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Rob Lo

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has the

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best

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stories

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in

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Hollywood.

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Ever.

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Proceed.

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The real Adam Scott. No offense

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to the golf for Adam

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Scott. Adam Scott, severance.

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One of the greatest shows

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ever. He's here to talk about

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the new season. Who knows?

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We might even talk a

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little Parks and Recreation. Might

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be a little Chris Trager

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Ben reunion and all kinds

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of great stuff. So I

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am bursting with happiness for

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Adam Scott. Well, we'll talk

0:58

about all this shit. They're like,

1:01

look at you, you look great.

1:03

You look great. You mean, you

1:05

look exactly the same? You

1:07

continue to have very Adam

1:10

Scott's style, which I love.

1:12

I don't know how to

1:14

describe it, but I fucking

1:16

love it. That's nice of

1:18

you to say. Likewise, and

1:20

you smell terrific, as always.

1:23

Well, thank you. I don't think

1:25

I'm known for my scent. It's

1:27

a good attribute to have, I

1:29

think. Right? Don't you think? Oh,

1:31

I do. It's very important. As

1:34

important as the hair. The hair.

1:36

I mean, bro, let's face it.

1:38

Listen. I mean, we lucked out.

1:40

We drew the genetic lottery. Yes.

1:42

But like, I don't know, I

1:45

can only speak for myself. Yeah.

1:47

I've been taking Propeisha since

1:49

I was eight or nine years

1:51

old, I think. My parents. along

1:53

with all my other vaccinations, injected me

1:56

with propetia when I was born. Yeah,

1:58

now you're a hedgehog. That's right. No,

2:00

I started taking it when

2:02

I was like 28 or something. So

2:04

you did. I was doing a bit,

2:06

but no, I did too, by the

2:08

way. Yeah, around that time. 30. I

2:10

remember, like, so I hadn't done any

2:12

like, this is like the most sort

2:15

of, I know you love these stories,

2:17

so I'm telling you, this is you

2:19

love this show. The bet, by the

2:21

way, as everyone knows, because they listen

2:24

to this podcast, Roblo, has

2:26

the best stories in Hollywood,

2:29

ever. Proceed. Say that again

2:31

and say, and I'm Adam Scott,

2:33

we're going to use that as

2:35

now. Just add, and I'm Adam

2:37

Scott. So I'm Adam Scott, and

2:39

I am here to say that

2:41

Roblow has the best stories, as

2:43

you know, because you listened to

2:46

this podcast in Hollywood,

2:48

the very best stories. Please

2:50

proceed, sir. Amazing. All right,

2:52

make note of that, boys.

2:54

So I hadn't done any

2:56

magazine covers in like... decades.

2:58

I've been serving the Hinterlands.

3:01

Yeah, raising my family and

3:03

like doing whatever the fuck.

3:05

And then I get the West Wing.

3:07

Yeah. And so everything changes

3:09

and I remember getting like

3:11

people magazine cover and I

3:13

was like, I'm back motherfucker.

3:16

I'm so back. And then I get

3:18

it. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

3:20

whoa, whoa, wait a minute. And I'm

3:22

like convinced I'm losing my hair. Just

3:25

from the photo. Oh, interesting.

3:27

And just the light hitting

3:29

a certain way, a certain

3:32

way, and scary moment. It's

3:34

not a good moment. No. We

3:36

don't like this. No. And so

3:38

then I, you know, then I went

3:40

on the protocol. So

3:43

was that an immediate thing? I

3:45

mean, because I remember

3:47

Naomi saying, hey, sorry, I

3:49

don't know how you feel about this,

3:52

but I thought I would let you

3:54

know that. I noticed some hair on

3:56

your pillow in the morning, every

3:58

morning, every morning. Yeah, like, you

4:00

know, once she started noticing

4:03

it, she was noticing

4:05

it. And I was like, oh, okay. And

4:07

then I kind of got the mirror

4:09

and, and, and so there are an

4:12

array of options out there.

4:14

Like I remember buying something

4:16

to rub on it. But you

4:18

remember when, and I, next time

4:20

I have one, I'm going to

4:22

ask it was, I always forget,

4:25

McConahay was doing radio

4:27

ads for, for something.

4:29

that you rub in your

4:31

scalp? Yes, you remember this?

4:34

I remember hearing about it.

4:36

Yes, yes. But the pill seemed

4:38

like the easiest, most practical.

4:41

It's the only. And it works. Are

4:43

we familiar with what's

4:45

going on in Turkey? No. What? Oh,

4:47

it's bro. So... This is... I

4:49

can't wait. I mean... No,

4:51

apparently... Turkey is the new

4:53

hair transplant capital of the

4:55

world. and they like fly you out

4:58

they put you up in a hotel

5:00

and it costs like two grand sure

5:02

and and you come back and you look

5:04

like Adam Scott right like it

5:06

looks good yeah it's unbelievable why

5:08

turkey is there lenient regulation or

5:10

something I think it has something

5:12

to do with like why why

5:14

do I shoot my game show

5:16

the American game show the floor

5:19

in Ireland yeah yeah yeah yeah it's

5:21

like do you really I do where about

5:23

Dublin I'm about to go to Cork for

5:25

like a couple months. No, wait,

5:27

what are you doing? A movie, but Cork

5:29

is out in the country side. Oh,

5:32

you've been there? Oh, I haven't been

5:34

to Cork, but have you been to

5:36

Ireland at all? I've been to Dublin.

5:39

It's great. It's great. It's so fantastic.

5:41

It's beautiful. That's interesting that you shoot

5:43

the floor there. It's cheaper to bring

5:46

a hundred American people to Ireland than

5:48

to walk across the lot, right Fox.

5:50

Right. Past the sound stages and do

5:53

it there. Crazy. Do you think if

5:55

we shot parks right now we would

5:57

be in Budapest? 100% we would be.

6:00

We'd be in Budapest. We would

6:02

be... It's so weird, there's nothing

6:04

shoots in Los Angeles. Nothing. Nothing.

6:06

Nothing. I had my next show

6:08

already done scripts, deals closed, and

6:10

they said we're shooting this in

6:12

New York, and I said I'm

6:14

not moving to New York to

6:16

do this, and then it went

6:18

away. The show's done, not doing

6:21

it. Wow. It's like... No shit.

6:23

Yeah, I'm not doing it. I'm

6:25

not doing it. too expensive to

6:27

shoot here. There are no tax

6:29

credits. So, like, all those other

6:31

places are offering 40%. Yeah. 40%.

6:33

And then on top of that,

6:35

there's other stuff that they do.

6:37

Yeah. And then, that's not even

6:40

talking about the union stuff. That's

6:42

just tax economics of it all.

6:44

So it's, it's, it's, it's criminal.

6:46

What, what, what the California and

6:48

LA have let happen, it's criminal.

6:50

Everybody should be fired. It's a

6:52

bummer we have our office on

6:54

Radford lot where we used to

6:56

shoot parks. Yes. And it is

6:59

quiet over there. Quiet. That place

7:01

when we were shooting our show.

7:03

My God, everything, every stage was

7:05

filled and working and it's really

7:07

weird. Super, super weird. I love

7:09

that little lot. Me too. It

7:11

was a good little lot. Congratulations

7:13

and severance. Thank you. The running.

7:15

It's a lot of running. The

7:17

running. A lot of running. And

7:20

I know we've talked a lot

7:22

in the past about our mutual

7:24

appreciation for Tom Cruise. Yeah. And

7:26

you finally got your moment. You

7:28

finally got your moment to pay

7:30

homage to the Masters. I did.

7:32

You know, and Ben Stiller also

7:34

has an affinity for Tom Cruise.

7:36

Oh, obviously. I mean, is there

7:39

anything better than him playing Tom

7:41

Cruise? Yeah. And then him. providing

7:43

the kind of platform for Tom

7:45

Cruise to play. Is it loose?

7:47

Grossman, is that the name? Lex

7:49

Grossman? Lex Grossman? I think, yeah.

7:51

Amazing. So yeah, so yeah, all

7:53

that running. There's no way, if

7:55

you're running that much in a

7:57

suit, there's no way you avoid

8:00

any sort of comparison that Tom

8:02

Cruise, because he's the king. It's

8:04

what he does. It is what

8:06

he does really, really, really well.

8:08

Okay, so what is your, because

8:10

I know my takeaway is. Yeah,

8:12

from Tom Cruise, Ron, Ron. Oh,

8:14

okay. Tell me. What is, well,

8:16

no, no, no, you just did

8:19

it. I haven't had the opportunity

8:21

to sue. Well, I did Chris

8:23

Trager run, but it was never,

8:25

that was a whole other thing.

8:27

I ran a lot as Chris

8:29

Trager. Yeah, you did. And you

8:31

also ran, would run in place.

8:33

You would hang upside down. I

8:35

did a lot of that, but

8:38

I never channeled my Tom. Yeah.

8:40

Well, what I find something that

8:42

he does that's incredibly impressive is

8:44

he's. You know, like at one

8:46

point when we were shooting the

8:48

opening sequence for the first episode

8:50

of season two, we did a

8:52

bunch of different stuff and at

8:54

one point I was on a

8:56

treadmill with a harness connected to

8:59

me and the treadmill, what we

9:01

found was there was some uncanny

9:03

valley thing that would start happening

9:05

because if you're on a treadmill,

9:07

you're running a consistent speed. You're

9:09

not... There's no variation in your

9:11

speed. Whereas if someone is actually

9:13

running, there's constant variation in speed

9:15

that isn't even perceptible to the

9:18

human eye, but you clock it

9:20

when you're watching Tom Cruise run.

9:22

There's something very human about it

9:24

because he's actually doing it. So

9:26

we found that in order for

9:28

it to be realistic, I had

9:30

to sort of run around on

9:32

the... on the treadmill just to

9:34

make it inconsistent. It was super

9:37

interesting, but then, or bordering on

9:39

interesting, you're welcome. The thing about

9:41

Tom Cruise is he's so consistent,

9:43

it's almost as if he is

9:45

on a treadmill because you watch

9:47

him, and it is just, yeah,

9:49

and those knees are coming way

9:51

up. The knees are coming away,

9:53

and the main thing is his

9:55

torso, upper torso does not move.

9:58

That's right. And he, it's almost

10:00

as if the upper torso is

10:02

just sitting in a chair doing

10:04

this. Yeah. That's right, and it's

10:06

just his arms and legs moving.

10:08

And just his arms and legs

10:10

are moving. But he's also always

10:12

in really uncomfortable clothes for running.

10:14

He's not in like athletic gear

10:17

and he has like dress shoes

10:19

on. But then he's also as,

10:21

you know, added in jumping from

10:23

building to building and all this

10:25

other cool stuff. I heard that

10:27

because the sets weren't all built

10:29

that you had to run over

10:31

the course. You'd still do the

10:33

running scene like episode six. You're

10:36

like, oh, we're doing a little

10:38

pickup from episode five months ago,

10:40

whatever. Yeah, it was whenever someone

10:42

would come up and ask me

10:44

to remind them which color gatorade

10:46

I liked, I knew we were

10:48

going to do some running the

10:50

next day. It's amazing. So we

10:52

had our own little rap party

10:54

for the running sequence, like five

10:57

or six months in. Oh, I

10:59

like that. I like multiple. I

11:01

like rap parties during... Yes. You

11:03

know I know you were very

11:05

nice for texting me after the

11:07

Copala interview. What a great interview

11:09

that was. He had, the reason,

11:11

and the reason I bring it

11:13

up is on Outsiders, we had

11:16

a rap party every week. You

11:18

did? Like what do you mean?

11:20

Well we'd wrap the week. Just

11:22

like we finished another week. Let's

11:24

have a rap party. And for

11:26

a lot of you, this was

11:28

like the first real big thing.

11:30

I thought, listen it was my

11:32

first movie, I thought at the

11:35

end of every week, the end

11:37

of every week, the director goes

11:39

into the catering truck. and cooks

11:41

pasta. Oh man. While the crew

11:43

waits around, right, for him to

11:45

come and sign off on a

11:47

shot. Right. But he's like, yeah,

11:49

I just gotta boil this water

11:51

and I got a little more

11:53

parsley, I gotta get in. Did

11:56

you guys just chill for a

11:58

little bit? I thought, I thought

12:00

that's how you made movies. Wow.

12:02

Wow. That's so cool. It was

12:04

really unbelievable. It was so fun

12:06

listening to you guys because it's

12:08

so clear that you remember every

12:10

nook and cranny of that experience.

12:12

It's all stored up there. Yeah.

12:15

Oh yeah. As is when you're

12:17

young, you remember everybody's names, their

12:19

faces. Like I remembered his, the

12:21

assistant video technician on a heed.

12:23

Yeah, you named her in the

12:25

interview and he was like, who.

12:27

Yeah, like we remember that remember

12:29

like like today. We can't remember

12:31

anybody now nothing I literally I

12:34

can't remember. I barely know who

12:36

your name is Totally, but also

12:38

I think it's also because it

12:40

was such a formative experience for

12:42

you You're not forgetting any details.

12:44

No, no, no, no, no and

12:46

the outsiders the it's the outsiders

12:48

like it is a seminal movie

12:50

for all of us Thank you

12:52

so important And also all you

12:55

guys that are in it, it's

12:57

just, it's one of those, I

12:59

think it even outranks dazed and

13:01

confused as one of those casts

13:03

that just can't be beat. It's

13:05

unbelievable. And probably the first time

13:07

Tom ran. Yeah, he did do

13:09

some running in the outsiders, didn't

13:11

he? Did a back flip off

13:14

of a car. And the thing

13:16

that was interesting about Francis is

13:18

I didn't want to, I didn't

13:20

want to like... Ask

13:22

all of the harder questions that

13:24

I wanted to. Like, I heard

13:26

that we lost the financing during

13:28

it, and that's why we had

13:31

a month of rehearsal. Right. She

13:33

didn't want to let us go

13:35

home. Right. And so do you

13:37

think he was just like paying

13:39

for hotel rooms for all you

13:41

guys and just keeping you there?

13:43

I'm pretty sure. Crossing his fingers

13:45

that the financing for the movie

13:47

would. That's right. I'm pretty sure.

13:49

And like then it was like,

13:51

you know, I think you guys

13:53

should really study gymnastics gymnastics. Which

13:55

we did. Yeah, sure. By the

13:57

way, and again, like Tai Chi,

13:59

which I did ask him on

14:01

thinking, I go, what does Tai

14:03

Chi have to do? with being

14:05

a grease or was like a

14:07

big thing in Tulsa and the

14:10

Cetes, but like that's the magic

14:12

of him. But it was all

14:14

about getting you guys in sync

14:16

with each other and because it

14:18

really does, it comes across on

14:20

screen that you guys are really

14:22

kind of family and relying on

14:24

each other. So that must be

14:26

what the Tai Chi was about

14:28

to get you guys like in

14:30

sync or something? I mean, I

14:32

think it was just giving us

14:34

something we had to wake up

14:36

for in the mornings. Yes. So

14:38

we weren't just ruckusing. Putting some

14:40

structure out there for your day.

14:42

Yeah, I think, I think there

14:44

was a lot. Yeah, there was

14:46

a lot of that. All right,

14:49

I need to ask you about,

14:51

what, was it Hardcastle McCormick? What

14:53

was the opening, the, oh, the,

14:55

the opening credits? Yeah, I'm obsessed

14:57

with that. It was, we did

14:59

Simon and Simon, John Hamm and

15:01

I, Hardcastle on McCormick is such

15:03

a good call. That would have

15:05

been a good one I wanted

15:07

you to do. I wanted you

15:09

to do. that I was lobbying

15:11

really hard for was SWAT. That's

15:13

right. That's right. Because it has

15:15

some of the worst, they keep

15:17

cutting to, it's a van. Yeah.

15:19

It does, I don't even think

15:21

it has, there's nothing, it looks

15:23

like a UPS truck. Yeah. And

15:25

it's so clear that they're just

15:28

rocking it. Right. It's not skidding

15:30

out. It's just a van rocking

15:32

and then... Are you talking about

15:34

like them driving it and the

15:36

van being rocked while they're driving

15:38

and the wide shots of it

15:40

just going down the street? Correct.

15:42

Is that crashing? And then each

15:44

character gets their freeze-frame moment? Yeah.

15:46

Everybody please pull up the theme

15:48

from SWAT right now and look

15:50

at the worst Texas switch in

15:52

the history of cinema. So the

15:54

Texas switch is, as you know,

15:56

when a stuntman like... Comes through

15:58

a window and drops out of

16:00

frame and then the actor who's

16:02

been there the whole time pops

16:04

up as if it was them

16:06

really bad. Like, is the, because

16:09

the timing has to be right.

16:11

Well, it has to be off

16:13

a little, right? Or if it's

16:15

too perfect, it's fake. Right. And

16:17

if it's, if it's not, if

16:19

it's too long, it's, it's like,

16:21

you really have to nail it.

16:23

If it's like immediate, it's obviously

16:25

fake. Yeah. Busting through it with

16:27

a gun, shattering it, dropping out

16:29

a frame, and the actor comes

16:31

up with the gun, when it's

16:33

so... That's fantastic. And then I

16:35

think they do another one of

16:37

a guy repelling. Wow. And he

16:39

repels and repels and repels and

16:41

repels, and then it cuts to

16:43

the actors clearly already on the

16:45

ground. Yeah, and he just turns

16:48

around. Oh, that's great. I love

16:50

that stuff so much. I would

16:52

love to do that. I would

16:54

love to do more of those.

16:56

It's the greatest. Oh God, that's

16:58

SWAT. That's such a good idea.

17:00

And the song is written by

17:02

my neighbor. Really? I remember it

17:04

was top. Who's your neighbor? Bury

17:06

divorce on. And he also wrote,

17:08

in the city. Oh, wow. The

17:10

Eagles? Wow. And Nadia's theme. What's

17:12

Nadia's theme? You're too old, young

17:14

for this. It was the Nadia

17:16

Cominich. Oh, in the Olympics. And

17:18

she had her own theme. It's

17:20

very sad. Did they play it

17:22

while she was skating? No, she

17:24

was a gymnast. Oh, she was

17:27

a gymnast. It was all very

17:29

sad. And it's like when they

17:31

would do the slowmows of her.

17:33

It was very... Wow. Yeah. And

17:35

everyone was in love with her.

17:37

Oh, everyone. Everyone. Those were the...

17:39

So I want to redo that

17:41

stuff. Yeah. It's fun going back

17:43

and looking at all that stuff.

17:58

So you're obsessed like I think

18:00

I am with, um, there used

18:02

to be theme songs. One of

18:04

the things I love about parks

18:07

and rec, me too, is that

18:09

we had a theme. Yep. And

18:11

now they don't do it because

18:13

they're worried about story, they'd rather

18:15

have the time for the storytelling.

18:17

Yeah, um, yeah. I loved, and

18:19

I also loved that a lot

18:21

of the opening credit sequences were

18:23

made up of clips from the

18:25

shows like parks was as well,

18:27

because as a fan of the

18:29

show, it was sort of a...

18:31

a thing that's put together for

18:33

you of all the like fun

18:35

moments from the show. That was

18:37

really fun too, but you're right,

18:39

like the actual songs. It's just

18:41

a lost art, kind of. Because

18:43

often it was completely separate from

18:45

the show. The network would hire

18:48

like a jingle writer, like your

18:50

neighbor, to come in and come

18:52

up with something super catchy. I

18:54

remember being in the... the recording

18:56

stage when a full orchestra did

18:58

the West Wing theme. That was

19:00

amazing. Now can I ask you

19:02

a question? Was that, was that

19:04

a certain ways into the first

19:06

season? Because I seem to remember

19:08

the first few episodes it was

19:10

like synthesizer to sound like strings

19:12

and then they were able, they

19:14

got the budget to actually do

19:16

strings later. That could very well

19:18

be. You know, that could be,

19:20

it was the theme was always,

19:22

was always the theme. The same,

19:24

yeah. And yeah, because, and I

19:26

think you're right, it was, it

19:28

would have been since, because nobody

19:31

wants to pay. And what a

19:33

theme. What? Oh, I mean. Oh

19:35

my God. I mean, again, again,

19:37

it's like, snuffy, it's, yeah, snuffy

19:39

walta. But like, in like the

19:41

sopran, it's like, it's like, it's

19:43

like, it's the same, it's a,

19:45

it's a, it's a, it's a,

19:47

it's a, it's a, it's a,

19:49

it's a, it's a, it's a,

19:51

it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's,

19:53

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

19:55

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

19:57

it's, it's, it's, it's Yes, you

19:59

remember it. Yes. Are you are

20:01

you aware of when the cast

20:03

negotiated to have their mention added

20:05

to the theme which is my

20:07

favorite thing ever is like that's

20:09

a cat that came from the

20:12

cast well you got it you

20:14

would think because it was literally

20:16

They go through the whole litany

20:18

of who's on the boat, right?

20:20

Yeah. The skipper, Marian, the professor,

20:22

the movie star and his wife.

20:24

Yeah. The professor. Oh, no, no,

20:26

no, no, no. Originally, it was

20:28

the movie star and the rest.

20:30

There are two more people. Two

20:32

more people. And the rest. And

20:34

the rest. I would have been

20:36

pissed, too. Pissed. Yeah. And the

20:38

rest. The rest. How hard would

20:40

it be? Are you referring to

20:42

me? I'm the rest? Yeah, just,

20:44

just, just, just, guys. And then,

20:46

of course, then it became the,

20:48

the, the, the professor, and Marianne.

20:50

No, no, it was originally in

20:53

the rest. So the professor and

20:55

Marianne. Not mentioned. Wow. That's my

20:57

favorite. For me, that's the most

20:59

memorable part of the song, is

21:01

the professor and Marianne. By the

21:03

professor and Marianne. By the this

21:05

parking garages now was the lagoon

21:07

where they shot all of that

21:09

stuff. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. When

21:11

I first came to California as

21:13

a kid, a wide-eyed, bright-eyed, wanting

21:15

to be an actor, I remember

21:17

being on a bus coming in

21:19

for an audition, going up La

21:21

Sienega. Yeah. And I saw Alan

21:23

Hale's lobster barrel. Yeah. And I

21:25

was like, wow, you've made it.

21:27

You've made it when you're a

21:29

TV your series is in your

21:31

six and you've opened a lobster

21:34

barrel out your you have so

21:36

much money You don't know what

21:38

to do with it and Carol

21:40

O'Connor's the gingerman people don't do

21:42

that anymore. Why do why? What

21:44

was the gingerman? What was the

21:46

that was in Beverly Hills? That

21:48

wasn't Los Angeles Hollywood. Carol O'Connor's?

21:50

Ginger man. It was like in

21:52

the heart of Beverly Beverly Beverly

21:54

Hills like Rodeo drive And it

21:56

was kind of like a... It

21:58

was a bistro. Yeah, and because

22:00

he was the biggest television star

22:02

in the world. In the world,

22:04

yeah. Wow. Nobody does that anymore.

22:06

No. I think that the idea

22:08

or if they're investing in restaurants,

22:10

they're like a silent partner because

22:12

they don't want everyone to know

22:15

they lost all their money. That's

22:17

right. When it goes under. Yeah.

22:19

Yeah. Yeah. The two lost things

22:21

that I mourn of the many

22:23

things. Yeah. I mourn. Yeah. Is

22:25

the lost art of, you know,

22:27

James Gandalfini meatball shack. Yeah. The

22:29

celebrity. That's great. And the celebrity

22:31

softball teams. Yeah, that was fun.

22:33

I mean, it was fun to,

22:35

to, to watch. Did you do

22:37

those? I did. I was, but

22:39

I was with my small time

22:41

agency, a softball team. Okay. And

22:43

right agency. Oh, well, everyone knows

22:45

the end, right. Don't we all?

22:47

Yeah. And, and, uh, but you'd

22:49

always get beat by, um, the

22:51

Gary Marshall Happy Days and Lavern

22:53

and Shirley teams. They were where

22:56

it would murder you. My wife

22:58

and her friends are really in

23:00

the pickleball right now. Where they

23:02

go and play pickleball sometimes is

23:04

Gary Marshall's old place in Burbank,

23:06

right? And I go with her

23:08

sometimes to play and to hang

23:10

out. And we go in the

23:12

backyard and it's everything as it

23:14

was in Gary Marshall's. Wife is

23:16

so sweet and lets us go

23:18

back there, but you go into

23:20

the bathroom and there are frame

23:22

pictures of that softball team in

23:24

the bathroom No way. And he

23:26

would have the happy days cast

23:28

over all the time in that

23:30

backyard and these tennis court backyard

23:32

You did. Okay, I had a

23:34

basketball he had a weekend basketball

23:37

game. That's right. There are pictures

23:39

of that as well and the

23:41

basketball. Yeah, very serious stuff. Yeah,

23:43

they were not missing around I

23:45

get the sense that they were.

23:47

Oh, they were not. Yeah And

23:49

you don't picture Gary Marshall as

23:51

this gnarly athlete. You know, come

23:53

on and you'll drink while slab

23:55

a lap. And Memo is a

23:57

murderer. Really? On the basketball court?

23:59

Murder. Wow. And was Henry Winkler

24:01

playing? Yes, he was playing. And

24:03

you know, again, Parks and Recreation,

24:05

he is without a doubt, if

24:07

you voted on the most beloved

24:10

nicest man in show

24:12

business, he would win in a

24:14

landslide, right? 100%. 100%. And it's

24:17

100% real, too. And you hear

24:19

about how nice he is, and

24:21

then you meet him, and

24:23

it makes total sense,

24:26

because it's genuine, and he

24:28

is so kind. you know, 12-year-old me?

24:30

I know. That one day I'd be

24:32

working with the Fons? I know. I'd

24:35

be like, get the fuck out. Are

24:37

you kidding me? You know, one day

24:39

on the park set we were shooting

24:42

something and he, Billy Eichner and I,

24:44

were all chit-chatting and he started telling

24:46

us a story about when Happy Days

24:49

hit and they would do these autograph

24:51

signings and grocery store parking lots. And

24:53

for the first couple weeks, no one

24:56

was there. and they couldn't get anyone

24:58

to show up to these things. But

25:00

then one week it all changed and

25:02

the place was flooded with like

25:05

3,000 people. And it was this really

25:07

cool story. And then in the midst

25:09

of the story, he went into the

25:11

fawns and did the fawns for Billy

25:13

and I. Just as a tool to

25:15

tell the story correctly. And then they're

25:18

like, oh Henry, we need you over

25:20

here for blah blah blah. And he's

25:22

like, oh, excuse me guys. And he

25:24

walks away right after doing. the fawns

25:27

right and Billy and I were

25:29

like in shock we couldn't believe

25:31

that we had just seen this

25:33

happen to see the fawns do

25:35

his thing right in front of you

25:38

it was I'll never forget it

25:40

no you that's the thing is like

25:42

I what I love about what we

25:44

do and what I still get to

25:46

do you know or moments

25:48

like that yes where you're like oh

25:50

my god are you kidding me I know

25:53

It is, it is unbelievable. As Ty Cobb

25:55

said, it ain't bragging if you've done it.

25:57

Yeah, I was at dinner the other night.

26:00

And I was looking, you know, you notice

26:02

who's sitting around in there was a

26:04

table of, you know, sort of older

26:06

guy, you know, sort of stocky with

26:08

the wife, whatever, and I get up

26:10

to leave and he gets up and

26:13

gets right in my face and stops

26:15

me and says, I just want to

26:17

say hello and I really admire everything

26:19

you do and it's been a big

26:21

part of my life. Yeah. I don't think

26:23

that really means a lot to me

26:25

because I'm Casey, from Casey and the

26:28

sunshine band. Really. I was like,

26:30

and I'm instantly like, we

26:32

need to get a selfie. Can

26:34

I take a picture with you?

26:36

I need a 20-minute conversation with

26:38

you, boogie shoes. Wow. We're getting

26:40

down tonight. Casey and the sunshine

26:42

there. Wow. Wow. I mean, I'm saying, wait,

26:44

I'm sorry, you, what's like the great

26:46

story I told you, you always

26:49

love about Paul McCartney. Yes. It's

26:51

Mike Myers and I at dinner

26:53

with Lauren Michael. And Lauren goes,

26:55

oh, there's Paul over there. Paul

26:57

comes over there and goes, oh, what

26:59

do you guys do? I can't do

27:02

a Palm. I make Paul McCartney

27:04

sound like he's from India. You're a

27:06

really good mimic and impressionist though. You

27:08

always have, you have ones that

27:10

you wouldn't expect to. Sorry. Well, my

27:13

Paul McCartney is not one of them.

27:15

I thought that sounded great. Well, okay then.

27:17

There you go. What are you all doing

27:19

over here? Yeah. And we just did

27:21

the 25th anniversary screening. That's

27:24

a classic. Wow. I'm thinking wait

27:26

a minute, no, no. Sergeant Pepper's.

27:29

Yeah, yesterday. Pretty good.

27:31

Pretty good. Pretty good. Yeah, right,

27:33

but those are Wayne's world. Didn't

27:35

you also have a, uh, Telly

27:37

Savalas run in when you were

27:39

a little kid? Yeah, he fucked

27:41

me. Yeah, it's a great story.

27:43

If I ever do my one

27:45

man show again, you've got to

27:48

come. Oh, 100%. Because it's, because

27:50

it's, it's, it's a big. and

27:52

you're telling it's a big throwdown

27:54

part of love this yeah big

27:56

throwdown part of my one man shows my

27:58

telly so really oh great yeah It's this,

28:00

it's this, it's, it's, I'm living

28:02

in Dayton Ohio, I'm eight years

28:04

old, I want to be an

28:07

actor, it's the, it's 1974, whatever

28:09

it is, so that makes me

28:11

ten, sure. And co-jack is the

28:13

biggest show that's ever been, he's

28:15

big, he's as big as the

28:17

Fons, if not bigger. Yeah. And

28:19

he's coming to, dude. I mean,

28:21

that show, like 70 million people,

28:23

I don't know how many people

28:26

watch TV back then, but it.

28:28

And he's coming to Reich's

28:30

department store. Okay. Because that was

28:32

clearly a thing. Like I was interesting

28:34

to hear that the Fons do. I

28:36

guess if you were a TV store,

28:38

they needed two things. You opened a

28:40

restaurant. Yep. And you signed autographs at

28:42

department stores and parking lots. That's right.

28:45

Those are the places that were big

28:47

enough to like hold a bunch of

28:49

people. So he comes to Reichs. And

28:51

I convinced my mom to let me

28:54

get on the bus. Go see that

28:56

actor down at the department store. With

28:58

a bunch of grown-ups. It sounds great.

29:00

Wait in line. I get there and

29:03

I like, I take my allowance and

29:05

I buy him. Remember his thing was

29:07

he had the lollipop in his mouth all

29:09

the time? So I bought him a

29:12

lollipop to give to him. And the

29:14

line is he, I get there's huge.

29:16

And I wait in the line, it's

29:18

like two and half hours. I'm getting

29:20

closer. It's like two and it's like

29:22

two and a bunch of been. a big moment

29:24

seeing that it's a star. He's a

29:27

real person. He's a real person. He

29:29

also, by the way, did not take

29:31

propetia. Yeah, clearly. Didn't. That was not

29:33

a reverse propetia. It would have been

29:36

a career enter for him. Yeah. You

29:38

know, you know, there's the lid for every

29:40

pot. That's right. And his didn't have

29:42

hair on it. His had no hair.

29:44

No. And I'm getting closer and closer

29:47

and closer. I get to him. And

29:49

I get to him. And they put the

29:51

velvet rope. Right in front of me,

29:53

right in front of me. Mr.

29:55

Savalas has to go. And up he went

29:57

and off he went. Wow, not even a...

29:59

No, no, no, no, no, gone.

30:02

I get it. He's probably

30:04

under contract to go there

30:06

for an hour and a

30:08

half. It's an hour and

30:10

a half. Sure, but off

30:12

he goes. And I look

30:14

to his handler. Yeah. Excuse

30:17

me, sir. I'm like probably

30:19

two and half feet tall.

30:21

Would you mind giving that

30:23

to Mr. Savalas? I brought

30:25

it for him. I'm going

30:27

to give him the lollipop

30:29

that I bought for him.

30:31

His kid, absolutely, absolutely, I

30:33

will. That's really nice. and

30:36

I got on the escalator

30:38

to walk to go to

30:40

leave and as I turn

30:42

around to see the guy

30:44

throw it in the trash.

30:46

Oh, really? And that was

30:48

that was the my first.

30:50

Welcome to show business. Welcome

30:53

to show business. Wow. Through

30:55

it in the garbage. Garbage.

30:57

So whenever like in all

30:59

in all situations like whenever

31:01

like I have any interaction

31:03

with anybody. Yeah. I always

31:05

remember. Yeah. The telly Savalas

31:07

Garbage garbage. Oh, 100 percent.

31:09

You know, you know. You

31:12

think about... That sucks. I

31:14

just like now look back

31:16

and think of like little

31:18

Rob. Eight years old. Eight

31:20

years old. Took the bus.

31:22

I'm probably in like... On

31:24

his own volition went and

31:26

bought a fucking lollipop. Oh

31:28

buddy. What a drag! A

31:31

fucking lame. So that's why

31:33

I'm the jaded old cremogen

31:35

that I am. Well, it's

31:37

why you're nice. You know,

31:39

I mean, those lessons are

31:41

really good because you're like,

31:43

I never want to make

31:45

someone else feel like that,

31:47

you know. Do

31:52

you remember when we did the take

31:55

the parody of that where I was

31:57

the biggest dick in the world for

31:59

the promo for coming back on I

32:02

threw coffee in a seest face? Yeah.

32:04

Yeah. It was so fun. I don't

32:06

know like, I don't know people's, that

32:09

was really fun. Was it for when

32:11

we were off the air for nine

32:13

months? Yeah. Wow. By the way, what

32:15

a brilliant idea. I can't believe that

32:18

we got to do that together. I'm

32:20

so happy that. Well, we got to

32:22

go into the show at the exact

32:25

same time. There are certain things that

32:27

you remember. I remember waiting for our

32:29

cue. Me too. to walk into that

32:32

very first scene. Me too. Remember that?

32:34

That was our first scene on camera.

32:36

On camera, we're together. Yep. We're standing

32:39

behind the door. There's just met. Right?

32:41

Yep. Just meant there's somebody with a,

32:43

you know, a walkie talking. Yeah. And

32:45

then, and in we go, and it's

32:48

Ben, Ben Wyatt and Chris Trey. Yeah.

32:50

We didn't know what the fuck we

32:52

were doing. I didn't. Maybe you did.

32:55

I didn't. I remember after the first

32:57

take the first take, Dean Holland. So

32:59

it is like a mock documentary, you

33:02

know, that's what we're doing, but you

33:04

don't need to keep looking at the

33:06

camera. Like, you don't need to notice

33:08

it at all. We'll do like, like,

33:11

talking head interviews later and stuff, but

33:13

you don't need to, because I was,

33:15

I guess, acting like, why is this

33:18

camera man here? You know, that's amazing.

33:20

I didn't know what to do. No.

33:22

That's, yeah. Well, you were the master

33:25

of the look to camera. That ended

33:27

up, yeah, you're right, that, well, not

33:29

right that I was a master of

33:31

anything, but you're right that we did

33:34

end up doing the thing where we

33:36

would look at it at a camera

33:38

sometimes for like a punchline kind of

33:41

thing. Yeah, I think you were the

33:43

best at it. 100%. Very nice of

33:45

you to say. That was really, what

33:48

of great just five years that we

33:50

got to do that. Because we got

33:52

to, we came in two season, a

33:55

full two seasons into a show. I

33:57

did for a moment a podcast about

33:59

Parks and Rec and I had never

34:01

seen the show before we came on

34:04

it. I knew of it. Yeah. It's

34:06

so different. Oh yeah. It's like. It's

34:08

like, I don't even know what it

34:11

is. It's like, it's like an indie

34:13

movie. They really started finding it on

34:15

the road. Like in while, while they

34:18

were kind of figuring it out as

34:20

they went. And then even when we

34:22

came in, if you watch those early

34:24

episodes when we joined, I was a

34:27

total dick, but also just the kind

34:29

of speed, by the time we finished,

34:31

the show had sped up so much,

34:34

it was like. Six jokes a page,

34:36

like who's just going. Whereas when we

34:38

started, it's just interesting to see how

34:41

a show kind of evolves as it

34:43

goes. If people are interested in comedy

34:45

production, to pay attention to the editing

34:47

in Parks and Rec is, I mean,

34:50

they were micromanaging down to the frame.

34:52

Yeah. I mean, the thing I always

34:54

think about the most is the, and

34:57

I wish I'd have been in the

34:59

scene. I think you're in it where

35:01

they all have to go present something

35:04

on an ice rink and they have

35:06

to walk out to that stupid song.

35:08

I wasn't in it because that's the

35:11

episode where I'm doing claymation and you

35:13

come to help me out. Yeah. Yeah.

35:15

Yeah. How about that? How about an

35:17

episode? Well that's another one with the

35:20

editing is is cutting out the REM

35:22

song where they cut it out is

35:24

a laugh every time. And it's only

35:27

because of where they choose to cut

35:29

the song off. Yeah. It's perfect timing.

35:31

Totally. That's a great, that's also Cal,

35:34

that's, that's Calzone Zone. Yes, I think

35:36

so. I think it's Claymation and Calzone

35:38

Zone and you come over, I just

35:40

saw it the other day, someone showed

35:43

it to me and I hadn't seen

35:45

it in years and it's so sweet

35:47

that you're coming over to help me

35:50

out and telling me like, you need

35:52

to slow down. Like you're going crazy

35:54

and I'm like, what are you talking

35:57

about and I am I'm depressed you're

35:59

oh, you're saying you're you're deeply depressed.

36:01

Yes. Yes. But also the timing of

36:03

those camera Tom McGillan is team and

36:06

the timing of their moves really help,

36:08

you know, the cell responsible for so

36:10

many laughs too, you know. What I

36:13

love is born out of something that's

36:15

organic, your love for REM. Yeah, that's

36:17

right. Right? That's right. And again, the

36:20

cut where I go, you do, you,

36:22

you, you, you pitched to me the

36:24

Calzone zone zone. Yep. The low Calzone

36:27

zone zone zone. That's right. And I

36:29

go, that's amazing. Shotgun cut. That's the

36:31

worst idea. They just don't make them

36:33

like that. I know. They really don't

36:36

make... And let the show kind of

36:38

breathe and find itself. Yes. I don't

36:40

know if the show would last that

36:43

long now. Well, and also comedies today,

36:45

that kind of comedy is falling out

36:47

of favor. Now comedy, and look, I

36:50

like the bear as much as the

36:52

next person. It's not a laugh riot.

36:54

You know what I mean? It's a

36:56

different thing. Yeah, it's like a dramity,

36:59

I love, arrested. Development. Rested development is

37:01

so great. And 30 Rockham. Golden Age.

37:03

Incredible. Golden Age. Can you tell me

37:06

what you're doing in Ireland or is

37:08

a top secret? It's not. I'm doing

37:10

a thriller over there about trying to

37:13

think how to explain what it's about.

37:15

It's called Hocham. It's super interesting. Hopefully

37:17

it'll be scary. Um, and super weird.

37:19

That's all you need to say. I'm,

37:22

I'm, I'm, I'm taking one in Budapest.

37:24

Oh, cool. But you'll love this. The

37:26

reason I'm doing it is, uh, Christmas

37:29

Glover. No way. As an alien. Really?

37:31

Who, yeah, and I'm like, Christmas Glover,

37:33

Alien, in. 100% I mean, I'm not

37:36

crazy, right? But also getting to see

37:38

you and Chris and Glover together. I

37:40

mean, right, and all by the way,

37:43

it's independent film, I could walk out

37:45

of the studio today and maybe have

37:47

the financing fell through. Right. And I

37:49

may be in a couple of having

37:52

doing gymnastic lessons. Sure. But the fact

37:54

of the matter is, like, I think

37:56

you and I have the similar interest

37:59

in taste and weird. shit. Yeah. Like,

38:01

I you'd be down with Chris and

38:03

Chris and Glover's alien. Oh my God.

38:06

I would pay money to be anywhere

38:08

near that to see Chris and Glover

38:10

do anything. I mean, that's really have

38:12

you guys ever worked? Never. No, never.

38:15

But you were kind of in the

38:17

same circles or adjacent? We were adjacent.

38:19

I mean, the close. I would go

38:22

visit Eric Stoltz on the set of

38:24

back to the future. Before he was

38:26

replaced by Michael J. Fox. You were

38:29

on the set for the Eric Stoltz

38:31

version. I was. We were shooting St.

38:33

Elmo's Fire and they were in the

38:35

back lot doing the diner. Yeah. And

38:38

we were shooting St. Elmo's which I

38:40

thought we were doing a sequel to.

38:42

Are you really? Yes. Because of did

38:45

Bratz help? And it was just like,

38:47

yes, they're doing this. We are doing

38:49

it. The script is being written. Oh,

38:52

that is. And everybody is, we may

38:54

need you to come to be a

38:56

cameo. Oh, I would do anything. I

38:59

could be a waiter at the restaurant.

39:01

You should be the waiter who's really

39:03

just milking it. Sure. You should have

39:05

moved on. But you're kind of like

39:08

hanging out. You're kind of like hanging

39:10

out. Keep checking to see if you

39:12

guys are OK. Yeah. Wow. Wow. That

39:15

is so fun. That is so fun.

39:17

Yeah, I mean, we listen, the script

39:19

has to come in and we all

39:22

have to like it, but everybody wants

39:24

to do it. Everybody's on board. Everybody's

39:26

on board. It was so satisfying seeing

39:28

everybody, almost everybody, in Andrew McCarthy's movie,

39:31

and everybody looks great, everybody's happy, and

39:33

yeah, family, just having a good life.

39:35

Yes. Because for us who grew up

39:38

with those movies, it's like seeing family

39:40

or... old friends or whatever. It was

39:42

really, really special. Yeah, and yeah, it

39:45

was great. It was great. Yeah, my

39:47

little son John Owen, who you met

39:49

when he was like, you were so

39:51

nice. Everybody is obsessed with the Catalina

39:54

wine mixer. And it's not just, it's

39:56

not just my kids. I mean, everybody

39:58

is, I still, I can't. across it

40:01

on my phone that you were nice

40:03

enough to say, fucking cattle and mix

40:05

for John Owen. For John Owen for

40:08

his birthday. I just ran into John

40:10

Owen at a concert like six months

40:12

ago. He's like a big fancy Netflix

40:15

creator now. It's crazy what's happened with

40:17

that kid. Grown up. He's grown up.

40:19

Why was it talking about John Owen?

40:21

Why did I bring that stupid kid

40:24

up? I don't know. You said I

40:26

did a Catalina wine mixer video. Oh

40:28

yeah, yeah, yeah. But he he's just

40:31

he just loves you so much. And

40:33

you you always been great with kids.

40:35

You're how old are your kids now?

40:38

18 and 16. Graham is graduating high

40:40

school this year going to school in

40:42

the fall. Frankie is 16. I know

40:44

they were like little kids. Little kids.

40:47

Remember our Halloween parties? Yeah. They're so

40:49

sweet, so sweet. Yeah. All the parks

40:51

kids are grown up. They're all grown

40:54

up, but they would come and walk

40:56

through the set and there would be

40:58

candy for them to go. It was

41:01

so sweet, every Halloween. I loved that

41:03

we would literally shut the show down.

41:05

I know. And have a Halloween parade,

41:08

like they do at school. That's what

41:10

you're right. It was a Halloween parade.

41:12

The Parks and Rec Halloween parade? Yep.

41:14

God damn it. We need to go

41:17

back and... How fun was that? Those

41:19

were great, but listen, now you're a

41:21

fancy streaming guy, fuck. You're going to

41:24

do. Now we're streaming people. You're winning

41:26

P-bodies and shit. I mean, you know,

41:28

you've forgotten where you came from. There's

41:31

something so that I miss so much,

41:33

which is why I never watch parks,

41:35

because it just makes me sad. Yes,

41:37

yes. It makes me just miss everybody

41:40

and miss the... and I don't feel

41:42

like I ever took it for granted,

41:44

because I was... Always appreciative of how

41:47

fun and like how lucky we were

41:49

but It was just such a great

41:51

place to go every day and just

41:54

having that job Was we're really lucky.

41:56

It was really fun. Well, I I

41:58

also Not every job Has the

42:00

long lasting friendships either.

42:02

That's true. That kind of connection.

42:04

Yeah, you know, it's a look. It's

42:06

a little mercenary sometimes. Yeah, and parks

42:09

is like, you know, you and Pratt

42:11

and Amy and I mean, just everybody,

42:13

Aubrey, everybody. It's like we're all we're

42:15

all in our thread. We're all there

42:17

for each other. Yeah. And I and

42:19

I love that. I think that's a

42:21

function of the kind of the kind

42:24

of shows that Mike Sherr puts together

42:26

as well. Yeah, the fact that Mike

42:28

and Amy were really kind of

42:30

spearheading the show and the tone

42:32

on the on the set and

42:34

everything was really healthy and fun.

42:36

And Ben's still should learn how

42:38

to run a show, I think.

42:40

I gotta talk a little bit about

42:43

that. I'm such a big Ben fan.

42:45

Yeah. I mean, the best. You can

42:47

do it all. Yeah. There's nothing he

42:49

can't do. He might, I mean, I

42:51

don't want to say he's unheralded because

42:53

he's gotten his flowers as he should.

42:56

That said, I think he should get

42:58

more flowers. I agree. I think he's

43:00

one of our great filmmakers. Like when

43:02

I saw Escape at Dana Mora,

43:04

I couldn't, but I was like, have

43:07

I ever seen anything this good? Like

43:09

this is. Yes. Great. Agreed. And

43:11

the director was invisible. It

43:13

felt like we're watching a

43:15

movie from 1976. You know,

43:18

like a great movie from

43:20

nineteen. Yeah, I completely agree.

43:22

And I think that it's

43:24

nice to see these getting

43:26

the credit he deserves for

43:28

what he's been doing. It's

43:30

amazing. I mean, everybody talks

43:33

about it. But I was with,

43:35

you know, Downey, the drinking

43:37

his trophy run. I did a

43:39

lot of like. Q and A is for

43:42

that for you. Oh, great. Great. That must

43:44

have been fun. It was in my high

43:46

school English class. Yeah. I mean, you know,

43:48

history. Sorry, high school history. But we would

43:50

talk about how amazing Tropic Thunder

43:52

is and like, that he could

43:54

in Zulander, which is the, they're

43:56

literally my favorite comedies and that

43:59

he can go and do. severance, which

44:01

is like there's nothing in that

44:03

work that would lead anybody to

44:05

believe he's the perfect guy for

44:07

severance. I totally agree. And Danamore,

44:09

like those two things, and then

44:11

you put it up next to

44:14

reality bites or Tropic Thunder or

44:16

Zoolander, it's wild and or Walter

44:18

Midi even, is another thing that's

44:20

completely separate from all those things.

44:22

Yeah, it's and just as an

44:24

actor too to have a director

44:27

like Ben who is so You

44:29

know kind of seeing the entire

44:31

board that sees the matrix or

44:33

whatever you want to however you

44:35

want to refer to it You

44:37

don't have to worry about because

44:40

you know as an actor sometimes

44:42

a director asks you to do

44:44

something and you're like okay, but

44:46

The car is going 40 miles

44:48

an hour, right? If I do

44:50

the thing you're asking is it

44:53

gonna seem a little silly because

44:55

she's doing whatever you're thinking of

44:57

eight things 100% self-preservation it's called

44:59

that's right and sometimes you can

45:01

see when in a director's eye

45:03

that they haven't thought of any

45:06

of it Yes, boy isn't it

45:08

true you get the like you

45:10

know that they literally haven't thought

45:12

of it sure and you know

45:14

sometimes it's experienced whatever it is

45:16

so you know When you have

45:19

a director who you know has

45:21

thought of everything and beyond that

45:23

to things you'll never think that

45:25

you wouldn't even consider That's right

45:27

You can just trust that you

45:29

just focus on this one thing

45:32

and for me at least that's

45:34

a that's a huge kind of

45:36

That trust is is essential. Yeah,

45:38

yeah, well, I'm psy that you

45:40

get such a great opportunity and

45:42

you're crushing it. Thanks, buddy. This

45:45

has been great Yeah, thank you

45:47

for having me. Love you buddies.

45:49

Love you too. Well this is

45:51

fun. Yeah! Great to see you.

45:53

for another five hours, but I

45:55

know you have valuable time and

45:58

I appreciate you listening and I

46:00

didn't want to keep you any

46:02

longer than I already have because

46:04

I love that man and he

46:06

just makes me laugh just everything

46:08

about him. So thanks for listening

46:11

and thank you Adam, love you,

46:13

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46:15

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46:36

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46:39

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46:41

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46:43

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46:47

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46:49

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46:56

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46:58

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