In the latest episode of Listening In (With Permission), we dive deep into the challenges and potential solutions around high healthcare costs that employers face in states like Florida, Michigan, and Nevada.

This conversation brings together Karen van Caulil, Bret Jackson, and Chris Syverson to discuss findings from CPR's recent research, reflecting on state-specific struggles and opportunities for policy intervention. They explore the implications of soaring insurance premiums—like the 16.9% increase facing nonprofits in Michigan—and the burden of surprise facility fees that can cost consumers and employers alike.

This episode offers a thoughtful and urgent look at the healthcare crisis, with a focus on how businesses and policymakers can collaborate to create more sustainable solutions. Tune in to hear what’s working, what’s not, and how we can pave a path forward in the ongoing battle against rising healthcare prices.