0:02

A listener production. By

0:05

finding that op shop

0:07

bargain, these boys come pre

0:09

-worn. And maybe need a

0:11

wash. Oh, my word. It's

0:13

Matt and Alex All Day

0:15

Breakfast. Well, after Belinda

0:17

has mopped up the tears that

0:19

she's cried for, you know, the

0:22

departure of her favourite show, Maths.

0:24

Okay, she's been watching. Oh, it's

0:26

all over. Yeah, she really feels

0:28

empty. Is it just me? Or

0:30

did this year, you know, the

0:32

train every year seems to have

0:35

more carriages that just crash into

0:37

a burning wreckage. Well, this is

0:39

why I wanted to bring it

0:41

up, because... and I were talking

0:43

about it, right, just the other

0:45

night. And, I mean, while Clint

0:48

and Jackie, who were

0:50

a very unlikely matched couple,

0:52

Clint being the sometimes

0:54

partial professional golfer, and Jackie,

0:56

the online entrepreneur who

0:58

raised a lot of eyebrows

1:00

across the series, are

1:02

now charging up to $500

1:04

per interview and $250

1:06

per comment to talk about

1:08

their marriage or their

1:10

engagement. I

1:13

was looking at the results

1:15

of this experiment and

1:17

officially one couple

1:19

that began the

1:22

experiment has ended

1:24

the experiment as a couple. Now

1:26

there are 1, 2, 3, 4,

1:28

5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10,

1:30

11, 12, 13. No, this season.

1:32

So 1 out of 13. And

1:34

you could argue... Clint and Jackie,

1:36

who didn't start the experiment

1:39

together, have ended as a couple.

1:41

But one out of 13. Now,

1:44

if I was an expert, do

1:46

you know what

1:48

I mean? And the

1:50

results of my

1:52

work, like, this is

1:54

their final show. If

1:56

I wrote 13 jokes and

1:58

one was funny, I would

2:01

be failing at my job. Like

2:03

quite I think that's the

2:05

thing. I think that's the thing.

2:08

Keep putting these people together

2:10

for sure. Just stop the, we've

2:12

used science to put together

2:14

some most compatible. No. No,

2:16

you haven't. You've

2:18

failed miserably. Because

2:21

at the start, yeah, I haven't watched

2:23

it for a few years. Do they

2:25

still do the thing? It was like,

2:27

oh, I think her extrovert would match

2:29

really well with his introvert. Oh, yeah.

2:31

Sort of whatever. They made some clangers

2:33

this year. And they're doing it. Obviously,

2:35

they're doing it for entertainment. But when

2:37

you're doing it for entertainment, just stop

2:39

calling yourselves experts. Stop the facade. Okay.

2:43

Anyways, we've got someone else in the pop

2:45

realm who has made waves this week.

2:48

We're going to be chatting about them up

2:50

next. And also, we've got something that

2:52

may help you get out of a sticky

2:54

situation that a lot of people around

2:56

our age find themselves in. This is Matt

2:58

and Alex's All Day Breakfast. Hope you're

3:00

having a good one. Let's get this show

3:02

on the road. Let's go. Here we

3:04

go, here we go, here we go. Look,

3:09

Matt, I know you said that we'd

3:11

be talking about... a celebrity making waves,

3:13

but I cannot. I am sorry. What?

3:17

I can't actually talk about this.

3:19

Is this a joke? Well...

3:22

Why not? I just

3:24

feel bad because I was having a coffee with

3:26

Annalise and we were just sitting there. You know

3:28

when you're sort of with your partner and you're

3:30

just having a bit of a silence and I'm

3:32

thinking about bloody election stuff and all that sort

3:34

of thing. And I think to try to make

3:37

you feel better, try to change the topic, but

3:39

also because she's a person who likes talking about,

3:41

you know, funny, quirky, sort of offbeat things. Annalise

3:43

just leans over to me in the silence and

3:45

just says, Katy Perry's going

3:47

to space. And

3:51

I sort of just sort of looked up

3:53

and was like, oh, and

3:55

it was just quite funny that

3:57

she broke a silence with that.

4:01

Because I think because I was talking election

4:03

stuff, I didn't give her the response

4:05

that she was after. Oh, no. Die so.

4:08

Let's have a chat about Katy Perry and that

4:10

sort of thing. I'm like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm

4:12

in election mode. Oh, I need to talk about

4:14

that sort of thing. And then, unfortunately, later

4:17

on, we have the meeting and

4:19

she overhears me. talking to you about

4:21

Katy Perry going to space because

4:23

you're like, did you hear Katy Perry

4:25

going to space? I'm like, yeah,

4:27

I've heard Katy Perry's going to space.

4:29

And we start talking about I

4:32

Kissed a Girl and Adelaide shoots me

4:34

a look like, oh, so you'll

4:36

talk about Katy Perry in space with

4:38

Matt O 'Kine, but you won't talk

4:40

about it with me. What is

4:42

this? No, die so. I don't, I

4:44

can't. My poor, poor partner has

4:46

to put up with me. Oh, no.

4:48

Well, maybe. Do you want

4:50

to bring Annalise in? Do want to talk with

4:52

her about Katy Perry in space? Oh, wait,

4:54

Because she's looking for someone to talk to about

4:56

it. Okay, yeah, sure. Let's go. Is she

4:58

here? Annalise, are you

5:01

around? Oh, the

5:03

bedroom door's opening. Do you

5:05

want to come and talk to Matt

5:07

O 'Kind about Katy Perry being in

5:09

space? Because I absolutely dogged you

5:11

before. You want someone who will

5:13

actually talk to you? Hang on. Hello.

5:17

Hey, Annalise, listen. Can

5:19

you believe the

5:21

gall of Alex Dyson?

5:23

It's getting bad. It's getting so bad.

5:25

Okay, not only does he not want

5:28

to listen to you when he's at

5:30

the cafe table, but now he's getting

5:32

you to do his job. Yeah, he

5:34

says, do you want to talk to

5:36

Matt O 'Kine about Katie Perigona's space? I'd

5:38

like to talk to my boyfriend about

5:40

it. Oh, my

5:43

God. But he's outsourcing. And after I brought

5:45

it up, he also said to me, oh,

5:47

if you want, you could book a ticket

5:49

to go visit your mum in Queensland. I'm

5:51

like, you can't outsource me because you

5:53

can't do small talk. Oh,

5:56

no. Okay. Hey, I do small talk

5:58

for a living. Get out of here,

6:00

Alex. You're out. You're

6:02

out. Go on. Get out of here.

6:04

We're done with you for this segment. So,

6:06

Annalise, let's talk about the election.

6:08

Is it taking its toll? I mean,

6:10

are you just talking to a

6:12

zombie now at the moment? Yes, absolutely.

6:14

There is, well, he has a

6:16

lot of capacity for talking election stuff

6:18

with other people. And we've actually

6:20

hit a bit of a snag that

6:22

I don't think he would mind

6:25

me saying is that he's talking all

6:27

day and he switched on. But

6:29

when I'm with him, I'm being like

6:31

Instagram girlfriend. I'm not talking. So

6:33

then when I get in the car

6:35

and we're driving home together, I'm

6:37

like, great. My turn. And he's like,

6:39

nah, I need to be silent. So

6:41

unfortunately I have a list of things that I

6:43

need to gossip about with other people. And

6:46

Katy Perry going to space is

6:48

probably at the top of it. Now,

6:50

what was your thoughts on Katy

6:52

Perry kissing the ground? Because that was

6:54

the, well, actually, no, before we

6:56

get to the kissing the ground thing,

6:58

let's talk about the concert playlist

7:00

reveal. Did you see that she revealed

7:02

the concert? Playlist? space.

7:05

See, I didn't even know this.

7:07

On a little butterfly. And people were

7:09

saying that it's a little bit,

7:11

it was all a little bit cringe.

7:13

For those of people who don't

7:15

know, Katy Perry, along with a bunch

7:17

of other fairly high profile peeps,

7:19

went to space, including Gale from, you

7:21

know, Oprah's Gale. Oprah's Bestie. Did

7:23

you know Gale was there as well?

7:25

I didn't until I saw the

7:27

photos and then I was excited for

7:29

Gale. I know. I mean, Gale

7:32

King is probably more of. I

7:34

mean, she's a definite high flyer. Do

7:36

you know why they went to space, Annalise?

7:38

I have no idea. I think maybe

7:40

they were offered it and they said yes,

7:42

but there were a few things I

7:44

needed to talk through. One of

7:46

them was that they were only in space

7:49

for like 11 minutes. Yes. That was the

7:51

whole thing. Yes. And secondly, not one of

7:53

them decided to put their hair up, and

7:55

that was something I noticed when I looked

7:57

at all of them in anti -gravity. It

8:00

seemed like a bother. And someone was

8:02

like, look at the moon. And they were

8:04

trying to, like, get their hair out

8:06

of their face. Why did they do that?

8:08

My partner, Belinda, will not let our

8:10

daughter, Sophia, go into the swimming pool without

8:12

her hair up for this exact same

8:14

reason. Like, this seems like basics of long

8:17

hair 101. Yeah, maybe they

8:19

needed this trip to pave the way

8:21

so the next trip now knows if

8:23

you send five long -haired people into

8:25

space, put it up. Well, I

8:27

would hate if one of

8:29

the hairs got disconnected somehow, fell

8:31

out, wrapped around some sort

8:33

of turbine. Suddenly we've got a

8:36

gravity Sandra Bullock situation. Hey,

8:39

would you? This is a very serious question. I was

8:41

going to ask it to Alex Dyson, but I'm going

8:43

to ask it to you instead. you

8:46

get the offer to go to space

8:48

as part of some, you know, program, the

8:50

same way as these people have done,

8:52

uh, you and Alex in space or even

8:54

just you by yourself. What are you

8:56

thinking? You're saying yes or no. I think

8:58

you have to say yes. I don't

9:00

know what the price was, though. If I

9:02

have to pay over, I reckon, $2 ,500,

9:04

I'm not interested. But if it's given to

9:06

me for free as an opportunity, I'm

9:08

down. Well, Katy Perry also

9:10

apparently sung Louis Armstrong's What

9:13

a Wonderful World while in space.

9:15

Do you reckon that would

9:17

be awesome or slightly cringe? Slightly

9:19

cringe. They squeezed a lot

9:21

into 11 Minutes. You'd

9:24

want a shorter song. She

9:27

starts singing This Is The Song That

9:29

Never Ends from Lamb Chop's Play Along. You're

9:32

like, no, Katie, please. We've got other

9:34

things we need to do. whips out the

9:36

acoustic guitar and you're like, oh, gosh.

9:38

I said maybe. No,

9:40

Katie. Not here.

9:42

No, but fair enough. She also

9:44

then came down and people

9:46

said that she kissed, like there's

9:48

photos of her kissing the

9:50

earth. And

9:52

people are saying, hey, Katie, that's a bit

9:54

much. Well, all I can think of is

9:57

probably, this is probably a good Alex Dyson

9:59

joke, is I kissed the ground and I

10:01

liked it. I know. Yes, exactly. That

10:05

was where I was going.

10:07

I kissed the dirt and

10:09

I liked it. The taste

10:11

of. Dry grass and sticks.

10:13

Perfect. All right. That's it for

10:15

us. Good. Thank you. That's

10:17

all I needed. Can I

10:19

ask, Annalise, would you be

10:21

annoyed at how much press

10:23

Katy Perry has gotten when there

10:25

was like eight other women

10:28

up there? Oh, absolutely. Including

10:30

Gail. Right? Because it

10:32

feels like Katy made it.

10:34

all about her. Like she's singing

10:36

songs. She's releasing her playlist.

10:38

She's kissing the dirt when she

10:40

gets like, it feels like

10:42

everyone would have been like, Katie,

10:44

chill, please. Yeah, I

10:46

think it's a little unfair, but at the same

10:48

time, I think, unless maybe she paid for everybody

10:50

and was like, I'm going to pay for you

10:52

and you just have to take the back seat

10:55

and this is going to be about me, but

10:57

you can come. That is a very good point.

10:59

If someone paid for like even just a free

11:01

meal at... know, the pizza restaurant, I'd be like,

11:03

yeah, sure. Kiss the dirt, do whatever you need

11:05

to do. they can sing for me while I

11:07

eat, but that's it. All

11:09

right. Well, thanks. Thanks, Katie. And thank

11:11

you, Annalise. Thanks, guys. That's all

11:13

I needed. Just

11:16

a little bit that. Is your moocher

11:18

of a boyfriend even there anymore?

11:20

Is he what? Has he gone to

11:22

just? He's just wandered back in

11:24

the room a little sheepishly. So we'll

11:26

sub him in. All right, thank

11:28

you. Thank you. Thank you very much,

11:30

Annalise. And no thanks to you,

11:33

Alex Dyson. Hello, how'd you

11:35

go? Oh. Am I

11:37

out of a job? We're back

11:39

down to earth and I'm kissing

11:41

the ground. Get

11:43

out of here. You're never

11:45

coming on my rocket ever again. Go.

11:54

Well, up next, we've got a

11:56

little bit of a story

11:59

that was brought to us by

12:01

producer James, who... You had

12:03

some strong feelings about this, producer

12:05

James, didn't you? Yeah,

12:07

look, it's another case

12:09

of AI bots going wild.

12:12

In a bad way,

12:14

though. I think

12:16

so. I think so. I mean,

12:18

you can certainly frame the positive

12:20

angle of it, but when you

12:22

really think about it, it's a

12:25

Black Mirror episode, essentially. Now, can

12:27

I just ask, this story that

12:29

you sent through, this is from

12:31

404 Media, and when I clicked

12:33

on the link, I had to

12:35

click like a, you're not a

12:37

robot kind of thing. What on

12:39

earth is 404 Media? 404

12:42

Media is a media startup. They

12:44

were a bunch of journalists that

12:46

I think they came out of

12:48

Vice. They were former Vice journalists.

12:50

That website got shut down, and

12:52

so they started their own kind

12:54

of operation, 404 being the kind

12:56

of error message you get when

12:58

a page gets shut down, basically.

13:01

So, yeah, they're a bunch of great

13:03

journos doing some really cool investigative

13:05

reporting, and they report on a lot

13:07

of this kind of stuff with

13:09

AI. All that jazz. And

13:11

the headline of this article, I tested

13:13

the AI chatbot that calls your elderly

13:16

parents if you can't be bothered. And

13:18

it talks about a startup from InTouch

13:20

that promises to call your parents if you

13:23

don't have time or simply don't want

13:25

to. And it uses an AI -generated voice

13:27

so your parent receives a phone call and

13:29

they talk to the AI that I

13:31

think sounds like you about how their day's

13:33

going, their hobbies, and how they're feeling. Well,

13:36

actually, they do say that they

13:38

don't clone your voice. It's a

13:40

generic. AI voice. They don't want

13:42

to, like, replace you, but it

13:44

is still putting a bot in

13:46

place of, you know, you actually

13:49

making a personal call to your

13:51

parents. That is the most ridiculous

13:53

thing. What's the

13:55

point if they don't think

13:57

it's you? Do you

13:59

know how offensive it would

14:01

be if you just

14:03

blatantly sent a call being

14:06

like, hello? Mr.

14:08

Okine, how are you today?

14:10

I would say that. Hello,

14:12

Dad. How are you today?

14:16

Is that you, son? Talk to your parents,

14:18

people. Just give them a call. All

14:20

they want to do is hear your voice

14:23

and see how you're going. I don't

14:25

know how this is supposed to, you know,

14:27

make our lives easier at all. This

14:29

is, yeah, this isn't dark stuff. Well, I

14:31

mean, I'll tell you what's bad. It's

14:33

$29 a month. I mean, well, for a

14:35

dollar a day, this is... I

14:37

mean, just tell them that you

14:39

can't do it that often. How

14:41

often are the phone calls for

14:44

you, Matt? The parental phone calls?

14:46

Oh, me and dad talking. Versus

14:48

how often would the ideal one

14:50

for your dad be? Oh,

14:54

no. I mean, we talk about as

14:56

much as both of us are happy to.

14:58

Okay. There's no, you know. Oh,

15:01

every now and then I will miss

15:03

a call from him and he, and he

15:05

does get quite, like I do get

15:07

quite the stink from him when, um, when

15:09

I, do you know what I mean?

15:11

Like, cause he'll call me and then I

15:13

won't call him back for like a

15:16

day or two. And then, then he's ready

15:18

to let rip on me. Usually with

15:20

something that's, oh, usually it's something along the

15:22

lines of, um. What

15:24

you didn't, you know, you're too busy to

15:26

call me back. You didn't get my message

15:28

and stuff like that. And I'm usually like,

15:30

oh man, I was traveling. I had to

15:32

do this. I had to do that. I

15:34

mean, not to get all, um, cats in

15:37

the cradle, but you know, like I was,

15:39

it's been a long time. I'll be home

15:41

soon, dad. I'll be home soon. You

15:44

know, I want to be like

15:46

you. No,

15:51

we talk all the time. I see

15:53

him like every week as well with

15:55

Sophia. We go around for the family

15:57

visit. Like, and actually that moving back

15:59

to Brisbane, that has been one of

16:01

the most like nicest things about being

16:03

close to my dad again is the

16:05

incidental visit, the visit where nothing happens.

16:08

That is what I was like. Every

16:10

time I'm there, I'm like, that's so

16:12

nice that nothing is happening and we're

16:14

not really talking about much. It's like,

16:16

these are the things I'll miss. Well,

16:18

I did the incidental just bump into

16:20

my dad on the main street of

16:22

Warrnambool yesterday. So that was good. Just

16:25

being able to see the old man

16:27

as a little surprise. And

16:29

he walked with me to the car and I gave

16:31

him a lift to the library. Oh, there

16:33

you go. You need to check his emails

16:35

something. I'd like to see an AI chatbot do

16:37

that. But

16:40

we may need to do

16:42

one that knows about Katy Perry's

16:44

lunar ambitions. Could

16:47

you imagine you and Annalise at

16:49

the cafe, she just goes, have you

16:51

seen Katy Perry? And then she

16:53

looks up and it's like, yes, I

16:56

have seen Katy Perry. Why? What

16:58

has happened and how are you feeling

17:00

about it? I

17:03

reckon we need the opposite.

17:05

We need an AI bot

17:07

that is the elderly parent

17:09

that calls the child up.

17:11

constantly asking whether it was

17:13

considering going back to university

17:15

to study something important. Oh,

17:20

can you imagine? So,

17:22

Matt, it's often good to

17:24

have a backup plan. When

17:28

are you considering giving

17:30

me grandchildren? There

17:32

are some things in the

17:35

spare room that I can give

17:37

you. Would

17:40

you like your high school

17:42

woodwork project back? Mind

17:59

blown. Blown

18:01

away. That is

18:03

right, Matt

18:05

O 'Kine. Chad Okine

18:07

about to give us a mind -blowing

18:09

fact because truth is often stranger

18:11

than fiction. What did you find

18:13

out this week, Matt? Well,

18:15

this is thanks to a little

18:17

old kind of meme -y account. I

18:19

don't know whether it was like at

18:22

puberty or something silly like that.

18:24

It's probably one of those ones, you

18:26

know, that just chucks out stuff

18:28

all the time. So it's not a

18:30

fact from like the Encyclopedia Britannica

18:32

or something like that. Nah, I wasn't

18:34

scrolling the annals of the UQ

18:36

libraries trying to find something really incredible.

18:39

It was just the fact that,

18:41

and it's sort of, it's sort of

18:43

argued. There's a lot

18:45

of people that are

18:47

suggesting that Joey Tribbiani from

18:49

the show Friends. The

18:51

character? Yes, is responsible for

18:53

the term Friend Zone. Right.

18:57

So it hadn't been coined

18:59

before. Well, this is the thing.

19:01

What's the guy's name again that

19:03

played him? Matt LeBlanc. Matt LeBlanc.

19:05

Yes. So it is widely, and

19:08

I've tried to find this as

19:10

being debunked. I genuinely was like,

19:12

that can't be true. There's probably

19:14

heaps, heaps of references that people

19:16

have pulled up being like, no,

19:18

it was in this magazine. It

19:20

was in this book and blah,

19:22

blah, blah. Everywhere

19:24

you look. All things

19:26

seem to point that

19:28

possibly it had been used

19:30

before, but friends, the

19:32

show and Joey Tribbiani in

19:35

episode titled the one

19:37

with the blackout from the

19:39

first season, seventh ep

19:41

Ross, who is lovesick for

19:43

Rachel is described by

19:46

Joey as being the mayor

19:48

of the friend zone.

19:50

And then of course they

19:52

go to talk about. The

19:55

Friend Zone. And I

19:57

cannot find anything that

19:59

refutes this. Really?

20:01

Well, that's pretty interesting. I

20:03

guess Friends v. Seinfeld at that

20:05

time, they were coming up

20:07

with their own sort of terms,

20:10

like there was yada, yada,

20:12

yada out of Seinfeld. Yeah. I

20:14

mean, can you believe that

20:16

one day Seinfeld will be the

20:18

Shakespeare of like our... Like,

20:20

in 300 years, they'll be like,

20:22

you know that yada, yada,

20:24

yada was invented by Gerald Seinfeld.

20:26

Yeah, because that's a good

20:28

thing. Like, if a nice, attractive

20:30

person wants to be friends

20:32

with you, that's actually pretty good.

20:34

Just, I think we've got

20:36

to change that mindset. That's a

20:38

good thing. Well, they're sort

20:40

of suggesting that... That,

20:43

you know, this

20:45

is a concept that

20:47

is rooted in

20:49

misogyny, male narcissism, that

20:51

it's a bit

20:53

of a gender trope.

20:55

The Birmingham, or

20:57

Binghamton University did a

20:59

study on it. Binghamton

21:04

Uni? Where's

21:07

Binghamton? Anyway,

21:10

look, I don't

21:12

know where Binghamton. Mid

21:14

-sized university in the

21:16

northeastern United States.

21:18

It sounds like you

21:21

brought home some

21:23

Abadass sneakers from your

21:25

overseas holiday. Apologies

21:28

to everyone in Binghamton Uni.

21:30

I don't want to disparage. I

21:32

just haven't heard of you

21:34

yet. Is this actually real though?

21:36

Because isn't the Chandler's character

21:38

Chandler Bing? Yeah. Yeah.

21:42

So anyways. That's

21:45

absolutely right. Look,

21:48

we love getting your own mind blown

21:50

on this segment as well. Get them through

21:52

matt .and .alex. Heather has done such and so

21:54

it's nice to hear Heather's voice here on

21:56

our podcast. Did you

21:58

know that Australia is wider than

22:00

the moon? Australia is about

22:02

4 ,000 kilometres wide and the

22:04

moon is about 3 ,473 kilometres

22:06

wide. Do you

22:09

reckon that's a round though? What's

22:11

the circumference of the moon? What?

22:16

Rather than like one point to

22:18

the other point? Yeah, like

22:20

is the diameter of the moon.

22:22

So Australia would wrap twice

22:24

around a moon or? There's one

22:27

drive around the room, like

22:29

driving Byron to Perth or something.

22:31

The circumference of the moon

22:33

is 10 ,000 kilometers. So it

22:35

must be talking about the width

22:37

of the moon, the diameter

22:39

of the moon versus the diameter

22:42

of Australia. Here's crazy though. Imagine

22:45

if from the moon,

22:47

Australia looked like it

22:49

had a man on

22:51

it. Do

22:57

you know I mean? Like a little

22:59

smiley face of Australia. On Australia. You're

23:01

on the moon. Could

23:04

you believe they put

23:06

a man on Australia? When

23:09

we're doing REM parodies, it's time

23:11

to pack her up. Thank you very

23:13

much for joining us here at

23:15

All Day Breakfast. We are

23:17

not going to be back

23:19

tomorrow because something happened 2 ,000

23:21

years ago and thus it's a

23:23

four -day weekend. So, I mean,

23:25

it's probably the... The

23:27

least detailed way to explain that. But

23:29

we'll be back with you next Tuesday

23:31

for a big episode of All Day

23:33

Breakfast. And it's going to be so

23:36

big, in fact, because it's a short

23:38

week next week, that it's going to

23:40

be ask me anything. Ask Matt and

23:42

Alex anything. Get your final questions in.

23:44

And, yeah, do you know what? There's

23:46

already been a big question, Alex Dyson,

23:48

that's going to be popping up next

23:50

week that revolves... The future

23:52

of the podcast. So we will

23:54

get to that. Please join us

23:56

then on at matt .n .alex in

23:58

the meantime or listening on Tuesday

24:00

morning when we're back same time

24:02

same place. Bye -bye.