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Why are men in such decline? Why
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are so many young men checking out
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of work, more men living at
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home than ever before, you know,
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less young men are having sex
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than ever before, like less young
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men are going to college and
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before? Why is this happening? I
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think there's many reasons. I've talked
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about a few of them before,
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but the one that I don't
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think has gotten enough attention
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is the decades-long campaign.
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of demonizing men. And speaking to men
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and about men as the fundamental problem
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with every issue in existence, basically. And
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I'm gonna use a relationship analogy.
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Okay, imagine that you're dating somebody and
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that person starts to tell you that
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you are a problem, that you're causing
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them harm, that you're damaging them, that
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you're a problem in the relationship, that
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any type of dysfunction that happens in
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the relationship in the relationship in the
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relationship in the relationship, in the relationship,
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in the relationship, in the relationship is
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your fault. And then it gets worse,
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right? They start to say they don't
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need you, they don't want you, they
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actually would be better off without you,
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the world at large would be better
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off without you, that your piece of
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garbage, that, you know, that so many
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of the issues that they face in
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life are because of you, you would
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either move into a very
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defensive and attack oriented stance
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and position. Or you would
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just start to slink out
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of that relationship. Like you'd
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either, hopefully you'd exit that
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relationship entirely, you'd be like,
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why the hell am I here? Or
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you would just, you would check out,
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right? You would literally just check out
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of that relationship and
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be like, why in the hell am I in
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this relationship with you? But
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we have made it
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commonplace. to make blanket
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statements about men as
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being the fundamental systemic
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problem with society. I mean,
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imagine the lack of ingenuity.
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an intellectual honesty that you'd
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have to deploy in order
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to just blame an entire
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sex for all of the
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problems and completely remove any
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type of personal responsibility for
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your part in the equation,
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right? Telling men that they're
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not needed, they're not wanted,
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that they're all rapists, that
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they're pieces of garbage, that,
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you know, they're all narcissists, that
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they're all, you know, violent... that
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they're all terrible, that the
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society would be better off
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without you. What we're experiencing
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now in this mass checkout
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within our society and this
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massive shift, I mean, I've
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been watching post-election in America
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as this whole conversation around
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how men, you know, determined
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this election and how it
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was misogynistic and all of
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this sort of intellectual... rigmarole
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that has unfolded in so
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many political commentators and just
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individuals. Again, blaming men for
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what happened. And I think what
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you're seeing is the consequences of
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blaming men for absolutely
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everything, demonizing men for
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absolutely everything for decades.
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And when you do that, there
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will be consequences. Men will check
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out, men will start to go into
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decline. as they have, they'll stop
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showing up into college spaces because,
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I mean, let's face it, I
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probably wouldn't want to go to
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college if I was a 19-year-old kid in
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today's world, especially if I was a
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19-year-old conservative kid. I would not want
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to go to a college space. You
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know, and even if I was, and
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I mean, I was very liberal as
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an early, I got a music degree,
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you know, but if I was 19 or
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20 again and I was looking at going
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back to college, I mean, I'd have some
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real reservations about whether or not I was
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welcome on that college campus, whether I
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would be wanted in that space. And
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we as human beings are creatures
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of belonging. And we don't generally
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want to go into spaces and
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places where we do not feel
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like we belong or that we
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have to fight for a sense
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of belonging. And, you know, places
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like college campuses have always meant
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to be, they've always been a
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little bit more liberal leading, but
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they've always meant to be
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a place for discourse of difference.
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And we've lost any type of
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capacity to say, you know what? I
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don't agree with what you're saying,
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but that doesn't mean that I'm
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going to try and annihilate you
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and deperson you online and get
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you completely canceled. But this has
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been the modality that
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we've taken. And so many
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men have been inundated with
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the conversation that you're the
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problem, you're contributing to the
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issue, society would be better
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off without you, if you
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just acted more like a
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woman. then you would be, you know,
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then you'd be accepted. And then men in
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relationships hear the same thing, right? I don't
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need you. I don't need you around. I'm
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better off without you or I'm, you know,
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whatever it is, I'm a strong independent woman,
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I don't need you. And then that man
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ends up checking out of that relationship
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in some capacity because relationships
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are reciprocal, right? Relationships
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are meant to be a reciprocal
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thing. But if you show up in
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a relationship with somebody and they're saying,
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then the question starts to manifest
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of, well, then why am I
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in relationship with you? Because I
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thought we were contributing to one
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another for one another's betterment.
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So obviously, there's many different
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reasons that we could give
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why men are struggling, right?
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I mean, you give men
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access to pornography, oftentimes way
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earlier than they can handle.
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I mean, the fact that
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there's no age restrictions. on
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pornography and any 12 year
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old boy can go online
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and why. and see more
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naked women than literally any man
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in the span of human
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history pre -internet saw in
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his entire life is just insane.
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You know, that has a
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very damaging detrimental effect to
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a young man's psyche, to
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a young boy's psyche, because
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it skews his sense of
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what should be accessible. And
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porn is low risk, right? Something
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like pornography is low risk. There's
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no real risk of rejection. But
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in the real world, the stakes
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are very, very high. And so
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we've created conditions for young men
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where everything's kind of anti -risk, right?
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We have helicopter parenting, we've got
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very low risk sexual gratification acquisition.
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So you can just go online
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and watch a whole bunch of
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porn and get sexually gratified, but
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you don't actually have to work
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for it at all. Whereas in
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the real world, you have to go
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and work. You have to go get rejected. There
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is a high level of risk to approaching
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a woman, talking to her and asking for
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her phone number. There's a very high risk
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that she's going to say, no, or I'm
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in a relationship or some form of rejection
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will happen. So when
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you couple telling men for a
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very long time, you're the
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fundamental problem with pretty much everything
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in existence right now, and you're
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not needed. And you couple
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that with giving them environments
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that are not conducive for
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sharpening and helping to develop
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certain masculine qualities, like being
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risk smart, being able to
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take risk, having the resiliency
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to take risk, those are
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generally speaking things that men
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thrive off of. There's a period
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of time in a man's life where he
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will take a tremendous amount of risks. And some
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of them are stupid. Some of
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the risks that I took when I was
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a young man were absolutely, I mean, just dumb.
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They were just plain dumb. But
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those stupid risks
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that I took helped
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to inform and
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helped to rein in
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my risk taking ability
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or a skill, right? Taking a risk
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is a skill set. And if you
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as a young man haven't had the
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opportunity to take real risks, to develop
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that skill, then you're gonna feel less
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capable within the world and within society.
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But the main piece here that I
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really wanna drive home is we are
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creating a narrative where it's become socially
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acceptable to hate on men in a
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way that we would never allow with
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women. We would never, ever allow. individuals
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on any side of the political spectrum
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to just point blank say women are
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the fundamental problem and to spew hatred
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around women. I mean misandry has become
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so commonplace and so socially acceptable that
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I literally have young men reaching out
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to me saying things like I grew
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up in a household where my mom
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just hated men and she told me
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how bad men were and she told
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me how I she hoped I I
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never became like my father or any
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of the men that I was around.
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And so I never really had any
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kind of role model or idea of
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what type of manic should be because
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it just seemed like she just hated
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men all the time. And so this
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type of blatant misandry has become so
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commonplace that a lot of men don't
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even, it's not even that they don't
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even know how to become a good
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man. It's that they don't even want
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to take the risk to do that
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because it seems like there's no... winning.
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There's no possibility that you could ever
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develop yourself into a man that society
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and culture is going to approve of.
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And that's problematic, right? That's problematic. I
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mean, on the one hand with women,
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what we're saying right now is you
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do whatever it is that you want.
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We're sort of giving women a, again,
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this sort of like blank check of
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go be whoever and whatever you want.
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We're not going to put any labels
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on it. We're going to define anything.
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If you never want to have kids
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and stay single and work... job for
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the rest of your life and have
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five cats like cool power to you.
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There's some hate around the quote unquote
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trad wife, right? If you want to
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be a traditional wife and stay at
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home and raise kids, there seems to
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be some commentary around that. But for
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the most part, it's like ladies go
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off and do whatever you want. But
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for men, there is this huge movement
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constantly telling men, you need to do
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this, you need to act like this,
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you can't do these things, you can't
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say that things. to the point where
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if you're a man who cares about
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being in shape you're a misogynist somehow
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because you want to keep your body in
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shape. I mean it's gotten to the point
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where it's so ridiculous that I
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think the average man looks out
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on social media and looks out
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on the content and the conversation
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around masculinity and just kind of
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throws his hands up and is
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like I'll be back. when y'all are
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done with this bullshit. I'll check back
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into society when you start to like
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end this nonsense because this is crazy.
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And so I think to wrap this
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up, what I really want to drive
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home is that we need a more
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positive vision for men and masculinity. You
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know, if you're somebody out there, if
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you're a man that's trying to work
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on himself, or if you're a single
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mom trying to raise a son, you
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need to have a positive vision for
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men and masculinity. And we need
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to eradicate this absolute bullshit
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garbage notion that we can tell
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men that the world is better off
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without them. Men already kill themselves way
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more than women do. And they do
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that in part, if you look into
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the data in their research, which Richard
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Reeves has talked about a lot, they
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do that in part because they feel
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useless, right? A man's ability to
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contribute to family, to society,
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to society, to culture. is
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incredibly important to him. And when
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we take that away and we say you're
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not wanted, you're not needed, I'm going
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to reject the opportunities for you to
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develop the skills to contribute. to provide
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to add value for your life
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and the people around you, then
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men will fundamentally suffer. And we
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see this happening. And so we
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need to create more positive
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visions, role models, opportunities for
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men to step into. Second,
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guys, if you are somebody
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that is struggling personally
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and you've got caught up in
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this rhetoric of all men bad, all
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men the problem, you know, world would
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be better off without men. and you're
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not really too sure where
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to start, start to pursue
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some type of adventure, IRL,
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in real life, get off
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of online forums, get off
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of the online conversations, pursue
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adventure in real life, like
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go hike in the woods, go
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camp, go touch grass, go
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sleep under the stars, plan
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a solo trip somewhere that,
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you know, seems wild, like you know.
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Motorcycle through Thailand, backpack through Italy. I
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don't know what it is for you.
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Go pursue some adventure in real life. Maybe
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that just means that you go to the
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local bar and you talk to a woman.
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You know, and like that's that's the adventure
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that you pursue just to see what
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happens, just to see how it goes.
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Start to pursue some real adventure in
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your life so that you have some
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aliveness. I mean, I read through a
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lot of the comments of men that
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are struggling, whether they're young or they're
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old. And my gosh, does it sound
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bleak? You know, I think for a
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lot of the men that are out
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there, it just feels and sounds bleak.
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And how you combat when you
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feel bleak and hopeless in life
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is by saying yes to adventure.
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I mean, this is the whole point
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of most of what Homer wrote about
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in the Odyssey and the Iliad, right?
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It's like we have to say yes
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to adventure. Otherwise, stagnation and
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mediocrity and a kind
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of bleak mundane... You know
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cover just starts to come over our
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psyche and our hearts and our soul.
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So say yes to adventure. And then
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lastly, as I was talking about
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before, start to take risks.
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We need to encourage young men
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and men in general to take
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some risks, to start to fail,
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and to start to develop
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the ability to know how to
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take risks, to get better at
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saying, yes, this is a smart
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risk that I can take. But
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if we don't allow them to
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fail and stumble and get things
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wrong, if you never allow yourself
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as a man to develop the
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skill of being able to take
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risks because risks take you on
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a very specific adventure. You will
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suffer as a man because there
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is some type of correlation, and
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maybe I should do another video
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on this, there's some type
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of correlation between you having a
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very deep level of self-respect as
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a man and your ability and
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your competency in being able to
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take risks because risks take you
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on a very specific adventure. So
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take some risks today, tomorrow, this
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week, let that be your mission
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for a little while, and for
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the love of all that is
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holy, can we all stop feeding
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into this narrative that men are
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just point blank the problem to
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everything that the world would be
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better off without men. The world
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would literally collapse in a matter
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of hours if men just disappeared.
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Everything would fall apart immediately
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because men are necessary and
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so are women. Anyway, I'd love
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to hear why you think
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men are in decline. I'd
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love to hear your take
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and your thoughts on this
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conversation, specifically about the demonization
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of men over the last
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few decades. And don't forget
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to man it forward. Don't
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forget to subscribe to the
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channel. Until next week, Connor
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Beaton, signing off.
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