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Welcome to Breakdown to Breakthrough, the
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podcast that empowers you to transform
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your life by awakening to your
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true authentic self. I'm Lisa Aromano,
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your host. As an award-winning author
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and certified life coach, I've dedicated
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my life to helping others understand
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the incredible power of an organized
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mind. I believe that true empowerment
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begins with awakening to our false
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Academy, a three-part coaching and brain
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illuminate the path to healing
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and self-discovery. Namas
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everybody, my name is Lisa Romano
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and today we're going to be
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talking about the codependent narcissistic paradigm
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and how you can break through.
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So the codependent narcissistic paradigm truly
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represents the paradigms that you that
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were impressed upon you when you're
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a little one before the age
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of seven. Before the age of
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seven everybody is in a theta
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brainwave state. So that meant mommy
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and daddy were basically your hypnotists.
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So the codependent narcissistic dynamic, the
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codependent narcissistic dance, your codependency in
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and of itself as a standalone
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issue, personality issue, can be all
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traced back to childhood. Now why
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is this important to understand?
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It's important to understand
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because paradigms govern your life. Everything
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that you think, all of your
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behavior, are going to be governed by
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paradigms. And that's not a bad thing
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as long as you awaken and if
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you don't like your current paradigm, then
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you commit every day of your
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life to breaking that paradigm. You
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have to become so hungry for
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recovery, but just not recovery for
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thriving, for changing the paradigms that
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govern your work, that you never
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give up. I'm doing this work
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nearly 30 years now, and I do
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it every single day. I sharpen the
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acts of my mind every single day.
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This is all I want to focus
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on because it set me free. And
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the idea that it can set you
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free excites me. And one of the
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reasons that it excites me is because
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you're in the field of energy that
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I'm in. There's no such thing to
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separation. Right, whether you're talking about Max
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Planck or Einstein, they're all talking about
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this field, this universal field that connects
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us all. And imagine that you're a
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Bluetooth. You have a Bluetooth signal, and
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that's your EMF. You're an electromagnetic field,
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and you are interfacing with this quantum
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field, of which I am a part,
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of which my granddaughter is a part,
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and my, my grandson's, all of my
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children are a part. Every person that
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I love every tree is a part
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of this quantum field. So when you
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shift the way you think when you
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have a paradigm shift You affect the
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energy that you admit and that that
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helps change us all that helps to
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affect us all So I'm excited to
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think that somebody who's in a codependent
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relationship or a codependent narcissic relationship in
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a relationship with a narcissist I'm excited
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to think that that person who is
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listening is really gaining the understanding that
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this basically comes down to a paradigm
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or a subconscious program. And that paradigms,
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because you are God's highest form of
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creation, you have the right to change
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that paradigm. You have what's called medicognition,
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but here's the thing. It has to
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be activated. And you're already halfway there,
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because you're listening to this information. You're
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already investing in shifting your paradigm. So
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it's really important that you understand that
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if you shift your paradigm, you shift
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your life. So the codependent narcissistic paradigm
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will go back, in my opinion, will
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go back to childhood. I know that's
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where I traced mine. Before the age
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of 18 months, if you don't know
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that you can trust your parents... that
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they're going to meet your needs, then
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what happens is you develop mistrust. Now
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that happens super early. Now imagine that
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becomes part of your psychological subconscious paradigm.
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Consider an equation that governs your life
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when it comes to trusting your emotions
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and trusting that the people in your
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environment will meet your needs, without agitation,
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without rejection, and without punishment. So if
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you were lucky enough to, by the
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time that you were 18 months old,
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learn that when you cried and you
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had a feeling... and this feeling caused
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you to express it, and by expressing
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it, your needs are met by someone
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on the outside, you develop a paradigm
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for trust, a paradigm that allows you
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to trust your feelings. A paradigm that
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says, yes, it's okay that if I
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feel this, I can say this, and
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the people, it's normal for me and
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good for me to expect that the
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people that love me will meet me
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halfway. They're not going to reject me.
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They're going to abandon me. Not so
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if you have a codependent paradigm. If
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you have a codependent paradigm, you were
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taught your feelings don't matter. You were
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taught that you were unworthy of love.
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You were taught conditional love. You were
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taught that as long as you people
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please, as long as you look around
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the room and flutter around the room,
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making sure that everybody has what they
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want, even at the expense of yourself,
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codependents do not sit still. We're very
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much worried about what other people think,
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what other people need, and we just
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see ourselves as the person who subjugates
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to other people. We see ourselves as
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servants. We pick up on the needs
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of other people and we have been
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programmed and groomed to think that's my
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job. It has nothing to do with
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me. If I'm going to take it
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upon myself because I'm a kind... person,
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then sure. And I do it without
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expectation. And it's coming from a place
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of abundance versus lack. Well, I'm going
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to do this thing and everyone's going
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to think that I'm a nice person.
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Right? Nice people are oftentimes trying to
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manipulate a sense of worthiness from the
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outside. And to me, that's a form
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of manipulation. Really hard to hear, but
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knowing that and seeing that and myself
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helped me shift my paradigm about being
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a codependent. I didn't like the feeling
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of being a codependent. I didn't want
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to, I don't like that identity. I
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wanted to shake it. And once I
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realized that was my identity, I was
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running the codependent paradigm. Thank you, Mom
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and Dadad. I didn't want anything to
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do with it. And so I knew
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that I had to shift my identity.
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So that identity came from being the
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nice person in the room to minding
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my own business and allowing people to
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grow nest adults to get their own
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glass of water. and to not feel
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like I have to come in and
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take care of everybody. I started learning
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how to mine my business. And then
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eventually I was able to find the
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balance of it. So now, you know
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what, if I noticed that someone needs
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a glass of water or would like
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a glass of water and they're awkward
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and they don't know where the glasses
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are in the house, it's... fine for
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me to say, can I help get
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you a glass of water? Because it's
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not coming from the codependent paradigm anymore.
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I've had a shift in my identity.
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The codependent paradigm is wrought with, I'm
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not enough, I have to seek approval,
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I have to fear disapproval. It's wrought
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with everybody's emotions are more important than
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mine. I should be embarrassed about my
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emotions. I have to seek the approval
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of men if you're a female and
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you're codependent. I have to seek approval
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of men. I should not tell a
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man if that I'm upset. I should
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just pretend that I'm happy. My needs
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are unimportant. I have to worry about
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what everybody thinks about me. I have
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to be the first one at work
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and the last one to leave. I
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have to prove myself. Prove myself. Prove
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myself. co-dependent paradigm. Now, someone who has
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a narcissistic paradigm is operating from they
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owe me. People don't know how brilliant
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I am. I only want to be
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around people that understand my brilliance. I
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am entitled to be rude to people.
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See, if you have a narcissistic paradigm,
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you are running the paradigm of arrogance.
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You think that arrogance is confidence. They're
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not one of the same thing. Confidence
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does not... mean that you have to,
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well if you're confident you don't have
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to put down other people. If you're
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confident you're not stepping on the heads
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of other people. If you're confident and
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you have emotional intelligence that you understand
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that the way you speak to people
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affects how they receive you and affects
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their response to you. when you have
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a narcissistic paradigm, you don't have that
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in your mind. You're a paradigm is
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as I'm right and they're wrong. I
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have a feeling, they're responsible for it,
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and if they're responsible for it, then
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they're the ones that have to fix
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this unsettled feeling inside of me. So
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the narcissistic paradigm is they lack self-awareness.
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They lack self-awareness. They are entitled. They
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lack empathy. These are pervasive patterns. They're
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exploitative. And so, but they lack self-awareness.
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it is with a codependent. When you're
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a codependent you lack self-awareness. There's that
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commonality. When you're a narcissist, oftentimes not
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always, sometimes narcissism is tied to a
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brain anomaly. When you are a narcissist
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and you've been conditioned to be a
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narcissist by your environment through severe emotional
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abandonment or some form of abuse, and
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you've learned that, uh-oh, you know, I
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have to, it's better for me to
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eat people than to be eaten. Right?
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So that's your defense. The narcissism is
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an ego-defense mechanism. Codependent is operating from
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a paradigm of ego-defense mechanisms as well.
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Uh-oh. To survive. I have to take
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care of people. So you can see
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that the codependent narcissistic relationship is a
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complete match in terms of power. Now,
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the only way to break a paradigm
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is to know that you're in the
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paradigm. And so I call this the
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level one consciousness. It's when we're in
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a paradigm, we're operating from belief systems,
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but we're not aware of them. That
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was certainly my reality up until my
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mid-30s when my life spiraled out of
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control, and I finally found a therapist.
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at a complete desperation, but I also
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realized that it was at that point
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I wasn't attached to an outcome. So
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this is a very important idea and
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concept to get a hold of. So
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a codependent is attached to an outcome.
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Please don't leave me. I can't honor
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my emotions, but I'm going to try
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to get you to validate my emotions
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and convince you that my emotions are
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valid. It's me abandoning myself every single
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time. and me in that relationship with
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my ex-husband, the co-dependent in my opinion,
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narcissistic tango that we were in. It
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was me giving up on myself. It
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was the paradigm of, Lisa, you're not
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worthy to be honored. You're not worthy
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of honoring your own emotions. No, you
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can't trust your emotions. Your job is
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to get people to agree with your
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emotions. And when I couldn't manipulate my
10:33
ex-husband to give me permission to be
10:35
so unhappy in this relationship, I imploded,
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because that was my paradigm. And it
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wasn't until I had a very... conscious,
10:41
clear shift when my therapist said, you're
10:44
codependent, it was a mind shift. It
10:46
was suddenly awareness was being opened. There
10:48
was like a window in my mind,
10:50
and suddenly I was observing myself. as
10:53
a co-dependent person operating from a paradigm.
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It helped me realize I'm not broken.
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The paradigm that I'm living was given
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to me by this environment. And it's
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my job to become aware of it
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and to break the paradigm day in
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and day out. And that takes time.
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It doesn't happen. overnight. I know I
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offer a 12-week break the coaching program,
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an eight-week master class, and 10-week soul
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school, but it doesn't happen in 30
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weeks of programs. It happens with every
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single day, what is my paradigm, what
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is the faulty belief, what is the
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faulty premise, what is the faulty premise,
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how can I break that pattern by
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behaving and thinking differently today? So it's
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like Mount Rushmore. How long did it
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take to create Mount Rushmore? Years. I
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mean I'm actually going to look into
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that because I don't know. Michael Angelos,
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a statue of David, how long did
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it take him to sculpt that Michael
11:44
Angelo out of that clay? It's the
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same thing with your innate self. It's
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the same thing with my higher self.
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I was in there, Lisa, a remodel
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that break the life coach, the person
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who creates videos and podcasts and writes
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coaching programs for wounded adult children who
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want to break free of the change
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of the past. I was in there,
12:04
but it was my paradigm that I
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had to chisel away. in order for
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my true self to emerge and that
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takes time. So when you consider yourself
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like Michael Angelo and chipping away and
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allowing the statue of David to emerge,
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which is one of the most well-known
12:20
statues all over the world, when you
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think about... Mount Rushmore and the heads
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of the presidents in that mountain and
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how long that took to emerge. When
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you think about creating a city and
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how long that takes to emerge, you
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start to understand and apply the same
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principles to your future reality. It's going
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to take time. So if you have
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a paradigm that has you believing that,
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well, I'm just going to, you know,
12:44
take a couple of, you know, Xanax
12:47
and I'm going to feel better. and
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that's escapism or I'm just gonna scroll
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through social media and I'm really upset
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with my husband and he's not really
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listening to me my kids are a
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mess I'm just gonna go out shopping
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or you know I'm gonna I'm gonna
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dabble in you know e-trade I'm gonna
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start buying a lot of stocks and
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trading a lot of stocks whatever it
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is whatever form of escapism that it
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that you use inside the codependent paradigm
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is only going to keep you stuck.
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So part of what you have to
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understand if you're trying to break through
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these paradigms and you want to create
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a healthy relationship like I've been able
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to attract in my life through this
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work you really have to start thinking
13:29
about your subconscious childhood programming as a
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paradigm as a recipe for your future
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life and you want to start realizing
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that those paradigms can... be broken. I
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create new paradigms in my life every
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single day and I try and it's
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only through meditation and journaling self-reflective exercise,
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experiential exercise. It's this mindset that I
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have now that I didn't have before.
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Now it's like no, my mind is
13:51
my mind and it's my responsibility. I
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had a huge shift in the codependent
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narcissistic paradigm when I began to see
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my ex-husband as someone who was highly
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narcissistic and extremely passive aggressive. I used
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to call him the nice Boy Scout,
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the nice narcissist because people loved him.
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He was so accommodating to other people.
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that was all part of the allure
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and part of like what kept me
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stuck but he's so nice to everybody
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but he's mean to me and he's
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mean to the kids it must be
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us same thing with my mother it
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was part of the paradigm my mom
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is so nice to her friends and
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so nice to my dad but she's
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so mean to me and my brother
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and my sister I was living out
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the same paradigm in that relationship with
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my ex-husband and when I saw it
14:38
clearly I thought well if it's a
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paradigm and it represents a bunch of
14:43
beliefs then I guess I should be
14:45
working on shifting my paradigm. That's why
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I became obsessed with the subconscious mind.
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And that's why I create all of
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my coaching programs based on neuroscience and
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based on how to affect you at
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the subconscious level, which is essentially eradicating
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a negative paradigm and replacing it with
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a healthier paradigm. But can you fix
15:03
a hole in the wall that you
15:05
don't see? No. So we have to
15:07
get clear about our paradigm. So that's
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why I wanted to offer a session
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about the... codependent narcissistic paradigm. I was
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in that paradigm and when I began
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to see myself as a codependent that
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helped shift my paradigm and then when
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I started to see him as highly
15:23
narcissistic that helped me shift my paradigm
15:25
against him or towards him. And in
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the middle, suddenly this whole new perspective
15:30
was born, and I was able to
15:32
gain distance from my paradigm and space
15:34
from his paradigm, and it was like
15:36
working in that energy. So when he
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would come home from work at the
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end of the day, I now knew
15:43
Lisa, don't act and operate from the
15:45
codependent paradigm, hold on to yourself. Don't
15:48
try to fix his mood. Codependents are
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affected by the moods of other people.
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If you're in a bad mood, I
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want to fix it. And if you're
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in a bad mood and I'm in
15:59
a good mood, I can't be in
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a good mood. I have to lower
16:03
my mood to match your mood. That
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helps me feel safe. That reduces the
16:08
anxiety in my body. Why? Because as
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a child, I didn't have a paradigm
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for individuality or autonomy. It wasn't safe
16:14
to be a three-year-old girl dancing around
16:17
the living room. It wasn't safe to
16:19
pretend I was a ballerina. You got
16:21
abused when you felt safe and you
16:23
let go. What are you doing, making
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so much noise? Who do you think
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you are? You're not thin enough to
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be a ballerina. You're not beautiful enough
16:32
to be a ballerina, right? So it's
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not safe to let go and be
16:37
happy around people who are unhappy. No,
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I have to minimize my mood to
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be one with you in your mood
16:43
to control my own anxiety. Once you
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understand the code of pen and paradigm,
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now you're working effectively. Now you're not
16:50
the ship in the middle of the
16:52
ocean bobbing and subject to the to
16:55
the water and the storms. No, you
16:57
are navigating your ship and it is
16:59
incredible and it could actually be a
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lot of fun when you do this
17:04
work consciously. So if he came home
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at the end of the day, now
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that I knew that I had a
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codependent paradigm, then it was... like hold
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on to your energy, hold on to
17:15
your energy. Okay, you just slam the
17:17
cabinets, don't ask him what's wrong, don't
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seek his approval. Right? Certain, feed him
17:21
dinner, feed the children dinner, don't expect
17:24
him to say something nice about the
17:26
dinner. If he grunts, don't ask him
17:28
what he doesn't like. All right, these
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are all the ways I had to
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chip away the codependent paradigm. Are you
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okay, honey, did I cook a good
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enough for you? Are you a happy,
17:39
little boy? Are you please with me?
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Are you going to be nice to
17:44
me later on? Are you going to
17:46
ignore me? Please. The narcissist wants to
17:48
be in a bad mood and control
17:50
your mood. The narcissist wants to see
17:53
you grovel. The narcissist wants to see,
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oh, you were up here? Well, now,
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because I'm in a bad mood, I'm
17:59
going to bring you down here. It's
18:02
a source of narcissistic supply. So these
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are just some of the ideas I'd
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like to leave you with when it
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comes to a co-dependent and a narcissistic
18:11
paradigm. And I really hope that what
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you hear me saying is that you
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can break this paradigm if you can
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become aware of it. And you make
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it your solemn goal. And I can
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tell you it's a goal that's worthwhile.
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I keep expanding my life because the
18:26
minute I find that I'm a plateaued
18:28
in my relationships or I plateaued in
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my health, any area of my life,
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if I've plateaued, I'm not... thinking big
18:35
enough. I'm not dreaming big enough. So
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it's like, okay, I got a little
18:40
comfortable, let's see how far I can
18:42
push this. And because you are a
18:44
creator, because you are creative at your
18:46
core, once you shatter these paradigms, but
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first you have to recognize them, once
18:51
you shatter them, you can move beyond
18:53
them. So I'd like to leave you
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with a few ideas. Look at your
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bank account. that your state of health
19:00
is a paradigm. Look at the clothes
19:02
in your closet. Look at the shoes
19:04
that you wear on your feet. These
19:06
are paradigms. You're not doing this to
19:09
judge. You're just trying to gain some
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metacognitive awareness, which is self-awareness, self-inquiry, about
19:13
the paradigms that are governing your life.
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Look where you live. That's a paradigm.
19:18
If you don't know what the paradigm
19:20
is, then you can't challenge it. Look
19:22
at your state of self-esteem or self-worth.
19:24
That is a paradigm. Look at your
19:27
relationship status. That is a paradigm. This
19:29
morning, I got an email from an
19:31
85-year-old woman which sparked this session, and
19:33
what she said was that I'm too
19:35
old. It's too old for me, and
19:38
it was in response to my newsletter,
19:40
which I should have talked about earlier,
19:42
but I forgot to go back to
19:44
it, but I'm remembering now. So in
19:47
the email, she said, Lisa, I love
19:49
everything that you say in all of
19:51
your emails, and you sound so hopeful.
19:53
and you're so generous with the information
19:56
that you give for free in your
19:58
newsletters and on YouTube and really praising
20:00
the work that she's found which is
20:02
beautiful but to me what I thought
20:05
was so sad was that she's giving
20:07
up she said it's too late for
20:09
me that's her paradigm now if we
20:11
could shift her paradigm or she could
20:13
shift her paradigm because it's not my
20:16
responsibility to shift her paradigm but if
20:18
she could listen to this and imagine
20:20
that maybe it's not too late for
20:22
her. Maybe it would be worthy for
20:25
her to start shifting her paradigm. Then
20:27
if she lived for another five years
20:29
or 10 years, 20 years, or 30
20:31
or 50 years, God willing, then the
20:34
last few years of her life would
20:36
be the best years of her life.
20:38
But to croak in an old paradigm
20:40
and say, oh, it's too late for
20:43
me, dear one, you're operating from a
20:45
paradigm. It is never too late. As
20:47
long as there is air in my
20:49
body, I'll be doing this work. I'll
20:51
be striving to achieve another level of
20:54
consciousness. And part of it is because
20:56
I think I've got this spirit inside
20:58
of me that is just like, I'll
21:00
show you. Spirit is what helped me
21:03
survive my family. when I was going
21:05
through my divorce and they were angry
21:07
at me and they were judging me
21:09
and making assumptions about me and turning
21:12
people against me like this is my
21:14
own family my own flesh and blood
21:16
right like I think that that I'll
21:18
show you attitude really what helped me
21:20
push like I didn't like the idea
21:23
that that people were my own family
21:25
were hoping I would fall in my
21:27
face. And people that were supposed to
21:29
support me were like, oh, she's never
21:32
going to make it without him. And
21:34
it was like, oh, yeah, well, I'll
21:36
show you that determinism. Like, I'm going
21:38
to prove to you that I don't
21:41
need you. And I really did. And
21:43
it was, as soon as we were
21:45
separated, I got three jobs. I was
21:47
working seven days a week, but you
21:50
know what? I didn't go to my
21:52
family for anything. I shattered the paradigm
21:54
of I need my ex-husband to support
21:56
me, I need my family to be
21:58
there for me. No, I did not.
22:01
I am evidence that I needed no
22:03
one but the creative ability within me
22:05
to change the way I think. And
22:07
Wayne Dyer was the one who said,
22:10
when you change the way you look
22:12
at things, the things you look at
22:14
change. When I changed the way I
22:16
looked at myself. I need them. I'm
22:19
nothing without them. I'll never be able
22:21
to take care of my kids and
22:23
my own. I don't have a college
22:25
degree. How can I create great wealth
22:28
if I don't have a college degree?
22:30
I can't write a book. I don't
22:32
have a literary agent. Well, I... took
22:34
care of my kids, became a personal
22:36
trainer, started my own personal training business.
22:39
I wrote a book, then I wrote
22:41
another book, and another book. I have
22:43
eight best-selling books. Two of them have
22:45
been awarded the wonderful stature of being
22:48
two of the best books on codependency
22:50
of all time. If I hadn't shattered
22:52
those paradigms, I would not be here.
22:54
You would not be listening to my
22:57
voice. My podcast is consistently ranked as
22:59
one of the top 100 podcast on
23:01
mental health issues. My YouTube channel has
23:03
grown to over
23:05
700 ,000 subscribers. It's It's
23:08
incredible can you can
23:10
create once you
23:12
shatter the codependent narcissistic
23:14
paradigm. been So I
23:17
hope this has
23:19
been helpful. I hope
23:21
that you feel
23:23
uplifted heard that what
23:26
you just heard makes
23:28
sense because it's not you,
23:30
one, it's not
23:32
you, it's just a
23:35
it's a It's a
23:37
paradigm. you And if
23:39
you can see it
23:41
through through it and
23:43
then practice a new
23:46
paradigm, you're going
23:48
to be to happy
23:50
little camper very soon.
23:52
That's my promise
23:55
to you. to you. everybody.
23:57
As to to the
23:59
light, as is absolutely
24:01
in you. Even
24:04
if you can't see
24:06
it or feel
24:08
it, it's in you.
24:10
you, You just need
24:13
to connect to
24:15
it more often. feel
24:17
If you would like
24:19
to work with
24:21
me, please go to
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24:30
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would be happy
24:51
to serve you. Namaste,
24:53
everybody. Bye bye
24:55
for now. bye by for now.
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