I am going to sum up this podcast below... So you don't have to listen."An expert in X, Y, Z says they are 99.9% sure the girls died without human interaction, but they cannot say for certain. We now have 20 experts that cannot say for certain that they were murdered. Listen to more filler just so we can talk to another expert who believes* they were murdered!"*this expert says there is a 0.01% probability they might have been murdered.