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Living. The
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discovery was completely
1:08
unexpected. In 1708, a
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construction crew began renovations on
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an old English manner known
1:15
as Minster Lovell Hall. As
1:17
they worked, the men discovered something
1:20
strange. It was a secret panel
1:22
in one of the walls, which,
1:24
when opened, revealed a hidden vault.
1:27
And not just any vault, but
1:29
a cell. What was the giveaway, you
1:31
ask? Well, that would be the human
1:33
skeleton, sitting upright at a small table,
1:35
with the remains of a dog lying
1:37
at its feet. The grizzly scene remained
1:40
only for a moment. As soon as
1:42
the remains were exposed to fresh air,
1:44
they disintegrated into dust. Now, a
1:46
sight like that would be terrifying enough on
1:49
its own. But what made it all the more
1:51
chilling was the house's history. You see,
1:53
it had once belonged to Lord
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Francis Lovell, one of the most
1:57
politically powerful men in England. At
2:00
least he had been. Until the
2:02
year 1487, when, following a defeat
2:04
on the battlefield, he vanished without
2:06
a trace. Naturally, as soon as
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word of the skeleton got out,
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rumors began to circulate. There were
2:13
whispers that Francis Lovell had, after
2:15
his disappearance, returned to Minster Lovell
2:17
Hall to hide in the secret
2:19
room. But when the servant feeding
2:22
him perished, the disgraced Lord was
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left to die a slow and
2:26
agonizing death of starvation. Trapped within...
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his own walls. And to be
2:30
fair historians aren't so sure about
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that last one. Most say that
2:35
following the battle he more than
2:37
likely fled to Scotland or drowned
2:39
while trying to cross the river
2:41
Trent. The truth is we'll never
2:44
know exactly what happened to the
2:46
Lost Lord. The bones in the
2:48
vault were never identified and no
2:50
other trace of level has ever
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been found. But when a man
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is high on the political ladder
2:57
as Lord Francis Lovell mysteriously disappears,
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it's bound to garner a few
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tall tales, tales that grow and
3:03
twist, and take on lives of
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their own. Lovell wasn't the first
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powerful man to be rewritten by
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folklore, and he wouldn't be the
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last. But if a lord can
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give rise to such a legend,
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then what about a king? I'm
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Aaron Mankey, and this is Lore.
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In 2014, the late great sci-fi
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writer Ursula Kayla Quinn delivered a
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now famous speech at the National
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Book Awards. We live in capitalism,
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she said. Its power seems inescapable.
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So did the divine rights of
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kings. Any human power can be
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resisted and changed by human beings.
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It's an inspiring reminder that the
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systems dictating our lives may be
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more changeable than we think. On
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the other hand, if you're a
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ruler desperate to stay in power,
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that's not so much inspiring as
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it is threatening. Threatening enough in
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fact that for thousands of years,
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those in charge have learned a
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very specific bit of mythology, that
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the power wielded by kings, emperors,
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and pharaohs is not a human
4:08
power at all. It began way
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back at the start of human
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civilization, when early hunter-gatherer societies were
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led by shamans, and these shamans,
4:17
while they just so happened to
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be the only qualified intermediaries between
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physical and spiritual realms. In other
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words, being the head honcho, meant
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connection to the divine. This idea,
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that political power is linked to
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the gods, took off like wildfire,
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and it's easy to understand why.
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After all if you can convince
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your subjects that your rule is
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divinely ordained, then to challenge your
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leadership is nothing short of insulting
4:45
the gods themselves. Pretty convenient way
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to avoid political opposition, right? Now,
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this belief took different forms in
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different cultures. In some, they claim
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that their rulers literally were gods.
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In ancient Egypt, for example, the
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pharaohs were believed to be gods
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in human form, often associated with
5:04
the Falcon-headed god Horace. In the
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ancient Iranian Zoroastrian religion, the king
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was believed to be a direct
5:11
descendant of the sky god Ahuramazda.
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And in the Greco-Roman period, rulers
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were often high priests while alive
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and became deified after death. In
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other cultures, the kings weren't considered
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gods themselves per se, but rather
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formerly vouched for by the gods.
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Think of it like a presidential
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endorsement from the great beyond. Everywhere
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from Malaysia to the Philippines to
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South India and to ancient Jewish
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Israelites had some version of this
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idea. If you were a king,
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it meant the gods had specifically
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chosen you to be an agent
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of their will. A perfect example
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of this type of godly cheerleading
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can be found in an ancient
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Chinese concept called the mandate of
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heaven. In this case, heaven itself
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would bless the Emperor's authority, which
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is not to say that he
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could do whatever he wanted. No,
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if the Emperor were to behave
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poorly or fail to maintain order,
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heaven would be just as fast
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to yank that blessing away. Emperors
6:14
in Japan also followed a mandate
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of heaven, but theirs was a
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little more hardcore. The right to
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rule in Japan was said to
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come from Amatarasu, the Shinto son
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goddess, and unlike in China, the
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power she granted was absolute. That's
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right, no punishment for misbehaving this
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time. Anything the Emperor said or
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did was considered divine law. It
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sounds a little dodgy, in a dictator
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kind of way, right? Well, luckily, Japanese
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emperors were a bit like the
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British royal family today. That is,
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they were more mascots than political
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powers. Regents, high-ranking ministers, and sometimes
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even retired emperors, were the ones
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who are really calling the shots.
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And the Roman Catholics had their own
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version of divine mandate, called the two
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swords, in which sword number one was
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the Pope, and sword number two was
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royalty, the former to rule in matters
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of the spirit and the latter in
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matters of the earth. But all of
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that changed during the Protestant
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Reformation in the 16th century. Now get
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ready, because a hot new way to
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be king just dropped, and it's called
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the divine right of kings. You may have
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heard of it. In fact, I know you
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have because I just mentioned it in that
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Ursula K. Lagoon quote just a couple of
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minutes ago. And the divine right of
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kings flipped everything on its head. Suddenly,
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instead of a ruler rising to power
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and then the gods deciding to click
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the donate now button, kings were pre-selected
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before they were even born. But not
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by God. No, humans selected a baby
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that would be king. And then it
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was God's job to sort of... plop
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a divine ruler's spirits into that random
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baby's body. So say that you were
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King Charles I of England and your
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wife Henrietta was pregnant. You knew that
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child would be king and God knew it
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too. So he'd come and place a king's
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soul inside the infant in preparation.
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Then when little Charles II is
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born, he arrives already pre-approved by
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God, and as such, isn't subject
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to any earthly authority, not the
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will of the people, the aristocracy,
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the church, or any other realm.
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With this handy little arrangement, anyone
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who attempts to dethron the king
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or restrict the monarchy's power isn't
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just rising against the state. Oh
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no, in the eyes of the
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law, they would be rising against
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God himself. From the very beginning
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of time, Royals have prayed upon
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superstition and faith to maintain their
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control. They've invented elaborate initiation rituals,
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developed intricate rules around who could
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and could not inherit the throne.
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Countless stories, all invented to grip
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tightly to one tenuous resource. Power.
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And if the legends are to
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be believed, sometimes they refused to
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relinquish that power. even in death.
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The young couple was sick of
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central London's grime. Sick of the
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dampness, sick of the constant smell
9:03
of smoke that clung perpetually to
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their clothes and hair. And so
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when they saw that a small
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suburban villa was available to purchase
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near Kensington Gardens, they jumped at
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the opportunity. The sprawling meadows and
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verdant treetops encircling Nottingham House, as
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the property was called, was like
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something out of a dream. And
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so in the year 1689, they
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bought it and began renovating it
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to their needs. I can't help
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but wonder if they still would
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have moved in had they known
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the truth, that their new home
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would one day become one of
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the most haunted houses in the
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world and that they would be
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the ones who haunt it. Okay,
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I admit this isn't just any
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young couple. Their names were William
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III and Mary II. And earlier
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that same year, they had been
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crowned King and Queen of England,
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ruling the nation side by side.
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And so when they began to
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renovate the villa, we aren't just
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talking about a mere screened-in porch
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renovation. Mary and William began transforming
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the humble property into a sprawling
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marvel they called Kensington Palace. Now,
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just because William and Mary shared
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the same throne, didn't mean their
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marriage was perfect. Far from it.
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William was famously irritable and difficult,
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while Mary had spent the last
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decade mourning two lost pregnancies. In
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a heartbreaking letter to a friend
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who had also lost a baby,
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Mary wrote, If one could hinder
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oneself setting one's heart too much
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upon those we love, we should
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be the readier to die. But
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ready or not, Mary sadly wouldn't
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be left with a choice, because
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in 1694, at only 32 years
10:50
old, the queen perished of smallpox
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right there in her bedchamber at
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Kensington Palace. She never did, produce
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an heir. William was left alone
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and bereft. But if the stories
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are true, the widower king may
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have been less alone than he
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thought. You see, the ghost of
11:08
Queen Mary II is said to
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still haunt the Queen's apartments at
11:13
Kensington Palace where she died, weeping
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through the cavernous halls for the
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children she never had and for
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her short, brutal life. The years
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went on. New Royals moved into
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the palace and lived and ruled
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and eventually died. With each new
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generation, the house shape shifted to
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accommodate the ever-changing family. It became
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more and more lavish under each
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new inhabitant. The property gardens, for
11:38
example, were designed for Queen Caroline.
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Queen Victoria spent her childhood there.
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When Victoria left to live in
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Buckingham Palace, Kensington was transformed into
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a home for minor royals, including
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Victoria's daughter, Princess Louise, and in
11:52
more modern times, Princess Diana,
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and even the
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Prince and Princess
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of Wales, William,
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and Kate. But
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despite the constantly changing residence, it
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seems that the house never
12:08
forgot a single one. Because
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while Queen Mary II's ghost may have been
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the first, it would be far from
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the last. Royals, it seems.
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Just don't know how to step down. Take
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the haunting of George II. He
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took the throne in June of
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1727 upon the death of his
12:26
father, King George I. A father
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whose funeral he flat out refused
12:30
to attend, mind you. Both Georges
12:32
were born in Hanover, Germany, you
12:34
see. And in an attempt to
12:36
win over England's trust as a
12:38
true Englishman, George II abstained from
12:40
attending his predecessor's German funeral. And
12:43
apparently it worked. Coupled with his ability
12:45
to speak English, something that his
12:47
father had never fully learned, George II
12:49
immediately won the loyalty and respect
12:51
of the English people. But you know
12:53
what they say, you can take
12:56
the king out of Hanover, but you can't
12:58
take Hanover out of the king. In
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1760, George II was sitting by
13:02
the window at Kensington Palace,
13:04
awaiting news from his native Hanover.
13:06
As he gazed forlornly out
13:09
at the grounds, he asked why
13:11
news had not come. But
13:13
before receiving an answer, the king
13:15
suffered an acute aortic dissection
13:17
and died on the spot. To
13:19
this day, King George II's phantom -like
13:21
face has been seen hovering at
13:23
that very same window. Some witnesses
13:26
even report hearing the voice of
13:28
King George II, asking in his
13:30
German accent, why don't they come?
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For Ghost No. 3, we have
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Princess Sophia, born in 1777, the
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12th out of 15 children,
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born from King George III and
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Queen Charlotte. And if you're
13:43
a Bridgerton fan, yes, that George
13:45
and Charlotte. Now, you'd
13:48
think that being one of 15
13:50
kids would have left Sophia sorely lacking
13:52
for a long time. But in
13:54
reality, the princess lived an incredibly sheltered
13:56
life. The king and queen were
13:58
overly protective of their daughters, you see.
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and so refused to let Sophia and
14:02
her sisters marry or even see
14:04
suitors when they came of age.
14:06
The princess lived out her life
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sequestered with her family, her only
14:11
moment of escaping being a secret
14:13
affair with a general that resulted
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in an illegitimate child taken from
14:17
her at birth. As Sophia got older, she
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began to lose her eyesight, first in her
14:21
right eye and then in her left. By
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1838, she was only able to see
14:26
light when she was outdoors. And it
14:28
may sound like a sad life, but
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by all accounts Sophia was still a
14:32
cheerful woman. She loved to spend many
14:35
happy hours behind her spinning wheel, although
14:37
even that she had to give up
14:39
when she went fully blind. At least
14:41
for a while. After her death in
14:43
1848, people at Kensington Palace began
14:45
to hear a strange sound. It
14:47
hummed through the dark, the unmistakable
14:49
music of a bobbin worrying, a
14:52
treadle peddling up and down, a
14:54
spoke wheel turning on its creaking
14:56
axle. Yes, there was no mistaking
14:58
it. These were the sounds of
15:00
a spinning wheel at work. Except
15:02
for one small problem. There was no
15:05
longer a spinning wheel. Anywhere at
15:07
the palace. Whether spinning yarn, gazing
15:09
out a window, or softly
15:11
weeping in their bedchambers, the
15:13
ghosts of Kensington Palace seemed
15:15
gentle enough. Maybe it's the serene
15:17
nature of the country house that keeps
15:19
them so docile. That very trait that
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had drawn Mary and William to it
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in the first place, all those generations
15:26
ago. But not
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all royal
15:32
ghosts
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are quite
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so friendly.
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In fact,
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some of
15:47
them are
15:49
downright murderous. They
15:52
was Denmark in
15:54
the year 987
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and Sven Haraldsen.
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More commonly known as Sven
16:01
Forkbeard due to his distinctive long
16:03
cleft beard, would have made any
16:05
fairy tale villain seem about as
16:08
threatening as a rubber ducky. This
16:10
guy was a violent warlord, with
16:12
no pity for the lives he
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crushed beneath his feet. To start,
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Forkbeard made his grand debut by
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overthrowing his own father to steal
16:20
the Danish throne. But Denmark wouldn't
16:22
be enough for him. Soon he
16:25
teamed up with Norway to invade
16:27
England too, only backing off when
16:29
the English King Ethel Red the
16:31
second bribed him with 16,000 pounds.
16:33
At first, the bribe worked, but
16:35
then Forkbeard attacked England again, and
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once more King Ethel Red paid
16:39
the Vikings to leave, this time
16:42
increasing the bribe to 24,000 pounds.
16:44
Now if you've ever trained a
16:46
dog or a cat, you'll know
16:48
the quickest way to solidify a
16:50
habit is to pair it with
16:52
a tasty little treat. And if
16:54
you want that pet to stop
16:56
a bad behavior, well you probably
16:59
don't want to give them a
17:01
heaping pound of cash every time
17:03
they do it. Suffice to say,
17:05
the Vikings only doubled down. As
17:07
a result, King Ethel Red believed
17:09
the only way to get rid
17:11
of them would be to casually
17:13
massacre every single Danish person in
17:15
England, women and children alike. The
17:18
incident, which took place on November
17:20
13th of 1002, became known as
17:22
the St. Bryce's Day Massacre. And
17:24
one of the victims unfortunately happened
17:26
to be Sven Forkbeard's sister, Gunhilda.
17:28
Up until this point, the Viking
17:30
campaigns against the English had mostly
17:32
been raids, but now Forkbeard was
17:35
thirsty for revenge. It was time
17:37
to make England pay for his
17:39
sister's death. His attacks quickly developed
17:41
into a full-scale military operation with
17:43
the objective of seizing power from
17:45
King Ethel Red the second once
17:47
and for all. The Vikings pillaged
17:49
and plundered without mercy on a
17:52
scale that history had never seen
17:54
before. Oh, and by the way,
17:56
King Ethel Red had botched things
17:58
so badly that he would officially
18:00
go down in history as And
18:02
I quote, Ethel read the Unready.
18:04
Seriously, William the Conqueror, Peter the
18:06
Great, Ivan the Terrible, and then
18:09
you have Ethel read the Unready?
18:11
It's pretty embarrassing, right? Anyway, on
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Christmas Day of 1013, Ethel Red
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fled into exile, and the English
18:17
Earls declared Sven Forkbeard, the first
18:19
Danish king of England. Little did
18:21
he know, only 40 days later,
18:23
on February 3, of 1014. He
18:26
would be dead. Not in battle,
18:28
in battle, mind you. nor at
18:30
the hands of a political rival.
18:32
No, the great king Forkbeard would
18:34
die in his sleep. The official
18:36
explanation was that the king had
18:38
perished from injuries he'd received after
18:40
a recent fall from his horse.
18:42
Alternatively, some historians believe that he
18:45
may have died of a stroke
18:47
or apoplexy. But there is another
18:49
explanation for his death. Some insist
18:51
that the king was murdered by
18:53
a ghost. And as it turns
18:55
out, this ghost had a pretty
18:57
solid motive. You see, in his
18:59
bloody campaign for power, Forkbeard made
19:02
one vital mistake. He threatened to
19:04
burn the township of Bodericksworth, known
19:06
today as Barry St. Edmunds, if
19:08
they didn't pay their taxes to
19:10
their new Danish king. Not only
19:12
would he set fire to the
19:14
buildings, but Forkbeard swore to kill
19:16
all of the town's priests as
19:19
well. According to legend, one individual
19:21
had a teensy problem with that
19:23
plan, and that person was none
19:25
other than St. Edmund himself, a
19:27
former English king who also just
19:29
so happened to be dead. 145
19:31
years prior to Forkbeard's death, St.
19:33
Edmund had been bound to a
19:36
tree, shot full of arrows and
19:38
beheaded, all for refusing to renounce
19:40
his faith. And who was behind
19:42
this horrific deed? Why, the Vikings,
19:44
of course. Between his grisly end,
19:46
his country being overtaken by the
19:48
very people who tortured and killed
19:50
him, and Forkbeard's latest threats, it's
19:53
no wonder that St. Edmund wasn't
19:55
exactly resting in peace. Which brings
19:57
us back to the night of
19:59
February the 3rd. As the story
20:01
goes, St. Edmund's spirit visited a
20:03
monk named Aylwin and delivered a
20:05
very clear message. If Forkbeard didn't
20:07
withdraw his threats, he would be
20:09
met with divine vengeance. Aylwin hastened
20:12
to the court to deliver the
20:14
news, only to be ignored and
20:16
tossed out. It was time to
20:18
celebrate Candlemas after all. This was
20:20
a time for partying, not for
20:22
politics. Like any good Viking King,
20:24
Forkbeard spent the evening reveling and
20:26
drinking, until finally he stumbled back
20:29
to his bed chambers to retire.
20:31
But as he arrived at his
20:33
bed, his face suddenly filled with
20:35
terror, and he cried out, Help
20:37
me, my soldiers, help me. Behold,
20:39
St. Edmund, comes to kill me.
20:41
No matter how the Vikings tried,
20:43
they couldn't see the ghost. The
20:46
king continued crying for help, but
20:48
it was no use. St. Edmund
20:50
ran the horrified man through with
20:52
a phantom spear, leaving Forkbeard writhing
20:54
in pain until Twilight arrived. And
20:56
with it. The king's death. Forkbeard's
20:59
life makes quite a tale. A
21:01
bloody rise to power. War and
21:03
rivalry and of course a hubristic
21:05
downfall right when our tragic protagonist
21:07
reaches the top. Tossa vengeful spirit
21:10
into the mix. and you've got
21:12
yourself a pretty incredible story for
21:14
your next cocktail party. And that
21:16
may be all that it is,
21:18
a story. Not Forkbeard's life, mind
21:20
you. All of that is true.
21:23
But the idea that he was
21:25
murdered by a ghost? Yeah, I
21:27
think it's safe to say that
21:29
that's a fanciful bit of fiction.
21:31
But the burning question is why?
21:34
Why pretend that the king was
21:36
killed by a spectral assassin? And
21:38
why St. Edmund specifically? Well, some
21:40
historians believe that the ghost story
21:42
had very little to do with
21:44
fork beard at all, and more
21:47
to do with St. Edmund. You
21:49
see, by creating a tale in
21:51
which the martyred king defeats a
21:53
terrible villain like Forkbeard, it instantly
21:55
venerates him as a hero worthy
21:58
of sainthood, a classic myth of
22:00
good, vanquishing over evil. But there's
22:02
another more sinister explanation as well.
22:04
Because you know what else a
22:06
ghost murderer can be? The perfect
22:09
alibi. That's right. Other historians have
22:11
suggested that the story of Alewin
22:13
the monks warning provided the perfect
22:15
cover for a very real murder
22:17
to take place. Most point the
22:19
finger at Forkbeard's daughter-in-law, who he
22:22
had recently accused of treason, but
22:24
honestly I'm sure this charmer had
22:26
no shortage of enemies. Whoever the
22:28
culprit was, Aylwin's vision provided the
22:30
perfect opportunity. Now, whatever happened to
22:33
the king could be blamed on
22:35
the ghost of St. Edmund. Whether
22:37
as a tool to venerate a
22:39
saint or acquit a sinner, it
22:41
just goes to show that a
22:43
story is a powerful thing. Almost
22:46
as a ghost with a spear.
22:48
But hey, maybe that's why they
22:50
call them, spirits. Even death itself,
22:52
even death itself, it seems, can't
22:54
give orders to a king. Even
22:57
death itself, it seems, can't give
22:59
orders to a king. From royal
23:01
reverence to Princess Poltergeist, there is
23:03
certainly no shortage of undead English
23:05
monarchs. And with so many generations
23:07
inhabiting the same castles, it's no
23:10
wonder these places fill up with
23:12
ghosts like a cursed family reunion.
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a castle, any castle. Now sure,
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you may have thought of Edinburgh
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Castle, or the Winter Palace, but
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I'm willing to bet that most
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of you found a single name
27:50
leaped to mind before all the
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rest, a little place called Windsor
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Castle, the most famous, and arguably
27:56
the most haunted of them all.
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Windsor Castle boasts the distinction of
28:00
being the largest... and oldest continuously
28:03
inhabited castle in the entire world.
28:05
Located in Windsor, England, just south
28:07
of the River Thames, Royals have
28:09
been calling those stone walls home
28:11
since the not so recent year
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of 1070. Over nearly a thousand
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years, Windsor Castle has housed 39
28:18
kings and queens of England, not
28:20
to mention their sprawling courts, families,
28:22
staff, and advisors. But Windsor isn't
28:24
only a house. It's also a
28:26
tomb. 11 British monarchs are buried
28:28
right in the castle's own chapel,
28:31
and some of them, it seems,
28:33
refuse to stay put. We all
28:35
remember King Henry VIII, of six
28:37
wives' fame, right? You know, divorced
28:39
beheaded, died, divorced beheaded, survived. Yeah,
28:41
that charmer. What you might not
28:44
know is that according to some
28:46
historians, Henry's transformation into a tyrannical
28:48
temperamental monarch may have been caused
28:50
by a jousting accident. An accident
28:52
that, if the legends are true,
28:54
continued to torment him, even after
28:56
death. The dangerous sport, in which
28:59
two mounted horsemen run full speed
29:01
at each other with lances, was
29:03
not for the faint of heart.
29:05
But none of that would stop
29:07
Henry, who absolutely loved to joust.
29:09
On January 24th of 1536, Henry
29:11
was competing against Sir Norris, a
29:14
close friend of Anne Boleyns, when
29:16
the unthinkable occurred. Henry charged Norris,
29:18
but missed his target, hitting Norris'
29:20
saddle instead. The force of the
29:22
impact flung Henry from his mount,
29:24
and then his horse toppled, crushing
29:27
the king beneath its full incredible
29:29
weight. It's thought that Henry suffered
29:31
a traumatic brain injury that day,
29:33
explaining his erratic behavior to come.
29:35
Not only that, but the accident
29:37
re-injured an old leg wound from
29:39
a previous jousting accident. The wound
29:42
then became infected, causing ulcers which
29:44
oozed pus and blood, along with
29:46
a foul smell that repulsed everyone
29:48
around him. It left him writhing
29:50
in pain for the final decade
29:52
of his life. And maybe, if
29:55
the stories are true, Even longer.
29:57
Henry VIII died in 1547 at
29:59
the age of 55, but many
30:01
witnesses have reported seeing his ghost,
30:03
wafting through the stone corridors of
30:05
Windsor Castle. He seems despondent and
30:07
agitated, pacing furiously and shouting. But
30:10
the most chilling operation of all
30:12
may not be a sight but
30:14
a sound, the shuddering noise of
30:16
Henry's ghost wheezing in pain as
30:18
he drags his hoard, festering leg
30:20
behind him. And it seems that
30:22
hauntings must run in the family,
30:25
because King Henry VIII and Anne
30:27
Boleyn's daughter has a habit of
30:29
appearing specterally throughout the castle. Born
30:31
in 1533, Elizabeth ascended to the
30:33
throne in 1558 at the age
30:35
of 25 and ruled until her
30:38
death in 1603. Elizabeth was much
30:40
more than a politician. She was
30:42
highly educated and intelligent, plus a
30:44
multi-linguist, a master calligrapher, and a
30:46
talented musician. She even patronized artists
30:48
such as William Shakespeare himself. Given
30:50
Elizabeth's love of the arts, it's
30:53
no surprise that her ghost has
30:55
frequently been spotted in the Royal
30:57
Library, where she spent so much
30:59
time as queen. Palace guards have
31:01
reported seeing Elizabeth's ghost, perusing the
31:03
bookshelves or reclining in the chairs,
31:06
reading, of course. Others have heard
31:08
the echo of her high heels,
31:10
clicking on the library floors. In
31:12
one story that took place in
31:14
1897, a lieutenant of the Gredendear
31:16
guards spotted a woman dressed in
31:18
black past him and turned a
31:21
corner in the library. Now he'd
31:23
seen plenty of royal portraits and
31:25
couldn't help but notice how much
31:27
this mysterious lady resembled the late
31:29
Elizabeth I. Naturally he followed her,
31:31
but she was nowhere to be
31:33
found. Stranger still, the corner she
31:36
had turned down didn't lead to
31:38
any door that the woman would
31:40
have used to leave the library.
31:42
And when he asked a nearby
31:44
attendant, the lieutenant was told that
31:46
he'd been the only one to
31:49
enter the library all that afternoon.
31:51
Honestly, as a book nerd, this
31:53
kind of sounds like an ideal
31:55
afterlife. If death... endless library time,
31:57
please count me in. Now it
31:59
hasn't just been soldiers and palace
32:01
visitors to see Elizabeth's ghost. Bonified
32:04
members of the royal family themselves
32:06
have spotted her too. At the
32:08
start of World War II, King
32:10
George VI reportedly glimpsed her multiple
32:12
nights in a row. Both King
32:14
George III and King Edward VII
32:17
saw a woman they believed to
32:19
be Elizabeth dressed in, you guessed
32:21
it, a black gown. In fact,
32:23
King George III supposedly even spoke
32:25
to her, a rather noble conversation
32:27
in which she declared herself to
32:29
be, and I quote, married to
32:32
England. To be fair, though, George
32:34
III may not have been the
32:36
most reliable witness. Now, Bridgerton fans
32:38
will know this, but for the
32:40
rest of you, King George famously
32:42
suffered from debilitating mental illness throughout
32:45
his entire life, earning him the
32:47
cruel nickname, the Mad King. And
32:49
by the way, yes, this is
32:51
the same King George notorious for
32:53
losing the colonies during the American
32:55
Revolution. And of course, for singing
32:57
an epic banger of a comedic
33:00
number in Act One of Hamilton.
33:02
A busy guy, I know. George
33:04
III became King of England in
33:06
1760, and his life was rife
33:08
with physical and mental suffering a
33:10
life. Most notorious were the king's
33:12
bouts of mania, in which he
33:15
would babble uncontrollably for hours until
33:17
horse or foaming at the mouth.
33:19
His illness also caused him to
33:21
behave wildly and inappropriately, sometimes to
33:23
the point of violence. Despite seeking
33:25
medical care, George's illness was never
33:28
cured or fully diagnosed, and so
33:30
he spent the final 10 years
33:32
of his life isolated in his
33:34
room at Windsor Castle. And yes,
33:36
I'm sure you can guess where
33:38
this is going. He has haunted
33:40
that room. ever since. According to
33:43
one tale, the hauntings began soon
33:45
after the king died. While his
33:47
body lay in state, the palace
33:49
guards were passing the king's chamber
33:51
window, when the commanding officers spotted
33:53
the king himself, standing as he
33:56
always did, awaiting his afternoon salute.
33:58
Operating on instinct, this had been
34:00
a daily routine, after all, the
34:02
officer gave the order, eyes right,
34:04
his soldiers obeyed, turning to look,
34:06
and all watched in awe as
34:08
the phantom figure accepted, and then
34:11
returned their salute. To this day
34:13
King George's ghost is still seen
34:15
haunting the apartment in which he
34:17
was restrained, where, when alive, he
34:19
passed countless hours alone, playing the
34:21
harp, and hoping for reprieve from
34:23
the prison of his own mind.
34:26
Perhaps the ill King George the
34:28
brilliant Queen Elizabeth and the injured
34:30
Henry VIII have all found some
34:32
solidarity and friendship in one another's
34:34
company. At least, I hope so.
34:36
After all, forever is an awfully
34:39
long time to be stuck, with
34:41
the same set of roommates. This
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