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A listener, production. Whether

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it's a smoothie at 7am, French

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toast at 4mam or a bacon

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and egg roll, admit that. This

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is the podcast for you. It's

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delicious! It's Matt and Alex all

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day breakfast. Have you ever... done

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something unintentionally racist Alex Tyson that

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you just didn't never ever in

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my entire life I just it's

0:24

not that I meant to do

0:26

this thing or to think this

0:28

thing I think is what happened

0:30

but it turns out I probably

0:32

need some sort of self inflexia

0:34

reflection I need to you know

0:37

have to send you to one

0:39

of those corporate training sessions talking

0:41

about Inclusivity in the workplace exactly

0:43

because I just did something just

0:45

before where I was like Oh my

0:47

god, what is that saying about me? And

0:49

uh, but thankfully I'm not alone to do

0:52

this self-work. We may be able to, um,

0:54

talk to the person that made me discover

0:56

this situation. We've got a guest about, we're about

0:58

to talk to, uh, talk to the person that

1:00

made me discover this situation. We've got a

1:02

guest about, we're about to talk to. Very

1:04

spontaneous guest, this was not planned, but we're

1:06

gonna dive right in, because this just happened

1:08

all day of their breakfast. Hope you know,

1:10

hope you know, hope, hope, hope, hope. Well

1:13

Matt O'Kine you've come in sweating

1:15

what's been happening. Okay so you

1:17

know I'm in town we're in

1:19

Melbourne today we're both in the

1:21

same room which is you know

1:23

a very occasion yeah exactly and

1:25

I'm in town just I leave

1:27

this afternoon okay so I fly

1:30

and fly out yeah I've got

1:32

my I've got my luggage with

1:34

me and I'm walking across the

1:36

road and I'm very close

1:38

to the studio this is just like a

1:40

block away. and this car just happened this

1:42

literally just happened that's why I walked in

1:44

I was like hit that record let's go

1:46

this car drives around the corner just as

1:49

I'm crossing the road right and so I

1:51

he catches me in the middle of the

1:53

road right okay so I'm a didn't look

1:55

both ways did you know I'm thinking about

1:57

transit so I'm not used to all this

1:59

stuff so I'm like Oh, oh, and then

2:01

so I'm literally stuck in the middle of

2:03

the road. This car drives around the corner.

2:06

I step back, I'm like waving like go,

2:08

go, go, go, like come on, come on,

2:10

go. But then the car pulls up,

2:12

starts pulling up next to me. And

2:14

I'm thinking, no, just go man. And

2:16

then he, and then I see the

2:18

window go down and here's the thing.

2:20

This is where I start. Becoming

2:23

racist. Okay. I'm really

2:25

sorry. I couldn't see

2:28

very well through the

2:30

windows. Tinted windows. Tinted

2:32

skin as well. I

2:34

will say. Okay. Yeah. Because

2:37

the figure, which I have,

2:39

all right, I'm allowed to say

2:41

it. I'm the figure that

2:43

behind the wheel happens to

2:46

be brown and and they

2:48

start winding their window down

2:50

as they're pulling up next to

2:52

me and so in my head

2:54

I think oh no I think that

2:56

this guy thinks that I'm trying

2:58

to get to the airport right now.

3:00

Because he got your luggage with you.

3:03

Yeah, I got my luggage with me.

3:05

I'm like, oh, no, he's gonna think

3:07

that like, he's gonna offer me like

3:09

an Uber like, do you? So I

3:11

think it's an Uber driver who's spotted

3:13

a fair, pay less pay cash. And

3:15

that is what I did think right

3:17

up until he pulled up next to

3:20

me, window down, and it's Nazim

3:22

Hussein. Hello. I love you to

3:24

see. I mean, I just heard

3:26

your retelling of the story. I

3:28

mean, to be honest, not much

3:30

incorrect there. I'll just tell what

3:32

you do on this shit. I'm

3:34

going to play the bills. You

3:36

know what you get a glimpse?

3:38

into what someone's person, you know,

3:40

people go, oh, I always treat

3:42

weight staff well, I will treat

3:44

blue collar work, and then you

3:46

both leave them. And this is the

3:48

first time I saw a sight of Matt,

3:50

I've never seen before. You didn't, you didn't

3:52

say with it that you, you are mouthing

3:54

expletives, like you were just, I've been a

3:57

lot of you were yelling and you're bang

3:59

on the word. the windscreen go go

4:01

go anyway this sounds like a

4:03

sketch from your comedy show fear

4:05

of a brown planet which madocine

4:08

was in that you would not

4:10

legally brown legally brown there was

4:12

no comedy people had to pull

4:15

over and catch my breath oh

4:17

it was shell shock you're gonna

4:19

need counseling after this the the

4:21

the hate that's affected you I'm

4:24

sorry man I'm so But anyways

4:26

I'm sure you didn't think I

4:28

was very good like I'm standing in the

4:30

middle of road, right? I put up all

4:32

over because I thought you I don't

4:35

know what was going I thought maybe

4:37

you might have needed some money or

4:39

something or just you're yelling and you

4:41

look like to be honest you can

4:43

make it up for me by letting

4:45

me take it to the airport. Yeah

4:48

well I mean I will need I

4:50

will need a lift there later this

4:52

elbow if you want to if you're

4:54

sticking around. Okay, all right, now listen,

4:56

listen, you've been, you've just done the

4:58

ABC show, the parenting show, which is...

5:00

Oh, you're gonna go for it. No,

5:02

the rule. The rule. I think

5:05

it's like after a house as

5:07

well, and it's not through me,

5:09

you can enroll yourself in a

5:11

proper one of these certifications. Think

5:13

any more, I'm sure you'd give

5:15

you a list. Look, I just

5:17

wanted to, I did want to

5:20

pay it back in some way,

5:22

letting people know what you're up

5:24

to. You've done the role of

5:26

a lifetime on ABC, alongside Kate

5:28

Ritchie, doing some parenting, parenting things.

5:30

Hey, can I ask you, genuinely,

5:33

after doing a show that's all

5:35

about parenting, what is the biggest thing

5:37

that you took away that is like,

5:39

like freaking you out about the role

5:41

of being a parent? Because you don't

5:43

have teenagers yet, right,

5:45

but it's coming. It's

5:48

hard to teach your

5:50

kids not to be

5:53

racist to people that

5:55

even look like you.

5:58

You know? he would

6:00

have been absolutely correct. You know,

6:02

like, actually, probably the hardest thing

6:05

of that show, part of the

6:07

show, was acting across from Kate

6:09

Ritchie, like a talented actress. I

6:11

genuinely thought, looking at her, and

6:14

she looked at me, I thought

6:16

she like caught feelings for me

6:18

every take, because we were playing

6:21

married couples, and then it was really

6:23

unprofessional, but it just turned off, but

6:25

it was just really convincing. Well wait,

6:27

if you watch the show, we're like

6:29

married, and we have these two kids,

6:31

who they cast as like white children

6:33

with snow white looking hair and stuff,

6:35

and I was like, what's the back

6:37

story here? Like, am I like to

6:39

adopt a dad or something? They're like,

6:41

no, no, these are your... What's the

6:44

whole going on? What's the back story

6:46

here? It's a little bit more way.

6:48

Hey, look, you've also got a stand-up

6:50

show happening at the Melbourne Comedy Festival

6:52

as well, which people can check out. You've

6:54

added extra shows as well, which is pretty...

6:56

I've got a new open up, you're calling

6:58

it. Yeah, well, I'll be there, I'll make

7:00

it up to you, five minutes before every

7:02

show, I promise, for the rest of the

7:04

tour. But no, please, for everyone who's keen

7:06

to go see something in the Comedy Festival,

7:08

check out, Nazimusain, saying, you paid for this,

7:11

it, it is, it is, it is, it

7:13

is on, it is on, it is on...

7:15

it is on... it is on... it is

7:17

on... it is on... single night for the

7:19

rest of the of the fest. That's it.

7:21

And Nazim, thank you very much man,

7:23

we're going to catch you later. Catch

7:25

you later, see you guys. Very funny

7:27

that Nazim was put you on tariff

7:29

too. Imagine you got in the car

7:32

with him and he just dodged

7:34

you on the super search charge

7:36

as well. I don't know if

7:38

I couldn't stay quiet man. Very

7:40

good friend of mine, but yeah,

7:42

I don't think I could stay

7:44

silent for anyone. Very, very good.

7:46

Well, look, very interesting one there

7:48

for you in Melbourne, Matokine, but

7:50

let's look overseas now because researchers

7:52

internationally have said that

7:54

they've resurrected the dire wolf.

7:56

Now, you better tell the good listener

7:58

what a dire wolf is. because you're

8:00

a big fan of Game of Thrones,

8:03

so you can explain what a

8:05

dire wolf is. I, it sounds

8:07

like a, um, some sort of,

8:10

uh, instrument that they use

8:12

to treat kidney failure. Die

8:14

wolf? Yeah. No, it is a wolf, but

8:16

it's a different one.

8:19

Dallas-based biotech company, colossal

8:21

biosciences, reckon that they've

8:23

created three dire wolf...

8:26

Pups using ancient DNA

8:28

from about 12,000 years ago when

8:30

they were alive. Wait, no, this sounds

8:32

like the group of people from Castle

8:35

Main who just remade Jurassic Park. Could

8:37

have seen the trailer for that? Yeah,

8:39

I did. Yeah, they're just uni students

8:41

who are like, hey, why don't

8:43

we completely remake the trailer for

8:45

Jurassic Park? It looks incredible, mind you.

8:47

They've actually done frame for frame. But

8:50

this just sounds like that. We've already

8:52

tried to dole. We've already tried to

8:54

dole. But Die Wolves, and this is

8:57

what they've done with the Jurassic Park

8:59

thing, because they're trying to be working

9:01

on the Tasmanian tiger, the dodo and

9:04

the mammoth. No one knew they're on

9:06

the Die Wolf, but it's worked. They're

9:08

larger than Grey Wolves and have a

9:10

slightly wider head and thick fur and

9:12

a stronger jaw. And they said it's

9:14

a massive milestone. The first of many

9:16

coming examples demonstrating that our end-to-end e

9:19

extinction technology stack works. So they got

9:21

DNA from a 13,000- year-old tooth. and

9:23

a 72,000 year old skull

9:25

and made some healthy dire

9:27

wolf. Puppies. I don't believe

9:29

it. I want to see,

9:31

but can we... Matt, Matt,

9:34

I get a dial if

9:36

I go, nah, don't like

9:38

dogs. Sorry. Yes, you're a

9:40

deextincted ancient species, but you

9:42

know what the problem is?

9:44

Can you not be up

9:46

in my grill about? Yeah,

9:48

too needy. You're too needy,

9:50

Die Wolf. Hey, if you've

9:52

seen Game of Thrones, like

9:54

Die Wolves are the best

9:56

companions, right? Shit, because I bet

9:59

it probably doesn't. on the grass in

10:01

your backyard. I tell you what, if

10:03

they're bigger than wolves, you know. That

10:05

is a lot clean up, I can

10:07

admit, yeah. I don't think they've adapted

10:09

to the current, you know, diet of

10:11

the dogs these days. That stuff's gonna

10:13

pass straight through them, mate. Yeah, they're

10:16

not eating the ancient grains and the,

10:18

uh, they're not eating mammoth these days.

10:20

I don't think the, uh, what they

10:22

put into the, the old dog food

10:24

is ready for that dire wolf kind

10:26

of diet. But, but, uh, uh, uh,

10:28

uh, it's pretty, It's pretty amazing stuff.

10:31

They're now living in a

10:33

2000 acre undisclosed location featuring

10:35

a three meter tall zoo

10:37

grade fencing where they're monitored

10:39

by security personnel. I mean... This does

10:41

sound like the guy at the

10:43

start of Jurassic Park going, don't

10:45

worry, you've got electrified fencing. You

10:48

know, you've got, you've got a

10:50

zoo grade. It's absolutely zoo grade

10:52

to keep these ancient extinct wolves

10:54

at bay. Come on people. We

10:56

need better than zoo grade. I

10:58

have seen much better than zoo

11:00

grade. The little picks of them,

11:03

like, look at, like, look at

11:05

that, they look so cute. They

11:07

look so cute. I would let

11:09

it happen. It is pretty adorable.

11:11

And it shows... Do they have

11:13

albino ones though? Because they're the

11:15

cool ones. Is that the... Yeah,

11:17

they're white. Yeah, because all of

11:19

these diawals seem completely white.

11:22

Right? It is pretty amazing. And

11:24

it's very, very cool. This Dallas

11:26

Bay's company, you know, with this

11:28

kind of technology can bring things

11:30

back from the dead, can de-extinct,

11:32

as they say. And I'm just

11:34

wondering, you know... When I'm a DJ,

11:36

you know, I'm just trying to go

11:39

across between people. I wonder if like

11:41

me being a DJ, these biotech company

11:43

takes requests. Oh, you know, you're

11:45

leaning over the booth. Yeah, three a.m.

11:48

Yeah, because I've got a cruiser in

11:50

your hand say, hey, excuse me. Do

11:52

you do? Sorry guys, do you mind

11:54

if I make a couple of requests?

11:57

So here are my top five D

11:59

extinction request. of this biotech

12:01

company. MSN Messenger, we

12:04

need to bring that back

12:06

from the dead because when it

12:08

comes to Chattanooga, it was the

12:10

superior messaging service. Absolutely. No, why

12:12

can't another messaging surface bring in

12:14

a peer offline where people don't

12:17

realize that you can see their

12:19

message? I don't want to talk

12:21

to these people, but I wouldn't

12:23

mind seeing who's around. There is

12:25

no service that I can use

12:28

to ask someone out and then

12:30

say lull my friend just my

12:32

computer. Exactly. Anymore, you know, it's

12:34

totally not cool. We need it back.

12:36

We need the funny screen names and the

12:38

user names. We need the hot mail accounts.

12:41

Biotech, get it happening. Please. Take

12:43

him on the phrase, talk to the hand.

12:45

Now this had a moment. Mad O'Kine and

12:48

I'm not sure if it was you know

12:50

climate change or something that made it go

12:52

extinct but talk to the hand just put

12:54

a full stop at the end of a

12:56

sentence that is very I can't get out

12:58

of conversations these days yeah you know you're

13:01

having I'm having a lot of conversation I

13:03

just need to be able to say talk

13:05

to the hand and then just move away.

13:07

Do you add the because the face don't

13:09

care? The face don't want to hear it.

13:12

Look I'm not sure they have the

13:14

technology that they have the technology

13:16

to add that to the request

13:18

to the request. This one's reaching

13:20

a little bit further back, but

13:23

so I'm not sure if we've

13:25

got some ancient DNA We can

13:27

we can get to bring this

13:29

one back out of extinction cod

13:32

pieces You know why? Hey, why

13:34

can't we bring back that sort

13:36

of genital Expanding protectionist sort of

13:38

cricket box? Well, that's it. If

13:41

you're if you're holding a cricket

13:43

bat, oh, it's perfectly normal.

13:45

Yeah Exactly. If you're not,

13:47

you're some weirdo lop who's,

13:49

you know, doing some sort

13:51

of cosplay from the 1900s.

13:53

This is back when bloody

13:55

men were men, Enrollo Juliet

13:57

days, you know, just rocking

13:59

that. cod piece out in the

14:01

open showing people what they're packing.

14:03

Okay? And just keeping things safe.

14:05

Why did people wear cod pieces?

14:08

That is... They were made of

14:10

steel and added to armor to

14:12

protect a night's fertility on the

14:14

battlefield. Exactly. At the moment we're

14:16

all walking around with our fertility

14:19

unprotected at the moments. Can

14:21

we... Why are people looking into

14:23

this? You know what? It's never occurred to

14:25

me that at any moment. A jouster

14:27

could come and take my fertility

14:29

right now. Exactly right. Your fertility

14:31

is on the line currently. All

14:33

right. So you've got to protect,

14:35

we protect ourselves from scammers, we

14:37

protect ourselves from hackers. Why can't

14:40

we protect ourselves from jousters in

14:42

everyday life? That's another thing we

14:44

need to de-extinct, I reckon. All

14:46

right, we also need to bring

14:48

back. Okay, need to take out

14:50

of extinction. It being cool to play

14:52

Wonder Wall on acoustic guitar at a

14:54

party. Oh my god, I've been wanting

14:56

this for years. Because it's the only

14:58

song I know how to play. Remember

15:01

it? Like just as it came out

15:03

when people would have played it at

15:05

a party for the first time and

15:07

people would have swooned instead of rolling

15:10

their eyes and going, this guy is

15:12

the biggest square of all. I firmly

15:14

remember year 11 drama class. The class

15:16

got cancelled because the teacher forgot something

15:18

and so we just had to have

15:21

free play basically and there was

15:23

a guitar there and I

15:25

busted out some wonderful and boy

15:27

oh boy! Did I get an

15:30

audience? And boy, oh boy, do

15:32

I remember overstaying my welcome.

15:34

Like, wait, don't tell me you

15:36

sent it in scheme. You were

15:39

the asteroid that hit the

15:41

earth and made playing it at

15:43

parties. I remember the moment where

15:46

I just launched into yet

15:48

another song and everyone went, oh,

15:50

he doesn't get it. We just

15:52

wanted the one. Do all. Yeah.

15:55

So, out of extinction, please. And

15:57

finally, bring back Adam and Will.

15:59

the triple J. It's about time. It's

16:02

about time. Those extinct, you've got

16:04

to, we've got to get to

16:06

DNA from their fossils and get

16:08

them back. Never been the same.

16:10

It has never been. Chumps afterwards.

16:12

It's chumps who filled their spots

16:14

afterwards. So that's what I reckon

16:16

should come back from extinction. This

16:18

is Matt. No, it's all day

16:20

breakfast. Yeah,

16:31

we asked Alex. Alex. Can I

16:33

ask you a question? It's called?

16:36

Ask Alex. Yes, it says the

16:38

segment in which we ask,

16:40

Alex, potential future, um, Senator

16:42

for Juanan? Incorrect. Oh, God

16:44

damn it. I just, it's

16:46

only like 24 days till

16:49

the election or something.

16:51

I just forget, I'd

16:53

never, they're doing this

16:55

for a year, man.

16:57

The House of Representative

16:59

for Juananan. potential future

17:01

member for one but

17:03

also X guidance counselor

17:05

for girlfriend magazine and

17:08

he is here to

17:10

help you for whatever

17:12

you may need just like

17:14

Melanie. Hey Alex my

17:16

question is how can

17:18

you become a casual

17:20

friend with someone who wants

17:23

to be your like right or

17:25

die? Now what do you reckon Matt?

17:27

That's not a romantic right or die.

17:29

I reckon this is a bestie friend

17:32

right or die someone who's inviting you

17:34

on you know overseas holidays someone who's

17:36

wants to get the hair braiding happening

17:39

wants to go through everything with someone

17:41

someone else who's you know probably not

17:43

in that same friendship level. Well, I

17:46

mean, this is a complex matter, isn't

17:48

it? Because as you get older, you

17:50

do start realizing that making friends is

17:53

as difficult and as challenging at times

17:55

as finding the lifelong partner. You

17:57

know, getting a new bestie, it doesn't.

18:00

It doesn't come easily. And so when

18:02

someone has caught feelings for you. Caught

18:04

friend feelings. Yeah, caught friend feelings and

18:06

does want to, you know, be there

18:08

till the end for better or for

18:11

worse for sickness and in health. Yeah,

18:13

how do you say, hey, happy to

18:15

catch up once a month for a

18:17

coffee or something? Yeah, like send them

18:19

a message to in the morning, hey,

18:22

you up, let's chat. It is tricky

18:24

when and I guess you sort of

18:26

feel it when one person's filling up.

18:28

doing those texts like I wouldn't believe just

18:30

what what just happened and then say what happened and

18:33

then that and then that anyway what are you up

18:35

to and that and you just you're very busy yeah

18:37

you're quite a busy and so that's there and then

18:39

the next time they call up you go oh I

18:41

gotta say sorry I didn't get back to you or

18:43

sorry about this in one person just putting more and

18:45

more effort into the friendship and you're just not at

18:47

that level that you need to be able to be

18:49

able to be able to yeah the question I wonder

18:51

is is the person getting frustrated Does

18:54

the person care? Because sometimes

18:56

people just give different

18:58

levels, you know, and then

19:01

other times, do you know

19:03

what, look, I'll talk about

19:05

this situation in year nine,

19:07

I had a friend who, um.

19:09

You know, I think he wanted to ride with

19:12

me for quite a while. He was, you

19:14

know, always saved a seat next to him

19:16

in class. To the point where every time

19:18

I walked into class, I was like, oh

19:20

my God, I don't want to sit next

19:22

to this guy again. But you got to

19:24

mix it up. Yeah, but after about three,

19:26

four months, I remember one day I

19:28

walked into class, he hadn't saved the

19:30

seat next to him. I was like... Oh,

19:32

what's going on? Oh, and I was

19:34

like, hey! Be careful what you wish

19:37

for. Yeah, and then I was like,

19:39

well, I really liked having that. And

19:41

then I'm like, oh, so what, we're not

19:43

that close? And I, just as I

19:45

was starting to come, like, open

19:48

up to you and become close

19:50

with you. And now you're turning

19:52

away from me. So maybe, you

19:54

know, maybe you're just going at

19:57

different, you're different, you're different

19:59

paces. open conversation and Melanie say

20:01

exactly to your friends what you said

20:03

to us and that's, hey I don't

20:05

have the capacity for this, you're going

20:07

to be a bit more casual friends

20:09

and catch up because I don't know

20:11

I'm just feeling like I'm behind on

20:13

the replies and you deserve more but

20:15

I can't give more and have that

20:17

open conversation or Is there some sort

20:19

of technicality or finesseing that Melanie can

20:21

do to try and extract herself like

20:23

you did from that situation and just

20:25

get it back to the level that

20:27

Melanie's comfortable with? I would always just

20:29

say, give it all you can afford

20:31

to give. Yep. Oh, you want to

20:33

give? Yep. And if they eventually get

20:35

to the point where they're like, hey,

20:37

what's up, like I'm always inviting you

20:39

to things, you're always saying no, etc.,

20:41

then you just have to be honest

20:44

and go, yeah, I'm just, there's just

20:46

so much stuff going on at the

20:48

moment, I can't really, I can't really

20:50

keep up with everything that you'd like,

20:52

and I'm, you know, apologies, I'm giving

20:54

everything I can in the time, that's

20:56

it. letting the guilt or the whatever

20:58

of someone else's expectations come into it

21:00

and then only and then and only

21:02

then if you're challenged Donator if it's

21:04

brought up you can go oh yeah

21:06

I'm sorry but this is as much

21:08

as I can devote time as I

21:10

can devote to this kind of stuff

21:12

anymore because you've got work I've got

21:14

relationships I've got parents and families and

21:16

all that sort of stuff and so

21:18

that's probably the way to go Melanie

21:20

well good luck but uh I'll let

21:22

you know right now that you are

21:24

all Our right or dies every single

21:26

one of you yes We are here

21:28

with you until the end any time

21:30

or day you just call us up

21:32

sliding those dams. Yeah, we're ready 100%

21:34

you time That's all I see exactly

21:36

And the good thing is if you

21:38

do want to sort of slightly back

21:40

out of this relationship. We won't probably

21:42

know The ratings of our podcast might

21:44

go down a little bit. We'll go

21:46

wonder but we won't know explicitly you

21:48

unless it's you unless it's you,

21:50

Belinda, my partner.

21:52

I will probably know

21:54

if it's you.

21:56

Stop bringing up things

21:58

from the show

22:01

in conversation. You start

22:03

going, hang on

22:05

a sec. We love

22:07

you, we'll see

22:09

you tomorrow. Same time,

22:11

same place. Until

22:13

then, bye -bye. That's it.

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