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Again. time is it game time? What's

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popping? Macrodosians? Hey man, shout out to

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all the macadosians out there, the

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real ones. I was at an

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escape room. I was walking in

3:15

to go to an escape room

3:18

so dude came up to me.

3:20

It's so fun. I was in

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Houston too. Usually in Houston I

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get recognized as the football player.

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But I was paying for it,

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you know, to park at this.

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I don't know, parking places, going

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into the escape room is a

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good area. I'm like, yeah, what's

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going on, bro? He said, man,

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I'm a macadocian, big macadocian. I

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appreciate it, dog. Appreciate it. So

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it's love out there, shout out

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to the macadocosians, man, holding down.

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What percentage of people say that

3:54

to you now as opposed to

3:56

football? Which with football 70

3:58

yeah, football see I think even

4:01

even that it's 30% is a

4:03

lot I get a lot of

4:05

people come to be saying macadoses

4:07

bro, it's like I've had this

4:09

happen to me several times people

4:11

roll up and like I'm listening

4:13

to the park right now man

4:16

I'm like that's yeah got that

4:18

a couple times there's serendipitous macadosions

4:20

out here man I love it

4:22

one guy in New York just

4:24

like kind of walked up behind

4:26

me and like put his phone

4:28

in front of me and I

4:31

was like what the phone in

4:33

front the What's up man? It

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is Thursday February 6th 2025. Damn

4:37

getting old as fuck 2025. Like

4:39

when I like I mean think

4:41

about this I used to say

4:43

like yo yo back in the

4:46

20s the roaring 20s. That's a

4:48

thing right. It's now the 20s.

4:50

A hundred years from the roaring

4:52

20s. That's crazy. Right. To me

4:54

it is. I don't know. I

4:56

heard somebody talking about 2017 the

4:58

other day and I was like,

5:01

yeah, 2017 was just a few

5:03

years ago. It was eight years

5:05

ago. A couple years back. I

5:07

retired in one year, I retired

5:09

10 years from the National Football

5:11

League. Time is a motherfucker, ain't

5:13

it? Damn. Yeah, that's crazy. Well,

5:16

anyway, happy Thursday, y'all. It's Super

5:18

Bowl holiday weekend. Hope everybody's prepping,

5:20

getting a whatever snacks ready. Yeah,

5:22

your party orders all, all, all,

5:24

all sorted out, because, um... Get

5:26

the cookie cake. Hey, sometimes, like,

5:29

you, you gotta, you gotta get

5:31

that shit right, because if you

5:33

do the Super Bowl party, you

5:35

gotta make sure you have somebody

5:37

with a stable connection and, uh,

5:39

and, and a, and a good

5:41

TV. Oh, you do party, it

5:44

works like Super Bowl party, and

5:46

you're like, man, this shit week.

5:48

Oh, I don't go to, I,

5:50

I would never go to, I

5:52

would never go to, But it's

5:54

not like the Falcons are in

5:56

the Super Bowl. Why do you

5:59

care? Well, first of all, I've

6:01

responsibly placed several wages on Draft

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King sports book that I care

6:05

about a lot. Secondly, It's just

6:07

like, it's people who, they don't

6:09

give a shit, they're not watching

6:11

the game, they're talking, they're yelling,

6:14

there's music playing, and then they're

6:16

like, oh, I can't wait for

6:18

the commercials, like, it's just, it's

6:20

not, it's not, yeah, it's not

6:22

the environment I need to be

6:24

in to watch the Super Bowl.

6:26

Now, I've had gripes with the

6:29

Super Bowl forever, anyway, that it's

6:31

so much of a spectacle. And

6:33

that's because to make it have

6:35

mass appeal, but a Super Bowl

6:37

party is not the place for

6:39

Big T. You just have the

6:41

wrong ones. Like my, I'm hosting

6:44

one. That's not literally all the

6:46

family and friends is getting together.

6:48

But like, we come from a

6:50

football family, like my dad played,

6:52

my brother played, obviously I played.

6:54

And like we used to have,

6:56

so like bowl games, with bowl

6:59

games used to mean something. Back

7:01

when I was growing up, my

7:03

mom, we had a tradition like.

7:05

every January one bowl game, my

7:07

mom will make a big pot

7:09

of green chili stew and we

7:11

sit around and watch bowl games

7:14

all day and we do that

7:16

day in the day. Good old

7:18

days. Yeah, so the both season

7:20

was up. So like, Super Bowl

7:22

is a thing, like we watched

7:24

the games, like, my mom can

7:26

tell you what cover two is,

7:29

like, you know what I'm saying,

7:31

cover three. I don't know if

7:33

she knows, cover two, she knows,

7:35

or come to it. I mean,

7:37

if you know two, you can

7:39

figure out. We watch and the

7:42

commercials used to be lit. They've

7:44

gone downhill tremendously. It's bad man.

7:46

And now they put them all

7:48

out like half of them are

7:50

out already. Like I think like

7:52

I think the Shane Gillis Peyton

7:54

Manning Bud Light thing is going

7:57

to be their Super Bowl commercial.

7:59

The Uber eats like McConahay thing.

8:01

Yeah. And they put them out

8:03

online before. That's disappointing. But or

8:05

they do like the The teaser

8:07

for the commercial right which is

8:09

so stupid Back in my day,

8:12

you would wait till the Super

8:14

Bowl and then you would be

8:16

surprised with the funny commercials. Now

8:18

they're not even funny and they're

8:20

not, they don't come out in

8:22

the Super Bowl. It's just like

8:24

what is the biggest celebrity that

8:27

you can get? Right. Yeah. They're

8:29

playing with me right now. Someone,

8:31

I don't know who is doing

8:33

a Billy Crystal Meg Ryan when

8:35

Harry met Sally thing like, we're

8:37

reuniting for something iconic and it's

8:39

gonna be some dumb Super Bowl

8:42

ad and... I feel like Billy

8:44

Crystal is in a Super Bowl

8:46

commercial every year and that's the

8:48

only place I see him. I

8:50

mean he's like an older gentleman

8:52

and also a very notable iconic

8:54

American figure. Definitely. I feel like

8:57

he's just like someone who you

8:59

want around. Yeah I just I

9:01

never hear from him and then

9:03

he pops up in a Super

9:05

Bowl commercial every year. Yeah I

9:07

don't think he's doing active act.

9:09

Ten voices of all time? God

9:12

yeah what a good. Really? Yeah,

9:14

I'm not, I'm not, I'm talking

9:16

about singing voices. I'm talking about

9:18

like just, right, yeah. It feels

9:20

good, tonally, like when he talks,

9:22

I listen kind of voice. Like,

9:24

you like, like obviously you got

9:27

like Morgan Freeman, James Earl Jones,

9:29

like top of the list, right?

9:31

And then from now, like, I

9:33

think I would say like, yeah,

9:35

Billy Chris, I'm like a top

9:37

10. Morgan frame. Morgan frame is

9:40

probably number one. Yeah, I was

9:42

in Morgan frame. I mean, he's

9:44

like the quintessential What you would

9:46

want to narrate anything. Yeah, who's

9:48

the British nature guy? Yeah, David

9:50

Attenborough. Yeah, yeah, him. Mm-hmm. Yeah,

9:52

I try to think of another

9:55

one. McConahay's voice. I guess I

9:57

enjoy listening to Yeah, he does

9:59

have that deep like raspy. Okay,

10:01

here's one that you probably don't

10:03

know, but it's absolutely an iconic

10:05

voice. Bunby. Bunby, the sound of

10:07

his voice is just, it is.

10:10

So I could listen to him

10:12

talk all day though, it's amazing.

10:14

Peep, Bumby. And I ain't talking

10:16

about his rapid, just listen. him

10:18

talk. I love that dude voice.

10:20

Okay. B's cold. Yeah, talking is

10:22

a lost start, man. No, it's

10:25

not. Everybody talks about there. People

10:27

forget Billy Crystal, Mike Wozowski. Really?

10:29

Nobody forgets that. Nobody forgets that.

10:31

Nobody forgets. I do know. This

10:33

is the first hearing of this.

10:35

Yeah, I didn't know. Yeah, no.

10:37

If you had a gun to

10:40

my head and said who was

10:42

the voice of Mike Wozowski, it

10:44

would have gone off. I thought

10:46

that was just like, yo, who's

10:48

Sully? Sully, John Goodman, is John

10:50

Goodman. Really? Yeah. Wow. I never

10:52

would have known. That's crazy. You

10:55

didn't know that. Billy Crystal. Wow,

10:57

what a cast. Wait, let's look

10:59

who else is in monsters? I've

11:01

never looked into it, I guess.

11:03

Who's the, uh, Ross? Ross. I

11:05

don't know any more notable ones,

11:07

but I knew those two. Ross

11:10

played by a man. I mean

11:12

that checks out, who's Randall? Um...

11:14

I forget. Why is it so

11:16

hard to find these people? You

11:18

can just go to IMDB and

11:20

it shows cast. I'm looking at

11:22

it right now. Oh, shut up.

11:25

Steve Bushemi! You know, yeah, I

11:27

see that now. I don't even

11:29

know. Wow, what a cast. You

11:31

know Steve Bush. Crazy eyes for

11:33

Mr. Deeds. Oh, yeah, he kind

11:35

of looked like, uh, Randall. Yeah,

11:38

he does. Yeah. Oh, oh, I

11:40

listen. I'm checking out the best

11:42

voices of all the time, like,

11:44

talking. But I feel like now

11:46

that you know, it's Billy Crystal,

11:48

you can put it together big

11:50

day. Yeah, like, I hear it

11:53

now. Yeah. Liam

11:55

Nieson? Did

11:57

I? Yeah.

12:00

Um. No, this is not.

12:02

Samuel, uh, here's a distinguished,

12:04

but I don't know if

12:07

it's like the best, like.

12:09

Oh, Kiefer Sutherland. Really? Who?

12:11

Kiefer Sutherland? You familiar, uh,

12:13

Jack Bauer, 24? Mm. You've

12:15

seen him? Probably. I got

12:17

one for you. Mr. for

12:19

walking. I love his voice.

12:21

See, I don't. Oh really?

12:23

I mean it's obviously very

12:26

unique and it's cool but

12:28

like if you were picking

12:30

someone to listen to it

12:32

would not be Chris Walken

12:34

for me. What about Lawrence

12:36

Fishburn? Yeah. I like Lawrence

12:38

Fishburns. Shout out Boys in

12:40

the Hood? Many times it's

12:43

one of my, it's in

12:45

my top, it's in my

12:47

top 20 probably. I didn't

12:49

pin that though. Oh I

12:51

love Boys in the Hood.

12:53

Wow. It's a great movie.

12:55

It's one of the best.

12:57

I love it. Yeah. What's

12:59

your favorite, I mean, what's

13:02

your favorite part? I mean,

13:04

I haven't seen it in

13:06

so long. Honestly, I sound

13:08

like LeBron right now, but

13:10

I need to watch it

13:12

again. Read One page. I

13:14

probably haven't seen it. It's

13:16

given. It's given years. No,

13:18

I love that movie. I've

13:22

been seeing it a while either,

13:24

but I can tell you. I

13:26

remember distinctly Cuba Gooding Jr. at

13:28

one point is wearing a Georgia

13:31

Tech hat and I remember thinking

13:33

to myself, why is he wearing

13:35

a Georgia Tech hat in L.A?

13:37

I think you said that once

13:39

and I was like, ain't no,

13:41

it was around the time that

13:44

like they were really good at

13:46

basketball, so like maybe that was

13:48

part of it, like Bobby Cremens,

13:50

I don't know, but. It could

13:52

be a hood hat too. I

13:54

don't, I don't know, I don't

13:57

know, I don't know, I don't

13:59

know, Georgia Tech. Claim sets out

14:01

there it isn't ring best if

14:03

there is the gt like gangster

14:05

tribe or something I doubt that

14:07

but there No, you've explained it

14:10

once though. The logos out there

14:12

are correlated with gangs somehow, some

14:14

way. There are neutral hats, but

14:16

I don't I don't recall Georgia

14:18

Tech being one. It could be.

14:21

I don't know. I think we

14:23

talked about it before, but yeah,

14:25

there's so like Seattle Mariners, for

14:27

instance, that's Nipsey Hustle used to

14:29

wear that, right? Rolling 60s. He's

14:31

rolling 60 Crip, from Long Beach.

14:34

That's Pittsburgh Steelers. That's a Pittsburgh

14:36

Steelers hat and colors. Let me

14:38

see what else. Houston Astros. That's

14:40

School Boy Q. That's Hoover, Hoover,

14:42

52 Hoover, Deuce. Let's see the

14:44

game. He's from Cedar Block, Cincinnati

14:47

Reds hat. I think from where

14:49

Kenjard from his neighborhood, Washington Nationals

14:51

hat. the W, the red W

14:53

one. How's the bunch man? I

14:55

should probably look into this. The

14:57

Yankees hat, the blue Yankees has

15:00

Nutty Block. Nutty Block Compton Crips.

15:02

I think they're in Compton. Yeah,

15:04

there's a whole bunch, man. There's

15:06

a whole, a whole bunch of

15:08

them. I'm seeing that the Braves

15:11

hat can be some gang as

15:13

well. But surely if people, they

15:15

know I'm not. Right, like they.

15:17

There was a really powerful statement

15:19

in Nipsey Hustle said when he

15:21

was on this, the reason why

15:24

I fuck with Nipsey Hustle, his

15:26

musical school, of course, but I

15:28

loved his mentality. He said some

15:30

of the real shit ever, he

15:32

was saying how when they used

15:34

to, it kind of dawned on

15:37

him, like when he was like,

15:39

when you go out and you

15:41

go do a mission, like when

15:43

you go out to go find

15:45

somebody who do it, he's like,

15:47

you bypass, this is his verse.

15:50

preference be like you bypassed the

15:52

dorky looking dude you bypassed the

15:54

Asian cat you bypass the white

15:56

boy, he said, you looking for

15:58

you. He said, you looking for

16:00

somebody that looks like you. And

16:03

he said, that was very powerful

16:05

moment for me, where it's like

16:07

the corners in which that we

16:09

were causing was searching for yourself

16:11

in other neighborhoods. And it was

16:14

a very powerful statement. It was

16:16

really dope. I can tell you

16:18

my least favorite part of boys

16:20

in the hood. Well, when they

16:22

shot Ricky. Ricky. I think that

16:24

dude died in real life. Well,

16:28

I'm sure he has or

16:30

will. No, no, no, like

16:32

from gangbanging. Oh, yeah, I

16:34

think, uh, no, Ricky, I

16:36

think, uh, no, not Ricky,

16:38

person, whoops, the boys in

16:40

the hood. He did get

16:42

shot. Let me see, Ricky,

16:45

Pierce, all that is. Wasn't

16:47

him? Yeah. Wait, wait. But

16:49

yeah, boys in the hood,

16:51

one of the best movies,

16:53

one of the best hood

16:55

movies of all time, man.

16:57

Actually, my, one of my

16:59

favorite things about Boys in

17:02

the hood, it's Kevin Hart

17:04

in the movie Get Hard,

17:06

recounting his fake life story

17:08

as boy, the story of

17:10

Boys in the hood to

17:12

the family of, uh, to

17:14

like his daughter or something.

17:16

Have you seen the movie

17:19

Get Hard? It's with Kevin

17:21

Hart and Will Farrell. It's

17:23

pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

17:25

yeah. And when he's, he's

17:27

pretending that he went to

17:29

prison and he just tells

17:31

the story of Boys in

17:34

the Hood, it's, it's very

17:36

funny, but. Your favorite part

17:38

of Boys in the Hood

17:40

is in Kevin Hart recounting

17:42

Boys in the Hood, he

17:44

was murdered in real life.

17:46

imprisoned by a Satanous over

17:48

spiritual differences. That's crazy. They

17:51

do say don't talk about

17:53

politics or real... on like

17:55

a first date I would

17:57

say that probably goes double

17:59

for in prison I don't

18:01

know if I was surviving

18:03

prison honestly I feel like

18:05

people would know you though

18:08

so maybe like nobody would

18:10

fuck with you also you're

18:12

not a small guy that

18:14

you be like I put

18:16

this people don't like me

18:18

though I just don't have

18:20

like a a categorical place

18:23

that I could fit in.

18:25

Like, the cats that I

18:27

grew up with, like, you

18:29

gotta really know me to

18:31

like me. Like, if you

18:33

don't know me, odds are

18:35

you probably not gonna like

18:37

me. I've always experienced. You,

18:40

I, you, would try to

18:42

go along to get along

18:44

in jail or you would,

18:46

uh, you would still be

18:48

very opinionated. Oh, it depends,

18:50

right, because it's like, it's

18:52

like, so I could see

18:54

that getting you in trouble.

18:57

Yeah, but that's so I've had people

19:00

I've literally had people come to me

19:02

and say oh you're arrogant I don't

19:04

like you because you're arrogant like when

19:07

we talk like what don't you like

19:09

about me you're arrogant and I would

19:11

literally not talk like I've had

19:13

people call me arrogant and I don't

19:16

say a word like when people this

19:18

is my belief anyway when people are

19:20

like confidence is is intimidating And I

19:23

don't mean to tell me like you're

19:25

afraid, but it's just like, if

19:27

you're insecure and yourself and you see

19:29

somebody who's confident, that can either lead

19:32

to like, oh, I like that about

19:34

them or I dislike that about

19:36

them. And it's very, I don't say

19:38

it's binary, but that's been my experience.

19:41

So a lot of people who like

19:43

didn't like me at first, I just

19:45

think you're arrogant. I was like, what

19:48

did I do that was arrogant?

19:50

I was like, you can never really

19:52

pin it. Like the people I hear,

19:54

I hear comments all the time, you

19:57

know what I'm saying, or you know,

19:59

people tweet me all the time, but

20:01

you're arrogant, you know, like how,

20:03

arrogance means I think I'm better than

20:06

somebody else, whenever I've ex, exuded that,

20:08

I don't, it's. exact opposite if you

20:10

actually know me, right? But I think,

20:13

especially like in a prison situation, that

20:15

my quietness would lead to like,

20:17

who the fuck does he think he

20:19

is? I've had that happen before. Like,

20:22

oh, you just think you're better than

20:24

everybody else. Because I'm not talking

20:26

to you? That's crazy. It's crazy. I

20:28

just don't have like a welcoming demeanor.

20:31

And my biggest problem is I will

20:33

always give you the energy you give

20:36

me. Like big tea, if you nice

20:38

and shit to me, I'm gonna

20:40

be nicest shit to you. Right. If

20:42

you talk shit to me, I'm gonna

20:45

talk shit to you. That's just how

20:47

I am. Like, I will give you

20:49

the energy you give me. And sometimes

20:52

that self-defense can be viewed as

20:54

me starting to shit, but I don't

20:56

know. I don't want no problems. Peace

20:58

of person. So you could foresee yourself

21:01

in jail getting into some altercations. Oh,

21:03

yeah. Because a lot of that shit

21:05

is ego, and I would. Hey,

21:07

you got it, bro. All day. But

21:10

there comes a certain time where you

21:12

would probably have to fight. I'm like,

21:14

in jail, from my understanding, I did

21:17

spend a night in jail. I wasn't

21:19

in like any prison or anything

21:21

like that, but I got a lot

21:23

of dudes that have went there. A

21:26

lot of that shit is like, yeah,

21:28

you can. And it also depends

21:30

on where you go, too, like, if

21:32

I'm in there, there, there is a

21:35

racial segregation in jail. That's the politics

21:37

of jail. That just is what it

21:39

is. And for the most probably, I

21:42

mean, we had, we had two

21:44

of them dudes on the podcast. You

21:46

met, you met one of them. He

21:48

was in there for 10 years, right?

21:51

The other dude, we had fridge, right?

21:53

One mother home boy. Like, it's just

21:55

racially segregated. And so I would

21:57

have to pick aside. You know what

22:00

I mean? It's never what I'm gonna

22:02

follow all these laws. I don't want

22:04

to be there Two questions about that

22:07

one I also feel like doesn't it

22:09

extremely help or hurt your situation?

22:11

It depends on like what you're in

22:13

there for? Yeah. Like they don't fuck

22:16

with the petos. Nah, you gonna get

22:18

your ass beat pretty regularly in

22:20

there. But if you're in there for

22:22

like tax fraud. I feel like you're

22:25

gonna be in, I mean, like I

22:27

said, where, where the business is too?

22:29

But like, yeah. And then second, this

22:32

may be an ignorant question. Would

22:34

it help or hurt you Aryan Foster?

22:36

If you went into a prison like

22:38

that and you are not gang affiliated.

22:41

It could be, it could be both.

22:43

It could help me for somebody who

22:45

fucks with me, but it could

22:47

hurt me on some like, uh, he's

22:50

not one of us. Well, no, like

22:52

he, he, somebody might try to get

22:54

some stripes off you, right? Somebody tried

22:57

to make a name, oh, I'm gonna,

22:59

I'm gonna fight him, cuz of

23:01

who he is. Like that could, that

23:03

could be a thing too. I mean

23:06

to me growing up, like, like. Oh,

23:08

you think you were bad? You think

23:10

you big and bad because you were

23:13

an athlete? I don't, bro, but

23:15

what's up? It's just a different mentality.

23:17

It's like a little... I don't know.

23:19

It's a horrible mentality. I don't never

23:22

want to be a part of

23:24

it. I hope you guys are ever

23:26

in prison. Me too. Probably the reason

23:28

I got cameras in my house, man.

23:31

If I'm ever accused of anything, I

23:33

got alibi. You have them on the,

23:35

on like the inside of your

23:37

house? Oh yeah. Not my problem, actually,

23:40

no. That would be weird, actually, that'd

23:42

be kind of creepy. It's in my

23:44

living room and it's like on all

23:47

the out on the outside, it's like

23:49

so like where my garage is,

23:51

my front, my back, I got all

23:53

the perimeters covered every angle. That's how

23:56

you got that game of Thrones's reaction

23:58

video that one time. Yeah, yeah. That

24:00

was way before this podcast. Yeah, I

24:03

don't I don't know about it.

24:05

You talked about it and you sent

24:07

us the video. It's like on TMS.

24:09

I think. Yeah, of course it was.

24:12

Of course. I feel like I vaguely

24:14

remember talking about that, but I don't

24:16

remember watching it. What was it?

24:18

Red wedding? You had your dog too

24:21

at the time. Yeah, I had a

24:23

husky. The husky. I think it was

24:25

someone dying. It was when Aria

24:27

spoiled the night king. Wow. Oh, did

24:30

you liked that? All right. Yes. Right.

24:32

I think we vaguely talked about it.

24:34

I don't think that I could write

24:37

a season eight after all of that

24:39

happened, right? They did a great

24:41

job. With that series, it ended kind

24:43

of, I understand why people feel it

24:46

was rushed, but I still feel it

24:48

was a great, it's probably the greatest

24:50

show of all time. It was, at

24:53

one point. I just think y'all

24:55

be spoiled, man. I mean, think of

24:57

how, think of how... drastic the fall

24:59

off had to be for like that

25:02

was I mean pretty widely considered I

25:04

think in the running for the best

25:06

show of all time and since

25:08

it ended like nobody's really talked about

25:11

it at all you know they have

25:13

because listen came out and it was

25:15

the what prequel yeah that the

25:17

first season that was pretty good and

25:20

then the second season was bad I

25:22

checked out So what's the quintessential TV

25:24

series? What's your top number one? Because

25:27

I thought that I mean, that's up

25:29

there. No, Game of Thrones is

25:31

still in the running for me. Like

25:33

if I could go, if I could

25:36

just pretend it ended. I forget what

25:38

I used to say, but there was

25:40

a point where I was like, if

25:43

it would have ended right here,

25:45

it would have been just perfect. Game

25:47

of Thrones? I didn't I didn't get

25:49

paid to do that that be my

25:52

problem with people brother like man this

25:54

shit is horrible. Well, how's it supposed

25:56

to end up? I don't know.

25:58

Well, that's it's that there was their

26:01

job. But you can't you cannot you

26:03

cannot like Well, I'll tell you who's

26:05

fault it is. I'll tell you whose

26:08

fault it is. It's George R. R.

26:10

Martin's fault for starting writing these

26:12

books in the 80s. And then he's

26:15

like, yeah, I mean, I'm still, the

26:17

ending's coming. Like, write the damn book,

26:19

you know, especially once you knew.

26:21

It's spoken from a non-artist. No, especially

26:24

when the TV show had started. And

26:26

in seven years, we're going to get

26:28

to a point where the sidewalk ends.

26:31

And now now what? See most have

26:33

had a great line, right? Most

26:35

deaf, aka Yacim Bay. He said, I

26:37

write a rhyme. They said, He said,

26:40

some, some, some, I committed the page.

26:42

I write a rhyme, sometimes won't finish

26:44

for days. You cannot rush art. It's

26:47

been decades. No, that is a

26:49

metaphor for a dog. What he was

26:51

talking about was you cannot rush art.

26:53

Art comes whenever it comes. And he

26:56

made something as brilliant as these books.

26:58

And for Big T to sit there

27:00

with his Atlanta hat and say,

27:02

write the fucking book. It's wilder. Totally

27:05

understand, totally understand, and agree with your

27:07

point. It's not rushed. He's had 30

27:09

years. Art comes when it comes.

27:11

It's not rushed. This world has seen

27:14

billions of years before my man started

27:16

to write that book and it was

27:18

just fine. But when he wrote those

27:21

book and meant something, so let him

27:23

finish whatever he gets his time.

27:25

That'll finish. Yeah, I mean, maybe we'll

27:27

find out eventually. You know, who knows?

27:30

It's like, it's to me, I saw

27:32

a tweet the other day that perfectly

27:34

is a perfect summation of this. correlated

27:38

art with content. We lost our

27:40

way and I agree a thousand

27:42

percent. I was a thousand percent.

27:44

Let that shit come and appreciate

27:46

it with us here because I

27:48

can't write no shit like that.

27:50

I just can't do it. It

27:52

was an amazing story, amazing storyline.

27:54

I loved it all. The cinematography,

27:56

the character, grow, all of this.

27:58

It's amazing. I accepted for what

28:00

it is and I appreciate it.

28:02

I can't get with the Monday

28:04

morning quarterbacks. Especially if they don't

28:06

have an ending for me. If

28:09

you give me an ending that's

28:11

better, I'll listen to it. I

28:13

can't give it to me. I

28:15

haven't watched it in too long.

28:17

I'd have to go back and,

28:19

but there was just so much

28:21

stuff that happened in the last

28:23

season that was so corny and

28:25

like, like, I don't even have

28:27

as much of an issue with

28:29

like how it ended. The brand

28:31

thing is stupid but like the

28:33

holistically as just like some of

28:35

the shit that happened in the

28:37

last season was so like Sam

28:39

like he's writing a song of

28:41

ice and fire like give me

28:43

a break like it was just

28:46

so much corny shit It kind

28:48

of ruined it and it was

28:50

like it was like a breaking

28:52

the fourth wall thing like just

28:54

shit like that there was definitely

28:56

Like they had like Starbucks cups

28:58

and some of the things. Yes.

29:00

It was it was. I understand

29:02

or critique. It's just they're humans.

29:04

I understand and and on the

29:06

whole you know that's one eighth

29:08

of the show so what like

29:10

12% the other 88% some of

29:12

the best television that's ever been

29:14

made like there are scenes in

29:16

that show that I'm just like

29:18

are unbelievable. But the last

29:21

season didn't live up to that and

29:23

part of that was they'd created such

29:25

a standard that it would would have

29:28

been very difficult to live up to

29:30

that's my point is but they did

29:32

it was so dope that I don't

29:35

think you could end it in a

29:37

way that That made everybody happy. That's

29:39

just that is certainly true, but they

29:42

could have ended it in a way

29:44

that most people didn't hate also. I

29:46

don't know I think people were so

29:49

encapsulated with this series that no matter

29:51

how it ended people will be upset

29:53

because you can't end something like that

29:56

with any kind of definitive it was

29:58

gonna have to be an abrupt ending

30:00

that's thing about like really good movies

30:03

and shows it has to end and

30:05

so in what way do you do

30:07

that's that's the hard part about like

30:10

give me a great ending to a

30:12

movie like a amazing ending

30:14

a movie or TV show or does

30:16

it matter either one I think

30:18

the office has an incredible

30:21

ending I think what happened

30:23

how did how did it end

30:25

like you felt you felt you

30:27

felt Okay, I am okay

30:29

with this ending. Yes, very much

30:31

so. I think that's just a rare

30:34

occurrence, right? Even if that's, if

30:36

I take your word for, that's

30:38

a rare occurrence, like, one of

30:40

my usual time is Star Trek,

30:42

the next generation, right? And

30:44

I have not, well, I've watched

30:46

every single episode of Star Trek,

30:49

the next generation with Captain

30:51

Picard and, you know, Jordi

30:53

Laforge and, oh, I just,

30:55

wharf, I love everything, right. I

30:57

have not watched the last three episodes because

30:59

I don't want it to end. They're still out

31:01

there flying around in the stars to me

31:03

in my head. In my heart, they're still alive.

31:05

I haven't watched it. I haven't watched it. I

31:08

haven't watched the new one with the card because

31:10

that ended the old one. I can't do it.

31:12

I think when you're emotionally invested something,

31:14

it's really hard to accept its ending. I

31:16

don't want to say the ending because I think

31:18

you would really enjoy this show and I think

31:20

you would really enjoy this show and I think

31:22

you should watch the good place before. Not the

31:25

good place was this? Oh, Aaron,

31:27

I think you'd like it. I think

31:29

you would really love that show, but

31:31

the ending to that show is the

31:33

one that sticks out of my mind

31:35

is I think one of the best

31:37

endings I've ever seen. I

31:40

don't necessarily agree with it

31:42

philosophically, but like the ending

31:44

to that show I think is

31:47

perfect. Is that with Kristen Bell?

31:49

Yes. It's a philosophy show. I

31:51

think you'll really like it. Shows

31:53

I've seen this one that I can't wait

31:55

for the next season. It has first seen

31:58

it's like I forget what it's called um

32:00

it's about a lady in a let

32:02

me let me look it up real

32:04

quick banter hold on this is

32:06

a hell of a pitch there it's

32:08

about a lady while you look for

32:11

that I have I have a

32:13

story for you this is a

32:15

hard pivot but something occurred in

32:17

the office yesterday that we have

32:19

to talk about okay hold on

32:21

before you do here it okay

32:24

all right it's called nobody

32:26

once on Netflix on Netflix

32:28

And it's nobody wants this

32:31

nobody wants this so good.

32:33

I feel like we've all seen it

32:35

I feel like we've all seen it

32:37

I've seen it like five times

32:39

over is that not an amazing

32:42

show so The woman in that

32:44

show Kristen Bell is the main

32:46

character in the good. Oh, yeah,

32:48

look at that more serendipity love

32:51

it. That is nobody wants this

32:53

so good. It's so well written.

32:55

I gets one and it's fucking

32:57

funny. Yeah. I love it. I love

32:59

it. And the, yeah. I can't wait for

33:02

the next season. You know what I

33:04

love about that show, Arian? Is

33:06

that every time that there is

33:08

like an issue in their relationship,

33:10

they just bring it up. Yeah.

33:12

It doesn't become a plot point of

33:15

like, oh my God, I'm lying to

33:17

so and so. They're just gonna

33:19

talk about it. They're just

33:21

gonna motherfuck and talk about

33:24

it. I love that show. Yeah. I love

33:26

it. The mother's relationship with

33:28

shorty is so funny. Oh,

33:30

I know we she caught

33:32

her eating the meat brother Yeah

33:34

Yeah Oh, what a great show.

33:37

I would peg you for

33:39

someone that would like that

33:41

show honestly I was I it

33:43

was nothing I would actually turn

33:45

on I was watching with

33:47

a shorty and it caught

33:49

me hooked Yeah, so good. It

33:52

got me hooked. It was I

33:54

was a really good because I I'm

33:56

only I'm a sucker for ROMcoms anyway.

33:58

I love ROMcoms, right? And this is

34:01

like a romcom that is very

34:03

well written. Very witty. Very witty.

34:05

Very, just, I love it. This

34:07

is a great show, man. Great

34:09

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I'm about to tell a story.

35:33

And I think it might be

35:35

better suited if everyone listens to

35:37

it in 2X or skips it

35:39

entirely, but that's just my own

35:41

opinion. No, don't skip it. I

35:43

act a bit crazy. And the

35:45

boys suggest that it would be

35:47

funnier if you listen to it

35:50

in 2X. And here you go.

35:52

So, Madeline yesterday. Uh-huh. Lost her

35:54

mind in a way that I've

35:56

never seen before. I mean she

35:58

flew off multiple handles so Nikki

36:00

smokes one of many characters here.

36:02

A bit of a bit of

36:04

a maverick to some would say.

36:06

He committed what I would say

36:08

is a fairly egregious office no

36:11

no. It was a bad thing

36:13

of him to do. He microwaved

36:15

salmon and cauliflower in the office.

36:17

In a group in an open

36:19

setting microwave in the kitchen of

36:21

our office. that everyone can smell.

36:23

So I was unaware that that

36:25

had occurred until I just heard

36:27

Madeline start screaming and saying things

36:29

that I mean she was cussing

36:31

this guy up and down I

36:34

believe there were just saying some

36:36

of the craziest stuff you've ever

36:38

heard and I mean in his

36:40

I remember one quote was um

36:42

you're such a dick this is

36:44

why I hate you. I didn't

36:46

hear that. Like, just, I believe

36:48

you described the smell at one

36:50

point as, quote, burnt vagina, in

36:52

quote. It smelled so bad area.

36:55

And it was, I mean, she

36:57

just cussing this guy up and

36:59

down. It was quite a scene.

37:01

I believe it's in, it'll be

37:03

on camera on Friday. Thank God,

37:05

I'm so happy. But that's on

37:07

camera. Wow. I can't wait to

37:09

see. It really just, it was.

37:11

The maddest I've ever been at

37:13

work for sure. It sounds like

37:15

the tip of the iceberg because.

37:18

So it wasn't even Smokes that,

37:20

well Smokes is like what, he's

37:22

annoying a lot of the times.

37:24

I was having a rough week,

37:26

I've been in a bad mood

37:28

for a couple days. That's no

37:30

crime. I am allowed to be

37:32

in a bad mood. Now. A

37:34

lot of people see me around

37:36

here, and I hope I bring

37:39

this to the listeners, that I

37:41

try to be pretty happy-go-lucky most

37:43

of the time. I would hope

37:45

that you guys would agree. Yeah.

37:47

I have been in a mood

37:49

recently, and... Also for added context,

37:51

last week, Aryan, someone at this

37:53

office shat so hard into one

37:55

of the toilets, it was overflowing

37:57

and a mess, and then another

38:00

one of our coworkers decided to

38:02

tweet a picture of it. So

38:04

then I just saw a picture

38:06

of man shit in my office.

38:08

Which is different than woman shit.

38:10

Aryan, this was man shit, like

38:12

this was disgusting. And so that

38:14

was disgusting. And I was like,

38:16

God, you guys are a bunch

38:18

of animals. That puts you in

38:20

a lasting bad mood? That was

38:23

last week. No, I know. That

38:25

didn't put me in a lasting

38:27

bad mood. I'm just saying, men

38:29

have been gross, have been gross

38:31

here recently. And then the case

38:33

race and they're fucking eaten puke,

38:35

puke, whatever. So men have been

38:37

gross for a couple days in

38:39

this office. It seems like a

38:41

generalization, but continue, but continue. I'm

38:44

just saying. The poop thing's happened.

38:46

The poop thing happens. I'm like,

38:48

ugh, you guys are nasty. The

38:50

poop thing was bad. And also

38:52

people tweeting pictures of it. I'm

38:54

like, we don't need to see

38:56

it. I believe you had to

38:58

click through to look at the

39:00

picture. So on my desktop, no.

39:02

On my desktop, I don't get

39:04

that. And I go through Twitter

39:07

on my desktop, like when I'm

39:09

at work, and it was just

39:11

loud and clear. There was no

39:13

warning for me. There was no

39:15

warning for me. There was no

39:17

warning for me. Aryan, I am

39:19

sitting at my desk, which is

39:21

30 feet away from the microwave,

39:23

and I am hit in the

39:25

face with a smell. I literally

39:28

can only describe as like burnt

39:30

vagina. Like it was, I was

39:32

gagging, McKenzie was there. McKenzie also

39:34

didn't smell it somehow. I was

39:36

gagging dry heaving at my desk,

39:38

it caught me like. like a

39:40

slap in the face. And I

39:42

was like, what could this possibly

39:44

be? And I didn't know what

39:46

it was at first. I was

39:49

like, this is a repungent smell.

39:51

And then I heard these whispers

39:53

that. that Nikki smokes had heated

39:55

up fish in the office microwave.

39:57

And it, something within my body

39:59

truly, like, freaked the fuck out.

40:01

And I literally got up, I

40:03

stormed to the microwave, and I

40:05

literally freaked out on him, and

40:07

I said, you're a dick for

40:09

this, why would you ever do

40:12

something like this? Like, and he

40:14

said, there's no one in the

40:16

office this week, as 10 people

40:18

are standing in the freaking kitchen.

40:20

So it's just because like big

40:22

cats not here that you want

40:24

to like microwave fish. Like I'm

40:26

a person too. I deserve to

40:28

not have my nose be like

40:30

absolutely a solids. Not, let me,

40:33

I don't really eat fish like

40:35

that. Like I don't have a

40:37

problem with it. It's just it

40:39

doesn't taste that good to me,

40:41

right? It has to be prepared

40:43

where I like sushi, but like

40:45

slab fish. Is it always smelled

40:47

bad? It does, it did smell

40:49

bad. It smelled ridiculous, ridiculously gross.

40:51

Well, why would you eat that

40:53

if it smelled bad? Well, and

40:56

so here's the fucking thing, Arion,

40:58

is why would you heat that

41:00

up? And also, I, him and

41:02

I are the same age. We

41:04

have been in the workforce for

41:06

the same amount of time. Smokes,

41:08

also had a real job before

41:10

Barstool. You, you know. You don't

41:12

bring in a fillet of salmon

41:14

and steamed cauliflower and throw that

41:17

shit in a microwave that everyone

41:19

uses and will waft out that

41:21

is like office etiquette 101 don't

41:23

I didn't know I was conjuring

41:25

up bad memories and I told

41:27

you she was mad this it

41:29

was it's just such a lack

41:31

of awareness and he's sitting there

41:33

with his dumb fucking face looking

41:35

at me being like I didn't

41:37

know You knew and also I

41:40

bet you could fucking know when

41:42

it was 15 seconds in and

41:44

it started to sniff I Bet

41:46

you knew then to and you

41:48

just kept going because you're on

41:50

75 hard and you need eat

41:52

your salmon fillet. I literally lost

41:54

my ever loving mine. I just

41:56

thought it was so rude. Was

41:58

anybody else upset? No. Well, people

42:01

were like, ew, that smells really

42:03

bad. I'm the one that led

42:05

the charge on like, I think

42:07

you need to be like publicly

42:09

humiliated for this. And I told

42:11

him it was like a dick

42:13

move and that like you shouldn't

42:15

be doing this in the office

42:17

and like it's a super self

42:19

like it's just like really really

42:22

really like I think a selfish

42:24

move. And then he tried to

42:26

shake my hand and be like,

42:28

oh, we're all good, right? And

42:30

I said, no, I don't want

42:32

to touch your fishy vagina hands.

42:34

Actually, I don't. I don't want

42:36

to have your salmon waft upon

42:38

me. So yeah, it was just

42:40

really, really annoying. And I just

42:42

like find it stupid that he

42:45

would do something like that. And

42:47

that's yeah. Like that's what it

42:49

like it was like it was

42:51

just kind of like a when

42:53

you know you know situation like

42:55

I just was like it's that's

42:57

what it smells like and I

42:59

and I I Literally try my

43:01

best to like be friends with

43:03

everyone here and I like try

43:06

to be nice all the time

43:08

I Have never been more mad

43:10

at a person in this office

43:12

than I was yesterday at Nicky

43:14

Smokes. And it's just the way

43:16

that he was so aloof about

43:18

it too. He wasn't like, oh

43:20

my God, I'm so sorry if

43:22

it smelled bad. 30 feet away

43:24

in a different part of the

43:26

office while I'm trying to work.

43:29

He was just like, what do

43:31

you mean? Like, I just heated

43:33

up my fish. Your fish? It's

43:35

February and it's a Tuesday afternoon

43:37

and I have to smell your

43:39

fish now? What did I do

43:41

to deserve this? What did I

43:43

do to have to smell your

43:45

salmon and cauliflower? Also and cauliflower

43:47

by the way, which is also

43:50

not a like delightful smell if

43:52

you were if you were wondering.

43:54

And people are gonna comment. I

43:56

thought this was gonna be a

43:58

two minute deal. I didn't. Yeah,

44:00

you knew how mad I was

44:02

yesterday and people. to come and

44:04

say, Madeline's such a bitch and

44:06

Madeline's so awful and Madeline is

44:08

annoying for thinking this is a

44:11

big deal. You know what? I

44:13

overreacted. But sometimes I think... Twice.

44:15

Yes. But sometimes I said this

44:17

to my mom last night because

44:19

I was like, am I crazy?

44:21

And she was like, yeah, you

44:23

are crazy. But... Wait, so you

44:25

went home from work and called

44:27

your mom? Like... Are

44:30

you crying? No, sometimes I tell

44:32

stories I'm here, I just get

44:34

teary. I laugh. Like sometimes the

44:37

men here, I just feel like

44:39

have no decorum and like, like,

44:41

need some discipline. And I also

44:43

think that smokes did something like

44:45

that because he knew Big Cat

44:47

was gone and like, Big Cat

44:49

would have been like, what the

44:52

hell are you doing? That's my

44:54

two cents. Wait until Big Cat

44:56

left the office to cook his

44:58

fish. I don't think he... I

45:00

think he did it, Arian. No,

45:02

I think he's an idiot. Well,

45:04

he is an idiot also. That's

45:07

why he did it. Like he

45:09

had a plan. Like I can't.

45:11

New Orleans, when New Orleans comes

45:13

around, Super Bowl comes around, I'm

45:15

gonna bring my fish. I actually...

45:17

I respect if he did that.

45:19

Because like, like he's been lying

45:21

in wait. He might be smart

45:24

then. Like... But it's also like,

45:26

no one's in the office, I

45:28

figured I could do it. So

45:30

he knew that it was going

45:32

to stink at least a little

45:34

bit. And also like, there are,

45:36

it's not, everyone's gone. It's not

45:39

like Nikki Smokes is like the

45:41

only person here. There are other

45:43

people that work at this place.

45:45

And like now I've got to

45:47

smell your fish on Tuesday at

45:49

noon. Like that is so disgusting.

45:51

So yeah, did I overreact? Yes.

45:53

Is it probably the craziest I've

45:56

ever acted at work? I need

45:58

to put a foot down. And

46:00

I think if you were there you would agree. I

46:02

don't know man. I don't think I would but I

46:05

know but now Big T's making me spread the story

46:07

and I'm gonna be even more crazy. I think you

46:09

have you a chance to say your peace and. It

46:11

seems like you needed it. Yeah. I think this is

46:13

gonna be one of those things that's like every time

46:16

you ask about it for the next 10 years I'm

46:18

gonna get just as mad. That seems a bit, that

46:20

seems like a bit much. I know, but like, it

46:22

just really riled me up in a way I didn't

46:24

know I had in me in a work class. I

46:26

did have it, I mean, like, so if I was

46:29

to actually warm my fish up, like, I don't feel

46:31

like you just snapped on me like that, even like

46:33

my, my, my, come on, man, you know what I'm

46:35

saying? No, I would probably be like, Aaron, what the

46:37

hell are you doing, what the hell are you doing,

46:39

what the hell are you doing, what the, what the,

46:42

what the, what the, what the, what the, what the,

46:44

what the, what the, what the, what the, what the,

46:46

what the, what the, what the, what the, what, what,

46:48

what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what,

46:50

what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what,

46:53

what, what, had everything to do with who it was

46:55

like imagine if Kurt formed a fish oh well if

46:57

I mean you'd be yeah I mean you might slap

46:59

you might slap you're like there would be physical and

47:01

that's what I'm saying so I think I had more

47:03

to do with Nikki well and it was also his

47:06

reaction he wasn't sorry about it he was he was

47:08

aloof about the whole situation I asked a question that

47:10

I I this just occurred to me I can't believe

47:12

I hadn't thought of this earlier you mentioned Nikki smokes's

47:14

lack of office to quorum Would you

47:17

also say that screaming at people in

47:19

the middle of an office and cursing

47:21

at them would potentially also qualify as

47:23

a lack of office decorum? Yes, but

47:25

it was more of a reaction to

47:27

the original. That's fair, but if we're

47:30

criticizing... No, and totally it was an

47:32

overreaction on my part, but do you

47:34

see me like I'm owning up to

47:36

the fact that it was an over

47:38

overreaction I do not see Nicky smokes

47:40

I did not see him owning up

47:43

to the fact that it was the

47:45

wrong choice to warm up fish I

47:47

think he did say that well after

47:49

I was yeah screaming in his face

47:51

and he did that just so I

47:54

would shut up Well, what'd you want

47:56

me to say? No, no, go off.

47:58

Nikki smokes. That's my, that's my made

48:00

off, made off. That's my made off.

48:02

Like, don't do that. Don't do that

48:04

and then be, be so aloof for

48:07

that. How could it possibly even? You

48:09

smelled it too. Nick. Charles, your real

48:11

name? Wow. Really funny. Listen to on.

48:13

times two speed just her goal. And

48:15

like I'll like I don't know it

48:17

just was like I was in a

48:20

really bad mood and like that was

48:22

just like the straw that broke the

48:24

camels back and then to have it

48:26

be from Nikki Smokes of all people

48:28

like it was just the perfect storm

48:30

honestly. And yeah should we record you

48:33

saying something to put in front of

48:35

that and be like listen to this

48:37

in two X if you want to

48:39

see me go off? Yes sure sure.

48:41

Go ahead. Okay I'm about to tell

48:44

a story. And I think it might

48:46

be better suited if everyone listens to

48:48

it in 2x or skips it entirely,

48:50

but that's just my own opinion. No,

48:52

don't skip it. I act a bit

48:54

crazy. And the boys suggest that it

48:57

would be funnier if you listen to

48:59

it in 2x. And here you go.

49:01

And sane, beautiful. Yeah. Like, but now

49:03

people are going to think I'm a

49:05

bitch. We're going back. But now people

49:07

are going to think I'm like a

49:10

mega bitch, which like. And no, it's

49:12

better to get in front of it.

49:14

It's because that'll come out on Friday

49:16

So this is good. I like I

49:18

said if you didn't want me to

49:21

mention that and it wasn't recorded I

49:23

wouldn't have but it was already coming

49:25

out So yeah, I just like it

49:27

really it really rubbed me the wrong

49:29

way and I told everyone I knew

49:31

actually I just told my mom But

49:34

it was just really disgusting and

49:37

it was just the most repugent

49:39

smell I've ever responded my life

49:41

I think the word you're looking

49:43

for is repugnant God, and I

49:46

sound too stupid too Pungent is

49:48

pungent is another word that it

49:50

could also describe it. Yeah, it's

49:52

pungent It hit my nose like

49:55

Muhammad Ali in the 70s. Is

49:57

that when he was boxing Yeah,

49:59

it's probably is prime, but yeah,

50:01

60s or 70s it hit me

50:04

in huge it's my favorite stinky

50:06

word yeah it was putrid too

50:08

stinky it was all the above

50:10

it was like it was like

50:12

it was it was it was

50:15

it was really really really really

50:17

really bad and it made me

50:19

really mad and anyways moving on

50:21

please change the subject before I

50:24

keep going yeah I don't where

50:26

where do we go from here

50:28

when I fish that's for god

50:30

damn show what do you go

50:33

to go to your list man

50:35

what's on big t's list You

50:37

had something again, it seems. Well,

50:39

for Arion, not like for me.

50:41

Oh, sure. Go ahead. We've missed

50:44

you on Monday after the whole

50:46

Kendrick sweep. Oh. They bring out

50:48

the broom from a dog, didn't

50:50

they? It's bad at this point,

50:53

because now the narrative is, it's

50:55

a, I guess a, a conspiracy

50:57

against Drake. Right? It's this elitist.

50:59

They're trying to take down the

51:02

boy conspiracy, right? I hear a

51:04

lot of the chatter on going

51:06

back and forth with Drake and

51:08

his fans. But I mean, it's

51:10

one of the greatest hip-hop songs

51:13

to be released, honestly, as far

51:15

as its acclaim and its impact

51:17

and its notoriety. And so I

51:19

knew he was going to run

51:22

a Grammy for it when I

51:24

saw the impact that it was

51:26

having. I think this is going

51:28

to be a Grammy's Love Kendrick.

51:31

I think rightfully so. But I

51:33

was happy for my dog, man.

51:35

That's my goal. It was a

51:37

great, great moment in hip-hop. It

51:39

was one of the best battles

51:42

of all time. No one-sided on

51:44

my scorecard, but it was great.

51:46

It's great to see two heavy

51:48

weights go at it. And it's

51:51

kind of funny to see Drake

51:53

leave the country. At before Grammys

51:55

and for the Super Bowl. I

51:57

think it's good for his mental

52:00

health, honestly, because that would be

52:02

tough to see your L celebrated

52:04

by so many people. do understand

52:06

that. But that's what's dangerous about

52:08

Kendrick, man. He warned you, stop

52:11

playing with me, while I turn

52:13

you into a song. And that's

52:15

what happened. So I got swept

52:17

and one of the funnier part

52:20

was, I don't know if Kendrick

52:22

is this diabolical, like he's like

52:24

a super villain or not, but

52:26

he accepted the Grammy speech in

52:29

what they call a Canadian tuxedo.

52:31

And it's just an all-gen suit,

52:33

you guess it? Yeah. And so

52:35

he accepted it in a Canadian

52:37

tuxedo. And he had Taylor Swift

52:40

dancing to the song and the

52:42

entire crowd was saying a minor.

52:44

It's just bad. It's bad. And

52:46

if I was drank, I'd be

52:49

pissed too. And I think he's

52:51

in Perth or some shit right

52:53

now. Melbourne, wherever. He's somewhere in

52:55

Australia and he's trying to be

52:58

as far away from the noise

53:00

as possible. Oh, and Lucien was

53:02

high-fiven. Dr. Drey, I don't know

53:04

if you all saw that, Lucien

53:07

is like the head of UMG

53:09

I believe. Lucien Grange, yeah. Yeah,

53:11

and he was high-fiving Dr. Drey,

53:13

and yeah, it's just not good

53:15

look, but that's why, that's what

53:18

the Drake conspiracies come in, is

53:20

like, they're all against him. It's

53:22

a, it's a conspiracy, they're trying

53:24

to take him sweet. I

53:27

was just this this was a pivot

53:30

from that have you acknowledged that the

53:32

Lakers getting one of the best basketball

53:34

players in the world is good yet.

53:36

We talked about this on Monday so

53:38

we don't have to go too much

53:40

into it but I just I need

53:42

I need to hear you say it.

53:44

I listen the reason why I don't

53:46

think it's the best for the Lakers

53:48

is like this. The Lakers are doing

53:50

it. I know why they're doing it

53:52

right. LA needs a superstar. LA will

53:54

always need a superstar that's LA Boston

53:56

like those are cornerstones in NBA and

53:58

they need superstars to carry them. I

54:00

think Luker is one of the most

54:02

talented basketball players in the world, absolutely.

54:04

But that style of play, I've never

54:06

been in favor of, right? And it's

54:08

not just me. Kobe said the same

54:10

thing about James Harden. They have very

54:12

similar games, right? Before Kobe died, he

54:14

got a lot of flack for this,

54:16

and he turned out to be absolutely

54:18

correct. He said, I don't think that

54:20

he'll ever win a championship like that.

54:22

He'll ever win a championship like that.

54:24

James Harder was average in 36 a

54:26

game and and Kobe was all record

54:28

saying he's not he's what he's doing

54:30

is unbelievable He said, but he's not

54:32

going to championship like that Lukas way

54:34

better than James Hardin He is not

54:36

a better score than James Harder was

54:38

he was average in 36. Did you

54:40

hear what I said? 36 a game?

54:42

Lukas are better player than James Hardin.

54:44

I Think they're similar players, right? They're

54:46

very ball dominant and this is what

54:48

Kobe was talking about. He's ball dominant.

54:50

He slows the pace of the game

54:52

down with his scoring That's how he

54:54

plays. And I'm not a fan of

54:56

that play style. Now, listen, I've already,

54:58

the Luca fans are gonna come out

55:00

to the world, you know, ECT, you

55:02

don't know basketball, blah, blah, blah, blah,

55:04

blah. Hey, I hope he's the best

55:06

basketball the world has ever seen. I

55:08

hope he plays the best basketball ever.

55:10

Like, I'm a Laker fan. I will

55:12

absolutely roof a cut. I just think

55:14

that style of play is not very

55:16

conducive to win in championships to win

55:18

in championships. It's not just my opinion,

55:20

like I said, Kobe got rose for

55:22

it and it turned out to be

55:24

true. It's hard to win like that,

55:26

especially in the playoffs. In the playoffs,

55:28

the possession slowed down. And in playoffs,

55:30

you gain plan for the offense a

55:32

little better, like Kobe said. It's easy

55:34

to keep in front of you. That's

55:36

my opinion, my basketball opinion. And so

55:38

I'm not thrilled with it. Like I

55:40

said, I think he's an amazing player.

55:42

I just, I'm not a fan of

55:44

his style of his style of play.

55:46

My hope is that he gets to

55:48

be around LeBron these next two years,

55:50

maybe having long LeBron got left and

55:52

he's going crazy right he ever is

55:54

in like 28 right now. I think

55:56

in the last month. My hope is

55:58

he gets around LeBron and he sees

56:00

how LeBron works. The reason why LeBron

56:02

is able to do what he's doing

56:04

at age 40 is because of how

56:06

he takes care of his body and

56:08

how he prepares. I think there's very

56:10

few humans in the world that do

56:12

this, and he's doing it. I think

56:14

there's very few humans in the world

56:16

that do this, and he's one of

56:18

them. And if you can get around

56:20

that and mimic that, then you can

56:22

extend your career, you can extend your

56:24

basketball, because LeBron is one of the

56:26

next decade. We'll see I just okay,

56:29

I think it's crazy that you're not

56:31

like over the moon I just told

56:33

you I wasn't why would I be

56:35

why would I be over the moon

56:37

about something who I feel like it's

56:39

gonna slow the pace of the game

56:41

down and and score a bunch of

56:43

points But we're not gonna win that

56:45

doesn't make no sense. I would I

56:47

would be shocked if the Lakers are

56:49

not very good for the majority of

56:51

the time they have luka I

56:53

hope that's the game. I hope that's

56:55

good. He took the Mavericks to the

56:58

finals last year and they weren't very

57:00

good outside. Houston was great when James

57:02

Hardin was, you know what I'm saying,

57:05

I'm not saying they're going to be

57:07

O and 82. Houston was great, they're

57:09

going to that. Houston was great, they

57:12

went to that conference finals. They did

57:14

very well with Hardin. I said it's

57:16

not conducive to winning championships. It's hard

57:18

to win championships. with that style of

57:21

play. And I think when people, like,

57:23

when people criticize your superstar, they always

57:25

make it personal. Like, bro, I don't

57:28

give a fuck about, like, how you

57:30

feel about Luka, not you in general,

57:32

but it's like, Luka fans are fucking

57:35

insane, dog. Like, like, I was drinking

57:37

a little bit when the trade happened.

57:39

And I was just expressing my basketball

57:42

opinion, all about my favorite team. And

57:44

these niggies started going at me like.

57:46

It's like personal, right? And I was

57:49

like, I wasn't in the mood for

57:51

it, so I did what I usually

57:53

do. I said pull up, you know

57:56

what I mean? Pull the fuck up.

57:58

And the next day I rescinded that.

58:00

But it just gets to the point

58:03

where it's like, Doug, they said. It's

58:05

saying we ain't talking basketball anymore. Like

58:07

you think I'll take a personal shot

58:10

to this man. I don't know this

58:12

man. I have a basketball pin. It's

58:14

like you have basketball pin. I guarantee

58:16

you everybody that fans wise. Anyway, I'll

58:19

dog every one of y'all at ball.

58:21

Just wait until the 2027 NBA finals

58:23

when Luca and Dalton Connect combined for

58:26

56 a game. It's gonna be scenes.

58:28

No defense. Yeah, whatsoever. You gotta admit

58:30

that he don't play no deep. It

58:33

doesn't matter. It's the NBA. Nobody plays

58:35

defense. It is not true. It is

58:37

not true though. It used to me

58:40

that they would play defense in the

58:42

playoffs and now they don't even do

58:44

that. That's just not true. I think

58:47

it's a fun thing to say. Like

58:49

I saw the, I watched the, um.

58:51

Somebody posted is is is he Croatian?

58:54

Luca what Serbian? I forget Slovenian Slovenian

58:56

Yeah, one of them up there whatever

58:58

country he's from the last guy they

59:01

had from that country with Sasha Vuyachich

59:03

who so somebody posted a clip of

59:05

him hitting the free throws to win

59:08

the oh eight or nine finals and

59:10

the the game seven was like 86

59:12

to 84 like it used to be

59:14

radically different now the playoff games are

59:17

120 to 116 like You

59:19

have to play. And part of that's

59:21

because the win, the scoring has gotten

59:23

much better, but still. You have to.

59:26

And that's another part of this, while

59:28

I was so upset, was like, people

59:30

are acting like AD, is just some

59:32

regular, third is a hall of famous.

59:34

First ballot, hall of famous. It's a

59:36

good player. Who's one of the top

59:38

defenders in the league at his position,

59:41

and it'll give you 30 a night.

59:43

He's also 32 and gets hurt all

59:45

the time. Lucas hurt when this train

59:47

went on. You know what I'm saying?

59:49

Like this is, this is, it was

59:51

the disparate goal for AAD that that

59:54

blew my mind. Like he's just some,

59:56

yeah, what do you mean? Now we're

59:58

in search of a big man. We

1:00:00

don't have no presence in the middle.

1:00:02

And he. That's not easy. They're going

1:00:04

to get one. Huh? They're going to

1:00:06

get one. Also, that's for that's very

1:00:09

short term. This was my problem with

1:00:11

the trade was just people are so

1:00:13

horny over Luka that you forget what

1:00:15

you lost. You should be horny for

1:00:17

Luka. I am not. I'm sorry. I

1:00:19

would love to be proven wrong. If

1:00:21

he helps LA win a chip, so

1:00:24

you think you think the Liggers will

1:00:26

not win a single championship with Luka.

1:00:28

I think that it is hard. I

1:00:30

don't make any declarative statement. Because I

1:00:32

would bet you a lot of money

1:00:34

that they win a championship with him.

1:00:36

Maybe. I don't know. I don't know.

1:00:39

Do you agree with Kobe's point that

1:00:41

it's hard to win championships like that?

1:00:43

Yes, ideally all of your players are

1:00:45

outstanding scores and great defenders, but it

1:00:47

doesn't work like that. Ball dominant points.

1:00:49

It's hard to win like that. It

1:00:51

is very hard to win like that.

1:00:54

Championships. You're going to win games. You're

1:00:56

going to smoke points. He's going to

1:00:58

be first female NBA. He's going to

1:01:00

be all-star. None of that is debated.

1:01:02

I'm not questioning his talent. I think

1:01:04

his style of play, to me, it's

1:01:07

hard to win championships like that. It's

1:01:09

hard. Is Steph ball dominant? Huh? No,

1:01:11

he takes a lot of shots. He

1:01:13

can be, but he's not ball dominant.

1:01:15

So like, he'll, he can get his

1:01:17

shot off very quickly. Lucas, he's a,

1:01:19

he's like, I don't say a set

1:01:22

shooter, but like he's, he can't get

1:01:24

his shot off as quick. He's probably

1:01:26

quicker to pass than Luka. There, in

1:01:28

the nowhere in the case, he's quicker,

1:01:30

he's way quicker. It's just two different

1:01:32

styles. And not only that, like, like,

1:01:34

like, the pieces, the pieces, the pieces,

1:01:37

the pieces, that were around, the pieces

1:01:39

that were around step were around step

1:01:41

were around step, that were around step,

1:01:43

that were around step, that were around

1:01:45

step, were around step, And like I

1:01:47

said, that high screen roll ball dominant

1:01:49

point, it's just hard to win in

1:01:52

this game. If you, if I'm wrong,

1:01:54

I'm wrong, like, that I will be

1:01:56

happy. I'm not rooting against Lakers. That's

1:01:58

my squad. I'm a Lakers fan. I'm

1:02:00

just not as I don't know like

1:02:02

if you're not like Lucas the

1:02:04

best basketball player in the

1:02:07

world like people are getting

1:02:09

mad at you like sorry

1:02:11

to me he's not he's probably

1:02:13

second I don't he's

1:02:16

probably second I don't think

1:02:18

so I guarantee the Los

1:02:20

Angeles Lakers will win at

1:02:22

least one NBA championship with

1:02:25

Luko on their team guarantee

1:02:27

it I hope you're right I

1:02:29

hope you're right. What do you

1:02:32

want me to say? No, it might

1:02:34

be, you know, that might be six,

1:02:36

seven, eight years, I don't know,

1:02:38

but they will do it. Right, man.

1:02:40

I hope you're correct. We'll find

1:02:43

out. I hope you're correct.

1:02:45

Yeah. I hope we're still doing this

1:02:47

show when it happens. The show.

1:02:49

And even if not, facetime.

1:02:52

Yeah, we'll keep in touch. Yeah. I

1:02:54

think. Damn, you already

1:02:56

divorcing me, big thing? No, no, I'm

1:02:58

just, I'm trying to, like, if we

1:03:00

didn't do this show, would, how often

1:03:02

would you and I talk? I don't know.

1:03:04

We look, we started a group chat,

1:03:07

I like group chats. I talked to

1:03:09

dudes. I talked to dudes that I

1:03:11

went to high school with 20 years

1:03:13

ago. I do think it would be like,

1:03:15

if, for whatever reason and that's

1:03:17

not happening, we stopped doing this

1:03:19

show, like, like, I talked to

1:03:21

area, six hours a day near

1:03:24

anybody, Yeah,

1:03:26

and I don't know that I've

1:03:28

ever talked to anybody in this

1:03:30

capacity this much. Yeah. It's kind

1:03:32

of hard having a podcast,

1:03:35

actually. Our lives are really

1:03:37

hard. Well, I mean, I mean, I

1:03:39

mean, think about it, Doug, like,

1:03:41

so this lukefishes, this shit,

1:03:43

right? I would never publicly

1:03:46

proclaim my opinion about

1:03:48

this shit, right? But like you asked me

1:03:50

on a podcast and between me and you

1:03:52

I would have this conversation between one of

1:03:54

my boys in me as a matter of

1:03:56

fact I don't know if you know glasses

1:03:58

belong. He's a rapper. Yeah. him and one

1:04:00

of my do's back from San Diego

1:04:02

he hit they hit me on the

1:04:04

three-way call we talk about the Lukatray

1:04:07

right just like chop it up with

1:04:09

the boys like but when you want

1:04:11

to podcast like you have like you

1:04:13

gotta have opinion about shit and I'm

1:04:15

not that opinionated over a lot of

1:04:17

stuff in all honestly but it's like

1:04:19

having a podcast like you kind of

1:04:21

have to talk and that's before you've

1:04:23

said this before yeah and it's still

1:04:25

kind of new to me honestly like

1:04:27

especially this frequently This

1:04:29

frequently like keeping up with

1:04:31

current events and stuff. I

1:04:33

try not to honestly There's

1:04:36

a lot of shit going

1:04:38

on in the world dog

1:04:40

deaf died disease hunger games

1:04:42

Everything I like to focus

1:04:44

on the games You got

1:04:46

to have a niche. I'm

1:04:48

super in the golf right

1:04:51

now. So but it's just

1:04:53

it's hard to have You

1:04:55

thumb on the pulse of

1:04:57

the people especially when you're

1:04:59

pessimist especially when you're pessimist

1:05:01

because It all boils down

1:05:04

to, I don't know, like,

1:05:06

give a fuck, man. Oh,

1:05:08

fuck, man. But I don't

1:05:10

think you're there. I think

1:05:12

you still have hope in

1:05:14

this place. I like that.

1:05:16

Me? Yeah. Uh, what do

1:05:19

you mean by this place?

1:05:21

Just the world? Yeah. care

1:05:23

less about a lot of

1:05:25

shit that doesn't matter. Yeah.

1:05:27

So I've been actively trying

1:05:29

to lessen my consumption of,

1:05:31

you know, a lot of

1:05:34

that kind of stuff. So

1:05:36

I don't know that I

1:05:38

have an opinion one way

1:05:40

or the other on the

1:05:42

future of things. I do.

1:05:44

But I digress. I've got

1:05:47

a hard pivot that's that's

1:05:49

happier than wherever your your

1:05:51

heads out? I live in

1:05:53

a perpetual state of pessimism

1:05:55

brother. I know how to

1:05:57

adapt what's happening. So there

1:05:59

was a tweet that was

1:06:02

going viral about some woman

1:06:04

saying that she would have

1:06:06

nightmares about the guy in

1:06:08

the empire flooring commercial 800

1:06:10

588-2-300 empire? Y'all are familiar?

1:06:12

Yes. It sounds familiar but

1:06:15

I'd have to... Oh, well,

1:06:17

so that's a good segue.

1:06:19

I wanted to talk about

1:06:21

everyone's top TV jingles of

1:06:23

all time. Oh, oh, one

1:06:25

at, and there's a bunch,

1:06:27

but the top two that

1:06:30

just, no, three now, okay.

1:06:32

The winner, no, the. Press

1:06:34

goes better. Mentos, President. Man,

1:06:36

oh man, man, those ready

1:06:38

for the lot. Mentos, the

1:06:40

Freshmaker. Y'all remember that one?

1:06:42

I might have been a

1:06:45

little before your time. No,

1:06:47

I'm not familiar with that.

1:06:49

The other one is, I

1:06:51

am stuck on Band-A-Branx. Take

1:06:53

them on me. That's a

1:06:55

good one. And then my

1:06:58

other one would be, um,

1:07:00

it's the Flint Stones one.

1:07:02

We are Flynn Stones, kid.

1:07:04

The Flint Stones? Yeah. Oh

1:07:06

shit, I forgot. Is the

1:07:08

Million Straw? Agrow. Yeah, I

1:07:10

think that's it. Yeah. Those

1:07:13

went crazy. The Flint Stones

1:07:15

vitamins? Yeah, man. Oh, fun

1:07:17

fact about the McDonald's jingle.

1:07:19

I'm loving it. The person

1:07:21

who composed that, that shafted,

1:07:23

by the way, but the

1:07:26

person who composed that only

1:07:28

got 500,000 off rip for

1:07:30

it. Oh my God. Yeah,

1:07:32

but no, I mean, it

1:07:34

was one of the most

1:07:36

brilliant jingles of all times.

1:07:38

McDonald's, you should have got

1:07:41

residuals, but yeah, I was

1:07:43

gonna say like royalties. Pushes

1:07:45

T. Pushes T made the

1:07:47

McDonald's single. Yeah. When was

1:07:49

that? A long time ago.

1:07:51

But I feel I'm. That's

1:07:54

not been that long ago.

1:07:56

Yeah, what? What do you

1:07:58

mean? If it was push

1:08:00

a T? 2000s? Early 2000s?

1:08:02

Yeah, that's not that long

1:08:04

ago. Brother, that's 20 years

1:08:06

ago. I know, but relative

1:08:09

to, I thought they'd had

1:08:11

that forever. No. That's relatively,

1:08:13

November of 2003, it says

1:08:15

it was released originally. Right.

1:08:17

That's, that was the heyday,

1:08:19

chicken selects. That's back when

1:08:21

that place was popping. I

1:08:24

liked growing up Reese's Puffs,

1:08:26

Reese's Puffs, Peaf's, peanut butter

1:08:28

chocolate flavor. Oh yeah, when

1:08:30

Reese's Puffs came out. That

1:08:32

was like when we were

1:08:34

growing up. Yeah. Nationwide is

1:08:37

on your side? Yeah. Yep.

1:08:39

But yeah, I love, I

1:08:41

love the Empire flooring songs.

1:08:43

I was just... Oh my

1:08:45

god, you know which one

1:08:47

I loved? Um, get connected

1:08:49

full free. Oh, classic education

1:08:52

connection. Get connected. That one

1:08:54

was on Game Show Network

1:08:56

on Loop. Did you guys

1:08:58

have like a specific law

1:09:00

firm that had a jingle

1:09:02

like in your local area?

1:09:05

Not a jingle, but we

1:09:07

have a man in Cleveland

1:09:09

that buys up every billboard

1:09:11

space he can and he

1:09:13

does a raised eyebrow. Tim

1:09:15

Misney. I'll make them pay.

1:09:17

That's what he says. I

1:09:20

remember the... the

1:09:22

best part of waking up.

1:09:24

Oh yeah. Being like a

1:09:26

local like TV jingle guy

1:09:28

in like the early 2000s

1:09:30

must have been a really

1:09:32

good job. I feel like

1:09:34

there's probably like one or

1:09:36

two dudes that did that

1:09:38

or women. Sorry. What's that?

1:09:41

You mean like a newscaster?

1:09:43

No, but like a dude

1:09:45

who wrote jingles for like

1:09:47

local franchises. I bet that

1:09:49

was a fun job in

1:09:51

2004. Jingles are fun. Yeah,

1:09:53

that was a I don't

1:09:55

know if y'all never watched

1:09:57

a Jamie Fox. Yeah, like

1:09:59

that may have been before.

1:10:01

our time? Yeah, early 2000,

1:10:03

late 90s. Yeah, maybe. I

1:10:05

mean, late 90s, I was

1:10:08

an infant. It's no excuse.

1:10:10

But Jamie Fox was, that

1:10:12

was his job in the

1:10:14

TV show. He was a

1:10:16

jingle writer. I was going

1:10:18

to say there is another

1:10:20

show. There's like a couple

1:10:22

shows where like the guy's

1:10:24

job is jingle writer. I

1:10:26

feel like there's like a

1:10:28

Disney show like that too,

1:10:30

where it's like the dad

1:10:32

was a jingle writer. I

1:10:35

bet you were watching Arsenio

1:10:37

too, boomer. I was like

1:10:39

a kid, you know what

1:10:41

I mean? But yeah, Arsenio

1:10:43

Hall was, yeah, of course.

1:10:45

I just wanted to call

1:10:47

you a boomer. I'm not

1:10:49

though, I'm a millennial, you

1:10:51

know what I'm saying, we're

1:10:53

the perfect generation. I consider

1:10:55

myself a millennial. But you're

1:10:57

not though. I think you

1:10:59

are, I am. So it,

1:11:02

go, like. 1997 is right

1:11:04

on the some say it's

1:11:06

the last year of millennials

1:11:08

some say it's the first

1:11:10

year of Gen Z. Okay

1:11:12

well you're the ultimate boomer.

1:11:14

Yeah no that's why that's

1:11:16

why I refuse to identify

1:11:18

with Gen Z. Yeah you're

1:11:20

definitely not Gen Z. Yeah

1:11:22

you are. You ain't you

1:11:24

not like us. I want

1:11:26

that retracted you don't get

1:11:29

to you can't say that

1:11:31

anymore. I can. This is

1:11:33

why. This is why. We're

1:11:35

to generate, we're the, we're

1:11:37

the, we're the bridge to

1:11:39

the old world and the

1:11:41

new. We understand and, and,

1:11:43

and lived in a world

1:11:45

where technology was not the

1:11:47

nucleus of the society. And

1:11:49

now we are, we live

1:11:51

in understanding and, and live

1:11:53

in a world where the

1:11:56

technology is the nucleus. And

1:11:58

we have traversed both worlds

1:12:00

and we understand both worlds.

1:12:02

You read the ancient texts?

1:12:04

We did, and those were

1:12:06

called the phone books. Yeah.

1:12:08

I had VCRs growing up.

1:12:10

I've. See the darker ages.

1:12:12

You had VCR. When were

1:12:14

you born? 1997. I had

1:12:16

VCRs. VHS? Yeah. Well, VCR

1:12:18

was the machine that played

1:12:20

the VHS. Yeah. The VHS.

1:12:23

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We had

1:12:25

those areas. When did DVDs

1:12:27

come out? Early 2000s. But

1:12:29

you had both at one

1:12:31

point. Yeah. 95. They came

1:12:33

on 95. Nobody was using

1:12:35

DVDs in 95, but a

1:12:37

DVD player in 1995 was

1:12:39

$5,000. I don't think that's

1:12:41

the case. All my like

1:12:43

tapes, like videos from growing

1:12:45

up are VHS's. Yeah. $800.

1:12:47

Which back then was... What?

1:12:50

I would say it was

1:12:52

$2.5. Okay. What is it?

1:12:54

I'm looking. I say 1.5

1:12:56

$800 in 1995. Yeah. It

1:12:58

also came out in Japan.

1:13:00

Uh, yeah, $1,700. I might

1:13:02

be better at this guessing

1:13:04

game to you though. I've

1:13:06

been keeping small tabs in

1:13:08

my head over the tenure

1:13:10

of our podcast. I think

1:13:12

I am better at this

1:13:14

guessing game. You're not. I

1:13:17

think I have, man. I

1:13:19

will say last night was

1:13:21

the dozen kickoff. And I

1:13:23

watched. all three matches and

1:13:25

I got several bonus round

1:13:27

questions exactly on the nose.

1:13:29

It was like the first

1:13:31

to five. I got some

1:13:33

dead fucking on. Nice. I

1:13:35

know and I just was

1:13:37

like getting you know getting

1:13:39

my practice in before before

1:13:41

our season starts up again.

1:13:44

I considered retirement but you

1:13:46

didn't. I got one one

1:13:48

last ride Brett Farve on

1:13:50

the Vikings. That was one

1:13:52

of his best seasons. Was

1:13:55

it really? Oh yeah, he

1:13:57

was awesome that year. Love

1:13:59

that. They went to the.

1:14:02

That's when they lost to

1:14:04

the Saints in the bounty

1:14:06

gate thing. Didn't even take

1:14:08

any government funds. Shout out

1:14:11

to Brett Fart, no. A

1:14:13

lot of people have been

1:14:15

taking government funds. Talk about

1:14:17

it. I was just referencing

1:14:20

the USAID thing. Honestly, I

1:14:22

haven't even been keeping up.

1:14:24

dissociate myself for a while.

1:14:27

It can get exhausting. Yeah.

1:14:29

Yeah. Did we ever get

1:14:31

to your sheep? Well, I

1:14:33

had the the jingle thing

1:14:36

on it. The other story

1:14:38

was, have you seen the

1:14:40

American woman who went to

1:14:42

Pakistan and is now becoming

1:14:45

like their leader? No. Okay,

1:14:47

so you need to look

1:14:49

into this. It's an American

1:14:52

woman who had been talking

1:14:54

to this Pakistani guy online.

1:14:56

And I guess they made

1:14:58

the determination or she did

1:15:01

that they were going to

1:15:03

be married. So she flies

1:15:05

to Pakistan and this guy

1:15:07

goes her completely to the

1:15:10

point that he had his

1:15:12

family like move out of

1:15:14

their home so that when

1:15:17

she showed up at his

1:15:19

house there was nobody there.

1:15:21

And so now she's become

1:15:23

like a local celebrity and

1:15:26

she's going on the Pakistani

1:15:28

news being like I'm demanding.

1:15:30

$5,000 a week and I'm

1:15:32

gonna like she says she's

1:15:35

gonna rebuild Pakistan and all

1:15:37

this shit and they love

1:15:39

her they're like they she's

1:15:41

the the cultural leader of

1:15:44

the country now wild and

1:15:46

yeah she's funny you should

1:15:48

you should look into it

1:15:51

it's like a seriously she's

1:15:53

like a serious political Not

1:15:55

political she's just they they

1:15:57

think she's hilarious But

1:16:00

yeah, she got ghosted and now

1:16:03

she's, I think she's trying to

1:16:05

stay in Pakistan, it seems. Is

1:16:08

she from here? Yeah. Oh. Yeah,

1:16:10

I mean, I guess, yeah, you

1:16:12

should look into it though. Interesting

1:16:15

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All right, so since PFT is

1:17:42

out in New Orleans for the

1:17:45

Super Week, we're going to do

1:17:47

a topic, but me and Big

1:17:50

T decided to do a bunch

1:17:52

of voicemails, get some macadosion interaction.

1:17:54

So we asked y'all to call

1:17:57

in and y'all did not disappoint.

1:17:59

We appreciate it. So hopefully y'all

1:18:01

enjoy this segment. I'm excited. I

1:18:04

wanted to do a live calling,

1:18:06

but got vetoed. That's okay. Is

1:18:09

that right? You didn't get vetoed.

1:18:11

We will do it. Yes. Impossible

1:18:13

to do on short notice. Yes.

1:18:16

Like I said, got vetoed. The

1:18:18

idea? Technologically, you were vetoed. Yes.

1:18:20

We will get, we will do

1:18:23

it. Got AI vetoed. Okay. Sean

1:18:30

from Tucky. I

1:18:32

had a quick

1:18:34

question for Arian.

1:18:36

Why do you

1:18:38

always call PFT

1:18:40

by his real

1:18:43

name, Eric, RIP,

1:18:45

but you never

1:18:47

call Big T

1:18:49

by his real

1:18:51

name? Can

1:18:58

I answer that quickly before

1:19:00

you? Yeah, good. He didn't

1:19:02

know my name for like

1:19:05

18 months. That that is

1:19:07

part of it. I didn't

1:19:09

know Big T's name for

1:19:12

a good little while and

1:19:14

so I thought his name

1:19:16

had to start with the

1:19:19

T, right? So when they

1:19:21

told me what it was,

1:19:23

I was like, what the

1:19:26

fuck is this? I think

1:19:28

that was initially. And so

1:19:30

when you're introduced to me

1:19:32

as something, that's how you

1:19:35

are in my head. And

1:19:37

so when I see Big

1:19:39

T, I don't see a

1:19:42

Connor. That's very weird to

1:19:44

me. But conversely, PFT. aka

1:19:46

Eric, I think I have

1:19:49

that problem with, I feel

1:19:51

like there's like an authority,

1:19:53

I like to circumnavigate that.

1:19:56

And so PFT has. like

1:19:58

a prestige, right? And he

1:20:00

has built, you know, congrats

1:20:02

to him, he has built

1:20:05

this big, you know, his brand

1:20:07

around himself with Barstool, with PMT,

1:20:10

and everybody calls him PFT. I

1:20:12

like to call him Eric because

1:20:14

nobody calls him Eric because nobody

1:20:17

calls him Eric because nobody calls

1:20:19

him Eric because nobody calls him

1:20:21

Eric. Everybody calls him PFT. And

1:20:24

so it's kind of like a

1:20:26

little jab at him just to

1:20:28

fuck with him. He doesn't mind

1:20:30

obviously if he actually cared that he was

1:20:33

like I don't call me that especially

1:20:35

I would I would never disrespect him right,

1:20:37

but it's just like a little fun

1:20:39

little jab because everybody calls him PFT

1:20:41

and so like it's like I don't know if

1:20:43

you're seeing Coming to America, but

1:20:45

when he was talking about Muhammad

1:20:47

Ali there's a dude in a barber shop and

1:20:50

he was like He's like same thing when

1:20:52

we fought Cassis clay. His name is Muhammad

1:20:54

Muhammad Ali. I'm a calm Cassis. It's kind

1:20:56

of kind of fuck with him. No disrespect.

1:20:58

No disrespect Is

1:21:00

that movie still funny? Oh,

1:21:03

what? Because I've never seen it.

1:21:05

I've never seen it. I've never

1:21:07

seen it, but it seems to

1:21:09

me like something that might have.

1:21:11

Boys in the hub, but you

1:21:14

ain't seen Coming to America. I

1:21:16

could take you down a row

1:21:18

for all of all the hood

1:21:20

classes, man. I'm not I'm not

1:21:22

averse to seeing it. It just

1:21:24

seems like in my brain

1:21:26

something that might not have held

1:21:29

up as well. It's one of those

1:21:31

movies where it was in the moment,

1:21:33

but to me it's always going to

1:21:35

be funny. So I probably have a

1:21:37

little bias when you ask me to

1:21:40

hold up. And there are funny parts

1:21:42

that I still quote to this day,

1:21:44

right? And there's a lot of like

1:21:46

racial humor in it, like which I

1:21:48

don't know, like today, case anything racially,

1:21:50

people get all upset either side.

1:21:53

And so there's a lot of

1:21:55

that, but to me, it's like a

1:21:57

classic, so it's always funny to me.

1:21:59

I don't. I think a movie that

1:22:01

I think would hold up is Life.

1:22:03

Have you seen Life, right? No. I'm

1:22:05

not. To me, that's the cream of

1:22:07

the crop. To me, Life with Eddie

1:22:10

Murphy, Mark Lawrence. To me, that is

1:22:12

the cream of the crop of

1:22:14

black movies. That's like the top

1:22:16

of the tops. And off of that

1:22:18

like Harlem Nights is another

1:22:20

one. But I think coming

1:22:23

to America. would probably age pretty

1:22:25

well. I think all those

1:22:27

old 80s, 90s, 80 Murphy

1:22:29

movies were really good, trading

1:22:31

places, really good one. Give it

1:22:33

a run. I think you might like.

1:22:35

Okay. See like when I watch National

1:22:38

Lampoons Christmas Vacation, like if

1:22:40

that movie was made now,

1:22:42

the jokes would still be

1:22:45

hilarious. But then I watch

1:22:47

something like, I'm trying to think

1:22:49

of one that maybe... Yeah, like

1:22:51

like like an 80s movie like

1:22:54

People are gonna get mad about

1:22:56

this But I don't know that

1:22:58

Ferris Bueller's day off is

1:23:00

like that that funny. I

1:23:02

Never saw it as funny. It

1:23:05

was just like a cool Like

1:23:07

but but but I see how

1:23:09

in the 80s that would have

1:23:11

been an awesome movie I don't I

1:23:13

don't know that we ever saw I

1:23:15

never I never was like I'm gonna

1:23:17

watch it some ball. Like it was never like, no, but I

1:23:20

think it's it's supposed to be a comedy. I never saw

1:23:22

it as a comedy like I mean, I know it was

1:23:24

a comedy, but I just never like watch Ferris Binnel, I

1:23:26

was like, this shit is hilarious. I was always like, oh,

1:23:28

it's cool little, cool little, cool little, cool little flick,

1:23:30

you know. Yeah, but even more so than it not being that

1:23:32

funny, like it, it, it doesn't do a ton for me. But I

1:23:34

see how a ton for me. But I see how in the 80s, I see

1:23:36

how in the 80s, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's supposed to a ton

1:23:38

for me, it's supposed to a ton for me, it, it, it's,

1:23:40

it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

1:23:42

it's, it's, it's The Cubs are playing

1:23:45

the Braves in that movie in

1:23:47

the game they go to fun fact

1:23:49

love baseball. It's my favorite

1:23:51

thing Me too saw some saw

1:23:53

some still photos of a Braves

1:23:55

team workout today Means we're we're

1:23:57

close. Oh spring spring ball stuff

1:24:00

And like another week or

1:24:02

so it officially starts, yeah.

1:24:04

But some guys are already

1:24:06

there, like hitting and stuff.

1:24:08

Putting in the work. Love it.

1:24:10

Love that. It's coming up for

1:24:12

you. All right, go to the

1:24:14

next voicemail. Hey guys, he's

1:24:16

Asia. I'm from Florida. Big

1:24:18

fan of the pod. I just

1:24:20

wanted to say, I think you

1:24:23

guys do a really good

1:24:25

job of touching political topics.

1:24:27

And still being able to

1:24:30

have an open conversation where

1:24:32

everybody's opinion gets hard out.

1:24:34

The tension of these conversations being

1:24:36

so high right now, it's really

1:24:39

nice to see friends who

1:24:41

can just take a lighter

1:24:43

approach on these things and

1:24:45

actually discuss important issues. So

1:24:47

my question to you guys

1:24:49

is, do you have

1:24:51

any advice when it

1:24:54

comes to having these

1:24:56

open conversations with friends

1:24:58

and family? that might

1:25:00

share different opinions. How

1:25:02

can we just have

1:25:05

normal conversations

1:25:07

about politics

1:25:10

again without

1:25:13

losing these people

1:25:16

in our lives? So

1:25:19

that's my question.

1:25:22

Thank you guys.

1:25:24

Thank you. I think

1:25:26

for me, it's the reason why

1:25:28

I could have a relationship

1:25:31

with Big T and

1:25:33

wholly disagree with his

1:25:35

worldview, right? And not

1:25:37

think he's evil. I

1:25:39

think that's the biggest

1:25:41

thing. A lot of political

1:25:43

issues does come to

1:25:45

town to morality, right?

1:25:47

Abortion, for example.

1:25:50

That's a moral stance

1:25:52

that you're taking. standing

1:25:55

maybe to disagree morally.

1:25:57

I mean and that goes down

1:25:59

to like our fundamental worldview like

1:26:01

I would I don't want to assert

1:26:03

but I would assume a lot of

1:26:06

his morality comes from a deity or

1:26:08

the book right that we say is

1:26:10

the Bible I don't think that that

1:26:12

is a reputable source of morality right

1:26:14

so like right there are fundamental where

1:26:17

we're starting from we're on opposite ends

1:26:19

of the spectrum and so I've had

1:26:21

an opportunity to get to no big

1:26:23

T I don't think he's a morally

1:26:25

abhorrent person right I think he's a

1:26:27

good dude and I'm sure that he

1:26:29

believes the same about me even though

1:26:32

our our foundation is on polar opposites

1:26:34

right he may still believe I'm

1:26:36

going to hell right but he

1:26:38

probably thinks good dude just lost

1:26:40

right and that's all assertion I don't

1:26:43

know if that's what you feel about

1:26:45

that's what I assume and I think for

1:26:47

me it's like okay I could sit here

1:26:49

and and we can we can have it

1:26:51

out every every time I talk to him

1:26:53

or I can Come to the and

1:26:56

which I have to I came to the conclusion

1:26:58

that I Don't think he wants what's

1:27:00

bad for people I think some of

1:27:02

his Stances are Obviously wrong right

1:27:04

and he thinks some of my stances

1:27:06

are obviously wrong, but I think he

1:27:08

still wants good for people He just

1:27:10

has a different way to get there

1:27:12

than I do and I think if you

1:27:14

if you operate from that premise

1:27:16

you can have good conversations that

1:27:18

we still get a heated conversation

1:27:21

sometimes on camera sometimes off, but I

1:27:23

leave the conversation thinking, okay,

1:27:25

we disagree. I think some of the stuff

1:27:27

he says is misinformation and

1:27:29

misguided. He thinks some of the

1:27:31

things I say is misinformation misguided. And

1:27:33

we're never going to change each other's

1:27:36

minds, right? And I think if you come

1:27:38

with it like I'm not trying to

1:27:40

change your mind, I want to get

1:27:42

an understanding. How did you arrive to

1:27:44

your conclusions? Where? Where you should get your

1:27:46

sources your information because a lot of time

1:27:48

I like a lot of time I I

1:27:50

like to argue with people It's not necessarily

1:27:53

to change anybody's mind. It's to sharpen my

1:27:55

sword. Okay, because how I like to and this is

1:27:57

long window, but it's it's a deep question in

1:27:59

my opinion Like I like to

1:28:01

have my worldview match my reality.

1:28:03

So it's why I'm an atheist.

1:28:05

I can't find enough evidence to

1:28:07

believe that there's a God. And

1:28:09

if I can't find enough evidence,

1:28:12

I won't believe in something. And

1:28:14

so a lot of times when

1:28:16

I'm arguing people, it's like, okay,

1:28:18

well, where did you get that

1:28:20

from? Like, okay, you have a

1:28:22

polar opposite view of me. Where

1:28:24

did you get that from? How

1:28:26

did you arrive at this conclusion?

1:28:28

conclusion and I doubt what will

1:28:30

come to an agreement. You know,

1:28:32

sometimes we just don't, but I

1:28:34

walk away thinking, you know, it's

1:28:36

still a good dude. I don't

1:28:39

agree with him. And if I

1:28:41

want to go to war with

1:28:43

everybody I disagree with, I'm going

1:28:45

to spend my entire life arguing

1:28:47

people. And I just don't want

1:28:49

to live like that. I want

1:28:51

to live a peaceful life. You

1:28:53

know, sometimes confrontation is unavoidable. But

1:28:55

at the end of the day,

1:28:57

I have to come in that

1:28:59

conversation knowing. You don't want to

1:29:01

actually murder people. You don't want

1:29:04

to actually do bad things. You

1:29:06

just, there's premises and axioms that

1:29:08

we disagree on that, you know,

1:29:10

informed or uninformed. That's your conclusion.

1:29:12

And understanding is the best thing.

1:29:14

How did you come to that?

1:29:16

Okay, I understand how you got

1:29:18

there. Move on because we just

1:29:20

disagree. a similar thing to what

1:29:22

I would say which is I

1:29:24

think the proliferation of arguing on

1:29:26

the internet has made people like

1:29:29

most of the the conversations people

1:29:31

are having are with total strangers

1:29:33

and like so you don't give

1:29:35

a shit about that person like

1:29:37

if they if you tell them

1:29:39

to kill themselves like who cares

1:29:41

like you'll never talk to him

1:29:43

again and so I think that

1:29:45

is seeped into conversations people have

1:29:47

in real life where like you

1:29:49

don't. you've thrown all caution to

1:29:51

the wind because in your mind

1:29:54

like you're just having this argument

1:29:56

with someone that you don't like

1:29:58

you don't give a shit what

1:30:00

happens to them there you know

1:30:02

the enemy or whatever so I

1:30:04

think you have to you have

1:30:06

to care about the person that

1:30:08

you're talking to otherwise it's just

1:30:10

like another internet argument you're having

1:30:12

and then you can say whatever

1:30:14

the hell you want Yeah, and

1:30:16

I think when it gets to

1:30:19

that, you're not even arguing against

1:30:21

the person. It's the idea that

1:30:23

you're arguing about, right? And once

1:30:25

you take out the humanity of

1:30:27

it, that's why everything is so

1:30:29

in heightened right now, because it's

1:30:31

an ideological warfare. I disagree with

1:30:33

the idea. And this is how

1:30:35

wars get started, and this is

1:30:37

why you have to make a

1:30:39

decision. Do you want to walk?

1:30:41

Because I could, I could, I

1:30:44

mean, it's a big part of

1:30:46

reason I'm pessimistic on pessimism because

1:30:48

I don't believe. to the point

1:30:50

where they're willing to go to

1:30:52

bat for it, right? That's just

1:30:54

my personal opinion, right? So I

1:30:56

can go around and act like

1:30:58

that all day, right? And I

1:31:00

think a lot of times the

1:31:02

perception is that's how I am

1:31:04

or big T is because y'all

1:31:06

are hill of argument or something

1:31:08

like that on here, but it's

1:31:11

not the cat don't walk around

1:31:13

arguing with conservatives at the store.

1:31:15

I don't walk around. It's just

1:31:17

like, I have a tweet, I'll

1:31:19

say some funny about it, or

1:31:21

you, or you know. you know,

1:31:23

I'll contend that point. But I

1:31:25

don't, I don't, this is, I

1:31:27

don't, I don't, I don't walk

1:31:29

around my life like that. And

1:31:31

if, like, like, my, like, she

1:31:33

is extremely, there's, there's an extreme

1:31:36

position that she holds, which I

1:31:38

just absolutely disagree with, and sometimes

1:31:40

we'll talk about it, but I

1:31:42

have to, I have to come

1:31:44

into it with the, like, the

1:31:46

understanding, like, this is my sister,

1:31:48

right, right? Right? If we feel

1:31:50

as correct, I think she's an

1:31:52

amazing human being, I love it

1:31:54

at death, and I think she

1:31:56

wants what's best for the world.

1:31:58

If you love somebody and you

1:32:01

come from that premise of... I

1:32:03

think they want what's best for

1:32:05

the world. That is the starting

1:32:07

point. And it has to be

1:32:09

the ending point as well. I

1:32:11

could think you're a dumb ass

1:32:13

all day, but where does that

1:32:15

leave us? It isn't a leave

1:32:17

us anyway. And it's a miserable

1:32:19

place, because what human? I'm of

1:32:21

the left. I think a lot

1:32:23

of people on the left are

1:32:26

fundamentally misguided, right? But there's not

1:32:28

a single person on this earth

1:32:30