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I'm at the end of my rope.
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I'm trying to end things with my girl.
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And she's not letting me. Wow. She took
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my dog when I was at work and
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brought it to her house, which is
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like an hour away. What did she do,
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Johnny, that you've had enough of her? She's
0:15
just fucking mean. Topeka. This is interesting because
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I've been through this. But I had
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somebody who I would be like, yo, get
0:22
the kat of my house, right? Yeah. It
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took you. It took you a decade and
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a decade and a break up with
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this. I'm not an outside male.
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I'm not a beta male either.
0:33
I'm just a better man. Better
0:35
man. I'm good. I got some place
0:37
I mean, this is the place
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where you call what's going on.
0:41
At the end of my rope,
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I'm trying to end things with
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my girl and she's not letting
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me. Wow. She stole my dog.
0:50
She what? She took my dog when
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I was at work and brought it
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to her house, which is like an
0:57
hour away. Wow, she yeah, she I
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told her you know, all the problems
1:01
that I had now she's coming
1:03
up with solutions, but
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I've already stepped out and
1:07
done my own thing and Did
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you did you tell it at you
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stepped out? Yeah, and she doesn't
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care. She don't care. She don't
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care. Oh, it sounds like it's
1:19
come back. It's time to
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renegotiate here But I mean,
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why do you say that?
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I mean, it seems like
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if she don't care. I
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mean, this could this could
1:32
be a game changer, but
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obviously, I think with all
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jokes aside, I think she's
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he's had it with her in
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general. I don't think
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anything. What did she
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do, Johnny, that you've had,
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had enough of her? Yeah.
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Now let me this is interesting
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because I've been through this right
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had your dog's dog. Harry knows
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I've not a dog deaf, but
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I had some who I would
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be like, yo, get the fuck out
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of my house, right? Yeah, it took
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you a decade and a half to
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break up with this girl. And we
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still know she's not going for
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sure. It's been two years, but
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I'm still not willing. It's like
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a missing body. I don't think
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we should close the case on this.
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I don't know, because it could, you
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know. So what happened was, uh... We
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were dating and I'd be like, yo, get
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the fuck out my house. She's actually the
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girl that stabbed me. So that's interesting. But
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that's not the first time you broke up
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with her was the stabbing. That was at
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least 20 great cups before. No, no, no.
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Yo, what up before? I would go get
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the fuck out and she would go, she
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would leave my house, right? And then come
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back in the house and eat with a bag
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of chips and a soda and
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a soda and be like, hey
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babe, like nothing ever happened. And
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I didn't know, I didn't know
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how like what you could, what
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happens is a lot of times
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when you want out and you
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have somebody who's toxic, like it's
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interesting because you said she's
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mean, right? When they're
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mean, you get into a
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situation where the reason
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why they're mean is
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because they're abusive, you
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know, like they're accustomed
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to abuse. Am I right?
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I let her push me around
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for a little bit and
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then now I'm standing up
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for myself. Okay now because
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here's the thing about abusive
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people abusive people will they
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will so there's in any
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abusive relationship there is a
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there's two parts there's the
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abuser and the abuse you
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understand and abusive people don't
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care which which position they
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play. All they care
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about is the fact that both
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positions are both, both, what
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am I looking for? Both
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roles are being, the story
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is happening and both roles
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are. present? Both, not both, yeah,
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both roles are, both archetypes of
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fulfill. That's the word I'm looking
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for. So they don't care if
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they are the abuser or the
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abuser, it doesn't matter as long
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as both. So when they meet
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somebody who's more abusive, they will
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take the submissive position. And when
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they meet somebody who's less abusive,
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they'll be abusive. comes from a
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situation where usually in their lifetime
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they've had they grew up in
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the in a very toxic household
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maybe a parent was mean or
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nasty and they were submissive or
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whatever and so what they're always
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people are always trying to recreate
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this idea this kind of toxic
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environment right and then when they
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move out so what'll happen it
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doesn't matter who What position you
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play, they just, just both, both
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archetypes need to be fulfilled. Now
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why do you think that is
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Dante? Why do they gotta feel
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both archetypes? Well, they're trying to
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recreate their household. Gotcha. They're trying
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to recreate the, the, uh, the
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environment that they're, that they're familiar
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with, right? So they grew up
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in a chaotic environment. Right, so
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they try to recreate that. And
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so then you, then they go
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out and they, you know, they
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date you and they find out
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what, you know, what kind of
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salt you made out of and,
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you know, how you're, what you're
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made of, and then based on
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how you approach, Johnny, that's how
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they react. Now, here's the problem
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with this. It is very intoxicating
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when you are being disrespectful and
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mean. Like, so for instance, you
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let her push you around, yes.
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Yeah, you know, it started with,
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let me go through your phone,
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blah blah blah blah blah, all
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this stupid, you know. Right, all
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this stuff that I, how long
5:56
you been listening to the show?
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I'm calling too late, I know.
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Don't get gas, do you hear
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me? Don't take it. It's too
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late, Johnny's covered in gas, but
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it's all right. All of the
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things that I, the all of
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the things that I told you
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not to do, right? Yeah, yeah.
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And, but what happens is here's
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the problem with this. You know,
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you never get high on your
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own supply. What happens is, um.
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You start to like get out
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of here, leave me alone, I
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want to break up with you,
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I already cheated on you, and
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they go, I don't care, we're
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together, right? And it becomes kind
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of intoxicating that somebody likes you
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that much, likes you to the
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degree that they're literally going, I
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don't care what you say or
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what you do, right? I am,
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I'm sticking it out. And it's
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kind of, it happens in a
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way where we literally are like,
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it gets to be so weird
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because of the fact that we
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don't know, it's almost like we
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don't know, we don't know how
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to, we've never had that situation
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where somebody cares about us so
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much, but where they care about
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themselves to the degree that they,
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You know, that they, uh, that
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they, they don't care about themselves,
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if that makes sense. Um, so
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you gotta, you gotta be in
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a situation where you, you can't
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let that get you, put you
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in a, in a situation where
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you, you start believing the hype
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in a way, you know, like
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you, you gotta, um, You gotta
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still maintain your dignity and your
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respect and your credibility. But the
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fact that she stole your dog
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is like, look, if you wanted
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to get, do you really think
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she's gonna keep your dog? Is
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that what you think? No, I
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just, no, I could go get
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it anytime, I just don't know.
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how to the safest way to
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retrieve it. Okay, look, the way
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I would do it, now is
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Now is she violent as well?
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Yeah. Does this plane, does this
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plane, does this airline have plane
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crashes? I mean, sometimes, but not
8:26
every time. She's been violent before.
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Yeah. And, and what makes you
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think she's not violent now? Uh,
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because I'll, I'm fucking, I'll report
8:34
her as I'll call her, get
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her in trouble. Okay. That I'm
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not. If you want your dog,
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you really want out of this,
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right? Yeah. Call the cops, go
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get your dog. I broke up
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with my girlfriend, she stole my
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dog and go get my, go
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get your dog. Make sure any
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communication is in text also. No,
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no, no calls, everything. Give me
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my dog back or else you
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took my dog. It's not right
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that you told my dog, I
9:03
want to return or else I'm
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going to have to. I'm going
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to have to go further. Yeah,
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so this way, so you have
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a record. But the other thing
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is, what happens is, you know,
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you got to go to the
9:18
cops and you got to retrieve
9:20
your dog and then you do
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to put you, the only way
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she's going to know that you're
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serious is that you officially have
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to be like you really, you
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got to really not this, want
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this to go down, you know,
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and if you're hesitant about... Nonstop
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phone calls, I blocked the phone
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number, downloaded new phone numbers. non-fucking
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stop. Yeah well she was because
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she doesn't give us like people
9:44
we we think about that in
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a way that like wow she
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really is into me right but
9:51
it's really not it's really it
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shows how selfish she is like
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what she's saying is I don't
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care what you're going to I
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don't care what you want I
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don't care about your happiness this
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is what I want and because
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I want this is what we're
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gonna do you know She doesn't,
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it's not really a concern about
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her. It's like, oh, she's been
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mean. I'm quite sure you told
10:15
her, you told her to things
10:17
about that, that you had a
10:19
problem with, and she never had
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a, she never was in a
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situation where this was, this was
10:26
something she wanted to face. And
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so you have to understand that
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if, even if you stay with
10:32
her, that this is probably what
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the situation is gonna be. Makes
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sense? Yep. You cannot like Dilly
10:38
Dally, Dally, like you can't jump
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back and forth. You got call
10:42
the cops, go get your dog
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and not communicate with her. And
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even if she calls, I wouldn't
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necessarily, I mean, I mean, well,
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you already changed your number, but
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I don't change the number, you
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just don't pick it up. And
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eventually, go ahead. I didn't change
10:59
my number, I blocked her number
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to make her stop calling me
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because it was constant. Okay, really?
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Well, I mean, so really, then
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you're doing the right thing, but
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I mean, you gotta be, you
11:11
also gotta be really honest with
11:13
yourself if you, that you don't
11:15
want this. And if you don't
11:17
want this, you gotta really, you
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gotta not, you can't, like the
11:21
minute you dabble back and you,
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you know. the minute you dabble
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and go you know like I
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so I remember I had a
11:29
couple of chicks who was stalking
11:32
me and then and then I
11:34
remember them stop they stopped stalking
11:36
me and I remember calling And
11:38
I'm like, hey, you felt a
11:40
little hurt. You're a little hurt.
11:42
What's up? What's up with you?
11:44
Yeah, where you been? Like, how
11:46
did... I noticed that you weren't
11:48
in my bathroom window this morning.
11:50
Is everything okay? I just wanted
11:52
to check on you. I went
11:54
in my closet, you weren't there,
11:56
what to go... And so what
11:58
happens is, you got to really
12:00
be honest with yourself about the
12:02
fact that you don't want this.
12:04
You don't want this situation, and
12:07
you got to act accordingly, and
12:09
you can't, you can't flip-flop back
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and forth, but you also, I
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would, I would, I would absolutely...
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We call the cops and go
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get my dog back. And how's
12:19
the new girlfriend? Or the new,
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was it just like a little,
12:23
like a little flow thing, a
12:25
little, a little smash and dash?
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I don't know. I think she
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said I did a good job.
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We'll get a call back, but
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who knows? Who cares? All right.
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Good job. Are you laying, how
12:37
old are you? You sound young?
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22, or 24, sorry. Yeah. Mmm,
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I don't know. But uh, yeah,
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I mean, are you laying the
12:46
five bricks and doing all the
12:48
other things that you're supposed to
12:50
be doing? No, I'm trying, but
12:52
not success. I'm gonna start calling
12:54
in, I'm start doing better. Now
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that- Let me just say this
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too. There's no such thing as
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trying. There's only doing, there's only
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doing, you can't- You can't try.
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You can try, you can do
13:06
and fail, but you can't, you
13:08
can't try. Trying is just, is,
13:10
is, is, is the preparation to
13:12
do. If you, if that, if
13:14
that makes sense. So when you
13:17
say you're trying, all that means
13:19
is bullshit, okay? All right, Johnny.
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But you gotta be really gotta
13:23
create that boundary and then stick
13:25
with it, okay? Yeah. You gotta
13:27
get that dog back and start
13:29
writing that country song. Man, poor
13:31
Johnny. Losing your dog. That's a...
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That's a kid. Yeah, that's a
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dog. She's don't my dog.
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stole my dog,
13:39
Dawn was crazy sure she was
13:41
I remember I Dawn
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was I was like Dawn,
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Dawn was crazy.
13:47
it's over with she looked
13:49
I was like, she
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up. back I mean this
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She looked couple of
13:56
times came back with some
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I mean, this
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happened a couple
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of times. Came
14:04
back she just ice
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cream. to the just
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went down to
14:10
the corner she came
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back and was You ain't going
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ain't going nowhere.
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oh my, like, I
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was like, now? God.
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like, what do
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I do now?
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the thing is Dante, thing
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is, Dante, there
14:29
was two reactions.
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One is you
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ain't going nowhere.
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other other one is she doesn't say
14:38
anything. That's a scary
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one where she scary one, normal. she normal.
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like I'm not like male. I'm not
14:44
a beta male either. male, either. I'm
14:46
just a better man. Better man. Put Put
14:48
your happiness first, because if you
14:51
don't, they won't.
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