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1:19

do you mean by that? You

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wrong. Listen, I know

1:27

I'm great. And I know you're

1:29

thinking, Dante, there's no

1:31

way I could be like

1:33

you. But you could be me, you

1:35

know why? Because you know who

1:37

I was before I was me? I was

1:39

you. You better score 202. Better hear

1:42

what I've got to say because you won't

1:44

get it again. your

1:52

happiness first because if you don't

1:54

they G .Y. BB, get

1:56

your balls back, WWDD, what would

1:58

Dante do to sexual - Revolutions being podcasted

2:00

and I am excited. This is a

2:02

special show y 'all We are special

2:04

guests in first and foremost. How you

2:07

doing Harry you out in Cali, baby?

2:09

Yeah, man, you know having a you

2:11

know me I'm out here having a

2:13

tough time keeping these gators down even

2:15

on the West Coast It is it

2:17

is you got sand on your gaiters.

2:19

That's crazy. Dre, you ready rock and

2:21

roll. Yes, sir All

2:23

right. I want to just say,

2:26

I want to talk about my guests a little

2:28

bit. This dude, actor and

2:30

a budding comedian

2:32

as well. Start

2:35

been doing a little comedy here

2:37

and there. You may have known him

2:39

from Bronx Trail and Jungle Fever

2:42

and All kinds of

2:44

things. Give it up for my boy,

2:46

Joseph Donafrio. Give it up for Joseph. What's

2:52

up, Joey? How you been, man? I've

2:54

been great. Thank you for that

2:56

awesome introduction, man. I appreciate it,

2:58

man. Yeah, it's good to see

3:00

you, man. It's good. I miss

3:02

you, bro. You know, just when

3:04

your comedy career started taking off,

3:06

we got hit with the COVID

3:08

-19. I know, I know.

3:10

I'm doing a show on Zoom. July

3:14

25th. Okay. All

3:16

right. I'll tune in. I'll check it out. I'll definitely check

3:18

it out. I got, you know, to be

3:20

dope, dope to check and see how

3:22

you're doing with everything and how the

3:24

growth is. Yeah, I finally got a

3:26

set, man. I got 15 minutes. And

3:29

I'm learning how to ride the lab. I'm

3:31

learning about stand -up, my man. a

3:34

totally different monster than acting in

3:36

a film or acting in comedy.

3:39

Oh, yeah, yeah. So different. yeah

3:41

it is it is it's different

3:43

and it and it's so one of

3:45

the things i like about it

3:47

is you know you know i've

3:49

done my share of acting here

3:51

and there and and i love

3:53

like it's a weird thing that

3:55

once you once you do once

3:57

you do your scenes right you

3:59

do 10 30 takes reverse

4:01

it whatever over the top

4:03

the wide angle whatever but

4:06

you're always after you do

4:08

that stuff you're um How

4:14

should I put it? It's

4:16

over? You're subject

4:18

to the editor, to

4:21

what the editor gives. So you have

4:23

no control over it. So once you do

4:25

whatever you do, you release

4:27

it and then you don't know what it

4:29

is until it's all over it where it

4:31

would stand up. You have

4:33

an infinite control

4:35

right at the moment. You're talking

4:38

and the audience is feeding back. It's

4:40

a different kind of thing. Yeah,

4:43

I love it, man. I love interacting with the

4:45

audience. That's my thing I've been

4:47

working on, you know, talking to the audience. But

4:50

I don't like putting down the audience. I

4:52

like to bring up the audience. I tell people,

4:54

I don't say all your thoughts,

4:57

ugly, you're this, you're that. I tell them they

4:59

good. You gotta leave that for me. Andre

5:05

doesn't even wait to get on the stage. He'll do

5:07

that on the subway. He's definitely in the

5:09

green room. You ain't

5:11

never going to be

5:14

shit. Colin's

5:17

good fun. My heart's well. Colin's

5:19

good fun. You're hot to the

5:21

right place, right? When you're calling somebody an

5:23

idiot. So what was the

5:25

first film you did, Joey? First

5:28

movie I did was Teenage

5:30

Mutant Ninja Turtles. Really? And

5:34

then after that, I did good fellows. Okay.

5:36

Wow. Awesome. Awesome. I,

5:39

uh, you know, when, so where you

5:41

would, did you train for acting or did

5:43

you just, just get into it? You

5:45

just have a look and just got into

5:47

it. I was a

5:49

break dancer. I got

5:51

lucky basically. I did

5:53

a couple of commercials break

5:55

dancing and my agent was like, I

5:57

had a commercial agent. She was like, You

6:00

want to go out on movies and

6:02

TV shows? I was like, yeah, sure.

6:04

So I auditioned for Teenage Mutant Ninja

6:06

Turtles and they were looking for a hoodlum. 17,

6:09

18 at the time. I got the plot

6:11

and then good fellas, they were looking for

6:13

someone to look like Joe Pesci. So,

6:16

you know.

6:19

So you played the young Joe Pesci. Yeah,

6:22

and good fellas. Young Joe Pesci. That's

6:24

dope. That's dope, man. When

6:27

did you actually think uh

6:29

that you were that you were

6:31

an actor like when did you call

6:33

yourself an actor like because for

6:36

me um you know i was a

6:38

stand -up comic all the time on

6:40

stand -up comic stand -up comic and

6:42

then i didn't start i did uh

6:44

i did the second season of

6:46

blacklist and i did scenes with james

6:48

spader and once i did the

6:50

scenes with james spader i was like

6:52

all right now i'm gonna call

6:54

myself an actor I

6:57

started calling myself an actor, I think

6:59

like 10 years ago, to be

7:01

honest with you. How long have

7:03

you been doing it before you

7:05

considered yourself an actor? I

7:08

mean, I've been in the union since

7:10

84. Wow. 15

7:12

years. He was

7:14

acting. It was just like a job.

7:16

I didn't really know really much about

7:19

it. I just got the job. Basically,

7:21

I was playing myself in different situations. Right,

7:23

right, right, right. I get what

7:26

you're saying. It's just like, you

7:28

know, like I had a respect

7:30

for actors that I didn't think I

7:32

had. Like the same way I have

7:34

a respect for comics. And the thing about

7:36

like Harry is a thing about Joseph.

7:38

Joseph started doing comedy a little while, but

7:40

he he respects the craft. He

7:42

respects the people that do it.

7:44

And he wants to be better.

7:46

And that that's a big deal.

7:49

especially when you have a following

7:51

because like when Joseph does his

7:53

shows, his fans love him. They

7:55

come out to see him. I've done

7:57

a couple of his shows where they've actually, you

7:59

know, where Joey's actually asked me to be

8:01

like, yo, I want you to do my

8:03

show and stuff like that. But he's

8:05

a dude that looks at, you know, like,

8:08

like Dre's like that. Dre

8:10

is the young dude, but

8:12

he's got those old school tendencies

8:14

where he respected the

8:17

the craft and the people that

8:19

came before him and wanted

8:21

to learn and be good joeys

8:23

like that. There's nothing worse than

8:25

that guy who's getting into comedy

8:27

just like or somebody who just

8:29

gets into it as a second

8:31

thing and they don't respect it

8:34

and they are trying to merge

8:36

at the open mic. Oh

8:38

yeah, they have merged at the open

8:40

mic. Oh god. You know what it was? I've been

8:43

on so many sitcoms like I

8:45

did a couple of sitcoms in my life

8:47

and I always liked making people laugh

8:49

and people always told me you should do

8:51

stand -up but I never had the opportunity

8:53

so when the opportunity came around I jumped

8:55

on it and you know little by

8:57

little it's like the acting like I said

9:00

I didn't start acting until 10 years

9:02

ago but basically when I was acting all

9:04

those years I was learning so much

9:06

from just working with Robert De Niro Howard

9:08

Ramis Joaquin Phoenix or whoever I was

9:10

working with Wow. And that's how I did

9:12

it with the stand -up. I watch you,

9:14

I watch a lot of people that

9:16

do it, and I learn from them, and

9:19

I watch and, you know, I

9:21

take things from other people. right.

9:23

I mean, not their jokes, but just the way they

9:25

it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean, you got

9:27

to learn it. I mean, you know, when you approach

9:29

acting, you're just like, okay,

9:31

this is who I am. You're

9:33

just playing a, like you said,

9:36

you're just playing a version of

9:38

you. But the craft of acting,

9:40

like, you know, like, I don't

9:42

even remember what year I did

9:44

Blacklist, but I was like, if

9:46

I can sit across James Spader

9:48

and go hold my own, I'm

9:51

like, okay, I'm an actor now.

9:53

You know what I mean? But

9:55

I wouldn't even call myself that

9:57

before, because you don't want to

9:59

be disrespectful about the

10:02

craft of people who have dedicated so

10:04

much. you know to do it

10:06

you know I mean and I kind of like

10:08

I was like you I was a commercial agent

10:10

and they were like yo we need a big

10:12

dude to play a bouncer and so and that's

10:14

how it you know kind of happened you know

10:16

yeah well ever since like I said 10

10:18

years ago I started taking it seriously

10:20

and I started branching out and doing

10:22

different things besides myself right playing

10:24

a geek like playing a dentist

10:26

right whatever now my next project

10:28

I'm doing I'm playing uh drag queen

10:30

and this thing oh my god really

10:33

Really? A gangster on

10:35

a TV show called Graves Act

10:37

that's on Amazon Prime right now.

10:39

And we're actually doing a sitcom

10:41

pilot called Almost Made about Italian

10:43

guys, but it's funny. Yeah, yeah.

10:45

It's funny. So, you know, we

10:47

got Jackie the Jokeman's in it.

10:50

Right, right. Louis Van Aria. So

10:52

we got a couple of one stand

10:54

up comic in it. And it's great.

10:56

It's great to finally realize I'm an

10:58

actor. Yeah,

11:01

it's a it's a weird thing. Let me see

11:03

this one. When

11:05

you were because Harry wanted to ask you

11:07

some questions because I told him you want

11:09

to. He's a big fan. So

11:12

I mean, I just the.

11:14

All right. So how much do

11:16

you get to interact with? You know, I

11:18

mean, you're on the set. It's DeNiro. It's

11:20

Scorsese. It's Pesci and all that. And even

11:22

though you're playing the younger character, you don't

11:24

make maybe you don't have scenes, but you

11:26

take anything from that or the experience. Like,

11:29

what is the thing you drew most from

11:31

that experience? From

11:35

that

11:37

experience, I'm just grateful that I

11:39

was in that experience and learning

11:41

from the best and just noticing

11:43

how calm they were and just

11:45

how they got into character and how

11:47

it was just like, you know, it's just like

11:49

real life, how to get into a scene. I remember

11:52

before we did the scene, that De Niro would

11:54

like, before we did the scene, we'd get into the

11:56

scene. So we talk a little. Boom,

11:58

Marty would say action. And we

12:00

were already in the scene. Like when we

12:02

did Analyze That, I did a movie called Analyze

12:04

That with Robert De Niro where he hung me off

12:06

the roof and we had a little fight. Before

12:09

we did the scene, he actually grabbed

12:11

me and we started wrestling. They

12:13

said action and we were into it.

12:15

So he taught me a couple things

12:17

and he directed me and a Bronx

12:19

tell and he taught me a lot

12:21

of things. grateful

12:24

that my second movie was with

12:26

big shots and I'm grateful that I got

12:28

to be with those guys. Yeah, that's three

12:30

movies. What do you think I took away

12:32

from it? I

12:34

mean, it's an interesting thing. I mean, I

12:36

don't, you know, for me, for

12:38

me, all I can say is for me. the

12:40

characters that I play

12:42

are people that I

12:45

know. So like I

12:47

was always kind of a street dude

12:49

and so I would be, you

12:51

know, I would just become a guy

12:53

who I knew. And I just

12:55

had a lustrous street career that

12:57

I had a lot of

12:59

characters to pull from, you

13:02

know I mean? And because

13:04

you're a real dude and you know people

13:06

and stuff, so you go, you take from

13:08

that guy. I didn't really have an understanding.

13:10

I mean, I guess, I guess that was

13:12

just me. For me, it was just kind

13:14

of figuring it out. You know,

13:16

just, just, you what's

13:18

interesting is that Los Angeles was different only

13:21

because I played somebody as a

13:23

young kid. So I actually

13:25

had to talk a little differently because

13:27

they wanted me to talk. like Joe

13:29

Pesci told. Right, right, right. Don't really

13:31

say Henry, Henry. And

13:34

now that I act, when I

13:36

get a part, I try to do

13:38

things differently. Like the TV show

13:40

I'm doing Graveson, I'm playing Johnny Maddog,

13:43

Manganon. I put him not as

13:45

tough. Right. classy, a

13:47

classy gangster. Like he's got respect. He's

13:49

going, he dresses sharp. He likes the

13:51

ladies. Basically, like from a different guy, like

13:53

in the brawler, I play the guy

13:55

that'll rip your head off for a minute.

13:58

I try to do things differently. I try

14:00

not to do the same thing over and over. You

14:03

know what I mean? Where were you originally from?

14:06

I'm in Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. So you

14:08

had people to pull from. You

14:10

had characters in Bensonhurst. You

14:12

had people to pull from those

14:14

characters, guys that you actually

14:16

knew. Well, I do my research, whatever

14:18

I do. If I know I'm going up for

14:20

a character, like I did Gotham. I watched

14:22

the show. I seen how the show was. I

14:24

seen it was creepy. So when I did

14:26

my character, I did him a little creepy. That's

14:29

how I'm playing the drag queen. I'm

14:31

gonna hang out with some drag queens. I'm

14:33

gonna watch some drag queens videos. know,

14:35

you gotta put the work in. Anything you do in

14:37

life, you gotta put work in.

14:39

You don't put work in, it's not

14:41

gonna happen. Right, right. When you were

14:43

younger, how were you with the ladies? I

14:47

was out with the ladies. I mean, I always

14:49

had a girlfriend, you know, I was just telling

14:51

somebody the other day. I really wasn't single that

14:53

long. I was married. I got divorced. I had

14:55

a girl for 14 years after that, you know,

14:57

I just try to be a nice guy and

14:59

try to live my life, man. Yeah.

15:02

Um, you got kids now, no? Yeah. I

15:04

got a 17 year old daughter. Wow.

15:06

Went to college next year. I'm excited.

15:09

congratulations man did you did you

15:11

have to do the uh the

15:13

online graduation and stuff or no

15:15

well we don't know yet right now we're

15:17

just on the wait waiting game and we're

15:20

gonna see what happens she was supposed

15:22

to go away and my daughter's great i

15:24

told her said ashley you know don't be

15:26

discouraged i know she graduated she was second

15:28

in her class she was so excited to

15:30

graduate and go away and all this other

15:32

good stuff yeah i told her you know

15:34

you just gotta keep moving don't let it

15:36

get you down Yeah. Oh, are

15:38

we daddy? I'm good. Yeah. Oh,

15:40

she's very easygoing and humble. And

15:43

I'm grateful for that. So if your kid,

15:45

uh, is your daughter, was it, was

15:47

she enamored by the fact that you were in all

15:49

these classic films and stuff? Or is she just sort

15:51

of like, ah, whatever. It's

15:55

no big deal. I mean, I mean,

15:57

I've been acting since she was born,

15:59

basically. And basically she She

16:02

knows how my lifestyle is. It's like when

16:04

we're out or something, somebody will recognize me.

16:06

I mean, she knows to just like be

16:08

nice and you know, chill out.

16:10

She just stays quiet and like daddy

16:13

handle it. You know, she's very

16:15

polite and very, very nice person. And

16:17

you know, just like I am

16:19

and I try to be. Yeah, I

16:21

mean, that's the one thing about

16:23

Joey. I like when I first met

16:25

Joe, just a really kind, just

16:28

a kind dude and and

16:30

to watch to watch

16:32

the fans like i

16:34

mean it's it's it's almost

16:36

creepy the way his

16:38

fans love him you know

16:40

i mean like i

16:42

love them too right right

16:45

but it's it's i

16:47

mean they're like yeah they

16:49

are they're into it

16:51

and does that Because sometimes,

16:53

you know, because I'm like,

16:55

I started to say a

16:57

regular dude, but I don't

16:59

know that. Yeah, I don't

17:01

say that. I don't you're

17:03

going get away with the regular dude label. Everybody's

17:06

a regular dude, man. But

17:08

it's like, sometimes

17:11

it takes me back.

17:13

when when the fans from the

17:16

podcast because we got a pretty

17:18

big we got a pretty big

17:20

following with the podcast and you

17:22

know basically the podcast is relationship

17:24

stuff and so on and so

17:26

forth um and you know which we've

17:28

always been trying to help guys

17:31

kind of understand the social dynamics

17:33

of relationships and stuff like

17:35

that and so when you affect

17:37

people's lives in that way They

17:39

really love you. You know, they love

17:41

you in a real way that you

17:44

don't even, and you know, they're listening,

17:46

especially with your podcast and stuff because

17:48

they're listening to you every day. You're

17:50

in their ear. Do you know what

17:52

I mean? When

17:55

they come to you, like even

17:57

like, cause I do one -on -one

17:59

consultations and I'll, I'll, a guy

18:01

will. you know, he'll book something with

18:03

me and I'll call him up. And the

18:05

first thing they do every time is like, oh

18:07

man, like I can't even believe I'm talking

18:09

to you. You know what I mean? That kind

18:12

of thing. And for me, I

18:14

just never wanted to

18:17

be like, I like

18:19

being a regular dude. I mean, whatever. I

18:21

mean, just like,

18:23

right. Like,

18:26

I'm like, I don't, you know, it's nice

18:28

that they feel that way. But I'm, you know,

18:30

I still, I'm

18:34

still not used to fans coming up on occasion

18:36

from the podcast. I don't get it as much

18:38

as you do for sure. It

18:40

still freaks me out when people come up because

18:42

usually when people go, hey, I'm like, ah, this is

18:44

going to be a fucking problem. There

18:47

was one day I forgot his name.

18:49

He was a sweetheart, but it was at a,

18:51

I was at a Walmart at like three o

18:53

'clock in the morning. He goes, yo, man. And

18:55

I'm like, ah, fuck. I got

18:57

to fight a guy in a Walmart parking lot. I

18:59

don't want to do this. He's like, ah, man. You're

19:02

Harry Trojanian, right? From from man's school.

19:04

I'm like, oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. And then

19:06

all of a sudden the demeanor changes.

19:08

I'm like, my heart stops racing. I'm like,

19:10

oh, fuck, this is like two different

19:12

fucking speeds. Put your pepper spray down. You know,

19:14

how dare you want to tell you something?

19:17

You've been mocking my pepper spray for years.

19:19

I've never had this body like a

19:21

bad bitch. I don't carry my pepper

19:23

spray on me. It's on my bag

19:26

to protect video equipment because I don't

19:28

need to fight seven dudes like you. What

19:31

are you talking about? Oh, that

19:33

time you got your ass kicked at that bar in Corona

19:35

or whatever, that birthday party where those guys stopped you

19:37

out. They stopped you out for

19:39

stepping on their sneakers or something. I

19:41

just bumped into somebody and the niggas

19:44

started swinging. Harry lost

19:46

40 pounds, so he protects

19:48

his body like an

19:50

Instagram model now. There's

19:53

almost a bicep there. It's

19:58

a weird thing, let me ask you,

20:01

like you were married, you said you

20:03

were married for like 14 years? I

20:05

was married for 10. 10. Got

20:07

a girlfriend for 14 and

20:09

then Love the long term relationships,

20:12

huh? Wow, wow. What's

20:15

your what's your number Joey? What's your

20:17

number? 18765.

20:25

Did you find that

20:27

women were intimidated

20:29

by the fame and

20:31

by the people? Because

20:34

sometimes you'll find, I'll find that people,

20:36

women will like it initially and then they'll

20:38

go, you know, this is a, look. It's

20:42

funny you said that because I had a

20:44

friend of mine, this girl that

20:46

I know, about

20:49

these women that I knew. And

20:51

I was like, you know, I don't think any women like

20:53

me around here. And she said, what are you talking about? I

20:56

said, I don't know. No one ever wants to talk

20:58

to me. And she's like, there are lot of women

21:00

like you. I said, then how come they don't say

21:02

hi to me about you? And then she said, she

21:04

goes, they're intimidated by you. They're intimidated by you. Just

21:07

because I've been in a couple of movies and TV

21:09

shows, I think. Yeah, but you got it

21:11

with Joey. It says, I was looking at

21:13

your IMDB. What do you got? Like a

21:15

hundred and a hundred and seven hundred and

21:17

six movies you've been in. I

21:19

don't know something like that. Yeah.

21:21

I mean, that's, that's some, that's

21:23

a resume. Do know I mean?

21:25

It's like, they think like. And

21:28

I asked a couple of girls, it's like, what is

21:30

they go, oh, we don't think you're good enough for

21:32

us. We don't think we're good enough for you. And

21:34

I was like, I was like, now I

21:36

know why I don't get any girls. I'm

21:38

a nice

21:40

guy. Yeah. That's

21:44

a thing sometimes you have to

21:46

deal with when you have something that's

21:48

interesting, like a career that's interesting

21:50

or life that's interesting, like even just

21:52

being a stand up over the years.

21:54

you have to deal with what

21:56

the repercussions of that because at first

21:59

it's even if you date somebody at

22:01

first it's super exciting like

22:03

because you know they're intrigued by the lifestyle and

22:05

all that and then the problem is when you're

22:07

away so much it starts to wane on the

22:09

relationship a little bit you know it's like

22:11

where are you going ever like this is what i'm

22:13

doing and it it's you know it wears out because

22:15

they don't want to hang out at clubs they're not

22:17

performing they don't get the same energy And

22:20

so anytime you're doing something,

22:22

you know, yeah My Facebook

22:24

and my

22:26

Instagram girls,

22:29

right like

22:31

hey handsome

22:34

beautiful They

22:38

They're in Australia. They a swim over here. It's

22:40

a long swim Yeah,

22:49

but you I mean you were in

22:51

a relationship for a long time. She's like

22:53

14 years do it. So I mean

22:55

Yeah, but that was before that was before

22:57

Instagram. That was what Joe was saying

22:59

Actually ruined it. That's what actually ruined the

23:01

relationship to be honest with you really what

23:03

happened? Is this just that just just the

23:05

questions just the comments and the questions like

23:07

who's that? Why are they liking your page

23:09

all that sort of stuff? Yeah, it just

23:11

became nonsense. It's like, you know

23:13

If you're in a relationship, I feel like

23:16

If you're like a celebrity, or you got

23:18

like fans and things, you just gotta

23:20

not even ask a question about

23:22

it. I mean, if you're

23:24

not into the entertainment business, and you

23:26

got Facebook, and you

23:28

got girls and guys commenting on

23:30

your pictures, then there's a problem,

23:33

you know? If you're entertaining a guy

23:35

that you don't know, or a girl that

23:37

you don't know, if you're with somebody. Yeah,

23:40

but it's also a lot like

23:42

you find a lot of

23:44

people so it's an interesting thing

23:46

like what a humble what

23:48

a good dude you are and

23:50

and then There's a situation

23:52

where you get people who are

23:54

just on Facebook and then

23:56

their their celebrity is Facebook like

23:58

they really haven't done the work

24:00

to be Famous you see when

24:03

you when you work, you know,

24:05

you got over a hundred movies.

24:07

That's a lot of work like

24:09

People, like initially, I

24:11

didn't even really like acting because it

24:13

was so tedious. Do you know

24:15

I mean? So if you do a

24:17

scene, like I'm looking at your background, you're

24:19

doing that scene, people don't

24:22

understand that might

24:24

be three different, at

24:26

least three camera setups, maybe

24:28

more than that. Then

24:30

you gotta, each guy's gotta talk. you

24:33

gotta shoot the guy talking, you

24:35

gotta shoot behind his head, the response

24:37

and stuff. And so it's really

24:39

a tedious like, when you watch it,

24:41

when you watch it and it's

24:44

all put together, it looks, it's seamless,

24:46

but it's a lot of work.

24:48

I did, I did, I did this,

24:50

the fighting movie. And I

24:52

gotta come down these stairs up in

24:54

the Bronx, since I'm 176th Street, and

24:56

I'm sitting on the stairs, and then

24:58

I walk down the stairs. I walk

25:00

down that fight of stairs 45, 46

25:03

times. up

25:05

and down up and down and then

25:07

I and then it was raining when they

25:09

started it so I was sitting in

25:11

the rain like it was my pants were

25:13

because I'm sitting in the rain then

25:15

when it dried up they had to wet

25:17

the stairs down so for the continuity

25:19

so that I could continue to sit in

25:21

the rain the whole night and then

25:23

the fight scene was yeah I mean you

25:25

you know you it's exhausting I

25:27

just did um I just didn't

25:29

what you call it uh uh Ray

25:32

Donovan oh nice and and

25:34

Terry and Ray Donovan punches

25:36

me and I got to

25:38

go against the fence I

25:40

got to hit the fence

25:42

and then hit the ground

25:44

and then I got to

25:46

stay but I'm literally like

25:48

20

25:50

30 takes of

25:53

and then because because of the

25:55

shot they couldn't put mats on the

25:57

ground so you I had to

25:59

kind of break my fall and then

26:01

lay down in this state, you know

26:03

I mean? And 20, 30 times, I

26:05

mean, it's a lot. It looks great

26:07

when they put it together, but before

26:10

that, you're like, what the fuck? You

26:12

know, then you hate the fence and

26:14

you did, you hit the fence, you

26:16

hit them 20 times, you hit the

26:18

fence, a pain in the neck. And

26:20

so it's a real tedious thing until

26:23

you start getting bigger parts where they

26:25

treat you like... They like you

26:27

matter cuz when you got the little one

26:29

and done, you know Yeah, that's a

26:31

you ever hear the story John Lake was

26:33

I'm always talking about I forget what

26:35

it was, but I think Sean Penn

26:37

or something kicks him through

26:39

a window Right something and I like

26:41

he goes he goes it was extra hard

26:43

I went like right through it and

26:45

it was problem and then everyone rushes over

26:48

to Sean Penn to make sure he's

26:50

okay and make sure his foot Sean you're

26:52

right When

26:54

you're doing a scene like that,

26:56

I mean you got to basically know it's

26:58

not only about the acting. It's about

27:00

playing in the frame. It's about

27:02

playing in the lighting. It's about making

27:05

sure

27:07

you're not blocked by the other actor.

27:10

Making sure the camera's on you. Because

27:12

if the camera's on and it misses,

27:14

like you bump into that fence and you

27:16

go like this. They got

27:18

to do it again. Let's do it again. Let's

27:20

do it again. Let's do it again defense like

27:22

this. All right, let's go move to the

27:24

next one. I

27:26

try to come like prepared basically

27:28

where two, three takes, you got

27:30

the shot. Let's move on to

27:33

the next thing. What the next

27:35

two shots? But

27:37

that's great. That's great. When you got

27:39

it, when you have an actor, when you

27:41

have a director who knows what he's

27:43

doing and he knows what he wants. But

27:45

you could you could give you, you

27:47

know, there's other directors where they don't, they

27:49

haven't really decided what they want. And

27:51

they just, okay, try like this. They're figuring

27:53

it out on the fly. So the

27:56

funny thing when I did, when I did

27:58

Ray Donovan, they You

28:01

know, do you watch it or no? I watch

28:03

it, I watch it. Okay, so you

28:05

know, the character Bunchy. Bunchy

28:09

is directing. The last season he

28:11

was directing. So because

28:13

he's an actor, he had

28:16

a different perspective. He was like, you know,

28:18

so he was really concerned about me hitting

28:20

the ground. He was trying to get the

28:22

shot pretty quick and he was trying to

28:24

do, because he understands what the other side

28:26

of the, you know, what it is on

28:28

the other side of the camera, you know? It's

28:32

it's involved. It's I mean you think

28:34

it's not involved, but it's it's really

28:36

involved and it's tedious So if you

28:38

if you got a if you got

28:40

a shitty little part and then you

28:42

don't get the perks of them taking

28:44

care of you because once you once

28:46

you you got a Decent principle part

28:48

they take care like you I didn't

28:50

have to I didn't have to ask

28:52

for cheese eggs You know in the

28:54

morning. I was like, yo, you know

28:56

I wear my cheese egg like it

28:58

was so it kind of pays off

29:00

because they treat you with such

29:02

you know The

29:04

honest with you when I get when

29:06

I get a part or I go to the

29:08

set man I just try to be like, you

29:11

know kind and nice to everybody. Yeah,

29:13

yeah Who'd

29:17

like some coffee? I said, first of all, call

29:19

me General Joseph. Second of all,

29:21

I could get the coffee myself unless they need me in

29:24

the makeup trailer now. Right, right,

29:26

right, right. said, can

29:28

you please get me my coffee while I

29:30

need his milk? Right, right, right, right. Something I'd

29:32

be like, let me do the makeup and

29:34

I'll come right back. I just try to treat

29:36

everybody with respect. Who did you, who, who, I

29:38

want to see if we can get the tea.

29:40

Who did you, who treated you like a dick

29:42

on set? I

29:45

never really got treated like this. to

29:47

ban it to be honest with you. People

29:49

always treated me good. And if they did,

29:51

I just looked the other way because you

29:53

know what? These people are working 14 hours

29:55

a day. They're tired. They're

29:58

hungry. They're aggravated.

30:01

So if I get a little out of this...

30:03

See how Joey's a sweetheart? See

30:05

how Joey's a sweetheart? He's

30:08

a sweetheart because Terrence

30:10

Howard treated me like a

30:13

fucking dick. No,

30:17

I don't remember when

30:19

you work with Terry Howard.

30:21

So when I did

30:23

the fighting movie. Oh, I

30:25

was to he played

30:27

the like the motor promoter

30:29

right with Channing Tatum

30:31

and you know like I'm

30:33

like you Joey I mean you know

30:35

even the first day we met we hit

30:37

it off it was like you know

30:39

it was all love and so and plus

30:42

I'm a union guy my dad was

30:44

a union guy my dad worked for the

30:46

parks department he was a union guy

30:48

I was a union guy so you know

30:50

right away you know I'm talking to

30:52

the teamsters I'm talking to the stunt guys

30:54

and so I'm two days on set

30:56

before I saw him and I literally was

30:59

Like it was I knew everybody

31:01

to make up people that this to

31:03

that and they like they loved having

31:05

me around and I make cracking jokes

31:07

and stuff Tell me how it comes

31:09

on the fucking he comes on the

31:11

um The scene and he's kind of

31:13

like no who the fuck is

31:15

this guy? Because

31:18

when I come on, I'm like,

31:20

oh, what's up? Like, no,

31:22

wait. Jose, no, wait. And

31:24

I'm giving high fives and shit, and

31:26

everybody's like, oh, thought they'd say, right.

31:29

Because I'm like, I'm like, you, I'll get my own shit.

31:31

I'm fine, whatever. What do you need? How do you it?

31:33

you want to do it again? Let's do it again. Because

31:36

the other thing is, like you

31:38

said, 14, 16 hours of work,

31:41

if you're a dick, But if

31:43

you're a dick for 14

31:45

hours, you won't get no

31:47

work if you're hard to

31:49

work with You won't get

31:51

no work. Well, that's what

31:53

I did Sometimes you I don't

31:55

mean I don't know the character he was playing

31:57

in the movie. I don't know if his character was

31:59

like Joey Joey I get it

32:01

if it's method acting,

32:03

but it wasn't that it

32:06

wasn't even that he

32:08

he just didn't like the

32:10

fact that the people

32:12

on the set that what they would call the

32:14

little people, which are the people that make it

32:16

happen. He just didn't like that.

32:18

I, you know, I gave them, you

32:20

know, you look people in the eye

32:22

and you, you, they want to be

32:25

seen. And then I would remember names

32:27

and talk to, Hey, how you doing?

32:29

And he came on the set and

32:31

he just immediately I could feel like,

32:33

you know, I, he's like, who the

32:35

fuck is this clown like that? And

32:38

here's the thing. was

32:40

gonna say like his reputation didn't get

32:42

kicked off Iron Man like there's

32:44

a couple I'm gonna get to that

32:46

he but I was such a

32:48

fan of his because of that the

32:50

movie hustling flow like I thought

32:52

he was so fucking amazing in that

32:54

movie right so you get these

32:56

you know how they say don't meet

32:58

your heroes I was so Happy

33:00

to meet him and work and my

33:03

mom, you know, my mom my

33:05

mom pops way in 2016, but my

33:07

mom loved him She did you

33:09

know, he was a cutie pie whatever and

33:11

my mom was like, oh Tammy Howard

33:13

and I was so I was so excited

33:15

to work with the dude and he

33:17

just Like in the movie, I had a

33:19

girlfriend and he was punkin' me with

33:21

my fake girlfriend. So like in between scenes,

33:23

he was gonna come at you and

33:25

I'm like, dude, I don't even know this

33:27

bitch. She's

33:29

playing my girlfriend. And

33:33

he just kept giving

33:35

me the business. And then

33:37

I finally, you know, I asked him for

33:39

a picture and I said, you mind if I

33:41

get a picture with you, man? I'm a

33:43

big fan. up my

33:45

face, man. He goes, yeah,

33:49

yeah, sure. And just as they go to

33:51

take a picture, he snatches a girl and

33:53

puts a girl in between us. Some

33:56

random girl. I'm

33:58

like, all right. So we do the rap

34:00

party. And I go up to

34:02

him and I say, listen, I know you don't

34:04

like me, but I just want you to know I'm

34:06

a big fan. I love your work and I'm

34:08

a big fan. Oh, no, no. It's not that I'm

34:10

like, no, dog. I look like I've been running

34:12

the streets. I know what to do. Don't like me.

34:14

Right. So I

34:16

don't know the result when any time you

34:18

go up to anybody and confront them and

34:20

go, hey, man, you know, you've been real

34:22

shitty. No, no, no, no, no. You know,

34:25

I've been tired. He was

34:27

a dick. And then like, like

34:29

Harry said, You you

34:31

get knocked off the

34:33

Avenger movies Like how do

34:35

you fuck that up? Like, you

34:37

know, he was playing um War

34:39

machine. Well, I won't say war

34:41

machine. Uh, what's the the

34:43

Iron Man at Don Cheadle plays for

34:45

now? Was it

34:47

war machine? Yeah, so he so

34:49

I guess he thought he was

34:52

so big that he could be

34:54

a dick and not And you

34:56

know, they they replaced him They

34:58

didn't even try to get a dude that looked like

35:00

him. That was like, get

35:02

the fuck out of here.

35:05

And how do you blow the

35:07

Avenger movies? I mean, Owen's

35:09

probably several beach houses now. Just

35:14

by being a

35:16

good dude, like a

35:18

righteous dude, people want to work with

35:20

you. They want to work

35:22

with you. But Dante, that's a lesson

35:24

in just real life in general. There's

35:27

no need to ever

35:29

be a dick. Talent

35:31

is hard. Skill,

35:33

that's hard, but being

35:35

nice, it's easy. You

35:37

can be shitty and be nice. It's funny

35:39

that you say a story that I worked

35:41

with an actor once. I'm

35:43

not going to mention his name, but he

35:45

was very nasty to me on this set. And

35:49

I said to myself, I was

35:51

like, wow, this guy's really nasty. I

35:54

was like, let me play for this guy, but

35:56

he changes his ways. And

35:58

you know, I don't know, like a couple of

36:00

years later, I at a party and the same act

36:02

that was like across the room. comes

36:04

over and he's like, hey Joey, how

36:06

you doing? What's going on? He

36:09

has the family, he has everybody.

36:11

He was so nice to me. Right.

36:13

And I said to myself, I was

36:15

like, wow, I thought this guy was

36:17

a knucklehead. Right, right. But then I thought

36:19

to myself, I watched the movie

36:21

again and we really didn't interact in

36:23

the movie. And our characters weren't supposed

36:25

to really like each other. Oh, so

36:27

he was method. He was a method actor.

36:30

Into the role. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes

36:32

when I'm working with other actors, I

36:34

try not to, like, get too personal or talk

36:36

to them about different things, because I know I'm

36:38

on the set and I know they're working, and

36:40

I know maybe they got a lot of dialogue

36:43

in their mind. Yeah, yeah. Basically, I try to

36:45

keep it simple. If they talk to me, I'll

36:47

be like, hey, how are you doing? Nice to

36:49

see you. And then I wait for them, and

36:51

I see what I do after that. Did

36:53

you know who was

36:55

notorious? Like I worked the

36:57

first two days with them, where they were

36:59

like quiet. They didn't say a word to me.

37:01

Right, right. They're a day to a day. Joey,

37:03

how you doing? There's basically a lot of actors. They

37:06

don't know if you talk to them. You're going to

37:08

go to like the star magazine. going

37:10

to do

37:13

this. Or they don't know if

37:15

you're trying to brown nose them to

37:17

get the next part. Because so many people

37:19

are up there junk or just You

37:21

want to be their friends for the wrong reasons. Well,

37:24

you know, the Daenerys now they're

37:26

actually trying, you know, sometimes it's

37:28

hard being not famous because you don't

37:31

know, you know, what people

37:33

want from you. So even

37:35

when people approach me, I don't know

37:37

what's going on. I'm like, what are

37:39

these people trying to do? But

37:41

I try to be positive about

37:43

every situation I'm in and anybody that comes

37:45

up to me, I try to just make

37:47

an experience. You know, in the

37:50

back of my head I'm always thinking, what's going

37:52

on you know yeah yeah yeah i

37:54

um but like i

37:56

i know denaro when denaro

37:58

did um i don't

38:08

think so because he it was uh because

38:10

i you know i confronted him at

38:12

the rap party and It was

38:14

like he knew what it was and

38:16

I knew it. I was like,

38:18

come on dog. I mean, but I

38:20

remember when I remember reading that

38:22

denaro when did what was the movie

38:24

that denaro did with a cuba

38:26

gooding where he was in the um,

38:28

radio played this racist I played

38:30

this racist in and cuba gooding was

38:32

one of the first black But

38:38

it was supposed to be at a time

38:40

when there was a lot of

38:42

racial tension. And he did not

38:45

talk to Cuba until the character

38:47

changed in the

38:49

story because he's

38:51

a method actor.

38:53

And I get that. But our

38:56

character wasn't like that. It

38:58

wasn't like that. And

39:00

I'm not a guy. I mean,

39:02

you've been around me. I'm not a

39:04

pushy dude. you

39:08

know I've had you know

39:10

like even like I came up

39:12

not directly but I came

39:14

up with Kevin Hart and

39:16

you know Kev is huge now

39:18

yeah and but So he was outside

39:21

the club and I was like,

39:23

hey, Kev, just to

39:25

speak, because I didn't want to be somebody

39:27

who didn't speak to somebody who I

39:29

knew. And he stopped the interview to come

39:31

over and say, hey, he

39:33

was like, excuse me, one second. He

39:35

was like, what's up, buddy? Gave me a

39:37

hug and stuff. And it was like,

39:40

he's that kind of guy. And you don't

39:42

realize how much that the sincerity of

39:44

that counts in the real thing, not Patrice.

39:47

Patrice was an asshole to people all

39:49

the time. Patrice was

39:51

an asshole to his own friends. Patrice

39:54

was an asshole to the people who were

39:56

closest to him. So he, right,

39:58

you know, just before he passed, he

40:00

had got his own show,

40:02

right? Patrice got his own

40:04

show and he was casting it.

40:06

right? It never, the show never

40:08

came out, but he was casting it

40:10

and he comes home one day

40:13

like it's one on 16 hour days

40:15

and he goes, you

40:17

know, I realize when you're

40:19

working 16 hours with

40:21

somebody, you'd rather work

40:23

with somebody who's nice

40:25

than somebody who's talented

40:27

and an asshole. And

40:30

I go, Really, you think

40:32

people like nice people? That

40:34

was a big revelation that

40:36

he had just figured out. It

40:38

turned to me. It turned to

40:41

me nice. People liked you.

40:43

People liked you when you're nice.

40:45

It's better. And he

40:47

was like, he said there were

40:49

guys who were more talented, but

40:51

they were just assholes. And

40:53

he'd rather take the less talented

40:55

person. Because like you said, when

40:58

you're doing 16 hours,

41:00

14, 16 hours, man,

41:02

it's hard to stay nice for 14

41:04

to 16 hours. I mean, even if you're

41:06

a nice guy. But if you start

41:08

off with douchebag, Oh, that's,

41:10

it's the worst. And he was like, you know,

41:12

I realized whenever I do, um, because he was

41:14

on the, you know, he was on the office. And

41:18

he said to me, he said to

41:20

me, yeah, that's, that's Steve Carell's

41:22

show. That's not my thing. And I'm

41:24

like, are you fucking kidding me?

41:26

Like the opportunities. And I said, I

41:28

said, your revelation is that being

41:30

a nice guy. People like

41:32

you, I go took you to be 40

41:34

years old and know where you were

41:36

on the other side of the camera cast

41:38

and to know that it's just easier

41:41

to work with people who are easier to

41:43

work with, they're gonna work with you

41:45

more and more, you know, when you're agreeable.

41:48

You don't want to head over there. The

41:50

other thing is people always

41:52

think that being nice means you're

41:54

a pushover. And that's the

41:56

big misconception. Like, just not even

41:58

just about acting, but in life in

42:00

general, even in an office environment, it's okay

42:03

to be nice. It doesn't mean you're

42:05

a pushover. It's the same thing in relationships.

42:07

Yeah. Well, it's interesting what Joey

42:09

said is, look, the minute

42:11

you start asking me about Facebook,

42:14

see you so long, because you can

42:17

see down the road that it's

42:19

going to be a problem. You

42:21

know that this is going to be a problem. It's

42:23

not going to get better. But a

42:25

lot of times people will, they will

42:27

discount their manhood and what they

42:29

like and what they don't like because

42:31

they fake me. And then you

42:33

find the people guys do that because

42:35

they don't think that they're worthy

42:37

in the first place. Do you know

42:39

I mean? Like there's a, I

42:41

don't know if you ever seen that

42:43

IKEA commercial, the IKEA commercial where

42:45

the lady is running to the parking

42:47

lot with the bags and she

42:49

goes, Harold, stop the car. Right? And

42:52

it's the, the point is that the,

42:54

that Aki is so cheap that she

42:56

feels like she's robbed them. But

42:59

you know she paid for everything and everything

43:01

she's going but she feels like it's

43:03

so cheap that she's robbed them and the

43:05

thing about it is You know if

43:07

you're a guy and you're in a situation

43:09

and you think that the woman that

43:11

you're with You're not that you're out of

43:13

your league if you think you're out

43:15

of your league and you're not worthy Then

43:17

inside you you feel like you're stealing

43:19

you know I mean deep down you're in

43:21

a situation that you don't deserve to

43:23

be in in the first place You know,

43:26

but you'll find that guys won't work to

43:28

be, uh, guys won't

43:30

work to be worthy either. Like,

43:33

so it's like, it's easy, you know,

43:35

it's almost like you, you got over a hundred movies

43:37

under your belt. Um, it's,

43:40

it's your job. It's what you do.

43:42

Um, it's what you love doing, but you're

43:44

also not going, look at me, everybody.

43:46

I got a hundred movies. Like, even he

43:48

goes, I did a few things this,

43:50

that and the other. And then when you

43:52

look at your, you know, when you

43:54

look at your IMDB, you're like, holy shit.

43:56

Like, But because it

43:58

doesn't, it doesn't matter. You're always looking.

44:01

What's the next thing? Well, yeah, I got

44:03

this. You got to keep working, you

44:05

know? And what's the next thing?

44:07

And what else can I do? And how can

44:09

I be better? And when you're focused on

44:11

that, you're just not worried about what other people

44:13

think. Yeah, I

44:15

mean, I'm not worried about what other people think.

44:17

That's what I do too. I try to look

44:19

for the next thing. try

44:21

to stay positive man especially now what was

44:23

going on you know we're all shut

44:25

down it was like two projects i was

44:27

supposed to do but they're all shut down

44:29

right now but what were you working on

44:32

what were you working on well graves end

44:34

we did close to that it's on

44:36

amazon prime right now we got six

44:38

more we're supposed to do i'm not

44:40

so you got slated for ten the

44:42

whole season yeah and then basically this thing

44:44

almost made highly And I

44:46

just finished birthday cake with Val Kilmer.

44:48

So that was good, that's in the can.

44:50

I got this other thing in the

44:52

can called, well I

44:54

forgot the name of it, something

44:56

with Judy San Romo, I was the

44:59

name of it, it was... Let me

45:01

see, I'll look it up, we'll get

45:03

it. There we go. The wrong path,

45:05

the wrong path. The

45:07

wrong path, it's really good

45:09

man. The wrong path is

45:11

gonna be off the

45:13

hook Thomas. Powell, man. Oh.

45:16

I played Bruno in there. I

45:19

played a tough

45:21

guy. That's

45:23

all I get. I'm always throwing somebody

45:26

in a dumpster. I

45:30

would love

45:32

for you to throw me in the dumpster. I

45:34

was throwing in the dumpster in the Black Davelies.

45:36

They killed me in there. It was like, you ever

45:39

been in a dumpster, man? I'm

45:41

usually the guy throwing

45:44

the guy in the dumpster.

45:46

I've never been in

45:48

the dumpster In a dumpster,

45:50

man, I've been in

45:52

the dumper too. I've been

45:55

in a few dumpers

45:57

Yeah, always like they didn't even have

45:59

a good dumb was a shitty

46:01

a real dumpster like they didn't

46:03

didn't have like this uh wow

46:05

wow that's kind of fucked up

46:09

You'll see, picks it up, You know, one of

46:11

those things. where you pick it up. Yeah. And

46:13

I'm in there and then he shuts it.

46:15

Yeah. You know, how to wait for them

46:17

to do their dialogue. And then

46:20

they say cut. So they had like a minute

46:22

of dialogue, two minutes of dialogue. So I'm in

46:24

there. And you got

46:26

to stay in there

46:28

because I did this

46:30

thing where I was

46:32

like the muscle for this drug

46:35

dealer, like this crystal meth

46:37

drug dealer. And The

46:39

guy from Outlaw, the

46:41

series Outlaw, I forget

46:44

his name, but he's

46:46

got us, he's torturing

46:48

us in the basement,

46:50

right? So they got us

46:52

tied up, bound and gagged

46:54

in this basement. And he's

46:56

taking the gun and he's putting

46:58

it to our head and

47:00

he's pistol whipping us and all

47:02

kinds of stuff. And we're

47:04

tied up. You,

47:07

you, you know, you, you got to kind

47:09

of tie, they got to tie you.

47:11

They can't fake tie you up. They got

47:13

to tie you up because it's got

47:15

to be real. And, uh, man, a couple

47:18

of times, like the, the gag, like

47:20

they had a, like they put a sock

47:22

in your mouth and the gag and

47:24

like it would really, you know, it gets

47:26

real. The kid, there was this kid

47:28

from, um, Australia that was playing the

47:30

lead. He, so we

47:32

go on break. and

47:34

he's tied up and I mean we're

47:36

sweating and this is going on take

47:38

after take a couple of hours

47:40

we're working on the different cuts and

47:43

this and that we go and

47:45

break he goes no I'll stay here

47:47

like because he didn't want to get

47:49

out of the mode of you

47:51

know the stress of the scene and

47:53

we went and ate lunch and

47:55

he stayed in the basement tied up

47:57

and I was like I've

48:04

been beaten, I've had

48:06

scratches, I've had cuts, I've

48:09

been bruised up. But

48:11

you know, what are you going to do? You know, it's

48:13

part of the job sometimes, just keep it moving. Yeah, and

48:15

you get paid well. You know, when you

48:17

get, when you get to check, you're like, all

48:19

right. Put on fire once, that was pretty cool.

48:21

Really? They put the suit

48:23

on you in the gel and everything. Yeah,

48:25

they put the gel, not a suit,

48:28

but actually the clothes. The door gelled up

48:30

and they put me on fire for like a

48:32

minute or two. It was kind of fun. That's

48:35

a nice check. That's

48:37

a nice... That's

48:39

a nice check. I always, you gotta do, I

48:41

always had to do my, my own stunts cause

48:43

they didn't have stunt men that with my body

48:45

type. So he was like, uh, so, and you

48:47

know, you get to the point where you're willing

48:49

to do whatever, but it, you show up and

48:51

it's also, you had the same problem that like

48:53

Judy gold would have where they'd be like, all

48:55

right, you know what? Uh, why don't you bring

48:57

your own clothes? Bring

49:00

your own clothes for wardrobe. They

49:04

did a, they did a

49:06

series of, um, called

49:08

Limitless. Remember

49:10

the movie Limitless in the

49:12

series? So I go to

49:14

the series, I go in, and I usually

49:16

wear all my jewelry out when I'm

49:18

out. I haven't had my jewelry on since

49:21

the COVID. But I go in there

49:23

with a leather jacket, some boots, my jewelry, and

49:25

stuff. And they go, oh, wardrobe

49:27

came already. And

49:29

I ended up just walking on

49:31

set with my clothes. Yeah,

49:34

it's a weird thing. Joe,

49:36

what's your experience like being

49:38

a dad with all this stuff? Like,

49:40

not the showbiz part, but, you know, like,

49:43

how did you find being

49:45

a dad? What are those things? I

49:47

it. Yeah. I love it. It's great.

49:49

Yeah. it's the best thing in the world.

49:53

Yeah, it seems bizarre to me. Like, I

49:55

know that there's these high moments. I see people

49:57

with kids and they enjoy the high moments

49:59

because I'm always debating it myself. at

50:01

some point, but there's also like the crazy

50:03

lows. I mean, you have a teenage daughter.

50:05

That's gotta have been a little bit, even

50:07

the best teenage daughter. It's a little scary

50:09

for a dad, no? Well, it's a

50:11

lot of work. I mean, basically, as

50:14

she was a kid, I mean, I talked

50:16

to my daughter about everything. And basically, I

50:18

really don't tell my daughter what to do. I

50:20

just basically give her suggestions. And I

50:23

tell her the ends and the outs and the rights

50:25

and the wrong. You know, I

50:27

try to lead her on the right path. I

50:29

tell her the wrong friend. or

50:31

a wrong boyfriend, it will be

50:33

life forever. I teach

50:35

you how to say no. I

50:37

teach you to be your own person. I

50:39

teach you to be independent. Ever since she

50:41

was a baby, I remember telling her to

50:43

hang out on the couch and chill out

50:45

for like 10, 15 minutes and do her

50:47

own thing. Since she was a baby, I've

50:49

been teaching her independence. You know,

50:51

she's very independent. I'm very

50:53

lucky with her. She's really good. But Date,

50:56

you were very independent and you started banging

50:58

it like seven and a half, right? do

51:01

you mean? Yeah, I

51:03

was 11. I'm 11. But, but it

51:05

was, you know, it's a weird, you

51:07

know, like I always say, I was

51:09

hanging out with older dudes and they,

51:11

and, and When I say older

51:13

dudes, I was 11 and they were, I

51:15

was like 10, 11 and they were like

51:17

17, 18. And what you don't

51:19

realize is 17, 18 year old dudes, they

51:21

don't do nothing but lie on their

51:23

dick. That's all they ever do is

51:26

lie on their dick. And so I was 11

51:28

and I was looking up to these guys at

51:30

17 years old and I was 11 years old

51:32

and they said, I remember this one of the

51:34

dudes said, look, if you

51:36

do not go down on

51:38

your girl, she can be taken

51:40

I'm 11 years old right

51:42

I got this little girlfriend I

51:44

mean say 11 years old

51:46

is what grade that's gotta be

51:48

eighth grade or seventh grade

51:50

something some ridiculous like was it

51:52

five eleven I don't even

51:54

know if you're eight eleven sixth

51:58

grade or sixth grade? Sixth grade. grade.

52:00

So I got this little girlfriend and I'm

52:02

trying to convince her that I should go down

52:04

on her because I don't want her to

52:06

leave me, right? With her little,

52:08

her little sixth grade pissy panties, right?

52:10

And I'm like trying to, I'm trying

52:12

to figure out, and I'm like, we,

52:14

no, you, that's, they told me, um,

52:16

later when I found out that the

52:18

guys who were advising me They were

52:21

all virgins. None of them had gotten

52:23

laid. They had no experience at all.

52:25

Everything that they had learned about women,

52:27

they learned from porno. And

52:29

they were filtering it through me.

52:31

And I took it as the truth.

52:33

And all fairness, that advice does hold up

52:35

if you down. It does, Ellen. It's

52:37

true. You do not go down. She will

52:39

leave you. She will leave you. Whatever

52:42

else happens, whatever happens,

52:44

you know. You better go down. That's

52:46

all I'm saying. Yeah, my daughter was always

52:49

good, man. I remember like playing tricks on her

52:51

too. Like I'd be in the car and

52:53

I have one of my friends call me up

52:55

and tell me say like my friend called

52:57

me up. He's like, Hey, Joe, what are you

52:59

doing? was like, Oh, not much just hanging

53:01

out, hanging out relax. He's like, Oh, my daughter

53:03

met this friend and you know, she's off

53:05

the hook. She's doing bad in school. I

53:08

don't know what to do. I'm trying to get

53:10

my daughter in shape. I'm trying to make her

53:12

be good messing her up. And I'd be like, oh,

53:14

dude, I don't know what to tell you, man.

53:16

You got to tell him to stay away from

53:18

bad people. It's not good. I

53:20

don't have the phone with my friend. I wouldn't even

53:22

say no to my daughter. My daughter would

53:24

be listening. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she'd

53:26

be like, oh, wow. I don't want to be like

53:29

that. I gotta watch the friends on

53:31

me. You gotta trick

53:33

these kids sometimes. You gotta

53:35

tell them what to do because if you tell them, do this,

53:37

they're gonna be like, I don't want to do that. I

53:39

don't want to do something else. I would tell

53:41

my daughter like, I remember it was after school

53:43

program. I was like, actually, you know, you should

53:45

do that after school program. It's pretty cool.

53:48

She's like, no, I don't want to do that, daddy. Two

53:50

weeks later, I call up my ex -wife

53:52

with Ashley up to, oh, she's at the

53:54

after -school program. But I don't

53:56

go and tell my daughter, see, I told you

53:58

so. I just don't even think about it.

54:00

Right, right, right, right. How did you,

54:02

how did you, how was the breakup

54:04

with your ex -wife? How did that

54:07

work? And how did that, how did

54:09

you make that cordial? and that

54:11

transition. I mean, you know, because sometimes

54:13

that's hard and the reality is

54:15

that just sometimes, you know, I always

54:17

say, you know, I say this

54:19

all the time, relationships are really easy.

54:21

You just have to decide what

54:23

your non -negotiables are and then never

54:25

negotiate them. And just because this is

54:27

what you want now that comes

54:29

a time where people grow apart and

54:31

they want different things, was the divorce

54:33

amiable or was it difficult or

54:35

did it, you know, it sounds to

54:37

me now like it's amiable and

54:39

you kind of, you co -parent and

54:41

you kind of understand where you're coming

54:43

from. Was it always like that

54:45

or no? In the beginning it was

54:48

a little rocky, but you know, I

54:50

just said, you know, whatever you want,

54:52

whatever you want, that's it. Yeah. Well,

54:54

what do you want? You want it? No.

54:57

Whatever, you know? You You

54:59

you just got to make them, you know I

55:02

mean also the kid the kid was most

55:04

important to you I mean you look like

55:06

you really and so you wanted that to

55:08

be the but you you know you find

55:10

a lot of times you know like You

55:13

know, when you split up with people

55:15

and people use the children to get

55:17

back at you because they know that

55:19

they can, if they can't affect you

55:21

in certain ways, how did you find

55:23

a way to kind of resolve that

55:25

in a real way? Or did you

55:28

just not engage it at all? Well,

55:30

what I do did basically in the

55:32

beginning is, you know, I

55:36

asked her what she

55:38

wanted and we made up the

55:40

papers and I was like, okay. And

55:42

I get my daughter every other

55:44

weekend. And you know, I just

55:46

got her every weekend. I showed up every kind

55:48

of teacher night, showed up for my daughter whenever

55:50

she needed anything. And just whatever my

55:52

ex -wife said, we just talked about it like

55:54

human beings. We were adults about it. It didn't

55:56

work out, but you know, we had to do

55:58

the right thing for the kids. Was

56:00

she mature enough to do

56:02

that, or was she? Yes.

56:05

So you got lucky, but I mean,

56:07

you know, I've seen, I mean, we've

56:10

all seen situations where people do those

56:12

divorces and it's just like I get

56:14

calls about that all the time where,

56:16

where the, where the person is really

56:18

being selfish in terms of they're not, they're

56:21

not lifting the kid up. You know I

56:23

mean? You know, me and my

56:25

ex -wife were always cool. Like, you know, it was supposed

56:27

to be every other week, but it's

56:29

like, if you, if you couldn't get them one

56:31

week, no problem, get them next week. You know,

56:33

You can't pick them up at 12. You have

56:35

to be there at 11 or 11. No problem.

56:37

You know, we were always good like that. Basically,

56:39

because just the way I think, the way I

56:42

deal with situations, I'm

56:44

just trying to be a nice guy and I'm kind

56:46

about things. Well, you know, we went

56:48

to counseling and we tried to work it out.

56:50

It didn't work out. Sometimes when things don't work

56:52

out, you just gotta keep it moving, you know?

56:54

People change. You're a Great person, great

56:57

lady, you know. Right. Just

56:59

didn't work. Just did jail. You guys didn't work.

57:02

How old would you do it when you when

57:04

you got divorced? Two

57:06

Two years old.

57:08

Wow. So Wow, so

57:10

And what the whole process was

57:12

done at about what time? So

57:17

two years old you you were

57:19

completely divorced by two by the time

57:21

she was two. Yeah, something

57:23

like that pretty close So

57:25

it kind of so she

57:27

was too young to really

57:29

understand so the way it

57:31

is now is kind of

57:33

the way it always was

57:35

Like when you divorce that

57:38

early it's easier for the

57:40

kid I guess Yeah, it's not

57:42

like she was 10 and

57:44

it's like boom When I first

57:46

time she really only said

57:48

like daddy, you know, she really even walk

57:50

she didn't know what was going on really

57:52

Yeah, it's difficult when

57:54

the kid is heavily,

57:57

you know, is a product of the marriage

57:59

that's been going on for some time and then

58:01

all of a sudden you're not there. kind

58:05

of a you know it's it's a shock for

58:07

them you know it's all how you deal with it

58:09

too it's all how you you talk

58:11

to your kid about the situation i'm gonna

58:13

open up with my daughter i tell

58:15

her anything i've been talking to my daughter

58:17

about drugs alcohol sex anything since she's

58:20

like 10 years old i remember her telling

58:22

me daddy i'm 10 i was like yeah

58:24

i'd rather i'd rather i talk to

58:26

you about it than you learn on your

58:28

own because if you learn on your

58:30

own you're not gonna know you know what's

58:32

gonna happen If

58:35

you learn on your own, you're going to run into

58:37

a bunch of virgins. Before that guy says, I

58:39

want to go down on you. I

58:41

want you to know Why

58:44

he wants to go down on you all? Or

58:48

what is going

58:50

down on? What is

58:53

it mentioned? Does he want to go

58:55

down and carry you? Is he going

58:57

to school? Is he doing the right

58:59

thing? Is he a drug dealer? Is

59:01

he a thug? Or is he a

59:03

nut guy? I try to teach you

59:05

that's the most important part in life

59:07

sometimes. My

59:09

parents

59:11

didn't handle their divorce particularly

59:13

well at all. and we were

59:15

not children we were fully grown

59:18

adults my mom did my mom

59:20

was wild for the night before

59:22

and after um but they proceeded

59:24

my mom thought the best the

59:26

best way to parent tell the

59:28

story Harry tell the story oh

59:31

my god my mom

59:33

felt the best way was to uh

59:35

claim that my father was a cross

59:37

dresser based on no information, which

59:40

I guess is a Hispanic woman

59:42

thing to do, which is immediately attack

59:44

the masculinity of the father. He's

59:46

a gay. Like what? And

59:48

then also the same time he gave

59:50

me the earpiece. Your father gave me the

59:52

earpiece. And

59:55

I'm like, I don't know which

59:57

parenting book you read, mom, but this

59:59

doesn't seem like out of any of them. Oh

1:00:02

my god. She didn't understand if he gave

1:00:04

her the herpes. She's saying that she had the

1:00:06

herpes. She didn't get that

1:00:08

part. She didn't understand. Somehow

1:00:11

he gave it to her. And then I, so then I have

1:00:13

to ask my dad. He's like, I don't, what the fuck is

1:00:15

she talking about? No, I don't have, if

1:00:17

I have it, she has it and neither of us has

1:00:19

it. That's

1:00:21

right. Uh, she's wild for the, she's

1:00:23

so wild for the night. She's off

1:00:25

the hook. Well, she was the one

1:00:28

I ended up catching when I came home.

1:00:30

That's how I they ended up getting divorced

1:00:32

your divorce was nice and amicable Joe my

1:00:34

my parents divorce was me coming home

1:00:36

and catching my mom

1:00:38

Basically, there was a dude in her

1:00:40

closet that I had to like Like

1:00:42

one of the handyman working on like some

1:00:44

construction thing we were doing And then

1:00:46

I then I opened she didn't want me

1:00:48

to check it in I went in

1:00:50

I opened the closet and I see like

1:00:53

some guy cowering in the corner

1:00:55

like he's scared some Guatemalan dude

1:00:57

and so I don't know

1:00:59

why I was just so in shock that

1:01:01

I just shut the I slid the

1:01:03

closet tore back closed it back as if

1:01:05

I was like and then I was

1:01:07

gonna open it back up as if I

1:01:09

was doing a magic trick like there's

1:01:12

no way my mom acted my mom was

1:01:14

like I don't even remember the craziness

1:01:16

of what she she said because she's so

1:01:18

fucking nuts that she was saying Oh,

1:01:20

it wasn't a thing It was we thought

1:01:22

your father was coming home and your

1:01:24

father's crazy and it was all about my

1:01:26

dad being crazy Because my mom is mentally

1:01:28

ill and I love her to death, but

1:01:30

she's mentally ill. Yeah, she's

1:01:33

crazy So then that was up

1:01:35

to me to inform my dad of what was

1:01:37

going on which is a tough task because he's

1:01:39

working on like when do I tell him I

1:01:41

tell him he's crazy and the

1:01:44

only way to cure that is to

1:01:46

have a Guatemala in his boxes

1:01:48

in the closet. I mean that works

1:01:50

out. It's

1:01:53

effective. But

1:01:55

the thing is also that

1:01:57

when you stay in those relationships,

1:02:00

when you stay in relationships that are bad,

1:02:02

what you're doing basically is you're

1:02:04

teaching your daughter or your son

1:02:07

to put up with this kind of

1:02:09

unhappiness. So a lot of

1:02:11

times I'll get guys on, you know,

1:02:13

I stayed together for the kids. And

1:02:15

if you stay together for the kids

1:02:17

and you're fighting and you're arguing every

1:02:19

day, what also happens is now this

1:02:21

is what they're seeing. And so you're teaching

1:02:23

them that in

1:02:26

their relationships that this

1:02:28

behavior is acceptable, that

1:02:30

fighting and all that craziness

1:02:32

is acceptable, which is, which

1:02:34

is why Harry's a comedian.

1:02:37

That's right. That's how

1:02:39

I end up. on this

1:02:41

fucking podcast because I think

1:02:43

it's acceptable to throw spaghetti

1:02:45

against the wall. That's how

1:02:47

how else do you solve

1:02:49

an argument? Right? How else

1:02:51

do you? Yeah, that's that

1:02:53

the whole thing is yeah,

1:02:55

you're you're all that stuff. It had the

1:02:57

opposite effect on me for a long time.

1:02:59

It messed me up because I

1:03:01

was anti

1:03:04

confrontational. To the point where like

1:03:06

if you brought me the wrong order at a

1:03:08

restaurant, I would just be like well, I guess

1:03:10

some Yes, I'm eating shrimp. I got

1:03:12

a I got a shrimp

1:03:14

allergy, but I mean shrimp today

1:03:16

somebody give me a epidermis

1:03:19

What yeah All because I'm like, I

1:03:21

don't want to create any controversy I

1:03:23

don't want to create any problems because

1:03:25

I'm used to my mom and dad

1:03:27

screaming at a deli counter in Public or

1:03:29

you know that that's how they handle shit. I'm

1:03:31

like, oh, so you either end up being

1:03:33

that thing Yeah, end up continuing

1:03:35

the chain or you do the opposite, which

1:03:37

is you try to avoid that entirely. So

1:03:40

now I'm the only one in my my of

1:03:42

my family that is just quiet and the

1:03:44

rest of the family's out of their fucking mind.

1:03:46

Every single one of them. But that's how

1:03:48

they communicate. And that's why I can't live there

1:03:50

like most of the time. I had

1:03:53

to I had to take like a 10 year hiatus from

1:03:55

that where I was like, I need a break from this.

1:03:57

Oh, come back. I'm like, no, you don't

1:03:59

you don't understand. Yeah,

1:04:04

People like each other. love seeing people like your

1:04:06

mother and father at the deli and I'd be

1:04:08

with my daughter and we'd just be like, me

1:04:10

and my daughter would look at them and start,

1:04:12

everything was learned and experienced with them. Like I'd

1:04:14

say, look at those people. Look

1:04:16

at them. And none would get done. When

1:04:18

you act like that, the store won't do anything

1:04:20

for you. And then me and my daughter would

1:04:22

walk up to the people at the deli counter.

1:04:24

Hey, how you doing? How's your day going? Yeah,

1:04:27

I'm ready to do it. The same

1:04:29

thing your mother and father asked for, that

1:04:31

they didn't drive. And then we get

1:04:33

it. Yeah, man. Yes. Joey,

1:04:36

man. That was a learning experience for me, too. Yeah,

1:04:38

Joey, man, thank you so much for

1:04:40

doing this, man. I appreciate you, man. I

1:04:42

can't wait till we, you know, we

1:04:44

get things get back to normal, we get

1:04:46

back on stage, and, you know, I

1:04:49

see you. be New York, baby. We got to do

1:04:51

it. Yeah, we got you got that show coming up.

1:04:53

We're gonna, I don't know. We don't have a date

1:04:55

yet, but we're working on it. Right? No, I

1:04:57

got the zoom my

1:04:59

zoom comedy show. That's

1:05:01

your life. wants

1:05:05

me to do a show there. Okay. But

1:05:07

right now, nothing's going on. So I mean, yeah,

1:05:09

we got to see what it is. It's

1:05:11

gonna, you know, you at least you

1:05:13

kind of feel like there's a light at

1:05:15

the end of the tunnel. Now, at least it

1:05:17

kind of feels that way. Unless you know,

1:05:19

unless everything goes to shit. But who knows what

1:05:22

the fuck is gonna happen. They got to

1:05:24

start opening up and just let's let's just open it

1:05:26

up and see what happens. Yeah. Well, yeah,

1:05:28

I mean, I lost I lost

1:05:30

like 11 people, like co workers

1:05:32

and family. So it's like, You

1:05:34

know, I mean, I got mixed

1:05:36

feelings about it. But Joey, man,

1:05:38

thank you so much for doing

1:05:40

this. Tell

1:05:42

me about the Amazon Prime, so that they

1:05:44

can show that you have one. What's the

1:05:46

name of it again? Graves

1:05:48

Inn. Graves Inn. And you got

1:05:50

your Zoom thing that you're

1:05:52

doing when? July 25th.

1:05:55

July 25th, cool. It's

1:05:57

global. OK. All

1:05:59

right. You can watch it in the corner of your

1:06:01

house on your couch. I'm

1:06:04

at Joseph the north real official Joseph

1:06:06

the north real on

1:06:08

Facebook. You're better follow

1:06:10

it Joe spell it

1:06:12

so they can they

1:06:14

can follow you joseph D

1:06:18

O N O F R I

1:06:20

O official official. All right, Joe. Thank

1:06:22

you for doing this. He's gonna

1:06:24

probably have it on the bottom. Oh,

1:06:27

he has it. He has it there. He's it's there.

1:06:29

I just want to make sure you it. He's

1:06:31

got the he's got the full name

1:06:33

on the bottom. Uh, uh,

1:06:38

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