sort of prioritizing system performance,

24:57

like disk I.O. reads and

24:59

responsiveness of your desktop application

25:01

network activity. The scheduler is

25:03

kind of like, you know, the traffic

25:05

cop for your system. And so

25:08

some schedulers are just sort of

25:10

your basic traffic cop that isn't

25:12

really prioritizing any particular type of

25:14

workload. And other schedulers are optimized

25:16

for desktop, things like that. And

25:18

one of the things that Kashi

25:20

offers is this graphical interface

25:22

to access this new tooling. It's

25:24

only been around for a little bit.

25:27

And you can just swap out

25:29

your scheduler options. You can change

25:31

your options right there in like

25:33

within about three clicks. You can

25:35

get to it from the welcome

25:38

screen. I mean, you go right

25:40

from welcome screen to like setting

25:42

your scheduler options within about three

25:44

clicks. So you can see yeah, yeah,

25:47

I mean that stuff's a lot of fun West I

25:49

had you know you and I were We're still running

25:51

the Zen kernels on our Nick system. Indeed

25:53

So this had to have been up your

25:55

alley. Uh-huh. I was already kind of on

25:57

my radar before some of the audience started

26:00

I've been up about it too, so I

26:02

mean perfect sense for us to try it. Okay,

26:04

right out of the gate, installer, I

26:06

tried just the graphical calmaris, I believe

26:08

there's another kind out there, although I

26:10

did not try it, but you have tons

26:13

of desktop options, including cosmic, I

26:15

tried cosmic and Ghanom and plasma,

26:17

which I think is their default.

26:19

Hyperland, I was pleased. Yeah, Hyperland,

26:21

right. You're also prompted right out

26:24

of the gate with what kind

26:26

of bootloader you want? which I

26:28

thought was kind of nice, and you

26:30

got Grub, System D boot, and Refind,

26:32

as well as an AI, SDK, slash Refind,

26:34

which I had to go look what that

26:37

was. And I guess it's basically,

26:39

this installation automatically installs

26:41

all required packages required

26:43

to have a local

26:45

AI installation. Request from

26:47

AI enthusiasts, I guess it

26:49

sets up like Kuta and Invidia stuff

26:51

for you, out of the gate.

26:53

I'm surprised you're not mentioning too, ButterFS

26:56

by default. Well, I was going to get

26:58

there. Yeah, I mean, this is just the

27:00

theme is a lot of flexibility in the

27:03

installation options, ButterFS by default, and B

27:05

cacheFS as an option for your root

27:07

file system. Yep. Did you do that? Yes,

27:09

actually. Of course, I tried BetterFS first

27:11

and then in my second install I

27:13

went with B cacheFS. Wasn't that one

27:16

of your predictions? Well, no, see, it

27:18

wants not default. So it's close. We'll

27:20

see, maybe if it loses experimental status.

27:22

Yeah. So you have not too far.

27:25

Anybody's going to do it, it's probably

27:27

cacheyOS. I'll tell you enough. As Chris

27:29

was talking about, there's a bunch

27:31

of performance optimization. They also have,

27:34

you know, like they compile things

27:36

for more modern target architectures,

27:39

like XA64, V3, and V4. They

27:41

do link time optimization. They also include

27:43

like a bunch of other customizations

27:45

to their kernel. Auto detection of

27:48

CBU architecture, cherry-picked clear Linux

27:50

packages, memory management tweaks pulled

27:52

over from Zen. They do

27:54

in fact actually offer it as an option

27:56

you can get it. There's a flake for

27:59

it for Nick. So if you don't

28:01

want to run cachey, but you

28:03

want their kernel, apparently that's an

28:05

option, we might have to try.

28:07

They even have some support to

28:09

make the RT kernel work with

28:11

the bore scheduler, which is one

28:13

of their cool scheduler. Yeah, the

28:15

burst-oriented response enhancer scheduler. Yeah, it's

28:17

an enhanced version of the completely

28:19

fair scheduler and the earliest eligible

28:21

virtual deadline first scheduler. Okay. Yeah,

28:23

so they, it has this burstiness

28:25

metric. I do like that. Yeah,

28:27

that kind of helps it perform

28:29

a little bit better. Then as

28:31

you mentioned, there's tweaks available right

28:33

from the get-go. Things like adding

28:35

Z-ram, specific tweaks or invidious stuff

28:37

for journal D and system CTL.

28:40

But there's also just kind of

28:42

nice extra tooling there. I mean,

28:44

it helps you enable system D,

28:46

OMD if you want. There's other

28:48

things that... I haven't tried before

28:50

like a utility from Oracle called

28:52

BPF2. Oh yeah, okay. It aims

28:54

to provide lightweight always on auto

28:56

tuning of system behavior. The idea

28:58

is, BPF gives us great observability

29:00

features so they continuously monitor and

29:02

adjust your system and because it's

29:04

so fine grain, the tuning can

29:06

happen at a fine grain too.

29:08

So like individual socket policies, individual

29:10

device policies, which is just interesting

29:12

because Oracle also kind of just

29:14

finished. making the latest version of

29:16

d-trays basically be you know d-trays

29:18

on top of you be f.

29:20

Yeah that's what came to mind.

29:22

I was also pleased to see

29:24

that they are moving fast. 13th

29:26

release this year was the one

29:29

I downloaded. Yes yeah they have

29:31

auto FBO they've got they've been

29:33

doing stuff in Mesa to enable

29:35

rustical they've got as you were

29:37

talking about Skage EX EXE supports

29:39

they have ExCX loader loader built

29:41

in. There's also now gaming and

29:43

a gaming and handheld handheld tweaks

29:45

tweaks tweaks tweaks. There's like automatic

29:47

setups for steam deck. They are

29:49

using the LAVD scheduler, which was

29:51

funded by Valve and improves the

29:53

frame time. They also test it

29:55

on the ROG ally, Lenovo Legion,

29:57

MSI Claw. They clearly care about

29:59

it. Overall, I think

30:01

it is clearly put together by people

30:03

paying attention and who like using Linux

30:06

on the desktop and want that experience

30:08

to be great. So, like, even if

30:10

I don't switch to this, there's a

30:12

lot of stuff that is inspiring and

30:14

that I want to steal for my

30:16

desktop. Also, if a family member can

30:18

do, you say, hey, I want a

30:20

Linux box that can do basic Linux

30:22

stuff, and I'm probably going to do

30:24

a lot of gaming. This could be

30:26

a serious contender here. system management thing.

30:29

So you can enable profile sync theme,

30:31

and that's another one, but system update,

30:33

reinstall all packages, refresh key rings, remove

30:35

DB lot, clear package calf, speed mirror

30:37

check. Yep. These are all kind of

30:39

things that, you know, if you're a

30:41

regular art user, you would be encouraged

30:43

to do just on the command line,

30:45

which is totally fine, but you can

30:47

get a lot of the power in

30:50

a very simple and easy interface. It's

30:52

a very curated distribution as well. The

30:54

only tweak I would make at that

30:56

screen is I would love to see

30:58

in the description the version. Hmm, like,

31:00

you know, because if it was like

31:02

the absolute latest version of XFC, I

31:04

might have just gone that route. But

31:06

I wasn't sure. But they have all

31:08

of them, like whatever you want, it's

31:10

got it. I was pretty neat to

31:13

see. And then after you've chosen that

31:15

desktop, it takes you to an additional

31:17

packages screen. And then like so... If

31:19

you want to install Thunar or something,

31:21

individually, you absolutely could or one of

31:23

their meta packages. I tried plasma, of

31:25

course, and I had plasma 625 installed.

31:27

They used the nice, clean breeze theme

31:29

by default, but they do have a

31:31

cache-o-S-Nord theme pre-installed if you want, which

31:34

is kind of nice. I kind of

31:36

like it. And the Hello Wizard we

31:38

mentioned really just sets you up. It

31:40

kind of gives you a scope of

31:42

what they're tuning lets you do. and

31:44

cashieros and I love to see this

31:46

in some of these distributions where they

31:48

try this really easy. access to video

31:50

drivers and things like that. Our new

31:52

favorite app, ButterFS Assistant, is also pre-

31:54

installed. Oh, great. Yeah. And it makes

31:57

it really easy to just get access

31:59

to popular apps because they have one

32:01

app that just like, here's a bunch

32:03

of popular stuff. And so Discord, Telegram,

32:05

Element, Slack, all that stuff, I imagine

32:07

it's probably mostly a flat hub front

32:09

end that installs. But what you're left

32:11

with, and I tried this in a

32:13

V.M. And this is not a V.M.

32:15

Desktop. I was able to get plasma

32:18

working, but it's just, you're not going

32:20

to, you're going to get the best

32:22

experience on hardware. It does virtualize just

32:24

fine though, well plasma at least. Yeah,

32:26

plasma worked well for me, cosmic worked

32:28

well for me. But it's interesting when

32:30

you put it on physical hardware, you

32:32

do kind of get a sense like

32:34

you're eking a bit more out of

32:36

the system. I'm curious, I imagine you

32:38

probably can exact there on the old

32:41

think pad. Did you notice, did you

32:43

notice, because, because... For me, the system

32:45

I did on just the fan state's

32:47

always pretty steady. Did you notice any

32:49

difference in temperatures and stuff like that?

32:51

No, not directly, but I am already

32:53

using ZA to A. So it probably

32:55

has at least some of the same

32:57

optimizations. No, it ran really nicely on

32:59

the hardware though. The people that are

33:01

putting this distribution together are really following

33:04

the cutting edge of the cutting edge

33:06

of performance development and Desktop enhancement. Like

33:08

they are... This has got to be

33:10

like a... a think tank of the

33:12

folks that are sort of the most

33:14

current on the stuff that you can

33:16

put together and make a screaming desktop

33:18

package. And that's really where I think

33:20

CashioS really shines is the expertise of

33:22

this group that understand these things and

33:25

the combination of things and then give

33:27

you options that are not even more

33:29

stuff, it's impressive. And there's not a

33:31

lot of distributions that are focused on

33:33

this particular thing. There's some, but not

33:35

a lot of them. And none of

33:37

the mainstream distributions. And these guys, I

33:39

think they could sell their talents as

33:41

a consulting as a consulting as a

33:43

consulting as a consulting group. As a

33:45

consulting group. As a consulting group. because

33:48

they're really focused on the right stuff.

33:50

You know, Chris, when I was going

33:52

through all the features, and we were

33:54

just talking about many of the tweaks

33:56

they're doing, it reminded me a lot

33:58

of the sensation I got when I

34:00

first read through all of the technical...

34:02

Prowes that Grafino-S is doing, especially in

34:04

how they're taking some really fancy security

34:06

modern features and adding it to even

34:09

Google's own hardware. And reading through this

34:11

list of features reminded me a lot

34:13

of that and it feels like sort

34:15

of the same type of people with

34:17

the same type of passion for the

34:19

goal of the project who are clearly

34:21

deep experts on... on what they're implementing

34:23

and it's a breath of fresh air.

34:25

The Graphing OS comparison is an interesting

34:27

one. Yeah, it's a good example of

34:29

another group of people that really seem

34:32

to know their stuff, that have put

34:34

it together and they've made a package

34:36

for the rest of us. And you

34:38

know, we've been following some of these

34:40

things, but they've been thinking about it

34:42

a lot longer and a lot deeper

34:44

than we have. So you kind of

34:46

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34:48

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and indeed hurricane nerds is

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our baller booster this week.

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They came in with two

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hundred and thirty four thousand

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35:46

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for everything you did in 2024

35:55

Also, please consider this boost as

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my vote for setting Neovim as

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not them Neovim You have any

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36:09

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D, whatever, PD and... Well, pulling

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36:22

we'll check out, thank you. Yes,

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thank you very much for that.

36:27

Awesome, look out. I think this

36:29

makes hurricane at the very top

36:31

of the list for the boosties

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so far in 2025, yes? You're

36:36

right. First baller, yes. Baller of

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the year, top booster of the

36:40

year so far. Price is on.

36:43

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36:45

nice to hear from you and

36:47

I hope to hear from you

36:50

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fountain if you're migrating off of

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Alby or something like that. We

36:56

loved here for you. Or

36:59

is that like a super-space ball? I

37:01

was wondering about that. I'll, you know

37:04

what, here we go. Smoke if you

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got them. There you go. Happy New

37:08

Year, thanks for all the great show.

37:10

Thank you, Mr. Stone. Nice to hear

37:13

from you. Thank you very much. Well,

37:15

the Linux Teamster boosted in 45,546 total

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Sats across three boosts three boosts. I

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hold that with your kind. Well, I'll

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Nice. Yeah. I like that a lot.

37:44

Second boost here, 24,409. In addition to

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the tuxes at the end of the

37:49

end of the year. Have you considered

37:51

doing a usage survey? Or perhaps alternatively

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in these days. It could be nice

37:55

in about June or July as an

37:58

episode. of picking who had a good

38:00

year and what is your favorite, the

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usage survey would ideally be multiple choice

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and listeners would select all of the

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generate ideas for the taxis later on.

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Love you all. I like the idea

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don't know why but the phrase of

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my head is Jupiter Picks garage sale.

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Alby, I'll remind you too that you

38:58

can send your sets. I mean, we're

39:00

happy to take them, but you can

39:03

send them to Breeze or Fountain-F-M as

39:05

well. Because also, oh, thank you for

39:07

the boost though, Linux Teamster, and I

39:09

hope we keep hearing from you. Congo

39:12

Paradox, that's how you say it, came

39:14

in with 32,300 and 32 sets. Do

39:16

you guys know when the Alby wallet

39:18

will stop working? Completely forgot to set

39:21

up Alby hub before leaving for a

39:23

week-long holiday. Okay, well don't worry, don't

39:25

worry, your stats aren't going anywhere, but

39:27

you'll have to probably contact support. So

39:30

they're shutting down the hosted version of

39:32

Alby and they now have a self-hosted

39:34

version, that's Alby hub. Although lightning is

39:36

just an open standard, Alby was kind

39:39

of the most convenient, that's why it's

39:41

sort of on the register on the

39:43

register here. I would encourage you to

39:45

look at something like Breeze or Fountain

39:48

because they manage a lot of the

39:50

infrastructure problems for you. Breeze is a

39:52

self hosted lightning note in your pocket.

39:54

Fountain does all of the plumbing and

39:57

it's not self hosted at all. And

39:59

once you... have them set up, they're

40:01

pretty easy to use. This is I also

40:03

recently bought a refurbished M2 Air Mini

40:05

with 24 gigs of RAM. First thing

40:07

I did after boot it up was

40:09

install the Sahi Linux, Knicks-O-S style. Well

40:11

done. I used it as my primary workstation

40:13

for my home lab, stuck on Windows

40:16

for work. And with the display doc,

40:18

multiple monitors now, it works great on

40:20

unstable. So I had a really interesting

40:22

a Sahi Linux experience over

40:24

the weekend, and I appreciate you

40:26

Congerue for... Remining me. It's

40:28

been really solid. I have the Fadora

40:31

version. That's kind of like their main

40:33

focus. And I've been on Fadora 41

40:35

for a minute or two now. And

40:37

I just decided to do some routine

40:39

updates. And I did the standard, you

40:42

know, D&F update. And rebooted and

40:44

got a carnal panic. It's the

40:46

first time I've ever had a carnal

40:48

panic on Asahi Linux. And it

40:50

was during boot. Oh. Geez. At least you

40:53

didn't have time to open your work yet.

40:55

Yeah. So I did a, you know, hard

40:57

power off. Did the old hard power

40:59

on. Selected Asahi Linux again

41:01

and it booted just fine. So

41:03

problem solved I guess, right? Keep

41:06

that camp going though. Check back in

41:08

with us. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.

41:10

Good to hear from you. Congeroo.

41:12

Paradox. Thank you for the boost.

41:14

producer Jeff Boosin with 28,686 ads.

41:17

Because I'm the win! Oh, looks

41:19

like we got a couple binary

41:21

sets here. Oh, I see what

41:24

he's doing. Yeah. I hate building

41:26

PCs. Fairwell Tuxes,

41:28

you will be missed. Thanks.

41:30

Jeff also says, boost! I

41:32

agree with that. Boost! And

41:34

then, has anyone clicked the

41:37

donate pop-up in plasma 6

41:39

yet? They've made it very

41:41

easy to support them. My

41:43

prediction is that Katie will continue

41:45

to see substantial support from this

41:47

and more so as the LTS distros

41:50

finally. Like this prediction. Also nice

41:52

remember. Go donate to your favorite desktop.

41:54

Yeah, but I bet plasma does see a

41:56

good little uptick. I think that's a good

41:58

prediction. Should have thought. of that, should

42:00

have thought of that. I have not

42:02

gotten the prompt yet, does it need

42:04

to be a clean install? Why have I

42:07

not gotten the prompt? I think

42:09

because every Plasmidest up I'm on,

42:11

I've had before they've added this.

42:13

And I'm wondering if, maybe, now I

42:15

think maybe it's like one year after

42:17

the update I get it. New installs

42:19

and one year after? I'm not quite

42:22

sure if I remember the details on

42:24

it, but have you guys gotten it?

42:26

No. Right, have you seen the pop-up?

42:29

I have not, but I imagine

42:31

there's a command you can

42:33

run to get it. You're

42:36

probably right. Maybe. Boost in.

42:38

System D Donate, right. Thank

42:41

you. Nice. Thank you, PJ.

42:43

Well, we have Boost

42:45

here from Droopy Draco

42:48

with a great username,

42:50

6,700 Sats, across two

42:53

boosts. Oh. I do. You're

42:55

a boost! That's a jar,

42:57

jar boost. Offloading while changing

43:00

wallets. Can't think of a

43:02

better place to store these

43:04

little sets than with JB.

43:06

Aw, thank you. That's a good

43:09

guy. He's a good guy. He's a

43:11

real good guy. No, he's a real

43:13

good guy. No, he's a real good

43:15

guy. No, he's a real good guy.

43:17

No, he's a real good guy. No,

43:20

he's a real good guy. No, he's

43:22

a real good guy. I like it.

43:24

Thank you for the boost. Planet Ace

43:26

comes in with 8055 sets. I used

43:28

to sometimes use distros like Zaronos, which

43:31

can be based on an LTS release.

43:33

And then I'd be running an old

43:35

kernel at the time. Like you guys

43:38

though, I'd like to have the latest

43:40

or near to the latest at the

43:42

time. So I went for the Lickerix

43:44

kernel or the X mod kernel. Sometimes

43:47

I just, sometimes it's just a curl

43:49

command away. Zanmod is more aimed at

43:51

gamers, but seems to work okay for

43:53

me, and sometimes more performance means a

43:56

little less battery life. There's a tradeoff.

43:58

Security-minded people will need to... the vendors

44:00

of course due to the nature of

44:02

what is being installed. I hope everyone

44:04

had a Merry Christmas and best of

44:06

luck to 2025 regards ACE. Thanks ACE,

44:08

that's a great message and I agree,

44:10

you know, you definitely want to be

44:12

mindful that when you're installing some

44:14

of these super tweaked out, you know, everything

44:16

turned up to 11 distributions which

44:19

we love that does mean there's more hands

44:21

touching this code, just something to be aware

44:23

of. I don't have any reason not to

44:25

trust these people, but I think ACE gives

44:27

us a good reminder. User 88 or

44:30

who I like to call IG 88

44:32

loose in with 15,000 cents. Boy, they

44:34

are doing a lot with Mayo these

44:36

days. Okay, music report. I've

44:38

replaced VI music with outer

44:40

tune primarily and Spotube for

44:43

those Spotify. Hmm, all right,

44:45

outer tune, huh? Yeah, looks like

44:47

it's a material three music player

44:49

with YouTube music support for Android

44:51

from inner tune. God, this is

44:53

so great. might pull me back

44:55

a little bit to YouTube Music

44:57

unfortunately, but it's essentially it's an

44:59

alternative to the YouTube Music app.

45:01

Yeah, in Cotton looks pretty nice.

45:03

Yeah, wow, okay. I had not

45:05

seen that and that is sweet.

45:07

We'll have a link to this

45:09

in the show notes. The other

45:11

one he recommends here, Spot Tube,

45:13

an open source cross platform Spotify

45:15

client compatible across multiple platforms utilizing

45:17

Spotify's data API and YouTube. Oh, this

45:19

one's in Dart. All right, it's a

45:22

it's another desktop you I that also

45:24

works on the phone like look at

45:26

this BSD 4 let's check outer tune

45:28

We're doing more life. We are

45:30

trying to be better about that

45:32

GPL V3 So we got two open

45:35

source ones here. Thank you very

45:37

much. That's those are two totally

45:39

new ones to us 88 appreciate

45:41

that Oh, also 88 says hopefully this

45:44

worked. I used a river to fill

45:46

up fountain that I linked with my

45:48

Noster account Oh Well done. And the

45:51

nice thing about river is they support

45:53

lightning right out of the gate. You

45:55

know what I mean? On chain, what?

45:58

Yeah. On chain is for plebs. Odyssey

46:00

Westresen with 5,100 sets. Never tell me the

46:02

odds. And he writes, this is a test

46:04

boost through Fountain FM's live chat. And yeah,

46:06

by the way, I agree, using boost and

46:08

zaps will be a great way to meter

46:10

the gauge for the future taxi suggestions. Maybe

46:12

boost is suggest a new topic and zaps

46:14

will be a great way to meter the gauge

46:17

for the future taxi suggestions. Maybe boost is

46:19

suggest a new topic and zaps. Yes, I

46:21

think it's totally possible for us working

46:23

backwards to bridge those chats to bridge those

46:25

chats, because the live chat is just essentially

46:28

a Jason Bob. It's really easy to get

46:30

to. We will see. As far as the tuxies

46:32

go, a lot of decisions to be

46:34

made. We have some things we're considering.

46:36

And then also we're waiting to gauge

46:38

everybody's interest. Just kind of still collecting

46:41

that feedback. Thank you, though. Odyssey. It's

46:43

always good to hear from you. Hope you're

46:45

doing good. Whomever whiz booths in

46:47

with 11,001 Sats, which I think

46:49

is a binary boost and also

46:51

links us to a tiny CC

46:53

link that says binary solo and

46:55

has a flag in it. Because

46:57

I'm the win! All right, let's

47:00

give this binary flag a play.

47:02

You ready for it? Oh, there's

47:04

a few in here. All right, I'll just

47:06

pick the first one. See how we like

47:08

it. You want to try it out, boys?

47:10

Yeah. Binary solo. Okay, all right. All right.

47:12

We got a couple though. Let's try the

47:14

last one. Let's see. Let's see. This one's

47:16

one second long. I like the length. Do

47:18

what do, what, do what, do what, do

47:20

what, do what, mam, mam. That's pretty fun.

47:22

That's not bad. I'm going to give that

47:24

one the old download. Well, now I want

47:26

to know what the other ones. Yeah, okay,

47:28

we'll do one more. Let's do, let's do

47:30

with the second from the second from the

47:32

last here. This one's also one second. Good

47:35

lengths! Nailing the lengths here. Zero, zero,

47:37

zero, zero, one, one. That can be

47:39

good if there's multiple binary booths, I

47:41

suppose. Thank you, whomever. I know it

47:43

took a little bit of work to

47:45

get that to us. I appreciate

47:48

that very much. Well, Otterbrain came

47:50

in with 2000 SAT, simply to

47:52

say, happy holidays to you, Otterbrain,

47:54

and everyone out there. Kicking off

47:56

2025 with the bank here at the

47:58

unplug program a lot. up. Thank you

48:01

for the support. I'm gonna say

48:03

Leché Mint. Leché Mint. No, I'm

48:05

gonna say Ice Element. What? What,

48:07

what, Brant? Give it to me.

48:09

Oh, it's French, so I think

48:11

it's Le Clemont. Yeah, of course,

48:13

it's French. Of course, okay, Le

48:15

Clemont comes in with... Thank you.

48:17

Twelve thousand, two hundred and forty-seven

48:19

sets, which I don't know if

48:21

there's any meaning. But I like

48:23

it's first boost ever. Congratulations, well

48:25

done. Now I'm glad we pronounced

48:27

the name right. I got Albi,

48:30

I tried founder, and I'm on

48:32

podverse. What a world it is

48:34

out there. Continue the great work.

48:36

This, by the way, is a

48:38

postal code in Germany. Yes, Zip

48:40

Code is a better deal. Uh-oh,

48:42

West Payne. Yeah, the old map,

48:44

it's kind of crusty. I haven't

48:46

used it in a while. This

48:48

is, look at the, you got

48:50

a little map music now, West.

48:52

Okay, all right, we have one

48:54

two two four seven. I got

48:56

to get out the European Sub

48:58

portion of the map obviously literally

49:01

dancing right now in the studio

49:03

Okay, I think I've got it.

49:05

All right Let's see Okay, I

49:07

believe it is in the state

49:09

of Berlin is what this says

49:11

Community Christ Freisstadt It sounds totally

49:13

accurate. I got the latitude and

49:15

longitude if that helps. 52.5 by

49:17

13.4. That's great. Lankwits? I'm going

49:19

to say yes. Primarily associated with

49:21

the neighborhood of Lankwits is what

49:23

my map assistant is telling me.

49:25

Map assistants? I've got some other

49:27

things. Wow. Southern part of Berlin.

49:29

There goes the budget. There goes

49:32

the budget. Oh yeah, I used

49:34

your credit card. Sorry. It was

49:36

already pre-filled. Thank you. Thank you

49:38

for taking the time to set

49:40

up that boost workflow. We do

49:42

really appreciate it. Nice work. Thank

49:44

you very much. Gene Bean booths

49:46

in with 5,780. one set, which

49:48

includes... Stop it. Get some help.

49:50

Never mind, that's too good. We'll

49:52

ignore the ducks. Thank you, Genea.

49:54

Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead,

49:56

give you the ducks, too. There's

49:58

a late and some ducks. Okay,

50:01

there you go. We love Genzo,

50:03

just you know. Oh, this is

50:05

an older one, but asking what

50:07

I use to stream flax and

50:09

stuff. Jellyfinam has been one that

50:11

I have used and probably will

50:13

use again. VLC over a samba

50:15

before too. Okay, a gene also

50:17

says that, uh, genes vetoing the

50:19

gene stream nickname Fair Brent. Oh,

50:21

come on. Sorry Brent, I'll try

50:23

again. I got to send more

50:25

sets. And after sweeping three out

50:27

of the four categories in the

50:29

boosties, it seems only fitting to

50:32

boost in and say how much

50:34

I appreciate the work you all

50:36

do. I look forward to getting

50:38

my lup, self-hosted, and wib fix

50:40

every week. and binging when I

50:42

fall behind. Merry Christmas and happy

50:44

new year to the entire crew.

50:46

Oh, same to you, Jerry. Yes,

50:48

thank you. You know, we've had

50:50

the privilege of actually meeting Gene,

50:52

and he is just as nice

50:54

in person as he sounds in

50:56

his boost too. And I know

50:58

Gene put in a bunch of

51:01

work to get Helpi Hub and

51:03

all that going too. So we

51:05

appreciate that and your continued support.

51:07

Definitely. Nice to hear from you.

51:09

Well, Tuxes forever. Okay, that's a

51:11

vote for the taxis, right? Is

51:13

that our first one? At least

51:15

Bush vote, yeah. Yeah, right. Okay,

51:17

all right, thank you. Appreciate that.

51:19

Always like an Aflac boost. VH.H.

51:21

H. 32 is back with 2,500

51:23

SADs. This is the way. I

51:25

personally think that 2024 has been

51:27

a great year, at least in

51:29

my point of view, for Linux

51:32

and open source. I'm using Image

51:34

hosted on POPOS and the Cosmic

51:36

Alpha Desktop 4 has been great.

51:38

I've created and released my first

51:40

open source project, split two versions.

51:42

Yeah, congratulations. I've revamped the spin

51:44

button widget for Lib Cosmic, oh

51:46

great, and I've had accepted. Wow!

51:48

That's great. It's even a breaking

51:50

change PR. How about that? I

51:52

made Lib Cosmic, I made a

51:54

Lib Cosmic PR, a bug fix

51:56

in cosmic settings as well. It's

51:58

been a fantastic year for me

52:01

and for Linux and open source.

52:03

That is great. BHS. Getting in

52:05

at the ground floor too, men,

52:07

like. Amen and great to hear.

52:09

Imagine Cosmic being around for another,

52:11

you know, decade plus, and you're

52:13

getting another ground floor right now.

52:15

That's pretty cool. It's great to

52:17

hear from you too. Thank you.

52:19

Bight a bit in, Boosin, with

52:21

the 8,181 cents. Hey, hello, bite.

52:23

I will only boost bites and

52:25

bits. Just pump the brakes right

52:27

there. Fair enough. Fair enough. As

52:29

the glorified booster, you get to

52:32

determine the first amount. That's fair.

52:34

Part of the system. Well, D.

52:36

Drey, Al, boosted in a row

52:38

of ducks. I think I screwed

52:40

that up. Deed Rail. I'm so

52:42

sorry. First, boost. And it's alive.

52:44

All thanks to the Christmas gift

52:46

of Sats. Congratulations. Thank you very

52:48

much. I started my Linux journey

52:50

with Debian in 2004. Try to

52:52

Bunto, but went back to Debian.

52:54

Then moved to Gen2 in 2006.

52:56

That lasted until I got a

52:58

Q-nap in 2020 and got into

53:00

Parker. Right, nice. And for the

53:03

last six months, I've got an

53:05

old Chromebook, a ThinkCenter, M 701

53:07

Leader, as a server and docor

53:09

host, and my OROS, I-9 RTX,

53:11

40-90 laptop, all running Knicks OS,

53:13

Nixos. And well, the laptop dil

53:15

boots, windows for selecting gaming needs.

53:17

That's not bad. Not bad at

53:19

all. That's a pretty good setup.

53:21

I had started listening to Self-Hoses

53:23

last year, and when I got

53:25

cut up this past spring, I

53:27

started listening to the old Linux

53:29

Unplucked episodes, starting with the beginning

53:32

of 2024, and got to the

53:34

latest episode. during the summer. Thanks

53:36

for all the content and have

53:38

a Merry Christmas and I can't

53:40

wait to see what you bring

53:42

next year. Well thanks for listening.

53:44

Absolutely and we are super excited

53:46

about 2025. Not only the first

53:48

half but I already have a

53:50

few things cooking for the latter

53:52

half of 2025 too. I know

53:54

we'll see. You're doing this backwards

53:56

Chris. I know we'll see how

53:58

it goes. You know how it's

54:00

pretty far out. But same to

54:03

you and happy New Year. Bronze

54:05

Wings here with 2,222 Sats. That's

54:07

a row ducks. Big thanks to

54:09

Gene Bean and Hybrid Sarcasm for

54:11

helping me boost after I got

54:13

my alby hub up and running

54:15

on my server. Merry Christmas everybody.

54:17

That's great. That's awesome. Go community.

54:19

Yeah, that's value for value for

54:21

value for value. Yeah, really. And

54:23

it's so awesome once you get

54:25

it running, isn't it? Leaky canoe

54:27

comes in with 12,222 sets. Oh,

54:29

I feel like that should be

54:32

something. Hmm. Yeah, kind of, kind

54:34

of ducky. Yeah, let's, let's give

54:36

it a duck. Let's give it,

54:38

let's give it one. Okay, Chris

54:40

and PJ are either of you

54:42

piping any mesh-tastic stats through MQTT

54:44

into Home Assistant. You got any

54:46

automations? Hmm. I hadn't really put

54:48

these two things together. I... have

54:50

been avoiding using MQTT with home

54:52

assistant. So far for reasons that

54:54

I don't need to get into

54:56

at the moment, but I know

54:58

something like this is going to

55:00

make me break. It would be

55:03

really interesting to have a way

55:05

to capture as Jup's is going

55:07

down the road all of the

55:09

nodes in like a home assistant

55:11

report or something like that or

55:13

over a map. In Matrix, PJ

55:15

says I plan to, but so

55:17

far I've never got at work.

55:19

Okay. Yeah, there's some interesting ideas

55:21

here. I would like to know

55:23

if there's any way, if you,

55:25

okay, now I'm really cooking here.

55:27

If you had MQTT going, could

55:29

you have home assistant devices, talk

55:32

via Mesh Tastic, and then essentially

55:34

build out a Mesh IOT. network.

55:36

The node sending has to figure

55:38

out all the routes. We also

55:40

have a boost question from old

55:42

leak here. I'm sending 10 case

55:44

ads from Breeze. However, my transaction

55:46

history shows less. Is a note

55:48

in the split offline? Well, that

55:50

could be one issue or, you

55:52

know, in the lining network, the

55:54

node sending has to figure out

55:56

all the routes. So there could

55:58

have been some other issue in

56:00

the routes between us or temporary

56:03

failure. It's likely. you know, my

56:05

node or something didn't have channel

56:07

capacity, although we got this off

56:09

my note. So my note got

56:11

it. But that could be it.

56:13

That does happen from time to

56:15

time, and yeah, so those stats

56:17

don't leave your wallet when that

56:19

happens. Wes has built us a

56:21

fancy system, though, so we check

56:23

multiple nodes. So even if one

56:25

of the nodes didn't receive your

56:27

message, we're kind of checking that

56:29

against some of the other nodes

56:32

that we have and still get

56:34

that message. Well, tomato boosted in

56:36

one, two, three, four, four, four,

56:38

four, four, four, four, five, five,

56:40

five, five, five, five, five, five,

56:42

four, four, four, four, five, four,

56:44

four, four, four, four, four, four,

56:46

four, four, four, four, four, four,

56:48

four, four, four, four, four, four,

56:50

four, four, four, four, four, four,

56:52

four, four, four, four, four, four,

56:54

four, four, four So the combination

56:56

is one, two, three, four, five.

56:58

Happy New Year for my Fountain

57:00

Wallet. Still using Intenipod for Listening,

57:03

for the record. It was fun

57:05

to hear your adventures with Preempt

57:07

RT. I'm currently using the Zen

57:09

kernel myself. And as a former

57:11

open Salaris fan, I've been trying

57:13

to get a more responsive Linux

57:15

for over two decades now. Word.

57:17

Yeah, I've wanted this too. I

57:19

feel like that's exactly how I

57:21

feel like it's never been built

57:23

for me. for a generic server

57:25

workload, for maybe even a web

57:27

server workload or something like that,

57:29

but not a desktop workload. Tomato,

57:31

tomato, you are speaking my language,

57:34

brother. Wait for those of us

57:36

who haven't, Solaris, so give it

57:38

a little bit more here. I

57:40

want some context. Well, it's just

57:42

like a car, Brent. You know,

57:44

you can have a car that

57:46

you can have a car that

57:48

you get from the dealership that's

57:50

just a really nice kind of

57:52

balanced vehicle that'll last you hundreds

57:54

of thousands of thousands of miles.

57:56

Or you can get one that's

57:58

souped up with the turbo and

58:00

a bigger air intake and you

58:03

know maybe you got better exhaust

58:05

on this. and you've really kind

58:07

of like tweaked the computer a

58:09

little bit to make it like

58:11

you know run even harder. You

58:13

know, got it. It's kind of

58:15

like that. Yeah. Undefiable comes in

58:17

with a jar jar boost 5,000

58:19

cents. You're supposed. Just this thank

58:21

you for another year. Perfect. Thank

58:23

you very much. Appuasting from Breeze.

58:25

This is a postcode boost. No,

58:27

not a zip code boost, as

58:29

I'm in Australia. But keep up

58:31

the good work. Australia doesn't have

58:34

zip codes? I got these post

58:36

codes. Oh, I learned something today.

58:38

Did they don't have zippers either?

58:40

I don't know. I don't know.

58:42

Yeah. Okay, uh, two, six, eight,

58:44

zero. That looks to be located

58:46

in New South Wales. Well, hello,

58:48

New South Wales. Nice to hear

58:50

from you. Hope things are nice

58:52

down there. It's very snowy in

58:54

parts of the country here. hybrid

58:57

sarcasm comes in with 10,000 zats.

58:59

That's a spicy meat of all.

59:01

Says I need to have that

59:03

tuxies music in my life. Where

59:06

can I find it? Here on

59:08

the show. I think I bought

59:10

it. Yeah, I bought it. It's

59:12

like a licensed thing. And it's

59:14

good word show music, right? I

59:16

as a 202025 prediction for us

59:18

too. Jellyfin will release a swift

59:21

fin for TVOS via test flight.

59:23

And it's really freaking good. Do

59:25

you know something? So Swift Finn

59:27

is, as it sounds, an iOS

59:29

native Swift-based jellyfin client that works

59:31

great on iOS, except they don't

59:33

have a release for TVOS, where

59:35

you really kind of want to

59:38

watch Jellyfin. Right. So it would

59:40

be really nice to see that.

59:42

Thanks hybrid. Great to hear from

59:44

you. Geek dude Boosin with 10,000

59:46

Sats. Did you buy that from

59:48

a certified vendor? I primarily use

59:50

fish shell. Okay, that sounds like

59:53

a certified vendor to me. Yep.

59:55

My favorite extension for the fish

59:57

shell. is Bass. This extension lets

59:59

you use regular Bash scripts from

1:00:01

the fish shell by saying things

1:00:03

like Bass, Source, Set Up, Dot,

1:00:05

Source. It also works with modules.

1:00:07

With Bass, I no longer have

1:00:10

to leave Fish to work with

1:00:12

Bass utility scripts. Okay, this looks

1:00:14

kind of killers. Yeah, yeah, okay,

1:00:16

you got me right there. I

1:00:18

jaws this weekend. Had to do

1:00:20

that. Had to do the old,

1:00:22

up, back to Bash. That's great

1:00:25

to know. All right, so we'll

1:00:27

put a link to Bass, B-A-S-S

1:00:29

in the show notes. Bobby Penn

1:00:31

boosted in 10,000 cents. Banks are

1:00:33

Ponzi schemes run by morons. My

1:00:35

Linux prediction and hope for 2025

1:00:37

is that by the end of

1:00:39

the year, you will be able

1:00:42

to install actual SteamOS on a

1:00:44

computer of your choosing. To clarify,

1:00:46

this means the same OS that's

1:00:48

on the steam deck. Bazaite does

1:00:50

not count, but Valve getting hacked,

1:00:52

and the ISO getting leaked, certainly

1:00:54

does. We do not endorse such

1:00:57

behavior. Nobody like Bobby Binsling is

1:00:59

at one way or another. This

1:01:01

is happening. I'm getting it. I

1:01:03

want this to be true. And

1:01:05

I think with the brand updating

1:01:07

they're doing, I don't know. I

1:01:09

just feel like it is getting

1:01:12

close. We'll see, you know, if

1:01:14

you listen to our predictions episode,

1:01:16

you know that was kind of

1:01:18

a topic we were a bit

1:01:20

mixed on. I hope you're right,

1:01:22

Bobby. Thanks for the boost. Yukon

1:01:24

Cornelius is in with 18,100 sets.

1:01:26

Let's hear it, good buddy. Let's

1:01:29

hear it, good buddy. And it

1:01:31

says, since there's been some title

1:01:33

and CD talk recently, yeah. guilty.

1:01:35

I thought I'd share my two

1:01:37

cents on, I think you're sharing

1:01:39

your two cents, buddy, on High-Fi

1:01:41

in general. If you got an

1:01:44

old DVD Blu-ray player lying around,

1:01:46

that can be your new High-Fi

1:01:48

starting point. The thing is, you've

1:01:50

got to use the optical out

1:01:52

on the player instead of RCA.

1:01:54

Run the optical into a separate

1:01:56

deck. That's a digital-to-audio converter. And

1:01:58

then you can preserve... of the

1:02:01

digital source and pass it to

1:02:03

a dedicated piece of hardware

1:02:05

that will actually do the audio

1:02:07

justice, bypassing the cheap deck

1:02:10

inside the DVD player entirely.

1:02:12

That is a pro audio typical.

1:02:15

The bit I do know, that checks out.

1:02:17

What I can follow, I tend to

1:02:19

agree. It goes on to say, I

1:02:21

am running a WeM Ultra Streamer, which

1:02:24

plays title as my hi-fi home base.

1:02:26

It basically acts as an audio receiver

1:02:28

and then it passes line out to

1:02:30

my external amp. I also have a

1:02:33

4K Blu-ray player that I use to

1:02:35

play CDs going into the WeEM's optical

1:02:38

input. Do you think I'm saying

1:02:40

that right? Weem, WII-I-M. Weem. Weem.

1:02:42

The Weem allows for modularity and

1:02:44

customization and it's a good starting

1:02:47

point down the road. I can

1:02:49

add a better deck into the system

1:02:51

and I'll get a better sound quality.

1:02:53

I'll get even better sound quality.

1:02:55

I it's funny he just boosted

1:02:58

this because I was thinking you know

1:03:00

when we went to Toronto and and

1:03:02

we were doing our doing our thing

1:03:04

over there and we were setting up

1:03:06

the server stuff and you know we

1:03:08

had an opportunity to listen to some

1:03:10

really high-end speakers and I was

1:03:13

just reflecting on how much I enjoy

1:03:15

high fidelity audio and that when

1:03:17

people really spend the time just

1:03:19

this morning before didn't even know

1:03:21

this booth came in. And I

1:03:23

was just thinking like, I really

1:03:25

enjoy people's setups where they really

1:03:27

spend the time to get it

1:03:29

right. And you can hear the nuance

1:03:31

in the music, so I'd love to

1:03:34

hear about some of your setups out

1:03:36

there. He wraps up by saying, I'm

1:03:38

considering burning some DVDs with 24-bit 96

1:03:40

kilowhertz, source, out of title. Nice. Yeah,

1:03:43

that sounds right. Anonymous booth in with

1:03:45

2,468 sets. Coming in hot with the

1:03:47

booths. Oh, this is a little PSA,

1:03:50

actually. You get lots of value from

1:03:52

JB's shows, but aren't into Bitcoin. You

1:03:54

can head over to Jupiter.party and pay

1:03:56

what you want with your greasy old

1:03:59

Fiat fun bucks. Do you really

1:04:01

love you? Some lyrics unplugged and

1:04:03

maybe a little coder and twib

1:04:05

to boot? Well, my friend, did

1:04:07

you know that you can always

1:04:09

give more than the asking price

1:04:12

to show how much you appreciate

1:04:14

that crazy good value? Hurry over

1:04:16

to Jupiter Party now and show

1:04:19

that love. Well done. Well done.

1:04:21

Now, Isis, go on, live long and

1:04:23

prosper. You know what? Okay. You go

1:04:25

long and live long and live long

1:04:28

and... What was I saying? You go

1:04:30

foster it what I don't know

1:04:32

live long and prosper. Yeah,

1:04:34

this message paid for

1:04:36

by anonymous boosters for

1:04:38

Jupiter broadcast Well ambient

1:04:40

noise came in with three thousand

1:04:43

nine hundred and thirty

1:04:45

satosias The traders love the

1:04:47

ball. Here's a little mastastic

1:04:50

check-in I wanted to include my

1:04:52

gate in my home automation, but

1:04:54

it's way outside my Wi-Fi

1:04:56

range So I decided to have

1:04:59

a play with Mejtastic even though

1:05:01

it's not exactly designed for

1:05:04

this purpose. I'm using a

1:05:06

raspberry pie Pico-W with an

1:05:08

MT module connected to MQTT

1:05:10

to self-host that MQTT server.

1:05:12

This communicates with another raspberry

1:05:14

pie Pico with MT. I

1:05:16

guess MTT is mesh tactic. Sorry.

1:05:18

So he's kind of, this is

1:05:20

actually sort of exactly what I

1:05:22

was just talking about. Does it

1:05:25

really? This is incredible. And on

1:05:27

the other end, he's got a

1:05:29

serial connection to an adreno micro.

1:05:31

What? Cool. I was hoping you could use

1:05:33

mestastic for something like this, but this

1:05:35

is the proof in the Puds right

1:05:37

here. Delicious Puds. Thank you,

1:05:39

ambient noise. I really think, and I

1:05:42

wonder if anybody out there has

1:05:44

thought this or has done something

1:05:46

similar with a different technology. Garden

1:05:48

monitoring. You could really, you know, you

1:05:50

could monitor the crap out of your garden

1:05:52

and, you know, monitor soil, monitor wind,

1:05:55

monitor. uh... how wet it is all

1:05:57

that kind of stuff and you know

1:05:59

your whole Every sensor becomes part of

1:06:01

the mesh. And if you let Brent watch, he

1:06:03

can critique you. That's true. Yeah, yeah. Or actually

1:06:05

what you want to do is get it all

1:06:07

done, and then he'll show up and tell you

1:06:10

everything you did wrong, which would have been really

1:06:12

useful at the beginning, but now there's nothing you

1:06:14

can do about at the end. But he's going

1:06:16

to make sure you know about it. What is

1:06:18

this? What you guys think of me? Nothing. Nothing.

1:06:20

I meant mine as a compliment. Did I take

1:06:22

it. Did I take it. Did I take it.

1:06:24

Did I take it. Did I take it. Did

1:06:26

I take it. Did I do that. Did I

1:06:29

do that. Brad comes in with 15,000

1:06:31

sets. Make it so. Use some breeze

1:06:33

too, all known. J.B. fan Toronto Meetup,

1:06:35

FYI, Saturday, January 11th at noon.

1:06:37

Craft Beer in the market. Craft

1:06:39

Beer Market. Craft Beer Market. Go

1:06:41

to the Matrix. We have a

1:06:43

team Toronto for the details and

1:06:45

a gav.io link, which will have to

1:06:47

snag that. Yes. Brad, thank you for the

1:06:49

PSA here. So there you go. If you're

1:06:51

in the Toronto area, we're in the Toronto

1:06:54

area. We had a really good showing at

1:06:56

our meetup. PSA

1:06:58

there's another one coming up Saturday

1:07:01

January the 11th at noon at

1:07:03

Craft Beer Market and again there

1:07:05

is the team Toronto chat in

1:07:07

our Matrix chat room. Yeah I'd like

1:07:09

to just reiterate too if you

1:07:12

want to as a JB community

1:07:14

host these events on our patio

1:07:16

instance go to Colony events.com and

1:07:19

you can see them all

1:07:21

there. Zanzilla 94 comes in

1:07:23

with 14,000 sets. I am

1:07:25

programmed in multiple techniques. Here's

1:07:27

a boost in support of

1:07:29

transcripts. The amount of times

1:07:31

I've tried and failed to

1:07:33

find references to hardware or

1:07:36

software that y'all have mentioned

1:07:38

on the show is unfortunately

1:07:40

way too high. Okay. Speaking

1:07:42

of such, Chris, what's the

1:07:44

name of that W-L-E-D controller?

1:07:47

You've mentioned a few times now.

1:07:49

Yeah, it doesn't have a great name.

1:07:51

It's like it's domestic products. how I

1:07:53

feel like I probably failed some of

1:07:55

you out there that wanted to get

1:07:57

this. I'll tell you what I'll do

1:07:59

though. is I will look it up right now

1:08:01

and then I will put a link to it

1:08:03

in the show notes so you can just click

1:08:05

it because when I when I look

1:08:08

at the product name on Amazon it's

1:08:10

just Wi-Fi smart LED controller. All right

1:08:12

yeah I checked the show notes up

1:08:14

without help. Good question it's a

1:08:16

good device for anybody that doesn't know

1:08:18

what I'm talking about. It's a tiny

1:08:20

little board built by a small

1:08:22

business for a family that makes

1:08:24

a nice out of the box.

1:08:26

fully W LED compatible controller. That is

1:08:29

a fantastic way to grab W LED

1:08:31

compatible lights off of Amazon. You have the

1:08:33

whole setup for 50 bucks and you can

1:08:35

do stuff that the huge lights wish they

1:08:37

could do. It's PJ making these, isn't it?

1:08:40

Yeah, or yeah, or you have PJ wired

1:08:42

up. With this, there's no solder and everything

1:08:44

just connects plugs right in. Well, DJ had

1:08:46

a business and you're supporting this? I think

1:08:48

he could use the help. He could use

1:08:50

the help. He's got plenty. So sorry I

1:08:53

don't have a better name for you.

1:08:55

Zendzila continues by saying, Wes, since

1:08:57

you mentioned Cobuz, or Harvard we

1:08:59

decided we were going to say

1:09:01

that, I'd like to vouch for

1:09:03

the quality of their

1:09:05

service. I've personally found

1:09:07

superior availability and quality

1:09:09

on Cobuz compared to title.

1:09:11

I also mentioned my favorite tool

1:09:13

for stacking flags. Stream rip.

1:09:15

It's a dead simple command line tool,

1:09:18

gold standard. By the way, thanks

1:09:20

for all very useful. Good to

1:09:22

hear from you, Zen. Not the

1:09:25

one boosted in 10,000

1:09:27

sets. You shall all

1:09:30

bombard. Simply saying,

1:09:32

happy new year. Thank

1:09:34

you. Same to you.

1:09:37

Appreciate that, not. Nice

1:09:39

to hear from you.

1:09:41

And a quick thank you to the

1:09:43

dude who buys who was setting up his

1:09:46

alby hub and sent us 5,000 stats as

1:09:48

a test. That counts. That counts. That's a

1:09:50

hot boost. Thank you dude. Appreciate that. Getting

1:09:52

that alby hub going too is great to

1:09:55

see. All right, that is all the boost

1:09:57

above the 2,000 sat cutoff for this episode.

1:09:59

Thank you every. everybody who helped make

1:10:02

episode 597 a possibility. Screw the

1:10:04

ad winter, we continue on thanks

1:10:06

to our members and our boosters.

1:10:08

We had 48 of you stream

1:10:11

Sats as you listened and a

1:10:13

mighty 101,911 Sats stacked just by

1:10:15

our Sats streamers. Really, really thank

1:10:18

you for doing that. When you combine

1:10:20

that with the senders, we had

1:10:22

a really good showing because this was

1:10:24

over a couple of weeks, so this

1:10:26

is a high number. Just keep

1:10:29

that in mind we had

1:10:31

79 individuals participate in the

1:10:33

boost or stream value for

1:10:35

value experience and collectively with

1:10:37

all of your help we stacked

1:10:39

seven hundred and eighty six thousand

1:10:41

eight hundred and thirty eight sets

1:10:58

Really a fantastic holiday showing. Thank you

1:11:00

everybody for the holiday wishes. It means

1:11:02

a lot to us. Of course, thank

1:11:04

you to our members out there who

1:11:06

make this possible. Together you all made

1:11:08

episode 597 possible. If you'd like to

1:11:10

boost the show, you can do it

1:11:12

with fountain, you can do it with

1:11:14

breeze, you can set up alby hub.

1:11:16

We have links to get you started

1:11:18

at the top of the show notes. And of

1:11:20

course, you know, it's a unique thing we're doing

1:11:23

here. This is what I was gonna say.

1:11:25

We're never going to be some

1:11:27

big huge media outlet doing Linux

1:11:29

content. But we can continue and

1:11:31

be sustainable and we can't be

1:11:33

fired, we can't be canceled, we

1:11:36

can't have like a magazine publisher put

1:11:38

us out of work because the

1:11:40

support comes from the audience. That's

1:11:42

just huge. And it really means

1:11:44

a lot for this particular medium

1:11:47

too I think. And it makes a

1:11:49

Linux podcast where a business lives

1:11:51

and dies on the quality of

1:11:53

its Linux content. possible. It's something

1:11:55

really special. So thank you everybody from

1:11:58

the members to everybody that boosts. It

1:12:00

means a lot. It really does and

1:12:02

it keeps us going. So thank you.

1:12:04

Now I got a handful of picks

1:12:06

here. I know I overdid it. I

1:12:08

was excited. It's the New Year's. I

1:12:10

had gifts for all of you. Show

1:12:12

off. This first one we actually picked

1:12:14

in episode 469. I wanted to mention

1:12:17

it again though because tax season is

1:12:19

coming up and you may have a

1:12:21

situation where you are forced to use

1:12:23

commercial cloud storage to transfer sensitive documents.

1:12:25

And I want to tell you about

1:12:27

Cryptomator. I don't like the name, but

1:12:29

I like the app. It's available for

1:12:31

Windows, Mac, and Linux. And it is

1:12:33

a secure client-side encryption for cloud storage.

1:12:35

Essentially, it lets you create an encrypted

1:12:38

vault, then it mounts the cloud storage,

1:12:40

or you mount the cloud storage, and

1:12:42

you put the encrypted vault in there.

1:12:44

It cannot be decreted by your cloud

1:12:46

provider. And it gives you a nice

1:12:48

UI to get these things. It's essentially

1:12:50

a folder structure that gets compressed and

1:12:52

encrypted and encrypted. And you're doing it

1:12:54

all on your machine before it ever

1:12:56

touches Google Drive or Dropbox or one

1:12:59

driver or whatever it might be. Nice.

1:13:01

Yeah, so a little reminder that it

1:13:03

is a thing. It's easy to install.

1:13:05

It's available on Flathub as well. And

1:13:07

I had to use this recently as

1:13:09

I was preparing some documents for the

1:13:11

IRS. And this is how I'm securing

1:13:13

those documents. And then I can store

1:13:15

them on cloud storage and not worry

1:13:17

about it. We also frequently mention flat

1:13:19

packs that you can install. Just a

1:13:22

quick way to share these with all

1:13:24

of you. And you know every now

1:13:26

and then you can have some crux

1:13:28

when you maybe tried out an app,

1:13:30

didn't work, maybe it left a few

1:13:32

layers behind. That's where flat sweep comes

1:13:34

in. Flat sweep helps you get rid

1:13:36

of the residue left by some of

1:13:38

those un installed flat packs. Wow, okay.

1:13:40

I like the flat pack is solving

1:13:43

its own problem here in a way.

1:13:45

Yeah. Use it with caution of course

1:13:47

because you're removing data, but I freed

1:13:49

up about 80 megabytes. Did you break?

1:13:51

None. That's just it. Everything worked. That's

1:13:53

why I went ahead and mentioned it.

1:13:55

I tried it first on my system.

1:13:57

And I figured if it broke, I'd

1:13:59

tell you about that too. But I

1:14:01

was surprised, you know, and it's funny

1:14:04

because of course the criticism is it

1:14:06

uses so much additional disk. Well, it

1:14:08

turned out about 80 megabytes. Oh no,

1:14:10

I'll never be the same, but it's

1:14:12

nice. So it's called flat sweep. And

1:14:14

of course it feels flat pack. And

1:14:16

then one last one. Do you boys

1:14:18

do this where you have like, especially

1:14:20

when you have a multimonder setup that

1:14:22

you're rock in, a persistent text editor

1:14:24

that's always there for like a quick

1:14:27

pasting or. Of course I have new

1:14:29

writing open somewhere. Do you have been

1:14:31

watching me? Where have you got my

1:14:33

computer? And you know, some text editors,

1:14:35

they like to have a whole library

1:14:37

and a history and they want to

1:14:39

auto restore. They want to make sure

1:14:41

you save when you close the window.

1:14:43

And I don't want any of that.

1:14:45

I just want a buffer I can

1:14:48

dump stuff in, copy and paste out

1:14:50

of and have basically a persistent, low

1:14:52

key, simple text editor. That's where buffer

1:14:54

comes in. And this is our last

1:14:56

pick of the week of the week.

1:14:58

Celebrating Transients buffer provides a minimal editing

1:15:00

space for all the things that you

1:15:02

don't need to keep. It's got a

1:15:04

whole bunch of keyboard shortcuts because it's

1:15:06

designed for a keyboard workflow as they

1:15:09

say. You close the application it doesn't

1:15:11

ask you to save and it doesn't

1:15:13

save your work. It's gone. It's really

1:15:15

meant for like something you just have

1:15:17

up on the screen. You never have

1:15:19

to use your mouse. You need some

1:15:21

place to quickly edit. It does have

1:15:23

a couple of nice features. It's got

1:15:25

a spell check. It's got line numbers

1:15:27

you can do in there I really

1:15:29

like it I've been using it on

1:15:32

plasma and on my my one Ghanom

1:15:34

desktop It is a GTK application works

1:15:36

just great on plasma. No big deal

1:15:38

at all doesn't replace Zaturk for me,

1:15:40

but it's kind of this You know

1:15:42

local pastebin if you will a transient

1:15:44

pastebin it's buffer. Oh like it's made

1:15:46

by Chris Haywood and it's up on

1:15:48

get up on flat hub as well

1:15:50

and never worry about what you leave

1:15:53

in there Like I just have a

1:15:55

text that are open. I don't even

1:15:57

want to close it when I'm shutting

1:15:59

down I just want the process to

1:16:01

be killed and when it opened up

1:16:03

Don't ask me if I want to

1:16:05

restore anything a place to stick stuff

1:16:07

that you're going to move somewhere else.

1:16:09

If I want that, I'll use a

1:16:11

different editor. If I want something that's

1:16:14

going to restore or something, you know,

1:16:16

opens up files of a directory, I'll

1:16:18

use that. Yeah, my only thought is

1:16:20

how long until you lose a show

1:16:22

doc to it. Oh, yeah, that can

1:16:24

happen like a crash. Yeah, that I

1:16:26

do sometimes use it to like temporarily

1:16:28

like reformat, some stuff I'm going to

1:16:30

put in the doc. Yeah, we'll see.

1:16:32

We'll see. I may live to regret

1:16:34

my pick to regret my pick. But

1:16:37

there you. Cryptomator. Cryptomator. flat sweep and

1:16:39

buffer. We'll have links to all of

1:16:41

those in the show notes. And that's

1:16:43

it. That's our episode. And we're still

1:16:45

soliciting your feedback on the tuxies and

1:16:47

your predictions for 2025. So please do

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boost those in. See you next week.

1:16:51

Same bad time. Same bad station. And

1:16:53

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1:17:02

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1:17:06

weeks left to figure out where you'll

1:17:08

be for episode 600. Geez, Wes. Yeah,

1:17:10

we should probably figure that out too.

1:17:12

Where are we going to be? Don't

1:17:14

know. But I'll end with this. Thank

1:17:16

you so much for listening to this

1:17:19

week's episode of the Unplugged Program. We'll

1:17:21

hope you be here all for 2025

1:17:23

with us. We really appreciate you and

1:17:25

we'll see you right back here next

1:17:27

week. Superior

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ability breeds superior

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ambition.