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1:32

Hi, I'm Hallie LeBont and this is

1:34

MEGA, coming to you from Twin Hills Community Church

1:36

where every single week we're giving our MEGA

1:38

church a tiny family feel. We love to introduce

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you to members of our church staff and

1:42

people from our community, and I always find it

1:44

to be a treat and a treasure. And

1:47

per usual, I'm joined by my co -host.

1:49

He's the youth pastor for our high

1:51

school ministry called Climax. Please

1:53

welcome Gray Haas. Jesus is the

1:55

way and that is so

1:57

slay, Hallie. How are you? The

2:00

last bless bless bless. I am

2:02

so excited for today's episode

2:04

because, well, just like Jesus will

2:06

return with a choir of

2:08

angels, our guest today is returning

2:11

for another passion play this

2:13

Easter. It's your friend

2:15

and mine, a renowned actor, Mason

2:18

Janzukes. Wow,

2:20

it is. What a thrill to

2:22

be back. What an absolute thrill to

2:24

see both of you across the

2:26

table. I'm so excited. Oh, this is

2:28

so great, Mason. And I mean,

2:30

we don't want to give... much away

2:32

about what you're planning for Easter,

2:34

but would you be able to, and

2:36

what did the kids say no

2:38

spoilers? Okay, okay. But could you tell

2:40

us as much as you possibly

2:42

can about what you're about to do?

2:44

Well, I'll be honest with you

2:46

guys, I am bringing a full year's

2:49

worth of life experience to this

2:51

year's play. What year? It's going to

2:53

be, this has been... be honest,

2:55

a pretty harrowing year for me. I've

2:57

gone through some really hard times, some

3:00

pretty gnarly breakups,

3:02

some losses, a

3:05

true year of tragedies,

3:07

sadnesses, and frankly, intimate betrayals.

3:09

Oh, my. All of

3:11

which will be part of

3:14

the show that I've

3:16

written for this year's Easter

3:18

Play. So you've written

3:20

it. You know what? Here's

3:23

the thing. We

3:25

basically I've run out. I've now

3:27

I've interpreted this character so many

3:29

times. I've run out of story. You

3:31

know, it's like when they

3:33

made Game of Thrones and they

3:35

they didn't have enough of

3:38

the Tolkien books to make that.

3:40

to make that series, they

3:42

ran out of Tolkien. That's

3:44

right. So they had to just make it

3:46

up. And so that really inspired me. You

3:48

know, that inspired me to

3:50

be like, whoa, I can.

3:52

I can. What if like

3:54

a thought experiment? What if

3:56

I wrote the next chapter

3:58

of Jesus's life? Oh, wow.

4:01

So when does that, I guess. You know, for

4:03

Easter, I'm always wondering, you know, it kind

4:05

of ends with the crucifixion. So when

4:07

does, when does that of ends Well, here's the thing, Greg. Here's

4:10

the thing. What if that's not

4:12

where the story ended? Oh, wow. Oh,

4:14

wow. Okay. What if the story,

4:16

in fact, dot, dot,

4:18

dot kept going? Really?

4:20

Wow. Okay. I mean,

4:23

think about that for a second. Where does Jesus

4:25

go? Do people even believe it's

4:27

him? Yeah. Where does he end up?

4:29

What does he do? Does he Does he

4:31

get married? Does he ever have children?

4:33

Does he get a job? Does he learn

4:35

to play a musical instrument? Does he

4:37

do anything that, and the answer to, I

4:39

don't want to, again, I don't want

4:41

to spoil it for anything, but the answer

4:44

to all of these questions is yes.

4:46

Really? Of course he gets a job. Of

4:48

course he learns a musical instrument. All

4:50

of these things are what happens to Jesus

4:52

in my play. It's,

4:54

it's, it's a fact. I'm just,

4:56

right now, I'm just, I'm talking

4:58

about it as I'm calling it.

5:00

the next the next five years.

5:02

The next five years. Jesus

5:05

Christ, the next five years.

5:07

Thirty three to thirty eight. Thirty three

5:09

to thirty eight. Like, and by

5:11

the way, pretty big chunk of time.

5:13

That's a very meaningful, I don't

5:15

know where you guys were at at

5:17

that age, but very important time.

5:19

Right. I'm not really there yet, but

5:22

yeah. Oh, wow. Oh, wow. Well,

5:24

you're going to love your 30s. Oh,

5:26

the dirty 30s. Yeah. And that's

5:28

a little bit of what, you know,

5:30

like that's a big question. You

5:32

know, does Christ date? Right.

5:34

Oh, wow. Yeah. I mean, I'm

5:36

sure if he did, he

5:39

would be the most upstanding fella

5:41

a gal could hope to

5:43

be on the other side of

5:45

the table from her. But,

5:47

but... Are these bitches gonna do

5:49

Christ wrong? You

5:52

know? Oh, that would

5:54

be such sacrilege. Like, you

5:56

know, because that's the

5:58

thing is, like, is that

6:00

even Jesus Christ... Jesus

6:02

Christ is not immune to

6:04

the vicissitudes of of

6:06

women who who who don't

6:08

listen. Yeah,

6:12

you know, who? Yeah, just

6:14

like a great just

6:16

like Eve just like Eve.

6:18

She was deceptive. Yes,

6:20

deceptive. Yes. Not truthful. Oh,

6:23

and I guess I do want to

6:25

find out what that was based on

6:27

and just going. Bagged it. What instrument

6:29

did Jesus in your mind pick up?

6:31

Oh drums drums drums drums drums drums

6:33

drums drums drums drums drums drums drums

6:35

drums drums drums drums drums Big

6:40

set. a very big,

6:42

very big. It's inspired by Neil

6:44

Peart from Rush. Oh, an incredible

6:46

drummer who plays, you know, I

6:48

feel like the kind is far.

6:50

I don't know where you guys

6:52

are at. And I know that

6:55

the church has music. But to

6:57

me, when I really thought about

6:59

it as Christ, because now I

7:01

I have like people get into

7:03

meditation and stuff. So I have

7:05

like I don't I don't stop

7:07

down and meditate. I stopped I

7:09

try and I try and think

7:12

like Christ. You know,

7:14

I try and achieve a

7:16

set a state rather of

7:18

transcending union with the Christ

7:20

mind. Wow. You

7:22

know, so I'm trying to think

7:24

I'm trying to live my life more

7:26

as actually what would Jesus they

7:29

used to have those bracelets. What would

7:31

Jesus do? Yeah, or Jesus Christ.

7:33

I'm saying that's what I'm doing in

7:35

real life. Holy smokes.

7:37

And I thought to myself,

7:39

what would Jesus play? Right.

7:41

And the answer very clearly

7:43

came screaming to me progressive

7:45

rock. Holy smoke. Interesting.

7:47

That's so cool. I think

7:50

he'd be drawn to the

7:52

to the virtuosic musicianship. I

7:54

think he'd be drawn to

7:56

the odd time signatures, to

7:58

the long track lengths in

8:00

order to truly explore the

8:02

territory. You know,

8:04

really changing tempos, fast

8:07

changing tempos. And and

8:09

like I said, time

8:11

signatures being able to

8:13

because Christ, one of

8:15

the only people I believe who

8:17

could play seven opposite 11

8:19

times between between hands and feet.

8:22

That's that is that takes you have

8:24

to be really you have to be

8:26

holy. You know, you know, wow.

8:29

I mean, I think Jesus

8:31

would be because we know

8:34

Jesus is so cool and

8:36

relevant. I thought you were going

8:38

to say something like one of those

8:40

Ramsharms because that's what the rabbis blow in

8:42

and stuff. Right. Well, absolutely. I will

8:44

say my band has a shofar player. Is

8:46

that right? Yeah. But Jesus is the

8:48

drummer, obviously, because I'm playing the drums. Oh,

8:50

so there is a band in the

8:52

show. There will be a band. It's a

8:54

one man show. Let me be clear.

8:56

It's a one man show. But with full

8:59

band accompaniment. I always wonder about that

9:01

with one when people say I have a

9:03

one man show and then there's like

9:05

11 people in it. You know, is that

9:07

still considered a one man show? It

9:09

just has it has to do with who

9:11

says the most. I think I think

9:13

it's really about, you know, all of the

9:15

all the rest of the band members

9:17

in my show understand that they are there

9:19

to elevate me. Awesome. You know,

9:21

that they are there because they are

9:24

there to facilitate. Now, if you saw

9:26

our band. out at a venue. If

9:28

you saw us playing at the porthole

9:30

like we do every Friday night, we play,

9:32

you know, three hours of originals and

9:34

then 90 minutes of band based karaoke. And

9:37

if you've got a song you want

9:39

to sing, come on out to the porthole.

9:41

Jesus Christ and the disciples, we play

9:43

every Friday night. We go

9:45

until they close this place down, which

9:47

they usually do, you know. But

9:50

we are playing.

9:52

Very challenging progressive music. We are

9:55

we are playing we are

9:57

we feature a flute soloist We

9:59

have a we have a

10:01

string section Or orchestral components come

10:03

into play, you know, this

10:05

is a very detailed very thoughtful

10:07

very aggressive band Yeah, I

10:09

think that in this and of

10:11

course no spoilers But I

10:13

do think that it's interesting that

10:15

what how do you where

10:18

do you pick up is it?

10:20

You know, you're at 33

10:22

and then Jesus, what's the decision

10:24

that he makes, or that

10:26

God makes, I guess, that he's

10:28

like, you know what, I'll

10:30

give you another five years. What's

10:33

that inflection point? Okay, so

10:35

for me, what I imagine, you

10:37

know, it's the

10:39

story of... I can't

10:41

remember. It's in the Bible. It's

10:43

Benjamin or somebody finds the tablets

10:45

and they have they have the

10:47

rules on them. You know, I

10:49

mean, they've got the rules and

10:52

the tablets. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So

10:54

that to me, I felt like,

10:56

oh, that's interesting, you know, because

10:58

that means, you know, God's leaving

11:00

little notes around, you know, and

11:02

maybe they're on stone or something

11:04

like that. And so for me,

11:06

the way I imagine it. Is

11:09

Christ. you know he's

11:11

he was dead he died on the

11:13

cross he knows what that's like he

11:15

went through that but then boom he

11:17

wakes up what is it seven days

11:19

later he wakes up and he's like

11:21

out of there he's like I rolled

11:23

the rock aside and now I'm free

11:26

baby right yeah okay yeah and he's

11:28

walking along and he's thinking to himself

11:30

how many people betrayed him. How many

11:32

people wronged him? He's thinking of all

11:34

the names of the people who deny

11:36

him, right? Isn't there one of his

11:38

best friends denies him, right, Paul or

11:41

Mary? I'm not sure. OK, right.

11:44

So what happens is what

11:47

if what if Christ

11:49

just walking through the, you

11:51

know, the mountains of

11:53

Jerusalem finds like right there

11:55

on the street. A

11:57

copy of the Yes album tails from

11:59

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I thought about it because I was like, wow. I

14:49

mean, Jesus has never even seen a record

14:51

before. You never, a record player or a

14:53

Victrola even. I bet he's never even heard

14:55

music on a wax cylinder. That's

14:57

my guess. Yes. Yeah, because were

15:00

there wheels yet? When was the wheel

15:02

invented? Such good question. wheels?

15:04

Because Jesus have wheels. Because a vinyl record is

15:06

pretty much like a, it's a wheel, you know,

15:08

if you can figure out a circle, you can

15:10

get into town quick. That's a funny idea, because

15:12

I always kind of imagined Jesus would have been

15:14

able to skateboard, but if there were no wheels,

15:16

then I just don't really understand what he would

15:18

done. But that's the thing, like, and

15:20

Gray, that's exactly the kind

15:22

of thing that inspired me, not

15:24

just Not just could Jesus

15:26

skateboard or would Jesus play? Would

15:28

Jesus play drums? Or does

15:30

Jesus use apps to date? You

15:32

know, like what does G

15:35

what does G like what fits

15:37

and quite a lot of

15:39

our life, our modern life is

15:41

I think is exactly how

15:43

Jesus would live, you know. Awesome.

15:45

Amazing. So and I do

15:47

want to go back and of

15:49

course, no spoilers. Of course.

15:51

But I did want to ask. Is

15:53

that? Did you find a copy of

15:55

a Yes album? And is that one

15:57

of the things that you drew from

15:59

your real life? Yes, I found a

16:01

trash bag in the woods when I

16:03

was young. It

16:06

had... It had a

16:08

comprehensive collection of progressive

16:10

rock records. I'm talking most

16:12

of the early yes

16:14

albums, fragile tales of topographic

16:16

oceans, all the way through the

16:18

Adrian Baloo years, discipline,

16:21

red beat.

16:25

These are incredible albums

16:27

that can crimson

16:29

catalog. You know, I think, you

16:31

know, from gentle giant all the way through

16:33

to Rush, nevermind Klaatu.

16:36

I think that that that

16:38

these were bands and

16:40

albums that were really instrumental

16:42

to me. And as

16:44

well in that same trash

16:46

bag was a staggering

16:48

amount of pornography of print

16:50

pornography magazine. Why do

16:52

people put that in the world? I know. And

16:55

why in a bag with a bunch of I

16:57

mean, I guess now that you say those bands,

16:59

I can imagine why I was with those. You

17:01

know, it is it's a it's the best thing

17:03

I've ever found in my life. It

17:05

really, I feel like it really made

17:08

me the person I am today. Yeah.

17:10

Yeah. You know, because

17:12

it's like, here's what it is.

17:14

It is a full musical

17:16

education on the best music ever

17:18

made and a true appreciation

17:20

for mature over 50 women. Awesome.

17:24

Which is what all of the

17:26

magazines were. Okay. Okay. Wow. Oh,

17:28

wow. That's interesting. It

17:30

was over 50 mature mamas,

17:32

very legal, and a

17:34

bunch of others. Wow.

17:37

Wow. Well... It's covered

17:39

in the blood. It is covered in

17:41

the blood. You know, Mason, forgive

17:43

me if this is too personal a

17:45

question, but as a, you know,

17:47

you're adept at percussion and I always

17:49

notice they put that plexi sneeze

17:51

guard around your drum kit and that

17:53

makes me think, are you going

17:55

to be smashing watermelon or at the

17:57

audience? Why do you put that

17:59

up? Oh, wow. Okay. So that is

18:01

really just for sound. It's

18:03

really just for sound. You know,

18:05

we want to get, you know,

18:07

because a lot of times we

18:09

have depending on who we are

18:11

able to get for the gig.

18:13

We've got between 12 and 32

18:15

musicians on stage, know, and

18:17

the drums are so powerful and overwhelming.

18:20

You have to contain them in that

18:22

a little bit of soundproofing, you know,

18:24

so that so that what I'm hearing

18:26

is me and that I can also

18:28

hear everybody else in the mix, you

18:30

know, because we've got we've got a

18:32

woodwind section. We've got tubas. You know,

18:34

we've got for a section of it,

18:36

I've got a marching band that's going

18:38

to be appearing on stage. Yes, which

18:40

is very exciting. Yeah, very celebratory for

18:42

Easter. I mean, they are playing a

18:44

funeral dirge. Oh, cool. It is a

18:47

kind of celebration. We're celebrating the dead.

18:49

Yeah. Yeah. Well, is it like what they

18:51

do in New Orleans? They have a

18:53

parade for the a full second line band.

18:55

OK. Interesting. OK,

18:58

that's cool. Oh, no.

19:00

And I did notice in, you know,

19:02

of course, no spoilers for what

19:04

happens in the show. But I

19:06

noticed you're wearing a wedding ring

19:08

and are there congrats in order?

19:11

You know, it's so funny you

19:13

mentioned that because I forget

19:15

I'm wearing it. You know, I'm

19:17

wearing it because Christ is

19:19

married. Oh, at this point in

19:22

your story, I'm living his,

19:24

you know, I'm living through his

19:26

marriage. I personally have been

19:28

undergoing a Pretty devastating breakup. Pretty

19:31

shattering breakup. You mentioned intimate betrayal. And

19:33

I know Christ, you know, that happened

19:35

to Jesus when Judas betrayed him with

19:37

the kiss. And you know what? It

19:40

happens every day to the nicest guys

19:42

like you, because women just can't seem

19:44

to get it together and shouldn't be

19:46

trusted. It shouldn't be so hard. I

19:48

fell in love with a woman at

19:50

the gym. Boy,

19:52

she was absolutely beautiful.

19:56

You know, I don't like to share

19:58

a lot of personal details about

20:00

myself just because I feel like it

20:02

takes away from people understanding the

20:04

character. OK, you know, to know too

20:06

much about the performer, the actor

20:08

underneath it is to take away from

20:10

the ability of the audience to

20:12

lose themself in the character, right? Oh,

20:14

cool. But I fell in love

20:16

with a woman who had three kids

20:18

and I adopted each and every

20:20

one of them immediately, which

20:22

I thought was powerful and she

20:24

thought was too quick, too

20:27

fast. You all weren't married,

20:29

but you adopted her kids. I did.

20:31

I did. does that turn some kids because

20:33

they get get a bit complicated? now.

20:35

Very much so. It's

20:37

so funny you say that. And

20:39

I didn't know that the legality would

20:41

even come into this. But I

20:43

very quickly found out that... She perceived

20:46

what I was doing as trying

20:48

to steal her children. Oh, no. Which

20:50

was not at all the case. I loved

20:52

her kids. I wanted to demonstrate to her

20:54

that I was not afraid of the fact

20:56

that she had children. That I desperately wanted

20:59

to be a part of their lives, you

21:01

know. Yes, she should be so lucky. Here

21:03

she is, a single mom of three. Oh,

21:05

sorry, sorry, sorry. She's not a single mom.

21:07

Oh, no. OK. She's not a single mom.

21:09

And that was part of it, too, is

21:11

I hadn't realized she was still in a

21:13

relationship. But she was

21:15

giving me so much energy. Really? So much

21:17

energy and so much flirty eyes and

21:19

stuff. She would always work in on the

21:21

same machines that I was working in

21:23

on or that I was working on. It

21:25

was it was it was really confusing. And

21:28

then so, you know, and

21:30

lo and behold, I find

21:32

out that she is. fully

21:34

betraying me by staying with

21:36

her husband. Oh, isn't that

21:38

devastating? That's on

21:40

her. She was really giving you

21:42

mixed signals. Giving me crazy

21:44

mixed signals. And I, you know,

21:46

I've invited her to the

21:48

show this weekend because I feel

21:51

like a lot of the

21:53

show is about us and our

21:55

relationship as seen through the

21:57

the characters of Jesus and Mary

21:59

in this kind of opera,

22:01

rock opera, progressive rock opera that

22:03

I'm calling it that. I

22:05

think I don't know that that's

22:07

ever been done. But yeah,

22:09

that is fascinating. mean, talking

22:11

about intimate betrayal, I

22:13

just sometimes don't you just

22:15

feel like intimacy is just overrated?

22:17

I don't get it. I

22:19

don't really understand. Think

22:21

about it because it's from

22:24

exactly the Bible. Talk about intimate

22:26

betrayal. Right. It is. It's

22:28

right. It's what Jesus says. He

22:30

said what doesn't he say at

22:32

to Brutee? Yeah, know, which is

22:34

like it's the it's exactly what

22:36

we're talking about that he got

22:38

betrayed by his buddy. His buddy

22:40

stabbed him right in the back

22:43

for like for what? Like 30

22:45

pieces of of. of silver or

22:47

something like that, and it's sealed

22:49

with a kiss, just like betrayal

22:51

always is, is a sweet kiss.

22:54

And next thing you know, bing, bing, boom, I'm

22:57

on the cross. Oh,

22:59

that happens every day. And I'll tell

23:01

you what, now that we're talking

23:03

about it, forgive me if this is

23:05

too personal a question, but what

23:07

is intimacy? Does it

23:09

just mean close? I always thought it

23:12

just meant. close? If you're close to

23:14

someone? Yeah, I don't really. I never

23:16

really understood it. Yeah, I don't either,

23:18

if I'm honest. I've watched a bunch

23:20

of YouTube videos. Oh, OK. Which one?

23:22

Yeah, what? Yeah. Well, you

23:25

know, I feel I'm I'm I

23:27

don't know if you know. I don't

23:29

know if you guys listen to

23:31

podcasts or anything like that. Yeah,

23:33

there's a ton of great

23:35

podcasts about that'll really help you

23:37

understand relationships and and all

23:39

of this kind of stuff. You

23:42

know, it's it's

23:44

Joe Rogan. It's

23:47

It's it's Jordan Peterson. It's

23:49

the Tate Brothers. It's,

23:51

you know, if there's a ton

23:53

of guys, there's a ton of here's

23:55

the thing. Here's the funny thing.

23:58

There's a ton of men who have

24:00

cracked relationships. And the thing is

24:02

the thing is women don't get it

24:04

yet. You know, right? Yeah. Well,

24:06

I mean, are you guys Huberman?

24:09

Oh, I love Huberman. I listen to

24:11

everything that Huberman does. I

24:13

think he's amazing and he's

24:15

so strong. I mean, he's like

24:17

absolutely shredded jacked. And he's

24:19

using science, Hallie. And I'm not

24:21

sure you understand this part,

24:23

but he's kind of what he's

24:25

doing is he's hacking the

24:27

human system. And he'll talk for

24:29

three to seven hours about,

24:31

you know, peptides. It's just it's

24:33

awesome. Here's the thing. We're

24:35

going to live forever. You know,

24:37

these guys have figured it

24:39

out. We're going to live forever.

24:41

Right. Especially Christ. And so

24:43

that's what that's in my mind

24:45

with Jesus. If Jesus was

24:47

here now, right? These are

24:49

the guys. These would be Jesus's

24:51

guys. You know, when Mark Marin says,

24:54

who are your guys? Yeah, Jesus

24:56

Christ when I when inevitably when my

24:58

record gets takes off and I

25:00

am living as Christ and I go

25:02

on that Mark Maron show and

25:04

he says, who are your guys? Yeah,

25:07

as Jesus Christ, I'm going to

25:09

say Jordan Peterson. It's the these

25:11

are the men that Christ would

25:13

follow. Right. And that's a big

25:15

thing, you know, because everybody follows

25:17

Christ. Right. Yes. But who does

25:19

Christ follow? You know. That,

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